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Next half hour.
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David Dukovney, Well you know him from X Files Californification.
I thought he was terrific in what was the movie
Return to Me with Minnie Driver? Well, an all star cast,
quite frankly, but did you know he's a writer. First,
before he ever acted, before he ever directed, His mother
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was a writer. He's a writer. And when you've done
everything from movies to television shows to books. One of
my favorites, of which I cannot pronounce on the air completely,
I'll just say Bucky Dent, which is going to be
made into a movie. You only have poetry left. And
that's exactly what he's out with. It's called about time poetry.
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David Dukovney joins this next half hour. The President, you know,
obviously very right before, we didn't get much sounds of
the day in, but literally scolding a reporter.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I want to play that for you one more time.
Listen you say that, and.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Let's say two.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't listen, be quiet, listen.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You don't listen.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
You never listen.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's why you're second grade. We're not going to war.
We're going to clean up our city. We're going to
clean them.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Up so they don't kill five people every weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Donald Trump scolding a NBC reporter. Chris Walker is a
Republican consultant's also your morning show contributor weekly and he's
joining us.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
This one's tough.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know, this is a president trying to explain the
difference between protecting American citizens and you know, using his
military for war on city streets. Clearly it runs through
the matrix. The left calls it out of control, the
right calls it common sense. Is this a winnable argument?
The real argument should be why are not mayors of
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cities prioritizing public safety and doing their job. They should
be getting fired, they should be prioritizing police, and they
should be restoring law and order in their cities. That's
the ultimate solution. And you know what, both sides are
at fault for never bringing that up.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah. Absolutely, Good morning, Michael, And I mean I think
the president obviously has a John taste to make by
looking at what's happened in Washington. You know, have the
National Gardens hair and crime rates have been, you know,
at all time lows, in part because you're showing that,
you know, having a having a presence decreased his crime.
The problem on the on the long haul with National
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Guard is a short term and it's not going to
be a long term solution. You have to have police
forces and at some level, you know, you're going to
have to have a local leadership buy in and that's
something that's been interesting. You know, Muriel Bowser, the mayor
of Washington, d C. Has been very you know, uh,
affusive of his rais and President Trump is saying, hey,
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this has helped our city. The problem is you have
mayors of Chicago and other cities saying we don't want
this because they see some political fight rather than actually
taking care of their citizens, which is crazy. It's you know,
they're like, we saw the mayor of Charlotte, but the
stabbing and the h on the subway, there is that
basically saying hey, well let's think about the you know,
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the perpetrator or rather than the victim. There's a broken
system here from some of our municipal leaders and it's
something that needs to be addressed. They have they let
President Trump break their brain so much that they're willing
to accept the level of crime rather than work with
him to try to solve it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I I'll give you the bromne analogy. When you have
a chikuzzie, you can use chlorine or bromine. I choose bromine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There is a bromine shock treatment that will get the
SPA level immediately, so that your bromine that is this
kind of floating around can then take over and maintain things. Uh,
some of these cities and not just the big ones
like Chicago, Memphis, Tennessee number one with twenty five and
one violent crime rate, California, Oakland, Detroit, Michigan. Saint Louis,
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Missouri is eighth. A lot of your morning show cities
Nashvillists thirteenth, Tulsa, Oklahoma's eighteenth. A lot of these cities
need some brawl, mind, just to get things under control,
and then a municipality that will prioritize police and law
enforcement to take it from there. But I guess the
difference is it has to be welcome, right, otherwise it's political.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think that's right. I don't think it is a
long term winner to try to to force this issue
over the long haul in a place that has obviously
chosen poor leadership over time. And again it's it's short term.
You can't have the guard there forever. It's not a
policing solution. It works in the short term, but again
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you have to have police and local leadership actually take
take a leadership role and say we're going to address
this issue.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
So far, the Democrats have chosen to take the side
of the criminals. And you know that's something that they're
going to need to pay at.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
The ballot box, that these cities are actually going to improve.
It's something we need to see happening.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Chris Walker joining us all Things Republican this Monday morning.
We did a little research. This is kind of food
for thought. There's a big story about the autopen and
Joe Biden and some of the Rush and we don't
know who did it, why, or if anybody was vetted,
but a lot of Rush pardons and clemencies as they
were leaving office, some probably even while he was in
the limo with Trump on his way to the inauguration.
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But you go back to auto pen and you'll find
it was first used by Harry Truman, a Democrat, but
for minor things, and very minor things. In fact, no
modern president ever used autopen for any bill or any
big decision. Even Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton would have
bills flown to them to sign in person. Was until
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Barack Obama and maybe mastered and abused by whoever was
really running the White House during the Joe Biden fake presidency.
Should we be concerned with any president using national guard
in our cities. Even if today it's to save lives,
what it could be used and abused as down the road,
Like the difference between Truman and Biden with the auto pen.
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I mean, I think that ought to be a concern too.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know, I look at everything through a prism of
do I want this? When I oppose who's in the leadership,
And in cases like this, I find myself looking at
some of these solutions and saying, no, what do I
want a president AOC scenario? And folks that kind of
think that there's never going to be a Democrat that
wins an election again is not studying history.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
What we've done is train in an environment where.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We have a very very.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Powerful executive that is continuing to kind of use its
sole power rather than having to invoke Congress and other things.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
In the process.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
I don't like those precedents. So ultimately, separation of power
is important, and I think it's key that we want
to make sure that there is division of power and
not just one unilateral executive power structure. So no, I
don't think at the end of the day, I want
AOC being able to, you.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Know, send the garden into confiscating God is entirely something
that they would want to potentially do downline, and would
use Trump of the justification.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
To do it exactly. That's that's my concern.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is a This sounds like another rasmussm poll. But
and take it with a grain of salt. It may
be true, it may not be true. But if it
is true, most under forty voters favor socialism. I did
a whole journey of discovery in the first hour. If
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meaningful one on one times we've ever spent together on
(08:29):
your morning show. But I looked at hope, which comes
from God, optimism, which is a function of the mind
and characterized by an economic confidence or an American dream confidence.
One is eternal, one is not, one is mind, One
is heart and soul. One is a living God who's
endless and his resources. The other is a government thirty
eight trillion dollars in depth. Trust me, it's a great
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journey of discovery.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Go take it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
But clearly they have done a good job of indoctrinating
our kids from common education to hire a education from cartoons,
to sitcoms, to movies, to news, to social media, and
now fifty three percent of likely voters eighteen to thirty
nine would like to see a Democratic Socialist candidate in
twenty twenty eight. To your point, not only is AOC
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going to be the early front runner, unless the DNC
gets involved like it did three times to avoid Bernie Sanders,
it could win their nomination and then down the road
maybe even win the presidents the I don't think it's
ever going to come to that, but this is what
speaks to what Donald Trump has done to address the wokeness,
to address the universities, to address education, and elimination of
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the Department of Education. Oh don't you get a sense
that Donald Trump's greatest legacy will not be the border
when it's all said and done.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
You know, this is one of the most conservative administrations
in our lifetime, and the results that we're seeing are
very positive. Now, what I would like to see a
pot heighten in the law. We need Congress to bob
and do more long term you know.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Bill signing rather than executive orders.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I mean, look, we were against executive orders and Barack
Obama was president they're not they're.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Not long term solutions, and so it's great for President
Trump to have them.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
We also need laws to actually kind of you know
establishment over the long Hall. So it's up to Congress
to stop being spectators and be more you know, leaders
in terms of how these policies are going to be
an acted over the long hall.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Closing moments Chris Walker closing moments Chris Walker, Republican consultant
and Your Warning Show contributed. Well, that leads us nicely
into my biggest question of the day and toughest question
of the day. Donald Trump is, in no question has
damaged the media as a product. I mean, he is
out at it. He has defeated media bias. Journalism is dead.
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He has been a major blow to the Democrat Party
and they've been a big blow to themselves and they're
in fighting. But when he leaves office, where does he
leave the Republican brand? After all, he is the brand,
not the Republican Party. It was an orange wave, not
a red wave. Could he be also equally as damaging
to Republicans as he was to Democrats?
Speaker 5 (11:11):
You know, we talked about this a little bit over
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I think, I think, really the question becomes, do parties
adapt after a whoever whoever takes it over?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
I mean, the Democrats were in dis arrandom Bill Clinton
came along.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
You know that Reagan was the Republican Party, and then
we were kind.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Of in the wilderness for a few years during the
Clinton years.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And so I think parties adapt to whoever takes over.
This is a Bush Party and now it's a Trump Party,
and but Reagan Party.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't mean forgive me for interrupting, but I'm looking
at the clock.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Reagan created a revolution that was far more impactful than
his eight years in office, and the benefit of that
was a conservative takeover of the Republican Party. If there
is a Trump revolution, it's not a Republican benefit necessarily.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And I think it really depends on how this hand
is handled.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I agree, But you know, I think there's going to
be a primary. I'm not convinced that Jade Vance is
definitely going.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
To get it. No matter what happens.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
You know, there's going to be a debate and a
discussion about where what our values are and what trump
Ism is. And you know, there's already disagreements on international
foreign policy and domestic policy. On how how strong to
take it. So, I mean, while while it's it's certainly
revolving around.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
President Trump completely right now, I think as he you know,
steps back and.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
From a from his second term and somebody takes over,
you know, the party will adapt to who that person is.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's just it's how it works.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Parties have been incredibly weakened since became fine gold, and
so you know, generally speaking, there responding to kind of
media and donor pressure more than they are just party
party leadership pressure. So parties have become more and more
irrelevant as campaign finance has made them more and more
reliant on you know, outside money.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Rather than actual influences in the party.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
So yeah, because that's whoever their their standard bearer is,
You're not having much of a chance to a Jeff
Bush or a Nikki Hayley or any other establishment Democrat.
Oh no, But I mean there's good leaders in the
in the you know, we have DeSantis, we have you
know when Younkin.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
We have you know a lot of a lot of
people who you.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Know Ruby, you know jd Vance.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I mean, there's going to be a lot of people
who who are going to want to take the.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Next to take the next step, and so you know
the President will obviously have his say.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
On all of that right now, but you know.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
There's a lot of people that are going to decide
whe where is the paraty going, What does it mean
to be concerned, what does it mean to be republica,
what does it mean to be maga? And all that
stuff will come with President Trump's blessing, but also with
you know, other people having different ideas around it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So well, in honor of the great first week of
the NFL, I use a football analogy. You can't give
the guy the ball to run and he can't break
a touchdown until the handoff is clean. It's all going
to come down to who they hand the hand the
future to. As the president yeah, wraps up his second later.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
All right, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We'll talk again next Monday or sooner if conditions warrant.
I love you, my brother, you brother, I have a
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Half hour David Duchovney. You know him from the X Files.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Golden Globe winner, multiple Emmy nominated actor. He's an author
and now he's out with the book of poetry about Time.
It's really about life and how it can rough you up.
More on that next half hour. President Trump's borders are
Tom Holman says Americans can expect more workplace immigration rates
just like the one in George at the Hyundai plant
last week.
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That's what he told CNN Sunday, also saying that hiring
illegal workers as a crime and undercuts competition that's paying
US citizens. Homan's comments come after Immigration and Customs enforcement
agents arrested hundreds of people Thursday at the Electric Battery plant,
most of whom were South Koreans here illegally. The South
Korean government was able to reach a deal with the
Trump administration for the release and return of the detained
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migrant workers.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
President Trump has issued what he calls a last warning
to Hama surging, the Palestinian militant group accept that deal
with Israel and release those hostages. The trial of the
man accused attempting to assassinate the President Florida starts today.
South Korean's foreign minister visits the US today to help
bring home three hundred Korean workers who are arrested for
working illegally. And football has the Bears and the Vikings tonight.
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than never enjoyed the podcast. I had a wonderful week
off vacation MBTs. We're a small group of three man
putting this whole show on, and I hadn't had a
time off since Christmas.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't think Jeffrey, other than a.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Colonoscopy's had any and Red hasn't had his yet, but
that it's coming for both of them in the coming weeks.
But my appreciation of Chris Krot for filling in and
doing a terrific job, and you two for working so
hard while I was gone. It's so important to get rest,
you know. I think of the old days of disc jockeys.
Just about the time you're really loving a song, the
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guy who's playing him every day is sick and tired
of it. It's burnt out and you're not playing it
enough until the DJ's disgusted by it. And the same
can happen and talk radio, but even worse, you can
get sucked into some of these cycles and narratives. It's
just nice to get away and rest and get your
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perspective back. And speaking of that shameless plug for our
first hour today, if you missed it, go back and
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show online dot com or on your iHeartRadio app. Our
journey of discovery was on how the majority of eighteen
to thirty nine year olds are actually seeking a socialist government,
and I get into an in depth journey of discovery
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on hope and optimism. The youth have neither, and they
have us to thank for it, the things that we allowed.
That more on the podcast when you go listen to that.
I did make one exception, and that was even on
my vacation to come in to interview David d'comney because
I had something very special I wanted to say to him,
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but also because I've been a big fan. And what
you don't realize is he was an author long before
he was an actor or a director. He's a writer,
and we'll talk about his latest work, the one that
I had read. I can't even say the title other
than Bucky Dent.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Wow. Let me ask you. Do you have in your
possession in your library the poetry of Phil Rizzuto?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Is it good?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's he never wrote a poem, but these these crazy
authors kind of chose his most surreal chunks of announcing
and turned them into poetry. And it's it's wonderful. I
highly recommend that it's called Holy Cow.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Oh, holy Cow. Well, we'll add that to the Bucky
Dent collection. I can't even give that title.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Over the year.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You know how much do I love David Cumpany And
I told my producer this, He's like, what are you doing?
It's your vacation, because I've always wanted to catch up
with you and look you in the eye and tell
you one thing. If you asked me the greatest actor
in a scene I've ever witnessed in my life, it's
you in return to me at the door with the
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dog after your wife dies, David Dukov, I've seen everybody.
I mean, I could go back to James Jimmy Cagney,
I can go, I can do anybody, Tom Hey, anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
De Niro.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
That was the best acting I've ever seen in my life.
I don't know how you did it, but you should
have want an oscar just for that scene by the door.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You were terrific.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I just you know, I don't remember it. I don't
remember it. It's a long time ago, but I will
say that I love that movie. And Bonnie Hunt, who's
the writer director of that, a Chicago native, yep is
just a wonderful, wonderful person and actor and writer and director.
And I'm always always wanting more of Bonnie Hunt. And
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that's a you know, that's a little gem that movie.
I think that's that's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You're probably standing around all day it's time to shoot
that scene and you have to bring grief, death, life,
loss to life. You should go back and watch it.
You were amazing, all right. So you a two time
Golden Globe Award winner, four time Emmy Award winner, five novels.
I was going through all three studio albums. I've gone
through all this and you know, when it came to conclusion,
you had to do poems.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That was all that was left. That was it, right?
The only thing you hadn't done yet. It wasn't gonna
be pottery.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
That could be next, don't spend. I love the cover too.
By the way, were you changing?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's what is that?
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You supposedly looking like? Life is rough? Jee up? And
your weather? That's what your homeleest.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because I'm telling you something. You got to see me
in the morning. I'd scare them away.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That was We took that picture a few years ago
when when I was on tour doing music and there
was a there was a guy who had wanted to
take my picture and he had an odd process that
I didn't quite understand. But I saw his other photos
and they were cool, just like this one. That's he
only did portraits, So I uh, I asked to do it,
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and you know, I wasn't. I was like, that's why.
You know what I thought when I saw it?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Looks like you're sitting on a stool in your corner
in the fourteenth round of a championship fight.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So I don't think you're winning. Just well, that's life,
isn't it. I just need a little sweat.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
But it's David. The Company's joining us. I'd be probably
known from X Files, Californication. I just brought up Return
to Me out of the Blue, terrific actor, author novels.
I could do all the little questions like they do
in radio. The difference the transition from from acting to writing,
or from from novels to poetry. I don't care about anybody.
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This is about life and whether you believe in God
or not, I do. But whatever he's shown you over
the long you know, journey, marathon of life or whatever
life is thrown at you.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Because we're all right where we're at.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But the choices we made and our response to circumstances
that were out of our control.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's what's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And the title, the double on todra of about time poems,
it really is, this is about everything you've kind of witnessed, get,
don't get or not right?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, I mean that's kind of what. When I sit
down to write a poem, it's really this idea that
I'm barely understanding something that's bothering me, that it keeps
on arising in some form a turn or phrase or whatever,
and so I write the poem to try to understand it,
and of course I never do, but I get this thing.
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That's an attempt. And in the attempt, and again to
talk about failure in the attempt, in the failure to
say this thing which ultimately can't be said, there's beauty
in that and the almost, the almost. It's like it's
just like just like a lighter in the dark, you know,
I just I think so. I mean, it's not popular
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to say, because we live in a culture that says,
you know, you can have it all, and you can
understand it all, and you can you have it all
in your back pocket. But yeah, for me, it's all
about the attempt and to keep on being curious, and
to keep on on asking the questions, and to keep
on marking the changes because we change as people.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I don't want to get at all over philosophical or political.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I think, well, I know, but it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So thrilling to be with you.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
But but the truth of the matter is you probably
had to resist. We live in a culture right now
that can google anything now, AI anything. Who knows what's next? David.
The key to life, One of the keys to life
I have found is curiosity. You can't achieve intelligence without curiosity.
You can't achieve humor without curiosity, you can't achieve any
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electric Is curiosity going to be a threat with all
of this technology? Or how about this culture where everybody
has to have an immediate firm position either on shirts
or skins. Life is so not black and white. It's
so not shirts and skins. It's so not knowing at all.
It's realizing every day, just when you think you know something,
you know nothing. Well, I think you know, just it's
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just a seize on one thing that you said.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I think it's dangerous to have the phones and to
have Google that has the answers to everything. I think
that that kills curiosity a little bit, or it kills
the desire to know things right. And it's not just
knowing facts and figures. It's not just wrote memorization. But
the more you know, the more it gets jumbled up
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in your head, the more it kind of it kind
of plays off against other things you know. So it's
not the same. I know, I know I've got all
the answers in my pocket if I need them, but
I take pride in actually having them some of the
answers in my head as well.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
One of the things you wrote, and this wasn't from
reading the actual copy they sent me. This was just
from like the pr piece. But yeah, poetry is not useful,
which is exactly why we need it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh my gosh, put that one.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Write that one right on the wall, right over the wallpaper.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
What did you mean by that? I mean, I think
I get it, but yeah, I mean it's it's kind
of a poetic line, I guess. So I don't know
that I know what I mean so specifically, but it's
something in the ballpark of you know, this is somebody
once said the best thing about writing poetry is that
you can't make money at it. You know, like nobody,
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nobody makes money as a poet. So it's along those
lines of you know, this isn't in order to this
isn't for something, This is just something in and of itself.
And I go back, you know, you said you're a
religious person, and I go back to just the famous,
the famous line in the Bible about the lilies of
the field. You know, they don't work, They are just
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there and they are just beautiful because they are just there.
They toil not neither do they spend spinning me you know,
worry or you know, have anxiety. So that's kind of
what I see a poem as like a I don't
want to say like a flower, because that sounds like
that's the kind of poems that I write, which they're not.
I don't, but that's the idea.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It's like the section that was reading where you're just
what is I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I mean last time I wrote poems was to woo
my wife, right I say that in the introduction.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, and then like the dog that catches the car,
I don't write them anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
But I always thought they had to rhyme. They don't.
There's no rhyme. There's no reason. And after a while,
once I let go of that, there was something.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Beautiful David in if you look at like I mean,
whoever looks opens up a book and sees the chapter
titles almost just look at the chapter titles because I'm
curious about you because I love your work.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I don't know you, but I love your work and
I want to know you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
So I'm looking at those titles in search of what's
going on in David's heart, what's going on in David's mind,
what's happened in David's life That isn't in tabloids, that's
in the dark place, And I mean the titles almost
tell the story. Then you read the stories. Then they
don't go from point A to B. Sometimes and sometimes
just like our day that starts with stubbing the toe
and spilling the coffee. Sometimes it was just and you're right,
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you have to look at the entire about time poems
and almost digest it one meal, because that's the beauty
of it.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Does that make sense? Did I say anything that makes
sense whatsoever? Because I'm not a poet, it does.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I mean, I take the titles very seriously. I take
them as almost like a key, like have this key
both in a door and a key in music, Like Okay,
this is this is the key of this poem, this title,
this is. Just have that in your mind as you
begin reading it. As far as as reading it as
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a as a whole meal, I think it's hard too,
because it's not a narrative, and poems are dense, you know,
they take some work.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, you would want to read them in pond. I'm
just saying, but it's not over till it's over and
you've had it all, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yes, Yeah, I mean I hope it's a you know,
a coherent volume in that way.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah, because it's the opposite of the way we live,
which is to put on a mask in every situation
or to pear. We always have it understood and going on,
and we don't, and we're all you'll get the reality
all of us are living, i think, somewhat in the dark,
figuring it out.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Hopefully we don't get tired of figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Hopefully we don't get tired of failing and overcoming our failures.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, I think that's one of the you know, one
of the things that is scary to me to go
out with a book of poems, where it's not scary
to go out with another show or a film, is
it's sincere. You know, I'm sincerely trying to make sense
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of things. So sincerity is very dangerous feeling, you know.
It's not ironic.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
About time a book of poems from a Golden Globe actor,
Emmy Award winning TV actor, He's already written five novels.
Obviously it's a Yankee fan. I'm gonna lead towards Bucky
Den and now into poetry after albums. It does beg
the question what might be next? David Dukova there's nothing
else I can do.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, I like these things that I do, and
you know, they often come back to words, you know,
which was probably my first impulse to of like, you know,
my dad was a writer, and his dad was writer.
My mom was a teacher. So I think it's really
getting back to my roots. When I'm writing, I want
to see it back on the screen.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I love it. I love what you bring.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I got something in October coming out on Amazon called Malice,
and then you know, I'm still I don't know if
you saw the movie of Bucky.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
It's called Reverse the Curse. Yes, they changed the name. Yeah, listen,
I am. I am the least you could run poetry by.
And I enjoyed reading every single one of them. And
there's very few people I don't even know who else
that on my vacation. I'm not missing the opportunity. And
I meant it, David when I said that, I go
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back and watch that movie return to me down ensemble
cast from from the Old Guys, which was like a
separate movie at.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Carl O'Connor, Robert those are all like.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
A who's who that are gone now I know the
movie is an absolute well, actually Jim Belushy's character.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
That's how I raised my kids.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
That's what our houstbands like.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, and you at you at the door after your
wife's death as one of the most brilliant pieces of ack.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I'll go back and I'll look at that because I
haven't thought of that in years.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh my gosh, you remember, You'll remember the fat Italian
that you did an interview with that knew nothing about
poetry but told you to go back. That's your greatest moment.
You'd be really acted beautifully. David du Covenany loved your
workover lifetime. People are going to love your poetry. The
name of the book about Time Holmes by David Ducopany.
Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Thanks
for interrupting your vacation for me.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Oh it was worth it. What a thoughtful guy.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And coming in October Malice to Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Can't wait for that.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's your morning show with Michael del Jorno.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Is Jebbi from Arizona.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
You just mentioned my very favorite movie of all time,
Return to Me, and I'm so glad you mentioned it
because it's so good.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
The whole cast is just amazing. Thanks again, I wad
you have enjoyed your vacation.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, and I didn't know until I visited with David
Ducoveny that Bonnie wrote that she is one of my
favorites from Chicago.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah. Great movie and check out his poetry. I think
you'll like it all.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Right, Maryland Governor Wes Moore, I'm taking with a grain
of salt ruling out a presidential run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's a little early and a lot of music playing
this morning.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Rick Davies, the co founder of super Tramp, has died
at the age of eighty one after a long battle
with cancer. Davies and Roger Hodgson founded the British band
in nineteen sixty nine. Supertramp rose to worldwide fame in
the seventies and breakthrough album in America was Breakfast in
America quadruple platinum status and Captain's log Today is National
(33:39):
Star Trek Day.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Today is a day to flash the Vulcan sign.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
That is, if you can.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
There's a large number of people who can't because it
requires specific manual dexterity to separate hand muscles to form
a the pattern. Even some actors on the show couldn't
do it. Actor Zachary Quinto used super glue to hold
his fingers in position. So today, live long and prosper
and flash that Vulcan salute as a nod to its creator,
Leonard Nimoy. That is, if you can, I'm bree Tennis.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
And if you fell asleep, you missed a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
What an epic come from behind victory for Josh Allen
and the Buffalo Bills. It's good to wake up in
Buffalo this morning. Right, Bill's forty one to forty over
the Ravens. Last night, Monday Football wraps up season Week
one of the NFL, with the Bears hosting the Vikings
tonight in Chicago. Hundreds of South Koreans are headed home
after a raid by ice at the Hyundai factory in Georgia.
What does this mean to relations with Soul and how
(34:31):
is the administration is responding? Roy O'Neill is covering this
one of our top stories of the day. Good morning, Rory, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Michael, good morning. So this was at a facility outside Savannah, Georgia.
It's a facility that's under construction. No Hyundai workers were
caught up in this. It's Hyundai and LG who are
together building this plant that will manufacture car batteries. But
the people swept up in the raid are subcontractors on
this project that's yet to get off the ground.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
So we've got some charter flights that are bringing the
people home.
Speaker 8 (35:01):
It looks like most of them were here legally, but
may have either overstayed visas or did not have work permits.
They may have been here on a tourist visa. All
that is still being settled, but the South Korean government
pretty embarrassed by this, saying, look, we're trying to invest
billions in the country. We should get a little bit
of leeway here and try to settle some of these
(35:22):
issues with the administration.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I Meanwhile, the administration is saying, look, you're going to
come here, you're going to have to you know, hire Americans,
train Americans, or bring people here legally. So they're making
a teachable moment out of it. I guess the point
you would make is this wasn't Hyundai. This was you know,
the contract workers coming to set up a battery portion
of the project. That's been pretty misleading in all of this.
(35:47):
And then finally from earlier this morning, we still have
not identified the Philly Karen.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Not yet.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
No.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
A couple of fake names have been floated out there,
but so far no definitive proof of the woman in
the Phillies, Jersey who snagged the baseball of the game this.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Week and last time I looked, the little boy is
now a front runner for president of the United States.
Is that social media gets out of control? Great reporting today, Rory,
Well that'll do it.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We're all in this together. This is Your Morning Show
with Michael ndheld Joo