Your Morning Show senior correspondent David Zanotti debates with Michael on how the traditional media is not going to let Trump have credit for any win his administration may bring to the table.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It was an not he's joining us. You know, I've
been having a conversation. Might as well continue it with
you and John Decker Greed. I presume you will. John
Decker has covered eight presidents as a White House spokesperson
slash correspondent. I don't know how many you've covered. Well
(00:24):
over eleven eleven, Okay, I think I'm met thirty five years.
I'm somewhere around eight or nine, No more than that.
Probably this is like no presidency we've ever covered. I mean,
you think about yesterday. If we were having a conversation
and this is me, shame on me, I would go, gee,
I don't know. This tariff thing is playing with fire.
(00:46):
And while I can see the long term solution, the
temporary pain could open a window for the left to
blame him for not fixing the economy and maybe tip
the scales in a midterm election. Why even create that vulnerability.
Get on a plane, go to Canada and end this.
Or I might have said, you know enough of this,
you know, get with the Ukraine, Russia, you know, get
(01:10):
this thing done. Don't leave this vulnerability. And now in
the midst of that, you've got the Department of Education
battle starting, and yet today look how different it looks
from even yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, And a big part of the challenge, Michael, is
the media has come back off of vacation. Whatever they
went through for forty days, whether it was grief, lamenting,
catching up on sick days, or whatever, they're back. And
for example, the story on Ukraine. If I had just
turned into your program this morning and it was the
(01:42):
only thing I had heard in the last thirty six hours,
I would think that I would turn to every news
source right now online at ap UPI everyone, Washington Times,
New York Posts, New York at Times, Washington Press Posts, sorry,
all of them, and Ukraine would be the number one headline,
not even close, not even close. It's six, eight, ten,
(02:06):
twelve stories deep, and it's not even what you reported.
So they're back, and they are not going to let
Trump succeed.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That goes without But their problem is they have no
influence anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So on a second, I don't agree with that. I
don't agree with that. When they're all together, who counterbalances
them because what they're saying controls everything on the on
the pren who could have all this leftist fox and
talk radio.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know I would make I have a different view.
I don't think there's anybody under fifty using traditional media anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, here's the thing we can say, Yes I would,
I would say you're correct if you look at the
numbers in one. I mean, the matrix has changed, but
the little Matrianism is different. But the content on the
delivery system is still being created by these same people.
Just because they're getting it off of social media or
off of x or they're hearing it discussed in a podcast,
(03:09):
it's still the content creation. The stories are still being created,
and the stories that you look at today are night
and day in regards to what just happened in regards
to moving far tho, I don't mind, you know, having
a disagreement.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But you got Elon Muskin with Joe Rogan and he's
explaining NP these NPOs.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And by the way, he was exaggerating quite a bit
about millions of NGOs, but in the nonprofit sector for
forty five years, there aren't millions and millions, tens of
thousands he is what he but then then he brought
it back down to tens of thousands.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, but I mean I could I can take we
could do the whole story on the reverend, the episcopal
bishop who gave the chastising speech of the president inauguration day.
And now you find out she received fifty three million
dollars in twenty twenty three, and they doubled the amount
they were serving in twenty two twenty four, potentially double
the amount of money she received. But I think more
people probably heard that podcast. I could add up ABCNBCCBS,
(04:08):
Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN and it would be one
fifth of who heard that podcast. So how much should
we want to focus on a mainstream media that is
clearly in an opposition.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
They've taken it upon themselves. They're in opposition or obstruction. Well, yeah,
to make your point, we've left about this line before,
and probably with the twentieth person who said it. But
if Donald Trump, if today Donald Trump walked on water,
all of those places with the headline would be Trump
can't swim, right, right, I mean, that's basically what we're
(04:41):
dealing with here. And he's exactly right, just like he
looked at the Democrats with their little paddle signs. There's
no way he's going to catch a break. But the
reality is that content still being created, is still being
being disseminated, and he has to overcome that content. He's
doing a brilliant job by doing it with action. In
other words, he's forcing the them to cover the stories
(05:02):
that he's created. He set in the agenda. They get that,
and in his case it's.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But in his case it's all promises made, promise kept,
not just for his supporters, but independence and a majority
of the American people and surprisingly more young people and
Democrats than they've realized. And I'm going to get to
that in a second, but let's just put all that aside.
How different is this president to cover because what we're
(05:29):
dealing with in some cases is method and process, not destination.
But we respond to react like it's destination. Oh my god,
he's starting a tariff war. No, he's using tariffs as
a tool to level a playing field and grow an economy.
But he's doing it for everyone to see, and so
that's what creates the panic. And it's almost by design. No,
(05:51):
sooner you go, boy, did he blow with Ukraine. They've
reached the thirty day seas fire. Now they're heading to
Russia to get Russia to the table. And by the way,
re release this is also lost in the conversation. I'm
sure you're not seeing this on any of your websites
that you're looking at. We've released money and weapons again.
So there's reasons for Putin to come to the table,
because if Putin decides not to come to the table,
(06:13):
he's going to continue to be fighting a warn't he
can't win, that's elongated. So I think you'll see Putin
come to the table. But just as you said, oh,
they've blown it with this war. Now the war's headed
towards the ceasefire. Oh he's going crazy with tariffs. Now
they're all coming to the table, and I guess the
next fight will be Department of Education or the budget,
one of the two. But he continues to win in
(06:35):
the long run. But in the short run, I'm not
worried about what the media is saying. I'm worried about,
like our listeners, you got to give this time. He's
a tough president to cover. I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Said it that way. I may not have done it
that way. I might have done it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Behind closed doors. He doesn't, but it still works. No,
you couldn't be more right.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He is a tough president to comprehend because we've not
seen one like this president in a lifetime. First Off,
he's only got one turn. Secondly, he's coming back into office,
which has only happened one time before in the history
of our country. And third he has got an agenda
that is not going to be stopped. He's here to
accomplish things and he will exhaust every effort, win or lose.
(07:14):
He's going to try everything that he possibly can to
show the American people that this country is in a
death spiral and that unless we dramatically change, we're not
going to make it. That's not the agenda of someone
looking to get reelected. So that's what we usually face.
So the question is, how do you make a great
president even greater? Would we change anything about the way trustee? Yeah,
(07:38):
I would change the way they're working on DOGE. They
need to have a longer plan on DOGE. I don't
mean that they should not do the actions that they're doing.
I think that they keep sending signals that they're just
kind of not that they're just getting started. That we understand.
But like yesterday, the conversation is, well, how long do
you think you'll be doing this, well, he'll know when
it's over. When Dots first came out, it was this
(07:58):
is going to be a full report released on July fourth, six.
Why not strict to the anniversary. Yeah, why not submit
a thousand page report that shows all of it? Because
real quickly before the break, David explain to them what
the Left is going to do with courts and that,
and you you've opened the door up for them to
(08:20):
use courts to really start obstructing this right. Every time
Elon starts acting like he actually is a government agency,
he gets sued. And it's going to stay that way
the whole way along. You either have to be an
advisor doing investigation or you've got to get inside the
laws on transparency that are quite irre. They're not retractable,
(08:40):
they're real. So they've got to be careful that they
don't go too deep in trying to put Doge and
Musk in the front as a causal agent and keep
him as a researcher in tech support.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now, I want the swamp drained, and I want the
corruption and overspending and misspending to stop. But this is
a legitimate pa for the Democrats to be an opposing party,
not obstructionist opposing party, and take this to courts and
create a lot of trouble or a lot of distraction
at the very least right right, and they.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Can time up. Now. They'll win the cases eventually, but
it may take three years. And again it's just they
don't have time for that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And you could have avoided it by just sticking to
the parameters and the dates that you stated. That's one
of those cases where it's an open door, and that's
one that, unlike Ukraine and the Russian War and unlike tariffs,
could end up in a bad place for you if
you don't play it smarter and more careful.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It was an not he's joining us. You know, I've
been having a conversation. Might as well continue it with
you and John Decker Greed. I presume you will. John
Decker has covered eight presidents as a White House spokesperson
slash correspondent. I don't know how many you've covered. Well
(00:24):
over eleven eleven, Okay, I think I'm met thirty five years.
I'm somewhere around eight or nine, No more than that.
Probably this is like no presidency we've ever covered. I mean,
you think about yesterday. If we were having a conversation
and this is me, shame on me, I would go, gee,
I don't know. This tariff thing is playing with fire.
(00:46):
And while I can see the long term solution, the
temporary pain could open a window for the left to
blame him for not fixing the economy and maybe tip
the scales in a midterm election. Why even create that vulnerability.
Get on a plane, go to Canada and end this.
Or I might have said, you know enough of this,
you know, get with the Ukraine, Russia, you know, get
(01:10):
this thing done. Don't leave this vulnerability. And now in
the midst of that, you've got the Department of Education
battle starting, and yet today look how different it looks
from even yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, And a big part of the challenge, Michael, is
the media has come back off of vacation. Whatever they
went through for forty days, whether it was grief, lamenting,
catching up on sick days, or whatever, they're back. And
for example, the story on Ukraine. If I had just
turned into your program this morning and it was the
(01:42):
only thing I had heard in the last thirty six hours,
I would think that I would turn to every news
source right now online at ap UPI everyone, Washington Times,
New York Posts, New York at Times, Washington Press Posts, sorry,
all of them, and Ukraine would be the number one headline,
not even close, not even close. It's six, eight, ten,
(02:06):
twelve stories deep, and it's not even what you reported.
So they're back, and they are not going to let
Trump succeed.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That goes without But their problem is they have no
influence anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So on a second, I don't agree with that. I
don't agree with that. When they're all together, who counterbalances
them because what they're saying controls everything on the on
the pren who could have all this leftist fox and
talk radio.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't know I would make I have a different view.
I don't think there's anybody under fifty using traditional media anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, here's the thing we can say, Yes I would,
I would say you're correct if you look at the
numbers in one. I mean, the matrix has changed, but
the little Matrianism is different. But the content on the
delivery system is still being created by these same people.
Just because they're getting it off of social media or
off of x or they're hearing it discussed in a podcast,
(03:09):
it's still the content creation. The stories are still being created,
and the stories that you look at today are night
and day in regards to what just happened in regards
to moving far tho, I don't mind, you know, having
a disagreement.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But you got Elon Muskin with Joe Rogan and he's
explaining NP these NPOs.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And by the way, he was exaggerating quite a bit
about millions of NGOs, but in the nonprofit sector for
forty five years, there aren't millions and millions, tens of
thousands he is what he but then then he brought
it back down to tens of thousands.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, but I mean I could I can take we
could do the whole story on the reverend, the episcopal
bishop who gave the chastising speech of the president inauguration day.
And now you find out she received fifty three million
dollars in twenty twenty three, and they doubled the amount
they were serving in twenty two twenty four, potentially double
the amount of money she received. But I think more
people probably heard that podcast. I could add up ABCNBCCBS,
(04:08):
Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN and it would be one
fifth of who heard that podcast. So how much should
we want to focus on a mainstream media that is
clearly in an opposition.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
They've taken it upon themselves. They're in opposition or obstruction. Well, yeah,
to make your point, we've left about this line before,
and probably with the twentieth person who said it. But
if Donald Trump, if today Donald Trump walked on water,
all of those places with the headline would be Trump
can't swim, right, right, I mean, that's basically what we're
(04:41):
dealing with here. And he's exactly right, just like he
looked at the Democrats with their little paddle signs. There's
no way he's going to catch a break. But the
reality is that content still being created, is still being
being disseminated, and he has to overcome that content. He's
doing a brilliant job by doing it with action. In
other words, he's forcing the them to cover the stories
(05:02):
that he's created. He set in the agenda. They get that,
and in his case it's.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But in his case it's all promises made, promise kept,
not just for his supporters, but independence and a majority
of the American people and surprisingly more young people and
Democrats than they've realized. And I'm going to get to
that in a second, but let's just put all that aside.
How different is this president to cover because what we're
(05:29):
dealing with in some cases is method and process, not destination.
But we respond to react like it's destination. Oh my god,
he's starting a tariff war. No, he's using tariffs as
a tool to level a playing field and grow an economy.
But he's doing it for everyone to see, and so
that's what creates the panic. And it's almost by design. No,
(05:51):
sooner you go, boy, did he blow with Ukraine. They've
reached the thirty day seas fire. Now they're heading to
Russia to get Russia to the table. And by the way,
re release this is also lost in the conversation. I'm
sure you're not seeing this on any of your websites
that you're looking at. We've released money and weapons again.
So there's reasons for Putin to come to the table,
because if Putin decides not to come to the table,
(06:13):
he's going to continue to be fighting a warn't he
can't win, that's elongated. So I think you'll see Putin
come to the table. But just as you said, oh,
they've blown it with this war. Now the war's headed
towards the ceasefire. Oh he's going crazy with tariffs. Now
they're all coming to the table, and I guess the
next fight will be Department of Education or the budget,
one of the two. But he continues to win in
(06:35):
the long run. But in the short run, I'm not
worried about what the media is saying. I'm worried about,
like our listeners, you got to give this time. He's
a tough president to cover. I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Said it that way. I may not have done it
that way. I might have done it.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Behind closed doors. He doesn't, but it still works. No,
you couldn't be more right.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
He is a tough president to comprehend because we've not
seen one like this president in a lifetime. First Off,
he's only got one turn. Secondly, he's coming back into office,
which has only happened one time before in the history
of our country. And third he has got an agenda
that is not going to be stopped. He's here to
accomplish things and he will exhaust every effort, win or lose.
(07:14):
He's going to try everything that he possibly can to
show the American people that this country is in a
death spiral and that unless we dramatically change, we're not
going to make it. That's not the agenda of someone
looking to get reelected. So that's what we usually face.
So the question is, how do you make a great
president even greater? Would we change anything about the way trustee? Yeah,
(07:38):
I would change the way they're working on DOGE. They
need to have a longer plan on DOGE. I don't
mean that they should not do the actions that they're doing.
I think that they keep sending signals that they're just
kind of not that they're just getting started. That we understand.
But like yesterday, the conversation is, well, how long do
you think you'll be doing this, well, he'll know when
it's over. When Dots first came out, it was this
(07:58):
is going to be a full report released on July fourth, six.
Why not strict to the anniversary. Yeah, why not submit
a thousand page report that shows all of it? Because
real quickly before the break, David explain to them what
the Left is going to do with courts and that,
and you you've opened the door up for them to
(08:20):
use courts to really start obstructing this right. Every time
Elon starts acting like he actually is a government agency,
he gets sued. And it's going to stay that way
the whole way along. You either have to be an
advisor doing investigation or you've got to get inside the
laws on transparency that are quite irre. They're not retractable,
(08:40):
they're real. So they've got to be careful that they
don't go too deep in trying to put Doge and
Musk in the front as a causal agent and keep
him as a researcher in tech support.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now, I want the swamp drained, and I want the
corruption and overspending and misspending to stop. But this is
a legitimate pa for the Democrats to be an opposing party,
not obstructionist opposing party, and take this to courts and
create a lot of trouble or a lot of distraction
at the very least right right, and they.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Can time up. Now. They'll win the cases eventually, but
it may take three years. And again it's just they
don't have time for that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And you could have avoided it by just sticking to
the parameters and the dates that you stated. That's one
of those cases where it's an open door, and that's
one that, unlike Ukraine and the Russian War and unlike tariffs,
could end up in a bad place for you if
you don't play it smarter and more careful.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
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