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Speaker 1 (00:41):
Five minutes after the hour, Good morning, and welcome to Thursday, August,
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place at this morning's kitchen table. Well, two children eight
and ten are dead, seventeen others wounded after a Catholic
school shooting, an act of evil in Minneapolis. Your morning show,
A national correspondent, Roy O'Neal is here with the very latest.
And there's so much to peruse, from the manifesto to
(01:23):
the video, to the messages on the weapons and the ammunition.
This particular shooter left no motive to doubt, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Right, an awful lot to unpacked though, And some of
those messages, as you said, things were written on the
ammo and the guns that were used in the attack
three guns in all, each of them purchased legally, a shotgun,
a rifle, and a pistol. All three were actually used
in the assault. Some of the messages that were posted
online and videos included images of either I didn't even
(01:55):
like to use manifesto.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It's sort of some rambling writings.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Most of it was apologies family members about what was
about to happen. So clearly they were aware that this
attack was going to cause a whole lot of pain
in that community.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Messages that were on the did you watch the entire
twenty minute video, very very disturbing. I would think, you know,
at some point anybody watching that, anybody who's watched that
or seen the movie the conjuring would say that there
was constant voices, some that were clearly him, some that
were like a voice within him talking to him. And
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then the reaction he had at the picture of Christ
which he had superposed on a shooting target was rather disturbing.
But so were the things that were written. And there
was a theme to it, Where's your God? Where's your
effing God? Do you believe in God?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Now?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Take this? You and Edith? And it was a mocking
of the Eucharis.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Six million wasn't enough a reference to the Holocaust, jew gas,
Israel must fall, burn, Israel killed? Donald Trump, New g India.
I mean, it was so many messages, but the really
clear things seemed to be religion, specifically Christ and Christians.
(03:11):
And we know he went to that school, though he
didn't he never made any reference to anything about going
to that school, as much as a hatred for God.
It's really interesting to try to put piece it together.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, no listing of the target or why that day
in particular, or why the church not the school itself,
you know, none of that or why children you know,
there were obviously the intended target here, no explanation about that.
It seemed to be, you know, the FBI is investigating
this is really an anti Catholic crime. Maybe that was
more the motivation here, but clearly, you know, Minnesota does
(03:46):
have red flag laws, but no one either sought to
use them was aware how they could be used, because
it's difficult to imagine how some red flags could have
been missed here.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, and the notion that these kids were in church
praying as the shots went off. An eight and ten
year old killed, seventeen others wounded. We have several they're
in critical condition. Do we have any updates on their
conditions this morning?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All of them are expected to recover, we know that
so or at least they are expected to survive their injuries.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
All right, Rory O'Neil, thanks so much for that. Rory's
gonna be back in the third hour we visit some
of this and then he also has a very interesting story.
New poll National Poll out deals with how Americans feel
about President Trump's policies, including deployment of the National Guard
in Washington again, like all polls, I don't know if
we're going to find out what the American people really
think or if what the matrix is effectively narrativeized. David
(04:42):
Sanati's a our senior contributor, and this is a senior
contributor moment if there ever was one, you know, I
put on Facebook immediately yesterday, just a reminder. This evil
act of violence against children who were literally praying is
not a social media event. It's a human tragedy. These
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kids and parents need our prayers and not opinions, especially
until we have all the facts. Please spend your time praying.
And that's how I spent my day as I watched
just the opposite happen, and really with the depth of journalism,
mainstream mainstream media that the left in Minnesota immediately went
after the guns, immediately went after Trump's policies of policing,
(05:27):
when the manifesto and the video and the weapons all
told a much different story. This was This was Covenant
Nashville shooting all over again.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
It's also the South Carolina church shooting all over again.
And here's why. Because evil knows no political boundaries or ideologies.
Evil is evil, and evil will utilize The forces of
evil will utilize any ideology, any race, any economic or
socioeconomics steps, any institution. Evil is evil, and our challenge
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is a culture is the fact that we want to
live every day and denial of evil and evil cannot
be negotiated with. And when we negotiate with evil, death
is inevitable. And that's the harsh reality that no one
wants to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So what is Robert Westman, even though he wanted to
be called Robin? What does he tell us in his
own words that he's transgender, that he's very depressed, very suicidal,
has decided he wants to kill innocent children before he
kills himself. In the twenty minute video, he has a
(06:38):
revolver that he claims is for him, and you literally
see him point it to like under the chin. It's
from his perspectives. You just see the muzzle going, you know,
it's on his chin. And then he makes comments. You
know people listening to the radio that go, oh, here
they go again with evil and Christianity.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Look, go watch that video.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Oh Michael, you forgive me for interrupting esteemed hosts, But
the problem is not enough people are going to.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Talk about oh, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
True, But when you watch the video David and he
gets to Christ, a voice he hadn't used yet comes out,
and it sounds like it's straight from the Exorcist, straight
from the conjuring, and the reaction to the picture of
Jesus that he is superimposed over a shooting target, and
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that reaction, this was evil.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I'm telling you, this.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Kid, I don't I watched that. Is he mentally ill
or is he demon possessed? I would have guessed the
latter quite frankly. How does nobody notice that he's still
living at home?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Nobody notices this?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
And we will attribute a lot of these things to
quote mental health, but we won't ask ourselves the question
of where does the mental health breakdown begin? And there
are multiple answers to that. Some of our mental health
questions in our culture are physiological.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Let's be very clear about that.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
People are some people are victims of mental health issuesetics, injuries,
et cetera. But then there are the things that we
do to each other, and then there are the things
that we do to ourselves. And the bottom line is
that evil is composite and it irrupts, and when it does,
we're all forced to take a look at it, and
it's shocking, it's horrible. We want to look away, and
(08:18):
we also want to come up with patterns and ways
to compartmentalize and dismiss and move on with our lives
because this scares the living daylights out of all us. Now,
I'll tell you what scares me just as much is
yesterday there was a woman who died after a road
rage incident was reported yesterday, absolutely meaningless road rage incident
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in the southeastern the United States, where two people got
stupid on the highway. A pregnant woman was in the
vehicle where a bullet was fired into that vehicle killed her.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And the baby was delivered alive.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Oh, the baby was delivered. Yes, the baby was delivered alive.
How is that any less evil? The pattern of evil
is evil. This is what we do to each other.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I use this quote to start the show, and I'm
going to use it to start our conversation. Yes, believe
it or not, we haven't started yet, Jesse Waters. This
is from the transcript A suit and this is if
you watch the video, look at the I don't know
if you would call it a manifesto, but he thought
it was a manifesto, which he purposely filmed turned the
pages film. He wanted everybody to read this, And let
(09:24):
me tell you something. Law enforcement in the media couldn't
delete these things fast enough, but people captured them, and
so the video tells the whole story and you can't
narrativize your way out of it. Though that didn't stop
a Mare and others in Minnesota. But Jesse Waters basically
opens and says, a trans a suicidal transgender who hates Trump,
(09:45):
hates Christians and Jews, shoots up kids at a Catholic church.
And then media is focused on handguns. So how are
we supposed to protect ourselves from suicidal transgender who hate Trump,
Christians and Jews and want to shoot us up? The
media is bad at pattern recognition. Now it goes beyond that.
(10:06):
I think Jesse Waters probably gets it. Why is identity
such a key clue in this case? It was a
key clue in the Covenant shooting in Nashville, and it's out.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Why is this identity issue so big?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Well, and if you'll forgive me for one second, kind,
the identity issue is so big because it's misdiagnosed and misunderstood.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's just the rage of confusion.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Now I know we want answers, and we want to
compartmentalize the answers into saying, if this category is dealt with,
then it goes away.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
No evil knows no category, right, just.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Move on to the next one, just like they can
move on to the next weapon.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
And because evil will use religion as well as anti religion,
evil will use anything. If we want to get back
to reality, what we should do is spend a little
bit of time studying the Ten Commandments, the great Jewish
tradition of moral law, revealed the God, the creator of
the universe, and ask ourselves, how are we doing?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We say, well, it's God a scorekeeper.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
No, God's already got the score, all right, and he's
already settled the score. That's why he sent a redeemer
to the world named Jesus Christ. The answer, however, is
how do we deal with evil? And when it comes
to the media, we have to be honest. We have
to be honest and say that every commercial network that
I am aware of makes money from things that hurt us,
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that fundamentally lead us into temptation. And that's why the
media is always looking for an answer and politicians are
always scurrying for something to blame because we can't afford
to blame ourselves because if we do, then we're morally culpable,
all of us.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
For how are we dealing with evil?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
So forgive me, but I want to pick on one
of those, and that is all right? So we look
at the tech commandments as a whole.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
If you're a culture and you turn a blind eye
to four or five of those, you're not capable of
then identifying one and stopping it. So, in other words,
can you really I mean, there's two ways to look
at evil. Right, there is a devil, and what do
(12:09):
you say? Resist the devil and he will flee. He's
already defeated, he's already conquered. Well, that's one way of
looking at it. But you're talking about these things, So
we turn a blind eye to how many of those
ten commandments? And then when it gets to murder we
suddenly want an answer. Well, I think the problem is
the lack of discipline in the other five that make
the sixth not that much giant double leap.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
And again we can do this by degrees, and everyone,
of course is going to have their particular.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Habit and tendency ignored.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Like I'd like to see the medicine cabinet of every
one of these shooters that we're talking about. I'd like
to see the medicine cabinets and the prescription drug situations
that all these folks have been dealing with. Because we
don't want to talk about the fact that that we're
drugging ourselves into incoherence and into depression and into worse places.
We don't talk about that there's too much money there.
(12:58):
And then it's not to say that all drugs are
bad or that they did that drugs do bad things.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
No, but we do bad things.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I say this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Everybody that watches that twenty minute video would say this
kid is soulless. He doesn't have human thoughts, emotions, or soul.
That could be a side effective multiple drugs for all
we know.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Well, it could also be the fact that words his father.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't think we know much about all the family pictures,
there is no father, just the mother.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Worse Michael, because the more we have to look at this,
the more we have to look in the mirror. You know,
divorce has consequences, and I have very dear friends that
have been through divorce and are much better off today
than where they were, and I thank God that for that.
I'm not saying divorce is always absolutely wrong. What I'm
saying is a divorce culture that devalues marriage and makes
it casual like we're still dating in high school, especially
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when there's kids involved, has consequences in human souls and
brokenness manifests itself in a culture that's surrounded by evils.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If this is all being matrixed, the left wants to
present you guns, sure and hatred towards trans and a
president that's overstepping his presidential authority. The right wants to
hand you trans and mental illness. What should we do
in understanding this? What should our move be?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
For me?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Any move other than prayer seems worthless, beyond opinion, and
maybe even still a little premature, even though we have
a lot more facts. We'll ask David that question. We
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This is your morning show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It is day all over again. The Covenant National shooting,
ignored by the media, just repeated itself in Minneapolis. David Zanati,
our senior contributors here, I struggle on days like this
because I'm still in shut up. The only thing that
makes any sense is prayer. The only thing that can
make any difference in those kids' lives there, anybody at
that church's life, is to pray a God that can
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actually go and heal them and do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
You know, my opinion, could never do.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's just so hard to say anything because it almost
feels like you're being a.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Part of the problem. I have mercy on America.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah, got to mercy on our souls now, Michael, grieving
is appropriate and silence is appropriate, and and of course
we're all looking for patterns we all own resolve the problem. Look,
this is a moral problem of the universe. We didn't
invent it. We're not going to fix it. The answers
not at the bottom of a of a test tube.
(16:58):
It's not at the bottom of a prescription. This is
a question of the soul.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
One of the things that may have failed is red
flag laws, because someone this mentally ill was certainly taking
certain drugs and he couldn't be what he was in
twenty minutes in that video and then look normal living
in that house or moving about that community.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
How did those fail? We'll talk more about it when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
David Sanati our senior contributor, and I have one other
story I wanted to kind of run by you as well.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
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Michael del Jornam. This is Thursday, August the twenty eighth.
Of course, the big story is two children are dead,
eight and ten years old. Seventeen others injured, although all
expected to recover after an evil shooting at a Catholic
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school and church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Senior contributor David Snati
is joining us. I'm trying to remember the name of
that movie and it's driving me crazy, But just to
kind of summarize this particular kid, it goes beyond just transgendered.
He's Robert Westman wanted to be called Robin. So you
have transgenderedism in this issue. If you watch any of
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the video that he made and the delight I turned
that video off and my thought was, he hates God.
I don't even think there's a human being on earth
capable of hating God as much as this kid. Only
Lucifer and his band of demons would hate God and
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hate God's creation.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Remember that's what satan is.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's mostly beyond a jealousy, an envy that God would
love something that didn't earn it, or a created being.
And that all comes out in this kid. Now his
hate for Christ is clearest, but also the creation Christians, Jews, Indians.
I mean, he had something for every one of God's
creations and ethnicities.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
But this was.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Clearly sick, yes, but it was also very evil, even
different voiced utterances. And there's one telling moment, David, when
he gets to the children and the delight, I mean,
the hysterical delight.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
In killing the innocent children.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's the kind of thing evil wants to do, knowing
it's the ultimate pain to cause. And you're saying, that's
our blind spot. We'll discuss everything but evil, even in
the matrix today. We'll discuss transgenderatism, we'll discuss mental illness.
On the left, they'll discuss guns, they'll discuss Trump, but
no one will discuss evil.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
And I really think this was a case of evil.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Well, there's simply no question about that. And Michael, we're
saturated with it. If you take a look at our
streaming movie services and you go across all the platforms,
they are filled.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
They're not riddled. They're filled with.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Films that all have the same theme, vengeance and violence,
get even and kill people. And I'm going to call
some out by name, and there's some people that will
be disappointed. But the whole john Wick series is about
as rapidly out of control as anything that I have
ever seen come from American media. And it's wildly popular,
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and I guess the films are rated based on body counts.
These are not video games. We've lost touch with reality
and there are sequences. There are real consequences in human lives.
And again, people that want to live in the mystical
delusion that we do not live in a supernatural world
and that there are not there is not a force
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of good and evil are basically making the mistake of
thinking they're owners when we're all really renters. C. S.
Lewis talked about nature not being our mother, but being
our brother, that in reality all of us are immortal.
Nature is mortal. We will outlive Nature will also outlive
our bodies. And what we do here on earth and
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what we do for each other matters we're dealing.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Farious is the movie we were trying to think of.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It is one of the most profound, I think, most
brilliant movies. I'm convinced that the maker was a Christian
and it's basically telling you the Gospel from the perspective
of Satan.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
A film version of Screwtape letters, and again, we don't
want to talk about this stuff. We don't look at
it because it scares us and be them. We're also
we are all culpable, none of us. King Solomon said,
and anyone find a righteous man. The answer is no,
you find a faithful man of the answers. No, we
are all corrupted, fallen in this earth. We start in
a fallen state and we need help.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
We hate that because we live in a world that
is predicated upon autonomy being identity. You're not free until
you are completely free, and you're completely all on your own.
And we don't need God, we don't need parents, we
don't need laws, we don't need commandments.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We are autonomous beings. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
See how that's working on for and used to always
coin the phrase, you know, you lose God, you lose man.
Guess what you lose God, you lose man, you lose self.
I wonder we're in an identity crisis.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And you lose love, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
One of the greatest comments coming up out of the
Book of Genesis in the Hebrew Old Testament comes in
the question of canaan Abel and my brother am I
my brother's keeper?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Ten commandments is too much for us to handle.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
The Redeemer Jesus to Christ was very kind and boiling
it down to two love God, love your neighbor.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
And if we can't do those two things because we
don't believe them, we're still better off to do them
because they work better.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Alternative.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
We used to.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Always use the expression behind every headline as a story,
behind every story.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
There's so much to talk about and so much information,
so little understanding. It's important that we sort out narratives
from reality and truth. But boy, the New York Times
they get the award well.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Sounds to day.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know, I'm going to show you Jensaki, it's unbelievable.
She's literally doing what she's condemning as she's doing it.
That's breathtaking. But we've got other examples from the mayor
of Minneapolis to the governor and so on. But this headline,
Minneapolis suspect knew her target, motive a mystery, and I'm
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thinking you made the line. Oh, the only thing they
got right was Minneapolis. And I was like, let me
confirm they weren't on the line of Saint Paul, but
I mean suspect. Does anybody question saying that Robert Westman
did this but they referred to as her they took
their life. I mean the references to the holy grail
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of word, police motive a mystery, after what was written
all over the weapons and the ammunition, after the manifesto,
after the twenty minute video, there is anything but miss
How much blindfolds would you how many blindfolds would you
have to be worrying to miss this?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
And it's of course it makes sense because denial is
the only alternative because reality is staring you in the
face and it's horrible, and so what do you do
with that?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Now?
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Again, I want to be careful to make sure we
could take the litany of evil across these kinds of
violent outbreaks knows no political boundary, no ideological boundary. We
have people that have participated in this horror all across
the board. Because the devil doesn't care. He doesn't care
whether he's going to use conservatism or liberalism.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
He doesn't care. He's a great deceiver.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He'll use any tool that's made available, will even use
a little bit of truth and distortion.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
That's maybe one of the most effective weapons always. But again,
if we if we get a perfect example of denying
living in a moral supernatural world. Minneapolis. They got the
geography right. The suspect is dead with a weapon by
their side. It's pretty their own weapon. And with all
the eyewitnesses knew her target. Obviously they've decided to weigh
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in and make this a sexual issue. But but did
she even told? Did she even know what her target was?
What was she trying to kill? But motive is a mystery. Well,
all the motives right there. Plane is the nose on
all our faces. But denial is where the New York
Times lives.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I want to end in the most difficult place,
and that is if this is Covenant Nashville shooting all
over again, and the narrativization got it all wrong and
then quickly swept it away and ignored it. Same for Carolina.
Now Minneapolis, how do you stop next?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well it goes back to the question of am I
my brother's keeper? You know, I can't do anything about
Minneapolis today, But I can call my kids, I can
hug my wife, I can stop doing things that open
portals to evil, and I can be honest with my
neighbor and say, you know what, here's a real thought.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Getting stoned all the time is a bad idea. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, I am no further than I was about twenty
four hours ago that this act of evil violence against
children literally praying, kneeling and praying in church is not
a social debate. It's human tragedy. These kids and parents
need our prayers, not our opinions, especially until we have
all the facts. We have so many facts, and I'm
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just watching the media still play the same game and
it's disgusting.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, humility is hard to come by this morning.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
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The only difference with these movies and video games is
that most of us are well enough to understand that
these are movies and games and you have to be
able to distance yourself that and reality. And these kids
that are trans that are doing these things are not
distancing themselves.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
That's the difference. Well, yeah, Frank, you get it all right.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
So up until I want to say, eight years ago,
it might be more, but I think it was eight
years ago. It used to be called gender disorder. It
was a mental illness. But then the transgendered mob, mafia,
whatever you want to call it, gets to the psychiatric
community and then they change it to gender dysphoria. So
(33:34):
somewhere along the line, very relevant to this conversation, the
mayor of Minneapolis is wrong. This isn't me bullying transgenders.
This isn't me being hateful. This is a statement of
a reality and effect. What was once considered a mental
illness and disorder is now being portrayed as an affirmed
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virtue and norm. That's a big part of this story.
The other is evil. David Sanati kind of represented that,
and evil will play on the left team the right team.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
A portion of the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Complete envious and hate towards God and his creation. It
knows no boundaries, but the left can't acknowledge evil. They
think Donald Trump is evil. Anybody that watches this twenty
minute video and hears all these voices, sees everything written
on the guns and the ammunition and in the manifesto
and the utter guttural, utteral, demonic reaction to a picture
(34:40):
of Christ in the video, would say, oh that that
looks like evil. But you get all kinds of I
don't have time to do sounds that day. But this
is Jensaki. This is part of the problem. You don't
(35:00):
know the truth, Well, you'll fall for a lie. If
you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. And
the one side of the matrix has just fallen for
all of this. This is Jensaki talking to the mayor
of Minneapolis. Never Mind, you have a twenty three year
old born Robert Westman, who thinks he's a girl and
(35:21):
wants to go by Robin clearly hates God and all
of God's creation, especially Christians and Jews, but he got
a lot of other things, and completely fascinated was slaughtering
innocent children and anyone who had done in the past.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
And here's what she makes of it.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
It's just happened this morning and there's already been sort
of some effort which I think is so sick and
disgusting to weaponize some of the details.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
All right, So it's sick and disgusting to weaponize some
of the details. Watch how she is about to sick
and disgustingly weaponize some of the details. She's literally doing
what she's condemning from her blindside of the bubble, even if.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
We don't know a lot at this point in time,
and obviously the law enforcement in your city have been
keeping people abreast, including details about the individual possibly being
trans about the individual possibly having negative things to say
about Trump, all the problems that a lot of this
is just very early reporting. What do you do as
(36:25):
a leader of your city to prevent details from being
weaponized and using this to blame something other than the guns,
other than the.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Guns, of all the clues in the manifesto, of all
the writing on the weapons and weapons and ammunition, everything
said in the video kind of like that New York
Times story Minneapolis suspect knew her targets motive a mystery.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
In the left mind. Notice anything other than the gun,
and you're a part of the problem.
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and ten are dead, seventeen others wounded after a Catholic
school shooting, an act of evil in Minneapolis. Your morning show,
A national correspondent, Roy O'Neal is here with the very latest.
And there's so much to peruse, from the manifesto to
(01:23):
the video, to the messages on the weapons and the ammunition.
This particular shooter left no motive to doubt, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Right, an awful lot to unpacked though, And some of
those messages, as you said, things were written on the
ammo and the guns that were used in the attack
three guns in all, each of them purchased legally, a shotgun,
a rifle, and a pistol. All three were actually used
in the assault. Some of the messages that were posted
online and videos included images of either I didn't even
(01:55):
like to use manifesto.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It's sort of some rambling writings.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Most of it was apologies family members about what was
about to happen. So clearly they were aware that this
attack was going to cause a whole lot of pain
in that community.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Messages that were on the did you watch the entire
twenty minute video, very very disturbing. I would think, you know,
at some point anybody watching that, anybody who's watched that
or seen the movie the conjuring would say that there
was constant voices, some that were clearly him, some that
were like a voice within him talking to him. And
(02:31):
then the reaction he had at the picture of Christ
which he had superposed on a shooting target was rather disturbing.
But so were the things that were written. And there
was a theme to it, Where's your God? Where's your
effing God? Do you believe in God?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
Now?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Take this? You and Edith? And it was a mocking
of the Eucharis.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Six million wasn't enough a reference to the Holocaust, jew gas,
Israel must fall, burn, Israel killed? Donald Trump, New g India.
I mean, it was so many messages, but the really
clear things seemed to be religion, specifically Christ and Christians.
(03:11):
And we know he went to that school, though he
didn't he never made any reference to anything about going
to that school, as much as a hatred for God.
It's really interesting to try to put piece it together.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, no listing of the target or why that day
in particular, or why the church not the school itself,
you know, none of that or why children you know,
there were obviously the intended target here, no explanation about that.
It seemed to be, you know, the FBI is investigating
this is really an anti Catholic crime. Maybe that was
more the motivation here, but clearly, you know, Minnesota does
(03:46):
have red flag laws, but no one either sought to
use them was aware how they could be used, because
it's difficult to imagine how some red flags could have
been missed here.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, and the notion that these kids were in church
praying as the shots went off. An eight and ten
year old killed, seventeen others wounded. We have several they're
in critical condition. Do we have any updates on their
conditions this morning?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All of them are expected to recover, we know that
so or at least they are expected to survive their injuries.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
All right, Rory O'Neil, thanks so much for that. Rory's
gonna be back in the third hour we visit some
of this and then he also has a very interesting story.
New poll National Poll out deals with how Americans feel
about President Trump's policies, including deployment of the National Guard
in Washington again, like all polls, I don't know if
we're going to find out what the American people really
think or if what the matrix is effectively narrativeized. David
(04:42):
Sanati's a our senior contributor, and this is a senior
contributor moment if there ever was one, you know, I
put on Facebook immediately yesterday, just a reminder. This evil
act of violence against children who were literally praying is
not a social media event. It's a human tragedy. These
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kids and parents need our prayers and not opinions, especially
until we have all the facts. Please spend your time praying.
And that's how I spent my day as I watched
just the opposite happen, and really with the depth of journalism,
mainstream mainstream media that the left in Minnesota immediately went
after the guns, immediately went after Trump's policies of policing,
(05:27):
when the manifesto and the video and the weapons all
told a much different story. This was This was Covenant
Nashville shooting all over again.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
It's also the South Carolina church shooting all over again.
And here's why. Because evil knows no political boundaries or ideologies.
Evil is evil, and evil will utilize The forces of
evil will utilize any ideology, any race, any economic or
socioeconomics steps, any institution. Evil is evil, and our challenge
(06:02):
is a culture is the fact that we want to
live every day and denial of evil and evil cannot
be negotiated with. And when we negotiate with evil, death
is inevitable. And that's the harsh reality that no one
wants to hear it.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
So what is Robert Westman, even though he wanted to
be called Robin? What does he tell us in his
own words that he's transgender, that he's very depressed, very suicidal,
has decided he wants to kill innocent children before he
kills himself. In the twenty minute video, he has a
(06:38):
revolver that he claims is for him, and you literally
see him point it to like under the chin. It's
from his perspectives. You just see the muzzle going, you know,
it's on his chin. And then he makes comments. You
know people listening to the radio that go, oh, here
they go again with evil and Christianity.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Look, go watch that video.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
Oh Michael, you forgive me for interrupting esteemed hosts, But
the problem is not enough people are going to.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Talk about oh, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
True, But when you watch the video David and he
gets to Christ, a voice he hadn't used yet comes out,
and it sounds like it's straight from the Exorcist, straight
from the conjuring, and the reaction to the picture of
Jesus that he is superimposed over a shooting target, and
(07:26):
that reaction, this was evil.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
I'm telling you, this.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Kid, I don't I watched that. Is he mentally ill
or is he demon possessed? I would have guessed the
latter quite frankly. How does nobody notice that he's still
living at home?
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Nobody notices this?
Speaker 7 (07:39):
And we will attribute a lot of these things to
quote mental health, but we won't ask ourselves the question
of where does the mental health breakdown begin? And there
are multiple answers to that. Some of our mental health
questions in our culture are physiological.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Let's be very clear about that.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
People are some people are victims of mental health issuesetics, injuries,
et cetera. But then there are the things that we
do to each other, and then there are the things
that we do to ourselves. And the bottom line is
that evil is composite and it irrupts, and when it does,
we're all forced to take a look at it, and
it's shocking, it's horrible. We want to look away, and
(08:18):
we also want to come up with patterns and ways
to compartmentalize and dismiss and move on with our lives
because this scares the living daylights out of all us. Now,
I'll tell you what scares me just as much is
yesterday there was a woman who died after a road
rage incident was reported yesterday, absolutely meaningless road rage incident
(08:40):
in the southeastern the United States, where two people got
stupid on the highway. A pregnant woman was in the
vehicle where a bullet was fired into that vehicle killed her.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
And the baby was delivered alive.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
Oh, the baby was delivered. Yes, the baby was delivered alive.
How is that any less evil? The pattern of evil
is evil. This is what we do to each other.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I use this quote to start the show, and I'm
going to use it to start our conversation. Yes, believe
it or not, we haven't started yet, Jesse Waters. This
is from the transcript A suit and this is if
you watch the video, look at the I don't know
if you would call it a manifesto, but he thought
it was a manifesto, which he purposely filmed turned the
pages film. He wanted everybody to read this, And let
(09:24):
me tell you something. Law enforcement in the media couldn't
delete these things fast enough, but people captured them, and
so the video tells the whole story and you can't
narrativize your way out of it. Though that didn't stop
a Mare and others in Minnesota. But Jesse Waters basically
opens and says, a trans a suicidal transgender who hates Trump,
(09:45):
hates Christians and Jews, shoots up kids at a Catholic church.
And then media is focused on handguns. So how are
we supposed to protect ourselves from suicidal transgender who hate Trump,
Christians and Jews and want to shoot us up? The
media is bad at pattern recognition. Now it goes beyond that.
(10:06):
I think Jesse Waters probably gets it. Why is identity
such a key clue in this case? It was a
key clue in the Covenant shooting in Nashville, and it's out.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Why is this identity issue so big?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Well, and if you'll forgive me for one second, kind,
the identity issue is so big because it's misdiagnosed and misunderstood.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's just the rage of confusion.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Now I know we want answers, and we want to
compartmentalize the answers into saying, if this category is dealt with,
then it goes away.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
No evil knows no category, right, just.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Move on to the next one, just like they can
move on to the next weapon.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Right.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
And because evil will use religion as well as anti religion,
evil will use anything. If we want to get back
to reality, what we should do is spend a little
bit of time studying the Ten Commandments, the great Jewish
tradition of moral law, revealed the God, the creator of
the universe, and ask ourselves, how are we doing?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
We say, well, it's God a scorekeeper.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
No, God's already got the score, all right, and he's
already settled the score. That's why he sent a redeemer
to the world named Jesus Christ. The answer, however, is
how do we deal with evil? And when it comes
to the media, we have to be honest. We have
to be honest and say that every commercial network that
I am aware of makes money from things that hurt us,
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that fundamentally lead us into temptation. And that's why the
media is always looking for an answer and politicians are
always scurrying for something to blame because we can't afford
to blame ourselves because if we do, then we're morally culpable,
all of us.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
For how are we dealing with evil?
Speaker 6 (11:44):
So forgive me, but I want to pick on one
of those, and that is all right? So we look
at the tech commandments as a whole.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
If you're a culture and you turn a blind eye
to four or five of those, you're not capable of
then identifying one and stopping it. So, in other words,
can you really I mean, there's two ways to look
at evil. Right, there is a devil, and what do
(12:09):
you say? Resist the devil and he will flee. He's
already defeated, he's already conquered. Well, that's one way of
looking at it. But you're talking about these things, So
we turn a blind eye to how many of those
ten commandments? And then when it gets to murder we
suddenly want an answer. Well, I think the problem is
the lack of discipline in the other five that make
the sixth not that much giant double leap.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
And again we can do this by degrees, and everyone,
of course is going to have their particular.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Habit and tendency ignored.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Like I'd like to see the medicine cabinet of every
one of these shooters that we're talking about. I'd like
to see the medicine cabinets and the prescription drug situations
that all these folks have been dealing with. Because we
don't want to talk about the fact that that we're
drugging ourselves into incoherence and into depression and into worse places.
We don't talk about that there's too much money there.
(12:58):
And then it's not to say that all drugs are
bad or that they did that drugs do bad things.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
No, but we do bad things.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
I say this.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Everybody that watches that twenty minute video would say this
kid is soulless. He doesn't have human thoughts, emotions, or soul.
That could be a side effective multiple drugs for all
we know.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Well, it could also be the fact that words his father.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I don't think we know much about all the family pictures,
there is no father, just the mother.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
Worse Michael, because the more we have to look at this,
the more we have to look in the mirror. You know,
divorce has consequences, and I have very dear friends that
have been through divorce and are much better off today
than where they were, and I thank God that for that.
I'm not saying divorce is always absolutely wrong. What I'm
saying is a divorce culture that devalues marriage and makes
it casual like we're still dating in high school, especially
(13:47):
when there's kids involved, has consequences in human souls and
brokenness manifests itself in a culture that's surrounded by evils.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
If this is all being matrixed, the left wants to
present you guns, sure and hatred towards trans and a
president that's overstepping his presidential authority. The right wants to
hand you trans and mental illness. What should we do
in understanding this? What should our move be?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
For me?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Any move other than prayer seems worthless, beyond opinion, and
maybe even still a little premature, even though we have
a lot more facts. We'll ask David that question. We
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This is your morning show with Michael del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It is day all over again. The Covenant National shooting,
ignored by the media, just repeated itself in Minneapolis. David Zanati,
our senior contributors here, I struggle on days like this
because I'm still in shut up. The only thing that
makes any sense is prayer. The only thing that can
make any difference in those kids' lives there, anybody at
that church's life, is to pray a God that can
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actually go and heal them and do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
You know, my opinion, could never do.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's just so hard to say anything because it almost
feels like you're being a.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Part of the problem. I have mercy on America.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah, got to mercy on our souls now, Michael, grieving
is appropriate and silence is appropriate, and and of course
we're all looking for patterns we all own resolve the problem. Look,
this is a moral problem of the universe. We didn't
invent it. We're not going to fix it. The answers
not at the bottom of a of a test tube.
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It's not at the bottom of a prescription. This is
a question of the soul.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
One of the things that may have failed is red
flag laws, because someone this mentally ill was certainly taking
certain drugs and he couldn't be what he was in
twenty minutes in that video and then look normal living
in that house or moving about that community.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
How did those fail? We'll talk more about it when
we come back.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
David Sanati our senior contributor, and I have one other
story I wanted to kind of run by you as well.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
This is Richard from Plovilla, Georgia, and my morning show
is your Morning Show with Michael dale Giorno.
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Hi, I'm Michael.
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you're here. Now, enjoy the podcast Morning. Thanks for taking
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Michael del Jornam. This is Thursday, August the twenty eighth.
Of course, the big story is two children are dead,
eight and ten years old. Seventeen others injured, although all
expected to recover after an evil shooting at a Catholic
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school and church in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Senior contributor David Snati
is joining us. I'm trying to remember the name of
that movie and it's driving me crazy, But just to
kind of summarize this particular kid, it goes beyond just transgendered.
He's Robert Westman wanted to be called Robin. So you
have transgenderedism in this issue. If you watch any of
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the video that he made and the delight I turned
that video off and my thought was, he hates God.
I don't even think there's a human being on earth
capable of hating God as much as this kid. Only
Lucifer and his band of demons would hate God and
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hate God's creation.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Remember that's what satan is.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It's mostly beyond a jealousy, an envy that God would
love something that didn't earn it, or a created being.
And that all comes out in this kid. Now his
hate for Christ is clearest, but also the creation Christians, Jews, Indians.
I mean, he had something for every one of God's
creations and ethnicities.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
But this was.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Clearly sick, yes, but it was also very evil, even
different voiced utterances. And there's one telling moment, David, when
he gets to the children and the delight, I mean,
the hysterical delight.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
In killing the innocent children.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
That's the kind of thing evil wants to do, knowing
it's the ultimate pain to cause. And you're saying, that's
our blind spot. We'll discuss everything but evil, even in
the matrix today. We'll discuss transgenderatism, we'll discuss mental illness.
On the left, they'll discuss guns, they'll discuss Trump, but
no one will discuss evil.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
And I really think this was a case of evil.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Well, there's simply no question about that. And Michael, we're
saturated with it. If you take a look at our
streaming movie services and you go across all the platforms,
they are filled.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
They're not riddled. They're filled with.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Films that all have the same theme, vengeance and violence,
get even and kill people. And I'm going to call
some out by name, and there's some people that will
be disappointed. But the whole john Wick series is about
as rapidly out of control as anything that I have
ever seen come from American media. And it's wildly popular,
(20:52):
and I guess the films are rated based on body counts.
These are not video games. We've lost touch with reality
and there are sequences. There are real consequences in human lives.
And again, people that want to live in the mystical
delusion that we do not live in a supernatural world
and that there are not there is not a force
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of good and evil are basically making the mistake of
thinking they're owners when we're all really renters. C. S.
Lewis talked about nature not being our mother, but being
our brother, that in reality all of us are immortal.
Nature is mortal. We will outlive Nature will also outlive
our bodies. And what we do here on earth and
(21:33):
what we do for each other matters we're dealing.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
Farious is the movie we were trying to think of.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It is one of the most profound, I think, most
brilliant movies. I'm convinced that the maker was a Christian
and it's basically telling you the Gospel from the perspective
of Satan.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
A film version of Screwtape letters, and again, we don't
want to talk about this stuff. We don't look at
it because it scares us and be them. We're also
we are all culpable, none of us. King Solomon said,
and anyone find a righteous man. The answer is no,
you find a faithful man of the answers. No, we
are all corrupted, fallen in this earth. We start in
a fallen state and we need help.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
We hate that because we live in a world that
is predicated upon autonomy being identity. You're not free until
you are completely free, and you're completely all on your own.
And we don't need God, we don't need parents, we
don't need laws, we don't need commandments.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
We are autonomous beings. Guess what.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
See how that's working on for and used to always
coin the phrase, you know, you lose God, you lose man.
Guess what you lose God, you lose man, you lose self.
I wonder we're in an identity crisis.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And you lose love, you know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
One of the greatest comments coming up out of the
Book of Genesis in the Hebrew Old Testament comes in
the question of canaan Abel and my brother am I
my brother's keeper?
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Ten commandments is too much for us to handle.
Speaker 7 (22:49):
The Redeemer Jesus to Christ was very kind and boiling
it down to two love God, love your neighbor.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
And if we can't do those two things because we
don't believe them, we're still better off to do them
because they work better.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Alternative.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
We used to.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Always use the expression behind every headline as a story,
behind every story.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
There's so much to talk about and so much information,
so little understanding. It's important that we sort out narratives
from reality and truth. But boy, the New York Times
they get the award well.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Sounds to day.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
You know, I'm going to show you Jensaki, it's unbelievable.
She's literally doing what she's condemning as she's doing it.
That's breathtaking. But we've got other examples from the mayor
of Minneapolis to the governor and so on. But this headline,
Minneapolis suspect knew her target, motive a mystery, and I'm
(23:48):
thinking you made the line. Oh, the only thing they
got right was Minneapolis. And I was like, let me
confirm they weren't on the line of Saint Paul, but
I mean suspect. Does anybody question saying that Robert Westman
did this but they referred to as her they took
their life. I mean the references to the holy grail
(24:10):
of word, police motive a mystery, after what was written
all over the weapons and the ammunition, after the manifesto,
after the twenty minute video, there is anything but miss
How much blindfolds would you how many blindfolds would you
have to be worrying to miss this?
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (24:27):
And it's of course it makes sense because denial is
the only alternative because reality is staring you in the
face and it's horrible, and so what do you do
with that?
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Now?
Speaker 7 (24:37):
Again, I want to be careful to make sure we
could take the litany of evil across these kinds of
violent outbreaks knows no political boundary, no ideological boundary. We
have people that have participated in this horror all across
the board. Because the devil doesn't care. He doesn't care
whether he's going to use conservatism or liberalism.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
He doesn't care. He's a great deceiver.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
He'll use any tool that's made available, will even use
a little bit of truth and distortion.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
That's maybe one of the most effective weapons always. But again,
if we if we get a perfect example of denying
living in a moral supernatural world. Minneapolis. They got the
geography right. The suspect is dead with a weapon by
their side. It's pretty their own weapon. And with all
the eyewitnesses knew her target. Obviously they've decided to weigh
(25:29):
in and make this a sexual issue. But but did
she even told? Did she even know what her target was?
What was she trying to kill? But motive is a mystery. Well,
all the motives right there. Plane is the nose on
all our faces. But denial is where the New York
Times lives.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So I want to end in the most difficult place,
and that is if this is Covenant Nashville shooting all
over again, and the narrativization got it all wrong and
then quickly swept it away and ignored it. Same for Carolina.
Now Minneapolis, how do you stop next?
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well it goes back to the question of am I
my brother's keeper? You know, I can't do anything about
Minneapolis today, But I can call my kids, I can
hug my wife, I can stop doing things that open
portals to evil, and I can be honest with my
neighbor and say, you know what, here's a real thought.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Getting stoned all the time is a bad idea. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well, I am no further than I was about twenty
four hours ago that this act of evil violence against
children literally praying, kneeling and praying in church is not
a social debate. It's human tragedy. These kids and parents
need our prayers, not our opinions, especially until we have
all the facts. We have so many facts, and I'm
(26:47):
just watching the media still play the same game and
it's disgusting.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, humility is hard to come by this morning.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
David Sanata, you can hear his great work at the
Public Square dot com. He hosts The Public Square on
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Speaker 6 (27:02):
Also CEO on the America Policy Roundtable. Thank you, David.
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Speaker 6 (27:53):
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Reports, Assembly Republican leader James Gallagher argues it will improve
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And those forgotten people, mostly in the inland counties of
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They have no voice, and in fact, now.
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Even worse, their representation could be completely stripped by the
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Speaker 11 (32:48):
The only difference with these movies and video games is
that most of us are well enough to understand that
these are movies and games and you have to be
able to distance yourself that and reality. And these kids
that are trans that are doing these things are not
distancing themselves.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
That's the difference. Well, yeah, Frank, you get it all right.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
So up until I want to say, eight years ago,
it might be more, but I think it was eight
years ago. It used to be called gender disorder. It
was a mental illness. But then the transgendered mob, mafia,
whatever you want to call it, gets to the psychiatric
community and then they change it to gender dysphoria. So
(33:34):
somewhere along the line, very relevant to this conversation, the
mayor of Minneapolis is wrong. This isn't me bullying transgenders.
This isn't me being hateful. This is a statement of
a reality and effect. What was once considered a mental
illness and disorder is now being portrayed as an affirmed
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virtue and norm. That's a big part of this story.
The other is evil. David Sanati kind of represented that,
and evil will play on the left team the right team.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
A portion of the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Complete envious and hate towards God and his creation. It
knows no boundaries, but the left can't acknowledge evil. They
think Donald Trump is evil. Anybody that watches this twenty
minute video and hears all these voices, sees everything written
on the guns and the ammunition and in the manifesto
and the utter guttural, utteral, demonic reaction to a picture
(34:40):
of Christ in the video, would say, oh that that
looks like evil. But you get all kinds of I
don't have time to do sounds that day. But this
is Jensaki. This is part of the problem. You don't
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know the truth, Well, you'll fall for a lie. If
you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. And
the one side of the matrix has just fallen for
all of this. This is Jensaki talking to the mayor
of Minneapolis. Never Mind, you have a twenty three year
old born Robert Westman, who thinks he's a girl and
(35:21):
wants to go by Robin clearly hates God and all
of God's creation, especially Christians and Jews, but he got
a lot of other things, and completely fascinated was slaughtering
innocent children and anyone who had done in the past.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
And here's what she makes of it.
Speaker 13 (35:37):
It's just happened this morning and there's already been sort
of some effort which I think is so sick and
disgusting to weaponize some of the details.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
All right, So it's sick and disgusting to weaponize some
of the details. Watch how she is about to sick
and disgustingly weaponize some of the details. She's literally doing
what she's condemning from her blindside of the bubble, even if.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
We don't know a lot at this point in time,
and obviously the law enforcement in your city have been
keeping people abreast, including details about the individual possibly being
trans about the individual possibly having negative things to say
about Trump, all the problems that a lot of this
is just very early reporting. What do you do as
(36:25):
a leader of your city to prevent details from being
weaponized and using this to blame something other than the guns,
other than the.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Guns, of all the clues in the manifesto, of all
the writing on the weapons and weapons and ammunition, everything
said in the video kind of like that New York
Times story Minneapolis suspect knew her targets motive a mystery.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
In the left mind. Notice anything other than the gun,
and you're a part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
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