How is Iran responding to the weekend attacks? What is the reaction on Capitol Hill? National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL has the latest.
Senior Contributor David Zanotti joins us to put into perspective the US military action in Iran. If everyone agrees Iran can’t be allowed to have nukes, why was this airstrike so politically polarizing? Further, why is it necessary to stand by Israel??
Is the President’s taking out Iran’s nuke weapons capability an Israel-first or America-first order??
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All so is red. We'll get some of my perspectives
from our senior contributor David Sanadi in just a few
moments to put into perspective the military action in Iran.
(00:57):
I mean, if everyone is agreed and agreed for decades
upon decad they can't be allowed to have nukes. Why
is this so politically polarizing. More on that coming up.
Trump says the obliteration is an accurate term to describe
this weekend's air strikes of Iranian nuclear facilities. He will
meet with his national security team later this afternoon. Secretary
of State Mark or Rubio says the US is ready
(01:18):
to meet with Iran. Following the bombing of the three facilities.
The State Department has issued a worldwide caution security alert.
Roy O'Neil is our national correspondent. So now that the
air strike was more like a day, not two weeks,
and it's behind us, what's next is what's not everybody's mind,
reactions at home from enemy nations from around the world. Rory,
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How is Iran responding well?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
In so far? It hasn't been directed toward the US.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So far, there had been an exchange of missile strikes
from Iran and to Israel. Israel is attacking Tehran as
we speak right now, especially going after the IRGC headquarters,
and then maybe more strikes on that nuclear power plant
or that nuclear weapons development site that was targeted by
(02:05):
those bunker busters over the weekend. Israel looks to be
attacking that four dough plant all over again. So again
it's all developing right now. We'll see what the results
of that are. But we are still just waiting and
to see how Iran will respond. Will there be some
sort of a cyber attack or a ballistic attack against
the US or involve the straight upore.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Moves, so cyber, oil, sleep or cell that's probably the
three most likely, right, And then I would just add,
you know, ballistic strike on American military in the region. Yeah,
and then we there was some video and I never
got the chance to see how accurate was the brag
was this is happening in Iran right now? And it
(02:47):
was showing a missile coming out of four dough Could
that be real? And that's why they further went back
and hit some targets.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I just I don't know enough to answer to.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Be honest, all right, So hm, well, whatever did happen?
Happened from years of you know, defiance, and whatever happens
next will be response to having this nuclear capability taken away? Well, right,
And the fact now that the proxy groups that Iran
has relied on for and funded for so many years,
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the fact that those proxy groups are also so weakened
right now is also a significant factor here. You know,
it has be Lot had thousands of rockets, but then
after that Beeper or page Er attack that really took
out that terror cell, and the US has been going
after the uties in Yemen for months now, and of
course Hamas has been decimated after the Israel's attacks into Gaza.
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So the fact that these three main proxy groups are
also so weakened sort of emboldens Israel here to bring
the US along for these actions in Iran. I think
I see what the partisan narrative response is going to be.
But what has been the reaction here at home? It
largely goes along party lines. I think there's but even
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some division among the Trump supporters of the Marjorie Taylor
Greens of the world, the Tucker Carlson's that don't want
any more foreign involvement by the US in foreign wars.
That's been one large contingent, and that's also part of
the reason I think President Trump has been saying, look,
you know, we're sort of one and done.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
If Iran wants to come to the table, we can
be finished with all this, so, you know, and then
other Republicans, the House Speaker, the Senate leader of Secretary
of Saint Rubio, of course, all supporting the president's actions.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Here, roy O'Neil, great reporting as always, I'll be back
in the third hour. We'll discuss more. Also, we have
a new piece of polling that shows something that's been
an ongoing trend that we've been seeing a lot, this
young gen Z generation. They're different and they're actually quite conservative.
(04:58):
Rory's going to have that. I mean, again, if this
was the only poll, it would just be a statement.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is persistently and consistently what we found in the
exit polling of a presidential election, and what we're seeing
from a spiritual standpoint, from a political standpoint, and from
a cultural standpoint, persistently and consistently every time these gen
zs are polled.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
David's and not.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He's joining us to talk primarily about the events of
this weekend. But David, this is a generation whose life
was impacted by COVID in a way no other generations was.
This is a generation that had to go to school
every day where the focus was not education, it was
socialization and indoctrination. And they and they had all of
(05:48):
their senses challenged. You mean, we're not little boys and
little girls. Some people are animals, some people don't know.
Some people could be one one day.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What these things too far.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
In COVID and maybe a whole lot of God who's yesterday,
today and forever, has a very special generation growing up
right before us. These gen zers, they are different. Good morning, Michael,
Good morning. Oh what a what a crazy weekend? Huh yeah,
it was pretty uh well, you know, I said on Friday,
if the President's saying I'm going to take two weeks
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to think about it, that was pretty obvious it was coming.
But you know, I kind of started with the Precision
seven B two bombers. And that's not even including the
decoys that went over the Pacific. Not two bunker busters,
fourteen GBU fifty seven's the mission leaving from Missouri, refueling
(06:42):
throughout decoys, zero leaks, one hundred and twenty five aircraft
participating in this precise mission was seventy five precision guided missiles,
not a single leak. I mean, you compare that to
people hanging off planes in Afghanistan, it's pretty remarkable. It's
kind of like the border. I guess we really didn't
need a new military. We just need a new commander
(07:03):
in chief.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, it's interesting you bring up Afghanistan because that does
take us into the very strange footage that we heard
just a little bit ago from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah that was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, yeah, it's but again, that's the matrix. That's not
opposition politic I mean, that's I don't know. I guess
they can't figure out what's good, what's evil, who's the enemy?
Whose friend that united? I said fifteen twenty years ago, David,
I think it's politically incorrect for many Americans to be patriotic,
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and boy that was an example.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But you know, and the cheer of no more Wars,
No more Wars, No more Wars.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
The quintessential naivete right of a generation that thinks by
just wishing, you can make it so. And fundamentally, this
entire conversation is a conversation about reality. Do we live
in a world that has fallen, that is marred by
human imperfection and by the fact that there are bad
players in the world and a force called evil? Or
is everything the way Bernie Sanders, however, he woke up
(08:11):
and invents it his online this morning.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The rich is evil. I mean, he's standing there before
an stop oligarchy sign, and he doesn't see the threat,
the ancient threat of violent Islam and their ambitions and
what they've done and what they would do with a
weapon of greater destruction. It's it's a room full of
very I mean, I sit here and I think.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of John F.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Kennedy, you know, and boy, he went through it. I
mean he inherited i Ike's thing, and he's stuck to
his character. I'm not coming in with their support. And
he did. And a lot of people were captured and
died on that beach. So he had the Bay of Pigs.
Then he went into the Cuban missile crisis. And then
some reporters says, what's the biggest difference in presidencent. Well,
nothing comes in this room unless it's an impossible to
(08:56):
solve problem, all right. So I mean it's like, can
everybody take a see breadth. I can play you clips
of Hillary Clinton. I can play you clips of Barack
Obama all saying what we should do. They didn't have
the courage to do it. The President made the tough decision.
You could obviously second guess it, but it was done
with great precision and really Frankly, whatever happens next is
not Iran, not the president. But you know from watching
(09:18):
Bernie and others in the media, they're just waiting for
something to go wrong to hang it on Trump. It's
a shameful, obstructive divide in America that is far more
dangerous within than anything from without, especially after these bombings. Well,
and this is and I'm not a warhawk by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, thank you for bringing that part up too, because
I think that's it's significant. We hear the criticism that
people that are supporting the president are nothing but cheerleaders.
Right now, then that comes from people that that claim
to be the most intimate consultants of the president. And
that's one. Steve Bennett, I mean, Steve Bannnet is on
(10:00):
a rampage. He recently appeared before at a breakfast at
the Christian Science Monitor and was relentless in his criticism
of anyone who was cheerleading the next step in regards
to Iran. In one sense, there's a question that's that's fascinating.
The Israelis don't lack for commitment, nor do they lack
(10:22):
revenue or this is their fight. Why is it the
United States has proprietary technology on a bunker buster and
Israel doesn't have it. That's find that kind of mystifying
to me. It's certainly not a lack of that's dard.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
If you do, Dard, if you don't, because if you
gave it to him, they'd say, Israe don't have anything,
less we give it to him. How do you think
they got so strong? That's a Bill Maher argument.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, but a degree to a degree so that it's
not absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But I think, David, that's a point of contention. I
think the answer is both. But and this has been
coordinated from the beginning. We took out the who Thi's
they took out Hamas why because Hamas is a proxy
of Iran and they invaded Israel. Everybody forgets that thatt
like it didn't even happen in any of these decisions
that have been made. And what they would do if
the next time they invaded had a nuclear weapon in
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their dispos at their disposal. Nobody even thinks about any
of that. But did the President of the United States,
Donald Trump do this just to help bb net and
Yahoo stay in power, Because that's a big narrative from
the left. He just wants war because that keeps him
in power. Really, I mean, how laughable is that? But no,
I think Donald Trump did this to support an ally
who's very grateful, and an ally who's very grateful because
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he knows a lot of presidents have said this but
not followed through. And I think he did it to
protect us because he knows, first come Saturday, then comes Sunday.
First Israel than America. It was a tough decision. Nobody
seems to appreciate tough decisions anymore. It was a precision mission,
midnight hammer and very successful. And whatever is next is
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on the same person that made it so the first time,
and that's I Ronnie leadership. Now here's an argument that
would be advanced today and that as well. Now you've
got to deal with them responding and what they could
do with oil. And by the way, if they take
out the oil and the straight of horror moves, China
gets fifty percent of their oil from there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Now you got China involved.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Now did you hear what the former president of Russia said,
We'll give them the missile heads, we'll replace their nuclear program. See,
this is going to create world war. And of course
here you have the United States thing, we're still ready
to talk, and then everybody would say, well, they'll never talk.
They'd rather die martyrs than cave, which is exactly why
you can't let them.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Have an ouke. Well, we fortunately we have a little
bit of time. Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I would like to just go to the core
of what people are trying to come up with, is
the rationalization for this kind of activity. Somewhere along the line,
you've got to come to the ethical and moral questions
and the idea of the United States getting involved in
foreign entanglements that the affairs of other countries is something
that George Washington warned us about, that we have to
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be very careful about these things and we should avoid them.
That fundamentally, we don't need to fight the world's wars.
This goes back to George Washington's farewell address. The first
President of the United States warned is about it. Well,
there's two there's two ways to look at that.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Are we at war with Iran? Right now? Did we
declare war against Iran? No, we did a strike to
take where war with their As the Vice President said,
we're at war with their nuclear capabilities. Can you get
away with that, the other question is here at home,
what does this unique decision due to this very unique
coalition that Donald Trump has had. You didn't bring up Tucker,
(13:38):
but Tucker Carlson along with Bannon and others are leading
the fans fanning the flames of this. So and who
knows where Tulsea Gabbard stands on all of this. So
what becomes of the unity and the Republican Party and
the unique coalition of trump Ism, and what is the
origins of this threat? And how do we reconcile these
types of actions with the foreign entanglement that Washington. When
(14:00):
your morning show continues, did I recap that?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Okay, it's your Morning show with Michael Dell Chorno. Hey,
good morning, Michael.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
It's ironic that the media helped in this disinformation campaign
because they wouldn't stop blabbing about military things all already
right up until actually they're still doing it. They're not
privy to the mission, they shouldn't be blabbing. And Israel
doesn't have a platform to deliver that type of bomb
just yet. So that's why they didn't have the bunker buster.
(14:29):
In fact, that's because it's probably cost a small fortune
to make them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So I was on acces this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Had I read somebody complain that midnight hammer wasn't lie
because it happened at two am. The lessons just done.
Uh yeah, very serious decisions, very precise missions carried out,
very unserious people at home trying to understand it. I
did get this at Michael di at iHeartMedia dot com.
(14:55):
Your calm words have confirmed for me. The President Trump
made a tough decision, but an unavoidable call. Again, I'm
so grateful to have a true leader that does not
let political pressures affect the decision making. We had a
spokesperson for the Obama administration second guessing if Kamala Harris
would have even had the courage to make this decision.
How are you able to stay up late on a
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of experience. The Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champions, winning
last night one oh three ninety one over the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Let me tell you something, why do I love this team?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Well, of course I lived in Oklahoma twenty years, so
that explains being a fan. And by the way, I
also to add to that, and Tulsa was our very
first affiliate and Oklahoma City was our second. So some
your morning show loyalty as well to my Indiana listeners.
But it's really this whole franchise, the coaching staff, and
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Speaker 2 (16:19):
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your voice be heard. President Trump's says the obliteration is
the accurate term to describe this weekends air strikes on
the Iranian nuclear facilities. The President will meet with his
national security team today. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says
the US is ready.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
To meet with Iran.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The Department has also issued state worldwide caution security alerts,
and there are expectations of oil prices to rise. There's
some people kind of looking over what a former president
of Russia has said, what China might be thinking with
the straight of Hormuz in question, what will Iran do?
Probably oil, probably sleeper sells, potentially some strikes on military
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locations in the region.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Just don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Whatever they do, the President has promised a response, so
it begs this question first and foremost, and we got
to do this invites there are a lot of people.
I don't want to single anybody out, Tucker Carlson Bannon,
there are a lot of people. This unique, very unique
coalition that Donald Trump has assembled with Democrat presidential candidates
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like Telsea Gabbard and RFK Junior as well as others.
Where is that delicate balance?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Where's the unity in the party. We're going to get
to that. But one of the big things that's separating
or threatening that is this question of this isn't our war?
And that's why I said the most important question to
answer for today is was that war or was that
an airstrike?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Was that war?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Or was that a significant contribution to a battle on
behalf of ourselves and a key ally? But I think David,
I want to throw it to you with this for
all those of you listening that maybe like Tucker or others,
are concerned this isn't our war, You're right, we would
be the first two acknowledge that. In fact, I just sat.
(18:52):
You know, it's bad enough. I have three blown out
discs and I look like Nita Meyer an animal house
with this ice pack on my neck, and you guys
are going at it and added and it was I
wish the listeners could have heard you two going back
and forth between what is a great point or a
great argument versus irrelevant before a court in terms of
(19:13):
the powers. But let's start first and foremost, this isn't
our war, you'd agree, I agree, well.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Then the question instantly comes back to somebody defined the
word war, because it seems to me like when you're
sending bombers and blowing things up.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That looks pretty warlike for me and to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But it's not a declaration of war against the regime
of Iran. It's not a declaration of war against the
people of Iran. It is what would be defined in
the last thirty years of practice as a policing action,
so to speak, a necessary emergency action in regards to
protecting the national interests of the United States of America. Now,
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so this would be argued out in court. The War
Powers Act, passed in nineteen seventy three, was designed to
prevent another Vietnam, another police action that we all knew
was a war that no one had the courage to
call it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
That if there's a regime change in Iran, that's up
to the Iranian people. The goal of the mission was
to cripple their ability to have a weapon of mass destruction,
not to topple the regime. And the precision of the
strikes back up that intent and word, but it's still
in court.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And the War Powers Act from nineteen seventy three has
been ignored by Congress and I think at least fourteen
instances or rallied by Congress or certain members of Congress
at other instances. So that's a whole other subject. It's
worth debate, it's worth discussing, and fundamentally, while the commander
in chief is the first responsibility to find in the
presidency in Article two, we have to remember Article two
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is like got three pages.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's a very small president doesn't have a lot of
things to do.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There's about nine different responsibilities assigned to the executive branch.
Giver or take on how you you know, parshed the sentences.
But Congress is the lion's share here. And the fundamental
concept of the Constitution is that the United States does
not go to war without the consent of the government
through the people's House and Senate.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's always been the way we've done.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It goes back to the beginning of the time of America.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
However, let's go back farther than that. The reason that
this is not our war.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So four decades isn't enough to chew on. You want
to go four thousand years.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Two thousand years. This is not our war.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And and anyone who says that out loud, whether they
even have the remotest understanding of what they're speaking about,
is correct in this sense. America wasn't around when Abraham
had two sons and those two sons became warring nations
four thousand years ago, and it's not changed since.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
This is a deeply Middle.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Eastern Semitic problem among the people who came forth as
the progeny of Abraham.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because one son went on to form and another son
went on to form, and they're still fighting today.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They're still fighting today.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This goes deep into as deep as the DNA of
a culture can go. This conflict has been there. This
is America has nothing to do with that conflict. And America,
we can pray for all the people in the conflict.
We can pray for resolution, we can pray for peace.
We can try to do everything we can to respect
the people of the globe, as they all deserve respect
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because they're.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
All made by God and in His image.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But we're not going to resolve this particular battle because
it's been around for a long long time. Israel and
the balance of the Middle East are going to have
to settle their own issues now. Michael I wrote my
first paper on paper on Israel fifty years ago is Zionism,
racism and a college course. I can remember it God,
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And that's the fundamental question. Do you want resolution two
four two?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Did you use did you use Twitter as your research source?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Go ahead? It was a great online project. Note cards,
but written note cards. That's where it all starts.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So what ends up happening is there are a number
of Arabic nations that have been against the existence of
Israel since Israel began as a modern nation. They absolutely
refuse to recognize the right of This has been very
difficult for the West to follow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Like the West would look and go, Israel so small,
what what's that about? They're surrounded by Why are they
so obsessed with this little piece of land? Who would care? Well,
that's the four thousand year answer.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And because coming out of nineteen forty eight, it's the
only piece of land they felt they could survive on
after the Holocaust and after they were abandoned by so many,
by so many. So this is a very dramatic, it
is a very real It is a story filled and
fraught with endless suffering, and we are observers and commentators
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at best, and hopefully prayers over all of this. Now,
you would hope that that ancient con doesn't blow the
world up. And that gets us back now to the
responsibility of an America that understands the difference between national interests,
global interests, and foreign entanglements. This is an argument that's
been going on in our country since the beginning in
George Washington warned us about it. So it's okay to
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have strong language, to have loud voices, to have real
concerns and questions about this.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And I'm going to rebuke myself before I say it.
It isn't always black and white. In other words, you
know'st I love Tucker Carlson, all right, I personally love him.
I disagree with him on this because I think I
could show you the same Tucker Carlson thirteen years ago
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saying we should do exactly what he is cursing. We
just did, all right, So you know, but it's not
always black and white, And there's nuances to all of this,
and there are no short conversations. These are going to
be the three most frustrating things I think for America
to understand the moment, because.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You just brought it up. Is this war?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I don't think so. Could it lead to war? Yes,
and I take that very serious. It could lead to
World war. It could lead to you know, wars rarely
end where they begin and with the same players they
begin with, so you never take it lightly.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But is this war?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is this you know, entanglement or you know, is this
fighting someone else's or or just a strike and a battle.
I mean, there are three different subjects that are often
had at the same time, and that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And if you're into this for political power, that's a problem. Now,
please understand that I am not interested in currying the
favor of the progressive left and the socialist Party in America.
I support what the president did and I think the
action that he took was right. I think that Hillary Clinton,
had she become president, would have faced the same decision.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Actually, I think Hillary would have done it, I think,
and she is a rock said it and didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We have Obama.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, and Obama's aid saying and I don't think anybody
thinks gomel Aerus would have well.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And not only did Obama not do it wasn't this
the president that sent an airplane full.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Of tour to a big cash as if Dave Ramsey
would say King was king.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So a plane full of it to a round.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So this has been on the table for a significant
period of time. So if the commander in chief sees
a clear and present danger, a real threat in a circumstance,
and acts upon it, does that necessarily mean it is
an active war that requires an Act of Congress. It
certainly requires the the the involvement of Congress, the advice
of Congress.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And it's crystal clear that the White House.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Had an in fact attempt to communicate with members of
Congress and committees, et cetera, that this was going on.
And for those people who are exercised about the War
Powers Act, Congress can pass a resolution today approving or
or disapproving of what the President just did. They can
come back session right now and say this was wrong.
We require the War Powers Act. Farder, where are they all?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The big talk? Bernie, where are you?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Let's all if that's what you're convinced, we well, AOC
is calling for impeachment.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
AOC is calling for impeachment, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So that's the point, Michael, it's not about impeachment. You've
got to pass a resolution that you disagree, and you
contend that the president can go no farther without the
consult of consent of Congress. Okay, fine, if you went
too far, show up and act in a constitutional measure
to your job.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like right now, we're talking to break.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
The problem with this do nothing Congress is they only
get involved when it serves their political purposes.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That's all I see it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Consisting David s and a he's our senior contributories, also
the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable and host to
the publics where we're gonna get other military perspectives later.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
In the show.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Was this airstrike necessary to address the four thousand year
war or the four decade.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Failure question? Excellent question.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
The four thousand year war, we can't solve what's been
going on in America for the last fifty years, going
back to the takeover of the embassy and the Carter administration.
Is the Muslim state of Iran has declared to their
children it's in their very dna, it's in the milk
that their babies drink, the idea that it's death to Israel.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
To the United States.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Now, when this is the mantra of a nation that
is also in the process of building nuclear weapons, at
what point in time do you proactively strike before they do,
of chase? The other answer is is let them have
the weapon, let them blow up some people, and then
say gee, we should have we should have.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That begs this final question, which is the president making
this very difficult decision. Was this to do what they
had to do to prop up bb NETNA, who needs
this war to stay in power all these leftist narratives,
or was this first and foremost to protect the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Ultimately, the Prime Minister of Israel's too old for these games.
That's he wants that threat off his block.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, we've covered four thousand years in the last four decades.
Bottom line is the highlight would be many have said,
none have acted. Donald Trump is said, and Donald Trump
has acted. We got here based on four thousand years
and four decades of doing nothing. One president who promised
and became president and didn't was Barack Obama. And think
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of his plane full of cash, Think of Joe Biden's
plane and all of the Afghan betrayed people on the
ground hanging out of the wings as it's taken off.
Donald Trump sent seven B two bombers, one hundred and
twenty five aircraft in all, seventy five precision guided missiles,
fourteen bunker busters. That's the difference in presidency. And of
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course you bring up it all begins with Jimmy Carter
meddling with the Shaw, which created regime change in an
overthrow and the birth of the Islamic radical.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Iranian nation.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And then whatever happens next is really in the hands
of the same Iatola who has taken the actions that
created the bombing.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So uh than that, can you think of a perspective?
We're missing four thousand years in less than forty minutes. Oh,
I know, it's morning show.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All I know is C five, C six, and C
seven sunk my battleship.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Put enough at my discs. Your morning show is my
morning show. My morning show is your morning show.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
David Zanatti or senior contributor at a senior moment, Thank
you so much, appreciate your analysis. This is your morning
show with Michael del Chrono.
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You're just waking up.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The US Ambassador to the UN on Sunday defended the
airstrikes on Iran. Mark Mayfield has the details.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
At the Security Council meeting Dorothy Camille. She said, for
forty years, the Iranian government has called for death to
America and death to Israel, impose a constant menace to
the peace and security of its neighbors, the United States,
and the entire world. The time finally came for the
United States to act decisively. Sharing also warned Iran against retaliation.
She said any running attack direct or indirect against Americans
(31:05):
or American bases will be met with devastating retaliation. The
Amessador also urged the UN to call for Iran to
terminate to strive for nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The Pentagon says the operation, nicknamed Operation Midnight Hammer, was
the largest P two bomber strike in US history.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Iran's nuclear ambitions have been obliterated.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth calls President Trump's decision to hit
the three Armanian nuclear facilities, including the four to five
four DOH facility, bold and brilliant. Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kain said the destruction to
the facilities was substantial.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle
damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe
damage and destruction.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Kaine says the US maintained an element of surprise and
that not one of Iran's fighter jets took to the air.
He also warned Iran not to retaliate against the US forces.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm Scott Carr in Washington, China speaking out against the
US military action in Iran, which President Trump confirmed on Saturday,
saying three of Iranian nuclear facilities have been struck. Rebecca
Bundon has more.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
China's UN ambassador Fu Kong, according to the state broadcaster CCTV,
said that the credibility of the US had been damaged
as a country and as a participant in any international negotiations. Beijing,
in a statement on Sunday, said that Washington's actions have
exacerbated tensions in the Middle East and it is calling
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for a ceasefire to be reached as soon as possible. Meanwhile,
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, in comments to Fox News,
said he was urging China to encourage Iran not to
shut the Strait of Homers. It is an important global
root for crude oil, which China depends on heavily for
its supplies. Rebecca Bundon, Hong Kong.
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All so is red. We'll get some of my perspectives
from our senior contributor David Sanadi in just a few
moments to put into perspective the military action in Iran.
(00:57):
I mean, if everyone is agreed and agreed for decades
upon decad they can't be allowed to have nukes. Why
is this so politically polarizing. More on that coming up.
Trump says the obliteration is an accurate term to describe
this weekend's air strikes of Iranian nuclear facilities. He will
meet with his national security team later this afternoon. Secretary
of State Mark or Rubio says the US is ready
(01:18):
to meet with Iran. Following the bombing of the three facilities.
The State Department has issued a worldwide caution security alert.
Roy O'Neil is our national correspondent. So now that the
air strike was more like a day, not two weeks,
and it's behind us, what's next is what's not everybody's mind,
reactions at home from enemy nations from around the world. Rory,
(01:39):
How is Iran responding well?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
In so far? It hasn't been directed toward the US.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
So far, there had been an exchange of missile strikes
from Iran and to Israel. Israel is attacking Tehran as
we speak right now, especially going after the IRGC headquarters,
and then maybe more strikes on that nuclear power plant
or that nuclear weapons development site that was targeted by
(02:05):
those bunker busters over the weekend. Israel looks to be
attacking that four dough plant all over again. So again
it's all developing right now. We'll see what the results
of that are. But we are still just waiting and
to see how Iran will respond. Will there be some
sort of a cyber attack or a ballistic attack against
the US or involve the straight upore.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Moves, so cyber, oil, sleep or cell that's probably the
three most likely, right, And then I would just add,
you know, ballistic strike on American military in the region. Yeah,
and then we there was some video and I never
got the chance to see how accurate was the brag
was this is happening in Iran right now? And it
(02:47):
was showing a missile coming out of four dough Could
that be real? And that's why they further went back
and hit some targets.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I just I don't know enough to answer to.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Be honest, all right, So hm, well, whatever did happen?
Happened from years of you know, defiance, and whatever happens
next will be response to having this nuclear capability taken away? Well, right,
And the fact now that the proxy groups that Iran
has relied on for and funded for so many years,
(03:22):
the fact that those proxy groups are also so weakened
right now is also a significant factor here. You know,
it has be Lot had thousands of rockets, but then
after that Beeper or page Er attack that really took
out that terror cell, and the US has been going
after the uties in Yemen for months now, and of
course Hamas has been decimated after the Israel's attacks into Gaza.
(03:45):
So the fact that these three main proxy groups are
also so weakened sort of emboldens Israel here to bring
the US along for these actions in Iran. I think
I see what the partisan narrative response is going to be.
But what has been the reaction here at home? It
largely goes along party lines. I think there's but even
(04:07):
some division among the Trump supporters of the Marjorie Taylor
Greens of the world, the Tucker Carlson's that don't want
any more foreign involvement by the US in foreign wars.
That's been one large contingent, and that's also part of
the reason I think President Trump has been saying, look,
you know, we're sort of one and done.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
If Iran wants to come to the table, we can
be finished with all this, so, you know, and then
other Republicans, the House Speaker, the Senate leader of Secretary
of Saint Rubio, of course, all supporting the president's actions.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Here, roy O'Neil, great reporting as always, I'll be back
in the third hour. We'll discuss more. Also, we have
a new piece of polling that shows something that's been
an ongoing trend that we've been seeing a lot, this
young gen Z generation. They're different and they're actually quite conservative.
(04:58):
Rory's going to have that. I mean, again, if this
was the only poll, it would just be a statement.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
But it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is persistently and consistently what we found in the
exit polling of a presidential election, and what we're seeing
from a spiritual standpoint, from a political standpoint, and from
a cultural standpoint, persistently and consistently every time these gen
zs are polled.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
David's and not.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
He's joining us to talk primarily about the events of
this weekend. But David, this is a generation whose life
was impacted by COVID in a way no other generations was.
This is a generation that had to go to school
every day where the focus was not education, it was
socialization and indoctrination. And they and they had all of
(05:48):
their senses challenged. You mean, we're not little boys and
little girls. Some people are animals, some people don't know.
Some people could be one one day.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What these things too far.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
In COVID and maybe a whole lot of God who's yesterday,
today and forever, has a very special generation growing up
right before us. These gen zers, they are different. Good morning, Michael,
Good morning. Oh what a what a crazy weekend? Huh yeah,
it was pretty uh well, you know, I said on Friday,
if the President's saying I'm going to take two weeks
(06:22):
to think about it, that was pretty obvious it was coming.
But you know, I kind of started with the Precision
seven B two bombers. And that's not even including the
decoys that went over the Pacific. Not two bunker busters,
fourteen GBU fifty seven's the mission leaving from Missouri, refueling
(06:42):
throughout decoys, zero leaks, one hundred and twenty five aircraft
participating in this precise mission was seventy five precision guided missiles,
not a single leak. I mean, you compare that to
people hanging off planes in Afghanistan, it's pretty remarkable. It's
kind of like the border. I guess we really didn't
need a new military. We just need a new commander
(07:03):
in chief.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, it's interesting you bring up Afghanistan because that does
take us into the very strange footage that we heard
just a little bit ago from Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah that was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, yeah, it's but again, that's the matrix. That's not
opposition politic I mean, that's I don't know. I guess
they can't figure out what's good, what's evil, who's the enemy?
Whose friend that united? I said fifteen twenty years ago, David,
I think it's politically incorrect for many Americans to be patriotic,
(07:41):
and boy that was an example.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But you know, and the cheer of no more Wars,
No more Wars, No more Wars.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
The quintessential naivete right of a generation that thinks by
just wishing, you can make it so. And fundamentally, this
entire conversation is a conversation about reality. Do we live
in a world that has fallen, that is marred by
human imperfection and by the fact that there are bad
players in the world and a force called evil? Or
is everything the way Bernie Sanders, however, he woke up
(08:11):
and invents it his online this morning.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The rich is evil. I mean, he's standing there before
an stop oligarchy sign, and he doesn't see the threat,
the ancient threat of violent Islam and their ambitions and
what they've done and what they would do with a
weapon of greater destruction. It's it's a room full of
very I mean, I sit here and I think.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of John F.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Kennedy, you know, and boy, he went through it. I
mean he inherited i Ike's thing, and he's stuck to
his character. I'm not coming in with their support. And
he did. And a lot of people were captured and
died on that beach. So he had the Bay of Pigs.
Then he went into the Cuban missile crisis. And then
some reporters says, what's the biggest difference in presidencent. Well,
nothing comes in this room unless it's an impossible to
(08:56):
solve problem, all right. So I mean it's like, can
everybody take a see breadth. I can play you clips
of Hillary Clinton. I can play you clips of Barack
Obama all saying what we should do. They didn't have
the courage to do it. The President made the tough decision.
You could obviously second guess it, but it was done
with great precision and really Frankly, whatever happens next is
not Iran, not the president. But you know from watching
(09:18):
Bernie and others in the media, they're just waiting for
something to go wrong to hang it on Trump. It's
a shameful, obstructive divide in America that is far more
dangerous within than anything from without, especially after these bombings. Well,
and this is and I'm not a warhawk by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, thank you for bringing that part up too, because
I think that's it's significant. We hear the criticism that
people that are supporting the president are nothing but cheerleaders.
Right now, then that comes from people that that claim
to be the most intimate consultants of the president. And
that's one. Steve Bennett, I mean, Steve Bannnet is on
(10:00):
a rampage. He recently appeared before at a breakfast at
the Christian Science Monitor and was relentless in his criticism
of anyone who was cheerleading the next step in regards
to Iran. In one sense, there's a question that's that's fascinating.
The Israelis don't lack for commitment, nor do they lack
(10:22):
revenue or this is their fight. Why is it the
United States has proprietary technology on a bunker buster and
Israel doesn't have it. That's find that kind of mystifying
to me. It's certainly not a lack of that's dard.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
If you do, Dard, if you don't, because if you
gave it to him, they'd say, Israe don't have anything,
less we give it to him. How do you think
they got so strong? That's a Bill Maher argument.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, but a degree to a degree so that it's
not absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
But I think, David, that's a point of contention. I
think the answer is both. But and this has been
coordinated from the beginning. We took out the who Thi's
they took out Hamas why because Hamas is a proxy
of Iran and they invaded Israel. Everybody forgets that thatt
like it didn't even happen in any of these decisions
that have been made. And what they would do if
the next time they invaded had a nuclear weapon in
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their dispos at their disposal. Nobody even thinks about any
of that. But did the President of the United States,
Donald Trump do this just to help bb net and
Yahoo stay in power, Because that's a big narrative from
the left. He just wants war because that keeps him
in power. Really, I mean, how laughable is that? But no,
I think Donald Trump did this to support an ally
who's very grateful, and an ally who's very grateful because
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he knows a lot of presidents have said this but
not followed through. And I think he did it to
protect us because he knows, first come Saturday, then comes Sunday.
First Israel than America. It was a tough decision. Nobody
seems to appreciate tough decisions anymore. It was a precision mission,
midnight hammer and very successful. And whatever is next is
(11:52):
on the same person that made it so the first time,
and that's I Ronnie leadership. Now here's an argument that
would be advanced today and that as well. Now you've
got to deal with them responding and what they could
do with oil. And by the way, if they take
out the oil and the straight of horror moves, China
gets fifty percent of their oil from there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Now you got China involved.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Now did you hear what the former president of Russia said,
We'll give them the missile heads, we'll replace their nuclear program. See,
this is going to create world war. And of course
here you have the United States thing, we're still ready
to talk, and then everybody would say, well, they'll never talk.
They'd rather die martyrs than cave, which is exactly why
you can't let them.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Have an ouke. Well, we fortunately we have a little
bit of time. Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
And I would like to just go to the core
of what people are trying to come up with, is
the rationalization for this kind of activity. Somewhere along the line,
you've got to come to the ethical and moral questions
and the idea of the United States getting involved in
foreign entanglements that the affairs of other countries is something
that George Washington warned us about, that we have to
(13:00):
be very careful about these things and we should avoid them.
That fundamentally, we don't need to fight the world's wars.
This goes back to George Washington's farewell address. The first
President of the United States warned is about it. Well,
there's two there's two ways to look at that.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Are we at war with Iran? Right now? Did we
declare war against Iran? No, we did a strike to
take where war with their As the Vice President said,
we're at war with their nuclear capabilities. Can you get
away with that, the other question is here at home,
what does this unique decision due to this very unique
coalition that Donald Trump has had. You didn't bring up Tucker,
(13:38):
but Tucker Carlson along with Bannon and others are leading
the fans fanning the flames of this. So and who
knows where Tulsea Gabbard stands on all of this. So
what becomes of the unity and the Republican Party and
the unique coalition of trump Ism, and what is the
origins of this threat? And how do we reconcile these
types of actions with the foreign entanglement that Washington. When
(14:00):
your morning show continues, did I recap that?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Okay, it's your Morning show with Michael Dell Chorno. Hey,
good morning, Michael.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
It's ironic that the media helped in this disinformation campaign
because they wouldn't stop blabbing about military things all already
right up until actually they're still doing it. They're not
privy to the mission, they shouldn't be blabbing. And Israel
doesn't have a platform to deliver that type of bomb
just yet. So that's why they didn't have the bunker buster.
(14:29):
In fact, that's because it's probably cost a small fortune
to make them.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So I was on acces this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Had I read somebody complain that midnight hammer wasn't lie
because it happened at two am. The lessons just done.
Uh yeah, very serious decisions, very precise missions carried out,
very unserious people at home trying to understand it. I
did get this at Michael di at iHeartMedia dot com.
(14:55):
Your calm words have confirmed for me. The President Trump
made a tough decision, but an unavoidable call. Again, I'm
so grateful to have a true leader that does not
let political pressures affect the decision making. We had a
spokesperson for the Obama administration second guessing if Kamala Harris
would have even had the courage to make this decision.
How are you able to stay up late on a
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your voice be heard. President Trump's says the obliteration is
the accurate term to describe this weekends air strikes on
the Iranian nuclear facilities. The President will meet with his
national security team today. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says
the US is ready.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
To meet with Iran.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The Department has also issued state worldwide caution security alerts,
and there are expectations of oil prices to rise. There's
some people kind of looking over what a former president
of Russia has said, what China might be thinking with
the straight of Hormuz in question, what will Iran do?
Probably oil, probably sleeper sells, potentially some strikes on military
(17:39):
locations in the region.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Just don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Whatever they do, the President has promised a response, so
it begs this question first and foremost, and we got
to do this invites there are a lot of people.
I don't want to single anybody out, Tucker Carlson Bannon,
there are a lot of people. This unique, very unique
coalition that Donald Trump has assembled with Democrat presidential candidates
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like Telsea Gabbard and RFK Junior as well as others.
Where is that delicate balance?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Where's the unity in the party. We're going to get
to that. But one of the big things that's separating
or threatening that is this question of this isn't our war?
And that's why I said the most important question to
answer for today is was that war or was that
an airstrike?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Was that war?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Or was that a significant contribution to a battle on
behalf of ourselves and a key ally? But I think David,
I want to throw it to you with this for
all those of you listening that maybe like Tucker or others,
are concerned this isn't our war, You're right, we would
be the first two acknowledge that. In fact, I just sat.
(18:52):
You know, it's bad enough. I have three blown out
discs and I look like Nita Meyer an animal house
with this ice pack on my neck, and you guys
are going at it and added and it was I
wish the listeners could have heard you two going back
and forth between what is a great point or a
great argument versus irrelevant before a court in terms of
(19:13):
the powers. But let's start first and foremost, this isn't
our war, you'd agree, I agree, well.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Then the question instantly comes back to somebody defined the
word war, because it seems to me like when you're
sending bombers and blowing things up.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That looks pretty warlike for me and to everybody else.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But it's not a declaration of war against the regime
of Iran. It's not a declaration of war against the
people of Iran. It is what would be defined in
the last thirty years of practice as a policing action,
so to speak, a necessary emergency action in regards to
protecting the national interests of the United States of America. Now,
(19:52):
so this would be argued out in court. The War
Powers Act, passed in nineteen seventy three, was designed to
prevent another Vietnam, another police action that we all knew
was a war that no one had the courage to
call it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
That if there's a regime change in Iran, that's up
to the Iranian people. The goal of the mission was
to cripple their ability to have a weapon of mass destruction,
not to topple the regime. And the precision of the
strikes back up that intent and word, but it's still
in court.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And the War Powers Act from nineteen seventy three has
been ignored by Congress and I think at least fourteen
instances or rallied by Congress or certain members of Congress
at other instances. So that's a whole other subject. It's
worth debate, it's worth discussing, and fundamentally, while the commander
in chief is the first responsibility to find in the
presidency in Article two, we have to remember Article two
(20:51):
is like got three pages.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's a very small president doesn't have a lot of
things to do.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
There's about nine different responsibilities assigned to the executive branch.
Giver or take on how you you know, parshed the sentences.
But Congress is the lion's share here. And the fundamental
concept of the Constitution is that the United States does
not go to war without the consent of the government
through the people's House and Senate.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
That's always been the way we've done.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
It goes back to the beginning of the time of America.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
However, let's go back farther than that. The reason that
this is not our war.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So four decades isn't enough to chew on. You want
to go four thousand years.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Two thousand years. This is not our war.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And and anyone who says that out loud, whether they
even have the remotest understanding of what they're speaking about,
is correct in this sense. America wasn't around when Abraham
had two sons and those two sons became warring nations
four thousand years ago, and it's not changed since.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
This is a deeply Middle.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Eastern Semitic problem among the people who came forth as
the progeny of Abraham.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Because one son went on to form and another son
went on to form, and they're still fighting today.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
They're still fighting today.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This goes deep into as deep as the DNA of
a culture can go. This conflict has been there. This
is America has nothing to do with that conflict. And America,
we can pray for all the people in the conflict.
We can pray for resolution, we can pray for peace.
We can try to do everything we can to respect
the people of the globe, as they all deserve respect
(22:25):
because they're.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
All made by God and in His image.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But we're not going to resolve this particular battle because
it's been around for a long long time. Israel and
the balance of the Middle East are going to have
to settle their own issues now. Michael I wrote my
first paper on paper on Israel fifty years ago is Zionism,
racism and a college course. I can remember it God,
(22:48):
And that's the fundamental question. Do you want resolution two
four two?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Did you use did you use Twitter as your research source?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Go ahead? It was a great online project. Note cards,
but written note cards. That's where it all starts.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So what ends up happening is there are a number
of Arabic nations that have been against the existence of
Israel since Israel began as a modern nation. They absolutely
refuse to recognize the right of This has been very
difficult for the West to follow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Like the West would look and go, Israel so small,
what what's that about? They're surrounded by Why are they
so obsessed with this little piece of land? Who would care? Well,
that's the four thousand year answer.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And because coming out of nineteen forty eight, it's the
only piece of land they felt they could survive on
after the Holocaust and after they were abandoned by so many,
by so many. So this is a very dramatic, it
is a very real It is a story filled and
fraught with endless suffering, and we are observers and commentators
(23:54):
at best, and hopefully prayers over all of this. Now,
you would hope that that ancient con doesn't blow the
world up. And that gets us back now to the
responsibility of an America that understands the difference between national interests,
global interests, and foreign entanglements. This is an argument that's
been going on in our country since the beginning in
George Washington warned us about it. So it's okay to
(24:17):
have strong language, to have loud voices, to have real
concerns and questions about this.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And I'm going to rebuke myself before I say it.
It isn't always black and white. In other words, you
know'st I love Tucker Carlson, all right, I personally love him.
I disagree with him on this because I think I
could show you the same Tucker Carlson thirteen years ago
(24:44):
saying we should do exactly what he is cursing. We
just did, all right, So you know, but it's not
always black and white, And there's nuances to all of this,
and there are no short conversations. These are going to
be the three most frustrating things I think for America
to understand the moment, because.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You just brought it up. Is this war?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I don't think so. Could it lead to war? Yes,
and I take that very serious. It could lead to
World war. It could lead to you know, wars rarely
end where they begin and with the same players they
begin with, so you never take it lightly.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
But is this war?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is this you know, entanglement or you know, is this
fighting someone else's or or just a strike and a battle.
I mean, there are three different subjects that are often
had at the same time, and that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
And if you're into this for political power, that's a problem. Now,
please understand that I am not interested in currying the
favor of the progressive left and the socialist Party in America.
I support what the president did and I think the
action that he took was right. I think that Hillary Clinton,
had she become president, would have faced the same decision.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Actually, I think Hillary would have done it, I think,
and she is a rock said it and didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
We have Obama.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, and Obama's aid saying and I don't think anybody
thinks gomel Aerus would have well.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And not only did Obama not do it wasn't this
the president that sent an airplane full.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Of tour to a big cash as if Dave Ramsey
would say King was king.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
So a plane full of it to a round.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
So this has been on the table for a significant
period of time. So if the commander in chief sees
a clear and present danger, a real threat in a circumstance,
and acts upon it, does that necessarily mean it is
an active war that requires an Act of Congress. It
certainly requires the the the involvement of Congress, the advice
of Congress.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And it's crystal clear that the White House.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Had an in fact attempt to communicate with members of
Congress and committees, et cetera, that this was going on.
And for those people who are exercised about the War
Powers Act, Congress can pass a resolution today approving or
or disapproving of what the President just did. They can
come back session right now and say this was wrong.
We require the War Powers Act. Farder, where are they all?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
The big talk? Bernie, where are you?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Let's all if that's what you're convinced, we well, AOC
is calling for impeachment.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
AOC is calling for impeachment, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
So that's the point, Michael, it's not about impeachment. You've
got to pass a resolution that you disagree, and you
contend that the president can go no farther without the
consult of consent of Congress. Okay, fine, if you went
too far, show up and act in a constitutional measure
to your job.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like right now, we're talking to break.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
The problem with this do nothing Congress is they only
get involved when it serves their political purposes.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
That's all I see it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Consisting David s and a he's our senior contributories, also
the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable and host to
the publics where we're gonna get other military perspectives later.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
In the show.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Was this airstrike necessary to address the four thousand year
war or the four decade.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Failure question? Excellent question.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
The four thousand year war, we can't solve what's been
going on in America for the last fifty years, going
back to the takeover of the embassy and the Carter administration.
Is the Muslim state of Iran has declared to their
children it's in their very dna, it's in the milk
that their babies drink, the idea that it's death to Israel.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
To the United States.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Now, when this is the mantra of a nation that
is also in the process of building nuclear weapons, at
what point in time do you proactively strike before they do,
of chase? The other answer is is let them have
the weapon, let them blow up some people, and then
say gee, we should have we should have.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That begs this final question, which is the president making
this very difficult decision. Was this to do what they
had to do to prop up bb NETNA, who needs
this war to stay in power all these leftist narratives,
or was this first and foremost to protect the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Ultimately, the Prime Minister of Israel's too old for these games.
That's he wants that threat off his block.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, we've covered four thousand years in the last four decades.
Bottom line is the highlight would be many have said,
none have acted. Donald Trump is said, and Donald Trump
has acted. We got here based on four thousand years
and four decades of doing nothing. One president who promised
and became president and didn't was Barack Obama. And think
(29:24):
of his plane full of cash, Think of Joe Biden's
plane and all of the Afghan betrayed people on the
ground hanging out of the wings as it's taken off.
Donald Trump sent seven B two bombers, one hundred and
twenty five aircraft in all, seventy five precision guided missiles,
fourteen bunker busters. That's the difference in presidency. And of
(29:47):
course you bring up it all begins with Jimmy Carter
meddling with the Shaw, which created regime change in an
overthrow and the birth of the Islamic radical.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Iranian nation.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And then whatever happens next is really in the hands
of the same Iatola who has taken the actions that
created the bombing.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So uh than that, can you think of a perspective?
We're missing four thousand years in less than forty minutes. Oh,
I know, it's morning show.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
All I know is C five, C six, and C
seven sunk my battleship.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Put enough at my discs. Your morning show is my
morning show. My morning show is your morning show.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
David Zanatti or senior contributor at a senior moment, Thank
you so much, appreciate your analysis. This is your morning
show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
You're just waking up.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The US Ambassador to the UN on Sunday defended the
airstrikes on Iran. Mark Mayfield has the details.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
At the Security Council meeting Dorothy Camille. She said, for
forty years, the Iranian government has called for death to
America and death to Israel, impose a constant menace to
the peace and security of its neighbors, the United States,
and the entire world. The time finally came for the
United States to act decisively. Sharing also warned Iran against retaliation.
She said any running attack direct or indirect against Americans
(31:05):
or American bases will be met with devastating retaliation. The
Amessador also urged the UN to call for Iran to
terminate to strive for nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
The Pentagon says the operation, nicknamed Operation Midnight Hammer, was
the largest P two bomber strike in US history.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Iran's nuclear ambitions have been obliterated.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth calls President Trump's decision to hit
the three Armanian nuclear facilities, including the four to five
four DOH facility, bold and brilliant. Chairman of the Joint
Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Kain said the destruction to
the facilities was substantial.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Final battle damage will take some time, but initial battle
damage assessments indicate that all three sites sustained extremely severe
damage and destruction.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Kaine says the US maintained an element of surprise and
that not one of Iran's fighter jets took to the air.
He also warned Iran not to retaliate against the US forces.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm Scott Carr in Washington, China speaking out against the
US military action in Iran, which President Trump confirmed on Saturday,
saying three of Iranian nuclear facilities have been struck. Rebecca
Bundon has more.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
China's UN ambassador Fu Kong, according to the state broadcaster CCTV,
said that the credibility of the US had been damaged
as a country and as a participant in any international negotiations. Beijing,
in a statement on Sunday, said that Washington's actions have
exacerbated tensions in the Middle East and it is calling
(32:32):
for a ceasefire to be reached as soon as possible. Meanwhile,
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio, in comments to Fox News,
said he was urging China to encourage Iran not to
shut the Strait of Homers. It is an important global
root for crude oil, which China depends on heavily for
its supplies. Rebecca Bundon, Hong Kong.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
All of my heart, thoughts and prayers are going out
to my Telsa listeners. Actor Gaillard since certain his dead
at the age of eighty one. Sartaine was a regular
on the Country Variety TV series Hehaw for nearly twenty years.
His movie credits include Mississippi Burning, The Outsiders, Fried Green Tomatoes.
In addition, he played the Big Bopper in The Buddy
Holly Story, which was a terrific movie. He was in
all the earnest movies. He was in all three of
(33:15):
the earnest movies that were filmed here in Tennessee My Dad,
Broken Heart. According to multiple outlets, Sartain died in Tulsa
on Thursday of natural causes at the age of eighty one.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But that all is sad in Oklahoma. This morning. You
are Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Thunder our NBA champions winning Game seven, one h three
ninety one over the Pacers.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Sga led all scoring with twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
He was the season MVP, the leading scorer, and now
the NBA Final Series MVP. And he is the leader
of a great group of high high character young men.
Williams with twenty points, Jet had eighteen Caruso pops, some
key trays. Wallace was some big trays. They had ten
points each. The Thunder win. It joined the Florida Panthers
(34:01):
and the Philadelphia Eagles as Big Four champions this year.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael L. Joano.
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