It’s the two year anniversary of the Hamas attacks in Israel. Why does America stand with Israel? Pastor Allen Jackson of World Outreach Church joins to discuss from biblical to political.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is your morning show on the Aaron streaming live
on your iHeartRadio. App Honored and humbled to serve you.
I am Michael del Jeronald Jeffrey Servian is all up
with Sound Red keeping an eye on the content, and
I'm so glad you're here for this. Very moment doesn't
happen often enough, but when it does, I like to
acknowledge the fate of the moment. I can't think of
any subject that is more important right now to talk about,
(00:21):
and I can't think of any better person to talk
with about it than Pastor Alan Jackson from the World
Outreach Center. It is two years the anniversary of the
Hamas attack on Israel. Why does America stand with Israel?
Why would believers stand with the Jewish people? This needs
to be looked at not from the wild wild Internet
(00:42):
West of conspiracy theories, but from Biblical text, from a historical,
accurate perspective, and from a geopolitical perspective. And I have
found no one that explains it better than Pastor Alan Jackson.
He is the unofficial pastor of your more each show.
Good morning, Pastor, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good more than Michael. It's good to be with you today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, I know that you were friends, did some
things with Charlie Kirk and were shocked and saddened by
his assassination. Already, the Internet has turned that into there
was a trap door, it was a hologram. Shots came
from different places. We have two big names that used
to be in the media that are now untethered on
the internet getting ready to lay this right at the
(01:28):
feet of Israel. And the Masad took out Charlie Kirk
like they did Breitbart. You know, dada, YadA, YadA. We
have the craziness of conspiracy theory, and I have people
emailing me. You must as a pastor, their own sons
are buying into this, their own daughters or their spouse.
(01:49):
We shouldn't be supporting Israel anymore. We've been lied to.
So let's take this first from a biblical perspective. Let's
understand the Jewish people and our past and our present
and our future with them as Christians versus the Israeli government.
From a biblical perspective, why should Christians stand by the
Jewish people?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a great question. Maybe we start with the first one.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There's a lie out there that modern Israel has no
connection to biblical Israel, and to believe that you just
have to have a profound lack of awareness of scripture.
There's clearly a connection promoth prophetically in the New Testament,
in Jesus' own teaching and imagination.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So that's just false narrative. Now we get confused because.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The modern nation of Israel, not everything they do politically,
not every decision they make is godly. Every sin you
can find in Middle Tennessee, you can find in Jerusalem
and certainly in Tel Aviv.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So sometimes we.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hold Israel to some standard that we don't hold Chicago to,
and that makes no sense. But biblically, if you're a
Christ follower, if you're a person of the book, we
owe a tremendous debt to the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
In Roman chapter No, and Paul said, without the Jewish.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
People, we would have no prophets, we would have no covenants,
we would have no law, we would have no scripture,
we would have no Messiah. So we owe a profound debt.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
To the Jewish people.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's not to say every decision they make is right
and every political activity they engage in is appropriate. But
we are absolutely, without question indebted to them for our
spiritual heritage.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm not surprised. I doubt you're going to be when
I ask you the question. There was a time not
long ago where a sitting administration did not support Israel.
One of the two parties had an Israel problem because
a good portion of their party takes sides with the
(03:44):
radical Islamists over the Jewish people. And now we're seeing
the seeds of even in the far right, this notion
of turning America against Israel. How spiritual is that versus
just so social dilemma and craziness on the internet. Is there
something afoot? How long will America stand by Israel? And
(04:08):
why should it? And what happens if it stops?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, I think, like most things, absolutely, I think there's
a spiritual foundation to the question. But it's also multifaceted.
Our schools have failed us. Our universities are in doctrination centers,
they're not places to exchange ideas and learn. And our
churches have failed us. They haven't taught about the significance
of the Jewish people and Israel and our debt to that.
(04:33):
So now we find ourselves in this toxic soup where
there's a spirit. Anti Semitism is driven by the same
spirit that hates Christians. It's the spirit of Antichrist. It
hates the purposes of God and the earth. It's the
Egyptians murdering babies, it's Herod killing babies in Bethlehem. It's
the Holocaust, and now we see it raging on our
(04:56):
formerly elite university campuses. I refuse to call them alite
any law right. You know, these students screaming for free
Palestine from the river to the sea. It's a call
for the genocide of the Jewish people. And so the Church.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Has a role to play in this, not just to sit.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
In our buildings and enjoy our favorite worship music and
our favorite parables from scripture, but to engage our culture
with the truth. If we don't stand up for the
people of God, they will come to our doors. They've
already hunted Charlie. And if we think it's not coming
to the house where we live, we failed to recognize
(05:38):
history and we're not paying attention to the season we're
living it. It's not frightening to me. It's an opportunity.
I think when the enemy is agitated, it's because of
the potential that we possess to make an impact in
our world, So let's get focused on the potential.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Pastor Allen Jackson joining us in the World Outreach Center.
They stood with Israel this Sunday. Andrew and I were
honored to be there, and I recommend everybody go look
up that sermon online. It was spectacular. There are probably
a lot of people that are hearing their kids come
back from college or off the internet with the argument
that the Jewish people are not the chosen people anymore,
(06:14):
not since Christ. I mean, there's so many different ones.
I almost struggled with do I really want to do
these one by one with you? And then the more
over bigger question is what should parents do if I mean, obviously,
if they're not getting that grounding in scripture from their church,
they might want to find a different church. But I
(06:37):
do think you have to as an act of will,
fix your mind on God's word and not the latest
trends on TikTok or social media. But what would you
say to people out there, especially for that one, even
that they're not the chosen people anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, there's God.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There's no choice. That God chose the Jewish people. He
made a covenant with them. Through them, he delivered his
redemptive purposes to the whole earth. Now there's a stream
of church history that grew up that said after that
God rejected the Jewish people, but that's refuted multiple times
in the Book of Romans. In our New Testament, it's
bad theology. God's faithfulness to the Jewish people is the
(07:22):
evidence that he'll be faithful to you and.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Me and keeping his covenant with us.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
In fact, the Book of Romans says that we've been
grafted in to that original tree, so that tree wasn't
uprooted and put in the fire. We are beneficiaries of
that roots of that Judaeo Christian heritage that we have
in the Bible. What I want to say to the
families is you can't give to your children something you
don't have, So you have to begin to read your
(07:48):
Bible on a regular basis, a systematic basis. I'm encouraging
people this fall, wherever I can, to have one meal
together as a family around the table every week, no devices.
It's like a wellness check. Tell me what you cried
about since we were here last? What have you celebrated
since we were here last? Talk about what's happening in
(08:09):
our world? Talk about Charlie's assassination, talk about the second
anniversary of October the seventh. You'll, if you will start.
You can't wait till your kids to come back from
college to start to teach them the truth. You want
to send them away from your home. Fully prepared. Parenting
is a training release program. If you don't train them
before you release them, they're going to come back little pagans.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Let me ask you this, though you see, it seems
to me, Pastor, like we're in a new mentality, and
I know how we got here, at the abandonment of
absolute truth, his way, his truth, his life. For moral
relativism a theory. It's emotion based, it's not fact based.
Now we have built mistrust in government and the medical world,
and politicians and the media. Heck, we don't even trust
(08:52):
each other. It is a perfect storm for anything goes
kind of a thing. But why are I'm just curious,
why are some people more susceptible to these conspiracy theories
over truth than others? Have you ever put your finger
on it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I have a theory, but this is your world more
than mine.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Those of us who stand outside the mainstream media have
accused them of chasing ideologies or chasing advertisers. They want
to keep their corporate masters happy. And I think in
the new media realm now we're seeing people clicks. They
chase clicks. Yeah, so they want sensational headlines, and they'll
take conspiracy theories on because for a few moments or
(09:33):
a few hours, it'll increase the number of clicks they get.
And we're trading our character and integrity for a broader platform.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
As parents, if this is happening to you, I don't
think you engage in the debate. I like what you
just described. That's what I counseled someone to do. If
your kids or your wife are coming at you with
these conspiracy theories, whatever it is, if it's the world
is flat, okay, it's flat. Still, How was your week?
You know, what did you celebrate? What did you cry about?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I guess not engage in it, right, because we have
this mentality. Lose one debate and then we convert kind
of a thing. And that's all it takes to convert
somebody to a conspiracy theory. When if there is the
foundation and all the background in the information. It just
doesn't seem to have that same effect. But I can't
quite figure out where it's coming from. I just know
(10:28):
that it's building and it's affecting some people greatly well.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think if we imagine that the Bible gives us
a presentation of objective truth, I think the attack is
on objective truth. You know, you don't have to say
you're male or female. You have thirty six other options,
which is patently absurd. You know, if somebody says they
don't believe in gravity, I don't argue with them. You know,
it will become abundantly apparent if they just live and
(10:54):
have enough birthdays, and if the parents, then if we
will just educate our I was in the Biblical truth
and not apologize for it, not be ashamed of it,
but don't be heavy handed with it. We don't have
to be dictatorial. It's true and the truth will come
to the surface, and so when somebody presents them. But
we've been afraid of the conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We've been afraid someone's gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Use fancy language and convince us that we're wrong. And
I'm like, no, I don't think so. God created as
male and female and I'm not angry about people.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That are confused about that. I have compassion on them,
but their confusion doesn't confuse me. My father was a veterinarian.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I've seen lots of things born, calves and foals and
kittens and puppies. There's never any confusion at the point
of arrival what they are. And so we've got to
have the courage to believe our Bibles and act like
it's true.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Again, that's because your dad was a veterinary. My best
friend got a cat that I said was a girl.
He named it a girl's name Eleanor, and it turned
out to be a boy. Now he's hobby. So but
that's the difference. Bottom line. Put a ribbon on this.
Let's get rid of movements and theories and just get
to the text of scripture. What would you challenge any
(12:08):
believers that are struggling with supporting Israel to go read
and fill their mind equally.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
With Yeah, yeah, I'd read Romans nine, ten, and eleven.
You read those three chapters and you'll get Paul's argument.
But I think there's an important point today, Michael. It's
not the question you asked, but this is the second
anniversary of the October seventh attack, and Israel was in
a very precarious position that day. They were being attacked
(12:35):
by Hamas in the north, I mean in the south.
Has Bala in the north had hundreds of thousands of
the Rainyan and Russian made missiles, and Iran was threatening
them with the nuclear potential. Two years later, Hamas is
almost totally eradicated, Hezballah has been tremendously weakened, and Iranian
nuclear capabilities for the moment have been sidelined. Those things
(12:59):
were imposed two years ago. Now there are still hostages
in those awful tunnels right and the story isn't finished yet.
But the outcome two years later is an expression of
the power of God and the mercy of God. In
spite of opposition from the United States and the United
Nations and the global community. God is faithful to his
(13:19):
promises in the earth. He'd be faithful to the ones
he's made to the Jewish people, and he'll be faithful
to the ones he's made to us.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
He's trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Pastor Alan Jackson World Outreach, Jenner, thanks for joining us,
and I encourage people to go to your website and
hear the sermon from Sunday, that would have been October fifth.
I think he'll give you a lot of powerful truths,
and I appreciate your church and inviting us and standing
with Israel.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Thank you so much
This is your morning show on the Aaron streaming live
on your iHeartRadio. App Honored and humbled to serve you.
I am Michael del Jeronald Jeffrey Servian is all up
with Sound Red keeping an eye on the content, and
I'm so glad you're here for this. Very moment doesn't
happen often enough, but when it does, I like to
acknowledge the fate of the moment. I can't think of
any subject that is more important right now to talk about,
(00:21):
and I can't think of any better person to talk
with about it than Pastor Alan Jackson from the World
Outreach Center. It is two years the anniversary of the
Hamas attack on Israel. Why does America stand with Israel?
Why would believers stand with the Jewish people? This needs
to be looked at not from the wild wild Internet
(00:42):
West of conspiracy theories, but from Biblical text, from a historical,
accurate perspective, and from a geopolitical perspective. And I have
found no one that explains it better than Pastor Alan Jackson.
He is the unofficial pastor of your more each show.
Good morning, Pastor, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Good more than Michael. It's good to be with you today.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know, I know that you were friends, did some
things with Charlie Kirk and were shocked and saddened by
his assassination. Already, the Internet has turned that into there
was a trap door, it was a hologram. Shots came
from different places. We have two big names that used
to be in the media that are now untethered on
the internet getting ready to lay this right at the
(01:28):
feet of Israel. And the Masad took out Charlie Kirk
like they did Breitbart. You know, dada, YadA, YadA. We
have the craziness of conspiracy theory, and I have people
emailing me. You must as a pastor, their own sons
are buying into this, their own daughters or their spouse.
(01:49):
We shouldn't be supporting Israel anymore. We've been lied to.
So let's take this first from a biblical perspective. Let's
understand the Jewish people and our past and our present
and our future with them as Christians versus the Israeli government.
From a biblical perspective, why should Christians stand by the
Jewish people?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That's a great question. Maybe we start with the first one.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
There's a lie out there that modern Israel has no
connection to biblical Israel, and to believe that you just
have to have a profound lack of awareness of scripture.
There's clearly a connection promoth prophetically in the New Testament,
in Jesus' own teaching and imagination.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So that's just false narrative. Now we get confused because.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
The modern nation of Israel, not everything they do politically,
not every decision they make is godly. Every sin you
can find in Middle Tennessee, you can find in Jerusalem
and certainly in Tel Aviv.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So sometimes we.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hold Israel to some standard that we don't hold Chicago to,
and that makes no sense. But biblically, if you're a
Christ follower, if you're a person of the book, we
owe a tremendous debt to the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
In Roman chapter No, and Paul said, without the Jewish.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
People, we would have no prophets, we would have no covenants,
we would have no law, we would have no scripture,
we would have no Messiah. So we owe a profound debt.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
To the Jewish people.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's not to say every decision they make is right
and every political activity they engage in is appropriate. But
we are absolutely, without question indebted to them for our
spiritual heritage.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm not surprised. I doubt you're going to be when
I ask you the question. There was a time not
long ago where a sitting administration did not support Israel.
One of the two parties had an Israel problem because
a good portion of their party takes sides with the
(03:44):
radical Islamists over the Jewish people. And now we're seeing
the seeds of even in the far right, this notion
of turning America against Israel. How spiritual is that versus
just so social dilemma and craziness on the internet. Is there
something afoot? How long will America stand by Israel? And
(04:08):
why should it? And what happens if it stops?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Well, I think, like most things, absolutely, I think there's
a spiritual foundation to the question. But it's also multifaceted.
Our schools have failed us. Our universities are in doctrination centers,
they're not places to exchange ideas and learn. And our
churches have failed us. They haven't taught about the significance
of the Jewish people and Israel and our debt to that.
(04:33):
So now we find ourselves in this toxic soup where
there's a spirit. Anti Semitism is driven by the same
spirit that hates Christians. It's the spirit of Antichrist. It
hates the purposes of God and the earth. It's the
Egyptians murdering babies, it's Herod killing babies in Bethlehem. It's
the Holocaust, and now we see it raging on our
(04:56):
formerly elite university campuses. I refuse to call them alite
any law right. You know, these students screaming for free
Palestine from the river to the sea. It's a call
for the genocide of the Jewish people. And so the Church.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Has a role to play in this, not just to sit.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
In our buildings and enjoy our favorite worship music and
our favorite parables from scripture, but to engage our culture
with the truth. If we don't stand up for the
people of God, they will come to our doors. They've
already hunted Charlie. And if we think it's not coming
to the house where we live, we failed to recognize
(05:38):
history and we're not paying attention to the season we're
living it. It's not frightening to me. It's an opportunity.
I think when the enemy is agitated, it's because of
the potential that we possess to make an impact in
our world, So let's get focused on the potential.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Pastor Allen Jackson joining us in the World Outreach Center.
They stood with Israel this Sunday. Andrew and I were
honored to be there, and I recommend everybody go look
up that sermon online. It was spectacular. There are probably
a lot of people that are hearing their kids come
back from college or off the internet with the argument
that the Jewish people are not the chosen people anymore,
(06:14):
not since Christ. I mean, there's so many different ones.
I almost struggled with do I really want to do
these one by one with you? And then the more
over bigger question is what should parents do if I mean, obviously,
if they're not getting that grounding in scripture from their church,
they might want to find a different church. But I
(06:37):
do think you have to as an act of will,
fix your mind on God's word and not the latest
trends on TikTok or social media. But what would you
say to people out there, especially for that one, even
that they're not the chosen people anymore?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, there's God.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
There's no choice. That God chose the Jewish people. He
made a covenant with them. Through them, he delivered his
redemptive purposes to the whole earth. Now there's a stream
of church history that grew up that said after that
God rejected the Jewish people, but that's refuted multiple times
in the Book of Romans. In our New Testament, it's
bad theology. God's faithfulness to the Jewish people is the
(07:22):
evidence that he'll be faithful to you and.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Me and keeping his covenant with us.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
In fact, the Book of Romans says that we've been
grafted in to that original tree, so that tree wasn't
uprooted and put in the fire. We are beneficiaries of
that roots of that Judaeo Christian heritage that we have
in the Bible. What I want to say to the
families is you can't give to your children something you
don't have, So you have to begin to read your
(07:48):
Bible on a regular basis, a systematic basis. I'm encouraging
people this fall, wherever I can, to have one meal
together as a family around the table every week, no devices.
It's like a wellness check. Tell me what you cried
about since we were here last? What have you celebrated
since we were here last? Talk about what's happening in
(08:09):
our world? Talk about Charlie's assassination, talk about the second
anniversary of October the seventh. You'll, if you will start.
You can't wait till your kids to come back from
college to start to teach them the truth. You want
to send them away from your home. Fully prepared. Parenting
is a training release program. If you don't train them
before you release them, they're going to come back little pagans.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Let me ask you this, though you see, it seems
to me, Pastor, like we're in a new mentality, and
I know how we got here, at the abandonment of
absolute truth, his way, his truth, his life. For moral
relativism a theory. It's emotion based, it's not fact based.
Now we have built mistrust in government and the medical world,
and politicians and the media. Heck, we don't even trust
(08:52):
each other. It is a perfect storm for anything goes
kind of a thing. But why are I'm just curious,
why are some people more susceptible to these conspiracy theories
over truth than others? Have you ever put your finger
on it?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I have a theory, but this is your world more
than mine.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Those of us who stand outside the mainstream media have
accused them of chasing ideologies or chasing advertisers. They want
to keep their corporate masters happy. And I think in
the new media realm now we're seeing people clicks. They
chase clicks. Yeah, so they want sensational headlines, and they'll
take conspiracy theories on because for a few moments or
(09:33):
a few hours, it'll increase the number of clicks they get.
And we're trading our character and integrity for a broader platform.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It's unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
As parents, if this is happening to you, I don't
think you engage in the debate. I like what you
just described. That's what I counseled someone to do. If
your kids or your wife are coming at you with
these conspiracy theories, whatever it is, if it's the world
is flat, okay, it's flat. Still, How was your week?
You know, what did you celebrate? What did you cry about?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I guess not engage in it, right, because we have
this mentality. Lose one debate and then we convert kind
of a thing. And that's all it takes to convert
somebody to a conspiracy theory. When if there is the
foundation and all the background in the information. It just
doesn't seem to have that same effect. But I can't
quite figure out where it's coming from. I just know
(10:28):
that it's building and it's affecting some people greatly well.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think if we imagine that the Bible gives us
a presentation of objective truth, I think the attack is
on objective truth. You know, you don't have to say
you're male or female. You have thirty six other options,
which is patently absurd. You know, if somebody says they
don't believe in gravity, I don't argue with them. You know,
it will become abundantly apparent if they just live and
(10:54):
have enough birthdays, and if the parents, then if we
will just educate our I was in the Biblical truth
and not apologize for it, not be ashamed of it,
but don't be heavy handed with it. We don't have
to be dictatorial. It's true and the truth will come
to the surface, and so when somebody presents them. But
we've been afraid of the conversations.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We've been afraid someone's gonna.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Use fancy language and convince us that we're wrong. And
I'm like, no, I don't think so. God created as
male and female and I'm not angry about people.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That are confused about that. I have compassion on them,
but their confusion doesn't confuse me. My father was a veterinarian.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I've seen lots of things born, calves and foals and
kittens and puppies. There's never any confusion at the point
of arrival what they are. And so we've got to
have the courage to believe our Bibles and act like
it's true.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Again, that's because your dad was a veterinary. My best
friend got a cat that I said was a girl.
He named it a girl's name Eleanor, and it turned
out to be a boy. Now he's hobby. So but
that's the difference. Bottom line. Put a ribbon on this.
Let's get rid of movements and theories and just get
to the text of scripture. What would you challenge any
(12:08):
believers that are struggling with supporting Israel to go read
and fill their mind equally.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
With Yeah, yeah, I'd read Romans nine, ten, and eleven.
You read those three chapters and you'll get Paul's argument.
But I think there's an important point today, Michael. It's
not the question you asked, but this is the second
anniversary of the October seventh attack, and Israel was in
a very precarious position that day. They were being attacked
(12:35):
by Hamas in the north, I mean in the south.
Has Bala in the north had hundreds of thousands of
the Rainyan and Russian made missiles, and Iran was threatening
them with the nuclear potential. Two years later, Hamas is
almost totally eradicated, Hezballah has been tremendously weakened, and Iranian
nuclear capabilities for the moment have been sidelined. Those things
(12:59):
were imposed two years ago. Now there are still hostages
in those awful tunnels right and the story isn't finished yet.
But the outcome two years later is an expression of
the power of God and the mercy of God. In
spite of opposition from the United States and the United
Nations and the global community. God is faithful to his
(13:19):
promises in the earth. He'd be faithful to the ones
he's made to the Jewish people, and he'll be faithful
to the ones he's made to us.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
He's trustworthy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Pastor Alan Jackson World Outreach, Jenner, thanks for joining us,
and I encourage people to go to your website and
hear the sermon from Sunday, that would have been October fifth.
I think he'll give you a lot of powerful truths,
and I appreciate your church and inviting us and standing
with Israel.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Thank you so much
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