July 2, 2025 • 36 mins
The big, beautiful bill has passed. does Musk start a new American Party as threatened? We ask senior contributor David Zanotti if he does, and how it will impact races.
It took Vice President Vance to cast the tie-breaking vote that passed President Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill.” National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL explains exactly what is in the bill and what will happen next.
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Third hour. Already time is flying. We must have had
some fun this morning. Oh, we had some fun. That's
it is Wednesday, July the second. You know what comes
after Wednesday July the second. What it's just another epidural Thursday.
Can I get an Oh, that's my funday, I don't
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have to feel pain day. It's setting up but dual Thursday,
but still in pain. On this Wednesday, July the second.
It's the big beautiful Bill and it's headed to the
big beautiful house and then hopefully to the big beautiful
Oval Office by the fourth of July. President Trump so
pleased with Lorda's Alligator Alcatraz. Now he wants to open
up the original in San Francisco. And how about CBS
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and Paramount having to write a big, fat, sixteen million
dollar check to Donald Trump to settle a lawsuit for
the way they edited a sixty minutes piece with then
candidate and Vice President Kamala Harris, and the jury came
back with a partial verdict. There's no partial verdicts in baseball.
They set back to deliberate the Shan Didnty Coombs trial.
We'll have more on that coming up in just a
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little bit. All right, Well, if the big Beautiful Bill
passes the House, as it did narrowly in the Senate
with JD. Van's vice president casting the tie breaking vote,
it gets through the House and it becomes law. Does
Elon Musk followed through with his threat to start an
American Party, and thus, I guess divide the Republican vote
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in the midterms and beyond. And if he does, how
does that impact races in the midterms and beyond. David
Sinati's our senior contributor, joining us as always on Wednesdays
because he's unavailable on epidural Thursdays. No, I don't know
here to reign at our big, beautiful parade. Here's David Sinnati. Everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
This is why we maintain a persona non grata among
the political parties and most of the corporate media here
at the Public Square Media Network, because a lot of
this rhetoric belongs in the trash can, because it's it's misdirected.
And I've used other words. If this wasn't radio and
others weren't watching.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Old mine, scotted scatatology, Yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff,
because basically what we're dealing with here is ah, I'm
searching for words.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Let's just say, the United States Senate is so messed up.
It's the United States Senate is more messed up than
the three disks in your neck mic saying a lot
and no amount of shots are nerving that they're creating
to our culture.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We need a constitutional epidural. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
And they do it while they're wearing ten thousand dollars suits,
driving in limousines and acting like they really give a rip,
and we're all supposed to sit there and believe them,
and none of us do anymore. The only people who
are deceived are the people who are in the United
States Senate.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
All of this is predicated by the absurd notion that
you can only do business in the Senate based upon
a sixty percent supermajority.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's not in the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's a rule that began back in the early nineteen
hundreds through Woodrow Wilson to keep people from taking over
the floor and.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Pulling and mister Smith goes to Washington.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It has become one of the most tortured inter nice
scene mob rule approaches that keeps the Senate leadership in
charge of the whole country based upon the deals that
they cut. Now, why is that so difficult? Because we're
divided nation. Getting to a sixty percent super majority almost
never happens since World War Two, and when it does,
(04:16):
usually the roof falls in on one major public policy
piece that then has to be repealed for the next
ten years because the sixty percent supermajority was abused.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
For searching for words. You did a good job, You're
fucked up, I'm sorry, I'm in a pre shot mood.
Imagine if a president couldn't take any actions as president
unless his approval rating was sixty percent.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There you go and look, if sixty percent was so
important for doing the conduct of the United States Congress,
why wasn't written in the Constitution in the first place.
Now I understand there's this notion of a runaway majority
of fifty three percent could do everything and upset everything
and throw everything into absolute chaos. Well, we have checks
and balances in our system that would clearly resists that,
(05:01):
and elections would would work that as well. Now, this
is the first thing we have to do is expose
this and call it what it is. It is a
it's a conspiracy in plain sight, and it's it's I
would say it's a narco conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
In this sense, the Senate is addicted to it. Everything
exists through it.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So you've got a singular parliamentarian that's making decisions based
upon what saying whether this fits within the sixty percent
supermajority in regards to the Bird amendments, A depth dep
depp dip Okay, all of that is.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Caused by the absurdity of the United States Senate.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Every one of those people should be thrown out of
office and we should start over again, and they should
immediately put forward a amendment for term limits two terms
and you're out in the US Senate.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's it, right, because it is a corrupt body.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It's corrupt by process, it goes the corruption is far
past the party.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So you know what, you sound like John Fetterman, who
said this is all a big charade and a game,
and I should be on vacation and.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
A guy that's had multiple strokes can wake up and
figure it out.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Why.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay? I mean, seriously, guys worse than Joe Biden entering
office still walking around in sweatpants and a hoodie. And
I got news for you. If I was starting over,
he's the only one I'd let's stay. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, So that's that's that's a significant problem that we've
got to deal with. Secondly, is the nonsensical bovine Scott
whatever that we were talking about this particular bill, one
big beautiful bill blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay,
there's some things that this thing does that make sense.
Like number one, it is cutting the rate of the
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expanse of the deficit. That's helpful because Trump blew the
deficit sky high using COVID as an excuse, and we
never were able to recover. We're actually getting and Biden
did not. He just took it worse. We actually have
eight Obama doubled the debt in eight years up to
hundred years. Ten year plan to reduce the annual spending deficit,
(07:02):
and over ten years it would only increase four trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, that's a disaster, and that's a trust. We've been
averaging two trillion a year.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You go from twenty trillion to four trillion, Let's not lie.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That is progress. It's gonna take ten years to get.
It just goes back to a point you made a
few weeks ago. Davidson Audi Er senior contributor joining us.
He's co host of the Public Square Hearder Turner Stations,
and he's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable. There,
I got the reset in everybody you know wants and
I presume Elon Musk, being the poster child, wants this
(07:37):
to turn like it's a business. It's not a business,
it's a government. You can't do it that fast. And
you know I saw this coming when I used to
say to you, well, I don't know what trump Ism is.
I suspect on the older end and guess what that's
me and you? Now, when did we become the older end?
(07:58):
Did I mention tomorrow's an pa dural Thursday? No, but
that's the old world Thursday. My wife singing it. No,
she's excited for me.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But it is the Reagan Revolution, which is us in
between the Tea Party movement of twenty years ago that
was absorbed by the Republican Party, which I wasn't a
fan of that happening, and then now Maga, the three
of them combined is the American Party that is trump Ism.
And so we saw that problem in the middle of
where is the Tea Party and will they stand up
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against this just because it's increasing the deficit? And they
got on that narrative and wouldn't let go. But all
in all, I mean, most of the cuts have been
waste and fraud and abuse. Some of it is gradual
cuts to get to for a decade, which sets a
trajectory far less reckless than when we're on. And then
(08:53):
there is the avoiding the largest tax increase in American
political history at a time where the economy desperately need.
It's more money in the economy and the economy to grow,
not the government, that all gets lost. In fact, I
did that quote. I don't even I didn't even know
who this guy was until his latest went viral. But
(09:14):
he's talking about and I presume that he was talking
either about usai D or the Big Beautiful Bill, because
it could have been USI ai D when it was
originally sent, and then now it's just going around virally
because of the Big Beautiful Bill. But the quote from
Brian Tyler Cohen, who is a progressive far left podcaster,
(09:35):
if our Christianity causes kids to go hungry, the sick
to go without healthcare, the stranger to be unwelcome. Notice
that the notion is it's government's job to fulfill the
gospel my.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Christianityes went, And we want to punch this guy in another.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Can't you want to do it? It's been working for me. Okay, yeah, no,
obviously it's not the government's job, it's the church's job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
They're two separate things. Individuals job right, take care of
your own right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I yelled that too loud, Sorry, Jeffrey, but no, but
we're seeing all this nonsen. But how many people even
passing on that that narrative quote have even how many
senators have read this bill. It's a thousands or a
thousand pages. Nobody knows what they're talking about as they're
forming a permanent polarized matrix opinion. That's a bigger that's
the biggest problem. That and the Club of one hundred.
(10:25):
Now the temptations.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Should people throw up their hands and say, Okay, when
I learned the truth, I'm just in deeper to spair. No,
that's not where we want to leave people. This bill
is progress.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let's talk about the text might set you free from
worship of the presidency from the Club of one hundred
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Nor with that, maybe we could become Americans again, into
constitutionalists again, and just stop lying to each other.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This would be really helpful. There is value in this
bill like this, this idea about Texas. Who whoa whoa,
whoa wha.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
The tax reform package that Trump passed messed a lot
of things up for people. It took away the whole
notion of the way people were doing charitble charitable deductions
and changed all of that so that most people today
are no longer making deductions. They're taking a standardized deduction.
That was a big deal. It was a big reform
package across the board and impacted a lot of people.
(11:12):
Those rates have been set and people are now used
to living according to those rates if but they were
temporary because they didn't match with sufficient budget cuts to
match them. Okay, so we're not cutting taxes. We're keeping
taxes exactly where they are, and where they are is
too high, but we're keeping it there. That's all we're
(11:34):
doing is extending that out for another ten years. We'll
have the same fight ten years from now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Now, maybe that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Because situations surely will change over ten years, but it's
not tax cuts. That's the other big bunch of bull
in this bill is that everyone's been talking about tax cuts.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, it's just keeping things the same.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If you don't do that, then you've got to go
through an entire reform package again, and that will bring
chaos to the culture. Like taxes where they are is
too high, but you know what I'm paying them. Leave
me alone, let me get on with that. Isn't what
you're describing. What I used to say that that'th the journalism.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Nobody would even talk about it when I was talking
about it, and I said, that's not going to be
a victory for the right, and that's not a defeat
for the left. It's a problem for the republic. That's
what we're living, this chaos and guess what and here
comes AI. All right, well, we haven't danced around is
the question what district that is AI running? Force? It Nebraska?
(12:35):
So we don't have a sense of reality. Now can
you imagine after the impact of AI, David's going to
answer that ultimate question because I think it would be
the most for his business, foolish thing he could do.
But as Elon Musk, now that the big beautiful Bill
is headed to the House and then to the White House,
(12:56):
is he going to follow through with his threat to
create a new party? And how will that were out
for him? How will that impact the races? When we
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Speaker 2 (14:22):
Can't have your morning show without Joe voice. Let's start
with Michael right here at Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Well, Michael, thank you for the bovine scantology. Reminds me
of our friend Phil Valentine. I miss hearing his voice
every day on the radio. But sure, I'm glad I
get to listen to you. Have a great holiday weekend.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, Phil always said the bovine skeptology. Next is Woody
Sacramento or Phoenix? Oh he is, He's in Arizona, Phoenix, Arizona. Yeah, Woody. Hey.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I have a lot of admiration for Elon Musk. But
if he follows through with his threat to part primary
Republicans or start a third party knowing that it will
splinter the Republican vote and help the Democrats, and he's
going to prove that he's not the smartest man on
the earth.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, that begs our question that we just we've been
leading up to with David and I. We had to
cover the big beautiful Bill, which is a big beautiful
narrative lie and a big beautiful dysfunctional club of one
hundred but let's get to the question. So, now that
it's headed to the House, and it'll be headed to
the President's desk and signed perfectly on the fourth of July,
(15:36):
if he follows through Elon Musk by starting an American
Party to fragment the Republicans and punish the Republicans for this,
what kind of impact on his business, let alone upcoming elections.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Michael, Now that his business is vast, his earnings are
secure in your network. According to forty seven, we all
know the ratings are off the chart. Maybe somebody can
get to Elon Musk and tell him call me. We
sent him a personal note several months ago saying, you know,
I admire what you're trying to do, but it'd be
a really good idea to talk to some people who've
been doing this for a lifetime from an independent perspective,
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because you are in the vegimatic and they are going
to hammer and they just they ate him up and
they spit him out, and the money didn't matter. And
now starting a third political party isn't the answer because
we're dead with the two we have. But we could
learn how George Soros controls the Democrat Party with his money.
It would be an interesting thing for the richest man
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in the world to understand how like the twentieth richest
guy in the world is actually now controlling the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
If he hasn't figured it out yet, we'd be happy
to let him know. So would you even question what
his motives were all along.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Musk's motives? No, I really think Musk cares. I think
he's trying to figure it out. But I think you
nailed it. This isn't a business, this is we the people,
and it takes time to move this ship.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, I don't. I would remind him too that the
left is never going to forgive him forgetting Trump elected
and then for quote unquote, based on their narrative, running
the country with him. And then if you betray somebody
with a ninety two sixty three percent very strong approval
rating among conservatives, well that doesn't leave a lot to
buy your cars or help you with your rockets. But
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you know what, sell it all.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
If you care about the country, sell it all, take
your money and do what is any name on money?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Sell it all. And if you want to be a patriot,
then be a patriot. This is Eric from East Liverpool.
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Speaker 2 (18:07):
Republican House leaders say they hope to have the Big
Beautiful Bill on the President's desk by the fourth of July. Meanwhile,
President Trump's so pleased with Alligator Alcatraz he'd like to
open up the original And there's no such thing as
a partial verdict. Judge sends the jury back to deliberate.
In the Sean Ditty Coombs case in Jurassic World Rebirth,
what if they can put some epidural in my brain,
(18:30):
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going to make? Anyway, we have all your top stories
coming up in minutes from now. We're visiting with David Sanati.
And you know, yesterday I broke this down and I think,
you know, if a picture paints a thousand words, well
here comes a picture, and the picture I would I
would paint for you is And this is going back
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from the beginning of the century. So from two thousand
to today, twenty twenty five, the Republican Party has it's
been virtually steady at ninety eight to ninety two percent.
Proud to be an American, proud of the country, believe
this is the greatest country on earth, and that's been steady.
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And what I related to that was, I've been alive
through twelve presidents, remember eleven of them. And while I
would tell you there were some I liked more than others,
some who I thought were better than others, my view
of America was unchanged because it wasn't tied to a presidency,
it wasn't tied to a single issue. In fact, it's
tied to the Constitution. It's tied to the Declaration of independence.
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It's tied to liberty, it's tied to freedom, it's tied
to opportunity, and so I don't ebb and flow. But
that's not the case for the Democrats, who when they're
in power they like America. When they're not, they don't.
And it just fell you want to view of the matrix.
Ninety two percent of Republicans are to be an American,
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only thirty six percent of Democrats. What do you make
of a matrix partisan America like that? And has the
Democrat Party changed so much that it is in fact
an American and therefore doesn't like America? And unless it
wins this war for America, it's not going to like
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it here. And by the way, that looks like a
Civil War graph more than it looks like a matrix graph.
I know, I just gave you a mouthful. Wow, that's
an eyeful well. And also what you're talking about makes
a whole lot of sense. I mean, always a public
opinion pulled, no matter how long standing it is for
(20:45):
how many years is a bit challenging. Also, the question
of Republican a Democrat is a bit challenging because most
people don't identify with either of those two parties.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
They don't participate with them. It's like a shirts and
skins game, and they are that. The pollsters make it
like everybody's one or the other. Excuse me, most people
are neither.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Well, we talked well, but disproportionately Democrats have been hemorrhaging
to independent more than Republicans. We brought this point up yesterday.
This may be you know, we talk about this socialist
justice now is lomist Democrat party maybe because that's all
that's left. Well said, yeah, well said, and so and
(21:27):
so here we are.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's a fascinating question because the question you're really asking
is who remembers the founding? Who remembers what the government is.
We had a test the other day at the American
Policy round Table. I said, okay, you have to describe
America in less than ten words.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Go now.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Intriguingly, doctor Sanders, who tends to jump first with these questions,
blew the test because he said we the people. And okay,
so that ended the test. But that's the point. You
only need three words, you don't need ten. American government
is we the people. If you want to look at
the American government, look in the mirror. Because the constitutional
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authority or the moral authority of our country is built
upon the consent of the government, which is the primary
principle of the Declaration of Independence. That that consent comes
because there is a creator. He made us with certain rights,
and that we make laws based upon the consent of
the government. That manifestation is apparent in the Constitution, which
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begins with the words we the People. It's not in
the name of God, amen. Not in the name of America, Amen.
Not in the name of the Congress, Amen, or the
name of the King. It's we the people. Three words.
So you look in the mirror to find the American government.
So the political parties have contributed to this because in
the founding era, people were most concerned about factions, in
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other words, identity politics.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They understood it, and they understood the.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Identity politics will tear a nation apart, because a house
divided against itself cannot stand.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Sorry, I'm not a voice.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
Today, No, no, But with the beauty of this is
and it is twisted in the name of we the people,
in the name of democracy, that we're not that they
are dismantling the we the people constitutional republic.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, in favor of a mom mob brule. Yes, yes,
but I don't think they're getting away with it. It's
gonna I mean, I think the Democrat Party dies before
they pulled this off. I mean, we were just talking
about the census and the moving of feet. This is
significant because if Donald Trump has closed the border and
Donald Trump has removed the criminal element, and we still
believe in abortion, and you don't have migrants coming to
(23:41):
fill the numbers, and people continue to move and vote
with their feet, the electoral college is going to shift
dramatically and very quickly. Probably would have already. So now
you have the you know, the census scam and the
open border scam holding it together. But once that's gone on,
now you got to go. You got to you just
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got to go nuke it and try to go right
after the electoral college.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And think about this, Michael, there's a freezing factor coming
on with the depopulation reality. There's not going to be
a whole nother boomer generation coming on with new ideals
that are going to change all this because we are
not replacing ourselves. So there is a serious conversation that
is inevitable in this country. And the Republican Party and
(24:27):
the Democrat Party do not have enough firepower to dominate
that conversation because they've forgotten who we are.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We the people. Yeah, they're too busy trying to control
the people rather than empower them. All Right, So the
bottom line is when we look at this, it's kind
of like, you know, after the bombing in Iran, well,
who's in America? Because that's what we found out on
nine to eleven nineteen of what we didn't know was
in America carried out the terror attacks. And so then
you're like, who, we have no idea because the border
has been open in twenty million of entergy, we don't
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have terror centered with it. They really don't know what
America is, right, So after decades of open borders, decades
of non assimilation during that, do they even know? I mean,
how much of that is changing? How the Democrats look
in this graph. I mean, they really don't know what's
been baked into the cake that they're inheriting.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, and this is where I want to be careful,
because I think you're a secret weapon. Hope that you
are a secret weapon in this country. You're willing to
hold these conversations. Very few people, even in the world
of talk radio and conservative talk radio are willing to
ask the basic question, what is America? I understand you're
proud of it. What is it to understand what it is?
(25:38):
Because the truth is, if I was asked that poll,
I would say, no, I'm not proud to be an American.
I'm humbled to be an American. I'm indebted to be
an American. I didn't put my name on the Declaration
of Independence. Someone handed me my freedom of the day
I was born. So I have a debt depend.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And does that come with a responsibility and accountability, a
condemnability and a duty. Of course it doesn't. I had
to save one it for this or two or three
or whatever it takes. I don't care. Are we gonna
talk one back? You just blow right through every break. No,
I'm just trying to figure out if we're going to
have another visit before the fourth of July. Yeah, let's
visit tomorrow. All right, Well, then I'll save it for tomorrow.
(26:13):
Maybe tomorrow we'll talk about fourth of July. What does
it still mean? What should it mean? Yeah, let's do that. Yeah,
because I think that's important that we at least we
can't control everybody, but we can get our mind right
before the fourth of July. But that that is a
scary picture. I would think that should be more scary
for the Democrats that Well.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
One other thing, Michael, let's remember the sixteen nineteen project
and what that did to us and how it absolutely
blew up the whole. I mean, we've lived through a
full generation of identity politics at the hate field level.
It's no wonder people hate Americas. They've been taught to
hate America. You know what a lot of Christians I
know hate America. They're ashamed of it. I feel like
(26:57):
doing a Tucker Carlson. Thank y so much, Thank you
so much, having good day. Go get your voice, just
don't just don't start laughing like man, Thank you David.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
For those of you that haven't discovered the Public Square,
you can listen to it on demand anytime at the
Public Square dot com, heard on Turner stations across the country.
And he'll be back tomorrow to talk fourth at July. Well,
that's nice. I like filling a little time less. I
have to think about Top five stories the day, no
more on the US Agency for International Development is officially
shutting down.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio made the announcement and the
culmination of the Trump administration's months long effort to dismantle
the agency. USAID was targeted by DOGE with the aim
of curbing waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal government.
Rubio insisted years of four and eight had failed to
deliver results for the US and said that the State
Department would take over a distribution of foreign assistants. Meanwhile,
(27:51):
the Lensett Medical Journal has estimated the end of foreign
aid could cause millions of additional deaths around the world.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I'm Mark Meanfield. President Trump is so pleased with Florida's
alligator Alcatraz he'd like to open up the original in
San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
On Tuesday, Trump was in the Sunshine State touring the
new detention facility for illegal immigrants in the Everglades. The
president later posted, We're going to look into renovating and
rebuilding the famous Alcatraz prison, sitting high on the bay
surrounded by sharks. He added there's already conceptual work underway
for the island prison. I'm Brian Schuk.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Televangelist Jimmy Swaggert has died. His family confirmed the news
on Facebook Tuesday. Kate Fisher has more on the man
considered to be one of the great pioneers of bringing
the church into the home through the television.
Speaker 12 (28:39):
At its peak in the mid nineteen eighties, Jimmy Swaggett
Worldwide Ministries had a television presence in more than one
hundred and forty countries that, along with its Bible College,
brought in up to half a million dollars a day
from donations and sales of Bible courses, gospel music, and merchandise.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Will pick up deliberations Wednesday. After a partial verdict yesterday
in the Sean Ditty Combs trial in New York City.
Kristin Mark says the latest.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
Jerry told the judge Tuesday they reached a verdict on
all counts except the top charge of racketeering conspiracy. They
said there are jurors with unpersuadable opinions on both sides.
The judge said he wouldn't accept a partial verdict and
instruct a jurors to try to decide on that remaining
charge of rico conspiracy, which is considered a complicated one.
The jury has decided on sex trafficking by force and
(29:30):
transportation to engage in prostitution involving two ex girlfriends. It
seems a prosecution took the news better than the defense,
and a quick verdict is believed to be better for
the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Kristin Marx NBC News Radio. Changes may come to student
loan programs after the Senate passed their version of the
Big Beautiful Bill yesterday. Tammy Trehillo has more.
Speaker 14 (29:49):
The legislation lessens the number of repayment plans available to borrowers,
as well as the amount of money that students can borrow.
If it becomes law, it could represent some of the
biggest changes to the student loan program in years. Reports
show a big rise in student loan delinquencies and defalls
since the repayments were paused during COVID. I'm Tammage Rhio.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The village of Dalton is one step closer to buying
Pope Leo the fourteenth childhood home.
Speaker 15 (30:14):
With this once in a lifetime and I will say,
this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We can
either seize this moment and move it forward, or we
can let that moment go to an investor.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's Dalton mayor Jason House. He hopes to close the
deal within the next two weeks. The village Board of
Trustees approved the purchase last night during a special board meeting.
The home is up for private auction through July seventeenth.
The Pope's parents bought the brickhouse in Dalton brand new
back in nineteen forty nine. This hits home for me.
(30:46):
I hate to be hot, I don't mind to be cold,
and my theory is for good reason. When you're hot,
you can be naked and you're still hot. At least
when you're cold you can put more clothes on. Pree
Tennis a new pole that says you might not like
the forecast for the rest of the summer.
Speaker 16 (31:04):
According to a you gov poll, fifty three percent of
Americans would rather be too cold than too hot. A
pole found people would rather reach where layers to maintain
body heat than shed clothing to keep cool. The CDC
says both hot and cold makes your body work harder,
which is good for metabolism, but it might be best
to embrace the cold because there's only so much clothing
(31:25):
you can take off. I'm pre tennis and that's Spots.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Cardinals loss of the Pirates wanted nothing Ooo. Guardians lost
sixty two to the Cubbies Boo Rai's loss to the
A's four to three. Wellen Zachermano They're Yangdbacks went eight
to two over the Giants. Dodgers beat the White Sox
six to one. Of the Angels shut out the Braves
four to nothing. Birthdays Today Marco Robbie Barbie herself thirty
(31:49):
five years old, Curb Your Enthusiasm's Larry David is seventy eight.
Richard Petty, you might have a good He's in honor
of him today eighty eight. Me and Girls. Lindsay Lowen
is thirty nine and one of my favorite female soccer
players of all time. Alex Morgan thirty six.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del China.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
President Trump gets sixteen million dollars in a settlement from
CBS in paramount over trickery during the election. Was sixty
minutes the jury with a partial verdict. More on that
in a moment. They're set to deliberate again today and
tele Evangelis Jimmy Swagger has died at the age of ninety.
Republican House leaders by the chin on their hairy hair
(32:30):
hair will be the Republican Senators got the Big Beautiful
Bill done by the Chin on their hairy hair hair.
Now it's headed to the House and then hopefully to
the President's test by the fourth of July. National correspondent
Roy O'Neil is joining with us to go over some
of these top stories and explain exactly what is in
the bill that everybody's reacting to on social media, but
(32:51):
no one's probably read right right, Well.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Some of it was still written in cursive on some
of the pieces of amendments during the vote rama, so
a lot of this is still coming together. We're hoping
to get the Rules Committee. Well, it got it's work
done in the House last night. They're going to hope
to convene shortly, but they're still doing a nosecount because
of some travel issues with all the House members trying
(33:16):
to get back to Washington but had been slowed down
by some bad weather.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I would guess to the degree that the Speaker said,
you know, don't make a lot of changes, because then,
you know, I mean, if you only get this done well.
There were some changes, especially on the Medicaid side, but
time will tell whether there's so many that there's a
challenge in getting it through the House well right, and
whether or not. You know.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Yes, they'll pound the table and shout and scream and
say I don't like this bill.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Bug suggesting political theater. Well a little, but yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
But then they'll get to say, well, I voted for it,
and you know now, I hope to work to fix
it later on with something else.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I think we're going to hear that quite a bit.
As you know.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
No single member of the House Republican call because wants
to be the who stopped President Trump's agenda from making
it through Congress.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, and that may be a warning to Elon Musk
and once to start a third party over this. He's
a little nicer this morning, by the way. Oh really,
So we don't think he's going to follow through that.
I it's a little you know again, pound the table,
pound the table, all right. So let me ask you this.
Obviously they couldn't get a complete verdict in their jury deliberation,
(34:30):
and it's right where we thought there would be problems
in the p Diddy combs and that was racketeering. Is
it a done deal? They have to go back and
deliberate today.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Yes, they should start in about five minutes time. They'll
be back in the court room. I think the judge
might remind them again to just focus on the job
ahead of them. We got that early note that was
just strange, about an hour into deliberations, when they said
one of the jurors would be unable to follow the
judge's directions and instructions. Look, you took an oath to
(35:01):
follow my instruction, so go back and do it. And
then later we got word, just at the end of
the court day yesterday that they had gotten averted down
four counts but are stuck on the fifth. So the
judge said, all right, take the night, come back in,
try again tomorrow. You know, if it starts getting up
beyond three days for this one remaining count, I think
then they hit the panic button. But otherwise they can
(35:22):
convict and solely be done on these four charges.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
We suspected they're convictions because.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
You wouldn't be debating whether or not there's racketeer and
conspiracy unless you thought there was some underlying or predicate
crime in the sex trafficking and the prostitution across state lines.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Great reporting, Marie, as always, we'll talk again tomorrow. All right,
that'll do it for this Wednesday, July the second. Listen,
one chance to live this day, one chance to make
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and make sure you cherish your own. And we'll see
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Third hour. Already time is flying. We must have had
some fun this morning. Oh, we had some fun. That's
it is Wednesday, July the second. You know what comes
after Wednesday July the second. What it's just another epidural Thursday.
Can I get an Oh, that's my funday, I don't
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have to feel pain day. It's setting up but dual Thursday,
but still in pain. On this Wednesday, July the second.
It's the big beautiful Bill and it's headed to the
big beautiful house and then hopefully to the big beautiful
Oval Office by the fourth of July. President Trump so
pleased with Lorda's Alligator Alcatraz. Now he wants to open
up the original in San Francisco. And how about CBS
(01:21):
and Paramount having to write a big, fat, sixteen million
dollar check to Donald Trump to settle a lawsuit for
the way they edited a sixty minutes piece with then
candidate and Vice President Kamala Harris, and the jury came
back with a partial verdict. There's no partial verdicts in baseball.
They set back to deliberate the Shan Didnty Coombs trial.
We'll have more on that coming up in just a
(01:42):
little bit. All right, Well, if the big Beautiful Bill
passes the House, as it did narrowly in the Senate
with JD. Van's vice president casting the tie breaking vote,
it gets through the House and it becomes law. Does
Elon Musk followed through with his threat to start an
American Party, and thus, I guess divide the Republican vote
(02:08):
in the midterms and beyond. And if he does, how
does that impact races in the midterms and beyond. David
Sinati's our senior contributor, joining us as always on Wednesdays
because he's unavailable on epidural Thursdays. No, I don't know
here to reign at our big, beautiful parade. Here's David Sinnati. Everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
This is why we maintain a persona non grata among
the political parties and most of the corporate media here
at the Public Square Media Network, because a lot of
this rhetoric belongs in the trash can, because it's it's misdirected.
And I've used other words. If this wasn't radio and
others weren't watching.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Old mine, scotted scatatology, Yeah, yeah, that kind of stuff,
because basically what we're dealing with here is ah, I'm
searching for words.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Let's just say, the United States Senate is so messed up.
It's the United States Senate is more messed up than
the three disks in your neck mic saying a lot
and no amount of shots are nerving that they're creating
to our culture.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We need a constitutional epidural. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
And they do it while they're wearing ten thousand dollars suits,
driving in limousines and acting like they really give a rip,
and we're all supposed to sit there and believe them,
and none of us do anymore. The only people who
are deceived are the people who are in the United
States Senate.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
All of this is predicated by the absurd notion that
you can only do business in the Senate based upon
a sixty percent supermajority.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's not in the Constitution.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's a rule that began back in the early nineteen
hundreds through Woodrow Wilson to keep people from taking over
the floor and.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Pulling and mister Smith goes to Washington.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
It has become one of the most tortured inter nice
scene mob rule approaches that keeps the Senate leadership in
charge of the whole country based upon the deals that
they cut. Now, why is that so difficult? Because we're
divided nation. Getting to a sixty percent super majority almost
never happens since World War Two, and when it does,
(04:16):
usually the roof falls in on one major public policy
piece that then has to be repealed for the next
ten years because the sixty percent supermajority was abused.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
For searching for words. You did a good job, You're
fucked up, I'm sorry, I'm in a pre shot mood.
Imagine if a president couldn't take any actions as president
unless his approval rating was sixty percent.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
There you go and look, if sixty percent was so
important for doing the conduct of the United States Congress,
why wasn't written in the Constitution in the first place.
Now I understand there's this notion of a runaway majority
of fifty three percent could do everything and upset everything
and throw everything into absolute chaos. Well, we have checks
and balances in our system that would clearly resists that,
(05:01):
and elections would would work that as well. Now, this
is the first thing we have to do is expose
this and call it what it is. It is a
it's a conspiracy in plain sight, and it's it's I
would say it's a narco conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
In this sense, the Senate is addicted to it. Everything
exists through it.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
So you've got a singular parliamentarian that's making decisions based
upon what saying whether this fits within the sixty percent
supermajority in regards to the Bird amendments, A depth dep
depp dip Okay, all of that is.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Caused by the absurdity of the United States Senate.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Every one of those people should be thrown out of
office and we should start over again, and they should
immediately put forward a amendment for term limits two terms
and you're out in the US Senate.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That's it, right, because it is a corrupt body.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It's corrupt by process, it goes the corruption is far
past the party.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So you know what, you sound like John Fetterman, who
said this is all a big charade and a game,
and I should be on vacation and.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
A guy that's had multiple strokes can wake up and
figure it out.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Why.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Okay? I mean, seriously, guys worse than Joe Biden entering
office still walking around in sweatpants and a hoodie. And
I got news for you. If I was starting over,
he's the only one I'd let's stay. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, So that's that's that's a significant problem that we've
got to deal with. Secondly, is the nonsensical bovine Scott
whatever that we were talking about this particular bill, one
big beautiful bill blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay,
there's some things that this thing does that make sense.
Like number one, it is cutting the rate of the
(06:41):
expanse of the deficit. That's helpful because Trump blew the
deficit sky high using COVID as an excuse, and we
never were able to recover. We're actually getting and Biden
did not. He just took it worse. We actually have
eight Obama doubled the debt in eight years up to
hundred years. Ten year plan to reduce the annual spending deficit,
(07:02):
and over ten years it would only increase four trillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, that's a disaster, and that's a trust. We've been
averaging two trillion a year.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You go from twenty trillion to four trillion, Let's not lie.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That is progress. It's gonna take ten years to get.
It just goes back to a point you made a
few weeks ago. Davidson Audi Er senior contributor joining us.
He's co host of the Public Square Hearder Turner Stations,
and he's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable. There,
I got the reset in everybody you know wants and
I presume Elon Musk, being the poster child, wants this
(07:37):
to turn like it's a business. It's not a business,
it's a government. You can't do it that fast. And
you know I saw this coming when I used to
say to you, well, I don't know what trump Ism is.
I suspect on the older end and guess what that's
me and you? Now, when did we become the older end?
(07:58):
Did I mention tomorrow's an pa dural Thursday? No, but
that's the old world Thursday. My wife singing it. No,
she's excited for me.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
But it is the Reagan Revolution, which is us in
between the Tea Party movement of twenty years ago that
was absorbed by the Republican Party, which I wasn't a
fan of that happening, and then now Maga, the three
of them combined is the American Party that is trump Ism.
And so we saw that problem in the middle of
where is the Tea Party and will they stand up
(08:31):
against this just because it's increasing the deficit? And they
got on that narrative and wouldn't let go. But all
in all, I mean, most of the cuts have been
waste and fraud and abuse. Some of it is gradual
cuts to get to for a decade, which sets a
trajectory far less reckless than when we're on. And then
(08:53):
there is the avoiding the largest tax increase in American
political history at a time where the economy desperately need.
It's more money in the economy and the economy to grow,
not the government, that all gets lost. In fact, I
did that quote. I don't even I didn't even know
who this guy was until his latest went viral. But
(09:14):
he's talking about and I presume that he was talking
either about usai D or the Big Beautiful Bill, because
it could have been USI ai D when it was
originally sent, and then now it's just going around virally
because of the Big Beautiful Bill. But the quote from
Brian Tyler Cohen, who is a progressive far left podcaster,
(09:35):
if our Christianity causes kids to go hungry, the sick
to go without healthcare, the stranger to be unwelcome. Notice
that the notion is it's government's job to fulfill the
gospel my.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Christianityes went, And we want to punch this guy in another.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Can't you want to do it? It's been working for me. Okay, yeah, no,
obviously it's not the government's job, it's the church's job.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
They're two separate things. Individuals job right, take care of
your own right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I yelled that too loud, Sorry, Jeffrey, but no, but
we're seeing all this nonsen. But how many people even
passing on that that narrative quote have even how many
senators have read this bill. It's a thousands or a
thousand pages. Nobody knows what they're talking about as they're
forming a permanent polarized matrix opinion. That's a bigger that's
the biggest problem. That and the Club of one hundred.
(10:25):
Now the temptations.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Should people throw up their hands and say, Okay, when
I learned the truth, I'm just in deeper to spair. No,
that's not where we want to leave people. This bill
is progress.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let's talk about the text might set you free from
worship of the presidency from the Club of one hundred
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Nor with that, maybe we could become Americans again, into
constitutionalists again, and just stop lying to each other.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
This would be really helpful. There is value in this
bill like this, this idea about Texas. Who whoa whoa,
whoa wha.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
The tax reform package that Trump passed messed a lot
of things up for people. It took away the whole
notion of the way people were doing charitble charitable deductions
and changed all of that so that most people today
are no longer making deductions. They're taking a standardized deduction.
That was a big deal. It was a big reform
package across the board and impacted a lot of people.
(11:12):
Those rates have been set and people are now used
to living according to those rates if but they were
temporary because they didn't match with sufficient budget cuts to
match them. Okay, so we're not cutting taxes. We're keeping
taxes exactly where they are, and where they are is
too high, but we're keeping it there. That's all we're
(11:34):
doing is extending that out for another ten years. We'll
have the same fight ten years from now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Now, maybe that's fine.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Because situations surely will change over ten years, but it's
not tax cuts. That's the other big bunch of bull
in this bill is that everyone's been talking about tax cuts.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
No, it's just keeping things the same.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If you don't do that, then you've got to go
through an entire reform package again, and that will bring
chaos to the culture. Like taxes where they are is
too high, but you know what I'm paying them. Leave
me alone, let me get on with that. Isn't what
you're describing. What I used to say that that'th the journalism.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Nobody would even talk about it when I was talking
about it, and I said, that's not going to be
a victory for the right, and that's not a defeat
for the left. It's a problem for the republic. That's
what we're living, this chaos and guess what and here
comes AI. All right, well, we haven't danced around is
the question what district that is AI running? Force? It Nebraska?
(12:35):
So we don't have a sense of reality. Now can
you imagine after the impact of AI, David's going to
answer that ultimate question because I think it would be
the most for his business, foolish thing he could do.
But as Elon Musk, now that the big beautiful Bill
is headed to the House and then to the White House,
(12:56):
is he going to follow through with his threat to
create a new party? And how will that were out
for him? How will that impact the races? When we
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Speaker 3 (14:17):
Now it's your morning show with Michael del Chino.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Can't have your morning show without Joe voice. Let's start
with Michael right here at Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
Well, Michael, thank you for the bovine scantology. Reminds me
of our friend Phil Valentine. I miss hearing his voice
every day on the radio. But sure, I'm glad I
get to listen to you. Have a great holiday weekend.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, Phil always said the bovine skeptology. Next is Woody
Sacramento or Phoenix? Oh he is, He's in Arizona, Phoenix, Arizona. Yeah, Woody. Hey.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
I have a lot of admiration for Elon Musk. But
if he follows through with his threat to part primary
Republicans or start a third party knowing that it will
splinter the Republican vote and help the Democrats, and he's
going to prove that he's not the smartest man on
the earth.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Well, that begs our question that we just we've been
leading up to with David and I. We had to
cover the big beautiful Bill, which is a big beautiful
narrative lie and a big beautiful dysfunctional club of one
hundred but let's get to the question. So, now that
it's headed to the House, and it'll be headed to
the President's desk and signed perfectly on the fourth of July,
(15:36):
if he follows through Elon Musk by starting an American
Party to fragment the Republicans and punish the Republicans for this,
what kind of impact on his business, let alone upcoming elections.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Michael, Now that his business is vast, his earnings are
secure in your network. According to forty seven, we all
know the ratings are off the chart. Maybe somebody can
get to Elon Musk and tell him call me. We
sent him a personal note several months ago saying, you know,
I admire what you're trying to do, but it'd be
a really good idea to talk to some people who've
been doing this for a lifetime from an independent perspective,
(16:08):
because you are in the vegimatic and they are going
to hammer and they just they ate him up and
they spit him out, and the money didn't matter. And
now starting a third political party isn't the answer because
we're dead with the two we have. But we could
learn how George Soros controls the Democrat Party with his money.
It would be an interesting thing for the richest man
(16:30):
in the world to understand how like the twentieth richest
guy in the world is actually now controlling the United
States of America.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
If he hasn't figured it out yet, we'd be happy
to let him know. So would you even question what
his motives were all along.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Musk's motives? No, I really think Musk cares. I think
he's trying to figure it out. But I think you
nailed it. This isn't a business, this is we the people,
and it takes time to move this ship.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, I don't. I would remind him too that the
left is never going to forgive him forgetting Trump elected
and then for quote unquote, based on their narrative, running
the country with him. And then if you betray somebody
with a ninety two sixty three percent very strong approval
rating among conservatives, well that doesn't leave a lot to
buy your cars or help you with your rockets. But
(17:17):
you know what, sell it all.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
If you care about the country, sell it all, take
your money and do what is any name on money?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Sell it all. And if you want to be a patriot,
then be a patriot. This is Eric from East Liverpool.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
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Michael Dell Journal.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hey, it's me Michael.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
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Speaker 2 (18:07):
Republican House leaders say they hope to have the Big
Beautiful Bill on the President's desk by the fourth of July. Meanwhile,
President Trump's so pleased with Alligator Alcatraz he'd like to
open up the original And there's no such thing as
a partial verdict. Judge sends the jury back to deliberate.
In the Sean Ditty Coombs case in Jurassic World Rebirth,
what if they can put some epidural in my brain,
(18:30):
I have to go from my epidural procedure to that
movie with my family. How many of these are they
going to make? Anyway, we have all your top stories
coming up in minutes from now. We're visiting with David Sanati.
And you know, yesterday I broke this down and I think,
you know, if a picture paints a thousand words, well
here comes a picture, and the picture I would I
would paint for you is And this is going back
(18:53):
from the beginning of the century. So from two thousand
to today, twenty twenty five, the Republican Party has it's
been virtually steady at ninety eight to ninety two percent.
Proud to be an American, proud of the country, believe
this is the greatest country on earth, and that's been steady.
(19:14):
And what I related to that was, I've been alive
through twelve presidents, remember eleven of them. And while I
would tell you there were some I liked more than others,
some who I thought were better than others, my view
of America was unchanged because it wasn't tied to a presidency,
it wasn't tied to a single issue. In fact, it's
tied to the Constitution. It's tied to the Declaration of independence.
(19:38):
It's tied to liberty, it's tied to freedom, it's tied
to opportunity, and so I don't ebb and flow. But
that's not the case for the Democrats, who when they're
in power they like America. When they're not, they don't.
And it just fell you want to view of the matrix.
Ninety two percent of Republicans are to be an American,
(20:01):
only thirty six percent of Democrats. What do you make
of a matrix partisan America like that? And has the
Democrat Party changed so much that it is in fact
an American and therefore doesn't like America? And unless it
wins this war for America, it's not going to like
(20:23):
it here. And by the way, that looks like a
Civil War graph more than it looks like a matrix graph.
I know, I just gave you a mouthful. Wow, that's
an eyeful well. And also what you're talking about makes
a whole lot of sense. I mean, always a public
opinion pulled, no matter how long standing it is for
(20:45):
how many years is a bit challenging. Also, the question
of Republican a Democrat is a bit challenging because most
people don't identify with either of those two parties.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
They don't participate with them. It's like a shirts and
skins game, and they are that. The pollsters make it
like everybody's one or the other. Excuse me, most people
are neither.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Well, we talked well, but disproportionately Democrats have been hemorrhaging
to independent more than Republicans. We brought this point up yesterday.
This may be you know, we talk about this socialist
justice now is lomist Democrat party maybe because that's all
that's left. Well said, yeah, well said, and so and
(21:27):
so here we are.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's a fascinating question because the question you're really asking
is who remembers the founding? Who remembers what the government is.
We had a test the other day at the American
Policy round Table. I said, okay, you have to describe
America in less than ten words.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Go now.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Intriguingly, doctor Sanders, who tends to jump first with these questions,
blew the test because he said we the people. And okay,
so that ended the test. But that's the point. You
only need three words, you don't need ten. American government
is we the people. If you want to look at
the American government, look in the mirror. Because the constitutional
(22:05):
authority or the moral authority of our country is built
upon the consent of the government, which is the primary
principle of the Declaration of Independence. That that consent comes
because there is a creator. He made us with certain rights,
and that we make laws based upon the consent of
the government. That manifestation is apparent in the Constitution, which
(22:26):
begins with the words we the People. It's not in
the name of God, amen. Not in the name of America, Amen.
Not in the name of the Congress, Amen, or the
name of the King. It's we the people. Three words.
So you look in the mirror to find the American government.
So the political parties have contributed to this because in
the founding era, people were most concerned about factions, in
(22:48):
other words, identity politics.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
They understood it, and they understood the.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Identity politics will tear a nation apart, because a house
divided against itself cannot stand.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Sorry, I'm not a voice.
Speaker 10 (23:01):
Today, No, no, But with the beauty of this is
and it is twisted in the name of we the people,
in the name of democracy, that we're not that they
are dismantling the we the people constitutional republic.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, in favor of a mom mob brule. Yes, yes,
but I don't think they're getting away with it. It's
gonna I mean, I think the Democrat Party dies before
they pulled this off. I mean, we were just talking
about the census and the moving of feet. This is
significant because if Donald Trump has closed the border and
Donald Trump has removed the criminal element, and we still
believe in abortion, and you don't have migrants coming to
(23:41):
fill the numbers, and people continue to move and vote
with their feet, the electoral college is going to shift
dramatically and very quickly. Probably would have already. So now
you have the you know, the census scam and the
open border scam holding it together. But once that's gone on,
now you got to go. You got to you just
(24:03):
got to go nuke it and try to go right
after the electoral college.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And think about this, Michael, there's a freezing factor coming
on with the depopulation reality. There's not going to be
a whole nother boomer generation coming on with new ideals
that are going to change all this because we are
not replacing ourselves. So there is a serious conversation that
is inevitable in this country. And the Republican Party and
(24:27):
the Democrat Party do not have enough firepower to dominate
that conversation because they've forgotten who we are.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
We the people. Yeah, they're too busy trying to control
the people rather than empower them. All Right, So the
bottom line is when we look at this, it's kind
of like, you know, after the bombing in Iran, well,
who's in America? Because that's what we found out on
nine to eleven nineteen of what we didn't know was
in America carried out the terror attacks. And so then
you're like, who, we have no idea because the border
has been open in twenty million of entergy, we don't
(24:56):
have terror centered with it. They really don't know what
America is, right, So after decades of open borders, decades
of non assimilation during that, do they even know? I mean,
how much of that is changing? How the Democrats look
in this graph. I mean, they really don't know what's
been baked into the cake that they're inheriting.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Well, and this is where I want to be careful,
because I think you're a secret weapon. Hope that you
are a secret weapon in this country. You're willing to
hold these conversations. Very few people, even in the world
of talk radio and conservative talk radio are willing to
ask the basic question, what is America? I understand you're
proud of it. What is it to understand what it is?
(25:38):
Because the truth is, if I was asked that poll,
I would say, no, I'm not proud to be an American.
I'm humbled to be an American. I'm indebted to be
an American. I didn't put my name on the Declaration
of Independence. Someone handed me my freedom of the day
I was born. So I have a debt depend.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And does that come with a responsibility and accountability, a
condemnability and a duty. Of course it doesn't. I had
to save one it for this or two or three
or whatever it takes. I don't care. Are we gonna
talk one back? You just blow right through every break. No,
I'm just trying to figure out if we're going to
have another visit before the fourth of July. Yeah, let's
visit tomorrow. All right, Well, then I'll save it for tomorrow.
(26:13):
Maybe tomorrow we'll talk about fourth of July. What does
it still mean? What should it mean? Yeah, let's do that. Yeah,
because I think that's important that we at least we
can't control everybody, but we can get our mind right
before the fourth of July. But that that is a
scary picture. I would think that should be more scary
for the Democrats that Well.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
One other thing, Michael, let's remember the sixteen nineteen project
and what that did to us and how it absolutely
blew up the whole. I mean, we've lived through a
full generation of identity politics at the hate field level.
It's no wonder people hate Americas. They've been taught to
hate America. You know what a lot of Christians I
know hate America. They're ashamed of it. I feel like
(26:57):
doing a Tucker Carlson. Thank y so much, Thank you
so much, having good day. Go get your voice, just
don't just don't start laughing like man, Thank you David.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
For those of you that haven't discovered the Public Square,
you can listen to it on demand anytime at the
Public Square dot com, heard on Turner stations across the country.
And he'll be back tomorrow to talk fourth at July. Well,
that's nice. I like filling a little time less. I
have to think about Top five stories the day, no
more on the US Agency for International Development is officially
shutting down.
Speaker 11 (27:31):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio made the announcement and the
culmination of the Trump administration's months long effort to dismantle
the agency. USAID was targeted by DOGE with the aim
of curbing waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal government.
Rubio insisted years of four and eight had failed to
deliver results for the US and said that the State
Department would take over a distribution of foreign assistants. Meanwhile,
(27:51):
the Lensett Medical Journal has estimated the end of foreign
aid could cause millions of additional deaths around the world.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I'm Mark Meanfield. President Trump is so pleased with Florida's
alligator Alcatraz he'd like to open up the original in
San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
On Tuesday, Trump was in the Sunshine State touring the
new detention facility for illegal immigrants in the Everglades. The
president later posted, We're going to look into renovating and
rebuilding the famous Alcatraz prison, sitting high on the bay
surrounded by sharks. He added there's already conceptual work underway
for the island prison. I'm Brian Schuk.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Televangelist Jimmy Swaggert has died. His family confirmed the news
on Facebook Tuesday. Kate Fisher has more on the man
considered to be one of the great pioneers of bringing
the church into the home through the television.
Speaker 12 (28:39):
At its peak in the mid nineteen eighties, Jimmy Swaggett
Worldwide Ministries had a television presence in more than one
hundred and forty countries that, along with its Bible College,
brought in up to half a million dollars a day
from donations and sales of Bible courses, gospel music, and merchandise.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Will pick up deliberations Wednesday. After a partial verdict yesterday
in the Sean Ditty Combs trial in New York City.
Kristin Mark says the latest.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
Jerry told the judge Tuesday they reached a verdict on
all counts except the top charge of racketeering conspiracy. They
said there are jurors with unpersuadable opinions on both sides.
The judge said he wouldn't accept a partial verdict and
instruct a jurors to try to decide on that remaining
charge of rico conspiracy, which is considered a complicated one.
The jury has decided on sex trafficking by force and
(29:30):
transportation to engage in prostitution involving two ex girlfriends. It
seems a prosecution took the news better than the defense,
and a quick verdict is believed to be better for
the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Kristin Marx NBC News Radio. Changes may come to student
loan programs after the Senate passed their version of the
Big Beautiful Bill yesterday. Tammy Trehillo has more.
Speaker 14 (29:49):
The legislation lessens the number of repayment plans available to borrowers,
as well as the amount of money that students can borrow.
If it becomes law, it could represent some of the
biggest changes to the student loan program in years. Reports
show a big rise in student loan delinquencies and defalls
since the repayments were paused during COVID. I'm Tammage Rhio.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
The village of Dalton is one step closer to buying
Pope Leo the fourteenth childhood home.
Speaker 15 (30:14):
With this once in a lifetime and I will say,
this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We can
either seize this moment and move it forward, or we
can let that moment go to an investor.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's Dalton mayor Jason House. He hopes to close the
deal within the next two weeks. The village Board of
Trustees approved the purchase last night during a special board meeting.
The home is up for private auction through July seventeenth.
The Pope's parents bought the brickhouse in Dalton brand new
back in nineteen forty nine. This hits home for me.
(30:46):
I hate to be hot, I don't mind to be cold,
and my theory is for good reason. When you're hot,
you can be naked and you're still hot. At least
when you're cold you can put more clothes on. Pree
Tennis a new pole that says you might not like
the forecast for the rest of the summer.
Speaker 16 (31:04):
According to a you gov poll, fifty three percent of
Americans would rather be too cold than too hot. A
pole found people would rather reach where layers to maintain
body heat than shed clothing to keep cool. The CDC
says both hot and cold makes your body work harder,
which is good for metabolism, but it might be best
to embrace the cold because there's only so much clothing
(31:25):
you can take off. I'm pre tennis and that's Spots.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Cardinals loss of the Pirates wanted nothing Ooo. Guardians lost
sixty two to the Cubbies Boo Rai's loss to the
A's four to three. Wellen Zachermano They're Yangdbacks went eight
to two over the Giants. Dodgers beat the White Sox
six to one. Of the Angels shut out the Braves
four to nothing. Birthdays Today Marco Robbie Barbie herself thirty
(31:49):
five years old, Curb Your Enthusiasm's Larry David is seventy eight.
Richard Petty, you might have a good He's in honor
of him today eighty eight. Me and Girls. Lindsay Lowen
is thirty nine and one of my favorite female soccer
players of all time. Alex Morgan thirty six.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
This is Your Morning Show with Michael del China.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
President Trump gets sixteen million dollars in a settlement from
CBS in paramount over trickery during the election. Was sixty
minutes the jury with a partial verdict. More on that
in a moment. They're set to deliberate again today and
tele Evangelis Jimmy Swagger has died at the age of ninety.
Republican House leaders by the chin on their hairy hair
(32:30):
hair will be the Republican Senators got the Big Beautiful
Bill done by the Chin on their hairy hair hair.
Now it's headed to the House and then hopefully to
the President's test by the fourth of July. National correspondent
Roy O'Neil is joining with us to go over some
of these top stories and explain exactly what is in
the bill that everybody's reacting to on social media, but
(32:51):
no one's probably read right right, Well.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Some of it was still written in cursive on some
of the pieces of amendments during the vote rama, so
a lot of this is still coming together. We're hoping
to get the Rules Committee. Well, it got it's work
done in the House last night. They're going to hope
to convene shortly, but they're still doing a nosecount because
of some travel issues with all the House members trying
(33:16):
to get back to Washington but had been slowed down
by some bad weather.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I would guess to the degree that the Speaker said,
you know, don't make a lot of changes, because then,
you know, I mean, if you only get this done well.
There were some changes, especially on the Medicaid side, but
time will tell whether there's so many that there's a
challenge in getting it through the House well right, and
whether or not. You know.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Yes, they'll pound the table and shout and scream and
say I don't like this bill.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Bug suggesting political theater. Well a little, but yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
But then they'll get to say, well, I voted for it,
and you know now, I hope to work to fix
it later on with something else.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I think we're going to hear that quite a bit.
As you know.
Speaker 9 (33:56):
No single member of the House Republican call because wants
to be the who stopped President Trump's agenda from making
it through Congress.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, and that may be a warning to Elon Musk
and once to start a third party over this. He's
a little nicer this morning, by the way. Oh really,
So we don't think he's going to follow through that.
I it's a little you know again, pound the table,
pound the table, all right. So let me ask you this.
Obviously they couldn't get a complete verdict in their jury deliberation,
(34:30):
and it's right where we thought there would be problems
in the p Diddy combs and that was racketeering. Is
it a done deal? They have to go back and
deliberate today.
Speaker 9 (34:41):
Yes, they should start in about five minutes time. They'll
be back in the court room. I think the judge
might remind them again to just focus on the job
ahead of them. We got that early note that was
just strange, about an hour into deliberations, when they said
one of the jurors would be unable to follow the
judge's directions and instructions. Look, you took an oath to
(35:01):
follow my instruction, so go back and do it. And
then later we got word, just at the end of
the court day yesterday that they had gotten averted down
four counts but are stuck on the fifth. So the
judge said, all right, take the night, come back in,
try again tomorrow. You know, if it starts getting up
beyond three days for this one remaining count, I think
then they hit the panic button. But otherwise they can
(35:22):
convict and solely be done on these four charges.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
We suspected they're convictions because.
Speaker 9 (35:28):
You wouldn't be debating whether or not there's racketeer and
conspiracy unless you thought there was some underlying or predicate
crime in the sex trafficking and the prostitution across state lines.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Great reporting, Marie, as always, we'll talk again tomorrow. All right,
that'll do it for this Wednesday, July the second. Listen,
one chance to live this day, one chance to make
it count. Get out there, make a difference in someone's life,
and make sure you cherish your own. And we'll see
you tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael nhild Jo.
Speaker 14 (35:59):
No bad
Speaker 2 (36:03):
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