September 11, 2025 • 36 mins
It’s ok to be politically shaken and culturally concerned, but not spiritually in doubt.
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Because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael gill Charman. Yeah, this is one of those
mornings where we're all in this together. Seems to ring true,
doesn't it. Seven minutes after the hour, Good morning, and
welcome to Thursday, September, the eleventh year of our Lord,
twenty twenty five, A day we thought we'd probably spend
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most of our attention remembering three thousand lost twenty four
years ago, and yet our focus and our hearts are
on one taken. In Utah, a man hunt is underway
for the person who shot and killed activist Charlie Kirk.
President Trump is questioning why Russia violated Poland's airspace with drones.
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There could be an escalation there. We all kind of
feel that one coming. This is a NATO nation and
we'll keep an eye on that story. Charlie Kirk, I'm
a talk show host, not a pastor, but it feels
a little like one of those moments because I think
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a lot of us are shaken in our humanity. We
see a father of young children, a husband, a young
man and killed in such a violent instant way that
shakes our humanity. It is certainly a political hit, which
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we will address secondary to husband and father. It is
a cultural challenge of political violence that needs to be done.
And then there's the spiritual aspect. You know, we talk
about the shooter. It had all the for me immediately.
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The fingerprints have not a deranged nut, but a professional
hit job. It puts people like us in an alkor
position today on nine to eleven, do we do nine
to eleven remembrance or do we focus on Charlie Kirk?
And how do we know they're not related? I mentioned
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that documentary that I recently watched and the significance of
Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul the scond and Margaret Thatcher
in the original ending of the Cold War, and the
original defeated the Soviet Union, as we're all struggling to
get Putin and Russia back within its borders. All three
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of them there were assassination attempts, and they were different.
When was a bombing that that should survive. One was
a nut trying to impress Jody Foster, and one was
an Islamist assassin who was given the go ahead by Russia. Look,
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if you're an enemy of the United States, I mean
you're wondering who this killer is. I don't know that
you're ever going to find him, because I think if
it's a professional assassin, you're not going to find them.
They're not going to miss and they're going to be
gone before you ever know it. That's what they do. Nuts,
you find professionals, you rarely do. So then you go
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to the motive, and that's where things like, oh, this
guy not only delivered the youth for Donald Trump on
an electoral college map, which was significant, is going to
continue to do so. So there's a certain political motive.
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You could be Russia, you could be another country. You
could be islam as terrorists and say this country's in
the brink of a civil war, let's help them. I mean,
we just don't know if they're related. Ultimately, I think
the challenge for a lot of people is going to
be wait a minute, This thirty one year old did
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nothing but talk about Christ and God. That was his
ultimate north star. I think Charlie Kirk, anybody that knew him,
anybody that's watched him, would care more about you figuring
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out God even than some of the the political positions
you may have faulted to. How would a God, a
loving God of a faithful servant allow this to happen? Well,
I could say that about all twelve apostles, right, And
that's a spiritual challenge and debated by theologians forever. It's
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a lot of it. There's no simple answer. You kind
of have to exegete the nature of God, the nature
of fallen man, God's faithfulness our viewpoint. You know, there's
that old expression we've talked about this before, that we're
not human beings having spiritual experiences. We're spirit beings having
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a temporary human experience, earthly experience. So from here everything's
about life here and eternity, and think of how short
our time is here on earth compared to eternity. It
just gets smaller and smaller and smaller eternity goes on.
So to try to understand an eternal God who's living
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in an eternal state from an earthly perspective, that's a
challenge in and of itself. But the simplest way to
explain it is God allows bad things because of the
free will and the fallen condition of his creation. Got
to have free will. If I make my wife and
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kids love me and they don't have a say in it,
it's not love. There's no obedience possible. There's no love possible.
So that's just part of the way things are. But
we know a God that is greater than that. That's
why I ultimately came to this conclusion yesterday, and that's
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kind of where I want to start the show. There
is no question Charlie Kirk was a sincere brother, faithful
servant of Christ. And the only actionable thing we can
do appropriately right now is pray for a young wife
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and two small children, a wife who's no longer going
to have the ability to die married to only one man,
potentially she can't raise her children with the ones she
chose to become one with. I mean, think of all
she's been robbed of. Think of what the kids had
been robbed of. Everything that I sit here and have experienced, anniversaries, birthdays,
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little league, ice skating proms. No, we need to pray
to that living God because he can comfort them. That family,
his mother's father, his wife, his children. He can't help
them heal. But beyond that, I look you right in
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the eye this morning and say, number one, God did
not fail, because I have no doubt in my mind
that Charlie's in the presence of God. I know where
Charlie is now. The real concern we're probably dealing with
is we don't know where we will be without a
moving forward, and there are some serious shoes to fill
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and to be concerned about that will impact elections to come.
But beyond elections, a lot of the things that we
describe among our youth have been touched, influenced and shaped
by this man. I know the motive of why the
enemy would want him taken out. I can't stress enough
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this is a big deal. I could just come on
the air today as a father and prove to you,
this is a big deal. This shook my three children
to the core. It took me about forty five minutes
yesterday to figure out, Oh my gosh, this is JFK assassination.
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Big for the youth. That's how influential this, Matt. There
is nobody more influential among fourteen year olds to twenty
five year olds right now. This was their JFK. This
was their MLK. I didn't even get a chance to
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process all this because I was being a father to
three kids and everything. You can imagine all the aspects
of grief, the shock, the horror, the fear. You might
hear people on television talking a lot about they're trying
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to silence here, they're trying to silence. Don't silence, don't
be silenced. Be Charlie, Be Charlie. First of all, God fearfully,
wonderfully made it, created Charlie Kirk for a purpose and
gifted him for a purpose, a purpose that doesn't doesn't
go away now that he's in God's presence. God has
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this all planned out. There is a You either believe
in divine or you don't. And if there is, there's
a plan for this, and God will work this together
for the good for those who are called according to
his purpose. But you can't be Charlie. You can only
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be you now. Charlie can inspire you in life to
stand up and live right and speak right, and he
can inspire you in death. There's a lot of people
that are gonna go back and watch his videos and
it's gonna have a whole I mean, I've already done it.
It has a whole different impact now that he's gone.
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Don't miss hear anything I'm saying. I wish he was
still here. I wrestle with the same anger you do,
and like the kids, we all kind of wrestle with
the same fear. What is happening in our country? What's
causing it? How can we stop it? Who can lead
this healing? And that's the uncertainty, that's the cultural challenge
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we face. Things are getting more violent. That's this matrix,
shirts and skins, all the analogies we use every day.
That's why I harp on it, because the uncertainty we're
all living in is something feels different. I Mean, when
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I watched the House yesterday, get it a big fight
over whether or not they would have a prayer for
Charlie Kirk's family. That's pretty dysfunctional. I was reading the Atlantic.
God help me when I start finding things in the
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Atlantic that is true. They wrote, all murders are horrifying,
but political violence brings its own special challenge. Why because
a society that resorts to violence to solve its problems
starts to surrender its claim to be a society. We
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cannot solve our differences with words any longer. That's a problem.
We're intolerant through violence. We need to, of course, be
very tolerant of war and debate and exchange. It's very
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intolerant a violence. The Atlantic piece goes on to say,
I'm going to paraphrase it because it's too long, But
American politics is so polarized right now and so frustrated
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that it can't seem to have one side win over
the other and find its way. That would rather end
the argument, We'll just silence it through violence. So we
have spiritual shaking and challengings, we have cultural challenges and uncertainties,
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and certainly this is going to impact the political landscape
in future. There's a lot to process today, and this
is a time where we need God more than ever,
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not need to question him. This is a time where
we need to really know him and have been prepared
to respond rather than react, and we must respond in
love and trust. Can we get there together? That's my
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hope For the next three hours. Our thoughts and prayers
are with Erica, the children and all the family of
Charlie Cook. This was an amazing man. I mean, just
when you stop and think about what he accomplished in
thirty one short years, what he started at a child
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This is your morning show with Michael del Trono.
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We can't and we wouldn't ever have it without your voice.
Use that talkback button on your iHeartRadio app. I know
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a lot of pressure on a talk show host on
a day like this to have something important to say
when something big happens. You know what I want this
show to be about. I want this to be the
one show whose listeners pray the most. I want this
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to be the one show where listeners have the opportunity
to speak the most. It's us figuring out this together.
That's the key to this show, and it's the key
to understanding yesterday. So use that talkback button. Your voice
is welcome. All right. President Trump is released an address
from the Oval Office. I'll be playing that for you
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here shortly. Mark Mayfield, Hub's the latest on that coming up.
Charlie Kirk's impact on politics immense Brian Shook has more.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
His organization, Turning Point USA, became key in the conservative movement,
with President Trump saying at many times Kirk was instrumental
in getting him elected twice. The thirty one year old
was known for his engaging style and passion for all
things Republican. He became the young face of the Republican
Party during President Trump's first term, appearing frequently on cable
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news programs.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm Brian Shaw. If that isn't enough, Today is the
twenty fourth anniversary of the nine to eleven attacks in
New York, the Pentagon and Shanksville. We got a lot
to remember and understand. This is your Thursday, September eleventh.
This is your morning show.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm Daniel Colsey and Tampa and my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael del Jornam.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hi, I'm Michael, and your Morning Show is heard on
great radio stations across the country like one oh five,
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seventy WKBN, and Youngstown, Ohio and News Radio one thousand
KTOK in Oklahoma City. Love to have you listen to
us live in the morning, and of course we're so
grateful you came for the podcast. Enjoy. Welcome to Thursday,
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September the eleventh and twenty fourth anniversary of the terror
attacks at the World Trade Center in New York City,
the Pentagon and our nation's capital, and the plane that
went down in Shanksville. It's also a day we're all
trying to sort our feelings after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The manhunt is still underway for the suspect. There was
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a lot of confusion yesterday with an initial suspect, then
a second, then the FBI saying that they have the
shooter in custody, that they don't have anybody and this
certainly has all the fingerp of a very professional hit.
So you may not ever find the shooter, so we
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sort and look for understanding. I mentioned a moment ago.
I want to be the show that has the listeners
that pray the most, because that's what Erica needs, that's
what the kids need. Fox just showed that clip again.
If I see it one more time, I'm going to
lose it live on the air. Charlie just filled in.
I think it was Labor Day, wasn't it on Fox
and Friends? And there was a moment when his daughter
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just ran right on the stage and jumped into his arms.
That's what's breaking my heart today. A really good brother
in Christ, a really good husband, a really good father.
He's in the presence of God. I have certainty of
where he is. We're all struggling to figure out how
we're going to do without him. And I can't even
breathe when I think about what his family has been
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robbed of. So be praying for them. Our living God
can make a difference. And then I'm going to give
you guys a chance to talk because I think that helps.
Let's start in Los Angeles, a EIB named after Russel
and bought Excellence and Broadcasting. We're proud to be on
that station.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Russ If you're okay with it, I'd like to pray
for you and your family safety. As you well know,
yesterday we lost one of God's greatest soldiers for simply
speaking the truth, the same thing that you do every day.
Thank God bless anyone whose heart was touched by Charlie's
works and made his memory live forever.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
God bless you, beautifully said, and thank you for the prayer.
I pray most earnestly for the president. That's where my
concern lies. Next, if there's any pattern, Bill is in
Tampa listening this morning. Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
First and foremost, I'd like to extend my prayers to
the family of Charlie Kirk, and he will be greatly missed.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Socialism and Marxism.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
If you notice the end in ism that usually denotes
a disease, we need to declare socialism and Marxism a
disease and maybe even label them as domestic terror is
the first ones to go to violence and try to
assassinate any conservative voice.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Naples, Florida is next, go to Naples. I want to
finish with John. Good morning, Michael from Naples, Florida.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
We are in a spiritual war evil really does exist.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Shortened to the point and very true. John in Youngstown
final say.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Bravo, Michael, that was your finest opening monologue ever, just
with such eloquence and just compassion and empathy, but such
clarity and truth. I so appreciate you and your show.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Charlie Kirk will definitely be missed.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Just an amazing job of helping understand the events of
nine to eleven life and God.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, what he's referring to is the opening monologue. And
you know, I said that there's three things. First of all,
this is a political had so there is a time
for a political conversation. Charlie Kirk was very influential in
reaching my children and the youth of America. This is
a big death for them. This is like I mean,
if you're a parent listening to me, you got I
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don't know where your kids stand, but my three kids,
this is like a JFK. This is a big deal
and you need to be a parent first. Over that.
But there is the influence that could have decided the
election and may have had an influence on the next election.
There's a lot of motive for the enemy or an
assassin to want to take this man out. There's a
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day for that. I'm not sure it's today. There is
the cultural challenge of uncertainty. This could very well be
the first shot of a civil war, it could be, ironically,
what could lead to the ultimate turning point for America.
And then, ultimately, first and foremost, there's a spiritual challenge.
How could a loving God allow this to happen. It's
such a faithful servant, such a wonderful husband, such a
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young father talked about, Well, there's this game we're playing,
and we play it with free will, so bad things
can happen to good people and God will allow it.
But that's because it's a free will deal, because you
can't have love without it, and it's a fallen world.
But God is divine, and he always has a greater purpose,
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and he always works things out to the good, and
he shares in our sufferings. But I think the biggest
difference is that our God is divine and eternal, and
we rarely live divinely or eternally minded. So that's why
I started the show the way I initially responded to
this tragedy. I have complete certainty of where Charlie is
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right now. I don't necessarily have certainty where we're going
to be without him. David's naught. He's our senior contributor.
When things like this happen, we tend to like to
be together, So get used to it. David, I think
you got to start with the spiritual first, because this
shakes everybody at their spiritual core. How could God have
allowed this? Why does bad things happen to good people?
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And how do we draw closer to God and not
blame God or distance ourselves or have our faith in
Him be shaken at times like this. Theologians have been
debating this forever.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Good morning, Michael, Good morning guys, and I do, like
you want to remember that the anniversary of nine to
eleven was what we were planning on talking about today
and what I'm sure we still will continue to reference
throughout the whole morning. This evening, I'm going to a
foundation event where I'm going to meet Todd Beemer's parents
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for the first time for me and an organization that
is dedicated toward remembering what happened in Shanksville along with
all the rest, and teaching young people to never forget
nine to eleven. And so we do remember that tragedy
today as well. There are a gazillion things that are
deeply troubling about what happened yesterday. I had a night
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of what you would call, in old literature terms, fitful sleep,
fifteen minutes at a time, and then your mind woke
you up to remind you what you were thinking about,
which was truly horrible. And this is an event that's
truly horrible. Your first response when you I was in
a luncheon and with a couple of business associates and
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you got one of the guy's phone got beeped, like
in the way that it's not supposed to, and he
looked down because Michael, like you, he has college students,
and his wife had written him and said, Charlie Kirk
just got shot.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Well, that completely ended the luncheon.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Everything was off the table, everyone was out of the
building within fifteen minutes because my phone was blowing up.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Your phone was blowing up, and then you and I
trying to connect.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Your first response was, it's like the Zubruder film talking
about the actual incident. Now, I'd like to say I
didn't that I had a luxury to not watch it,
but I don't have that luxury now that I have
the luxury to not watch it. I try to watch
it from every single piece of information I could, to
learn everything that I could, and it is genuinely horrific
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because it's real. We have an endless saturation in our
minds of movies we've watched where people have been executed.
Sometimes in a film forty and fifty times in ninety minutes,
there's people being shot. And yet when it's a real
human being that hits the floor, it's staggering. And this
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is staggering video. I don't recommend anyone feel that they
have to watch it. I felt professionally, you and I
had no choice.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, and I even I watched it slowly a couple
of times, just as his brother. To be honest with you,
is there is there any chance he would survive? That
was your first and well, yeah no, but I'm talking
about later. First of all, there was no doubt in
my mind once I saw the close up version he
was gone. And then watching it closely, I think he
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was gone rather quickly. So I don't think my brother suffered.
I think he is in the arms of Christ. I
think his eternity has begun, his reward is awaiting him,
and so I just wanted to make sure my brother
wasn't suffering. Now, hindsight, I tell you, I wish I
hadn't seen any of it.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It was certainly it sounded looked struck, very professional. I mean,
this was an assassin. The far away the fireway view
that this is maudlin. I don't mean to be Maudlin,
but the fireway view made me think. You know that
the throat wasn't a kill shot for Kennedy because of
where it went through with Jack Kennedy. The head shot
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was the kill shot with Kennedy. That's the literal Zippruter shot.
This one was a kill shot to the throat. It
was it was. It was rather obvious immediately he was
going to be deceased. The intensity of the weapon. I'm
surprised you don't have the caliber yet from the bullet recovery. Yeah,
well I'm sure. I'm sure that they do. We don't
have it, but they do. It sure look professional to me. Now,
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who would want to do that? So that kind of
makes me want to reverse. Let's do the spiritual first.
Why would God allow this to happen? Well, you get
this a lot. GK.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Chesterton was fond of a statement that he used in
the book Orthodox, He's the most popular book. He said,
if you begin an argument at the wrong spot, you'll
go mad. And when we begin the argument with why
would God allow, we've absolutely begun at the complete wrong spot.
The ginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord, because
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we could reverse that question just as easily as why
does God allow any of the blessings that you and
I have already experienced in these few hours we've been
awake this morning? For people who are so sinful, so disobedient,
so rebellious, sol idolatrous, and defy Him every single day,
you could begin the conversation from a completely opposite end.
In addition to that, when people ask that question, they
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usually do it with either complete ignorance or a complete
un willingness to accept the fact that our.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Pilgrimage here is an inherited reality.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Our first parents fell, the first parents of Israel fell,
the first parents of Christianity fell, and you and I
fell coming out of the womb. We are a sinful people,
and we disobey God on a regular basis as free
moral agents. The question is why should God afford the
mercies that He's given us and the blessings every day
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given how we disrespect the creator, who is the potter
or that the clay to say to the potter, what's
wrong with you? So that's the first thing is we
got to remember there is a God and we.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Are not him, and God is not our feelings.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Well, and then the next question, of course is yeah,
but you say he's a loving God and he can
prevent things. Yes, God can do anything. And God wasn't
surprised by what happened yesterday. In fact, the scripture tells
us that all the days are named for Charlie Kirk.
Kirk like for you and I were in God's book
before any of them began surprised at all. So we
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are free moral agents living in a fallen world, and
we have choices that are made. I started this work
in the field of public policy in high exposure when
I was thirty years old. Rob Ulgate, the president of
the American policy around him, when I'll started when he
was twenty six years old. I can tell you right
now that when Charlie Kirk started, and we started, and
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anyone who's ever gotten into this field started, we knew
that yesterday was always a possibility for anyone who enters
into the public arena and speaks their mind.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's a reality.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Charlie Kirk chose to be there, just like the shooter
chose to take him out. We are free moral agents,
and God lets us be free moral agents, as you've
rightly discerned this morning, because he loves us. And it
is impossible to love God unless you have choice, and
people make choices.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And isn't it human and necessary to realize it's just
not in our dan to completely feel and understand this
on this side of heaven. Oh this is I mean,
that's the key to me is the divinity and the
eternal state of God. And we think earth is everything.
Do you realize how our time together, how small it looks.
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I mean, the longer eternity goes, the smaller it gets.
So if you look at it from God's perspective, it's
very different than the way it looks and feels from ours.
I can think of it. I know we need to
break I'm not blind. I would say it this way.
There was probably a time when you and Rob Walgate
were looking at the landscape saying the future is not
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on our side. It looks very grim and you were
probably praying somehow, some way. We need to reunite the family.
We need to turn people back towards God. We have
got to start influencing our children and get them back.
Charlie Kirk was the answer to those prayers, and he
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starts an organization at eighteen and look at what he's
accomplished by thirty one. In other words, back to what
I said earlier, Hey, in all of this conversation, let's
not forget to thank God for Charlie Kirk and understand
what God did through Charlie Kirk, because guess what you
can do the same thing through us.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's your Morning Show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The man hunt continues for the person who shot and
killed activist Charlie Cook yesterday, still no suspect in custody.
Commemorate ceremonies throughout the day and morning. It's the twenty
fourth anniversary of nine to eleven, the terror attack on
the World Trade Center in New York City, the Pentagon
in Washington, and the plane that was downed in Shanksville.
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We also have the President questioning why Russia violated Poland's
airspace with drones. There is that nagging continual or else
that Putin is simply not responding to. And things look
like the potential for escalation looks greater than peace. There's
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a lot of troubling things today, David, any question in
your mind? I thought one of the most powerful speakers
yesterday was the Utah governor. In fact, if I have
one regret, I wish I could go back and start
the show with it. Maybe we'll do it right after
Rory visits at six oh five and then and dovetail
because I think his words were poignant and beautiful. He's
on my radar now. That was amazing. He handled yesterday
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flawlessly from Utah, but he made it crystal clear this
was a political assassination. I think we were all struck
by the sound, the accuracy. It was not an easy shot,
not from where he was perched, the fact that it
was one shot, not multiple. It just had all of
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the fingerprints of a very professional hit job, which makes
me a question. If the lever find him, it makes
me really question, well, who would have wanted this hit?
And then that really speaks to his accomplishments and what
he delivered. I mean, if you really wanted to influence
the next two elections. Sadly, this was the guy to
take out. He was building a generation.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Yeah, there's a lot of ways to go to motive
and who the potential people are. I think all of
us are highly skeptical that that person will ever be found,
which in and of itself creates the endless potential for
conspiracy theories going forward. And I don't fault the officials
who were there. They had a police force on the
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campus for forty thousand people of six on duty that day,
and obviously they weren't expecting anything like this. And Charlie's
Kirks people were phenomenal in regards to the instantaneous nature
of their response, but from an elevated position with a
high powered rifle, scoped and most likely a professional sniper.
(34:53):
If you're not the President of the United States and
you don't have Secret Service up there shooting in before
he shoots your guy, chance does anybody have? So there's
a lot of strategic questions that are that are involved
in all of this. You know, I I don't want
to be one of the people that suddenly gloms on
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to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I heard a lot of that going on yesterday.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
People who seventy two hours earlier didn't have Charlie Kirk
on their rolodex or and their view.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Oh yeah, now everybody's best friends with them, and yeah, no.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
It was best friends with them and all that sort
of stuff. So I don't want to do that. I
appreciate the fact that you were talking. I think what
you said was the best thing I've heard yet or
earlier this morning, when we talked about a thirty one
year old young man, a husband and a father, with
an entire future ahead of him, and someone snuffed him out.
Now again, it did not come as a surprise to God.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
No, no, that happened. But what's interesting is here's a
guy that doesn't go to college but ends up influencing colleges. Yeah.
I mean, look, I got a son who's eighteen years well,
he's nineteen, now eighteen years old. He wasn't starting a
business that was going to impact the political landscape and
the culture of the most powerful nation on earth, which
(36:12):
Charlie Kirk accomplished by thirty one is amazing. When he
started at eighteen was amazing. And his influence on the
outcome of the Trump comeback in twenty twenty four I
think is rightly credited to him. He achieved a lot.
I'm concerned about that generation having a voice moving forward
because he was pointing kids back to God, back to
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traditional values and making sense and now he's gone. So
my number one message to parents out there, this is
a JFK biggie for your kids. Make sure you're there
for them as a parent. More with David coming up.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
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Because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael gill Charman. Yeah, this is one of those
mornings where we're all in this together. Seems to ring true,
doesn't it. Seven minutes after the hour, Good morning, and
welcome to Thursday, September, the eleventh year of our Lord,
twenty twenty five, A day we thought we'd probably spend
(00:52):
most of our attention remembering three thousand lost twenty four
years ago, and yet our focus and our hearts are
on one taken. In Utah, a man hunt is underway
for the person who shot and killed activist Charlie Kirk.
President Trump is questioning why Russia violated Poland's airspace with drones.
(01:12):
There could be an escalation there. We all kind of
feel that one coming. This is a NATO nation and
we'll keep an eye on that story. Charlie Kirk, I'm
a talk show host, not a pastor, but it feels
a little like one of those moments because I think
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a lot of us are shaken in our humanity. We
see a father of young children, a husband, a young
man and killed in such a violent instant way that
shakes our humanity. It is certainly a political hit, which
(01:56):
we will address secondary to husband and father. It is
a cultural challenge of political violence that needs to be done.
And then there's the spiritual aspect. You know, we talk
about the shooter. It had all the for me immediately.
(02:18):
The fingerprints have not a deranged nut, but a professional
hit job. It puts people like us in an alkor
position today on nine to eleven, do we do nine
to eleven remembrance or do we focus on Charlie Kirk?
And how do we know they're not related? I mentioned
(02:39):
that documentary that I recently watched and the significance of
Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul the scond and Margaret Thatcher
in the original ending of the Cold War, and the
original defeated the Soviet Union, as we're all struggling to
get Putin and Russia back within its borders. All three
(03:01):
of them there were assassination attempts, and they were different.
When was a bombing that that should survive. One was
a nut trying to impress Jody Foster, and one was
an Islamist assassin who was given the go ahead by Russia. Look,
(03:22):
if you're an enemy of the United States, I mean
you're wondering who this killer is. I don't know that
you're ever going to find him, because I think if
it's a professional assassin, you're not going to find them.
They're not going to miss and they're going to be
gone before you ever know it. That's what they do. Nuts,
you find professionals, you rarely do. So then you go
(03:43):
to the motive, and that's where things like, oh, this
guy not only delivered the youth for Donald Trump on
an electoral college map, which was significant, is going to
continue to do so. So there's a certain political motive.
(04:05):
You could be Russia, you could be another country. You
could be islam as terrorists and say this country's in
the brink of a civil war, let's help them. I mean,
we just don't know if they're related. Ultimately, I think
the challenge for a lot of people is going to
be wait a minute, This thirty one year old did
(04:30):
nothing but talk about Christ and God. That was his
ultimate north star. I think Charlie Kirk, anybody that knew him,
anybody that's watched him, would care more about you figuring
(04:52):
out God even than some of the the political positions
you may have faulted to. How would a God, a
loving God of a faithful servant allow this to happen? Well,
I could say that about all twelve apostles, right, And
that's a spiritual challenge and debated by theologians forever. It's
(05:18):
a lot of it. There's no simple answer. You kind
of have to exegete the nature of God, the nature
of fallen man, God's faithfulness our viewpoint. You know, there's
that old expression we've talked about this before, that we're
not human beings having spiritual experiences. We're spirit beings having
(05:43):
a temporary human experience, earthly experience. So from here everything's
about life here and eternity, and think of how short
our time is here on earth compared to eternity. It
just gets smaller and smaller and smaller eternity goes on.
So to try to understand an eternal God who's living
(06:05):
in an eternal state from an earthly perspective, that's a
challenge in and of itself. But the simplest way to
explain it is God allows bad things because of the
free will and the fallen condition of his creation. Got
to have free will. If I make my wife and
(06:27):
kids love me and they don't have a say in it,
it's not love. There's no obedience possible. There's no love possible.
So that's just part of the way things are. But
we know a God that is greater than that. That's
why I ultimately came to this conclusion yesterday, and that's
(06:52):
kind of where I want to start the show. There
is no question Charlie Kirk was a sincere brother, faithful
servant of Christ. And the only actionable thing we can
do appropriately right now is pray for a young wife
(07:13):
and two small children, a wife who's no longer going
to have the ability to die married to only one man,
potentially she can't raise her children with the ones she
chose to become one with. I mean, think of all
she's been robbed of. Think of what the kids had
been robbed of. Everything that I sit here and have experienced, anniversaries, birthdays,
(07:42):
little league, ice skating proms. No, we need to pray
to that living God because he can comfort them. That family,
his mother's father, his wife, his children. He can't help
them heal. But beyond that, I look you right in
(08:06):
the eye this morning and say, number one, God did
not fail, because I have no doubt in my mind
that Charlie's in the presence of God. I know where
Charlie is now. The real concern we're probably dealing with
is we don't know where we will be without a
moving forward, and there are some serious shoes to fill
(08:30):
and to be concerned about that will impact elections to come.
But beyond elections, a lot of the things that we
describe among our youth have been touched, influenced and shaped
by this man. I know the motive of why the
enemy would want him taken out. I can't stress enough
(08:58):
this is a big deal. I could just come on
the air today as a father and prove to you,
this is a big deal. This shook my three children
to the core. It took me about forty five minutes
yesterday to figure out, Oh my gosh, this is JFK assassination.
(09:21):
Big for the youth. That's how influential this, Matt. There
is nobody more influential among fourteen year olds to twenty
five year olds right now. This was their JFK. This
was their MLK. I didn't even get a chance to
(09:41):
process all this because I was being a father to
three kids and everything. You can imagine all the aspects
of grief, the shock, the horror, the fear. You might
hear people on television talking a lot about they're trying
(10:03):
to silence here, they're trying to silence. Don't silence, don't
be silenced. Be Charlie, Be Charlie. First of all, God fearfully,
wonderfully made it, created Charlie Kirk for a purpose and
gifted him for a purpose, a purpose that doesn't doesn't
go away now that he's in God's presence. God has
(10:24):
this all planned out. There is a You either believe
in divine or you don't. And if there is, there's
a plan for this, and God will work this together
for the good for those who are called according to
his purpose. But you can't be Charlie. You can only
(10:45):
be you now. Charlie can inspire you in life to
stand up and live right and speak right, and he
can inspire you in death. There's a lot of people
that are gonna go back and watch his videos and
it's gonna have a whole I mean, I've already done it.
It has a whole different impact now that he's gone.
(11:09):
Don't miss hear anything I'm saying. I wish he was
still here. I wrestle with the same anger you do,
and like the kids, we all kind of wrestle with
the same fear. What is happening in our country? What's
causing it? How can we stop it? Who can lead
this healing? And that's the uncertainty, that's the cultural challenge
(11:34):
we face. Things are getting more violent. That's this matrix,
shirts and skins, all the analogies we use every day.
That's why I harp on it, because the uncertainty we're
all living in is something feels different. I Mean, when
(11:55):
I watched the House yesterday, get it a big fight
over whether or not they would have a prayer for
Charlie Kirk's family. That's pretty dysfunctional. I was reading the Atlantic.
God help me when I start finding things in the
(12:16):
Atlantic that is true. They wrote, all murders are horrifying,
but political violence brings its own special challenge. Why because
a society that resorts to violence to solve its problems
starts to surrender its claim to be a society. We
(12:41):
cannot solve our differences with words any longer. That's a problem.
We're intolerant through violence. We need to, of course, be
very tolerant of war and debate and exchange. It's very
(13:03):
intolerant a violence. The Atlantic piece goes on to say,
I'm going to paraphrase it because it's too long, But
American politics is so polarized right now and so frustrated
(13:24):
that it can't seem to have one side win over
the other and find its way. That would rather end
the argument, We'll just silence it through violence. So we
have spiritual shaking and challengings, we have cultural challenges and uncertainties,
(13:47):
and certainly this is going to impact the political landscape
in future. There's a lot to process today, and this
is a time where we need God more than ever,
(14:07):
not need to question him. This is a time where
we need to really know him and have been prepared
to respond rather than react, and we must respond in
love and trust. Can we get there together? That's my
(14:28):
hope For the next three hours. Our thoughts and prayers
are with Erica, the children and all the family of
Charlie Cook. This was an amazing man. I mean, just
when you stop and think about what he accomplished in
thirty one short years, what he started at a child
age of eighteen, and how it has influenced our country.
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This is your morning show with Michael del Trono.
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We can't and we wouldn't ever have it without your voice.
Use that talkback button on your iHeartRadio app. I know
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a lot of pressure on a talk show host on
a day like this to have something important to say
when something big happens. You know what I want this
show to be about. I want this to be the
one show whose listeners pray the most. I want this
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to be the one show where listeners have the opportunity
to speak the most. It's us figuring out this together.
That's the key to this show, and it's the key
to understanding yesterday. So use that talkback button. Your voice
is welcome. All right. President Trump is released an address
from the Oval Office. I'll be playing that for you
(16:56):
here shortly. Mark Mayfield, Hub's the latest on that coming up.
Charlie Kirk's impact on politics immense Brian Shook has more.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
His organization, Turning Point USA, became key in the conservative movement,
with President Trump saying at many times Kirk was instrumental
in getting him elected twice. The thirty one year old
was known for his engaging style and passion for all
things Republican. He became the young face of the Republican
Party during President Trump's first term, appearing frequently on cable
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news programs.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm Brian Shaw. If that isn't enough, Today is the
twenty fourth anniversary of the nine to eleven attacks in
New York, the Pentagon and Shanksville. We got a lot
to remember and understand. This is your Thursday, September eleventh.
This is your morning show.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I'm Daniel Colsey and Tampa and my morning show is
your Morning Show with Michael del Jornam.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
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September the eleventh and twenty fourth anniversary of the terror
attacks at the World Trade Center in New York City,
the Pentagon and our nation's capital, and the plane that
went down in Shanksville. It's also a day we're all
trying to sort our feelings after the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
The manhunt is still underway for the suspect. There was
(18:45):
a lot of confusion yesterday with an initial suspect, then
a second, then the FBI saying that they have the
shooter in custody, that they don't have anybody and this
certainly has all the fingerp of a very professional hit.
So you may not ever find the shooter, so we
(19:06):
sort and look for understanding. I mentioned a moment ago.
I want to be the show that has the listeners
that pray the most, because that's what Erica needs, that's
what the kids need. Fox just showed that clip again.
If I see it one more time, I'm going to
lose it live on the air. Charlie just filled in.
I think it was Labor Day, wasn't it on Fox
and Friends? And there was a moment when his daughter
(19:28):
just ran right on the stage and jumped into his arms.
That's what's breaking my heart today. A really good brother
in Christ, a really good husband, a really good father.
He's in the presence of God. I have certainty of
where he is. We're all struggling to figure out how
we're going to do without him. And I can't even
breathe when I think about what his family has been
(19:49):
robbed of. So be praying for them. Our living God
can make a difference. And then I'm going to give
you guys a chance to talk because I think that helps.
Let's start in Los Angeles, a EIB named after Russel
and bought Excellence and Broadcasting. We're proud to be on
that station.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Russ If you're okay with it, I'd like to pray
for you and your family safety. As you well know,
yesterday we lost one of God's greatest soldiers for simply
speaking the truth, the same thing that you do every day.
Thank God bless anyone whose heart was touched by Charlie's
works and made his memory live forever.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
God bless you, beautifully said, and thank you for the prayer.
I pray most earnestly for the president. That's where my
concern lies. Next, if there's any pattern, Bill is in
Tampa listening this morning. Good morning, Michael.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
First and foremost, I'd like to extend my prayers to
the family of Charlie Kirk, and he will be greatly missed.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Socialism and Marxism.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
If you notice the end in ism that usually denotes
a disease, we need to declare socialism and Marxism a
disease and maybe even label them as domestic terror is
the first ones to go to violence and try to
assassinate any conservative voice.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Naples, Florida is next, go to Naples. I want to
finish with John. Good morning, Michael from Naples, Florida.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
We are in a spiritual war evil really does exist.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Shortened to the point and very true. John in Youngstown
final say.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Bravo, Michael, that was your finest opening monologue ever, just
with such eloquence and just compassion and empathy, but such
clarity and truth. I so appreciate you and your show.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Charlie Kirk will definitely be missed.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Just an amazing job of helping understand the events of
nine to eleven life and God.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, what he's referring to is the opening monologue. And
you know, I said that there's three things. First of all,
this is a political had so there is a time
for a political conversation. Charlie Kirk was very influential in
reaching my children and the youth of America. This is
a big death for them. This is like I mean,
if you're a parent listening to me, you got I
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don't know where your kids stand, but my three kids,
this is like a JFK. This is a big deal
and you need to be a parent first. Over that.
But there is the influence that could have decided the
election and may have had an influence on the next election.
There's a lot of motive for the enemy or an
assassin to want to take this man out. There's a
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day for that. I'm not sure it's today. There is
the cultural challenge of uncertainty. This could very well be
the first shot of a civil war, it could be, ironically,
what could lead to the ultimate turning point for America.
And then, ultimately, first and foremost, there's a spiritual challenge.
How could a loving God allow this to happen. It's
such a faithful servant, such a wonderful husband, such a
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young father talked about, Well, there's this game we're playing,
and we play it with free will, so bad things
can happen to good people and God will allow it.
But that's because it's a free will deal, because you
can't have love without it, and it's a fallen world.
But God is divine, and he always has a greater purpose,
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and he always works things out to the good, and
he shares in our sufferings. But I think the biggest
difference is that our God is divine and eternal, and
we rarely live divinely or eternally minded. So that's why
I started the show the way I initially responded to
this tragedy. I have complete certainty of where Charlie is
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right now. I don't necessarily have certainty where we're going
to be without him. David's naught. He's our senior contributor.
When things like this happen, we tend to like to
be together, So get used to it. David, I think
you got to start with the spiritual first, because this
shakes everybody at their spiritual core. How could God have
allowed this? Why does bad things happen to good people?
(24:06):
And how do we draw closer to God and not
blame God or distance ourselves or have our faith in
Him be shaken at times like this. Theologians have been
debating this forever.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Good morning, Michael, Good morning guys, and I do, like
you want to remember that the anniversary of nine to
eleven was what we were planning on talking about today
and what I'm sure we still will continue to reference
throughout the whole morning. This evening, I'm going to a
foundation event where I'm going to meet Todd Beemer's parents
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for the first time for me and an organization that
is dedicated toward remembering what happened in Shanksville along with
all the rest, and teaching young people to never forget
nine to eleven. And so we do remember that tragedy
today as well. There are a gazillion things that are
deeply troubling about what happened yesterday. I had a night
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of what you would call, in old literature terms, fitful sleep,
fifteen minutes at a time, and then your mind woke
you up to remind you what you were thinking about,
which was truly horrible. And this is an event that's
truly horrible. Your first response when you I was in
a luncheon and with a couple of business associates and
(25:25):
you got one of the guy's phone got beeped, like
in the way that it's not supposed to, and he
looked down because Michael, like you, he has college students,
and his wife had written him and said, Charlie Kirk
just got shot.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Well, that completely ended the luncheon.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Everything was off the table, everyone was out of the
building within fifteen minutes because my phone was blowing up.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Your phone was blowing up, and then you and I
trying to connect.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
Your first response was, it's like the Zubruder film talking
about the actual incident. Now, I'd like to say I
didn't that I had a luxury to not watch it,
but I don't have that luxury now that I have
the luxury to not watch it. I try to watch
it from every single piece of information I could, to
learn everything that I could, and it is genuinely horrific
(26:11):
because it's real. We have an endless saturation in our
minds of movies we've watched where people have been executed.
Sometimes in a film forty and fifty times in ninety minutes,
there's people being shot. And yet when it's a real
human being that hits the floor, it's staggering. And this
(26:33):
is staggering video. I don't recommend anyone feel that they
have to watch it. I felt professionally, you and I
had no choice.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, and I even I watched it slowly a couple
of times, just as his brother. To be honest with you,
is there is there any chance he would survive? That
was your first and well, yeah no, but I'm talking
about later. First of all, there was no doubt in
my mind once I saw the close up version he
was gone. And then watching it closely, I think he
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was gone rather quickly. So I don't think my brother suffered.
I think he is in the arms of Christ. I
think his eternity has begun, his reward is awaiting him,
and so I just wanted to make sure my brother
wasn't suffering. Now, hindsight, I tell you, I wish I
hadn't seen any of it.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It was certainly it sounded looked struck, very professional. I mean,
this was an assassin. The far away the fireway view
that this is maudlin. I don't mean to be Maudlin,
but the fireway view made me think. You know that
the throat wasn't a kill shot for Kennedy because of
where it went through with Jack Kennedy. The head shot
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was the kill shot with Kennedy. That's the literal Zippruter shot.
This one was a kill shot to the throat. It
was it was. It was rather obvious immediately he was
going to be deceased. The intensity of the weapon. I'm
surprised you don't have the caliber yet from the bullet recovery. Yeah,
well I'm sure. I'm sure that they do. We don't
have it, but they do. It sure look professional to me. Now,
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who would want to do that? So that kind of
makes me want to reverse. Let's do the spiritual first.
Why would God allow this to happen? Well, you get
this a lot. GK.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
Chesterton was fond of a statement that he used in
the book Orthodox, He's the most popular book. He said,
if you begin an argument at the wrong spot, you'll
go mad. And when we begin the argument with why
would God allow, we've absolutely begun at the complete wrong spot.
The ginning of wisdom is fear of the Lord, because
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we could reverse that question just as easily as why
does God allow any of the blessings that you and
I have already experienced in these few hours we've been
awake this morning? For people who are so sinful, so disobedient,
so rebellious, sol idolatrous, and defy Him every single day,
you could begin the conversation from a completely opposite end.
In addition to that, when people ask that question, they
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usually do it with either complete ignorance or a complete
un willingness to accept the fact that our.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Pilgrimage here is an inherited reality.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
Our first parents fell, the first parents of Israel fell,
the first parents of Christianity fell, and you and I
fell coming out of the womb. We are a sinful people,
and we disobey God on a regular basis as free
moral agents. The question is why should God afford the
mercies that He's given us and the blessings every day
(29:26):
given how we disrespect the creator, who is the potter
or that the clay to say to the potter, what's
wrong with you? So that's the first thing is we
got to remember there is a God and we.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Are not him, and God is not our feelings.
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Well, and then the next question, of course is yeah,
but you say he's a loving God and he can
prevent things. Yes, God can do anything. And God wasn't
surprised by what happened yesterday. In fact, the scripture tells
us that all the days are named for Charlie Kirk.
Kirk like for you and I were in God's book
before any of them began surprised at all. So we
(30:02):
are free moral agents living in a fallen world, and
we have choices that are made. I started this work
in the field of public policy in high exposure when
I was thirty years old. Rob Ulgate, the president of
the American policy around him, when I'll started when he
was twenty six years old. I can tell you right
now that when Charlie Kirk started, and we started, and
(30:22):
anyone who's ever gotten into this field started, we knew
that yesterday was always a possibility for anyone who enters
into the public arena and speaks their mind.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's a reality.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
Charlie Kirk chose to be there, just like the shooter
chose to take him out. We are free moral agents,
and God lets us be free moral agents, as you've
rightly discerned this morning, because he loves us. And it
is impossible to love God unless you have choice, and
people make choices.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And isn't it human and necessary to realize it's just
not in our dan to completely feel and understand this
on this side of heaven. Oh this is I mean,
that's the key to me is the divinity and the
eternal state of God. And we think earth is everything.
Do you realize how our time together, how small it looks.
(31:17):
I mean, the longer eternity goes, the smaller it gets.
So if you look at it from God's perspective, it's
very different than the way it looks and feels from ours.
I can think of it. I know we need to
break I'm not blind. I would say it this way.
There was probably a time when you and Rob Walgate
were looking at the landscape saying the future is not
(31:38):
on our side. It looks very grim and you were
probably praying somehow, some way. We need to reunite the family.
We need to turn people back towards God. We have
got to start influencing our children and get them back.
Charlie Kirk was the answer to those prayers, and he
(31:59):
starts an organization at eighteen and look at what he's
accomplished by thirty one. In other words, back to what
I said earlier, Hey, in all of this conversation, let's
not forget to thank God for Charlie Kirk and understand
what God did through Charlie Kirk, because guess what you
can do the same thing through us.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
It's your Morning Show with Michael del Journo.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The man hunt continues for the person who shot and
killed activist Charlie Cook yesterday, still no suspect in custody.
Commemorate ceremonies throughout the day and morning. It's the twenty
fourth anniversary of nine to eleven, the terror attack on
the World Trade Center in New York City, the Pentagon
in Washington, and the plane that was downed in Shanksville.
(32:43):
We also have the President questioning why Russia violated Poland's
airspace with drones. There is that nagging continual or else
that Putin is simply not responding to. And things look
like the potential for escalation looks greater than peace. There's
(33:04):
a lot of troubling things today, David, any question in
your mind? I thought one of the most powerful speakers
yesterday was the Utah governor. In fact, if I have
one regret, I wish I could go back and start
the show with it. Maybe we'll do it right after
Rory visits at six oh five and then and dovetail
because I think his words were poignant and beautiful. He's
on my radar now. That was amazing. He handled yesterday
(33:27):
flawlessly from Utah, but he made it crystal clear this
was a political assassination. I think we were all struck
by the sound, the accuracy. It was not an easy shot,
not from where he was perched, the fact that it
was one shot, not multiple. It just had all of
(33:49):
the fingerprints of a very professional hit job, which makes
me a question. If the lever find him, it makes
me really question, well, who would have wanted this hit?
And then that really speaks to his accomplishments and what
he delivered. I mean, if you really wanted to influence
the next two elections. Sadly, this was the guy to
take out. He was building a generation.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Yeah, there's a lot of ways to go to motive
and who the potential people are. I think all of
us are highly skeptical that that person will ever be found,
which in and of itself creates the endless potential for
conspiracy theories going forward. And I don't fault the officials
who were there. They had a police force on the
(34:33):
campus for forty thousand people of six on duty that day,
and obviously they weren't expecting anything like this. And Charlie's
Kirks people were phenomenal in regards to the instantaneous nature
of their response, but from an elevated position with a
high powered rifle, scoped and most likely a professional sniper.
(34:53):
If you're not the President of the United States and
you don't have Secret Service up there shooting in before
he shoots your guy, chance does anybody have? So there's
a lot of strategic questions that are that are involved
in all of this. You know, I I don't want
to be one of the people that suddenly gloms on
(35:15):
to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I heard a lot of that going on yesterday.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
People who seventy two hours earlier didn't have Charlie Kirk
on their rolodex or and their view.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Oh yeah, now everybody's best friends with them, and yeah, no.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
It was best friends with them and all that sort
of stuff. So I don't want to do that. I
appreciate the fact that you were talking. I think what
you said was the best thing I've heard yet or
earlier this morning, when we talked about a thirty one
year old young man, a husband and a father, with
an entire future ahead of him, and someone snuffed him out.
Now again, it did not come as a surprise to God.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
No, no, that happened. But what's interesting is here's a
guy that doesn't go to college but ends up influencing colleges. Yeah.
I mean, look, I got a son who's eighteen years well,
he's nineteen, now eighteen years old. He wasn't starting a
business that was going to impact the political landscape and
the culture of the most powerful nation on earth, which
(36:12):
Charlie Kirk accomplished by thirty one is amazing. When he
started at eighteen was amazing. And his influence on the
outcome of the Trump comeback in twenty twenty four I
think is rightly credited to him. He achieved a lot.
I'm concerned about that generation having a voice moving forward
because he was pointing kids back to God, back to
(36:35):
traditional values and making sense and now he's gone. So
my number one message to parents out there, this is
a JFK biggie for your kids. Make sure you're there
for them as a parent. More with David coming up.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
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