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was on the Charlie Kirkkirk Memorial. We will have a
lot on that today. But Jeffrey acknowledging, yes, the Titans
are terrible, as terrible as I puty that they would
be a major announcement about autism expected today at the
White House. Charlie Kirk remembered by tens of thousands in Arizona,
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Erica Kirk announcing she forgives her husband's accused assassin from
the podium. Senate Majority Leader Chucky Schumer's as Republicans will
be to blame for a government shutdown or to thank
because if followed us is leave us with just the
necessary programs of government. Well that's better than what we're doing.
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I know, really yeah, today's first day of fall, and
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really belong to you. Did you watch? Was it possible?
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I watched all five hours and eighteen minutes of the
Charlie Kirk memorial. I did that because of what I
do for a living. I don't know that I could
have done that any other way. And part of me wonders,
were you able to watch all five hours? Or will
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Charlie Kirk's memorial the message and celebration of his life
the exegetive? Well, now, how then do we live? Is
that going to be determined by algorithms and clips that
you mostly see yesterday and today? Did anybody watch each
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speaker or the entire program in its context and by design?
Could they We live in a time with an attention
span of about fifteen seconds. I am frightened to the
bone to say out loud to you, right, that's literally
the research we have the attention span of fifteen seconds.
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Look at you could have very powerful conversation about can
a motion picture properly tell a story anymore? When you're
asking people to sit down without a phone, without posting
something about themselves and pay attention for longer than fifteen seconds?
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And if you're going to have that many speakers, should
they speak that long? Each those are the things I'm
curious about. Did you think it was too long? Were
you able to watch the whole thing? Did it strike
the right tone? And when I say right tone, I
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look at that from two different prisms. One is the
prism of Charlie. As I said, for the purposes of
what I do for a living, I don't even know
how to begin to put a number on how many
hours I've spent watching literally every single video clip available
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of Charlie Kirk. You want the honest to God truth.
So I'm prepared for whatever the enemies are going to
throw at us. Because everything Charlie, I pray to God
this never happens to me that everything I ever said
at eighteen twenty two, twenty four, twenty five does it
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come back to be the measure of my life. I
always found the right tone. I virtually every time found
the right message, and in the latter years a level
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of gifting, love and eloquence. My wife has a this
is what I wanted to start the show with, which
she calls her delicate balance. Okay, so waitress comes pours
our coffee, and then Andrea goes to work like a
mad scientist with the sweeteners and the creams getting it
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absolutely perfect the way she likes it right, and then
she's sipping away and enjoying away. And if someone should
come along and just put like another two ounces in,
she goes through the roof because you have just ruined
her delicate you ruin the recipe. That is right. Charlie
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always had the delicate balance of the perfect amount of
salt and the perfect amount of love, the perfect amount
of truth, and the perfect amount of patience and compassion.
His message was always clear, and whether he changed a
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heart or mind, he impacted it. I saw a meme
and I thought, wow, that's worth us pondering. You probably
see this guy all the time. They used this meme
and they type different messages. But the guy using the
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white board and it says, Charlie Kirk wasn't killed because
of what he had to say, And that's been a
central message. There's a lot of people that say the
things Charlie said, they didn't get killed. Why did Charlie?
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Was it because they delivered an election, a presidential national election.
That's what the president and vice president are saying. They
don't win without Charlie Kirk. Did he get killed for that?
And I don't even think that's it. I think the
meme's right. Kirk wasn't killed because of what he had
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to say. He was killed because the young were listening
to him. I don't I think that at the end
of the day, was yesterday about really celebrating this gift
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from God? Was it about preserving this political machine or
turning point? Was it about turning his death into a revival?
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You can't announce a revival, you can't cheer a revival
on Was it the right tone, was it the right message?
Did it match Charlie and his vision? And where do
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we go from here? So my whole point is I
come here and I'm wanting to know those answers from you.
You come here and I often get this in emails,
and you wanted to come from me. Well, here's what
you're gonna get from me. Depends on the speaker. I'm
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going to feature two because those are the two. Have
you ever watched a movie or something and it's so great,
but if the person you love isn't there, you can't
quite enjoy it. If you weren't able to watch all
five hours. These are the nine minutes I'd want you
to hear. I think these are the nine minutes that
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perfectly celebrated Charlie's life, perfectly found Charlie's tone, perfectly stayed
on Charlie's message, and by doing so, perfectly met the
delicate balance of memorializing and paying tribute. I'm going to
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do that. The other thing is, I want you, whether
you watched all five hours or didn't, what do you
do with Charlie Kirk's life and death, example and message?
What do we do with all of this? In the
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course of that memorial. I mean, I saw Charlie Kirk
go from future president to a founding father. I mean,
you can go a lot of places with us, but
where are you going to go with it? It's a
reasonable place to go with it. Because some may have
watched that memorial and said, well, I don't know history
like that, I don't know the Bible like that. I
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can't think quit I got my feet, I can't go
to a university and debate people. And I can't stop
being an electrician and account or whatever whatever I'd have
to do to spend every waking moment. Some of you
may have watched and said, I would never make those choices.
I wouldn't spend two hundred and eighty days on the road. Yeah,
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Charlie still makes a demand on you. Don't turn and
walk away for whatever reason would shuffle you along. So
I'm standing outside and I look at God and I say, God,
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what do you want me to do with Charlie? What
am I to do with this? And I felt God
speak to my heart the most powerful response to Charlie
Kirk's life and murder, just be grateful for your life.
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And the minute I felt him say that, just a
rush of peace. Yes, that's the message. If the purpose
is we either get it right or get it wrong,
we're all eternal. We go somewhere for eternity, either really
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bad place or really good place. Why do we have
to do this? There's a gift beyond that, the gift
of a day. Don't go around saying I am Charlie
because you weren't fearfully wonderfully made to be. Charlie. You
were fearfully, wonderfully made to be. You hit the floor
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with gratitude. I get to live a day. I have
the gift of my wife, not Charlie's. I have the
gift of my husband. I have the gift of my children,
I had the gift of my home. I have the
gift of my faith in God's faithfulness throughout my life.
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And so do you look around not being Charlie, being
you in your gifting. You live a life of gratitude,
caring and loving those around you. Love your wife, love
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your kids, love your friends, love your coworkers, be compassionate,
feel their pain, walk with them in their pain. And
if you spend your life in gratitude, living truly, living,
not drifting, living, loving, serving, that would make Charlie a
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life changing, country changing and that would be proper response
and honoring. So I'll play you some clips, but I
would encourage you most of all, Everyone have your individual moment,
because some will say I could never do those things
and you were never called to do them. But what
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are you called to do? What is your gifting? How
do you view this day? Thank God for it, be
grateful for it, be purposeful in it, make a difference
to those around you. Just one of the things I
kind of wish someone would have said yesterday, this is
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your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Your voice matters most.
Let's start with Keith. Larry Arden was great.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It is short to the point Stacy Sheridan Charley Staffer
who relocated to Arizona. She had a very heartfelt personal story.
I felt that Don Juniors was way too political and
way too long. His father's way too long. But Erica's
was just powerful and just heartbreaking. But it was powerful.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's kind of a consensus, I think. Randy in Indiana, No, I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Did not watch any of it yesterday. I decided that
the best thing I could do for me was to
listen to you today and I get all the highlights,
but everything that was important, and not worry about the rest.
I appreciate everything you're doing.
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Michael.
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Thank you.
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I have a good Thank you so much. Boy. Do
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Charlie Kirk Memorial service, the tone, the message, the length,
the best moments, and what the left's response might be. Now,
if you were under some delusion that a remarkable revival
has happened and all the divisions in America are healed
through this one person's life and tragic death. I think
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he may have overwished things, but we are right to
wonder what God's up to. I think David will help
us stay focused on the right things. President Trump, several,
oh not yet, President Trump, and several members of the administration.
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talkback button. Let's start with the John who says, good morning, Michael.
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I just want to share something really stuck out to
me at church yesterday morning. After everything that's happened with
Charlie and the boldness he showed in his faith, seeing
this verse pop up in the sermon yesterday really hit
me hard. It really challenges me to be more bold
like Charlie every day. Have a great day. And of
course the scripture was asked for twenty nine and now Lord,
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look at their threats and grant to your servants to
speak with the boldness. Yeah, that's a calling not from
Charlie from God's living Word. You were called to be light,
you were called to be salt. And the only thing
I would bring up Charlie in is I would say,
and find that great balance of truth salt, but with
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the love and the compassion they have to be balanced well.
But great email And for me it's gratitude. For him,
it's boldness for you. That's why we have the talk
back line. I think David's first.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
There were too many speakers who spoke for too long
and that leaned a little too hard into politics. But
it was inspiring to see the Gospel preach to so
many millions so powerfully.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think that's probably. I think David speaks for
me a little bit or a lot. Bill.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hey, Michael, I was watching most of the coverage yesterday,
and the speech that got me the most was Erica
and her forgiveness for the shooter. But I also enjoyed
what Rubio and many other speakers said. Felt like it
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was mostly a church service and that's what it should
have been.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, Roger wrote, you beat me to the punch when
you asked what I felt about Charlie Kirk's life and death.
I almost immediately thought gratitude, great minds maybe, or we're
listening to the same spirit your call have a safe
and productive day. So yeah, keep you know. I really,
as I said in the in the first half hour,
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it's it's weird. This is your morning show. So I
wake up in the morning most interested in what you heard,
most interested in what you think, most interested in how
you're processing it. Unfortunately, by way of email and research,
I can tell you a lot of you tune in
wanting to know what I think. And I think the
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length is not reasonable. So nobody was going to take
this in its entirety. And at that point, you know,
the memorial experience was just for those in the building
because consumption and wise, most are going to get in
clips and that's not always in context. I prayed that
they would maintain the right tone and message, and I
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just wonder where we go from here, and in that
I'm more specific, I wonder what God's doing. That's what
I think we need to figure out, not what Charlie did,
what God's doing, because that's how Charlie lived. For me personally,
it was my response is not to be Charlie. My
response is to be grateful for my life. See each
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day as a gift. Focus on serving my wife, my children,
being grateful for my home, the gift of faith in
my life, the gift of God's faithfulness throughout my life,
and not being Charlie, but just being me in my
gifting to those around me. Keep using the talk back
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at the iHeartRadio app to see a little microphone you press,
It counts you down three to two. We don't rot
on hold waiting to talk and talk radio anymore. The
talk back instantly brings you to the table and you
can also email Michaelde at iHeartMedia dot com. Well, I
come from an old school. I would focus on the
positive and for me, the way I would do that
is if you could not listen to all five hours,
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and I don't know anyone who did besides me so far,
this would be a six minute portion, I would be
sad you missed. I don't think anyone This is just
my opinion. I don't think anyone spoke just the right
amount of time, with just the right tone, just the
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right message, and really nailed down what we do with
this better than Tucker Carlson. I file myself thanking Tucker
carl thanking God for Tucker Carlson's voice and tone the most,
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and I wonder in six minutes if you'll agree listen.
But it's real.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
This is the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I don't.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Whatever happens next in America, I hope it's in this
direction because God is here and you can feel it.
And Charlie would have loved this, not just because he
loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was
a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my
favorite story ever. So it's about two thousand years ago
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in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking
about the people in power, and he starts doing the
worst thing that you can do, which is telling the
truth about people. And they hate it, and they just
go bonkers. They hate it, and they become obsessed with
making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've
got to shut this guy up. You can just sort
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of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with
a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about
what do we do about this guy telling the truth
about us? We must make him stop talking. And there's
always one guy with the bright idea, and I can
just hear him say I've got it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Why don't we just kill him?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
That'll shut him up, that'll fix the problem. It doesn't
work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted,
and the beatitudes tell it. I think the most crisp
believe everything is sort of the opposite of way you
think it's.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Going to be.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Lessen are those who mourn for they will be comforted.
That is true, and you can feel it here. The
thing about Charlie's message, I thought a lot about it,
and I'm trying not to be emotional because, in addition
everything else, he was a wonderful man and a decent man,
and one of those rare people you meet who you
just groove with in conversation and have these very intense
conversations that you don't stop thinking about, which.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is my experience with him.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he
was bringing the Gospel to the country. He was doing
the thing that the people in charge hate most, which
is calling for them to repent. So how is Charlie's
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message different? And Charlie was a political person who was
deeply interested in coalition building, and getting the right people
in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically.
But he also knew the politics is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest questions. Actually, take a moment.
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Take that in. I want to back up so you
can hear it again. This is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest question. That vast improvements are
possible politically, but he also knew the politics is not
the I'll answer. It can't answer the deepest questions. Actually
that the only real solution is Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And the reason. It's really simple.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other
people and getting them to change Christianity the gospel message,
the message of Jesus begins with repentance. Christianity calls upon
you to change our core. Prayer given to us by Jesus,
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the Lord's Prayer, demands that we forgive other people. But
preceding that is a request for our forgiveness. In other words,
forgive us our sins. Meditate on what we've done wrong,
how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to
forgive other people. That is a call to change our
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our hearts from Jesus, and that is the only way forward.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
In this country.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That is the only solution to where we all know
we're going. And Charlie knew where we were going without that.
And that is not a call for being politically passive,
of course not. I stood in many stages with Charlie
calling for various people to be elected, particularly Donald Trump,
and I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's only an.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Acknowledgement that what Charlie was really saying is that change begins,
the only change that matters. When we repent of our sins.
We meet a recognition that the real problem is me
and how fallen I am. And that was the reason
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that Charlie was fearless at all times, truly fearless to
his last moment. He was unafraid, He was not defensive,
and there was no hate in his heart. I know
that because I've got a little hate compartment in my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And I would often.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Expressed that to Charlie about various people, and he would
always say, always say, that's a sad person, that's a
broken person. That's a person who needs help, that's a
person needs Jesus.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He said that in private.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Because he meant it, so I guess I would just
say this gathering in God's presence, God's very obvious presence
in this room, the presence of Jesus is a reminder
of what we've known for two thousand years, which is
any attempt to extinguish the light causes it to burn
brighter every single time.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So as we.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
As we proceed into whatever comes next, and clearly something's
coming next, remember this moment. Remember being in a room
with the Holy Spirit coming like a tuning fork. This
is the way right here, this is the way, And
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that is what Charlie Kirk was saying underneath it all.
Thank you and God bless.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That may be the best sermon I've ever heard in
my life. That is the maybe the best commentary I've
ever heard in my life. That five minutes and fifty
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four seconds. If I was Lucifer boy, that's the one
I hope you're watching football. That's the one I hope
the next day no one plays. In its entirety. That
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was the highest tribute to Charlie Kirk. That was the
right tone, That was the message, that was the truth,
That was the way forward. Take this as negative if
you want no one else struck that tone. No one
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else had, that message that six minutes made most real
by Charlie living it, especially the last few years, makes
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it all worth it. If the real question is not
what Turning Point's going to do next, not what's gonna
be an emotional political momentum, God help us if that's
all we were looking for, because it won't last. And frankly,
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for those of you rightfully concerned that you can all gather,
you can televise this for five hours, but at the
end of the day, Charlie is not here, and we
don't have him to move forward with, and nobody knows
who's going to take his place. Because if you don't
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have Charlie on campus tomorrow, you don't have Charlie on
campus tomorrow. That season may have passed, that moment is gone.
Pardon my crudeness, but that political effectiveness is gone. And
I don't know, and I'm pretty good at knowing. I
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don't know anybody that can replace him. But I know
what God maybe up to is talking to me and
you about our sin, not the lefts our sin, not
everyone else's, and what we do with that, because until
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we get right with God, we can't get right with others,
and until we get right with God and we get
right with others, we can't be right collectively. There were
so many themes in that I joked with David s naughty.
I could do three hours on those six minutes, and
probably should, because you can only make God known as
you know him. A bunch of people running around with
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Charlie Kirk's boldness without his brokenness, Charlie Kirk's boldness without
the love and compassion, Charlie Kirk's boldness without the ultimate
Charlie Kirk vision, which is, I don't care what you
say on earth, I don't care what you say about me.
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You're broken. These five hours bring anyone closer to God?
Did it make Merik? I mean? One of the ways
I looked at these five hours was would these five
hours feel welcoming to somebody who may have been on
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the other side, because Charlie always made him feel that way, Welcome,
welcomed as they are, and welcomed to join a right thinking.
Was it an inviting spirit? I thought the very beginning was,
I thought, Tucker was, But you can't be Charlie, That's
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not what you were. Fearfully, wonderfully and gifted in may
to be made now you were purposed with the same
commissions and covenant and calling. I think the response to
Charlie Kirk should not be a political momentum. I think
it should be a personal challenge, and I don't think
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anybody captured that like Zucker Carlson. We're all in this together.
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How can you make such an assumption? Hey, hey, hey,
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we are I gotta go. I'm on the air show.
See what's going on? Who was that Michael Pittman, no
receiver of the Indianapolis called No say, he can tell
just by looking at me on zoom. I'm not ready
to perform today. How did he get in there? I
don't know. Uh, if you're not, if you're not about
what we're joking. Michael Pittman was my fantasy team, yeah,
(01:01):
said he knew they were going to beat the Titans
in warm up. He could just see they didn't show
up to play, you know what I was, and he
was right, they didn't. It was in the third level
of that stadium, and I could see all the way
up there that they were. They were not ready to play.
Titans lost forty one to twenty. Rams blew a twenty
six to seven second half lead to the Eagles. Hey
(01:25):
j Brown Baby Cardinals fourth quarter safety ended up being
the difference forty nine. Ers came back in one sixteen
to fifteen Vikings with a scoop and score a pick
six five turnovers in all, one forty eight to ten
over the Bengals. They're one of our only winners. And
how about the Browns finally a winning field goal for
a change, and Dicker the kicker with the victory for
(01:48):
the Chadges over the Broncos. I hope you had a
lot of rest this weekend. All the focus, of course,
was on the Charlie Kirkkirk Memorial. We will have a
lot on that today. But Jeffrey acknowledging, yes, the Titans
are terrible, as terrible as I puty that they would
be a major announcement about autism expected today at the
White House. Charlie Kirk remembered by tens of thousands in Arizona,
(02:13):
Erica Kirk announcing she forgives her husband's accused assassin from
the podium. Senate Majority Leader Chucky Schumer's as Republicans will
be to blame for a government shutdown or to thank
because if followed us is leave us with just the
necessary programs of government. Well that's better than what we're doing.
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It's the first day of fall, my favorite season by far,
I know, really yeah, today's first day of fall, and
bre Tennis will feature that today. I don't know. I
just love fall, the temperatures, the clothing, the colors, the
everything about it. And today it's officially here all right
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on the airstreaming live on your iHeart app. This is
your morning show. I'm Michael del Jorna. There's two ways
to address this. One wait until you ask a question
and then answer it. Because A it's your morning show
that makes this different. I don't want it to be
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about the company. I don't want it to be about
the radio station. I don't want it to be about
the morning hosts or staff. I want it to be
about you. We're here to serve you, so the questions
really belong to you. Did you watch? Was it possible?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I watched all five hours and eighteen minutes of the
Charlie Kirk memorial. I did that because of what I
do for a living. I don't know that I could
have done that any other way. And part of me wonders,
were you able to watch all five hours? Or will
(04:07):
Charlie Kirk's memorial the message and celebration of his life
the exegetive? Well, now, how then do we live? Is
that going to be determined by algorithms and clips that
you mostly see yesterday and today? Did anybody watch each
(04:30):
speaker or the entire program in its context and by design?
Could they We live in a time with an attention
span of about fifteen seconds. I am frightened to the
bone to say out loud to you, right, that's literally
the research we have the attention span of fifteen seconds.
(04:57):
Look at you could have very powerful conversation about can
a motion picture properly tell a story anymore? When you're
asking people to sit down without a phone, without posting
something about themselves and pay attention for longer than fifteen seconds?
(05:18):
And if you're going to have that many speakers, should
they speak that long? Each those are the things I'm
curious about. Did you think it was too long? Were
you able to watch the whole thing? Did it strike
the right tone? And when I say right tone, I
(05:39):
look at that from two different prisms. One is the
prism of Charlie. As I said, for the purposes of
what I do for a living, I don't even know
how to begin to put a number on how many
hours I've spent watching literally every single video clip available
(06:01):
of Charlie Kirk. You want the honest to God truth.
So I'm prepared for whatever the enemies are going to
throw at us. Because everything Charlie, I pray to God
this never happens to me that everything I ever said
at eighteen twenty two, twenty four, twenty five does it
(06:22):
come back to be the measure of my life. I
always found the right tone. I virtually every time found
the right message, and in the latter years a level
(06:43):
of gifting, love and eloquence. My wife has a this
is what I wanted to start the show with, which
she calls her delicate balance. Okay, so waitress comes pours
our coffee, and then Andrea goes to work like a
mad scientist with the sweeteners and the creams getting it
(07:07):
absolutely perfect the way she likes it right, and then
she's sipping away and enjoying away. And if someone should
come along and just put like another two ounces in,
she goes through the roof because you have just ruined
her delicate you ruin the recipe. That is right. Charlie
(07:30):
always had the delicate balance of the perfect amount of
salt and the perfect amount of love, the perfect amount
of truth, and the perfect amount of patience and compassion.
His message was always clear, and whether he changed a
(07:52):
heart or mind, he impacted it. I saw a meme
and I thought, wow, that's worth us pondering. You probably
see this guy all the time. They used this meme
and they type different messages. But the guy using the
(08:12):
white board and it says, Charlie Kirk wasn't killed because
of what he had to say, And that's been a
central message. There's a lot of people that say the
things Charlie said, they didn't get killed. Why did Charlie?
(08:33):
Was it because they delivered an election, a presidential national election.
That's what the president and vice president are saying. They
don't win without Charlie Kirk. Did he get killed for that?
And I don't even think that's it. I think the
meme's right. Kirk wasn't killed because of what he had
(08:53):
to say. He was killed because the young were listening
to him. I don't I think that at the end
of the day, was yesterday about really celebrating this gift
(09:14):
from God? Was it about preserving this political machine or
turning point? Was it about turning his death into a revival?
(09:38):
You can't announce a revival, you can't cheer a revival
on Was it the right tone, was it the right message?
Did it match Charlie and his vision? And where do
(10:02):
we go from here? So my whole point is I
come here and I'm wanting to know those answers from you.
You come here and I often get this in emails,
and you wanted to come from me. Well, here's what
you're gonna get from me. Depends on the speaker. I'm
(10:29):
going to feature two because those are the two. Have
you ever watched a movie or something and it's so great,
but if the person you love isn't there, you can't
quite enjoy it. If you weren't able to watch all
five hours. These are the nine minutes I'd want you
to hear. I think these are the nine minutes that
(10:51):
perfectly celebrated Charlie's life, perfectly found Charlie's tone, perfectly stayed
on Charlie's message, and by doing so, perfectly met the
delicate balance of memorializing and paying tribute. I'm going to
(11:14):
do that. The other thing is, I want you, whether
you watched all five hours or didn't, what do you
do with Charlie Kirk's life and death, example and message?
What do we do with all of this? In the
(11:38):
course of that memorial. I mean, I saw Charlie Kirk
go from future president to a founding father. I mean,
you can go a lot of places with us, but
where are you going to go with it? It's a
reasonable place to go with it. Because some may have
watched that memorial and said, well, I don't know history
like that, I don't know the Bible like that. I
(11:59):
can't think quit I got my feet, I can't go
to a university and debate people. And I can't stop
being an electrician and account or whatever whatever I'd have
to do to spend every waking moment. Some of you
may have watched and said, I would never make those choices.
I wouldn't spend two hundred and eighty days on the road. Yeah,
(12:21):
Charlie still makes a demand on you. Don't turn and
walk away for whatever reason would shuffle you along. So
I'm standing outside and I look at God and I say, God,
(12:41):
what do you want me to do with Charlie? What
am I to do with this? And I felt God
speak to my heart the most powerful response to Charlie
Kirk's life and murder, just be grateful for your life.
(13:07):
And the minute I felt him say that, just a
rush of peace. Yes, that's the message. If the purpose
is we either get it right or get it wrong,
we're all eternal. We go somewhere for eternity, either really
(13:27):
bad place or really good place. Why do we have
to do this? There's a gift beyond that, the gift
of a day. Don't go around saying I am Charlie
because you weren't fearfully wonderfully made to be. Charlie. You
were fearfully, wonderfully made to be. You hit the floor
(13:50):
with gratitude. I get to live a day. I have
the gift of my wife, not Charlie's. I have the
gift of my husband. I have the gift of my children,
I had the gift of my home. I have the
gift of my faith in God's faithfulness throughout my life.
(14:10):
And so do you look around not being Charlie, being
you in your gifting. You live a life of gratitude,
caring and loving those around you. Love your wife, love
(14:31):
your kids, love your friends, love your coworkers, be compassionate,
feel their pain, walk with them in their pain. And
if you spend your life in gratitude, living truly, living,
not drifting, living, loving, serving, that would make Charlie a
(14:58):
life changing, country changing and that would be proper response
and honoring. So I'll play you some clips, but I
would encourage you most of all, Everyone have your individual moment,
because some will say I could never do those things
and you were never called to do them. But what
(15:20):
are you called to do? What is your gifting? How
do you view this day? Thank God for it, be
grateful for it, be purposeful in it, make a difference
to those around you. Just one of the things I
kind of wish someone would have said yesterday, this is
(15:43):
your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Your voice matters most.
Let's start with Keith. Larry Arden was great.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
It is short to the point Stacy Sheridan Charley Staffer
who relocated to Arizona. She had a very heartfelt personal story.
I felt that Don Juniors was way too political and
way too long. His father's way too long. But Erica's
was just powerful and just heartbreaking. But it was powerful.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's kind of a consensus, I think. Randy in Indiana, No, I.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Did not watch any of it yesterday. I decided that
the best thing I could do for me was to
listen to you today and I get all the highlights,
but everything that was important, and not worry about the rest.
I appreciate everything you're doing.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I have a good Thank you so much. Boy. Do
I have a segment for you, Randy coming up next.
The two that spoke to me the most. This is
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Our Lord twenty twenty five, President Trump has reached an
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has that story. David Sinnati, our senior contributor, will join
us to review the spiritual and political significance of the
(18:07):
Charlie Kirk Memorial service, the tone, the message, the length,
the best moments, and what the left's response might be. Now,
if you were under some delusion that a remarkable revival
has happened and all the divisions in America are healed
through this one person's life and tragic death. I think
(18:31):
he may have overwished things, but we are right to
wonder what God's up to. I think David will help
us stay focused on the right things. President Trump, several,
oh not yet, President Trump, and several members of the administration.
(18:54):
We're on hand for the memorial service. We'll get White
House correspondent John Decker's take as well. It is the
first day of fall, my favorite season. Just another thing
to be grateful for it today. And we can't have
your morning show without your voice. Either email me Michael
d at iHeartMedia dot com, or you can use the
talkback button. Let's start with the John who says, good morning, Michael.
(19:16):
I just want to share something really stuck out to
me at church yesterday morning. After everything that's happened with
Charlie and the boldness he showed in his faith, seeing
this verse pop up in the sermon yesterday really hit
me hard. It really challenges me to be more bold
like Charlie every day. Have a great day. And of
course the scripture was asked for twenty nine and now Lord,
(19:39):
look at their threats and grant to your servants to
speak with the boldness. Yeah, that's a calling not from
Charlie from God's living Word. You were called to be light,
you were called to be salt. And the only thing
I would bring up Charlie in is I would say,
and find that great balance of truth salt, but with
(20:01):
the love and the compassion they have to be balanced well.
But great email And for me it's gratitude. For him,
it's boldness for you. That's why we have the talk
back line. I think David's first.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
There were too many speakers who spoke for too long
and that leaned a little too hard into politics. But
it was inspiring to see the Gospel preach to so
many millions so powerfully.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, I think that's probably. I think David speaks for
me a little bit or a lot. Bill.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Hey, Michael, I was watching most of the coverage yesterday,
and the speech that got me the most was Erica
and her forgiveness for the shooter. But I also enjoyed
what Rubio and many other speakers said. Felt like it
(21:00):
was mostly a church service and that's what it should
have been.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, Roger wrote, you beat me to the punch when
you asked what I felt about Charlie Kirk's life and death.
I almost immediately thought gratitude, great minds maybe, or we're
listening to the same spirit your call have a safe
and productive day. So yeah, keep you know. I really,
as I said in the in the first half hour,
(21:25):
it's it's weird. This is your morning show. So I
wake up in the morning most interested in what you heard,
most interested in what you think, most interested in how
you're processing it. Unfortunately, by way of email and research,
I can tell you a lot of you tune in
wanting to know what I think. And I think the
(21:46):
length is not reasonable. So nobody was going to take
this in its entirety. And at that point, you know,
the memorial experience was just for those in the building
because consumption and wise, most are going to get in
clips and that's not always in context. I prayed that
they would maintain the right tone and message, and I
(22:10):
just wonder where we go from here, and in that
I'm more specific, I wonder what God's doing. That's what
I think we need to figure out, not what Charlie did,
what God's doing, because that's how Charlie lived. For me personally,
it was my response is not to be Charlie. My
response is to be grateful for my life. See each
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day as a gift. Focus on serving my wife, my children,
being grateful for my home, the gift of faith in
my life, the gift of God's faithfulness throughout my life,
and not being Charlie, but just being me in my
gifting to those around me. Keep using the talk back
(22:56):
at the iHeartRadio app to see a little microphone you press,
It counts you down three to two. We don't rot
on hold waiting to talk and talk radio anymore. The
talk back instantly brings you to the table and you
can also email Michaelde at iHeartMedia dot com. Well, I
come from an old school. I would focus on the
positive and for me, the way I would do that
is if you could not listen to all five hours,
(23:17):
and I don't know anyone who did besides me so far,
this would be a six minute portion, I would be
sad you missed. I don't think anyone This is just
my opinion. I don't think anyone spoke just the right
amount of time, with just the right tone, just the
(23:42):
right message, and really nailed down what we do with
this better than Tucker Carlson. I file myself thanking Tucker
carl thanking God for Tucker Carlson's voice and tone the most,
(24:05):
and I wonder in six minutes if you'll agree listen.
But it's real.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
This is the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I don't.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Whatever happens next in America, I hope it's in this
direction because God is here and you can feel it.
And Charlie would have loved this, not just because he
loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was
a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my
favorite story ever. So it's about two thousand years ago
(24:37):
in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking
about the people in power, and he starts doing the
worst thing that you can do, which is telling the
truth about people. And they hate it, and they just
go bonkers. They hate it, and they become obsessed with
making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've
got to shut this guy up. You can just sort
(25:00):
of picture the scene in a lamp lit room with
a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about
what do we do about this guy telling the truth
about us? We must make him stop talking. And there's
always one guy with the bright idea, and I can
just hear him say I've got it.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Why don't we just kill him?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
That'll shut him up, that'll fix the problem. It doesn't
work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted,
and the beatitudes tell it. I think the most crisp
believe everything is sort of the opposite of way you
think it's.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Going to be.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Lessen are those who mourn for they will be comforted.
That is true, and you can feel it here. The
thing about Charlie's message, I thought a lot about it,
and I'm trying not to be emotional because, in addition
everything else, he was a wonderful man and a decent man,
and one of those rare people you meet who you
just groove with in conversation and have these very intense
conversations that you don't stop thinking about, which.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Is my experience with him.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he
was bringing the Gospel to the country. He was doing
the thing that the people in charge hate most, which
is calling for them to repent. So how is Charlie's
(26:21):
message different? And Charlie was a political person who was
deeply interested in coalition building, and getting the right people
in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically.
But he also knew the politics is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest questions. Actually, take a moment.
(26:45):
Take that in. I want to back up so you
can hear it again. This is not the final answer.
It can't answer the deepest question. That vast improvements are
possible politically, but he also knew the politics is not
the I'll answer. It can't answer the deepest questions. Actually
that the only real solution is Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And the reason. It's really simple.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
Politics at its core is a process of critiquing other
people and getting them to change Christianity the gospel message,
the message of Jesus begins with repentance. Christianity calls upon
you to change our core. Prayer given to us by Jesus,
(27:38):
the Lord's Prayer, demands that we forgive other people. But
preceding that is a request for our forgiveness. In other words,
forgive us our sins. Meditate on what we've done wrong,
how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to
forgive other people. That is a call to change our
(28:00):
our hearts from Jesus, and that is the only way forward.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
In this country.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
That is the only solution to where we all know
we're going. And Charlie knew where we were going without that.
And that is not a call for being politically passive,
of course not. I stood in many stages with Charlie
calling for various people to be elected, particularly Donald Trump,
and I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's only an.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Acknowledgement that what Charlie was really saying is that change begins,
the only change that matters. When we repent of our sins.
We meet a recognition that the real problem is me
and how fallen I am. And that was the reason
(28:44):
that Charlie was fearless at all times, truly fearless to
his last moment. He was unafraid, He was not defensive,
and there was no hate in his heart. I know
that because I've got a little hate compartment in my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And I would often.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Expressed that to Charlie about various people, and he would
always say, always say, that's a sad person, that's a
broken person. That's a person who needs help, that's a
person needs Jesus.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
He said that in private.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Because he meant it, so I guess I would just
say this gathering in God's presence, God's very obvious presence
in this room, the presence of Jesus is a reminder
of what we've known for two thousand years, which is
any attempt to extinguish the light causes it to burn
brighter every single time.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So as we.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
As we proceed into whatever comes next, and clearly something's
coming next, remember this moment. Remember being in a room
with the Holy Spirit coming like a tuning fork. This
is the way right here, this is the way, And
(30:03):
that is what Charlie Kirk was saying underneath it all.
Thank you and God bless.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
That may be the best sermon I've ever heard in
my life. That is the maybe the best commentary I've
ever heard in my life. That five minutes and fifty
(30:38):
four seconds. If I was Lucifer boy, that's the one
I hope you're watching football. That's the one I hope
the next day no one plays. In its entirety. That
(31:04):
was the highest tribute to Charlie Kirk. That was the
right tone, That was the message, that was the truth,
That was the way forward. Take this as negative if
you want no one else struck that tone. No one
(31:27):
else had, that message that six minutes made most real
by Charlie living it, especially the last few years, makes
(31:48):
it all worth it. If the real question is not
what Turning Point's going to do next, not what's gonna
be an emotional political momentum, God help us if that's
all we were looking for, because it won't last. And frankly,
(32:09):
for those of you rightfully concerned that you can all gather,
you can televise this for five hours, but at the
end of the day, Charlie is not here, and we
don't have him to move forward with, and nobody knows
who's going to take his place. Because if you don't
(32:30):
have Charlie on campus tomorrow, you don't have Charlie on
campus tomorrow. That season may have passed, that moment is gone.
Pardon my crudeness, but that political effectiveness is gone. And
I don't know, and I'm pretty good at knowing. I
(32:52):
don't know anybody that can replace him. But I know
what God maybe up to is talking to me and
you about our sin, not the lefts our sin, not
everyone else's, and what we do with that, because until
(33:14):
we get right with God, we can't get right with others,
and until we get right with God and we get
right with others, we can't be right collectively. There were
so many themes in that I joked with David s naughty.
I could do three hours on those six minutes, and
probably should, because you can only make God known as
you know him. A bunch of people running around with
(33:35):
Charlie Kirk's boldness without his brokenness, Charlie Kirk's boldness without
the love and compassion, Charlie Kirk's boldness without the ultimate
Charlie Kirk vision, which is, I don't care what you
say on earth, I don't care what you say about me.
(33:56):
You're broken. These five hours bring anyone closer to God?
Did it make Merik? I mean? One of the ways
I looked at these five hours was would these five
hours feel welcoming to somebody who may have been on
(34:17):
the other side, because Charlie always made him feel that way, Welcome,
welcomed as they are, and welcomed to join a right thinking.
Was it an inviting spirit? I thought the very beginning was,
I thought, Tucker was, But you can't be Charlie, That's
(34:46):
not what you were. Fearfully, wonderfully and gifted in may
to be made now you were purposed with the same
commissions and covenant and calling. I think the response to
Charlie Kirk should not be a political momentum. I think
it should be a personal challenge, and I don't think
(35:06):
anybody captured that like Zucker Carlson. We're all in this together.
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