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We won last night over the Phillies.
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A lot of Red fans. Alright, my bad.
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we're all in this together. Eight minutes after the offer,
just waking up. Welcome to Wednesday, August, the thirteenth year
of our Lord twenty twenty five. Putin and Trump said
to meet in Alaska. It'll be the first visit by
a Russian leader to Alaska since we.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Bought Alaska from them.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:57):
Good morning, David. We were going over the surprising am
you've been having since five am. You've been having way
too much, way too much fun. Now I'm not taking
a paycheck today. Yeah, it happens, doesn't happen, you know,
it happens.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
About once every three weeks. That I think is completely inappropriate.
To be paid for the fund that we've been having today.
Because of that, I'm running late. I don't know how
many it sounds the day, but we were going over
some polling numbers. I want to start with that before
we get to Ohio. Not that I haven't already with
the red score, but I digress. All right, So Mom
Donnie run away and these numbers don't change. It's not
(02:32):
like nobody's following this, so you've I can't imagine. This
reminds me of the movie The Campaign with Will Ferrell
and Zach Galifanakis. I mean, what more could come out
about Mom Donnie than has already come out? And he's
steady at forty four percent. He's a runaway leader. All
(02:53):
the breaking continues to not close the gap of the undecideds.
And so now you have Mam Donnie at forty four percent,
Governor Cuomo at twenty five percent, SLEI was stuck at
twelve percent, and Mayor Adams at seven percent. I mean,
if Mayor Adams bought out of the race right now,
Cuomo's and you make the wrong assumption, every Adams supporter
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would go to Cuomo. He's still down twelve percentage points.
I can't see Slee Wad getting anywhere. I mean, I
think Mam Donnie is the next mayor of New York City.
That's problematic for people doing business there and trying to
live there. But it's a real big problem for the
Democrat Party moving forward. Could be the birth of an
Islamic sect within the party, and it certainly takes the
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party not towards the American people, but even further towards
socialism and communism.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, but it's also exactly the strategy that the Democrat
Party has been working on in assembling their constituency in
major cities, working through tribalism and DEI to then divide
those cities. And it's not that those radical ideas represent
a majority, but because there isn't a unified resistance, it's
fractured over the political party power game. Then you have
(04:05):
a minority that's basically taking over. And none of.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This doesn't happen if they don't do the rank file
in the primary, because if they hadn't changed the rules,
Mom Donnie and Cuomo would have gone into a runoff
and presumably Como would have won.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right, Well, that's yeah, it's it's the ranked file you
call it. It's the ranked. Now I can't remember the
second word for it. It's not filed.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's the ranked right choice, rank choice, that's it. Rank choice.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, and that also is a part of the Democrat storty. Oh,
the strategy along with redistricting. So this has been going
on to set up these exact kind of situations. That's
playing exactly according to the script. And they've got somebody
from Central Casting. And let's not forget one other thing.
There's a lot of people in New York who, no
matter what you say, are not going to vote for
Cuomo because of what he did to them in COVID Exactly.
(04:53):
Will this be a role model for other cities. Oh,
it's it's not even a role model. It's a manifestation.
It's a late manifestation. The Dems already on to new strategies.
They've got the cities, they've got them right where they
want them. Now they're moving out to redistricting states.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The other one. I think it's what you would have thought.
I don't think it's the way you would have thought.
So who's the.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Heir apparent to Donald Trump in three years? Well, I
can tell you by looking at the total list of everybody,
and there's some people gone. Nicky Haley's not even showing up.
Nicki Haley is irrelevant. But I could make the case
to you that anybody that didn't get a cabinet position
with Donald Trump clearly has no chance. Ted Cruz is
(05:35):
at four percent. Rand Paul is at five percent. Glenn
Youngkam this is an legitimate leader from Virginia that a
lot of people were kicking around as a running mate
or a potential presidential candidate. He's at three percent. Irrelevant,
he's not in the cabinet.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Tulsey Gabbert's in the cabinet and still irrelevant at two percent.
Tim Scott is at two percent, and fifteen percent of
likely Republican voters say they would vote for another candidate,
and fourteen percent are not sure. So there's a lot
to still break. But the runaway leaders at thirty five percent.
Jd Vance Now the election is not going to be
held today, but three years out he appears to be
the heir apparent. Being chosen as vice president makes him
(06:11):
the natural air apparent. I thought it was interesting that
the next closes is all the way down at ten percent,
and it's a tie to Santis and Rubio.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, it's early and the most dangerous position to be
in as a front runner for an open seat presidential
campaign and be a vice president's.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Usually, but this is not a usual situation.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, it all depends on the handoff, and it will
be a generational handoff. So it's it's just a questions
question of whether Trump gets out of this with a
good finish and whether Vance handles himself correctly. You know,
one scandal, one slip, one fall, when you're the front
runner and all of a sudden people are looking behind you.
(06:51):
I'm going to come right out and say it. You
may not like it. I know that, I know that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I know that Marco Rubio is Donald Trump's sky and
Donald Trump's son Junior, talked him into JD.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I mean, where do you think JD.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Vance would be on this list if he wasn't chosen
as vice president, was still just a senator in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh, he'd be third or fourth, fourth? Probably all right, So.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Do you think it's possible that Donald Trump, in this
handoff would say JD.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You gotta choose Marco as you're running mate.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think there's all kinds of things that are possible.
I really do.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The most important thing is they better stick to their
knitting and get out of this situation every single thing
that they can, because post twenty twenty six, the world
will change again for them.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But it's going to be an amazing ride. I'll tell
you that it's going to be very interesting to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
David and not of joining us with the American Policy Roundtable,
he is also our senior contributor here at your morning
show headline Politico Jared Brown will run for the Senate
Now he lost.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
To Bernie Marino running for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now he's going to come back for the open seat
vacated by jd which, by.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The way, he'll have to run next year and then
again in two years. The Brown name in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is this potentially the best chance for the Democrats to
swing a Senate See.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, it really is the best chance for them.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And the last poll that I have seen was from
April and Houston only had a three point lead. Now,
I will be quite honest with the AMA John Houstead
fan in the sense that I worked with him, our
organization work with him in the Ohio legislature, and you
Speaker of the House, and he's a very stand up guy,
so I think he's got strong credibility as a decent
leader and a decent human. Now also have the O
(08:38):
Sharon Brown, who is an incredibly personable guy and who
is kind of a survivor. He keeps coming back, and
you're right, he has a big name. The big story
in Ohio is this. However, it's only a three point start.
That's not much in a Senate race. But more significantly,
the radical left wing progressive industry has made a home
(08:59):
in Ohio. In twenty twenty four, they passed the most
radical abortion amendment that's been seen in the country. Now,
if Ohio was the red state everybody thinks it is
that a measure would never have passed, but it did.
A bad situation for Ohio was twenty twenty three. It
was a bad, bad situation, an offf election year. Well,
(09:20):
that same industry is coming back now with an amendment
I've got in my hand right now, the most radical
thing I've ever seen, called Equal Rights Ohio, and it
basically converts the Constitution of Ohio into the checklist off
for all of the most radical things you've ever seen.
The Ohio Constitution, under law shall not be denied. No
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equality of rights shall not be denied or a bridge
in the state of Ohio on account of race, color, creed, religion, sex,
sexual orientation, gender identity or expression regardless of sex assigned
at burg, pregnancy status, genetic information, disease status, age, disability,
recover status, familiar status, ancestry, national origin, old military, veteran status.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, that's just the first paragraph. It goes on. It's
all page guys, and ever mind self evident truth this
would be. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
This is chaos industry that specializes in putting ballot issues
on the ballot, then draining in hundreds of millions of
dollars from the billionaire's club to do one thing. Go
to college campuses, register voters, get them to vote, and
swing three points. That's what it's all about. And if
they succeed in Ohio. Now here's the connection. This petition
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was certified hours before it went through a couple of
ups and downs in the courts. It was certified hours
before Sharon Brown announced his candidacy. He did not announce
his candidacy until it was a lock that this was
through the legal.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Process, so that he could ride this wave he could
ride this wave.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So let me ask you, this would Ohio and I'm
just I'm just the king of Youngstown.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That was almost an achron though you're almost almost don't
acron No what I mean almost? I almost got a
spittake on that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No, Ohio's made a statement on abortion, not that we
liked it, but they did.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And marijuana and marijuana going further, does it have as
much pull?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This time always dangerous? How far can you go into
the deep left in a state that is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Not red or blue? Ohio is a very purple right,
And it seems like this is an overreach and going
too far, and it's reaching for an issue to override
a general feeling in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But Donald Trump is not on the ballot in twenty
this will be the issue that will dominate every media
source in site. And the Ohio media is as deeply
corrupt as New York or LA and they will carry
this banner, so it will make the race.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So the tactic of using the issue yep and the
name brown. That's why I said, is Ohio now the
best pickup opportunity for the Democrats? I believe it is?
Wanted to ask you you kind of agree, it's certainly
one of their better chances. Yeah, gottfelt. So we had
(12:13):
a long discussion in the five o'clock hour. All right,
so the network again, it all began with we had
tones or Static, and NBC was the first to say, well,
why don't we sign on early and do a wake
up show. We'll call it the Today Show. Had a
great deal of success. Then they're staring at night at
(12:34):
Static and they come up with the idea, well, maybe
we should do it Tonight's show like we do a
Today's show. Now, they went out and got Steve Allen,
who originally this was going to be like a bookend
to the Today Show, so it's going to end at
a desk with news. But Steve Allen was just so
charismatic and such a unique talent that it kind of
(12:57):
evolved into what got handed off to which got perfected
by the King Carson Leto Held the Rain. But the
others you had Cavet, I think you had Merv Griffin
and then Joan Rivers. A lot of people tried to
challenge Johnny over the years and failed. The successes came
from the handoff of Carson Letterman, who eventually moved to CBS,
(13:20):
and then you had ABC because of cable news. I
think you know obviously, you know, it just wasn't working
doing news at night, so they eventually get it. Now
you've got late night talk on all three networks. And
then they do what Johnny said, never do they go
political and alienate half their audience and forget their entertainment.
(13:41):
Then flash forward how many years Guttfeldt on Fox starts
doing a late night show, has nothing to do with news,
nothing to do with political analysts, analysis, just funny entertainment
with a political edge, and he starts beating all three
of them. Then he goes and he guests appears with
(14:01):
Jimmy Fallon, whom many think will be the only one
left standing, and the ratings go up fifty seven percent.
It's the largest Nielsen ratings of the year for Jimmy
Fallon and the Tonight Show. Stephen Colbert is already fired.
Jimmy Kimmel's contracts up at the end of the year.
Nobody thinks it's going to be renewed. Is it possible?
Gutfelt ends up on ABC and replaces Jimmy Kimmel Because
(14:24):
this is how it happens when somebody makes a splash
like this, That's what gave Joan Rivers the shop, That's
what gave Jay Leno the Tonight Show.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Or is it possible that.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guttfeldt gets into the viewfinder of Lord Michaels, Because let's remember,
the king of comedy and American television is Lord Michaels,
and he works for a company that has more money
than anybody can even imagine, far more money to lose
than ABC does, far more money to lose than CBS does,
So the play could easily be NBC.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, here's another interesting thing to add to the twist.
Could it be that's why they were so chummy and
that's why it was such an awkward guest appearance where
nobody brought up politics. They're just playing best friends, as
got felt going to be after Jimmy Fallon?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is that the play? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
The last question for you on that note is there
doesn't seem to be a way to leave Fox and
go anywhere and succeed. You are branded with the scarlet
f if you will, would got Felt translate or why
wouldn't Fox just keep it right where it is? Because
you're beating him from there now?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, Greg gout felt certainly talented enough. I don't think
the format of his show is sustainable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So that's the question.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Can you separate him from the format because the format
of his show is kind of like the people who
ung out to the last hour in the Bar. I mean,
it's pretty crazy, and it's actually after a while, it's
kind of annoying because it's so predictable. Now, that doesn't
diminish his talent. He's a very talented guy. So it's
a good question. I think you might be barking up
the right tree with the late night two spot behind Fallon.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, as you know, I have a tail or wagon.
David Zanatti.
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July's inflation report, better than expected interest rate cuts the
President Trump's been hoping for and demanding could be on
the way, and the market reacted yesterday, expected to react
more today. And Vlatimir pot will be the first Russian
(17:10):
leader to visit Alaska EFA as they will meet on Friday.
The data set, the location is set, and the President's
set to visit virtually today with Ukrainian President Zelenski. Well,
the average age of the American farmer is now fifty seven.
That means half of all farmers are older. What does
that mean for the future of American agriculture. Roy O'Neil
(17:32):
is here with that story. Good morning, Rory, Hey there, Michael,
good morning, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Fascinating report this week in USA today looking at this issue,
and what does it mean since we're seeing farmers at
a record old air quotes there, old age, as you said,
fifty seven, fifty eight years old. And look, farmers, just
like the rest of American society the rest of the world,
really having smaller and smaller families. And fifty years ago
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you had six kids, chances are of would pick up
the mantle and continue the job. But these days with
one or two kids, well maybe they're off to the
big city. So there's a struggle when it comes to
keeping these farms in the family. Remember we've got about
two million farms and ranches in the US. Ninety five
percent of them are still family owned. Well, you kind
(18:19):
of headed me off at the past there. I was
just going to say, so farming in general, is it
still family or is it moved on to corporate farming?
And then secondly, obviously this is a sign that the
next generation isn't jumping into farming, probably for some of
the challenges they witnessed as a kid their parents having. Well,
(18:40):
right now, I will say there are some encouraging data
plants here. Between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty two, the
number of new farmers actually went up eleven percent, and
we've got more and more kids graduating with agricultural degrees.
I think that's up about three percent in twenty twenty three.
So there are some encouraging signs here, But overall, we're
(19:00):
seeing more gray hair among the farmers who are facing
huge obstacles, not just with taking care of their own land,
but trying to get labor to harvest some crops. You've
got geopolitical interests with the tariff, say, affecting soybeans or
corn or rice exports, and of course Mother Nature has
(19:21):
always played a hand in some of this, So a
lot of different issues affecting farmers these days.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
We'll watch the crops and we'll watch the aging of
our farmers.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Rory, great reporting, as always. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, Well, we've got the big meetings set for Friday,
Putin and Trump. The virtual call was Zelensky today yesterday,
a little call between Kim Jung un North Korea, where
he's got troops on the ground fighting for Russia and
Vladimir Putin. Was there some intel exchange there? After all,
(19:53):
in the first term of Donald Trump, several summits with
Kim Jung un.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Probably for me.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The bu guest juggling act for the president is going
to be he doesn't have a tariff deal with China
and he doesn't have a peace deal with Russia. Now
you're sitting down with Vladimir Putin. He knows if I know,
you just extended the grace period with China for ninety days.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He knows the strategy. You're going to tighten the noose.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And you're going to try to penalize and isolate Russia
beyond even penalties and restrictions to anybody doing business.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you've already done it with India.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, China buys more oil from Russia than India, So
how are you going to prosecute both of these at
the same time. So the tariff deal with China and
the peace deal with Russia, it's going to be a
tough juggling act. Heritage Foundation senior fellow Stephen Bouchi is
joining us. Stephen, how does the president manage what? Clearly
Putin knows as they play this hand of cards on Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Obviously not going to surprise him with his techniques. President
Trump is you know, some people think he's erratic, He's
actually pretty consistent with the way he does this stuff. Uh,
you know, he'd make a good offer. He'd love to
do it with the carrot rather than the stick, but
he he will quickly move to something that you know,
(21:19):
depending on which end of it is, you know, looked
at his punitive or encouraging uh to do it. Another
unknowable is Trump's you know, sort of anger annoyance with
people who don't seem to playing along. Uh. And you
know he could if because Putin has kind of stiffed
(21:41):
him a couple of times here where he tell you,
I'm ready to talk, let's let's do a ceasfire, and
then like within an hour, Russia is doubling down and
hitting more civilian targets. That kind of stuff ticks Trump off.
And you know, Zelenski saw that when he raised the
thing and when they were still in front of the
(22:01):
reporters there with with Trump in advance, and President Trump
was decidedly unstatesman like, he got really really ticked and
kind of ripped Zolensky's face off, which obviously, whoever encouraged
Zlensky to raise that issue in front of the reporters
(22:22):
did not tell him that was a possibility. So you know,
Putin hopefully knows that and will adjust. But I just
I hope President Trump stands firm makes the case to
to Putin that he's got to make a deal here.
This isn't come to the buffet table and pick whatever
(22:45):
you want, mister Putin. This is something that's got to
be marketable to the Ukrainians and to our European allies.
And I this is gonna be a tough lip for
President Trump, which is probably his most difficult thing now
since he's delayed the China confrontation over the terroriffts a
(23:08):
little more because I believe he thinks he's feeling some
potential movement there. I hope Putin doesn't misread this as, Yeah,
this guy's just another Joe Biden, will him too always.
I don't think that's what's going to happen. Yeah, I
don't don't. I don't think he thinks that. I don't
think this is Chris, Jeff and Kennedy. I think he
(23:28):
knows Trump means what he says, says what he means.
I think Putin can read the writing on the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
What Donald Trump has done with NATO was genius at first,
every saying he's antony NATO. I've never heard of a
president being anti NATO. He's gonna get the whole world destroyed.
He's going to isolate the United States. No, they're more
committed than ever, and they're they're spending more of their
GDP than ever. So with more resources, more united, and
more committed, he faces a United committed, well funded NATO
(23:57):
support of Ukraine. He knows the sanctions are coming. I
think the only tricky part was this problematic tying it,
you know, to where we're gonna raise tariffs anybody that
does business with you knowing you don't have your deal
with China, and China buys a.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Lot of oil from them.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's the only problem I see for Trump, but for
Putin any ambition to reassemble in his lifetime, the Russian
Empire map, not so much. The Soviet Union, I think
is out the window. Even the notion of taking Ukraine
is out the window, or moving on to any other
NATO nation after that. He's not winning the war. He
(24:35):
can't win the war. He just needs to save face
and be shown a proper exit ramp.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What would that be?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What could they cut a deal with that would be
a good enough deal and not compromise too much.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You know, I think what Trump is going to try
and push for is and you know, Zolensky and people
supporting you, you're not gonna like this. That Putin backs
off to the limits he was at before this particular
(25:11):
round of conflict kicked off. Uh And that they maintain
those areas they had, the the you know, about half
of the don boss there in the eastern part of Ukraine,
the areas he had before this invasion. He must keep
at least everything he's got right this minute, and maybe
(25:35):
a little more. I don't think Trump's gonna let him
get away with that. I don't think that's something you
could sell to Ukraine. Uh And and Putin will then
still get to claim victory. We still got you know,
these parts of Ukraine, we've liberated our you know, ethnic
Russians in those areas. Uh And yay, look at us,
(25:57):
we won and they made that may be a victory
for Putin, I'm not sure. You know, that's a tough
sell for Ukraine because they want their whole country back, understandably,
but I just don't think we're gonna get there. And
on this one, I'm starting to lean towards Trump. I
(26:17):
don't think we should reward Putin, but I don't think
anybody's willing to pony up troops and fanes and everything
else to drive him out, which I'm sorry, I don't
think Ukraine's going to be able to drive him out anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, I could see Ukraine and other nations seeing that
as a bad deal, but they got to make some
kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
He's not gonna leave nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No, and that's you know, deals in international relations generally
make everybody unhappy because when they don't, it's not a deal.
It's a victory for one side or the other. A
deal means everybody gives something up, and I think that's
unfortunate for the people of Ukraine. But at this point,
(27:05):
you look, the Europeans stood stronger than I thought they would.
I thought they'd collapsed like a house of cards when
when Putin went into Ukraine and was really pushing for
the whole thing. They didn't. They stood with them. The
Ukrainian people, who I knew would fight, have fought at
a level that you know, surprised probably even themselves, and
(27:28):
definitely surprised all the rest of us, for sure. Surprised Putin.
He was blown away that these guys are fighting as
hard and being so successful. We on our side can
look at this from the standpoint of Look, Russia has
been shown to not be a paper tiger, but certainly
(27:50):
not be you know, the giant Russian bear anymore. Their
military has shown itself to be at best second rate,
maybe even worse than that. I don't think we need
to fear Russia anymore. And if we can start getting
our petroleum products between actual gas going over to Europe,
(28:13):
which I think Trump will will complete, we can remove
from Russia's hands the one big club they do have,
you know, short of nuclear weapons, which is to you know,
put the squeeze on Europe as far as their energy pipelines,
particularly in the winter time. So we can make Russia
(28:37):
feel the pain, but point him towards this off ramp.
That again is not going to be palatable to either
side one hundred percent, but maybe the best we can
do in this case.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, closing moments was Steven Boucci, a Senior Fellow at
the Heritage Foundation, expert in foreign policy and cybersecurity. One
of the greatest concerns I had that I've never heard
anybody else bring up. That's not to pat myself on
the back, just to you know, impress upon you how
important I think it is. Was the losing of Turkey
during the eight years of Barack Obama, and things are
(29:10):
finally getting better. We're strengthening our relationship with some of
the Arab nations. I don't want to see Turkey get
lost in this. I don't There's still an alliance with Russia,
China and Iran that makes me very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So there's things to consider.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But you're right, this has been really bad for their
strength pr let's put it that way, and they desperately
need to regroup. They need to have kids get older,
they can fight. They have their low on munitions. They're
relying now on North Korean troops. Nobody wants to see
this escalated into a world war. I think you know,
(29:46):
there might be some compromise. But the narrative that I
can hear coming in the future is if you reset
everything to before the invasion, you're just going to get
the invasion again. Once Donald Trump is gone, Well, I
got news for you. It's up to the American people
to elect strong president. And if you don't, well maybe
that's the case. Presuming you fail your duty, or Germans
fail their duty, or so on and so forth, because
(30:09):
you're going to have to give up something if you
want to stop the dying, if you want to stop
the war, you're just.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Going to have to. I agree one hundred percent, Mike.
I think that's the way it's going to come out. Uh,
there's worse outcomes. I mean, he could sell out Ukraine completely,
but I pray he's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, he's not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And I agree with you. You know, even if we
had the best day, if Russia left completely and you
get a weak president in the United States more week
leaders in Europe, Russia could turn around and come again.
So it's not that that bad outcome you described that.
Some people would say, oh my gosh, that could happen.
(30:49):
It could happen in any after any outcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, one thing's for sure. The President said he's going
to know in the first two minutes. I agree with them.
I don't know which way he's going to know, but
I think he's going to know in the two minutes,
I think. But it could be a seed for something
in the future. And uh, and we'll talk about it.
Stephen Bouci Love you filling in for the lieutenant colonel
this week.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We'll talk again next week.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I hope it's always my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
It's your morning show with Michael Del Chorno, Rock and Roll.
You did it touch question.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
It's the best way to get back on your feet
is to get up off your arm.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I've been living rent free in that guy's head for years,
and that's just a bot.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Do you call that chickening out?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
They're just blowing off, Steve.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's always a revealing, entertaining sounds the day when Senator
Kennedy's here and this time talking about the problem in
DC and the problem with the left. Listen, did I
just do that?
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I did functional local government that believes that that cops
are a bigger problem than criminals. And then I see
a President of the United States who says, well, maybe
I can help.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
How about if I.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Send in eight hundred experienced, professional, well trained federal law
enforcement officials to help our local cops fight crime. And
finally I see world beating vacuity and stupidity. I see
(32:25):
I see movie stars and pop singers who partied with
Harvey Weinstein. I see the Tofu mob with their NPR
toute bags, and their organic broccoli. And I see many
of my Democratic friends who in response to said president
(32:46):
fall at the mouth and have their nineteenth nervous Brenners,
and instead of thanking the president or saying good idea,
they accuse him of undermining democracy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That pretty much nails it as for is they actually
think police officers are not a solution, that they're worse
than criminals.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Sooner does he say that, then that's exactly what they're
saying on the morning Joe, you don't think more police
make streets safer?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, Joe, I'm a black woman in America. I do
not always think that more police make streets safer. When
you walk down the streets of Georgetown, you don't see
a police officer on every corner, but you don't feel unsafe.
So what is it about talking about places like Southeast
DC right ward eight if you will, that people say, well,
we need more officers to make us safe. I think
we have to rethink what safety.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Means in America.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
This is what an ABC News anchor who has to
be in those neighborhoods to get to her studio, had
to say, Listen, we've been.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Talking so much about the numbers and yeah, usually that's
how you played Devil's advocate as you talk about oh, well,
that's say crime is down. However, I can tell you
firsthand here in downtown d C where we work, right
here around our bureau, just in the past six months,
you know, there were two people shot. One person died
literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was
(34:15):
within the last two years that I actually was jumped
walking just two blocks down from here. And then just
this morning one of my co workers said her car
was stolen a block away from the bureau.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I guess CNN thinks they should just move their studios
to Georgetown. Well, the National Guard has a right and
they're working in DC to restore security and safety. We're
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you never give a Cincinnati Reds baseball scores?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
We won last night over the Phillies.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Just did you know what I think?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Because we're not on and say, we're on everywhere in
Ohio but Cincinnati.
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That's correct.
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A lot of Red fans. Alright, my bad.
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we're all in this together. Eight minutes after the offer,
just waking up. Welcome to Wednesday, August, the thirteenth year
of our Lord twenty twenty five. Putin and Trump said
to meet in Alaska. It'll be the first visit by
a Russian leader to Alaska since we.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Bought Alaska from them.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Especially, the President will speak virtually with Ukrainian President Selensky
later today. The Harvey Weinstein case is now headed to
sentencing that should be today. And the Poltergeist house is
now available for rent. Can you just houses clean? And
then the cable goes out? I should take my wife there.
(01:48):
That was one of our favorite movies. David's and not
he's joining us. He's the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
hosts of The Public Square, heard on two hundred stations
and on demand any time at the Public Square dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Good morning, David. We were going over the surprising am
you've been having since five am. You've been having way
too much, way too much fun. Now I'm not taking
a paycheck today. Yeah, it happens, doesn't happen, you know,
it happens.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
About once every three weeks. That I think is completely inappropriate.
To be paid for the fund that we've been having today.
Because of that, I'm running late. I don't know how
many it sounds the day, but we were going over
some polling numbers. I want to start with that before
we get to Ohio. Not that I haven't already with
the red score, but I digress. All right, So Mom
Donnie run away and these numbers don't change. It's not
(02:32):
like nobody's following this, so you've I can't imagine. This
reminds me of the movie The Campaign with Will Ferrell
and Zach Galifanakis. I mean, what more could come out
about Mom Donnie than has already come out? And he's
steady at forty four percent. He's a runaway leader. All
(02:53):
the breaking continues to not close the gap of the undecideds.
And so now you have Mam Donnie at forty four percent,
Governor Cuomo at twenty five percent, SLEI was stuck at
twelve percent, and Mayor Adams at seven percent. I mean,
if Mayor Adams bought out of the race right now,
Cuomo's and you make the wrong assumption, every Adams supporter
(03:14):
would go to Cuomo. He's still down twelve percentage points.
I can't see Slee Wad getting anywhere. I mean, I
think Mam Donnie is the next mayor of New York City.
That's problematic for people doing business there and trying to
live there. But it's a real big problem for the
Democrat Party moving forward. Could be the birth of an
Islamic sect within the party, and it certainly takes the
(03:36):
party not towards the American people, but even further towards
socialism and communism.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, but it's also exactly the strategy that the Democrat
Party has been working on in assembling their constituency in
major cities, working through tribalism and DEI to then divide
those cities. And it's not that those radical ideas represent
a majority, but because there isn't a unified resistance, it's
fractured over the political party power game. Then you have
(04:05):
a minority that's basically taking over. And none of.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
This doesn't happen if they don't do the rank file
in the primary, because if they hadn't changed the rules,
Mom Donnie and Cuomo would have gone into a runoff
and presumably Como would have won.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right, Well, that's yeah, it's it's the ranked file you
call it. It's the ranked. Now I can't remember the
second word for it. It's not filed.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's the ranked right choice, rank choice, that's it. Rank choice.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, and that also is a part of the Democrat storty. Oh,
the strategy along with redistricting. So this has been going
on to set up these exact kind of situations. That's
playing exactly according to the script. And they've got somebody
from Central Casting. And let's not forget one other thing.
There's a lot of people in New York who, no
matter what you say, are not going to vote for
Cuomo because of what he did to them in COVID Exactly.
(04:53):
Will this be a role model for other cities. Oh,
it's it's not even a role model. It's a manifestation.
It's a late manifestation. The Dems already on to new strategies.
They've got the cities, they've got them right where they
want them. Now they're moving out to redistricting states.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
The other one. I think it's what you would have thought.
I don't think it's the way you would have thought.
So who's the.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Heir apparent to Donald Trump in three years? Well, I
can tell you by looking at the total list of everybody,
and there's some people gone. Nicky Haley's not even showing up.
Nicki Haley is irrelevant. But I could make the case
to you that anybody that didn't get a cabinet position
with Donald Trump clearly has no chance. Ted Cruz is
(05:35):
at four percent. Rand Paul is at five percent. Glenn
Youngkam this is an legitimate leader from Virginia that a
lot of people were kicking around as a running mate
or a potential presidential candidate. He's at three percent. Irrelevant,
he's not in the cabinet.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Tulsey Gabbert's in the cabinet and still irrelevant at two percent.
Tim Scott is at two percent, and fifteen percent of
likely Republican voters say they would vote for another candidate,
and fourteen percent are not sure. So there's a lot
to still break. But the runaway leaders at thirty five percent.
Jd Vance Now the election is not going to be
held today, but three years out he appears to be
the heir apparent. Being chosen as vice president makes him
(06:11):
the natural air apparent. I thought it was interesting that
the next closes is all the way down at ten percent,
and it's a tie to Santis and Rubio.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Well, it's early and the most dangerous position to be
in as a front runner for an open seat presidential
campaign and be a vice president's.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Usually, but this is not a usual situation.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well, it all depends on the handoff, and it will
be a generational handoff. So it's it's just a questions
question of whether Trump gets out of this with a
good finish and whether Vance handles himself correctly. You know,
one scandal, one slip, one fall, when you're the front
runner and all of a sudden people are looking behind you.
(06:51):
I'm going to come right out and say it. You
may not like it. I know that, I know that.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I know that Marco Rubio is Donald Trump's sky and
Donald Trump's son Junior, talked him into JD.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I mean, where do you think JD.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Vance would be on this list if he wasn't chosen
as vice president, was still just a senator in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh, he'd be third or fourth, fourth? Probably all right, So.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Do you think it's possible that Donald Trump, in this
handoff would say JD.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You gotta choose Marco as you're running mate.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I think there's all kinds of things that are possible.
I really do.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The most important thing is they better stick to their
knitting and get out of this situation every single thing
that they can, because post twenty twenty six, the world
will change again for them.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But it's going to be an amazing ride. I'll tell
you that it's going to be very interesting to watch.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
David and not of joining us with the American Policy Roundtable,
he is also our senior contributor here at your morning
show headline Politico Jared Brown will run for the Senate
Now he lost.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
To Bernie Marino running for the Senate.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Now he's going to come back for the open seat
vacated by jd which, by.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
The way, he'll have to run next year and then
again in two years. The Brown name in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Is this potentially the best chance for the Democrats to
swing a Senate See.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, it really is the best chance for them.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And the last poll that I have seen was from
April and Houston only had a three point lead. Now,
I will be quite honest with the AMA John Houstead
fan in the sense that I worked with him, our
organization work with him in the Ohio legislature, and you
Speaker of the House, and he's a very stand up guy,
so I think he's got strong credibility as a decent
leader and a decent human. Now also have the O
(08:38):
Sharon Brown, who is an incredibly personable guy and who
is kind of a survivor. He keeps coming back, and
you're right, he has a big name. The big story
in Ohio is this. However, it's only a three point start.
That's not much in a Senate race. But more significantly,
the radical left wing progressive industry has made a home
(08:59):
in Ohio. In twenty twenty four, they passed the most
radical abortion amendment that's been seen in the country. Now,
if Ohio was the red state everybody thinks it is
that a measure would never have passed, but it did.
A bad situation for Ohio was twenty twenty three. It
was a bad, bad situation, an offf election year. Well,
(09:20):
that same industry is coming back now with an amendment
I've got in my hand right now, the most radical
thing I've ever seen, called Equal Rights Ohio, and it
basically converts the Constitution of Ohio into the checklist off
for all of the most radical things you've ever seen.
The Ohio Constitution, under law shall not be denied. No
(09:41):
equality of rights shall not be denied or a bridge
in the state of Ohio on account of race, color, creed, religion, sex,
sexual orientation, gender identity or expression regardless of sex assigned
at burg, pregnancy status, genetic information, disease status, age, disability,
recover status, familiar status, ancestry, national origin, old military, veteran status.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Okay, that's just the first paragraph. It goes on. It's
all page guys, and ever mind self evident truth this
would be. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
This is chaos industry that specializes in putting ballot issues
on the ballot, then draining in hundreds of millions of
dollars from the billionaire's club to do one thing. Go
to college campuses, register voters, get them to vote, and
swing three points. That's what it's all about. And if
they succeed in Ohio. Now here's the connection. This petition
(10:35):
was certified hours before it went through a couple of
ups and downs in the courts. It was certified hours
before Sharon Brown announced his candidacy. He did not announce
his candidacy until it was a lock that this was
through the legal.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Process, so that he could ride this wave he could
ride this wave.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So let me ask you, this would Ohio and I'm
just I'm just the king of Youngstown.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That was almost an achron though you're almost almost don't
acron No what I mean almost? I almost got a
spittake on that.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
No, Ohio's made a statement on abortion, not that we
liked it, but they did.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And marijuana and marijuana going further, does it have as
much pull?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This time always dangerous? How far can you go into
the deep left in a state that is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Not red or blue? Ohio is a very purple right,
And it seems like this is an overreach and going
too far, and it's reaching for an issue to override
a general feeling in the country right now.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
But Donald Trump is not on the ballot in twenty
this will be the issue that will dominate every media
source in site. And the Ohio media is as deeply
corrupt as New York or LA and they will carry
this banner, so it will make the race.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
So the tactic of using the issue yep and the
name brown. That's why I said, is Ohio now the
best pickup opportunity for the Democrats? I believe it is?
Wanted to ask you you kind of agree, it's certainly
one of their better chances. Yeah, gottfelt. So we had
(12:13):
a long discussion in the five o'clock hour. All right,
so the network again, it all began with we had
tones or Static, and NBC was the first to say, well,
why don't we sign on early and do a wake
up show. We'll call it the Today Show. Had a
great deal of success. Then they're staring at night at
(12:34):
Static and they come up with the idea, well, maybe
we should do it Tonight's show like we do a
Today's show. Now, they went out and got Steve Allen,
who originally this was going to be like a bookend
to the Today Show, so it's going to end at
a desk with news. But Steve Allen was just so
charismatic and such a unique talent that it kind of
(12:57):
evolved into what got handed off to which got perfected
by the King Carson Leto Held the Rain. But the
others you had Cavet, I think you had Merv Griffin
and then Joan Rivers. A lot of people tried to
challenge Johnny over the years and failed. The successes came
from the handoff of Carson Letterman, who eventually moved to CBS,
(13:20):
and then you had ABC because of cable news. I
think you know obviously, you know, it just wasn't working
doing news at night, so they eventually get it. Now
you've got late night talk on all three networks. And
then they do what Johnny said, never do they go
political and alienate half their audience and forget their entertainment.
(13:41):
Then flash forward how many years Guttfeldt on Fox starts
doing a late night show, has nothing to do with news,
nothing to do with political analysts, analysis, just funny entertainment
with a political edge, and he starts beating all three
of them. Then he goes and he guests appears with
(14:01):
Jimmy Fallon, whom many think will be the only one
left standing, and the ratings go up fifty seven percent.
It's the largest Nielsen ratings of the year for Jimmy
Fallon and the Tonight Show. Stephen Colbert is already fired.
Jimmy Kimmel's contracts up at the end of the year.
Nobody thinks it's going to be renewed. Is it possible?
Gutfelt ends up on ABC and replaces Jimmy Kimmel Because
(14:24):
this is how it happens when somebody makes a splash
like this, That's what gave Joan Rivers the shop, That's
what gave Jay Leno the Tonight Show.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Or is it possible that.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Guttfeldt gets into the viewfinder of Lord Michaels, Because let's remember,
the king of comedy and American television is Lord Michaels,
and he works for a company that has more money
than anybody can even imagine, far more money to lose
than ABC does, far more money to lose than CBS does,
So the play could easily be NBC.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, here's another interesting thing to add to the twist.
Could it be that's why they were so chummy and
that's why it was such an awkward guest appearance where
nobody brought up politics. They're just playing best friends, as
got felt going to be after Jimmy Fallon?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Is that the play? Now?
Speaker 3 (15:13):
The last question for you on that note is there
doesn't seem to be a way to leave Fox and
go anywhere and succeed. You are branded with the scarlet
f if you will, would got Felt translate or why
wouldn't Fox just keep it right where it is? Because
you're beating him from there now?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, Greg gout felt certainly talented enough. I don't think
the format of his show is sustainable.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So that's the question.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Can you separate him from the format because the format
of his show is kind of like the people who
ung out to the last hour in the Bar. I mean,
it's pretty crazy, and it's actually after a while, it's
kind of annoying because it's so predictable. Now, that doesn't
diminish his talent. He's a very talented guy. So it's
a good question. I think you might be barking up
the right tree with the late night two spot behind Fallon.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Well, as you know, I have a tail or wagon.
David Zanatti.
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Thirty five minutes after the hour in the Central time zone,
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by eight o'clock thanks to bring us along with you.
July's inflation report, better than expected interest rate cuts the
President Trump's been hoping for and demanding could be on
the way, and the market reacted yesterday, expected to react
more today. And Vlatimir pot will be the first Russian
(17:10):
leader to visit Alaska EFA as they will meet on Friday.
The data set, the location is set, and the President's
set to visit virtually today with Ukrainian President Zelenski. Well,
the average age of the American farmer is now fifty seven.
That means half of all farmers are older. What does
that mean for the future of American agriculture. Roy O'Neil
(17:32):
is here with that story. Good morning, Rory, Hey there, Michael,
good morning, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Fascinating report this week in USA today looking at this issue,
and what does it mean since we're seeing farmers at
a record old air quotes there, old age, as you said,
fifty seven, fifty eight years old. And look, farmers, just
like the rest of American society the rest of the world,
really having smaller and smaller families. And fifty years ago
(17:57):
you had six kids, chances are of would pick up
the mantle and continue the job. But these days with
one or two kids, well maybe they're off to the
big city. So there's a struggle when it comes to
keeping these farms in the family. Remember we've got about
two million farms and ranches in the US. Ninety five
percent of them are still family owned. Well, you kind
(18:19):
of headed me off at the past there. I was
just going to say, so farming in general, is it
still family or is it moved on to corporate farming?
And then secondly, obviously this is a sign that the
next generation isn't jumping into farming, probably for some of
the challenges they witnessed as a kid their parents having. Well,
(18:40):
right now, I will say there are some encouraging data
plants here. Between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty two, the
number of new farmers actually went up eleven percent, and
we've got more and more kids graduating with agricultural degrees.
I think that's up about three percent in twenty twenty three.
So there are some encouraging signs here, But overall, we're
(19:00):
seeing more gray hair among the farmers who are facing
huge obstacles, not just with taking care of their own land,
but trying to get labor to harvest some crops. You've
got geopolitical interests with the tariff, say, affecting soybeans or
corn or rice exports, and of course Mother Nature has
(19:21):
always played a hand in some of this, So a
lot of different issues affecting farmers these days.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
We'll watch the crops and we'll watch the aging of
our farmers.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Rory, great reporting, as always. We'll talk again tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, Well, we've got the big meetings set for Friday,
Putin and Trump. The virtual call was Zelensky today yesterday,
a little call between Kim Jung un North Korea, where
he's got troops on the ground fighting for Russia and
Vladimir Putin. Was there some intel exchange there? After all,
(19:53):
in the first term of Donald Trump, several summits with
Kim Jung un.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Probably for me.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
The bu guest juggling act for the president is going
to be he doesn't have a tariff deal with China
and he doesn't have a peace deal with Russia. Now
you're sitting down with Vladimir Putin. He knows if I know,
you just extended the grace period with China for ninety days.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He knows the strategy. You're going to tighten the noose.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And you're going to try to penalize and isolate Russia
beyond even penalties and restrictions to anybody doing business.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you've already done it with India.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Well, China buys more oil from Russia than India, So
how are you going to prosecute both of these at
the same time. So the tariff deal with China and
the peace deal with Russia, it's going to be a
tough juggling act. Heritage Foundation senior fellow Stephen Bouchi is
joining us. Stephen, how does the president manage what? Clearly
Putin knows as they play this hand of cards on Friday.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Obviously not going to surprise him with his techniques. President
Trump is you know, some people think he's erratic, He's
actually pretty consistent with the way he does this stuff. Uh,
you know, he'd make a good offer. He'd love to
do it with the carrot rather than the stick, but
he he will quickly move to something that you know,
(21:19):
depending on which end of it is, you know, looked
at his punitive or encouraging uh to do it. Another
unknowable is Trump's you know, sort of anger annoyance with
people who don't seem to playing along. Uh. And you
know he could if because Putin has kind of stiffed
(21:41):
him a couple of times here where he tell you,
I'm ready to talk, let's let's do a ceasfire, and
then like within an hour, Russia is doubling down and
hitting more civilian targets. That kind of stuff ticks Trump off.
And you know, Zelenski saw that when he raised the
thing and when they were still in front of the
(22:01):
reporters there with with Trump in advance, and President Trump
was decidedly unstatesman like, he got really really ticked and
kind of ripped Zolensky's face off, which obviously, whoever encouraged
Zlensky to raise that issue in front of the reporters
(22:22):
did not tell him that was a possibility. So you know,
Putin hopefully knows that and will adjust. But I just
I hope President Trump stands firm makes the case to
to Putin that he's got to make a deal here.
This isn't come to the buffet table and pick whatever
(22:45):
you want, mister Putin. This is something that's got to
be marketable to the Ukrainians and to our European allies.
And I this is gonna be a tough lip for
President Trump, which is probably his most difficult thing now
since he's delayed the China confrontation over the terroriffts a
(23:08):
little more because I believe he thinks he's feeling some
potential movement there. I hope Putin doesn't misread this as, Yeah,
this guy's just another Joe Biden, will him too always.
I don't think that's what's going to happen. Yeah, I
don't don't. I don't think he thinks that. I don't
think this is Chris, Jeff and Kennedy. I think he
(23:28):
knows Trump means what he says, says what he means.
I think Putin can read the writing on the wall.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
What Donald Trump has done with NATO was genius at first,
every saying he's antony NATO. I've never heard of a
president being anti NATO. He's gonna get the whole world destroyed.
He's going to isolate the United States. No, they're more
committed than ever, and they're they're spending more of their
GDP than ever. So with more resources, more united, and
more committed, he faces a United committed, well funded NATO
(23:57):
support of Ukraine. He knows the sanctions are coming. I
think the only tricky part was this problematic tying it,
you know, to where we're gonna raise tariffs anybody that
does business with you knowing you don't have your deal
with China, and China buys a.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Lot of oil from them.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's the only problem I see for Trump, but for
Putin any ambition to reassemble in his lifetime, the Russian
Empire map, not so much. The Soviet Union, I think
is out the window. Even the notion of taking Ukraine
is out the window, or moving on to any other
NATO nation after that. He's not winning the war. He
(24:35):
can't win the war. He just needs to save face
and be shown a proper exit ramp.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What would that be?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
What could they cut a deal with that would be
a good enough deal and not compromise too much.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You know, I think what Trump is going to try
and push for is and you know, Zolensky and people
supporting you, you're not gonna like this. That Putin backs
off to the limits he was at before this particular
(25:11):
round of conflict kicked off. Uh And that they maintain
those areas they had, the the you know, about half
of the don boss there in the eastern part of Ukraine,
the areas he had before this invasion. He must keep
at least everything he's got right this minute, and maybe
(25:35):
a little more. I don't think Trump's gonna let him
get away with that. I don't think that's something you
could sell to Ukraine. Uh And and Putin will then
still get to claim victory. We still got you know,
these parts of Ukraine, we've liberated our you know, ethnic
Russians in those areas. Uh And yay, look at us,
(25:57):
we won and they made that may be a victory
for Putin, I'm not sure. You know, that's a tough
sell for Ukraine because they want their whole country back, understandably,
but I just don't think we're gonna get there. And
on this one, I'm starting to lean towards Trump. I
(26:17):
don't think we should reward Putin, but I don't think
anybody's willing to pony up troops and fanes and everything
else to drive him out, which I'm sorry, I don't
think Ukraine's going to be able to drive him out anymore.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, I could see Ukraine and other nations seeing that
as a bad deal, but they got to make some
kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
He's not gonna leave nothing.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No, and that's you know, deals in international relations generally
make everybody unhappy because when they don't, it's not a deal.
It's a victory for one side or the other. A
deal means everybody gives something up, and I think that's
unfortunate for the people of Ukraine. But at this point,
(27:05):
you look, the Europeans stood stronger than I thought they would.
I thought they'd collapsed like a house of cards when
when Putin went into Ukraine and was really pushing for
the whole thing. They didn't. They stood with them. The
Ukrainian people, who I knew would fight, have fought at
a level that you know, surprised probably even themselves, and
(27:28):
definitely surprised all the rest of us, for sure. Surprised Putin.
He was blown away that these guys are fighting as
hard and being so successful. We on our side can
look at this from the standpoint of Look, Russia has
been shown to not be a paper tiger, but certainly
(27:50):
not be you know, the giant Russian bear anymore. Their
military has shown itself to be at best second rate,
maybe even worse than that. I don't think we need
to fear Russia anymore. And if we can start getting
our petroleum products between actual gas going over to Europe,
(28:13):
which I think Trump will will complete, we can remove
from Russia's hands the one big club they do have,
you know, short of nuclear weapons, which is to you know,
put the squeeze on Europe as far as their energy pipelines,
particularly in the winter time. So we can make Russia
(28:37):
feel the pain, but point him towards this off ramp.
That again is not going to be palatable to either
side one hundred percent, but maybe the best we can
do in this case.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah, closing moments was Steven Boucci, a Senior Fellow at
the Heritage Foundation, expert in foreign policy and cybersecurity. One
of the greatest concerns I had that I've never heard
anybody else bring up. That's not to pat myself on
the back, just to you know, impress upon you how
important I think it is. Was the losing of Turkey
during the eight years of Barack Obama, and things are
(29:10):
finally getting better. We're strengthening our relationship with some of
the Arab nations. I don't want to see Turkey get
lost in this. I don't There's still an alliance with Russia,
China and Iran that makes me very uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So there's things to consider.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But you're right, this has been really bad for their
strength pr let's put it that way, and they desperately
need to regroup. They need to have kids get older,
they can fight. They have their low on munitions. They're
relying now on North Korean troops. Nobody wants to see
this escalated into a world war. I think you know,
(29:46):
there might be some compromise. But the narrative that I
can hear coming in the future is if you reset
everything to before the invasion, you're just going to get
the invasion again. Once Donald Trump is gone, Well, I
got news for you. It's up to the American people
to elect strong president. And if you don't, well maybe
that's the case. Presuming you fail your duty, or Germans
fail their duty, or so on and so forth, because
(30:09):
you're going to have to give up something if you
want to stop the dying, if you want to stop
the war, you're just.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Going to have to. I agree one hundred percent, Mike.
I think that's the way it's going to come out. Uh,
there's worse outcomes. I mean, he could sell out Ukraine completely,
but I pray he's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, he's not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And I agree with you. You know, even if we
had the best day, if Russia left completely and you
get a weak president in the United States more week
leaders in Europe, Russia could turn around and come again.
So it's not that that bad outcome you described that.
Some people would say, oh my gosh, that could happen.
(30:49):
It could happen in any after any outcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, one thing's for sure. The President said he's going
to know in the first two minutes. I agree with them.
I don't know which way he's going to know, but
I think he's going to know in the two minutes,
I think. But it could be a seed for something
in the future. And uh, and we'll talk about it.
Stephen Bouci Love you filling in for the lieutenant colonel
this week.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We'll talk again next week.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I hope it's always my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
It's your morning show with Michael Del Chorno, Rock and Roll.
You did it touch question.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
It's the best way to get back on your feet
is to get up off your arm.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I've been living rent free in that guy's head for years,
and that's just a bot.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Do you call that chickening out?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
They're just blowing off, Steve.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
It's always a revealing, entertaining sounds the day when Senator
Kennedy's here and this time talking about the problem in
DC and the problem with the left. Listen, did I
just do that?
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I did functional local government that believes that that cops
are a bigger problem than criminals. And then I see
a President of the United States who says, well, maybe
I can help.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
How about if I.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
Send in eight hundred experienced, professional, well trained federal law
enforcement officials to help our local cops fight crime. And
finally I see world beating vacuity and stupidity. I see
(32:25):
I see movie stars and pop singers who partied with
Harvey Weinstein. I see the Tofu mob with their NPR
toute bags, and their organic broccoli. And I see many
of my Democratic friends who in response to said president
(32:46):
fall at the mouth and have their nineteenth nervous Brenners,
and instead of thanking the president or saying good idea,
they accuse him of undermining democracy.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
That pretty much nails it as for is they actually
think police officers are not a solution, that they're worse
than criminals.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Sooner does he say that, then that's exactly what they're
saying on the morning Joe, you don't think more police
make streets safer?
Speaker 5 (33:19):
No, Joe, I'm a black woman in America. I do
not always think that more police make streets safer. When
you walk down the streets of Georgetown, you don't see
a police officer on every corner, but you don't feel unsafe.
So what is it about talking about places like Southeast
DC right ward eight if you will, that people say, well,
we need more officers to make us safe. I think
we have to rethink what safety.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Means in America.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
This is what an ABC News anchor who has to
be in those neighborhoods to get to her studio, had
to say, Listen, we've been.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
Talking so much about the numbers and yeah, usually that's
how you played Devil's advocate as you talk about oh, well,
that's say crime is down. However, I can tell you
firsthand here in downtown d C where we work, right
here around our bureau, just in the past six months,
you know, there were two people shot. One person died
literally two blocks down here from the bureau. It was
(34:15):
within the last two years that I actually was jumped
walking just two blocks down from here. And then just
this morning one of my co workers said her car
was stolen a block away from the bureau.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I guess CNN thinks they should just move their studios
to Georgetown. Well, the National Guard has a right and
they're working in DC to restore security and safety. We're
all in this together. This is Your Morning Show with
Michael ndheld Joano
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