February 5, 2025 • 35 mins
Trump crazy or brilliant, disrupter or transformative??!!
It’s remarkable what Trump has achieved already in just over two weeks. From disrupter to great, transformational leader, senior contributor Dave Zanotti breaks down the historical trajectory of this second term.
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you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, David said something off
the air. There's I bring David up and he's not.
We can all see each other and Red and I
can see him talk to David. But there's no way
for Jeffrey to be heard by David unless I turn
up a feed, and then the feed creates slap back,
and then Jeffrey argues about it, and David just said,
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I really hate not being able to hear from Jeffrey.
And I just said, off the air, You're not missing anything.
All it is is constant negativity, not coming up next
half hour one of my favorite boy, jeff I can't
believe you betrayed me in such a way, but I'm
surrounded by enemies. I'm used to it. Chris Meyers started
in New Orleans at ww well and went on to
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have a great career with the ESPN. I think he's
been with Fox now for a decade. He's out with
a new book I want you to hear all about
and he's going to preview the super Bowl for his
next half hour, and you know his big wisecrack David
is don't fall asleep, And I'm like, I slept through
one interview. You have a history. It's a history of
one's show. I've been in radio forty one years, talk
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radio thirty six years. One day I take a nap,
but I oversleep my T Nelson interview. Ye, Well, and
then also you the beginning sleeping through the interview when
it's on the air. Hey, not so fast, you do
you who? I call it an assassination attempt. The virus
you gave me that took three weeks to get over.
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One hug and a steak, and I nearly died from
this guy. And then he has the nerve to a
show up with a brick wall buy it him. Looks
like you're getting ready to get assassinated and executed, and
he goes boa. He sounds like you're really finally over it. Yes,
took three that was a nasty virus we had.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well then I wake up this morning and
I know it's a Daytona five hundred time. But then
you're telling Darryl and Stevie Waltrip stories, which once we
get started, we can't stop. We had a whole segment,
We did a whole show on the Public Square on
We could have done three on different stories of their lives.
And we were sitting together recently and I heard a
story I'd never heard before, and that was how Stevie
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Waltrip took on NASCAR in the early years because women
were not allowed on Pitt Road. And women were not
allowed inside the different.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Their husband can go out and maybe die, but they
can't be with them before the race.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, and she really was a pioneer, and she basically
with Grace, but she defied every rule and kept marching.
You could do a Netflix series on her market through
Nascar in regards to the two of them working together.
And then the great story is that when he won
the Daytona five hundred for the first time, it was
Stevie who was running the laps of the mileage on
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the gasoline and it was a discussion between Daryl and
Stevie and the end as to whether he should gas
one more time or go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's a great story.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
They are.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
If I didn't know them, I would make this observation.
First of all, it's one of the great redemption stories. Yeah,
people forget Daryl Waltrip was like the Raiders. He was
the bad guy, and that's what I gravitated towards him,
And you know it was a huge fan. I told
the story of what would he be doing in Nashville
at a Christmas in America. So I'm up there to
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courage you, give you a hug, and the guy is
standing facing away from me, turns around and it's Darah Walter. Well,
I was just stunned, and I couldn't speak, and he's
shaking my hand and I couldn't speak, and I'm staring
at his hand. And then I turned to Stevie and
I did notice in a split second her beautiful eyes.
But you know, I finally am gonna speak. And what
comes out of my mouth is, you're married to Daryl
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waltrip like an idiot, and she cracks up.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It really happened, guys, I was there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But this bad guy has turned out to be one
of the most broken, tender, godlike believers you will ever meet.
He's one of the sweetest men. And how I ended
up at a wedding of Michael Carr's daughter, whose music
I loved when I first became a Christian. And I'm
at the wedding watching Michael Carr dance with his daughter,
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my friend dance with her son, and I feel a
presence to my left and it's Daryl walterp saying he
no longer feels comfortable giving me his car. He's going
to uber me home. How does that happen? But old
d W you wouldn't know it. Seventy eight years old. Today,
we should we get off the air. We should call him.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, he's looking great too.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And and him and Stevie are just two amazing, precious people.
All right, don't know about the wall trips. I got
to tell you what I'm more Michael carts story though.
A lot of people listening right now, No Michael cart Or.
They know his songs, Oh Love crucified a rose known
by the Scars.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So Michael and Stevie are in Israel on a trip
on a on a tour and they are at the
Whaling Wall, all right, and and uh, of course this
is the internationally globally recognized point of prayer for the
Jewish people here for the historic Whaling Wall. And they're
there and they're kind of close to the wall, and
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behind them they begin to hear some people singing. And
they look behind them and there's a group of Asian
people there. And I'm almost certain they were Chinese, but
that I'm exactly positive. Now the story goes a group
of Asian people in a circle singing El Shadai, Oh
my Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That Michael wrote by the way, that Amy made famous. Yeah, yeah,
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know what he does now on Wednesday nights, Michael Card,
he teaches studies.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He teaches a Bible study in a little country church
in Tennessee. They I don't know what promoter, is this
an ad D Wednesday or what. We're just kind of
free flowing on everything looks in two thousand and seven,
and we have so many stories to tell. We know
this one's actually in New Orleans. So I was a
huge Michael Michael Card fan, and and I like Leon
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Pattillo Cornerstone, j E. S u s. He had a
lot of a lot of great hits. And but somebody
made the idea, let's put Michael Card on tour with
Leon Pattillo. So when we show up for the concert,
there's people ready to have a party in a good time,
you know, because Leon Pattillo was more party like type music.
Michael Card, Michael Card, Keith Green, and Rich Mullins. When
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I listened to their lyrics, I know instantly these people
have been in the presence of God in ways I
never haves. All right, And so Michael Card comes out.
He's the opening act with somebody on a cello, Michael
Cart and one other like giant base type musician. And
this guy with pure annoying blows me away while everybody's
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talking while he's performing, because they're there to have a party.
And then Patilla comes on and you know all, you
know what breaks loose, And I remember leaving there so depressed,
thinking the presence of God and the annoying arrived and
everybody missed it looking for a party. I just it
blew me away at that age. Let alone flash forward.
I met his daughter's wedding and Darrel Waltrip saying, I
can't ad the keys to his car. He's gonna drive
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me home. Only in Nashville, only in America, Only in
the Kingdom of God, can these kinds of things happen?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, then why not? Why not the Riviera in the
Middle East? I mean, why not have a New York
strip steak at the Caesars Palace, Ruts Christite straight steakhouse
in the Goza while we're at it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, the world has got a lot more tolerance for
Donald Trump than I think we may have anticipated. And
this is not This is style, but it's also substance.
This is the way this guy thinks. And now he's
thinking out loud because he can, and because he's amassed
around him a team of people that are also thoughtful
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and doers and hard workers. He has the ability to
walk into a situation and say why not. Now, that
is a refreshing reality for leadership.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Leadership.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The first responsibility of a leader, according to Max Dupree
in his book Leadership is an Art, is to define reality.
So Trump walks in and says, Okay, this has been
the mess for X hundred years. Would you all like
to change this? Why not? And they may reach out
to it. Yeah, of course they do. People do everywhere.
People do it in the local county board of elections.
They do it on the Gaza Strip.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But this is the style of a guy who comes
to life as a problem solver and not as a politician,
and particularly unleash by the fact he knows he cannot
serve another term. And so why not If it's in
your mind and you think it might work, why not
say it out loud? What's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now, one thing we have is poor narrative reporting. So
the narrative today is that Donald Trump wants to seize
the Gaza Strip, own the Gaza Strip, displace all Palestinians
and move bar A Lago there, and move Marlago there. Okay,
that's not what he said. In fact, even in the
Q and A, and it even happened with John Decker,
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he made it clear. I mean, first of all, Donald
Trump's talking from this perspective. Look at some footage of
the Gaza Strip. There's nothing to come home to, So
doing nothing is not a solution.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're displaced right now. There's nothing to come home to it.
The buildings are shelves, so you know, obviously it's a
disaster area now. And what he said was, we'll come in,
we'll level it, we will rebuild it. It'll be a
beautiful place, filled with great jobs, a great secure life,
and will stop re living this nightmare over and over
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again every decade, over five decades. That's what he said.
And the Q and A, somebody said, well, who's going
to live there? And at first the first words out
of his mouth were, well the people of the world,
of course. And I thought, where you're going with this
riviera of the Middle East and people of the world.
You know, but certainly all the Palestinians will come back
to this beautiful place. But others that want to live
there too, So he didn't say he's kicking them out
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and they're going to stay out. You know, that's number one,
correct that number two. It's an idea. And as much
as you want to laugh at it or disregard it
or even suggest, well, maybe that's for the Muslims to do,
but they don't. And when they do, they keep putting
terrorists in charge, which just brings on a terrorist attack
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and then a retaliation. So how many times are we
going to do this? And it's not insanity? So make
fun of this idea all you want, but that doesn't
change the conditions on the ground, and you don't have
a better idea, and status quo is certainly not a solution.
That's relevant too.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And what's interesting is this is not our first time
around watching his style, and so this is the disruptor,
but he's not an irresponsible disruptor. Of course, anyone in Washington,
DC that gets disruptive claims not only is the person
irresponsible and vicious and hateful, but they file lawsuits. We're
watching now as the DOGE team starts to get involved
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in getting access to how the federal bureaucracy works, and
everywhere they turn there are protests and lawsuits because this is.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Like kicking over an ant hill.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean, I don't know if you've ever stood outside
and watched the morning walk through in Washington, d C.
But you can stand outside on a street corner and
watch going into the House and Senate buildings where they
actually have their offices. People line up like ants in
an ant hill. But it's like three blocks long, and
to get through the metal detectors and these are all
the drones that walk through. These are wonderful humans, don't
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get me wrong, but it's a drone like process.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They walk through and into their bee.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Hive or their antil where they basically serve the bureaucracy.
You come in and say, excuse me, have you ever
thought about why don't we change this?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Here's an idea. Let's get another metal detector, not heavy
standing in the street for twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
As soon as you touch a thing, somebody wants to
sue you because you kicked over their ends.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
This is gonna song I'm taking a cheap shot when
he's out on the air, But I did it when
he was on the air, and I just want to
reiterate it. You know, when John Decker, I understand bringing
up a list. Well, first it's Greenland, then it's the
Panama Canal, then it's Canada, then it's Mexico. Now the Gaza.
Well that's not true, because we know there was no
trade war. It was over before it started and won
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by Donald Trump. He never wanted to make Canada the
fifty first state. He wanted to wake Canadians up to
their sovereignty. And they need us more than we need them,
and they've been taking advantage of us financially enough. If
you don't want to respectfully come to the table, well
I'll bring it to the table by force. And to
the table they came, and it's solved. So it begs
the question, Well, this is different. This is the epicenter
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of the epicenter of the epicenter of the war world.
Does he really want to own the Gaza any more
than he wanted to own the Panama Canal or own
Canada as a fifty first date or is this something
even more brilliant that would lead to a solution that
we don't know either, Or maybe he literally wants.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
To own it and build a casino.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know, well, and it could be any or
all of the above, But chances are with a person
that has now only forty four months a week, we
think we're forty months away from the next election being
in full swing.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's how that's how little time he has. He's speaking
his mind and asking the why not questions. We recognize
that no human has that much capacity, but who knows.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Final moments when David s and not he we're talking
about Donald Trump, and obviously the big story is ownership
of the Gaza rebuilding the Gaza riviera of the Middle East,
and certainly it's being rejected in the Middle East. Of
course Russia, Aroan China areing it. But does anybody have
a better idea? And is he being a disruptor or
is he being really an out of the box thinker
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and solver and leader. Time will tell. But that brings
up the big question that I was just going to
ask you when you look at the totality of this,
what he did with Canada and Mexico, this whole cabinet's
about to get through. Donald Trump term one, big brag,
big hubris. You're going to get tired of winning. Donald
Trump two point zero second term you really are winning.
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And you know, we talked about what he could reasonably
get done in one hundred days. He may be done
in one hundred days. He's gone from a great disruptor
to really a transformational leader. What is the trajectory of
this presidency and Donald Trump in legacy and history, Because
he's really on the precipice of a trajectory towards one
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of the most influential presidents of our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
A lot of this will depend on how the narrative
gets reported and received by the American voters. Because they
voted for him because he wasn't Joe Biden. They voted
for him because their trust had been completely broken by
the Democrat machine and by the stands still traditional American media.
Think about this one, Michael, How different is the conversation
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we're having today about American foreign policy and domestic policy
compared to Joe Biden living in a basement hiding from
reality while minions around him are spending billions of dollars
to their friends in regards to global warming.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The whole world's changed. So if the voters get the
straight story, whether he fails or succeeds, we're moving in
a direction that is positive in problem solving. Well, he
got the difference. He got elected by the American people
seeing through the false narratives. And even today sixty seven
percent are behind back to work. It was sixty five
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to seventy percent depending on the poll on deportation of illegals.
I don't know. I think they're getting it no matter
what the narrative is, and and we're winning. Gotta break
is there when we come back tomorrow, think about it.
Let me know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
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Speaker 1 (16:20):
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fifteen years. And what a thrill it is to visit
with Chris Myers, probably going to make him feel really old.
I watched him as a teenager television in New Orleans,
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and I really think that's where the He's got a
great book. I'm going to tell you about that deserves
a while. And then we're going to preview the super Bowl.
But that's really where your relationship with the NFL really began.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, doing so.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
And actually I didn't do Larry Batchit was doing radio
and I'm trying to think of who. I think Jim
Henderson was actually doing the TV preseason and so I
was supposed to, but that fourth out on four was
the big creature to be That helped. And then that's
ESPN spotted me from New Orleans to kind of send
me on the way. So I really did do play
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by play till later with Tampa. Whether I was already
kind of involved in the in the business, but a
lot of good New Orleans, I don't if you're selling
the book New Orleans Stories, the fair Grounds Black tat
Let com there's some stuff there that that takes you.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
It takes me back when I was putting it together.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
What's astonishing to me is that I think you're only
like four. You're my brother's age, so you're only like
four years older than me, and yet you were so polished.
I mean, I didn't realize that New Orleans is like
your second stop.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, yes, I could stop second TV stop. I'd done
some radio yet, but I started at sixteen. I mean
that's really almost earlier than that in radio in Miami
on a sports talk station.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, Larry Larry did a lot of college play by
play and he was our sports guy on WTIX when
my dad and I did a morning show together, Love
Love Larry Mattson Jim Henderson was an extraordinary talent. Yes,
and you and you came through and it was just
pure class, pure polished. I've always been a fan of
your your play by play presence, and always proud of
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you being a part of my New Orleans origin. I
guess you played in some Super Bowl golf tournament with
my brother Vic, and he told me to tell you
he remembers you the only person he ever played golf
with that when you teed off the ball went backwards.
I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Are we yeah, we are we doing? Are we on
the air doing this?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well? Yeah, of course why not. We're like family. I
have always wanted to meet you. I have always been
a huge, huge fan.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Because I love that story.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You're right, I was a terrible golfer.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
But the reason I answer because I could tell a
gold Berg story where I played golf with him later
the years and I finally, you know, look, I still
I like Charles Barkley by swing, but the golf I
remember I hit went down the fairway and I have
a weird sway Barkley. So is Bill Murray and he says,
in front of everybody. Wow, he goes, I'm absolutely amazed.
I thought he was amazed at the ball go down.
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And he goes, you do everything wrong and your swig
and looks so the story and yet the ball still
comes out and somehow goes forward.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So yeah, my golf swig.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is well, we got to get you.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We got to get you to National.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'll give you a couple of lessons because I would
love to meet you. Always been a fan of your career.
You're very, very versatile, I really loved your presence doing
play by play with NFL, but you've done NASCAR thirty
year career, Emmy Award winning play by play guy I
wanted to talk to. We're going to do the Super
Bowl preview in a second, but your book. What I
love about that deserves a while is I remember I
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was watching a documentary on Muhammad Ali and Chris. While
the focus of the documentary is Muhammad Ali, what fascinated
me was America in the background, go by over the
years and going through your book, it's kind of like
that you're covering sports, but life's happening in the background,
and these extraordinary events that you happen to be there
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to do a job, but then they happen and we
remember them forever and the people you came across. It
really was I'm sure cathartic and reminiscent to sit there
and write all that, but it is just a fascinating
journey through life going on in that thirty years of coverage.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, you've described it well, and it was kind of
a it's kind of a Forrest Gump, you know, use
movie a little bit of that with sports, and then
you're connected with the movie almost famous, you know with
the young rock and roll right journalists, right camera crow
where he's a teenager in the.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Way and so and I saw an athlete.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
When I asked them about their careers, they always say
the same thing about, well, I haven't had time to
worry about that.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know, we play the next game. We got next year.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
So that's how it was for me as a broadcaster,
starting in radio, growing up in Miami, thing, getting a
big break in New Orleans to go to ESPN, then
going to Fox, and I'm always you working, so somebody say,
you were at this place and at that place, and
yet from the seventies and disco and Ali my first
interview was a teenager in sports too, Super Bowls and
the time in New Orleans locally just like Miami. And
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then the national on the national stage with ESPN's growth
and what I call their golden years whenever the only
game in talent in sports in the nineties, and then
Fox adding from football being the NFL and the Simpsons,
and then adding baseball and NASCAR and soccer in college
and etc.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Etc.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It really is life going by and my life in sports,
and I have a world going on personally in between
all this that I share a little bit of that.
And the reason I did that is because I think
I wanted you to see some of the great sporting
moments and people that I interviewed through through my eyes
and maybe the part of the story that you didn't
see or you didn't hear.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And it was fun. Yeah, it was cathartic doing.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And I wrote it though, because they approached me and said,
we got to tell people not only we've seen or
heard we can all relate to something in these stories,
but what else was going on with you behind the scenes.
And that's kind of what I tried to one of
my favorite sports guys, Chris Myers, joining us. The name
of the book is that deserves a whow get it
everywhere books are sold, including Amazon. Ali, I guess that
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was kind of a little bit anti climactic. Maybe the
most unique amazing human being you could ever meet, you
met first and young I got to spend a day
with Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser together along with Riccory
a long long time ago in tels Oklahoma fundraiser for
the Tulsa Boys Home and then the Parkinson's had developed,
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and so with Ali, you could see in his eyes.
He was just as quick getting the funny thought, but
it took a while to come out, so you'd see
it in his eyes and then you'd wait for it
and wait for it and an amazing zinger. The interesting
part of the day was Ali seemed to love Fraser
and loved to give him a hard time. Fraser seemed
to still have animosity and not like him. That was
(22:54):
an interesting dynamic. But Muhammad Ali one of the most interesting,
extraordinary people I ever spent a day with.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
What was your day like?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, Well, because it was my from I'm leaving a
high school humanities class and rushing over to the Fountain
Blue Hotel in Miami Beach. The interview Ali is my
first as a radio reporter at sixteen, and when they
called it was the last minute. The sports director couldn't
make it, so I wasn't as prepared. And I mean
I knew who Ali was, of course, but I was
still in high school. But when I walked in, it
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was scene out of a out of a movie with
the season sports writers, the hats, the cigar smoke, you
know that type of thing, and Ali was Ali. He was,
I mean, just the charisma that he exhibited forget the ring.
I mean that speaks for itself, the greatness there. But
he commanded the room and when I had a moment
to get my question in his response was he you
know it was the seventies and long hair and tape recorder.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, he said, you're not as dumb as you look, kid. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
So they laughed at that, but he answered my question.
And yeah, the human side of him was fascinating. But
but what you mentioned about him and Joe Fraser, I
was a little bit of later how I'd have a
very contentious interview with Mike Tyson over in the Holy
Field of Earbiting incident where Tyson almost tries to beat
me up, which I talk about the book at his
his house in Las Vegas, and thank god his sparring
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partner and security guard where they're to keep him from
getting That's a memorable moment because you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Don't getting all psycho onion flapping your faith.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, I said, Mike, if you don't want to answer
the question, just tell me and I'll leave. But anyway,
he have been have been the holy field, uh, you know,
the holy earbiding. They later have become you know, they're reconciled,
so to speak, so at the moment they needed the
intense dislikely that Fraser. Fraser did not because usually the winny,
the guy who wins, it's easy for him to say, hey,
all it's good. Uh, the other guy it's not. But
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Tyson finally came around.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
To that loving me, loving me some visit with Chris Myers.
Let me let me ask you about like, you know,
you go to cover a world series. I was watching
for my condo just outside Washington, d C. At the time,
and you get the feeling that a world series is
bigger than life, certain bigger than the game even and
yet mother Nature had something to remind us, was that
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one of the more extraordinary things you're there doing, probably
storylines and player profiles. You're ready for the big game,
and an earthquake happens.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, that was the right the A's Giants, and all
of a sudden, with Bob Lee, Chris Burman, some of
the great the pillars of ESPN, we scatter and realized
that we didn't know at the time how devastating it
was across the area. So we were just concerned in
our little sports world. But boy it shook and we
had to quickly go into reporting mode. I remember seeing
Tony LaRussa Mark McGuire from the as scattering. We were
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trying to get near their families and the stands. I mean,
there wasn't as much damage in that in that stadium,
but the fact that we were all to stay on
the air and report, get more information around from different
places that had severe damage. And then of course with
the World Series continue to be played or not and
when would it be and then spending time with the commissioner. Yeah,
that was That was one of those moments, and then
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there would be other moments.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Visiting with Chris Myers play by play Emmy Award winning
broadcaster for thirty years. The name of the book is
called That Deserves a Wow. It is a must read.
Get it everywhere books are sold, including Amazon. When we
come back, obviously we got a game we didn't necessarily want,
but it's going to be a good one and it's
a great matchup. We'll even get to predictions when we
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what you knew was coming, Chiefs Eagulls. But at the
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Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yes, And you can still get and by the way,
most of the people are with you on that. You
can still get history the Chiefs, or you can root
against history. But it's amazing that as great as we've
seen the Patriots, and you go back to the Dolphins
in the early seventies, the Niners, Steelers, Steelers, nobody's won
three in a row, right, I mean, that's really so
this could happen. And I was on the sideline, worked
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for Fox the Super Bowl broadcast their first Andy and
Mahomes their first Super Bowl and when they rallied against
the forty nine ers and that's.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
What they do, I saw.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
You know, you have access to things that you don't
normally have if you're not the broadcast network. And these
guys seventeen straight one score games they've won. And so
even though if the Evils are more talented in the
trenches and you know, have maybe the more imposing defense,
the games closed and the Chiefs that the advantage will
be the quarterback and the coach in and and then
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I'm not disparaging Sirianna or Jail. It hurts, but that's
Mahomes and Reed. That's the difference in the game. This difference,
this and the injuries. Looked like the most vulnerable Chiefs
team and every playoff matchup, I really thought the Ravens
were going to beat him. I just thought, you know,
he comes with a pound, with a ground game, with
a quarterback and get out of the pocket with some
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receiving threats.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This team is vulnerable. They're going to fall to the
And they just fifteen and two in the regular season
and here they are in the Super Bowl. Andy Reid
obviously the best best coach in the NFL, and Patrick
Mahomes the recipe for winning a Super Bowl a superstar.
But they have just done it. And I think what's
the most impressive is how unimpressively they just win. They
find a way to win. And if the Eagles have
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anything to be afraid of. It's all of a sudden,
it's not about you know, if what's her name, Taylor
Swift is up in the in the booth. Now you're
starting to see Travis Kelcey the offense getting one hundred
yards making the third down conversions. All look out. Now
he's gonna come back just and die for the three beat.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I mean, it's yeah, it's where and how they use them.
They remind me of and the Patriots had this where
you're good at what you do, and so teams at
a certain point, and I don't know if the other
teams will admit this, they feel the price, like, oh
my god, we're playing the Chiefs and Mahomes. If we
don't do this, then they're gonna do that, and they're
gonna win again. And and it happens whether it's a
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fourth and one call or it's a missfield goal, and
all they need is an opening and then here here
comes Kansas City and they might catch a break on
a flag or whatever. But but they're that good, they're
that calm, and they're that they're that talented.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So all right, let's let's get the preview of the
Super Bowl a J. Brown. We want to see him
involved in the offense, getting getting targets, often making big catches,
not reading books on the sidelines. But there's no mistaking
if the Eagles win, it's going to be on the
shoulders of Saquon Barkley, right.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, well yes, but I do think and this
is what I If you're an Eagles guy, I'm gonna say,
don't don't try to and where their offensive coordinator has
to be careful. Don't try to prove to everybody that
Jalen Hurts can be a great passer.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
That's not his thing. He's an NFL quarterback who's a
great running quarterback. He can throw in certain spots. But
my thing is if the Chiefs worry and are slowing
down Barkley, if that's how you Jalen Hurts as a
runner like you never have before, the guy can change
a game.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He's physically strong, he takes the hits u and he
is healthier coming into this game. And you know Dallas
got it. They'll there'll be ways to throw the ball,
but don't think you can throw the ball against Kansas
City unless they start stacking the line. And putting everybody
up up front and the other side of it. If
you can, if you can keep the ball with limit
the possessions that Mahomes has, and they have the ability
to do that with the run game, right, that's working.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
That's what the things did so effectively against Peyton Manning
and the Colts kept him.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Off the field. Yep.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
And then get them get if you can get up
by more than a score or two of that that way,
when look at that, they should go back and study,
and I'm sure they will. The team that beats the
Chiefs of the Super Bowl was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and they beat them, and the sack total maybe wasn't
as high as it seemed, but they had pressure and
they had litt packages and they had people that harassed Homes.
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Almost funny when the Giants beat Tom Brady and the
Super Bowl. Once that started and they did it early,
it was on them all day and it changed. The
Chiefs didn't even get ten points in that game. The
Bucks feed up. That's early.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Super Bowl lost.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
With this group, That's what this Eagle defense is capable
of doing and will need to do. Not however they
come up with.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I was just gonna say everybody knows everything about
the offense and the storylines and the key players. Not
a lot of people talking about the defenses. And I
will say this for the Chiefs, I much improved. This
may be their best of the three defenses. So look
out for that. All right, Prediction time, Miley, You're the
one that knows more than me. Who's gonna win this?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Well, I mean, at this point, I'm leaning like I
think the Eagles have the better, have the better play,
like I just talked about if they follow lifeline. But
you know what, in the end, I'm not going I
always look the quarterback of the coach in a big game,
and this is the biggest of the game, so it'll
be a heck of a game. The Eagles will have
their chance, But I think Kansas City, whether I like
it or not, or America does that they end up
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winning it because of Mahomes and Reed.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, we see it the same best coach, superstar quarterback
that usually wins. I actually like a very really entertaining,
great football game, very close, Chiefs getting their historic three
pet Hey, what a thrill it is to meet you.
I can't believe how successful you were when I was
a teenager. You weren't that much older than me, but
I guess that's what happens when you started sixteen. Always
been a big fan of your career. Loved your book
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and really appreciate your time visiting us. And if you're
ever in Nashville, I'll take out golf and give you
a tip or two. We'll get that ball going forward.
I do it in the fairway. Thank you, Michael, I
joined it. God bless you, Chris. It was an honor
to meet you. All right, take care.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah, that was fun, good conversation. I didn't even know
we were We're on.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
That was great. That's how I like it. You never
know and you're on the air. The book is called
that deserves a Wow. It made me go, oh wow.
Look forward to everywhere books are sold, Chris Myers. That
deserves a whole. You know you can find it on Amazon.
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you're listening on the iHeartRadio app, David said something off
the air. There's I bring David up and he's not.
We can all see each other and Red and I
can see him talk to David. But there's no way
for Jeffrey to be heard by David unless I turn
up a feed, and then the feed creates slap back,
and then Jeffrey argues about it, and David just said,
(01:14):
I really hate not being able to hear from Jeffrey.
And I just said, off the air, You're not missing anything.
All it is is constant negativity, not coming up next
half hour one of my favorite boy, jeff I can't
believe you betrayed me in such a way, but I'm
surrounded by enemies. I'm used to it. Chris Meyers started
in New Orleans at ww well and went on to
(01:35):
have a great career with the ESPN. I think he's
been with Fox now for a decade. He's out with
a new book I want you to hear all about
and he's going to preview the super Bowl for his
next half hour, and you know his big wisecrack David
is don't fall asleep, And I'm like, I slept through
one interview. You have a history. It's a history of
one's show. I've been in radio forty one years, talk
(01:56):
radio thirty six years. One day I take a nap,
but I oversleep my T Nelson interview. Ye, Well, and
then also you the beginning sleeping through the interview when
it's on the air. Hey, not so fast, you do
you who? I call it an assassination attempt. The virus
you gave me that took three weeks to get over.
(02:16):
One hug and a steak, and I nearly died from
this guy. And then he has the nerve to a
show up with a brick wall buy it him. Looks
like you're getting ready to get assassinated and executed, and
he goes boa. He sounds like you're really finally over it. Yes,
took three that was a nasty virus we had.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well then I wake up this morning and
I know it's a Daytona five hundred time. But then
you're telling Darryl and Stevie Waltrip stories, which once we
get started, we can't stop. We had a whole segment,
We did a whole show on the Public Square on
We could have done three on different stories of their lives.
And we were sitting together recently and I heard a
story I'd never heard before, and that was how Stevie
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Waltrip took on NASCAR in the early years because women
were not allowed on Pitt Road. And women were not
allowed inside the different.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Their husband can go out and maybe die, but they
can't be with them before the race.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, and she really was a pioneer, and she basically
with Grace, but she defied every rule and kept marching.
You could do a Netflix series on her market through
Nascar in regards to the two of them working together.
And then the great story is that when he won
the Daytona five hundred for the first time, it was
Stevie who was running the laps of the mileage on
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the gasoline and it was a discussion between Daryl and
Stevie and the end as to whether he should gas
one more time or go.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's a great story.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
They are.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
If I didn't know them, I would make this observation.
First of all, it's one of the great redemption stories. Yeah,
people forget Daryl Waltrip was like the Raiders. He was
the bad guy, and that's what I gravitated towards him,
And you know it was a huge fan. I told
the story of what would he be doing in Nashville
at a Christmas in America. So I'm up there to
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courage you, give you a hug, and the guy is
standing facing away from me, turns around and it's Darah Walter. Well,
I was just stunned, and I couldn't speak, and he's
shaking my hand and I couldn't speak, and I'm staring
at his hand. And then I turned to Stevie and
I did notice in a split second her beautiful eyes.
But you know, I finally am gonna speak. And what
comes out of my mouth is, you're married to Daryl
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waltrip like an idiot, and she cracks up.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It really happened, guys, I was there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But this bad guy has turned out to be one
of the most broken, tender, godlike believers you will ever meet.
He's one of the sweetest men. And how I ended
up at a wedding of Michael Carr's daughter, whose music
I loved when I first became a Christian. And I'm
at the wedding watching Michael Carr dance with his daughter,
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my friend dance with her son, and I feel a
presence to my left and it's Daryl walterp saying he
no longer feels comfortable giving me his car. He's going
to uber me home. How does that happen? But old
d W you wouldn't know it. Seventy eight years old. Today,
we should we get off the air. We should call him.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, he's looking great too.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And and him and Stevie are just two amazing, precious people.
All right, don't know about the wall trips. I got
to tell you what I'm more Michael carts story though.
A lot of people listening right now, No Michael cart Or.
They know his songs, Oh Love crucified a rose known
by the Scars.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
So Michael and Stevie are in Israel on a trip
on a on a tour and they are at the
Whaling Wall, all right, and and uh, of course this
is the internationally globally recognized point of prayer for the
Jewish people here for the historic Whaling Wall. And they're
there and they're kind of close to the wall, and
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behind them they begin to hear some people singing. And
they look behind them and there's a group of Asian
people there. And I'm almost certain they were Chinese, but
that I'm exactly positive. Now the story goes a group
of Asian people in a circle singing El Shadai, Oh
my Lord.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That Michael wrote by the way, that Amy made famous. Yeah, yeah,
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know what he does now on Wednesday nights, Michael Card,
he teaches studies.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
He teaches a Bible study in a little country church
in Tennessee. They I don't know what promoter, is this
an ad D Wednesday or what. We're just kind of
free flowing on everything looks in two thousand and seven,
and we have so many stories to tell. We know
this one's actually in New Orleans. So I was a
huge Michael Michael Card fan, and and I like Leon
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Pattillo Cornerstone, j E. S u s. He had a
lot of a lot of great hits. And but somebody
made the idea, let's put Michael Card on tour with
Leon Pattillo. So when we show up for the concert,
there's people ready to have a party in a good time,
you know, because Leon Pattillo was more party like type music.
Michael Card, Michael Card, Keith Green, and Rich Mullins. When
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I listened to their lyrics, I know instantly these people
have been in the presence of God in ways I
never haves. All right, And so Michael Card comes out.
He's the opening act with somebody on a cello, Michael
Cart and one other like giant base type musician. And
this guy with pure annoying blows me away while everybody's
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talking while he's performing, because they're there to have a party.
And then Patilla comes on and you know all, you
know what breaks loose, And I remember leaving there so depressed,
thinking the presence of God and the annoying arrived and
everybody missed it looking for a party. I just it
blew me away at that age. Let alone flash forward.
I met his daughter's wedding and Darrel Waltrip saying, I
can't ad the keys to his car. He's gonna drive
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me home. Only in Nashville, only in America, Only in
the Kingdom of God, can these kinds of things happen?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
All right?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, then why not? Why not the Riviera in the
Middle East? I mean, why not have a New York
strip steak at the Caesars Palace, Ruts Christite straight steakhouse
in the Goza while we're at it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Well, the world has got a lot more tolerance for
Donald Trump than I think we may have anticipated. And
this is not This is style, but it's also substance.
This is the way this guy thinks. And now he's
thinking out loud because he can, and because he's amassed
around him a team of people that are also thoughtful
(08:20):
and doers and hard workers. He has the ability to
walk into a situation and say why not. Now, that
is a refreshing reality for leadership.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Leadership.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The first responsibility of a leader, according to Max Dupree
in his book Leadership is an Art, is to define reality.
So Trump walks in and says, Okay, this has been
the mess for X hundred years. Would you all like
to change this? Why not? And they may reach out
to it. Yeah, of course they do. People do everywhere.
People do it in the local county board of elections.
They do it on the Gaza Strip.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
But this is the style of a guy who comes
to life as a problem solver and not as a politician,
and particularly unleash by the fact he knows he cannot
serve another term. And so why not If it's in
your mind and you think it might work, why not
say it out loud? What's the worst that could happen?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Now, one thing we have is poor narrative reporting. So
the narrative today is that Donald Trump wants to seize
the Gaza Strip, own the Gaza Strip, displace all Palestinians
and move bar A Lago there, and move Marlago there. Okay,
that's not what he said. In fact, even in the
Q and A, and it even happened with John Decker,
(09:31):
he made it clear. I mean, first of all, Donald
Trump's talking from this perspective. Look at some footage of
the Gaza Strip. There's nothing to come home to, So
doing nothing is not a solution.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
They can't.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They're displaced right now. There's nothing to come home to it.
The buildings are shelves, so you know, obviously it's a
disaster area now. And what he said was, we'll come in,
we'll level it, we will rebuild it. It'll be a
beautiful place, filled with great jobs, a great secure life,
and will stop re living this nightmare over and over
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again every decade, over five decades. That's what he said.
And the Q and A, somebody said, well, who's going
to live there? And at first the first words out
of his mouth were, well the people of the world,
of course. And I thought, where you're going with this
riviera of the Middle East and people of the world.
You know, but certainly all the Palestinians will come back
to this beautiful place. But others that want to live
there too, So he didn't say he's kicking them out
(10:24):
and they're going to stay out. You know, that's number one,
correct that number two. It's an idea. And as much
as you want to laugh at it or disregard it
or even suggest, well, maybe that's for the Muslims to do,
but they don't. And when they do, they keep putting
terrorists in charge, which just brings on a terrorist attack
(10:46):
and then a retaliation. So how many times are we
going to do this? And it's not insanity? So make
fun of this idea all you want, but that doesn't
change the conditions on the ground, and you don't have
a better idea, and status quo is certainly not a solution.
That's relevant too.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And what's interesting is this is not our first time
around watching his style, and so this is the disruptor,
but he's not an irresponsible disruptor. Of course, anyone in Washington,
DC that gets disruptive claims not only is the person
irresponsible and vicious and hateful, but they file lawsuits. We're
watching now as the DOGE team starts to get involved
(11:26):
in getting access to how the federal bureaucracy works, and
everywhere they turn there are protests and lawsuits because this is.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Like kicking over an ant hill.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean, I don't know if you've ever stood outside
and watched the morning walk through in Washington, d C.
But you can stand outside on a street corner and
watch going into the House and Senate buildings where they
actually have their offices. People line up like ants in
an ant hill. But it's like three blocks long, and
to get through the metal detectors and these are all
the drones that walk through. These are wonderful humans, don't
(11:56):
get me wrong, but it's a drone like process.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
They walk through and into their bee.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Hive or their antil where they basically serve the bureaucracy.
You come in and say, excuse me, have you ever
thought about why don't we change this?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Here's an idea. Let's get another metal detector, not heavy
standing in the street for twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
As soon as you touch a thing, somebody wants to
sue you because you kicked over their ends.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
This is gonna song I'm taking a cheap shot when
he's out on the air, But I did it when
he was on the air, and I just want to
reiterate it. You know, when John Decker, I understand bringing
up a list. Well, first it's Greenland, then it's the
Panama Canal, then it's Canada, then it's Mexico. Now the Gaza.
Well that's not true, because we know there was no
trade war. It was over before it started and won
(12:37):
by Donald Trump. He never wanted to make Canada the
fifty first state. He wanted to wake Canadians up to
their sovereignty. And they need us more than we need them,
and they've been taking advantage of us financially enough. If
you don't want to respectfully come to the table, well
I'll bring it to the table by force. And to
the table they came, and it's solved. So it begs
the question, Well, this is different. This is the epicenter
(12:58):
of the epicenter of the epicenter of the war world.
Does he really want to own the Gaza any more
than he wanted to own the Panama Canal or own
Canada as a fifty first date or is this something
even more brilliant that would lead to a solution that
we don't know either, Or maybe he literally wants.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
To own it and build a casino.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't know, well, and it could be any or
all of the above, But chances are with a person
that has now only forty four months a week, we
think we're forty months away from the next election being
in full swing.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
That's how that's how little time he has. He's speaking
his mind and asking the why not questions. We recognize
that no human has that much capacity, but who knows.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
It's Your Morning Show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Final moments when David s and not he we're talking
about Donald Trump, and obviously the big story is ownership
of the Gaza rebuilding the Gaza riviera of the Middle East,
and certainly it's being rejected in the Middle East. Of
course Russia, Aroan China areing it. But does anybody have
a better idea? And is he being a disruptor or
is he being really an out of the box thinker
(14:06):
and solver and leader. Time will tell. But that brings
up the big question that I was just going to
ask you when you look at the totality of this,
what he did with Canada and Mexico, this whole cabinet's
about to get through. Donald Trump term one, big brag,
big hubris. You're going to get tired of winning. Donald
Trump two point zero second term you really are winning.
(14:29):
And you know, we talked about what he could reasonably
get done in one hundred days. He may be done
in one hundred days. He's gone from a great disruptor
to really a transformational leader. What is the trajectory of
this presidency and Donald Trump in legacy and history, Because
he's really on the precipice of a trajectory towards one
(14:50):
of the most influential presidents of our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
A lot of this will depend on how the narrative
gets reported and received by the American voters. Because they
voted for him because he wasn't Joe Biden. They voted
for him because their trust had been completely broken by
the Democrat machine and by the stands still traditional American media.
Think about this one, Michael, How different is the conversation
(15:16):
we're having today about American foreign policy and domestic policy
compared to Joe Biden living in a basement hiding from
reality while minions around him are spending billions of dollars
to their friends in regards to global warming.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
The whole world's changed. So if the voters get the
straight story, whether he fails or succeeds, we're moving in
a direction that is positive in problem solving. Well, he
got the difference. He got elected by the American people
seeing through the false narratives. And even today sixty seven
percent are behind back to work. It was sixty five
(15:52):
to seventy percent depending on the poll on deportation of illegals.
I don't know. I think they're getting it no matter
what the narrative is, and and we're winning. Gotta break
is there when we come back tomorrow, think about it.
Let me know.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
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with Chris Myers, probably going to make him feel really old.
I watched him as a teenager television in New Orleans,
(17:02):
and I really think that's where the He's got a
great book. I'm going to tell you about that deserves
a while. And then we're going to preview the super Bowl.
But that's really where your relationship with the NFL really began.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, doing so.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
And actually I didn't do Larry Batchit was doing radio
and I'm trying to think of who. I think Jim
Henderson was actually doing the TV preseason and so I
was supposed to, but that fourth out on four was
the big creature to be That helped. And then that's
ESPN spotted me from New Orleans to kind of send
me on the way. So I really did do play
(17:33):
by play till later with Tampa. Whether I was already
kind of involved in the in the business, but a
lot of good New Orleans, I don't if you're selling
the book New Orleans Stories, the fair Grounds Black tat
Let com there's some stuff there that that takes you.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
It takes me back when I was putting it together.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
What's astonishing to me is that I think you're only
like four. You're my brother's age, so you're only like
four years older than me, and yet you were so polished.
I mean, I didn't realize that New Orleans is like
your second stop.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yeah, yes, I could stop second TV stop. I'd done
some radio yet, but I started at sixteen. I mean
that's really almost earlier than that in radio in Miami
on a sports talk station.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, Larry Larry did a lot of college play by
play and he was our sports guy on WTIX when
my dad and I did a morning show together, Love
Love Larry Mattson Jim Henderson was an extraordinary talent. Yes,
and you and you came through and it was just
pure class, pure polished. I've always been a fan of
your your play by play presence, and always proud of
(18:31):
you being a part of my New Orleans origin. I
guess you played in some Super Bowl golf tournament with
my brother Vic, and he told me to tell you
he remembers you the only person he ever played golf
with that when you teed off the ball went backwards.
I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Are we yeah, we are we doing? Are we on
the air doing this?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Well? Yeah, of course why not. We're like family. I
have always wanted to meet you. I have always been
a huge, huge fan.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Because I love that story.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
There.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
You're right, I was a terrible golfer.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
But the reason I answer because I could tell a
gold Berg story where I played golf with him later
the years and I finally, you know, look, I still
I like Charles Barkley by swing, but the golf I
remember I hit went down the fairway and I have
a weird sway Barkley. So is Bill Murray and he says,
in front of everybody. Wow, he goes, I'm absolutely amazed.
I thought he was amazed at the ball go down.
(19:18):
And he goes, you do everything wrong and your swig
and looks so the story and yet the ball still
comes out and somehow goes forward.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So yeah, my golf swig.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Is well, we got to get you.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
We got to get you to National.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I'll give you a couple of lessons because I would
love to meet you. Always been a fan of your career.
You're very, very versatile, I really loved your presence doing
play by play with NFL, but you've done NASCAR thirty
year career, Emmy Award winning play by play guy I
wanted to talk to. We're going to do the Super
Bowl preview in a second, but your book. What I
love about that deserves a while is I remember I
(19:50):
was watching a documentary on Muhammad Ali and Chris. While
the focus of the documentary is Muhammad Ali, what fascinated
me was America in the background, go by over the
years and going through your book, it's kind of like
that you're covering sports, but life's happening in the background,
and these extraordinary events that you happen to be there
(20:11):
to do a job, but then they happen and we
remember them forever and the people you came across. It
really was I'm sure cathartic and reminiscent to sit there
and write all that, but it is just a fascinating
journey through life going on in that thirty years of coverage.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, you've described it well, and it was kind of
a it's kind of a Forrest Gump, you know, use
movie a little bit of that with sports, and then
you're connected with the movie almost famous, you know with
the young rock and roll right journalists, right camera crow
where he's a teenager in the.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Way and so and I saw an athlete.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
When I asked them about their careers, they always say
the same thing about, well, I haven't had time to
worry about that.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
You know, we play the next game. We got next year.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
So that's how it was for me as a broadcaster,
starting in radio, growing up in Miami, thing, getting a
big break in New Orleans to go to ESPN, then
going to Fox, and I'm always you working, so somebody say,
you were at this place and at that place, and
yet from the seventies and disco and Ali my first
interview was a teenager in sports too, Super Bowls and
the time in New Orleans locally just like Miami. And
(21:13):
then the national on the national stage with ESPN's growth
and what I call their golden years whenever the only
game in talent in sports in the nineties, and then
Fox adding from football being the NFL and the Simpsons,
and then adding baseball and NASCAR and soccer in college
and etc.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Etc.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
It really is life going by and my life in sports,
and I have a world going on personally in between
all this that I share a little bit of that.
And the reason I did that is because I think
I wanted you to see some of the great sporting
moments and people that I interviewed through through my eyes
and maybe the part of the story that you didn't
see or you didn't hear.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
And it was fun. Yeah, it was cathartic doing.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And I wrote it though, because they approached me and said,
we got to tell people not only we've seen or
heard we can all relate to something in these stories,
but what else was going on with you behind the scenes.
And that's kind of what I tried to one of
my favorite sports guys, Chris Myers, joining us. The name
of the book is that deserves a whow get it
everywhere books are sold, including Amazon. Ali, I guess that
(22:12):
was kind of a little bit anti climactic. Maybe the
most unique amazing human being you could ever meet, you
met first and young I got to spend a day
with Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser together along with Riccory
a long long time ago in tels Oklahoma fundraiser for
the Tulsa Boys Home and then the Parkinson's had developed,
(22:33):
and so with Ali, you could see in his eyes.
He was just as quick getting the funny thought, but
it took a while to come out, so you'd see
it in his eyes and then you'd wait for it
and wait for it and an amazing zinger. The interesting
part of the day was Ali seemed to love Fraser
and loved to give him a hard time. Fraser seemed
to still have animosity and not like him. That was
(22:54):
an interesting dynamic. But Muhammad Ali one of the most interesting,
extraordinary people I ever spent a day with.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
What was your day like?
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, Well, because it was my from I'm leaving a
high school humanities class and rushing over to the Fountain
Blue Hotel in Miami Beach. The interview Ali is my
first as a radio reporter at sixteen, and when they
called it was the last minute. The sports director couldn't
make it, so I wasn't as prepared. And I mean
I knew who Ali was, of course, but I was
still in high school. But when I walked in, it
(23:23):
was scene out of a out of a movie with
the season sports writers, the hats, the cigar smoke, you
know that type of thing, and Ali was Ali. He was,
I mean, just the charisma that he exhibited forget the ring.
I mean that speaks for itself, the greatness there. But
he commanded the room and when I had a moment
to get my question in his response was he you
know it was the seventies and long hair and tape recorder.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, he said, you're not as dumb as you look, kid. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
So they laughed at that, but he answered my question.
And yeah, the human side of him was fascinating. But
but what you mentioned about him and Joe Fraser, I
was a little bit of later how I'd have a
very contentious interview with Mike Tyson over in the Holy
Field of Earbiting incident where Tyson almost tries to beat
me up, which I talk about the book at his
his house in Las Vegas, and thank god his sparring
(24:12):
partner and security guard where they're to keep him from
getting That's a memorable moment because you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Don't getting all psycho onion flapping your faith.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, I said, Mike, if you don't want to answer
the question, just tell me and I'll leave. But anyway,
he have been have been the holy field, uh, you know,
the holy earbiding. They later have become you know, they're reconciled,
so to speak, so at the moment they needed the
intense dislikely that Fraser. Fraser did not because usually the winny,
the guy who wins, it's easy for him to say, hey,
all it's good. Uh, the other guy it's not. But
(24:43):
Tyson finally came around.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
To that loving me, loving me some visit with Chris Myers.
Let me let me ask you about like, you know,
you go to cover a world series. I was watching
for my condo just outside Washington, d C. At the time,
and you get the feeling that a world series is
bigger than life, certain bigger than the game even and
yet mother Nature had something to remind us, was that
(25:05):
one of the more extraordinary things you're there doing, probably
storylines and player profiles. You're ready for the big game,
and an earthquake happens.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, that was the right the A's Giants, and all
of a sudden, with Bob Lee, Chris Burman, some of
the great the pillars of ESPN, we scatter and realized
that we didn't know at the time how devastating it
was across the area. So we were just concerned in
our little sports world. But boy it shook and we
had to quickly go into reporting mode. I remember seeing
Tony LaRussa Mark McGuire from the as scattering. We were
(25:38):
trying to get near their families and the stands. I mean,
there wasn't as much damage in that in that stadium,
but the fact that we were all to stay on
the air and report, get more information around from different
places that had severe damage. And then of course with
the World Series continue to be played or not and
when would it be and then spending time with the commissioner. Yeah,
that was That was one of those moments, and then
(26:01):
there would be other moments.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Visiting with Chris Myers play by play Emmy Award winning
broadcaster for thirty years. The name of the book is
called That Deserves a Wow. It is a must read.
Get it everywhere books are sold, including Amazon. When we
come back, obviously we got a game we didn't necessarily want,
but it's going to be a good one and it's
a great matchup. We'll even get to predictions when we
(26:23):
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We'll be here on Sunday. And I know it's not
the matchup everybody wanted, Lions Bills. You end up with
what you knew was coming, Chiefs Eagulls. But at the
end of the day, really is going to be a
great game. We're visiting with Chris Myers and we'll go
over some of the players. We'll even get to our prediction.
But one thing I think I can predict pretty safely,
this is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Yes, And you can still get and by the way,
most of the people are with you on that. You
can still get history the Chiefs, or you can root
against history. But it's amazing that as great as we've
seen the Patriots, and you go back to the Dolphins
in the early seventies, the Niners, Steelers, Steelers, nobody's won
three in a row, right, I mean, that's really so
this could happen. And I was on the sideline, worked
(29:35):
for Fox the Super Bowl broadcast their first Andy and
Mahomes their first Super Bowl and when they rallied against
the forty nine ers and that's.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
What they do, I saw.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
You know, you have access to things that you don't
normally have if you're not the broadcast network. And these
guys seventeen straight one score games they've won. And so
even though if the Evils are more talented in the
trenches and you know, have maybe the more imposing defense,
the games closed and the Chiefs that the advantage will
be the quarterback and the coach in and and then
(30:04):
I'm not disparaging Sirianna or Jail. It hurts, but that's
Mahomes and Reed. That's the difference in the game. This difference,
this and the injuries. Looked like the most vulnerable Chiefs
team and every playoff matchup, I really thought the Ravens
were going to beat him. I just thought, you know,
he comes with a pound, with a ground game, with
a quarterback and get out of the pocket with some
(30:24):
receiving threats.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
This team is vulnerable. They're going to fall to the
And they just fifteen and two in the regular season
and here they are in the Super Bowl. Andy Reid
obviously the best best coach in the NFL, and Patrick
Mahomes the recipe for winning a Super Bowl a superstar.
But they have just done it. And I think what's
the most impressive is how unimpressively they just win. They
find a way to win. And if the Eagles have
(30:47):
anything to be afraid of. It's all of a sudden,
it's not about you know, if what's her name, Taylor
Swift is up in the in the booth. Now you're
starting to see Travis Kelcey the offense getting one hundred
yards making the third down conversions. All look out. Now
he's gonna come back just and die for the three beat.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I mean, it's yeah, it's where and how they use them.
They remind me of and the Patriots had this where
you're good at what you do, and so teams at
a certain point, and I don't know if the other
teams will admit this, they feel the price, like, oh
my god, we're playing the Chiefs and Mahomes. If we
don't do this, then they're gonna do that, and they're
gonna win again. And and it happens whether it's a
(31:30):
fourth and one call or it's a missfield goal, and
all they need is an opening and then here here
comes Kansas City and they might catch a break on
a flag or whatever. But but they're that good, they're
that calm, and they're that they're that talented.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So all right, let's let's get the preview of the
Super Bowl a J. Brown. We want to see him
involved in the offense, getting getting targets, often making big catches,
not reading books on the sidelines. But there's no mistaking
if the Eagles win, it's going to be on the
shoulders of Saquon Barkley, right.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, well yes, but I do think and this
is what I If you're an Eagles guy, I'm gonna say,
don't don't try to and where their offensive coordinator has
to be careful. Don't try to prove to everybody that
Jalen Hurts can be a great passer.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
That's not his thing. He's an NFL quarterback who's a
great running quarterback. He can throw in certain spots. But
my thing is if the Chiefs worry and are slowing
down Barkley, if that's how you Jalen Hurts as a
runner like you never have before, the guy can change
a game.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
He's not.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
He's physically strong, he takes the hits u and he
is healthier coming into this game. And you know Dallas
got it. They'll there'll be ways to throw the ball,
but don't think you can throw the ball against Kansas
City unless they start stacking the line. And putting everybody
up up front and the other side of it. If
you can, if you can keep the ball with limit
the possessions that Mahomes has, and they have the ability
to do that with the run game, right, that's working.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
That's what the things did so effectively against Peyton Manning
and the Colts kept him.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Off the field. Yep.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
And then get them get if you can get up
by more than a score or two of that that way,
when look at that, they should go back and study,
and I'm sure they will. The team that beats the
Chiefs of the Super Bowl was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and they beat them, and the sack total maybe wasn't
as high as it seemed, but they had pressure and
they had litt packages and they had people that harassed Homes.
(33:18):
Almost funny when the Giants beat Tom Brady and the
Super Bowl. Once that started and they did it early,
it was on them all day and it changed. The
Chiefs didn't even get ten points in that game. The
Bucks feed up. That's early.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Super Bowl lost.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
With this group, That's what this Eagle defense is capable
of doing and will need to do. Not however they
come up with.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, I was just gonna say everybody knows everything about
the offense and the storylines and the key players. Not
a lot of people talking about the defenses. And I
will say this for the Chiefs, I much improved. This
may be their best of the three defenses. So look
out for that. All right, Prediction time, Miley, You're the
one that knows more than me. Who's gonna win this?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Well, I mean, at this point, I'm leaning like I
think the Eagles have the better, have the better play,
like I just talked about if they follow lifeline. But
you know what, in the end, I'm not going I
always look the quarterback of the coach in a big game,
and this is the biggest of the game, so it'll
be a heck of a game. The Eagles will have
their chance, But I think Kansas City, whether I like
it or not, or America does that they end up
(34:13):
winning it because of Mahomes and Reed.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Well, we see it the same best coach, superstar quarterback
that usually wins. I actually like a very really entertaining,
great football game, very close, Chiefs getting their historic three
pet Hey, what a thrill it is to meet you.
I can't believe how successful you were when I was
a teenager. You weren't that much older than me, but
I guess that's what happens when you started sixteen. Always
been a big fan of your career. Loved your book
(34:36):
and really appreciate your time visiting us. And if you're
ever in Nashville, I'll take out golf and give you
a tip or two. We'll get that ball going forward.
I do it in the fairway. Thank you, Michael, I
joined it. God bless you, Chris. It was an honor
to meet you. All right, take care.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah, that was fun, good conversation. I didn't even know
we were We're on.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
That was great. That's how I like it. You never
know and you're on the air. The book is called
that deserves a Wow. It made me go, oh wow.
Look forward to everywhere books are sold, Chris Myers. That
deserves a whole. You know you can find it on Amazon.
All right, that's gonna do it for us. You missed anything.
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you every morning. Tomorrow we're gonna talk to a movie
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we'll go over the script together.
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We're all in this together.
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