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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Charny seven minutes after the hour and good morning. Welcome
to Wednesday, September to twenty fourth. You have all old
twenty twenty five. The left has officially responded to the
Charlie Kirk assassination. He's not the victim. They are. How's
that going to play out in the public at large.
We'll talk about that with David Snati coming up in minutes.
(01:01):
The President, he's not thrilled. Jimmy Kimmel's back live on
the air. Google is offering YouTube ac counts that were
permanently banned for political speech, the ability to reinstate, and
President Trump survived a broken escalator, a broken teleprompter to
leave his remarks and his footprint all over the UN yesterday.
(01:23):
And some of that may or may not have had
anything to do with another plot to disrupt New York's
cell phone service. Roy O'Neil's been keeping an eye on
all of it. He's our your morning show National Corresponding.
Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning, Michael. This cell phone
story is crazy. The Secret Service was investigating swatting. You know,
that's where someone calls and says there's a kidnapping or
(01:43):
something's happening at somebody's house, in this case involving members
of the Trump administration. The Secret Service was investigating that
with this new unit they set up just specifically to
look at these kind of tech crimes, and that's what
led them up to New York City, where they've discovered
office space and apartments that were filled with hundreds of
computer servers, one hundred thousand SIM cards.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And we really don't know what it was for.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Was it for some attack related to the UN General
Assembly this week?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was it something that was going to.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Follow a different kind of attack to disrupt communications or
first responders, or was it a network that was trying
to allow communications to happen sort of off the grid.
A lot of unanswered questions. In fact, we don't even
know who's behind this, But the real concern is that
there are a lot more farms like this all across
the country.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean, my first take, and you covered it
all there expertly. My first take was, remember that morning
we got up and AT and T was down, and
I mean it was like everybody react like was the
end of the world, and that was just AT and T,
And I thought, Okay, is that somebody trying to do
that again. In the case of AT and T. Just
(02:55):
for the record, it was a what they call that
when you do the software update, or yeah, software update,
than what that glitched? But that was my first thought.
And then my second thought was, well, wait a minute.
I mean, even though I thought the escalator in Fox's
coverage and even to some degree Caroline, her response to
the escalator the teleprompter was a bit too much. But
(03:15):
then I started putting it all together, and I started thinking, Hey,
maybe this was to cut off communications. Maybe this was
just part one of a seven part plan to do
something really serious. And then I think you just touched
on the most frightening part about it is that there
might be what you call farms like that throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, right, And they found these different operations, again, more
than three hundred servers and with the sim cards capable
of generating what thirty million text messages a minute, one
hundred million phone calls every twelve minutes, So that's so
much traffic that it would shut down any cellular network
and that would really mess up everything. And again, how
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many of these are out there in other places? The
one thing that really struck me was this place neat
as a pin. Right, No radio engineer I know has
ever done anything well you've never seen my work, Rory
all right, even in the Chris Berry studios. But yeah,
it's yeah, so remarkably precise in the way it was
(04:16):
all set up, So it doesn't look like it was
real amateurs here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Somebody knew what they were doing, no, but at least
they found it, and there's got to be a lot
of evidence or the beginning of the journey to figure
out who put.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It there and have one hundred thousand sim cards to
go through. So it is a mountain of Hopefully there's
some AI out there that can help us along, but
we've already seen touches. Perhaps this is Russia, China, drug
cartels in Mexico. They've gotten a little taste of all
that kind of stuff on the phone traffic through these things.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Rory will be back in the third hour. We'll talk
about Jimmy Kimmel's comeback. Thank you, Rory. It's eleven minutes
after the hour. Our senior contributor Davidsonadius joining us, and
we've got the Kimmel comeback. We've got this whole hijacking
of emotion and their rative to where the left is
now the victim and freedom of speech is what's really
at stake when you know that's narrative. Yes, reality is
(05:09):
Late Night as a business model does not exist maybe
for anyone any longer. And I brought up my two
noster del journos yesterday because you can see. You know,
if you truly don't take the narrative bait, David, and
you keep your eyes on the facts, they not only
lead you to the truth, but you can always know
what's coming next because you know what the response to
(05:31):
truth is going to be what's the next shenanigan or lie?
And so I said, what does Jimmy Kimmel do when
he comes back? My guess is his first words will
be where was I before I was interrupted? And I
hit it right on the head. It was the actual
first words out of his mouth. And then I said,
all right, congratulations, Disney you got your way. Jimmy Kimmel's back.
You get to keep losing millions of dollars because the
(05:51):
audience is eighty percent less, the revenue is only twice
what his salary is. What are you going to do next?
Jack up the prices at Disney World. No, they jacked
him up at Disney Plus and Hulu. I mean, you
can't make this stuff up to pay for this. That mouse,
he's always at.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It, all right, goofy, jack up the prices on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Will show them. Obviously, this isn't about freedom of speech,
and none of this is going to be free for subscribers.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, and a lot of times I think the mouse
is actually trying to eat Walt. Yeah, yeah, it's it's
there's a lot of sadness there, you know, my goad.
I'm thinking about this a lot, and you know, I've
had the privilege of talking about it a lot, and
I'm very grateful for that. I can't you see this coming,
(06:39):
and you try to apply lessons of history, even of
your own life, and you say, sometimes it's better to
wait than to say it out loud. Sometimes it's better
to just let this storm pass through. I agree, and
hold on to the basic things that you believe in
and the things that really matter, because in about ten
(06:59):
days every thing looks different. Well, here we are, and
what you have is people walking back things all over
the place that I'll bet you right and left. Whatever
dividers you want to have on this, they wish they
wouldn't have said, or they would have said them differently
once their emotions and their shock and their passion and
their outrage was ended. Now, so like do you well,
(07:22):
there there's the parental lecture around the breakfast table on
your morning show. I mean, it's important, It really truly
is important because most of what we're now negotiating with
in regards to headlines, it's just overreaction.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
How do you do that? By the way, Like for me,
I don't ever think of anybody as not real, Like
Jimmy Kimmel is a real person, just like just like
Charlie Kirk was a real person. All right, So Jimmy
is caught up in a derangement sentem, and I know
what ginned him up. He lives in Hollywood. This is
(07:57):
what everybody around him tells him, This is what everybody
around him reads, this is what everyone around them sees.
This is why I get he's a victim of the
Matrix is what he's a victim of and Trump derangement.
But he's a real human being. Do I think he
was trying to make light of Charlie Kirk's death. No,
I think he's obsessed. Yeah, I think he was obsessed
and laser focused on being anti Maga and anti Trump,
(08:19):
and it led him to a bad joke. Now, if
he's sorry, I can forgive him, but it doesn't change
the business model, and it doesn't change the fact that
I don't watch and I'm not going to watch. And
the bigger problem, most America doesn't watch TV that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, And there a whole layer of stories that are
worth talking about in this Because I was thinking again
this morning about how you and I were persecuted prosecuted,
canceled throughout COVID, and so many of our friends were
as well, because we were willing to listen to physicians
who had fifty years of experience in virology and bacteriology
(08:54):
and immunology and people who were actuarials in regard to pandemics,
and we were willing to consider all the information and
not just listen to Fauci and Burks and how we
were tracked and and we were, we were canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And we were on sorrows' list every time we would
say hi to them.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, but there was a point in time where we
had a hard time crossing over state borders because.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And this wasn't and this wasn't political at all. Right.
In fact, our vice president at the time, Mike Pence,
who was charged with overseeing this by the then president
Donald Trump, comes out with this statement, stay home, stay safe.
This is the new normal. And then I started seeing
(09:41):
it commercials like it was all pre orchestrated, And that
statement alone was not well with my soul. What do
you mean a virus? A virus is never a new normal.
You never defeat a virus. You get the virus. And
because of the way you've lived or what your current
condition is. Sometimes that virus can be the end. You
(10:01):
either get it and die, or you get it and
live and you're immune. That's how viruses work. We learned
to live with them, you never defeat them. So what's
this stay home in order to stay safe, and this
would never be a new normal. And so then I
wanted to just check out all of these models. So
I went to the University of Washington's website to see
what was in their model, and they wouldn't show you
(10:23):
because if you don't have real data, and we didn't
outside of Italy, you're putting assumptions in I don't think
fault she was ever honest with what was in the assumptions,
but it was nothing like it looked. And so that
began our journey and we realized it was one big
All I could tell you was they were doing with
COVID what they could never get us, the American people,
to do with global warming, and that was be fearful
(10:46):
and controllable.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, and we went to the Ohio State model and
we worked the math with experts in the fields, and
when we came back out and said, your model doesn't
make any sense, well, Michael, you would have thought that
we literally were in armed warfare with Republican lawmakers because
everyone bought the illusion in those communities and not everyone
(11:10):
in the country. We have friends who lost their jobs,
we have friends that lost their companies, and the models
were wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I had a governor I lost his friendship overreaction.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, at the highest levels, it was wrong, and it
was Republicans and Democrats alike doing it. So I know
what it's like to be censored. I know what it's
like to be persecuted, and you know what, it doesn't
fit good in the human model, and it certainly doesn't
fit good in the American model. Now, the companies that
distribute Jimmy Kimmel have the right to do whatever they
(11:45):
want to do. It's their company, it's their money, it's
their risk. And I don't watch them. They don't want
they don't know me a darned thing. But I don't
have a problem with guys like Adam Carolla standing up
for Jimmy Kimmel saying you know what, or or Joe
Rogan standing up for Jimmy Kimmel saying comics are always
the ones who take it in the face first. Well,
(12:06):
I'd say talk radio people are a little bit ahead
of the of the comics. All Right, free speech is
free speech. You don't have to like it. But when
we overreact with it in censorship and cancelation, we're making
a big mistake. It's good for one is good. You're
always talking about Goose and Gander. We've been there. We
shouldn't forget the lessons that we learned. Yeah, but keep
(12:27):
an eye on the mouse. You were suspicious from the
very beginning with this. Yeah, you know, and I think
they've You could tell that the mouse wasn't exactly sad,
that Kimmel was in a jam. Yeah, that maybe there
weren't going to be some paychecks going on for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, but look at what the look at the game,
whether they created it or rode the wave of it.
Look at how this shakes out for them. First of all,
they've got sixty six affiliates that aren't airing the show.
That's not good. Late night revenue is in half, his
audience is down eighty percent. In demo, they're only split
up depends on how you look at. If you look
at total gross revenue at seventy million for Jimmy kimmellive,
(13:05):
but if you look at his total gross income with bonuses,
he's at forty two million, not fifteen million. It just
doesn't make sense that the host alone takes up half
of all the revenue. That's just not a workable business model.
And that's before the ban, before the what they paid
the stars to come on, all the office workers, everything
that goes along with putting on a show. As Rory
(13:27):
would say, these types of shows are very expensive to
produce every night, and they don't have a revenue pie
to split, and they don't have an audience to deliver
that revenue. It's a failed business model, not a First
Amendment issue. But they turned around and played this game
to where they used it to make him the victim,
not Charlie Kirk. Make it about free speech, not about
(13:49):
violence with transgendered community or the left, because he got
a completely wrong and claim to was maga. And now
they turn around and they get everybody that subscribes to
what they want to watch when they want to watch
it the way they want to watch it on Disney
Plus and Hulu to pay for it. So I'm wondering
if it works well. They renew Jimmy Kimmel because they
(14:12):
got the jacked up subscription revenue from Hulu and Disney
Plus to pay for it where they didn't before. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I smell something and it's goofy.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
This is your morning show with Michael Del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I don't know. With everything going on in the world,
how did it come down to a who stopped the escalator,
who turned off the teleprompter? It's a mass conspiracy. The
man accused of trying to assassinate the president was found guilty.
He now faces life in prison, and Google is offering
YouTube accounts that were permanently banned for political speech the
(14:49):
ability to be reinstated as the momentum has gone from
Sunday Revival and Charlie Kirk being the victim to now
Jimmy Kimmel was the victim and freedom of speech is
the big issue and threat. Boy, they've turned it all around.
So DAVID'SANADI our senior contributor, and he also more importantly
is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable and hosted
(15:10):
the Public Square on two hundred stations. Where do we
go from here? Because the emotional roller coaster in seventy
two hours is quite remarkable, and.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Michael I was on a conference call yesterday with I
think it was one hundred different religious leaders and pastors,
and they were asking the same question, and it seemed
to me that the answer is, you go back to
the first things. Before the interruption of what happened with
Turning Point in the death of Charlie Kirk, we were
moving a very large ship toward the direction of celebrating
(15:42):
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of
Independence by retelling the story of the declaration. When the
storms pass by, those things that are solid or on
the rock remain. We go back to the self evident
truths of the declaration. We go back to the first
principles of the Constitution, one of which, by the way,
is freedom of speech. But we go back to the
(16:03):
institutions that remain. We go back to our families, We
go back to our productivity, to our calling, to our purpose.
You go back to first things. The problem is that
we stray from first things and we get into big trouble.
That's number one. Number two, we have to be people
who are bigger than reaction. We have to resist the
temptation to react, because it's the reaction pattern that gets
(16:27):
us into that eighteen fifty model of triggers that take
you to civil war.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's the bottom line. Are we going to heal and
unite or we're going to continue on a trajectory of division,
fighting and civil war. We've taken a couple turns in
the last seventy two hours, but you're right. The difference
between reacting and responding is everything. The prepared person, the
focused person, the one sitting on the rock response. Good word, David.
We'll talk again soon tomorrow. I think this is Shan
(16:55):
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Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, Michael, this is Michael Fane, Ohio. Yes, my heart
is broken at the Reds loss last night, fell behind
the Mets. I'm I'm a cowboys. Your morning show's my
morning show, Michael Cher.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
First of all, the Guardians have been coming on like
our rocket ship, and they've caught the Tigers. That is
worth morning, Michael. You need to not give up on
the Reds yet. And I'm going to make you have
three Skyline chili cheese dogs today a tower at Graters
and rethink this. I still like the Reds to type
(18:07):
that wild Cincinnetti. Now, nothing beats three dogs with a
cheese bot high. President Trump is criticizing ABC for putting
Jimmy cammeill back on the air. That's playing right into
their narrative. Meanwhile, the man accused of trying to assassinate
President Trump and Florida, who represented himself, was found guilty.
(18:29):
He faces life in prison. And I don't know if
you've heard this. I played it earlier. I thought I
was hearing things. This is Fox dramatically covering escalator and
teleprompter gate. Listen, the escalators weren't even working. Trump and
Malaney were riding it up and it just stopped man.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The first lady lost her.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Balance a bit, but steadied herself thankfully, and then march
to the top. She could have been hurt. She could
have been hurt. John Decker Light House correspondent is joining
us to recap the president's speech. All right. I don't
know if that whle And again, on a serious note,
I don't know that that big bust on whatever was
up to try to take out communications and sell service
(19:14):
in New York was related to taking out the escalator
and the teleprompter. But the fact of the matter is,
I wonder what the teleprompter would have said versus what
Donald Trump did say, because he had strong words for
all the United Nations.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, you know, the teleprompter was functioning again about fifteen
minutes into the president's address. The address itself fifty six
minutes long, so the president reading from his prepared text
for about fifteen minutes, and then when the teleprompter was
functioning again, that's when we saw Donald Trump be Donald
Trump when he went off script sometimes. But you're right,
I think that the remarks that were prepared were remarks
(19:52):
that really prepared for a very tough rhetoric coming from
President Trump. Aimed at countries around the world, on those whom,
in fact, many of whom are America's allies.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He doesn't like the way they're controlling their borders and
losing their culture, something he's addressed here at home. He
did make a shift, a shift that I think the
old establishment Republic a very uniting statement for his party,
which is okay, I gave Putin off ramps, he didn't
take them. Now more than ever, he must be defeated
(20:26):
and Ukraine should take back the land that has been taken.
That changes the goal line.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
It changes everything you know, and you know those are words,
but the President really wanted to amplify those words. He
put that message out on social media. That was after
his meeting with President Zelensky. He had his aids reiterate
that message. So the President now has a very different
view of the war in Ukraine. The President expressing his
(20:52):
strong support for President Zelenski for Ukraine. Quite a shift
from back in February when they had that big blow
up in the Oval Office at the White House. Now
the President really believes that President Zelenski can lead his country,
can lead his country well, and can lead his country.
Most importantly, Michael as you just alluded to to victory.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All right, now, I'm gonna get into the weeds a
little bit, and I realized that it's conjecture. But you know,
we had talked about probably the biggest elephant in the room,
beyond tariffs, beyond the Russian Ukrainian War, and beyond the
Middle East in general, is this rise of a two
state solution from many countries in Europe that are friends
with America. This is something I don't think the president
(21:36):
is interested in. Could it be that getting them to
focus on their border and culture problems at home before
they try to solve the crisis within the borders of
Israel was a subtle message or do you think he
addressed them both separately.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I think he addressed them both separately. But for some
countries that I believe is the reason why they're focusing
on this issue. French President Metron perfect example of that.
He's led the way in trying to have countries around
the world essentially recognize the Palestinian state. He's got troubles
within France in terms of a population that is not
(22:13):
happy with him, an Arab population quite frankly, that is
not happy with him, And I think that this outreach
is a way to improve his standing with that particular
population specifically.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm guessing too, the President thinks that there is a real,
not clear and present, but a real, not so distant
future danger. A Islamis stuprise in both France and Britain,
and your open borders have put you in this position.
And perhaps the enemy always has to say they're starting
(22:45):
to rally now and control and we're seeing arrests on
the streets that are more of Islamic law than traditional
British law. So I think the President had some real
genuine concerns. How is it received and what do you
suspect the response will be?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, you know, look, it was received in a different
way than when the president would speak at the UN
in his first term. There is respect for the president.
There is respect for his message. They may not like
the message, but they're clearly is respect for the president's message.
I don't think it changes their policies. One thing you
didn't mention is the president's harsh rhetoric related to climate
change and urging countries around the world to adopt the
(23:23):
US position on climate change.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's not going to change.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
You know, you have the Paris Climate Change Accord, and
the US pulled withdrew itself from that, but so many
other countries around the world are.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A part of that treaty.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So look, I think the President said what is on
the president's mind, and that's what the president always does.
He also, by the way, Michael had some harsh words
for the UN, the United Nations, saying it really is
not an institution that has accomplished much, certainly over the
course of the past few decades.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, you may have hit the nail right on
the head in terms of you know, this isn't the
president that used to host a reality show who somehow
freakishly won an election and may be gone as quick
as he came. This is a respected world leader this time.
That does make a different. You're right to point that out,
and people, you can hear more of what is happening
(24:13):
at the UN and in politics inside the Beltway. The
White House Briefing Room with John Decker. His daily podcast
will be out at nine Eastern and hopefully we'll talk
again tomorrow, John, God blessed. I look forward to it.
Thanks again, Michael. Forty two minutes after the hour. As
I always say, always revealing often entertaining and mostly Jimmy
Kimmel and Kamala Harris. It's your Sounds of the day.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
He's got to stopped.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he
said either.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's got to be a big misunderstanding. I'm going in.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm going in.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It is all right, like my gage, Jeffrey. Do we
have the clip yesterday where I predicted what the first
words out of Jimmy Kimmel's mouth would be. You know me,
I'm not one to toot my own horn. No, not
at all. But you you for that, And of course
I just closed it. But if you give me about
thirty seconds, I'll have it. Thirty seconds, all right, the
(25:07):
big bait and switches this. If freedom of speech is
an issue, the topic should be Charlie Kirk, who was
speaking freely, debating freely on campuses. I'll leave it up
to you whether he was killed because of what he
was saying or the fact that kids were listening and
(25:30):
thinking differently and voting differently. But if there's a freedom
of speech issue in America today, Charlie Kirk is the topic.
His life was taken for it. Jimmy Kimmel was temporarily
taken off the air for an inaccurate statement and potentially
an insensitivity. He comes back last night, but not everywhere,
(25:50):
not on in sixty six markets as Next Star and
Sinclair did not air him on their ABC affiliates, and
that included New York, Los Angeles, Iago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Houston.
That's markets one, two, three, four, five, six. But the
question was would he apologize? Not really? Would he make
(26:12):
this a victory for freedom of speech? Yeah? He did.
And then yesterday I said this, listen, but do you
think he's going to show remorse? Will he apologize for
being wrong? Will he apologize for being insensitive? Will he
double down and claim victory? What do you think the
odds are? He completely avoids and just starts the show.
(26:34):
Maybe a simple line like where was I?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
As I was saying before I was interrupted, he the
great note, Now you did have some funny lines here
find Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We were preemptying your regularly scheduled encore episode of Celebrity
Family Feud to bring you this special report. I'm happy
to be here tonight with you.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, this was a section worthy of hearing in
his opening monologue, a opening monologue that was seventeen minutes long.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I've been hearing a lot about what I need to
say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't
think what I have to say is going to make
much of a difference.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I
do want to make something clear because it's important to
me as a human, and that is you understand that
it was never my intention to make light of.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
The murder of a young man. I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think there's only bring money about it.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I posted a message on the Instagram on the day
who was killed, sending love to his family and asking
him for compassion, and I meant it.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I still do.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group
for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply
disturbed individual.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That was really the opposite of the point I was
trying to make. But I understand that to some that
felt either ill time well on the first one, I
actually agree. I don't think he was trying to make
light of Charlie Kirk's death. I think he was just
laser focused on his Trump derangement, and that led him
(28:13):
the second party's wrong. He was clearly saying he was
loving watching. I mean, first of all, the whole topic
should have been off limits. That's just common sense. We
didn't do Friday with forty seven two weeks in a
row for common sensical reasons. It just wasn't a window
of satire, a time for jokes. He should have known that,
(28:37):
and he should have avoided it. That's a pretty easy
error to have avoided, and he didn't. I don't believe
he was being insensitive to the killing of Charlie Kirk.
I do think he was trying to try the shooter
to Maga, and he should have apologized for being inaccurate
and wrong, and of course he didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And I wonder, how did that guy turn into this guy?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Would you like to see replace Kimmel on Late Night?
A lot of people, anybody could replace the guy had
no talent, kim fuck he inspired, He had no talent.
He's what job, but he had no talented.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
More importantly than talent, he had to because a lot
of people have no talent, they get ratings, but he
had no ratings.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, I do tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But that's his big line, that's his big load, and
by the way, I would think he would have except
for it doesn't matter how big of a bump he
gets number one. He wasn't on a New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia,
San Francisco, and Houston in sixty six markets, it's going
to be hard to see a bump, but it's just
(29:59):
not going to last. This never was a freedom of
speech issue. This was an inaccurate and inappropriate topic after
a man was killed, and he was rightly pulled off
the air. But this is a failed business model for
(30:22):
everyone on late night. Now. We track the numbers in
our Journey of Discovery and you can see he had
two point three million viewers in twenty fifteen. So I
don't get why Trump goes down the road of he's
no talent whactab. I'm sure that's playing well with the
Trump crowd, and it's further feeding the narrative of the
(30:44):
left crowd that just keeps us in a matrix, that
just keeps us divided. But it's finished Donald Trump, and
you can go back and watch documentaries. He's been doing
that since the seventies. This is what he does to
his enemies, but it's a failed business model, and their
Trump derangement has cost them eighty percent of their audience
(31:04):
in demo and the pie of late night revenue has
shrunken over half. It was once four hundred and something
million dollars for them to all split up. Now it's
two hundred and depending on the way you look at it,
they net forty million in revenue, or they grow seventy million,
(31:25):
and his salary is fifteen million, but it ends up
with bonus and incentives being forty two million. So even
if you use the seventy million dollar figure, he's half
of the total revenue. That's a that's a business model
doesn't work. And then the part that isn't even a
part of their derangement and taking entertainment at night and
making it all about politics is people don't watch TV
(31:49):
that way. It's not Rabbit Ears and cable anymore. I
don't know how many channels I got on my cable
other than sports, I'm not watching any of them. Everybody
has moved on to Netflix, Amazon, Prime, Apple, Hulu, Disney
(32:13):
Plus to some degree. Who will all get jacked up
to pay for Jimmy Kimmel if they choose to keep
him here to make a leftist statement to their friends
in Hollywood. Now people that want to watch Hulu and
Disney will have to pay for Jimmy Kimmel, who they
don't want to watch. That's mouse games and the young audience,
they're not interested at all in this. In fact, if
(32:34):
you had anything to say, they'd catch the fifteen second
clip tomorrow. Congratulations Disney, Congratulations left You may have been
successful with a portion of American making Jimmy Kimmel, not
Charlie Kirk the victim. And now you're back with the
program not on in sixty six markets, sharing half the
(32:59):
revenue pie with eighty percent less of your audience. Good
luck with that. Lucky for Jimmy Kimmel. Mamala Kamala's back.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
If his reaction to that, since this part of the
book has come out, if you've had any reflection.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
On that, or.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I guess, I guess I'd ask you to just elaborate
on that a little bit. It's hard to hear.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
By the way, this is a gay host. Rachel Maddow
not willing to get tough with Kamala Harris for basically
saying I want to beat buddhaj Edge, but I couldn't
choose him as a running mate because he was gay.
That's discriminating, or it's a really low view of the
American people that were sexist, were racist, we're anti semitic,
(33:50):
and oh, we're homophobic. You tell me how she did with.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Her as with you running as you know, you're the
first woman elected vice president, you're a black woman, a
South Asian woman elected that high office, very nearly elected president.
To say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively
because he was gay, it's hard to hear.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, No, that's not what I said.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
That's that he couldn't be on the ticket because he
is gay. My point, as I write in the book,
is that I was clear that in one hundred and
seven days, in one of the most hotly contested elections
for president United States, against someone like Donald Trump, who
(34:32):
knows no floor, to be a black woman running for
president United States and as a vice presidential running mate
a gay man, with the stakes being so high, it
made me very sad, But I also realized it would
(34:52):
be a real risk no matter how you know. I've
been an advocate and an ally of the LGBT community
my entire life, So it wasn't about it wasn't about
it right, So it wasn't about any prejudice on my part.
But we had short we had such a short period
(35:13):
of time.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And the stakes were so high.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's a gay host trying to smooth things over with
the LGBT community. For Kamala Harris, who in fact was
making a deplorable statement, there's nothing wrong with her. There's
something wrong with us. America doesn't like women, America doesn't
like women of color, America doesn't like Jewish husbands, and
America don't like gay running mates. She'd have done it,
(35:40):
we couldn't have had the stomach for it. So it
was ultimately a deplorable statement about us. But it's a
problem for her within her base, and that Your Sounds
the Day for this Wednesday, September the twenty fourth, Yeah
about Lord, twenty twenty five. We're all in this together.
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
One, two three, starting your morning off right. A new
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Speaker 1 (00:37):
This is your.
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Morning show with Michael, Bill.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Charny seven minutes after the hour and good morning. Welcome
to Wednesday, September to twenty fourth. You have all old
twenty twenty five. The left has officially responded to the
Charlie Kirk assassination. He's not the victim. They are. How's
that going to play out in the public at large.
We'll talk about that with David Snati coming up in minutes.
(01:01):
The President, he's not thrilled. Jimmy Kimmel's back live on
the air. Google is offering YouTube ac counts that were
permanently banned for political speech, the ability to reinstate, and
President Trump survived a broken escalator, a broken teleprompter to
leave his remarks and his footprint all over the UN yesterday.
(01:23):
And some of that may or may not have had
anything to do with another plot to disrupt New York's
cell phone service. Roy O'Neil's been keeping an eye on
all of it. He's our your morning show National Corresponding.
Good morning, Rory, Yeah, Good morning, Michael. This cell phone
story is crazy. The Secret Service was investigating swatting. You know,
that's where someone calls and says there's a kidnapping or
(01:43):
something's happening at somebody's house, in this case involving members
of the Trump administration. The Secret Service was investigating that
with this new unit they set up just specifically to
look at these kind of tech crimes, and that's what
led them up to New York City, where they've discovered
office space and apartments that were filled with hundreds of
computer servers, one hundred thousand SIM cards.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And we really don't know what it was for.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Was it for some attack related to the UN General
Assembly this week?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Was it something that was going to.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Follow a different kind of attack to disrupt communications or
first responders, or was it a network that was trying
to allow communications to happen sort of off the grid.
A lot of unanswered questions. In fact, we don't even
know who's behind this, But the real concern is that
there are a lot more farms like this all across
the country.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, I mean, my first take, and you covered it
all there expertly. My first take was, remember that morning
we got up and AT and T was down, and
I mean it was like everybody react like was the
end of the world, and that was just AT and T,
And I thought, Okay, is that somebody trying to do
that again. In the case of AT and T. Just
(02:55):
for the record, it was a what they call that
when you do the software update, or yeah, software update,
than what that glitched? But that was my first thought.
And then my second thought was, well, wait a minute.
I mean, even though I thought the escalator in Fox's
coverage and even to some degree Caroline, her response to
the escalator the teleprompter was a bit too much. But
(03:15):
then I started putting it all together, and I started thinking, Hey,
maybe this was to cut off communications. Maybe this was
just part one of a seven part plan to do
something really serious. And then I think you just touched
on the most frightening part about it is that there
might be what you call farms like that throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Well, right, And they found these different operations, again, more
than three hundred servers and with the sim cards capable
of generating what thirty million text messages a minute, one
hundred million phone calls every twelve minutes, So that's so
much traffic that it would shut down any cellular network
and that would really mess up everything. And again, how
(03:55):
many of these are out there in other places? The
one thing that really struck me was this place neat
as a pin. Right, No radio engineer I know has
ever done anything well you've never seen my work, Rory
all right, even in the Chris Berry studios. But yeah,
it's yeah, so remarkably precise in the way it was
(04:16):
all set up, So it doesn't look like it was
real amateurs here.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Somebody knew what they were doing, no, but at least
they found it, and there's got to be a lot
of evidence or the beginning of the journey to figure
out who put.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It there and have one hundred thousand sim cards to
go through. So it is a mountain of Hopefully there's
some AI out there that can help us along, but
we've already seen touches. Perhaps this is Russia, China, drug
cartels in Mexico. They've gotten a little taste of all
that kind of stuff on the phone traffic through these things.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Rory will be back in the third hour. We'll talk
about Jimmy Kimmel's comeback. Thank you, Rory. It's eleven minutes
after the hour. Our senior contributor Davidsonadius joining us, and
we've got the Kimmel comeback. We've got this whole hijacking
of emotion and their rative to where the left is
now the victim and freedom of speech is what's really
at stake when you know that's narrative. Yes, reality is
(05:09):
Late Night as a business model does not exist maybe
for anyone any longer. And I brought up my two
noster del journos yesterday because you can see. You know,
if you truly don't take the narrative bait, David, and
you keep your eyes on the facts, they not only
lead you to the truth, but you can always know
what's coming next because you know what the response to
(05:31):
truth is going to be what's the next shenanigan or lie?
And so I said, what does Jimmy Kimmel do when
he comes back? My guess is his first words will
be where was I before I was interrupted? And I
hit it right on the head. It was the actual
first words out of his mouth. And then I said,
all right, congratulations, Disney you got your way. Jimmy Kimmel's back.
You get to keep losing millions of dollars because the
(05:51):
audience is eighty percent less, the revenue is only twice
what his salary is. What are you going to do next?
Jack up the prices at Disney World. No, they jacked
him up at Disney Plus and Hulu. I mean, you
can't make this stuff up to pay for this. That mouse,
he's always at.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It, all right, goofy, jack up the prices on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Will show them. Obviously, this isn't about freedom of speech,
and none of this is going to be free for subscribers.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well, and a lot of times I think the mouse
is actually trying to eat Walt. Yeah, yeah, it's it's
there's a lot of sadness there, you know, my goad.
I'm thinking about this a lot, and you know, I've
had the privilege of talking about it a lot, and
I'm very grateful for that. I can't you see this coming,
(06:39):
and you try to apply lessons of history, even of
your own life, and you say, sometimes it's better to
wait than to say it out loud. Sometimes it's better
to just let this storm pass through. I agree, and
hold on to the basic things that you believe in
and the things that really matter, because in about ten
(06:59):
days every thing looks different. Well, here we are, and
what you have is people walking back things all over
the place that I'll bet you right and left. Whatever
dividers you want to have on this, they wish they
wouldn't have said, or they would have said them differently
once their emotions and their shock and their passion and
their outrage was ended. Now, so like do you well,
(07:22):
there there's the parental lecture around the breakfast table on
your morning show. I mean, it's important, It really truly
is important because most of what we're now negotiating with
in regards to headlines, it's just overreaction.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
How do you do that? By the way, Like for me,
I don't ever think of anybody as not real, Like
Jimmy Kimmel is a real person, just like just like
Charlie Kirk was a real person. All right, So Jimmy
is caught up in a derangement sentem, and I know
what ginned him up. He lives in Hollywood. This is
(07:57):
what everybody around him tells him, This is what everybody
around him reads, this is what everyone around them sees.
This is why I get he's a victim of the
Matrix is what he's a victim of and Trump derangement.
But he's a real human being. Do I think he
was trying to make light of Charlie Kirk's death. No,
I think he's obsessed. Yeah, I think he was obsessed
and laser focused on being anti Maga and anti Trump,
(08:19):
and it led him to a bad joke. Now, if
he's sorry, I can forgive him, but it doesn't change
the business model, and it doesn't change the fact that
I don't watch and I'm not going to watch. And
the bigger problem, most America doesn't watch TV that way anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, And there a whole layer of stories that are
worth talking about in this Because I was thinking again
this morning about how you and I were persecuted prosecuted,
canceled throughout COVID, and so many of our friends were
as well, because we were willing to listen to physicians
who had fifty years of experience in virology and bacteriology
(08:54):
and immunology and people who were actuarials in regard to pandemics,
and we were willing to consider all the information and
not just listen to Fauci and Burks and how we
were tracked and and we were, we were canceled.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And we were on sorrows' list every time we would
say hi to them.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
No, but there was a point in time where we
had a hard time crossing over state borders because.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And this wasn't and this wasn't political at all. Right.
In fact, our vice president at the time, Mike Pence,
who was charged with overseeing this by the then president
Donald Trump, comes out with this statement, stay home, stay safe.
This is the new normal. And then I started seeing
(09:41):
it commercials like it was all pre orchestrated, And that
statement alone was not well with my soul. What do
you mean a virus? A virus is never a new normal.
You never defeat a virus. You get the virus. And
because of the way you've lived or what your current
condition is. Sometimes that virus can be the end. You
(10:01):
either get it and die, or you get it and
live and you're immune. That's how viruses work. We learned
to live with them, you never defeat them. So what's
this stay home in order to stay safe, and this
would never be a new normal. And so then I
wanted to just check out all of these models. So
I went to the University of Washington's website to see
what was in their model, and they wouldn't show you
(10:23):
because if you don't have real data, and we didn't
outside of Italy, you're putting assumptions in I don't think
fault she was ever honest with what was in the assumptions,
but it was nothing like it looked. And so that
began our journey and we realized it was one big
All I could tell you was they were doing with
COVID what they could never get us, the American people,
to do with global warming, and that was be fearful
(10:46):
and controllable.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, and we went to the Ohio State model and
we worked the math with experts in the fields, and
when we came back out and said, your model doesn't
make any sense, well, Michael, you would have thought that
we literally were in armed warfare with Republican lawmakers because
everyone bought the illusion in those communities and not everyone
(11:10):
in the country. We have friends who lost their jobs,
we have friends that lost their companies, and the models
were wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I had a governor I lost his friendship overreaction.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, at the highest levels, it was wrong, and it
was Republicans and Democrats alike doing it. So I know
what it's like to be censored. I know what it's
like to be persecuted, and you know what, it doesn't
fit good in the human model, and it certainly doesn't
fit good in the American model. Now, the companies that
distribute Jimmy Kimmel have the right to do whatever they
(11:45):
want to do. It's their company, it's their money, it's
their risk. And I don't watch them. They don't want
they don't know me a darned thing. But I don't
have a problem with guys like Adam Carolla standing up
for Jimmy Kimmel saying you know what, or or Joe
Rogan standing up for Jimmy Kimmel saying comics are always
the ones who take it in the face first. Well,
(12:06):
I'd say talk radio people are a little bit ahead
of the of the comics. All Right, free speech is
free speech. You don't have to like it. But when
we overreact with it in censorship and cancelation, we're making
a big mistake. It's good for one is good. You're
always talking about Goose and Gander. We've been there. We
shouldn't forget the lessons that we learned. Yeah, but keep
(12:27):
an eye on the mouse. You were suspicious from the
very beginning with this. Yeah, you know, and I think
they've You could tell that the mouse wasn't exactly sad,
that Kimmel was in a jam. Yeah, that maybe there
weren't going to be some paychecks going on for a while.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, but look at what the look at the game,
whether they created it or rode the wave of it.
Look at how this shakes out for them. First of all,
they've got sixty six affiliates that aren't airing the show.
That's not good. Late night revenue is in half, his
audience is down eighty percent. In demo, they're only split
up depends on how you look at. If you look
at total gross revenue at seventy million for Jimmy kimmellive,
(13:05):
but if you look at his total gross income with bonuses,
he's at forty two million, not fifteen million. It just
doesn't make sense that the host alone takes up half
of all the revenue. That's just not a workable business model.
And that's before the ban, before the what they paid
the stars to come on, all the office workers, everything
that goes along with putting on a show. As Rory
(13:27):
would say, these types of shows are very expensive to
produce every night, and they don't have a revenue pie
to split, and they don't have an audience to deliver
that revenue. It's a failed business model, not a First
Amendment issue. But they turned around and played this game
to where they used it to make him the victim,
not Charlie Kirk. Make it about free speech, not about
(13:49):
violence with transgendered community or the left, because he got
a completely wrong and claim to was maga. And now
they turn around and they get everybody that subscribes to
what they want to watch when they want to watch
it the way they want to watch it on Disney
Plus and Hulu to pay for it. So I'm wondering
if it works well. They renew Jimmy Kimmel because they
(14:12):
got the jacked up subscription revenue from Hulu and Disney
Plus to pay for it where they didn't before. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I smell something and it's goofy.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
This is your morning show with Michael Del Chrono.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I don't know. With everything going on in the world,
how did it come down to a who stopped the escalator,
who turned off the teleprompter? It's a mass conspiracy. The
man accused of trying to assassinate the president was found guilty.
He now faces life in prison, and Google is offering
YouTube accounts that were permanently banned for political speech the
(14:49):
ability to be reinstated as the momentum has gone from
Sunday Revival and Charlie Kirk being the victim to now
Jimmy Kimmel was the victim and freedom of speech is
the big issue and threat. Boy, they've turned it all around.
So DAVID'SANADI our senior contributor, and he also more importantly
is the CEO of the American Policy Roundtable and hosted
(15:10):
the Public Square on two hundred stations. Where do we
go from here? Because the emotional roller coaster in seventy
two hours is quite remarkable, and.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Michael I was on a conference call yesterday with I
think it was one hundred different religious leaders and pastors,
and they were asking the same question, and it seemed
to me that the answer is, you go back to
the first things. Before the interruption of what happened with
Turning Point in the death of Charlie Kirk, we were
moving a very large ship toward the direction of celebrating
(15:42):
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of
Independence by retelling the story of the declaration. When the
storms pass by, those things that are solid or on
the rock remain. We go back to the self evident
truths of the declaration. We go back to the first
principles of the Constitution, one of which, by the way,
is freedom of speech. But we go back to the
(16:03):
institutions that remain. We go back to our families, We
go back to our productivity, to our calling, to our purpose.
You go back to first things. The problem is that
we stray from first things and we get into big trouble.
That's number one. Number two, we have to be people
who are bigger than reaction. We have to resist the
temptation to react, because it's the reaction pattern that gets
(16:27):
us into that eighteen fifty model of triggers that take
you to civil war.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's the bottom line. Are we going to heal and
unite or we're going to continue on a trajectory of division,
fighting and civil war. We've taken a couple turns in
the last seventy two hours, but you're right. The difference
between reacting and responding is everything. The prepared person, the
focused person, the one sitting on the rock response. Good word, David.
We'll talk again soon tomorrow. I think this is Shan
(16:55):
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Speaker 5 (17:29):
Hey, Michael, this is Michael Fane, Ohio. Yes, my heart
is broken at the Reds loss last night, fell behind
the Mets. I'm I'm a cowboys. Your morning show's my
morning show, Michael Cher.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
First of all, the Guardians have been coming on like
our rocket ship, and they've caught the Tigers. That is
worth morning, Michael. You need to not give up on
the Reds yet. And I'm going to make you have
three Skyline chili cheese dogs today a tower at Graters
and rethink this. I still like the Reds to type
(18:07):
that wild Cincinnetti. Now, nothing beats three dogs with a
cheese bot high. President Trump is criticizing ABC for putting
Jimmy cammeill back on the air. That's playing right into
their narrative. Meanwhile, the man accused of trying to assassinate
President Trump and Florida, who represented himself, was found guilty.
(18:29):
He faces life in prison. And I don't know if
you've heard this. I played it earlier. I thought I
was hearing things. This is Fox dramatically covering escalator and
teleprompter gate. Listen, the escalators weren't even working. Trump and
Malaney were riding it up and it just stopped man.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
The first lady lost her.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Balance a bit, but steadied herself thankfully, and then march
to the top. She could have been hurt. She could
have been hurt. John Decker Light House correspondent is joining
us to recap the president's speech. All right. I don't
know if that whle And again, on a serious note,
I don't know that that big bust on whatever was
up to try to take out communications and sell service
(19:14):
in New York was related to taking out the escalator
and the teleprompter. But the fact of the matter is,
I wonder what the teleprompter would have said versus what
Donald Trump did say, because he had strong words for
all the United Nations.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
Well, you know, the teleprompter was functioning again about fifteen
minutes into the president's address. The address itself fifty six
minutes long, so the president reading from his prepared text
for about fifteen minutes, and then when the teleprompter was
functioning again, that's when we saw Donald Trump be Donald
Trump when he went off script sometimes. But you're right,
I think that the remarks that were prepared were remarks
(19:52):
that really prepared for a very tough rhetoric coming from
President Trump. Aimed at countries around the world, on those whom,
in fact, many of whom are America's allies.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He doesn't like the way they're controlling their borders and
losing their culture, something he's addressed here at home. He
did make a shift, a shift that I think the
old establishment Republic a very uniting statement for his party,
which is okay, I gave Putin off ramps, he didn't
take them. Now more than ever, he must be defeated
(20:26):
and Ukraine should take back the land that has been taken.
That changes the goal line.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
It changes everything you know, and you know those are words,
but the President really wanted to amplify those words. He
put that message out on social media. That was after
his meeting with President Zelensky. He had his aids reiterate
that message. So the President now has a very different
view of the war in Ukraine. The President expressing his
(20:52):
strong support for President Zelenski for Ukraine. Quite a shift
from back in February when they had that big blow
up in the Oval Office at the White House. Now
the President really believes that President Zelenski can lead his country,
can lead his country well, and can lead his country.
Most importantly, Michael as you just alluded to to victory.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
All right, now, I'm gonna get into the weeds a
little bit, and I realized that it's conjecture. But you know,
we had talked about probably the biggest elephant in the room,
beyond tariffs, beyond the Russian Ukrainian War, and beyond the
Middle East in general, is this rise of a two
state solution from many countries in Europe that are friends
with America. This is something I don't think the president
(21:36):
is interested in. Could it be that getting them to
focus on their border and culture problems at home before
they try to solve the crisis within the borders of
Israel was a subtle message or do you think he
addressed them both separately.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
I think he addressed them both separately. But for some
countries that I believe is the reason why they're focusing
on this issue. French President Metron perfect example of that.
He's led the way in trying to have countries around
the world essentially recognize the Palestinian state. He's got troubles
within France in terms of a population that is not
(22:13):
happy with him, an Arab population quite frankly, that is
not happy with him, And I think that this outreach
is a way to improve his standing with that particular
population specifically.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm guessing too, the President thinks that there is a real,
not clear and present, but a real, not so distant
future danger. A Islamis stuprise in both France and Britain,
and your open borders have put you in this position.
And perhaps the enemy always has to say they're starting
(22:45):
to rally now and control and we're seeing arrests on
the streets that are more of Islamic law than traditional
British law. So I think the President had some real
genuine concerns. How is it received and what do you
suspect the response will be?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, you know, look, it was received in a different
way than when the president would speak at the UN
in his first term. There is respect for the president.
There is respect for his message. They may not like
the message, but they're clearly is respect for the president's message.
I don't think it changes their policies. One thing you
didn't mention is the president's harsh rhetoric related to climate
change and urging countries around the world to adopt the
(23:23):
US position on climate change.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's not going to change.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
You know, you have the Paris Climate Change Accord, and
the US pulled withdrew itself from that, but so many
other countries around the world are.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
A part of that treaty.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
So look, I think the President said what is on
the president's mind, and that's what the president always does.
He also, by the way, Michael had some harsh words
for the UN, the United Nations, saying it really is
not an institution that has accomplished much, certainly over the
course of the past few decades.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know, you may have hit the nail right on
the head in terms of you know, this isn't the
president that used to host a reality show who somehow
freakishly won an election and may be gone as quick
as he came. This is a respected world leader this time.
That does make a different. You're right to point that out,
and people, you can hear more of what is happening
(24:13):
at the UN and in politics inside the Beltway. The
White House Briefing Room with John Decker. His daily podcast
will be out at nine Eastern and hopefully we'll talk
again tomorrow, John, God blessed. I look forward to it.
Thanks again, Michael. Forty two minutes after the hour. As
I always say, always revealing often entertaining and mostly Jimmy
Kimmel and Kamala Harris. It's your Sounds of the day.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
He's got to stopped.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he
said either.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's got to be a big misunderstanding. I'm going in.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I'm going in.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
It is all right, like my gage, Jeffrey. Do we
have the clip yesterday where I predicted what the first
words out of Jimmy Kimmel's mouth would be. You know me,
I'm not one to toot my own horn. No, not
at all. But you you for that, And of course
I just closed it. But if you give me about
thirty seconds, I'll have it. Thirty seconds, all right, the
(25:07):
big bait and switches this. If freedom of speech is
an issue, the topic should be Charlie Kirk, who was
speaking freely, debating freely on campuses. I'll leave it up
to you whether he was killed because of what he
was saying or the fact that kids were listening and
(25:30):
thinking differently and voting differently. But if there's a freedom
of speech issue in America today, Charlie Kirk is the topic.
His life was taken for it. Jimmy Kimmel was temporarily
taken off the air for an inaccurate statement and potentially
an insensitivity. He comes back last night, but not everywhere,
(25:50):
not on in sixty six markets as Next Star and
Sinclair did not air him on their ABC affiliates, and
that included New York, Los Angeles, Iago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Houston.
That's markets one, two, three, four, five, six. But the
question was would he apologize? Not really? Would he make
(26:12):
this a victory for freedom of speech? Yeah? He did.
And then yesterday I said this, listen, but do you
think he's going to show remorse? Will he apologize for
being wrong? Will he apologize for being insensitive? Will he
double down and claim victory? What do you think the
odds are? He completely avoids and just starts the show.
(26:34):
Maybe a simple line like where was I?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
As I was saying before I was interrupted, he the
great note, Now you did have some funny lines here
find Yes.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
We were preemptying your regularly scheduled encore episode of Celebrity
Family Feud to bring you this special report. I'm happy
to be here tonight with you.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, this was a section worthy of hearing in
his opening monologue, a opening monologue that was seventeen minutes long.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I've been hearing a lot about what I need to
say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't
think what I have to say is going to make
much of a difference.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
If you like me, you like me. If you don't,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I
do want to make something clear because it's important to
me as a human, and that is you understand that
it was never my intention to make light of.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
The murder of a young man. I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I don't think there's only bring money about it.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
I posted a message on the Instagram on the day
who was killed, sending love to his family and asking
him for compassion, and I meant it.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I still do.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group
for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply
disturbed individual.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
That was really the opposite of the point I was
trying to make. But I understand that to some that
felt either ill time well on the first one, I
actually agree. I don't think he was trying to make
light of Charlie Kirk's death. I think he was just
laser focused on his Trump derangement, and that led him
(28:13):
the second party's wrong. He was clearly saying he was
loving watching. I mean, first of all, the whole topic
should have been off limits. That's just common sense. We
didn't do Friday with forty seven two weeks in a
row for common sensical reasons. It just wasn't a window
of satire, a time for jokes. He should have known that,
(28:37):
and he should have avoided it. That's a pretty easy
error to have avoided, and he didn't. I don't believe
he was being insensitive to the killing of Charlie Kirk.
I do think he was trying to try the shooter
to Maga, and he should have apologized for being inaccurate
and wrong, and of course he didn't.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
And I wonder, how did that guy turn into this guy?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Would you like to see replace Kimmel on Late Night?
A lot of people, anybody could replace the guy had
no talent, kim fuck he inspired, He had no talent.
He's what job, but he had no talented.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
More importantly than talent, he had to because a lot
of people have no talent, they get ratings, but he
had no ratings.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Well, I do tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
But that's his big line, that's his big load, and
by the way, I would think he would have except
for it doesn't matter how big of a bump he
gets number one. He wasn't on a New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia,
San Francisco, and Houston in sixty six markets, it's going
to be hard to see a bump, but it's just
(29:59):
not going to last. This never was a freedom of
speech issue. This was an inaccurate and inappropriate topic after
a man was killed, and he was rightly pulled off
the air. But this is a failed business model for
(30:22):
everyone on late night. Now. We track the numbers in
our Journey of Discovery and you can see he had
two point three million viewers in twenty fifteen. So I
don't get why Trump goes down the road of he's
no talent whactab. I'm sure that's playing well with the
Trump crowd, and it's further feeding the narrative of the
(30:44):
left crowd that just keeps us in a matrix, that
just keeps us divided. But it's finished Donald Trump, and
you can go back and watch documentaries. He's been doing
that since the seventies. This is what he does to
his enemies, but it's a failed business model, and their
Trump derangement has cost them eighty percent of their audience
(31:04):
in demo and the pie of late night revenue has
shrunken over half. It was once four hundred and something
million dollars for them to all split up. Now it's
two hundred and depending on the way you look at it,
they net forty million in revenue, or they grow seventy million,
(31:25):
and his salary is fifteen million, but it ends up
with bonus and incentives being forty two million. So even
if you use the seventy million dollar figure, he's half
of the total revenue. That's a that's a business model
doesn't work. And then the part that isn't even a
part of their derangement and taking entertainment at night and
making it all about politics is people don't watch TV
(31:49):
that way. It's not Rabbit Ears and cable anymore. I
don't know how many channels I got on my cable
other than sports, I'm not watching any of them. Everybody
has moved on to Netflix, Amazon, Prime, Apple, Hulu, Disney
(32:13):
Plus to some degree. Who will all get jacked up
to pay for Jimmy Kimmel if they choose to keep
him here to make a leftist statement to their friends
in Hollywood. Now people that want to watch Hulu and
Disney will have to pay for Jimmy Kimmel, who they
don't want to watch. That's mouse games and the young audience,
they're not interested at all in this. In fact, if
(32:34):
you had anything to say, they'd catch the fifteen second
clip tomorrow. Congratulations Disney, Congratulations left You may have been
successful with a portion of American making Jimmy Kimmel, not
Charlie Kirk the victim. And now you're back with the
program not on in sixty six markets, sharing half the
(32:59):
revenue pie with eighty percent less of your audience. Good
luck with that. Lucky for Jimmy Kimmel. Mamala Kamala's back.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
If his reaction to that, since this part of the
book has come out, if you've had any reflection.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
On that, or.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
I guess, I guess I'd ask you to just elaborate
on that a little bit. It's hard to hear.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
By the way, this is a gay host. Rachel Maddow
not willing to get tough with Kamala Harris for basically
saying I want to beat buddhaj Edge, but I couldn't
choose him as a running mate because he was gay.
That's discriminating, or it's a really low view of the
American people that were sexist, were racist, we're anti semitic,
(33:50):
and oh, we're homophobic. You tell me how she did with.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
Her as with you running as you know, you're the
first woman elected vice president, you're a black woman, a
South Asian woman elected that high office, very nearly elected president.
To say that he couldn't be on the ticket effectively
because he was gay, it's hard to hear.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, No, that's not what I said.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
That's that he couldn't be on the ticket because he
is gay. My point, as I write in the book,
is that I was clear that in one hundred and
seven days, in one of the most hotly contested elections
for president United States, against someone like Donald Trump, who
(34:32):
knows no floor, to be a black woman running for
president United States and as a vice presidential running mate
a gay man, with the stakes being so high, it
made me very sad, But I also realized it would
(34:52):
be a real risk no matter how you know. I've
been an advocate and an ally of the LGBT community
my entire life, So it wasn't about it wasn't about
it right, So it wasn't about any prejudice on my part.
But we had short we had such a short period
(35:13):
of time.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And the stakes were so high.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
That's a gay host trying to smooth things over with
the LGBT community. For Kamala Harris, who in fact was
making a deplorable statement, there's nothing wrong with her. There's
something wrong with us. America doesn't like women, America doesn't
like women of color, America doesn't like Jewish husbands, and
America don't like gay running mates. She'd have done it,
(35:40):
we couldn't have had the stomach for it. So it
was ultimately a deplorable statement about us. But it's a
problem for her within her base, and that Your Sounds
the Day for this Wednesday, September the twenty fourth, Yeah
about Lord, twenty twenty five. We're all in this together.
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