In a nation under God, is our relationship with God, individually, deteriorating? A poll says yes, but senior contributor Dave Zanotti says, “not so fast!”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
David and Ott.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
He got up early to help serve you, and we
can't have a conversation with you without your voice. So
use that talkback button on your iHeartRadio app, like this
listener did yesterday about David.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't think I've heard David get that riled up.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Ever, I first of all, I have seen him get
that riled up. I'll never forget if I can just
start with this story. I mean, you can't just crave
hard news all the time. So David's a better golfer.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Period.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
One day I beat him, and then I have a
radio show, So I got on the air, and you know, naturally,
when you play with somebody every day for a decade, lose, lose, lose, and.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Then one day you win. You know, it's exciting. So
I bragged about it on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
The next time we played golf, I got there and
I'm really hug him, you know, and I notice he's
being cold.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Then we get in the cart, I know he's not
talking to me and he's just.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Got this look in his face and he pounded me
whole after all. After all, Yeah, you got a little
while the the the left narrative of these kids have immigrants,
they're gonna come home from school and their parents are
gonna be gone.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
David launches into a diaride the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Only reason they're gonna come home with their parents are
gone is because they're both having't worked to job to
pay for.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
All these illegal to which the listener called up and.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Said, I must say, I don't think I've heard David
get that riled up. Ever, it was one of my
favorite moments of the year. Good morning, have you calmed down?
Good morning, Michael, and you have just a slight slip there.
I wish we had been playing golf every day. No,
I don't play golf about once a month.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Whatever it was. I just noticed the next time we played,
you bounded me.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You know my old my old friend coach mackiw used
to say this was He would say z when you win,
say little, when you lose, say less.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I haven't said anything since, so I guess I
learned that lesson. All right, there was a poll a
Barnepol yesterday and this isn't beat up on Barna. This
is conversation understanding. I have been one of the few
people and that's not to pat myself on the back.
I'd like to hear more people noticing this. And this
(02:06):
is purely experiential. If before my children were born, you
asked me, what's the number one goal, it would be
that they would see Jesus in me, and they would
know Christ as savior, and that they would find strength
better than me to make Him lord daily. That would
have been my goal. But I never really had to
impose or teach my faith. I watched my kids generation
(02:30):
born with a measure of faith. What do I mean
by a measure of faith. It's not a mental struggle
for them, it was a gift of faith.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
They grew up in faith.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They spontaneously started having Bible studies among themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Which are hilarious to listen to.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But and I have been noticing that this generation, whether
it's rebellion, whether it's chosen measure of faith, I don't know.
But we have witnessed a cultural shift and reawakening, which
could be different than spiritual revival, but definitely culture shift.
(03:10):
And you just saw a political revolution. You just saw
decades of leftist worldview and ideology die right before your eyes.
And it came on gradually. But it left in one
fails swoop and it's gone, and David in his team
do Christmas in America. And I'll never forget the year
(03:30):
we did the Depression because the greatest takeaway for me
was you don't have the greatest generation unless they grow
up in the Depression. The product of the depression created
the men that liberated the world and fought a World War.
I think the offspring of a generation of oppression has
(03:54):
just given birth to a generation who's ready to liberate
America and return to its faith and values. So I'm
seeing all that, and then this poll pops up in
the nation under God, our relationship with God individually is deteriorating,
and I thought, well, that just doesn't match what I'm
(04:16):
seeing at all.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
David, you had a chance to go through the survey.
What did you find?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, Michael, first off, thanks for the opportunity and again
a little bit of credentials. Thanks for giving me the
credentials that you do and this opportunity on this program.
We've been at this for a long time, and part
of the journey that we've had as a public policy
organization for the last forty five years has been to
get inside what polling really is back in the day
(04:44):
when polls were actually being conducted by phone survey bases
with a sincere amount of collegiate science applied to the mechanism,
and people had landlines and they answered their phones because
they didn't know who was calling. The world of telephone
polls and the kind of survey mechanism, the signs they
are built on had some pretty good legitimacy if the
poll was corrected or correctly assembled. But the reality is
(05:07):
whoever puts the poll together can get whatever results they
want based upon how they create their sample, how many
people they talk to, the questions that they asked, the
questions that they don't, the language that they use in
the question, how much time they spend, the people they
employed to ask the questions. There are a tremendous amount
of details. That's why posters made so much money because
it was really hard to do, and they were dedicated
to people who.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Wanted to know. Pay big money and I learned all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now, when you can't achieve sample sizing, which they can't
because nobody's landlines anymore and they can't find people to respond, well,
it's no different than when COVID started and we were
looking at all the assumptions in some of these models
that said such and such million would die by easter.
Well it was completely an accurate because what are you
putting in that model? That's what they do with polling
every day. Well, then you just brought up the ultimate bias,
(05:52):
which is how you asked the question.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and what the actual words are.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So these things are so if we're going to be
critical of polling in general, we're going to be particularly
critical of polling law that is manipulated, then everybody ought
to have a chance to be reviewed. And so when
I reviewed this barnupiece doctor George Barne, and he's pretty
famous among the National Religious Religious Broadcasters crew, pretty famous
(06:18):
among the church folks. I mean, he gets preached into
a lot of sermons, right. Therefore, he manages to sell
a lot of books because he does polls and then
writes books about his polls. And it's kind of always
the idea of I know something you don't know, well,
he might do it, he might manage it. However, when
you look at the details on this, it doesn't add up.
(06:39):
Number One, we don't he doesn't say to us, even
at second and third level, research. Did he talk to
people on the landlines, did he talk to people on
cell phones?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Did he talk to people? All we know is that.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There's this group that he refers to that has a
database of people that they pull always say what's that?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And that sounds more like a focus group.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It sounds like an online survey, right of twenty one
hundred people. And then you look at the kind of
questions that they ask and it's all church talk, right,
So people don't respond able to church talk if they
don't hang around a church a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Can I give you a great example.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Sure, So we took a tour of another university for
Nick proud to say, where my two of my kids go.
It's a great university. They did a little survey to
me after our visit, wanting to always improve how they
do visits. And one of the questions was just all
of this gobbly gok woke speak, and this from a
(07:38):
university that shouldn't be in the gobbly gook you know,
word speech business. And I said, well, I don't respond
well to all those woke words, but I will tell
you this. The person that gave the tour was knowledgeable,
thorough and we felt very welcomed.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It was simply I.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Wasn't interested in do the university express its inclusiveness and
this and all this other? No, so, but do the
reverse of that for a poll like this. So now
you're talking to the American people using church lingo that
they don't respond to. It makes it feel like they're
less responsive to God. No, they're less responsive to your
cultural God speak, not God right, And the way that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You ask the question, I mean, first off, there's a
passage in the scripture that goes the whole way back
to King David and even farther than that, and is
that God knows what's in everybody's heart.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
God alone knows what's in people's hearts. You know, it's
your preyer before you speak it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, that was the one that advantage that Jesus had
when he was here, as a scripture says, he always
knew what was in the heart of the person he
was talking to. He had the inside polling data on
everybody that he was in confrontation with. So here you're
asking questions that are very difficult to interpret, and there's
a lot of adverbs and adjectives describing the results merely severely.
(08:50):
I mean all these kinds of words that you always
you know, dug gone when you watch the adverbs, Okay,
because the adverbs tell you it's to tell it's overstated.
For certainly, I mean, is this one just sixteen percent
say God is the most important element of their life. Well,
first off, I would say no to that question, because
(09:11):
God's not an element.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, I mean, because like, let's say, all right, I'm
just I'm helping you now, I'm not going to interrupt,
But my marriage on earth would be one of the
most important things, not cars, not homes, not income, my marriage,
the covenant marriage with my wife, then my children, and
my wife comes before my children because I can never
love my kids more than I love their mother. But
(09:35):
that's all in my relationship with God. That's all fruits
of my relationship with God. So to differentiate that is
really not even good theology.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Right, Well, can I give you another example, knowing you're
not interrupting at all, jump wherever you want. Fewer than
one third, thirty one percent believe that God is actively.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Involved in every moment of their life.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Excuse me if we live in a country where thirty
one percent of the people believe God is actively involved
in every moment of their life.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What's the second category, most moments of my life?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, by now we certainly have over sixty percent or
now and then, Okay, I mean think about the way
the questions are structured.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I mean, at the end of the day, it sounds
like I don't I just look, it doesn't make a
lot of sense to me.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Let's go back to what you started with, okay, which
is the fact that we have a generation that has
watched their adults exceed in the abuses of drugs, sex, alcohol, entertainment,
social media, et cetera, et cetera. They've watched a country
that's bankrupted their families, forced their parents to work two jobs.
(10:43):
Some of those cases created divorces in the household and
the family. They've come to the end of themselves. They
can't survive on a perfection culture. They know we're facing
a national debt that means they'll never pay less taxes
than they pay right now. They've come to the end
of the road, and they're sick of it, and they're
looking up for answers.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I look back in horror.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
When I watched Jade Bance's movie, I thought to myself,
you thought that was dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You should have grown up in my house.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But I look back haunted by had I grown up
in a family that had it all together, two parents
like the Brady's, strong in faith, going to Sunday school,
going to Wednesday Night, saying, I don't know that I
would have responded to the Gospel the way I did,
coming from complete destruction, coming from complete disruption, coming from
(11:37):
complete dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And then I saw the gospel.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Why would it be any different for our unborn, our
newly born children. They were born into a world of
the consequences of conformity, and they were just born with
a seed of transformation in them. Or, as we've talked
about in the past two if you're going to rebel
against parents that you know the minute you dressed like
a girl on Halloween they want to nip you, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Going to go far right.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's the only lane for rebellion is to go a
traditional conservative and right.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You add what they experienced in COVID, Oh, that was
as draw one across the whole culture, including their world,
and how the government that they didn't even give two
thoughts about six months prior to that, was suddenly saying
no problem for you, No football games for you. We
got women in the Midwest being tased by school security
guards because they won't put on a mask at a
(12:28):
junior high school football game, and they're dragging the person
off the jail.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They saw all this stuff. They're not blind.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
How about the four generations that created thirty five trillion
dollars of debt not awakening and this generation taking one
now living them. Dave Ramsey lectures, yeah, yeah, and now
they wake up and they go, you mean now I
can't have the dream of home ownership.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Somewhere between COVID and the inability to own a home,
someday crack the code and they're never going to get
it back.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
This is a special generation.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So the latest barnepole, which we don't give a lot
of weight to, we say, not so fast. The polling
reeks of a lot of errors, and it really reeks
of the biggest error, not what we're experientially seeing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
Previously on your morning show with Michael dil Choano.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
David and Ott.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
He got up early to help serve you, and we
can't have a conversation with you without your voice. So
use that talkback button on your iHeartRadio app, like this
listener did yesterday about David.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't think I've heard David get that riled up.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Ever, I first of all, I have seen him get
that riled up. I'll never forget if I can just
start with this story. I mean, you can't just crave
hard news all the time. So David's a better golfer.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Period.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
One day I beat him, and then I have a
radio show, So I got on the air, and you know, naturally,
when you play with somebody every day for a decade, lose, lose, lose, and.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Then one day you win. You know, it's exciting. So
I bragged about it on the air.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
The next time we played golf, I got there and
I'm really hug him, you know, and I notice he's
being cold.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Then we get in the cart, I know he's not
talking to me and he's just.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Got this look in his face and he pounded me
whole after all. After all, Yeah, you got a little
while the the the left narrative of these kids have immigrants,
they're gonna come home from school and their parents are
gonna be gone.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
David launches into a diaride the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Only reason they're gonna come home with their parents are
gone is because they're both having't worked to job to
pay for.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
All these illegal to which the listener called up and.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Said, I must say, I don't think I've heard David
get that riled up. Ever, it was one of my
favorite moments of the year. Good morning, have you calmed down?
Good morning, Michael, and you have just a slight slip there.
I wish we had been playing golf every day. No,
I don't play golf about once a month.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Whatever it was. I just noticed the next time we played,
you bounded me.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You know my old my old friend coach mackiw used
to say this was He would say z when you win,
say little, when you lose, say less.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, I haven't said anything since, so I guess I
learned that lesson. All right, there was a poll a
Barnepol yesterday and this isn't beat up on Barna. This
is conversation understanding. I have been one of the few
people and that's not to pat myself on the back.
I'd like to hear more people noticing this. And this
(02:06):
is purely experiential. If before my children were born, you
asked me, what's the number one goal, it would be
that they would see Jesus in me, and they would
know Christ as savior, and that they would find strength
better than me to make Him lord daily. That would
have been my goal. But I never really had to
impose or teach my faith. I watched my kids generation
(02:30):
born with a measure of faith. What do I mean
by a measure of faith. It's not a mental struggle
for them, it was a gift of faith.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
They grew up in faith.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
They spontaneously started having Bible studies among themselves.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Which are hilarious to listen to.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
But and I have been noticing that this generation, whether
it's rebellion, whether it's chosen measure of faith, I don't know.
But we have witnessed a cultural shift and reawakening, which
could be different than spiritual revival, but definitely culture shift.
(03:10):
And you just saw a political revolution. You just saw
decades of leftist worldview and ideology die right before your eyes.
And it came on gradually. But it left in one
fails swoop and it's gone, and David in his team
do Christmas in America. And I'll never forget the year
(03:30):
we did the Depression because the greatest takeaway for me
was you don't have the greatest generation unless they grow
up in the Depression. The product of the depression created
the men that liberated the world and fought a World War.
I think the offspring of a generation of oppression has
(03:54):
just given birth to a generation who's ready to liberate
America and return to its faith and values. So I'm
seeing all that, and then this poll pops up in
the nation under God, our relationship with God individually is deteriorating,
and I thought, well, that just doesn't match what I'm
(04:16):
seeing at all.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
David, you had a chance to go through the survey.
What did you find?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, Michael, first off, thanks for the opportunity and again
a little bit of credentials. Thanks for giving me the
credentials that you do and this opportunity on this program.
We've been at this for a long time, and part
of the journey that we've had as a public policy
organization for the last forty five years has been to
get inside what polling really is back in the day
(04:44):
when polls were actually being conducted by phone survey bases
with a sincere amount of collegiate science applied to the mechanism,
and people had landlines and they answered their phones because
they didn't know who was calling. The world of telephone
polls and the kind of survey mechanism, the signs they
are built on had some pretty good legitimacy if the
poll was corrected or correctly assembled. But the reality is
(05:07):
whoever puts the poll together can get whatever results they
want based upon how they create their sample, how many
people they talk to, the questions that they asked, the
questions that they don't, the language that they use in
the question, how much time they spend, the people they
employed to ask the questions. There are a tremendous amount
of details. That's why posters made so much money because
it was really hard to do, and they were dedicated
to people who.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Wanted to know. Pay big money and I learned all
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Now, when you can't achieve sample sizing, which they can't
because nobody's landlines anymore and they can't find people to respond, well,
it's no different than when COVID started and we were
looking at all the assumptions in some of these models
that said such and such million would die by easter.
Well it was completely an accurate because what are you
putting in that model? That's what they do with polling
every day. Well, then you just brought up the ultimate bias,
(05:52):
which is how you asked the question.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and what the actual words are.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
So these things are so if we're going to be
critical of polling in general, we're going to be particularly
critical of polling law that is manipulated, then everybody ought
to have a chance to be reviewed. And so when
I reviewed this barnupiece doctor George Barne, and he's pretty
famous among the National Religious Religious Broadcasters crew, pretty famous
(06:18):
among the church folks. I mean, he gets preached into
a lot of sermons, right. Therefore, he manages to sell
a lot of books because he does polls and then
writes books about his polls. And it's kind of always
the idea of I know something you don't know, well,
he might do it, he might manage it. However, when
you look at the details on this, it doesn't add up.
(06:39):
Number One, we don't he doesn't say to us, even
at second and third level, research. Did he talk to
people on the landlines, did he talk to people on
cell phones?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Did he talk to people? All we know is that.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
There's this group that he refers to that has a
database of people that they pull always say what's that?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And that sounds more like a focus group.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
It sounds like an online survey, right of twenty one
hundred people. And then you look at the kind of
questions that they ask and it's all church talk, right,
So people don't respond able to church talk if they
don't hang around a church a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Can I give you a great example.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Sure, So we took a tour of another university for
Nick proud to say, where my two of my kids go.
It's a great university. They did a little survey to
me after our visit, wanting to always improve how they
do visits. And one of the questions was just all
of this gobbly gok woke speak, and this from a
(07:38):
university that shouldn't be in the gobbly gook you know,
word speech business. And I said, well, I don't respond
well to all those woke words, but I will tell
you this. The person that gave the tour was knowledgeable,
thorough and we felt very welcomed.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
It was simply I.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Wasn't interested in do the university express its inclusiveness and
this and all this other? No, so, but do the
reverse of that for a poll like this. So now
you're talking to the American people using church lingo that
they don't respond to. It makes it feel like they're
less responsive to God. No, they're less responsive to your
cultural God speak, not God right, And the way that.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You ask the question, I mean, first off, there's a
passage in the scripture that goes the whole way back
to King David and even farther than that, and is
that God knows what's in everybody's heart.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
God alone knows what's in people's hearts. You know, it's
your preyer before you speak it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, that was the one that advantage that Jesus had
when he was here, as a scripture says, he always
knew what was in the heart of the person he
was talking to. He had the inside polling data on
everybody that he was in confrontation with. So here you're
asking questions that are very difficult to interpret, and there's
a lot of adverbs and adjectives describing the results merely severely.
(08:50):
I mean all these kinds of words that you always
you know, dug gone when you watch the adverbs, Okay,
because the adverbs tell you it's to tell it's overstated.
For certainly, I mean, is this one just sixteen percent
say God is the most important element of their life. Well,
first off, I would say no to that question, because
(09:11):
God's not an element.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Okay, I mean, because like, let's say, all right, I'm
just I'm helping you now, I'm not going to interrupt,
But my marriage on earth would be one of the
most important things, not cars, not homes, not income, my marriage,
the covenant marriage with my wife, then my children, and
my wife comes before my children because I can never
love my kids more than I love their mother. But
(09:35):
that's all in my relationship with God. That's all fruits
of my relationship with God. So to differentiate that is
really not even good theology.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Right, Well, can I give you another example, knowing you're
not interrupting at all, jump wherever you want. Fewer than
one third, thirty one percent believe that God is actively.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Involved in every moment of their life.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Excuse me if we live in a country where thirty
one percent of the people believe God is actively involved
in every moment of their life.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
What's the second category, most moments of my life?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, by now we certainly have over sixty percent or
now and then, Okay, I mean think about the way
the questions are structured.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I mean, at the end of the day, it sounds
like I don't I just look, it doesn't make a
lot of sense to me.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Let's go back to what you started with, okay, which
is the fact that we have a generation that has
watched their adults exceed in the abuses of drugs, sex, alcohol, entertainment,
social media, et cetera, et cetera. They've watched a country
that's bankrupted their families, forced their parents to work two jobs.
(10:43):
Some of those cases created divorces in the household and
the family. They've come to the end of themselves. They
can't survive on a perfection culture. They know we're facing
a national debt that means they'll never pay less taxes
than they pay right now. They've come to the end
of the road, and they're sick of it, and they're
looking up for answers.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I look back in horror.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
When I watched Jade Bance's movie, I thought to myself,
you thought that was dysfunctional.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You should have grown up in my house.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
But I look back haunted by had I grown up
in a family that had it all together, two parents
like the Brady's, strong in faith, going to Sunday school,
going to Wednesday Night, saying, I don't know that I
would have responded to the Gospel the way I did,
coming from complete destruction, coming from complete disruption, coming from
(11:37):
complete dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And then I saw the gospel.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Why would it be any different for our unborn, our
newly born children. They were born into a world of
the consequences of conformity, and they were just born with
a seed of transformation in them. Or, as we've talked
about in the past two if you're going to rebel
against parents that you know the minute you dressed like
a girl on Halloween they want to nip you, you're.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Going to go far right.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's the only lane for rebellion is to go a
traditional conservative and right.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
You add what they experienced in COVID, Oh, that was
as draw one across the whole culture, including their world,
and how the government that they didn't even give two
thoughts about six months prior to that, was suddenly saying
no problem for you, No football games for you. We
got women in the Midwest being tased by school security
guards because they won't put on a mask at a
(12:28):
junior high school football game, and they're dragging the person
off the jail.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They saw all this stuff. They're not blind.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
How about the four generations that created thirty five trillion
dollars of debt not awakening and this generation taking one
now living them. Dave Ramsey lectures, yeah, yeah, and now
they wake up and they go, you mean now I
can't have the dream of home ownership.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Somewhere between COVID and the inability to own a home,
someday crack the code and they're never going to get
it back.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
This is a special generation.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So the latest barnepole, which we don't give a lot
of weight to, we say, not so fast. The polling
reeks of a lot of errors, and it really reeks
of the biggest error, not what we're experientially seeing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Miss a little, miss a lot, miss a lot, and
we'll miss you. It's your Morning Show with Michael del Churno.
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