September 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Not sure if this 1968 or 1858?? But, we need a calm to all this hatred and violence at home. We’ll ask senior military analyst Steven Bucci if that’s possible and who should lead it??!!
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You were right about the Reds making the playoffs.
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What's the powerball numbers? Oh, twenty six, seven, thirteen, thirty eight,
forty two, Sarah, Hike hike on one. If you're just
waking up. Yes, the Reds made the playoffs. We have
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We got major League Baseball playoffs beginning. Signs are pointing
towards the government shutdown. Oh my, and President Trump will
speak to an unprecedented group of generals and admirals today,
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Steven Bouchie filling in for our Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano.
Uh but why would you have every admiral and general
from around the world summoned to Quantico to tell them
they're doing a good job. Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, it's it's not necessarily that you know, chew out
everybody that I think a lot of folks immediately assume
that's what was going to happen. Uh, it appears it
is going to be somewhat Hey, you're doing a great job.
We appreciate what you're doing. By the way, we just
want you to hear directly from the horse's mouth, this is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The direction we're going.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Uh. It's a little unprecedented to bring in everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, uh, you know, from the one.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Stars on up, the four stars, the real honest to
goodness pacoderms that are out there. They come back to
Washington and Vicinity pretty regularly and do meet as.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
A big group like this. Uh periodically.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I've seen it happen, you know, multiple times when I
was in the Pentagon, where the big folks all sit
down together and talk strategy, talk strategic direction.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We're not sure what this is gonna be, uh, I,
but I think it's more in line with that kind
of stuff. But again, the unprecedented nature is bringing in
all the one stars, because you know, to most folks,
general officers and admirals are all big people.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're gigantic.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But there's a world of difference between what a one
star or a two star focuses on and their positions
and what the some of the three stars and the
four stars focus on. H it's a big deal. So
how they're going to talk to both those sets within
that group? Uh, that's that's gonna be an interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well what about having but what about what about having
all of them speaks to what they might be talking
about that they're not telling us. In other words, what
would the top be that you would need one through fours.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
To talk about the strategic direction of the country, what
the priorities are it? You know, look, Trump is a
verbal kind of communicator. Head set apparently is too. I
think they felt it would be more effective to bring
everybody in level set, the whole group talking about the
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big issues that are out there. I'm interested to see
if they'll take questions. You know, you bring all these
guys in. Hopefully it's not just for you know, an
hour or two of chatting, but it's a strategic conversation
that goes on, which I think would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know. You know, I'm as conservative as they come,
and I support the president when I can, but I
also call balls and strikes straight. So we we had
a problem with heg Seth and a leak in the past,
the President made it very clear, this is why we
go to the situation. We never use any kind of
communication systems. Is this an over emphasis or paranoia on
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leaks that we have to fly in every one through
four star general and admiral to have a major strategic
conversation that we can't afford any leaks on.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I don't think so. I think it would be massive
overkilled to do it this way. You know, we're not
going to go back to carrier pigeons, you know, in
you know, human couriers to send messages. But sometimes it
is worthwhile to look people in the eye and say, okay,
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this this is what we're going to focus on. Guys,
Does anybody have any questions? Anybody got an issue with that?
You know we can address it. Orse, I'm not sure
what that would get you if you had an issue
with it. But it's I don't think it's as nutty
as as you know you might think.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Stephen Butchi is joining us for our military foreign policy briefing.
The President unprecedentedly, along with the Secretary of War, will
address military leadership this morning. He has a news conference
or some kind of a statement to make at eleven am.
We don't know if that has to do with this
twenty point peace plan. We don't know if it has
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to do with Russia Ukraine. We don't know if it
has to do with the potential government shutdown or a
follow up to this meeting. So maybe all of our
inquisitive questions will be answered later this morning. Time will tell,
you know, Timing is everything, Steven. You bring all these
people in, you might have Russia thinking, well, what are
they up to? Are they ready to start World War three?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Or is as the left wood fear, this guy finally
going off the deep end and he's going to turn
the military against the entire country. You know, there needs
to be some real clear communication here because we live
in a time of US versus them, and the internet
is just crazy, wild, wild West nonsense. I mean, people
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will have a field day with this speculating.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, they already are, and it's hopefully after the event
there'll be a pretty clear readout of what occurred, why
it occurred, and everybody will calm down. I don't think
this is an announcement that we're gonna institute martial law
or anything nutty like that. I just I think that
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aspect of people's imagination is a little bit fevered because
I don't think the American military would go along with it. Frankly,
it wouldn't be a legal order without the situation to
warrant it, and clearly we're not at that level right now.
Using the military is particularly the National Guard, to help
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out in certain areas. You know we've done that before.
You know, this is not something Trump invented. You know,
we had the La riots, we had the Chicago riots
or Detroit before that. This happened, But we'll see where
it goes. I don't think that's what's going to happen.
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I think this is going to be more an adult
version of a PEP rally, which you know, a lot
of people can question whether that's worth the time and
effort to do this. But when I say an adult version,
I mean with a serious tone of laying down strategic
direction that is coming directly from the Secretary of War
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and the President together. Is not an absurd way to
do it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All right, let's turn attention I. You know, I love
to study history. It gives me perspective in nature and
the way things have been. It's easy to get hysterical
thinking you're living something that's never lived before. That's not true.
My problem is I can't figure out if we're reliving
nineteen sixty eight or eighteen fifty eight, and one led
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to peace and resolve, the other led to civil war.
And I really think we're kind of on that brink.
What we need is calm to all this hatred and
violence at home. What we need is to respond to
hate with love, with consensus, in unity. And when I
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look to nineteen sixty eight, that speech was delivered by
Robert F. Kennedy on the night of mlk's assassination, there
has been no such speech like that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I get the irony that RFK would go on to
be the next killed two months later, But the Charlie
Kirk shooting has led to other shootings since nineteen fifty eight,
of course, led to civil war. Are we kind? Am
I feeling this right? And if it's going to take
somebody to stand up and lead this moment away from
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hate and away from violence and towards peace and unity,
is it that person? Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah? It's he is the person who re elected to
be the leader of this country. And we're we are
at a point where leadership is necessary. Uh so, I
would agree, I I don't get quite as I mean,
the violence is a problem, that that is something that
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is not unprecedented, but is a lot less common than
people just going in the streets and shouting at each other,
and that's something that needs to be addressed, clearly. I
don't think we're at the brink of a civil war.
I think in the minds of some people, most of
them have never you know, faced war, think well, that's
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what we need. We'll clean things out and that they
can be decided to divide. I think those people are
foolish and are thinking about something that they really have
no way to comprehend because it's never been in the
middle of it. Anybody who's been in a war, the
last thing they want is a civil war, because civil
wars are always the worst kind of wars. And we
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saw that in our own country, we've seen it in
other countries we've been involved with. But we do need
to figure out how to get back to the point
where two people can disagree and not decide that the
other person is not only wrong, but they're stupid, they're evil,
and they need to be eliminated.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How much that's just crazy. Yeah, Well, and that's what
Charlie Cooks took. Charlie Kirk stood for. He knew that
if we couldn't find any common ground whatsoever, if neither
side would give and then you stop talking, all that's
left is violence. Let me ask you, in all of
your studies in years in the military, how does war college?
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I mean, how did they define the Civil War? What
do they agree upon? I mean, yes, it was slave
but moreover it was a morality issue, and it got
to our very intent, and then it got to states' rights,
our intent in terms of are all men endowed by
their creator? Are they do life liberty in a pursuit
of happiness? Are they equal? So slavery was, yes, the battle,
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and there was agriculture in the form of the South's
economy versus industry in the North. There was a lot
of things going on, but ultimately was about failing our
intent of our declaration. As we approach the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary, slavery by way of morality, that's kind
of how we are today. And yet we have the
Internet to boot, which makes it ten times is harder
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to communicate and find common grounds. So I don't think
I'm completely hysterical. We better start turning this corner or
we're going to get to a point where it just
becomes inevitable.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah. I didn't mean to imply you were being.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hysterical, but it is. This is a critical point.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
We can't be the cavalier about it and just assume
ow it'll go away, it'll be fine, because you're right.
The echo chamber of the Internet in particular, and the
way the Internet seems to give people a feeling that
they can do these things and there's no repercussions. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's that the.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Video game kids who think, well, no, in real life,
you just hit reset and then I'll get up again
and we keep playing violence. Real violence isn't like that.
It's horrible, it hurts, and it can be completely final.
So the commer personas out there on both sides need
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to stop looking at well, what's the political you know,
value I can get from really stirring this pot or
really pushing them just one more step and figure out
what's the right thing to do for the United States
of America, which is to come up with at least
two answers, one on each side and then work to
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figure out what is an agreeable compromise between those two.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, but the goals and a scoreboard have to become
the same. It's like when I even want, like Donald
Trump's done a lot of two point oh stuff, and
then every now and then one point oh shows up,
sombrero mustache yesterday over government shutdown. But you know, even
this meeting today, you know you're sending all these messages
into a internet and social media world. Well, there'll be
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some going off that he's going to call the military
to turn against the American people. That could spark somebody
to take a violent action. Eventually, the right's going to
get fed up with this and fire back and boom
there you are. So every day I go on the air,
you know, my number one goal is now not get
ours elected or D's elected, or who has more elected.
It's to avoid civil war. And it's about time some
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of these leaders start realizing that needs to be our
number one focus right now. First, avoid a civil war. Second,
provide healing and unity. I know in sixty eight Nixon
started talking to the sensible center. That was a big
part of it, the cultural revolution and the Jesus movement,
hippies turned to Christ. It created a real revival, not
a self proclaimed one at a memorial service. And then
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the people watching on TV got fed up with seeing
the pain and the violence. And now you're watching assassinations
over and over again on the internet. You would hope
they'd be tired of that as well. I think the
third is possible. I don't see the first two because
no one's talking to the sensible center, certainly not Trump.
Nobody's giving RFK speeches. I don't see any signs of
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real revival. The question is does America realize the dangerous
game it's playing, And I don't think it does yet. Well,
have to keep an eye on it. I always love
when you fill in for Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. Thank
you for your time. I appreciate it so much. Steven Bouchie,
Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. I'm going to go
over the twenty points by the way of the President's
peace Plan, and I do have a problem with several
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journal honored to serve you. Jeffrey's got the Sound Red
keeping an eye on the content, and the President proposing
a twenty point plan for peace, not just in the
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Middle East. He says, this is the most biggest announcement
in civilization history, and this is going to bring eternal peace?
What's it based on? Number One, Gaza will be deradicalized,
terror free zone, as if you could just say it
and then it's so be nice, but the enemy has
a say. Two. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit
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of the people of Gaza. Who are the people of Gaza?
And it depends on who's roaming around raining and racking
up fear. It's ben Hamas, it's been plo. Who will
it be that would keep this redevelopment for the people.
If both sides agree to this proposal, the war ends
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immediately within seventy two hours of Israel's publicly accepting this agreement.
All hostages alive and deceased will be returned. Once all
the hostages are released, then Israel release two hundred and
fifty life sentence prisoners plus seventeen hundred gossens wo have
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been obtained. Starts really verse six. Once all the hostages
are returned. Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence now
or do the coexist bumper sticker the most naive bumper
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sticker and thought in the history of mankind, because they
do all these symbols But the problem is the Islamist
signal doesn't see the other's rights to exist, but political correctness,
as we can't say that political correctness is. I can't
discuss the three contradictory lives of Mohammad. Early on very peaceful,
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very tolerant, then later starts with his uncle, becomes a thief,
the caravans. Then they become political Islamists. They go places,
they populate, they infiltrate, they agitate, and then eventually they
become bloodthirsty warriors. So what is a Muslim to do?
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I know what a Christian is to do, love the
Lord thy God with all thy heart's soul and mind,
and to let my neighbor is myself, to be first,
be last, to live die. But to be a good Muslim?
Which is it peaceful tolerant? Well, there are peaceful tolerant Muslims.
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Is it be more political like the Muslim brotherhood? And
there are? And when they get to a tipping point,
they wage war. Show them any sign of weakness or submission,
they'll really wage war. And then there's Jihadis who attack
immediately and you don't know which they are until it's
too late and they've acted. But we know who mo
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Hamas is. Hamas is an arm of Iran. They're Shiah Muslims,
and they are jihadists. They're not evil, They're worshiping their
God in the highest level of service. So this notion that, oh,
suddenly they'll just say, oh, okay, now I'm peaceful and
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I'm coexisting. Here take my weapons. I use I was
just searching for an analogy of how naive this is. Okay,
your search and decided to leave a bunch of cancer
cells that seem to respond somewhat to the chemo. So
we're gonna just leave them like they're going to change
their spots and suddenly not metastasize. Sorry, number six is
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so naive. I can't even take this twenty point plan seriously.
You're going to leave AMAS. I mean, if I was AMAS,
I would accept this deal, be leave all these Hamas members,
have them turn their weapons, say they denounce, and now
they're tolerant, and we'll wait for another time and will
wage war again when things are more favorable for us. Seven.
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Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will then immediately
be sent to the Gaza. And where does all that
aid always end up in the hands of the terrorists. Eight.
Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza will proceed.
It will proceed without interference from two parties from the
United Nations and agencies in the Red Crescent. Gaza will
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be governed under a temporary transitional governance of technocratic a
political Palestinian committee. Nothing there that could be corrupted, of course.
A trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza
will be created by a convening panel of experts who
have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracles of cities.
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Now we're getting to the riviera of the Middle East.
A special economic zone will be established, with preferred tariff
and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries more
rivier of the Middle East. No one will be forced
to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will
be free to do so and free to return. Thirteen
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Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role
in the governance of the Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in
any form like no history in this region has ever happened.
Fourteen A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to
ensure that Hamas and factions comply with the op obligations.
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I'm only fourteen in and Kashmir is looking smarter. Fifteen.
The United States will work with the Arab and international
parties to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force an ISSF
to immediately be deployed to Gaza. The ISF will train
provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza. So
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won't be Russian America policing this area. It'll be Jordan
in Egypt. And whoever makes up this ISF sixteen Israel
will not occupy our annex Gaza. It's obeyed in the past,
it doesn't last for long, and the event Hamastelaser rejects
this proposal, the above, including a scale upaid operation, will
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proceed in the terror free areas handed over from IDF
to ISSF. Eighteen. Now are really going to get wishful thinking.
An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on values
of talent. Can you imagine, because I know I'm gonna
get some Haiti mail? Can you imagine if Joe Biden
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had issued such language, or Barack Obama had issued such language,
but the right would be ripping apart. In this proposal,
an interfaith dialogue process will be established based on values
of tolerance and peaceful coexistence. Now you're back to the
coexistent bumper sticker. Islam does not see Israel's right to exist.
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Islam does not see America's right to exist. Islam's goal
is to rule the world, and you will do it
by bowing and paying attacks. You will do it by dying,
or you will do it by submitting. They win or
you win. They don't play for peaceful tolerance, and even
if they do, it's only for a window of time
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until they can rebuild, restrengthen, and then attack again. Nineteen
While God's redevelopment advances and when PA reform programs are
faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place
for a credible pathway to give Palestine the self determinated
statehood within the borders of Israel, as it believes Israel
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doesn't have a right to exist. I don't know why
we didn't get this big idea after nine eleven. We
should have just given New York to the Saudi terrorists
and been lauden. That would have been a solution. Then
they'd have been satisfied, then they'd become tolerant. Then we
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would have had peace twenty and I don't know why
they felt the need to go twenty deep, other than
knowing twenty it can't happen. Therefore, Israel can go wipe
them out and finish the job without any kind of
political disagreement, because you can always point and say, hey, look,
we gain a peace plan. They didn't take it. Don't
blame Israel, don't blame in the United States. The United
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States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians
to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous coexistence.
This thing is so riddled with ignorance of Islam, so
ignorant of the Surah and the Hadiths and the examples
of Mohammad, and blind to history. I'm sorry. I know
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I'm just one talk show host, but no I labeled
this naive. Now if a moss plays along, and temporarily
they might, they don't have a lot of moves right now.
It's only to attack again in the future. But I
guess Trump gets his Nobel Peace Prize. I want to
give out one shining star today and again it's John Fetterman,
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a CNN story and false Democrats over shutdown strategy. And
warns it would be an ideal outcome for Project twenty
twenty five. Remember when the Democrats made Project twenty twenty
five the boogem Now they're back to making Trump himself
the boogeyman. But here we go again with Fetterman being
the only common sense one. What is he saying? It's
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about the American people, not the senator's ego or political
soap operas. What nonsense is he talking about? He warned
of grave consequences for the country of the Democrat lawmakers
withhold their votes to avert a shutdown. You're running the
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risk of plunging our nation into chaos, explaining millions and
millions of lives will be upended. Well, I disagree with
that part. That's all hype. We broke down to you
the Axios story, which so clearly points in the last
two government shutdowns, GDP rose, employment rose, spending rose, and
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for the temporary employee that were sent home, they all
got back pay. The shutdown isn't the fear. The shutdown
isn't the cancer and scare. It's when it's open, overspending, overgrowing,
and burying you in debt that will destroy you in
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the economy, we're only getting it completely relong, completely wrong.
But Fetterman responded to me, it's not about politics of
who gets blamed for it. It's the damage that will
occur to the millions of Americans, not a soap opera.
You know, our core responsibility as senators are to keep
the government open. Well, that's the point I was making yesterday.
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The blame game is a joke. It says social media dysfunction.
Congress's job is to make laws and fund the government.
They're just proving they're a failure. But I'm more afraid
of when they do keep the governm opened than when
it closed. Then he went on to say, look, you're
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just going to give the open door for them to
make a lot of these cuts permanent be an ideal
outcome for Project twenty twenty five. It's like, oh my god,
we could get that lucky and shutting down the government.
I hope. Ultimately, what he's implying is we got to
stop playing partisan political games. We got to start collectively
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doing our job and governing on behalf of the American people. Unfortunately,
Fetterman's one voice. Unfortunately he's not a minority leader of
either the House or the Senate. But I'll conclude by saying,
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I don't fear government shutdown. I fear when the government's
opening open and piling up thirty seven trillion dollars of debt.
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Speaker 2 (32:26):
Fifty four minutes after the hours, signs are pointing towards
a government shut down, and if there is, will some
federal workers be permanently fired depending on what the President
does with the temporary government shutdown. We just went over
the Axios story and the previous two government shutdowns, the
GDP rows jobs increased, spending increased, and everybody who was
(32:50):
temporarily out of work turned out to get vacations, they
get back pay. Is this much to do about nothing?
Our national correspondent Roy O'Neil is here with one of
our tops or is the other top story, Rory, is
that apparently they're going to just televise this pemp rally
that we paid to have all these generals and admirals
return home for go figure. I can't cover this stuff
(33:11):
anymore with a straight face. I just can't.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, I've been watching Secretary hegseeth address the generals and admirals,
and a lot of it has been about the personal
grooming and pt regime regimen that even the top generals
are going to have to make sure they're fit. No
more fat generals or fat admirals is essentially the new policy.
No more beards either. But yeah, that's still going down,
(33:36):
and that could have been done in a memo. We
had to fly on a memo so far from what
I'm hearing, but again, I've only got one ear plugged in,
so that's not my full assessment as to what's going on.
President Trump is going to speak to them shortly as well,
so that's part of that. And yeah, the shutdown seems
to be on track. You know, Let's see how the
polling goes and see who gets blamed for this, essentially
(33:58):
to see who blinks.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, I think in this case, I have to agree
with the speaker in terms of what the left is
trying to pull off. In other words, you have to
believe that, oh my gosh, we're gonna have we can't
have a government. Government shutdowns like cancer. It's like death,
it's like you know, and in order to avoid it,
you know, give us back our money for PBS and NPR,
you know, give us back some money for benefits for illegals.
(34:24):
And I do think that's part of the rub I
don't see where a consensus can be found. All I
can see is one side's gonna blink. I don't know who,
and I don't know if it'll be before or after
the shutdown. I mean, that's kind of my assessment. Yeah,
I think I think we're in for at least a
few days.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And let's see if the Democrats try to come back
and fight another day on those tax subsidies for the
Obamacare plans. That's the expensive part of all this. But look,
a lot of Republican senators like that. They represent states
that a lot of residents rely on those subsidies. So
I think there is some middle ground when it comes
to subsidizing the Obamacare plans. But you know, and not
(35:01):
even every Republican is on board. Rand Paul doing what
Rand Paul does, Lisa Murkowski the same.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And as far as the attacker in Grand Blank, Michigan,
I don't think we got a maga. I just think
we have somebody that had a bad relationship living in
Utah with a Mormon and remained obsessed and probably psychotic.
But there's maybe more to learn. Anything I'm missing. That
seems to be the only new information.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It seems to be the only new twist there that
this was more directed and anti Mormon sentiment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So we'll have to see what strange is it sounds
he sounds like a great guy and completely normal, and
then like even the guy that was canvassing, you know,
all of a sudden he just breaks in right this
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You were right about the Reds making the playoffs.
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What's the powerball numbers? Oh, twenty six, seven, thirteen, thirty eight,
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We got major League Baseball playoffs beginning. Signs are pointing
towards the government shutdown. Oh my, and President Trump will
speak to an unprecedented group of generals and admirals today,
(01:56):
Steven Bouchie filling in for our Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano.
Uh but why would you have every admiral and general
from around the world summoned to Quantico to tell them
they're doing a good job. Uh?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, it's it's not necessarily that you know, chew out
everybody that I think a lot of folks immediately assume
that's what was going to happen. Uh, it appears it
is going to be somewhat Hey, you're doing a great job.
We appreciate what you're doing. By the way, we just
want you to hear directly from the horse's mouth, this is.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The direction we're going.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Uh. It's a little unprecedented to bring in everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, uh, you know, from the one.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Stars on up, the four stars, the real honest to
goodness pacoderms that are out there. They come back to
Washington and Vicinity pretty regularly and do meet as.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
A big group like this. Uh periodically.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I've seen it happen, you know, multiple times when I
was in the Pentagon, where the big folks all sit
down together and talk strategy, talk strategic direction.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We're not sure what this is gonna be, uh, I,
but I think it's more in line with that kind
of stuff. But again, the unprecedented nature is bringing in
all the one stars, because you know, to most folks,
general officers and admirals are all big people.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
They're gigantic.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But there's a world of difference between what a one
star or a two star focuses on and their positions
and what the some of the three stars and the
four stars focus on. H it's a big deal. So
how they're going to talk to both those sets within
that group? Uh, that's that's gonna be an interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well what about having but what about what about having
all of them speaks to what they might be talking
about that they're not telling us. In other words, what
would the top be that you would need one through fours.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
To talk about the strategic direction of the country, what
the priorities are it? You know, look, Trump is a
verbal kind of communicator. Head set apparently is too. I
think they felt it would be more effective to bring
everybody in level set, the whole group talking about the
(04:25):
big issues that are out there. I'm interested to see
if they'll take questions. You know, you bring all these
guys in. Hopefully it's not just for you know, an
hour or two of chatting, but it's a strategic conversation
that goes on, which I think would be helpful.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know. You know, I'm as conservative as they come,
and I support the president when I can, but I
also call balls and strikes straight. So we we had
a problem with heg Seth and a leak in the past,
the President made it very clear, this is why we
go to the situation. We never use any kind of
communication systems. Is this an over emphasis or paranoia on
(05:08):
leaks that we have to fly in every one through
four star general and admiral to have a major strategic
conversation that we can't afford any leaks on.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I don't think so. I think it would be massive
overkilled to do it this way. You know, we're not
going to go back to carrier pigeons, you know, in
you know, human couriers to send messages. But sometimes it
is worthwhile to look people in the eye and say, okay,
(05:39):
this this is what we're going to focus on. Guys,
Does anybody have any questions? Anybody got an issue with that?
You know we can address it. Orse, I'm not sure
what that would get you if you had an issue
with it. But it's I don't think it's as nutty
as as you know you might think.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Stephen Butchi is joining us for our military foreign policy briefing.
The President unprecedentedly, along with the Secretary of War, will
address military leadership this morning. He has a news conference
or some kind of a statement to make at eleven am.
We don't know if that has to do with this
twenty point peace plan. We don't know if it has
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to do with Russia Ukraine. We don't know if it
has to do with the potential government shutdown or a
follow up to this meeting. So maybe all of our
inquisitive questions will be answered later this morning. Time will tell,
you know, Timing is everything, Steven. You bring all these
people in, you might have Russia thinking, well, what are
they up to? Are they ready to start World War three?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Or is as the left wood fear, this guy finally
going off the deep end and he's going to turn
the military against the entire country. You know, there needs
to be some real clear communication here because we live
in a time of US versus them, and the internet
is just crazy, wild, wild West nonsense. I mean, people
(07:01):
will have a field day with this speculating.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, they already are, and it's hopefully after the event
there'll be a pretty clear readout of what occurred, why
it occurred, and everybody will calm down. I don't think
this is an announcement that we're gonna institute martial law
or anything nutty like that. I just I think that
(07:26):
aspect of people's imagination is a little bit fevered because
I don't think the American military would go along with it. Frankly,
it wouldn't be a legal order without the situation to
warrant it, and clearly we're not at that level right now.
Using the military is particularly the National Guard, to help
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out in certain areas. You know we've done that before.
You know, this is not something Trump invented. You know,
we had the La riots, we had the Chicago riots
or Detroit before that. This happened, But we'll see where
it goes. I don't think that's what's going to happen.
(08:10):
I think this is going to be more an adult
version of a PEP rally, which you know, a lot
of people can question whether that's worth the time and
effort to do this. But when I say an adult version,
I mean with a serious tone of laying down strategic
direction that is coming directly from the Secretary of War
(08:34):
and the President together. Is not an absurd way to
do it.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All right, let's turn attention I. You know, I love
to study history. It gives me perspective in nature and
the way things have been. It's easy to get hysterical
thinking you're living something that's never lived before. That's not true.
My problem is I can't figure out if we're reliving
nineteen sixty eight or eighteen fifty eight, and one led
(09:02):
to peace and resolve, the other led to civil war.
And I really think we're kind of on that brink.
What we need is calm to all this hatred and
violence at home. What we need is to respond to
hate with love, with consensus, in unity. And when I
(09:24):
look to nineteen sixty eight, that speech was delivered by
Robert F. Kennedy on the night of mlk's assassination, there
has been no such speech like that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I get the irony that RFK would go on to
be the next killed two months later, But the Charlie
Kirk shooting has led to other shootings since nineteen fifty eight,
of course, led to civil war. Are we kind? Am
I feeling this right? And if it's going to take
somebody to stand up and lead this moment away from
(09:57):
hate and away from violence and towards peace and unity,
is it that person? Donald Trump?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah? It's he is the person who re elected to
be the leader of this country. And we're we are
at a point where leadership is necessary. Uh so, I
would agree, I I don't get quite as I mean,
the violence is a problem, that that is something that
(10:27):
is not unprecedented, but is a lot less common than
people just going in the streets and shouting at each other,
and that's something that needs to be addressed, clearly. I
don't think we're at the brink of a civil war.
I think in the minds of some people, most of
them have never you know, faced war, think well, that's
(10:49):
what we need. We'll clean things out and that they
can be decided to divide. I think those people are
foolish and are thinking about something that they really have
no way to comprehend because it's never been in the
middle of it. Anybody who's been in a war, the
last thing they want is a civil war, because civil
wars are always the worst kind of wars. And we
(11:12):
saw that in our own country, we've seen it in
other countries we've been involved with. But we do need
to figure out how to get back to the point
where two people can disagree and not decide that the
other person is not only wrong, but they're stupid, they're evil,
and they need to be eliminated.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How much that's just crazy. Yeah, Well, and that's what
Charlie Cooks took. Charlie Kirk stood for. He knew that
if we couldn't find any common ground whatsoever, if neither
side would give and then you stop talking, all that's
left is violence. Let me ask you, in all of
your studies in years in the military, how does war college?
(11:53):
I mean, how did they define the Civil War? What
do they agree upon? I mean, yes, it was slave
but moreover it was a morality issue, and it got
to our very intent, and then it got to states' rights,
our intent in terms of are all men endowed by
their creator? Are they do life liberty in a pursuit
of happiness? Are they equal? So slavery was, yes, the battle,
(12:18):
and there was agriculture in the form of the South's
economy versus industry in the North. There was a lot
of things going on, but ultimately was about failing our
intent of our declaration. As we approach the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary, slavery by way of morality, that's kind
of how we are today. And yet we have the
Internet to boot, which makes it ten times is harder
(12:40):
to communicate and find common grounds. So I don't think
I'm completely hysterical. We better start turning this corner or
we're going to get to a point where it just
becomes inevitable.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah. I didn't mean to imply you were being.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Hysterical, but it is. This is a critical point.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
We can't be the cavalier about it and just assume
ow it'll go away, it'll be fine, because you're right.
The echo chamber of the Internet in particular, and the
way the Internet seems to give people a feeling that
they can do these things and there's no repercussions. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's that the.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Video game kids who think, well, no, in real life,
you just hit reset and then I'll get up again
and we keep playing violence. Real violence isn't like that.
It's horrible, it hurts, and it can be completely final.
So the commer personas out there on both sides need
(13:41):
to stop looking at well, what's the political you know,
value I can get from really stirring this pot or
really pushing them just one more step and figure out
what's the right thing to do for the United States
of America, which is to come up with at least
two answers, one on each side and then work to
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figure out what is an agreeable compromise between those two.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, but the goals and a scoreboard have to become
the same. It's like when I even want, like Donald
Trump's done a lot of two point oh stuff, and
then every now and then one point oh shows up,
sombrero mustache yesterday over government shutdown. But you know, even
this meeting today, you know you're sending all these messages
into a internet and social media world. Well, there'll be
(14:31):
some going off that he's going to call the military
to turn against the American people. That could spark somebody
to take a violent action. Eventually, the right's going to
get fed up with this and fire back and boom
there you are. So every day I go on the air,
you know, my number one goal is now not get
ours elected or D's elected, or who has more elected.
It's to avoid civil war. And it's about time some
(14:54):
of these leaders start realizing that needs to be our
number one focus right now. First, avoid a civil war. Second,
provide healing and unity. I know in sixty eight Nixon
started talking to the sensible center. That was a big
part of it, the cultural revolution and the Jesus movement,
hippies turned to Christ. It created a real revival, not
a self proclaimed one at a memorial service. And then
(15:16):
the people watching on TV got fed up with seeing
the pain and the violence. And now you're watching assassinations
over and over again on the internet. You would hope
they'd be tired of that as well. I think the
third is possible. I don't see the first two because
no one's talking to the sensible center, certainly not Trump.
Nobody's giving RFK speeches. I don't see any signs of
(15:38):
real revival. The question is does America realize the dangerous
game it's playing, And I don't think it does yet. Well,
have to keep an eye on it. I always love
when you fill in for Lieutenant Colonel James Carafano. Thank
you for your time. I appreciate it so much. Steven Bouchie,
Senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. I'm going to go
over the twenty points by the way of the President's
peace Plan, and I do have a problem with several
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journal honored to serve you. Jeffrey's got the Sound Red
keeping an eye on the content, and the President proposing
a twenty point plan for peace, not just in the
(18:17):
Middle East. He says, this is the most biggest announcement
in civilization history, and this is going to bring eternal peace?
What's it based on? Number One, Gaza will be deradicalized,
terror free zone, as if you could just say it
and then it's so be nice, but the enemy has
a say. Two. Gaza will be redeveloped for the benefit
(18:40):
of the people of Gaza. Who are the people of Gaza?
And it depends on who's roaming around raining and racking
up fear. It's ben Hamas, it's been plo. Who will
it be that would keep this redevelopment for the people.
If both sides agree to this proposal, the war ends
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immediately within seventy two hours of Israel's publicly accepting this agreement.
All hostages alive and deceased will be returned. Once all
the hostages are released, then Israel release two hundred and
fifty life sentence prisoners plus seventeen hundred gossens wo have
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been obtained. Starts really verse six. Once all the hostages
are returned. Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence now
or do the coexist bumper sticker the most naive bumper
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sticker and thought in the history of mankind, because they
do all these symbols But the problem is the Islamist
signal doesn't see the other's rights to exist, but political correctness,
as we can't say that political correctness is. I can't
discuss the three contradictory lives of Mohammad. Early on very peaceful,
(20:12):
very tolerant, then later starts with his uncle, becomes a thief,
the caravans. Then they become political Islamists. They go places,
they populate, they infiltrate, they agitate, and then eventually they
become bloodthirsty warriors. So what is a Muslim to do?
(20:34):
I know what a Christian is to do, love the
Lord thy God with all thy heart's soul and mind,
and to let my neighbor is myself, to be first,
be last, to live die. But to be a good Muslim?
Which is it peaceful tolerant? Well, there are peaceful tolerant Muslims.
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Is it be more political like the Muslim brotherhood? And
there are? And when they get to a tipping point,
they wage war. Show them any sign of weakness or submission,
they'll really wage war. And then there's Jihadis who attack
immediately and you don't know which they are until it's
too late and they've acted. But we know who mo
(21:21):
Hamas is. Hamas is an arm of Iran. They're Shiah Muslims,
and they are jihadists. They're not evil, They're worshiping their
God in the highest level of service. So this notion that, oh,
suddenly they'll just say, oh, okay, now I'm peaceful and
(21:43):
I'm coexisting. Here take my weapons. I use I was
just searching for an analogy of how naive this is. Okay,
your search and decided to leave a bunch of cancer
cells that seem to respond somewhat to the chemo. So
we're gonna just leave them like they're going to change
their spots and suddenly not metastasize. Sorry, number six is
(22:07):
so naive. I can't even take this twenty point plan seriously.
You're going to leave AMAS. I mean, if I was AMAS,
I would accept this deal, be leave all these Hamas members,
have them turn their weapons, say they denounce, and now
they're tolerant, and we'll wait for another time and will
wage war again when things are more favorable for us. Seven.
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Upon acceptance of this agreement, full aid will then immediately
be sent to the Gaza. And where does all that
aid always end up in the hands of the terrorists. Eight.
Entry of distribution and aid in the Gaza will proceed.
It will proceed without interference from two parties from the
United Nations and agencies in the Red Crescent. Gaza will
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be governed under a temporary transitional governance of technocratic a
political Palestinian committee. Nothing there that could be corrupted, of course.
A trump economic development plan to rebuild and energize Gaza
will be created by a convening panel of experts who
have helped birth some of the thriving modern miracles of cities.
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Now we're getting to the riviera of the Middle East.
A special economic zone will be established, with preferred tariff
and access rates to be negotiated with participating countries more
rivier of the Middle East. No one will be forced
to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will
be free to do so and free to return. Thirteen
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Hamas and other factions agree to not have any role
in the governance of the Gaza, directly, indirectly, or in
any form like no history in this region has ever happened.
Fourteen A guarantee will be provided by regional partners to
ensure that Hamas and factions comply with the op obligations.
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I'm only fourteen in and Kashmir is looking smarter. Fifteen.
The United States will work with the Arab and international
parties to develop a temporary International Stabilization Force an ISSF
to immediately be deployed to Gaza. The ISF will train
provide support to vetted Palestinian police forces in Gaza. So
(24:26):
won't be Russian America policing this area. It'll be Jordan
in Egypt. And whoever makes up this ISF sixteen Israel
will not occupy our annex Gaza. It's obeyed in the past,
it doesn't last for long, and the event Hamastelaser rejects
this proposal, the above, including a scale upaid operation, will
(24:47):
proceed in the terror free areas handed over from IDF
to ISSF. Eighteen. Now are really going to get wishful thinking.
An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on values
of talent. Can you imagine, because I know I'm gonna
get some Haiti mail? Can you imagine if Joe Biden
(25:08):
had issued such language, or Barack Obama had issued such language,
but the right would be ripping apart. In this proposal,
an interfaith dialogue process will be established based on values
of tolerance and peaceful coexistence. Now you're back to the
coexistent bumper sticker. Islam does not see Israel's right to exist.
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Islam does not see America's right to exist. Islam's goal
is to rule the world, and you will do it
by bowing and paying attacks. You will do it by dying,
or you will do it by submitting. They win or
you win. They don't play for peaceful tolerance, and even
if they do, it's only for a window of time
(25:56):
until they can rebuild, restrengthen, and then attack again. Nineteen
While God's redevelopment advances and when PA reform programs are
faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place
for a credible pathway to give Palestine the self determinated
statehood within the borders of Israel, as it believes Israel
(26:17):
doesn't have a right to exist. I don't know why
we didn't get this big idea after nine eleven. We
should have just given New York to the Saudi terrorists
and been lauden. That would have been a solution. Then
they'd have been satisfied, then they'd become tolerant. Then we
(26:37):
would have had peace twenty and I don't know why
they felt the need to go twenty deep, other than
knowing twenty it can't happen. Therefore, Israel can go wipe
them out and finish the job without any kind of
political disagreement, because you can always point and say, hey, look,
we gain a peace plan. They didn't take it. Don't
blame Israel, don't blame in the United States. The United
(27:00):
States will establish a dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians
to agree on a political horizon for peaceful and prosperous coexistence.
This thing is so riddled with ignorance of Islam, so
ignorant of the Surah and the Hadiths and the examples
of Mohammad, and blind to history. I'm sorry. I know
(27:24):
I'm just one talk show host, but no I labeled
this naive. Now if a moss plays along, and temporarily
they might, they don't have a lot of moves right now.
It's only to attack again in the future. But I
guess Trump gets his Nobel Peace Prize. I want to
give out one shining star today and again it's John Fetterman,
(27:49):
a CNN story and false Democrats over shutdown strategy. And
warns it would be an ideal outcome for Project twenty
twenty five. Remember when the Democrats made Project twenty twenty
five the boogem Now they're back to making Trump himself
the boogeyman. But here we go again with Fetterman being
the only common sense one. What is he saying? It's
(28:13):
about the American people, not the senator's ego or political
soap operas. What nonsense is he talking about? He warned
of grave consequences for the country of the Democrat lawmakers
withhold their votes to avert a shutdown. You're running the
(28:35):
risk of plunging our nation into chaos, explaining millions and
millions of lives will be upended. Well, I disagree with
that part. That's all hype. We broke down to you
the Axios story, which so clearly points in the last
two government shutdowns, GDP rose, employment rose, spending rose, and
(28:58):
for the temporary employee that were sent home, they all
got back pay. The shutdown isn't the fear. The shutdown
isn't the cancer and scare. It's when it's open, overspending, overgrowing,
and burying you in debt that will destroy you in
(29:20):
the economy, we're only getting it completely relong, completely wrong.
But Fetterman responded to me, it's not about politics of
who gets blamed for it. It's the damage that will
occur to the millions of Americans, not a soap opera.
You know, our core responsibility as senators are to keep
the government open. Well, that's the point I was making yesterday.
(29:44):
The blame game is a joke. It says social media dysfunction.
Congress's job is to make laws and fund the government.
They're just proving they're a failure. But I'm more afraid
of when they do keep the governm opened than when
it closed. Then he went on to say, look, you're
(30:08):
just going to give the open door for them to
make a lot of these cuts permanent be an ideal
outcome for Project twenty twenty five. It's like, oh my god,
we could get that lucky and shutting down the government.
I hope. Ultimately, what he's implying is we got to
stop playing partisan political games. We got to start collectively
(30:33):
doing our job and governing on behalf of the American people. Unfortunately,
Fetterman's one voice. Unfortunately he's not a minority leader of
either the House or the Senate. But I'll conclude by saying,
(30:53):
I don't fear government shutdown. I fear when the government's
opening open and piling up thirty seven trillion dollars of debt.
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Speaker 4 (32:22):
It's your Morning Show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Fifty four minutes after the hours, signs are pointing towards
a government shut down, and if there is, will some
federal workers be permanently fired depending on what the President
does with the temporary government shutdown. We just went over
the Axios story and the previous two government shutdowns, the
GDP rows jobs increased, spending increased, and everybody who was
(32:50):
temporarily out of work turned out to get vacations, they
get back pay. Is this much to do about nothing?
Our national correspondent Roy O'Neil is here with one of
our tops or is the other top story, Rory, is
that apparently they're going to just televise this pemp rally
that we paid to have all these generals and admirals
return home for go figure. I can't cover this stuff
(33:11):
anymore with a straight face. I just can't.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, I've been watching Secretary hegseeth address the generals and admirals,
and a lot of it has been about the personal
grooming and pt regime regimen that even the top generals
are going to have to make sure they're fit. No
more fat generals or fat admirals is essentially the new policy.
No more beards either. But yeah, that's still going down,
(33:36):
and that could have been done in a memo. We
had to fly on a memo so far from what
I'm hearing, but again, I've only got one ear plugged in,
so that's not my full assessment as to what's going on.
President Trump is going to speak to them shortly as well,
so that's part of that. And yeah, the shutdown seems
to be on track. You know, Let's see how the
polling goes and see who gets blamed for this, essentially
(33:58):
to see who blinks.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, I think in this case, I have to agree
with the speaker in terms of what the left is
trying to pull off. In other words, you have to
believe that, oh my gosh, we're gonna have we can't
have a government. Government shutdowns like cancer. It's like death,
it's like you know, and in order to avoid it,
you know, give us back our money for PBS and NPR,
you know, give us back some money for benefits for illegals.
(34:24):
And I do think that's part of the rub I
don't see where a consensus can be found. All I
can see is one side's gonna blink. I don't know who,
and I don't know if it'll be before or after
the shutdown. I mean, that's kind of my assessment. Yeah,
I think I think we're in for at least a
few days.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And let's see if the Democrats try to come back
and fight another day on those tax subsidies for the
Obamacare plans. That's the expensive part of all this. But look,
a lot of Republican senators like that. They represent states
that a lot of residents rely on those subsidies. So
I think there is some middle ground when it comes
to subsidizing the Obamacare plans. But you know, and not
(35:01):
even every Republican is on board. Rand Paul doing what
Rand Paul does, Lisa Murkowski the same.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And as far as the attacker in Grand Blank, Michigan,
I don't think we got a maga. I just think
we have somebody that had a bad relationship living in
Utah with a Mormon and remained obsessed and probably psychotic.
But there's maybe more to learn. Anything I'm missing. That
seems to be the only new information.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It seems to be the only new twist there that
this was more directed and anti Mormon sentiment.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
So we'll have to see what strange is it sounds
he sounds like a great guy and completely normal, and
then like even the guy that was canvassing, you know,
all of a sudden he just breaks in right this
Mormons a great reporting or you will put it all
in the perspective for them again tomorrow one chance to live,
this final day of September. Go make a difference in
someone's life, make sure you cherish your own, and we'll
see it right back here tomorrow morning for your morning show.
(35:57):
We're all in this together. This is you, Your morning
show with Michael del Journo.
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