January 30, 2025 • 5 mins
National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL with details on the mid-air collision in DC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Chono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We do from the news conference moments ago, get the
reality that there are no survivors. This is now a
recovery operation and in that twenty eight bodies have been recovered.
Roy O'Neil as our national correspondent and joins us and
anything else I know. NTSB has a news conference slated
for later today. There's a lot of questions. You know,
(00:24):
the video footage from the what was it earth? The
earthcam footage was further away than there was another one
from a car that was pulling into the airport. It
was they just headed right for each other until they exploded.
And why that happened. I guess NTSB will begin to
cover that later today, right right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And we want to really focus in on some of
the conversations that the helicopter crew was having with the
air traffic control tower. We've already heard the clips out
there saying you see that CRJ and they acknowledge yes,
But was it the same one that they were being
alerted to? Apparently is the question, because when you see
the video from a distance, it looks like the helicopter
(01:07):
is making a bee line for the plane.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And it's just it's difficult to understand exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That's what we're all having a hard time speculating about.
But that's what's hard for the human eye because you
can see that they're lights right, and they're just one
is i think, four hundred feet at one hundred and
forty miles an hour and descending towards runway thirty three,
and the others is rising and they're just going straight
at each other, and no one makes a movement. That's
tough for the human eye to see. And whether it's
(01:36):
suspicion or looks intentional, all that aside.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It's just a lot of questions, a lot of questions
that demand answers, and.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The FBI is part of the investigation, so they will
look into this. Was this not an accident, so that's
going to be part of the investigation. Nothing to indicate
it's anything, but as we've heard so many times, helicopter
crews tend to focus on looking down because they fly
at such low levels, and this could been sort of
a blind side approach to the plane, considering its pitch
(02:04):
as it was approaching the runway. But it's also the
busy i've heard it described today as the busiest runway
in America, so in short to you and well right well,
which isn't too surprising, and that's why a regional jet
was using it.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
But it's also such a compact airspace.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So probably the next big question would be okay, so
blind spot for the Blackhawk, but not for the American
Airlines flight who had to be staring right descending right
into it. So the one question I had was were
they still an autopilot and why wasn't it taken off?
Or why didn't air traffic control say, you know, we're
calling out to the helicopter, do you have a visual
(02:42):
on it? Because they're not responding because and there was
no maneuvers, no last second maneuvers at all by either.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It didn't appear to be that way.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And again if the plane was coming down though, and
that's essentially on your and the helicopters on your bottom
right distant, that may be a difficult angle for a
pilot to get a visual on because of the pitch
of the plane as it's approaching a runway. I don't again,
I'm not an expert on these things for sure, so
that but that's something that would be looked at because
it may have been so low that collision avoidance systems
(03:11):
weren't activated as well questions about whether the transponder on
the helicopter was activated.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So again, this is this is what the NTSB does.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Very cold water temperatures predicted to be about thirty five
degrees that wouldn't have given them much rescue time with
hypothermia anywhere from what thirty minutes to an hour top
So I mean, and this has been going on since
about ten eastern last night. I mean, I think we
pretty much knew we were in recovery mode throughout the
overnight hours, but that was confirmed in this Morian's news
(03:43):
conference as well.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And that's a small regional jet. That black Hawk helicopter
is nothing to sneeze at. I mean, that's a pretty
large size aircraft in and of itself. So you really
had two vehicles or aircraft almost of equal size colliding here.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I flow in those planes. I don't want to
make anything about me at all, but I mean I
love that actual jet. I think they're great. They are
smaller and you feel like you're in a smaller plane,
but they're very fast, they're very smooth. Picture more of
a commercial jet. Than what you might think of in
terms of regional and it could have had as many
as I've heard reports of seventy, which seems more like
(04:22):
a round number thirty five on each side kind of
a thing. But I think the official report is there
could have been as many as sixty four, and it
turned out our sixty five, and it turned out there
were sixty and then four crew members, so a total
of sixty seven in both and only so far anyway,
twenty eight passenger, twenty eight of the victim's bodies recovered,
(04:43):
twenty seven from the plane, one from the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Right, because this plane did have a first class configuration,
so that would reduce the total number of seats obviously
on board.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So that's part of why we had a lower number.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, that and it's really turning into a skating story
as well, knowing that, according to the US Figure Skating Association,
were coaches and skaters on that plane returning from a
champion in the Russians, and the task came out with
the two ninety four champions that were on board as well. No,
we don't have confirmation on whether or not the son
Maxim is on board yet or not. Right we believe
he was not. Not all right, Rory O'Neil with the
(05:17):
very latest. When you come back, we'll have more of
what you dig up, as well as I want to
talk to a little bit about that study on the
most unsafe states.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
When your morning show continues.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Thank you, Rory, miss a little, miss a lot, miss
a lot, and we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show
with Michael del Churno.
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Chono.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We do from the news conference moments ago, get the
reality that there are no survivors. This is now a
recovery operation and in that twenty eight bodies have been recovered.
Roy O'Neil as our national correspondent and joins us and
anything else I know. NTSB has a news conference slated
for later today. There's a lot of questions. You know,
(00:24):
the video footage from the what was it earth? The
earthcam footage was further away than there was another one
from a car that was pulling into the airport. It
was they just headed right for each other until they exploded.
And why that happened. I guess NTSB will begin to
cover that later today, right right.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And we want to really focus in on some of
the conversations that the helicopter crew was having with the
air traffic control tower. We've already heard the clips out
there saying you see that CRJ and they acknowledge yes,
But was it the same one that they were being
alerted to? Apparently is the question, because when you see
the video from a distance, it looks like the helicopter
(01:07):
is making a bee line for the plane.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And it's just it's difficult to understand exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
That's what we're all having a hard time speculating about.
But that's what's hard for the human eye because you
can see that they're lights right, and they're just one
is i think, four hundred feet at one hundred and
forty miles an hour and descending towards runway thirty three,
and the others is rising and they're just going straight
at each other, and no one makes a movement. That's
tough for the human eye to see. And whether it's
(01:36):
suspicion or looks intentional, all that aside.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It's just a lot of questions, a lot of questions
that demand answers, and.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
The FBI is part of the investigation, so they will
look into this. Was this not an accident, so that's
going to be part of the investigation. Nothing to indicate
it's anything, but as we've heard so many times, helicopter
crews tend to focus on looking down because they fly
at such low levels, and this could been sort of
a blind side approach to the plane, considering its pitch
(02:04):
as it was approaching the runway. But it's also the
busy i've heard it described today as the busiest runway
in America, so in short to you and well right well,
which isn't too surprising, and that's why a regional jet
was using it.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
But it's also such a compact airspace.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So probably the next big question would be okay, so
blind spot for the Blackhawk, but not for the American
Airlines flight who had to be staring right descending right
into it. So the one question I had was were
they still an autopilot and why wasn't it taken off?
Or why didn't air traffic control say, you know, we're
calling out to the helicopter, do you have a visual
(02:42):
on it? Because they're not responding because and there was
no maneuvers, no last second maneuvers at all by either.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
It didn't appear to be that way.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
And again if the plane was coming down though, and
that's essentially on your and the helicopters on your bottom
right distant, that may be a difficult angle for a
pilot to get a visual on because of the pitch
of the plane as it's approaching a runway. I don't again,
I'm not an expert on these things for sure, so
that but that's something that would be looked at because
it may have been so low that collision avoidance systems
(03:11):
weren't activated as well questions about whether the transponder on
the helicopter was activated.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
So again, this is this is what the NTSB does.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Very cold water temperatures predicted to be about thirty five
degrees that wouldn't have given them much rescue time with
hypothermia anywhere from what thirty minutes to an hour top
So I mean, and this has been going on since
about ten eastern last night. I mean, I think we
pretty much knew we were in recovery mode throughout the
overnight hours, but that was confirmed in this Morian's news
(03:43):
conference as well.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And that's a small regional jet. That black Hawk helicopter
is nothing to sneeze at. I mean, that's a pretty
large size aircraft in and of itself. So you really
had two vehicles or aircraft almost of equal size colliding here.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I flow in those planes. I don't want to
make anything about me at all, but I mean I
love that actual jet. I think they're great. They are
smaller and you feel like you're in a smaller plane,
but they're very fast, they're very smooth. Picture more of
a commercial jet. Than what you might think of in
terms of regional and it could have had as many
as I've heard reports of seventy, which seems more like
(04:22):
a round number thirty five on each side kind of
a thing. But I think the official report is there
could have been as many as sixty four, and it
turned out our sixty five, and it turned out there
were sixty and then four crew members, so a total
of sixty seven in both and only so far anyway,
twenty eight passenger, twenty eight of the victim's bodies recovered,
(04:43):
twenty seven from the plane, one from the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Right, because this plane did have a first class configuration,
so that would reduce the total number of seats obviously
on board.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So that's part of why we had a lower number.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, that and it's really turning into a skating story
as well, knowing that, according to the US Figure Skating Association,
were coaches and skaters on that plane returning from a
champion in the Russians, and the task came out with
the two ninety four champions that were on board as well. No,
we don't have confirmation on whether or not the son
Maxim is on board yet or not. Right we believe
he was not. Not all right, Rory O'Neil with the
(05:17):
very latest. When you come back, we'll have more of
what you dig up, as well as I want to
talk to a little bit about that study on the
most unsafe states.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
When your morning show continues.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Thank you, Rory, miss a little, miss a lot, miss
a lot, and we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show
with Michael del Churno.
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