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Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's good news.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals overruled activist judges allowing
President Trump to employee National Guard troops to Portland. And
we had another failed budget vote as the government shutdown continues.
It's now the second longest shutdown in history. Great night
for the Lions beating the Bucks, and it was good
to see. In addition to great offense, great defense. The

(02:14):
Seahawks won the second half of the doubleheader on Monday
night football, but unfortunately their baseball Mariners lost Game seven.
It'll be the Blue Jays and the Dodgers Game one
in Toronto on Friday night. Well, we've got Hamas in
the gozap we've got phase two of the peace talks,
and Marco Rubio has arrived in Israel to discuss that.
Plus the Russia talks and the Tomahawks. There's a lot

(02:36):
to cover on the military and foreign policy front. We
say good morning to Colonel Stephen Bochie. Good morning, colonel,
good morning. Thank you for having me back on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I would say it this way.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Obviously, step one was get all of the living hostages back.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
We did.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
We got another body back yesterday, but a long way
to go in giving the families closure. Thing was moving
on to phase two, but we had a little turbulence.
And the question at Beggs is is the Hamas leadership
that's negotiating piece in control of all of Hamas. So
do we have you know, a bad negotiating Hamas or

(03:16):
does Hamas Net have control of all of its thugs.
Either way, we had some Hamas people to take care of,
and I suspect we might have sporadic turbulence in the
Gaza until they're eradicated.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
But how do you see.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
It I think it's a little of both. I think
the leaders who are doing negotiating, you know, they've actually
delivered way more than I expected them to. I didn't
think we'd get through that, getting the twenty live people
out before it started to break down, but they did.
So there's some you know, validity, some good will there,

(03:55):
but I'm not sure there's a whole bunch. If they
get the opportunity to play fast loose, they will. But
the second part is also an issue. You you know,
HAMAS is not like you know, the United States Army.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
It's not that disciplined to group.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
And there's a lot of free radicals out there, if
you will, that you know, could do whatever they darn
well please. And that's before the two thousand you know,
mulks that were in jail, convicted murderers for the most pleast,
who have been released that they may say, well, I
don't I don't even know those guys that are in charge.

(04:32):
Now I've been in jail for twenty years. I'm going
to time to start my as you hot again. Uh
so there's Look, this is not going to be a
perfect action, a perfect transition from the all out war
to something more akin to peace. It's going to be
kind of bumpy. And the Israelis know that. Hamas knows that, Uh,

(04:55):
and the rest of the world. You know, we tend
to think, well, they said they stop shooting, so everybody
should stop shooting. Well, you know, I've been watching this
kind of stuff for a long time, Michael.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
It almost never works that way.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
There's always fits and starts and violations, and you know, overstepping.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
UH.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
If we can minimize that, that's great.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
And if as long as we keep moving in the
right direction, I think we're we're on a positive track.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
This is not the answer.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
No, this, this, this topic is in both of our
areas of expertise, and no one has converted their soul.
If you understand the three contradictory lives of Mohammad, and
you understand a jihadist Shia Muslim UH funded by Iran,
their only promise of eternal life is to die in jihad.
So until you convert their soul, UH, there's only one

(05:47):
way out of this, and that's defeat. So they're not
going to go willingly. They cut the deal to try
to get some regroup time. But we always knew the
most difficult part was phase two. In a sense, phase
two has begun Boch two. Phase two is much harder.
Finding the bodies is going to be tough.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, you cut off for some reason.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
What I was gonna say is part of phase two
is disarming Hamas. I never liked the twenty point plan
that allowed Hamas to say, say, because that's like leaving
a cancer cell and pretending it's going to be a
healthy cell.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's gonna always be a cancer cell, and sooner or
later it's going to grow and metastasize. But in a sense,
I thought the most difficult part of phase two, which
is Hamas disarming itself and leaving, is kind of already
begun in the sense that they're having to eradicate them.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
They're not leaving willingly.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, it's you know, they're these guys are true believers.
They're they're not just gonna, oh, okay, we lost, let's
go home. We'll you know, go back to selling fruit
in the market.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
You know, most of these guys have never sold fruit
in the market. They've been terrorists, they were little kids.
It's going to take a while to convince them that
they need to do this differently.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
And you know, we got to keep praying.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
You know, if we can change the sole part that
that's even bigger obviously, and but it's harder because you've
got resistant human in the process, and and you know,
they believe something very different than we do.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Big news today is the President making it clear once
again there'll be no US troops in Gaza. First of all,
Israel doesn't need them. That's number one. Number two, we
wouldn't want such a presence or escalation diplomatically or politically.
What is Marco Rubio's marching orders? What is he trying
to set up in kicking off phase two? Is this
where the Arabian nations and the reasonable Muslim nations and

(07:47):
creating a new future starts to take shape.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, this is the you know, where we're trying to
get these other countries who have said that, yes, I
want to be a part of this. You know, the
leaders have have rogered up and said they will be
a part of the solution. Now not the problem. Uh,
but now they got to actually do it. And you know,
some of them have some experience in this area.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Some of them don't.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
You know, not every military knows how to do peacekeeping,
knows how to do this sort of stand between the
two combatants kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
And to be honest with you, none of the countries
that I've seen pakistanis a little bit have they've done
this sort of thing before. The Saudis have never done it.
The Jordanians have tried to do it in their own
country dealing with refugees and people like that, but.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Not so much anywhere else. So it's going to take
them a couple of days to what about.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Turkey, boots, what about Turkey?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
You know, Turkey has the experience.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Remember, they've got the biggest military in NATO, just in numbers,
but it's a conscript army. There's they've got a lot
of professional officers, but their troops are all conscripts. And
you're talking about sending Turks back into the Levant.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yes, they're fellow Muslims, and.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Then with Airdwan, they're even fellow you know, Islamists because
he's a Muslim Brotherhood guy.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
But they're Turks.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
And the Arabs don't like the Turks because the last
time the Turks came in they stayed for four hundred
and some years.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
She Iss don't like them either very much, all right,
So now that's a problem that's a problem, Stephen, butchie
joining us with the Heritage Foundation. I take a great
sign in the President making that statement there'll be no
US troops in the Gaza. I love hearing that, And
then I also love hearing he's not being pressured into
giving Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. That's the level of escalator. Listen,
wars don't They rarely ever end where they begin, and

(09:51):
they very rarely ever end with the same players they
begin with. You want to aid Ukraine, you want to
pressure Russia to peace, but you don't want to escalate
this and you don't want to make it a take
it from a proxy war to a direct war. So
I think you would agree with me smart on both.
No troops in the Gaza, no Tomahawks to Ukraine. But
I want your opinion. You're the colonel, not me.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
No, I agree one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know, there will probably be some US troops in
Israel helping with some of the logistics and things like that.
You know, could Israel do it all by himself, Yeah
they could, but they you know, having some Americans there,
not in Gaza where there'll be targets, but in other
parts of Israel.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
The tomahawks, I agree completely. You know, and Trump talked
about the tomahawks. Then I think some of our people
talk to him and say, hey, boss, we don't have
like an unlimited supplies to those things. And you're talking
about allowing them to be able to hit Moscow, And
I'm not sure he wants to raise it to.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Accurately, accurate accurately with a lot of high casualties. We're
running short on time. Want to get this one last question.
And because I think this is significant. As much as
I love the idea, follow me on this kernel. As
much as I love the idea of getting the Arab
nations involved, getting the reasonable Muslim nations involved, having them
oversee this area, create a peace, a stability, and a

(11:16):
prosperity so they don't have to turn to thugs. It
still ignores that the people in Palestine would prefer a thug.
It also unites You brought up Turkey, and and.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
And some of the different sects of Islam.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
You start uniting them in one force inside the borders
of Israel.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, isn't that our worst nightmare?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
If all the Muslim sects believe this is the hour
of Jihad, and the Shiahs, and the and the Sunnies
and and and the Turks all unite. That that could
be problematic. Too careful what you create in peace too, right,
it is.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
A potential danger. But I think the draw of doing
business with Israel, benefiting from the changes that are going
into place will draw the governments. Now, the governments have
to work on their people to keep the street happy.
But I think the people in the capitals are you know,

(12:14):
they're being pragmatic and I think that will hopefully win
the day.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Have we ever been honest about the Palestinian people, because
they too don't see Israel's right to exist, even though
they're living inside the borders of Israel and they have
chosen the plo, they have chosen Hamas. What makes us
think in the long term that they'll make good choices
in the future. Well, we're hoping peace, security and prosperity, right.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah, there's no guarantee for sure. You know, the common
Palestinian in the street for the most part, supports Hamas,
supports trying to eradicate Israel.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
But then they go.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Crazy and say, oh my god, how terribly they're treating us. Well,
you know, at some point, you got to take responsibility.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
For yours in your actions.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Hopefully we're at the point where at least some of
them will start doing that.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Maybe that'll draw some more. You gotta try.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, I keep praying that there'll be a week. Stephen.
We have very little to talk about.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't see it coming anytime soon, but I'm so
grateful for your analysis. In the meantime, Steven Bouchie with
the Heritage Foundation, you can read his great work, his
colleagues great work at Heritage dot org.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
God bless you, my friend. We'll talk soon.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
God bless Michael. Take care.

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This is your Morning Show with Michael del Choono.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I got this from Chuck. I think Chuck is Tulsa.
What's up, Chuck, Chuck says Michael. Did I miss by
the way, Chuck, this is going to freak you out.
I thought this. I've been thinking about it for days,
but I literally went out to let my dog out
and I thought about it five minutes before you read

(15:16):
email came. Did I miss it or did we revert
back to standard non daylight savings time? Sure seems dark
at seven am. All right, Well we are twelve days away.
It'll be Sunday, November this second that we turned the
clocks back to daylight savings time. And that's, by the way,
that's the only time for the three of us. Yes,

(15:38):
it's a wonderful time of the year. Why because it
gets dark so early, which I know you hate, but
we love because we're able to go to bed early.
Like you can't go to bed when the sun's out,
you just can't. And so in the summer, when it's
light out until almost eight or in some of your cases,
after eight pm, we tend to stay up till nine,

(15:59):
and then we tend to live on four hours sleep
all week.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
We kind of stretched it there. I would say, you what.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You betty, You're gone even in the oh even in
the day.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
My wife hops our bedroom dark, so I'm out.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
But in the winter when it gets dark at like
five o'clock in the afternoon, four or forty five, you know,
we're asleep by six, and then you get an eight
hour rested morning show. But something's up. I don't remember
it this dark weeks prior to changing.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Well.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
I think they've kind of extended the daylight savings.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Did they, because it's getting dark on its own.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
It used to be October, this would happened now it's November,
so I think they've extended it by like four weeks.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But the answer to Chuck's question, Sunday, November two, we
got twelve more days. Amazon's web service is back up,
and boy do we realize how many people were dependent
on that cloud, including my ring cameras. The President said
there'll be no US troops on the ground in Gaza.
Marco Rubio has arrived in Israel, where they start the

(17:00):
Phase two planning. The Ninth Circuit Court gave a victory
to the president. It's kind of a trend, right You
get a radical judge, obstructionist judge, makes a ruling and
then when it gets to an appeals court it gets overruled.
So the president can deploy the National Guard in Portland.

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Speaker 2 (17:48):
AWS has been restored, so your ring cameras are working
another field budget. This is now the second longest government shutdown,
and the inside intel is well the Democrat leadership is
afraid to reopen the government and compromise on any deals
with the Republicans because after the seven million No Kings March,
we're afraid we'll get hammered. So you actually have one

(18:11):
of the two major parties afraid of its own base.
Not that it really was seven million, and not that
that's their actual base, but that is a party in
the midst of a civil war.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
And I'm not the only one saying it.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Always revealing, often entertaining, suffer not by sounds of the day.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
I'm waiting on the consequences.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
It's the best way to get back on your faer
is to get.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Up off your ass.

Speaker 8 (18:36):
I've been living rentfree in that guy's head for years,
and that's just a bum.

Speaker 9 (18:39):
Do you call that chicken a d They're.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Just blowing off, Steve.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, let's get to our sounds today. So Governor Cuomo
was on Fox and talking about his race with Mom
Dommi and what this race really represents. Somebody got the
temperature in hell. I think it froze over me and
Cuomo in agreement. The Democrat parties in a civil war,

(19:04):
and you have to look no further than New York
to see it.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
And it's very clear what is happening here. This is
still an ongoing civil war within the Democratic Party where
you have this extreme radical left. That's what Zoran Mandami represents.
They are socialists, they are anti business, they are anti police,

(19:27):
they are anti law in order, they are anti Israel.
And I am a quote unquote moderate Democrat. I want
to create jobs, I want to enforce the law, improve
the quality of life.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Just keep them away from the elderly. He's right, though,
And it's funny how the analysts and the pundits are
all talking about that seven million as if it's really
seven million. That's a united energized party, and the Republicans
should be afraid of them in the midterm election, and

(20:05):
senators with the government shut down should be afraid of
them if they came to the Republicans, And to me,
it proves the opposite. It shows how divided they are.
First of all, you're buying their seven million number, but
even compared to what the seventy seven million that voted

(20:27):
for Trump, whether it was three million or seven million,
that did a no King's March and a representative constitutional
republic that clearly doesn't have a king, or they wouldn't
be marching or allowed to march. We have a duly
elected president by seventy seven plus million Americans. He carried

(20:47):
ninety percent of all counties, he won all seven swing states,
He won the popular vote, and an electoral landslide with
three hundred.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
And twelve Where's the King?

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Now?

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You'll always find an idiot like Robert Nero is selling
you some ridiculous narrative in a character voice from Meet
the Parents.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
But that doesn't make it so will we see it?

Speaker 5 (21:09):
We see it? We see it every we see it
all the time.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
He will not want to leave. He set it up.
You said that the first time. And guess what he
left with his.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I guess he's the Gebbels of the of the cabinets,
the Gebbels. Well, I guess it wasn't in the script.
Goodness knows. They don't graduate high school to study history.

Speaker 10 (21:31):
Steven Miller, he's he's a Nazi, Yes he is, and
he's Jewish.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
He should be ashamed of himself.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, I'm sure he would be if he was a Nazi.
And it's nice to know that Charlie Kirk's body is
buried and cooling off to where you can say those
kinds of things. But when you go inside the numbers,
the favorability rating is in favor of the Republicans, and
the Democrats are down points below the Republicans, and now

(22:01):
two points from the last time the survey was taken,
and they've lost over six points with independence. How that
could be growing as Democrats are leaving the party. And
we talk about turnout because it's important, but turnout comes
from a united party, a united energized party, a united

(22:22):
energized party behind a candidate or behind key issues in
a timely way, especially when they land in swing states.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
None of that is happening.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I can't believe any whether it's radio or television pundits
that are buying that weekend irrelevant stunt and calling that
unity when it's division and energy when it's civil war
and oh my gosh, me and Governor Cuomo are on
the same page.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
That's scary.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Speaking of numbers, we always love to go to Harriet
and CNN. In the midst of all this CNN narratives
and lies, there's always Harry Enton giving them the truth
that they ignore. Well, that came up when we run
the numbers of how this shutdown differs from the shutdown
of the Trump first term.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Watch it amazing.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Turns out shutdowns are different the second time around when
it comes to Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Take a look here.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
You know, we speak about Donald Trump shutdowns net approval rating.
We're talking twenty days into it. In twenty eighteen slash
twenty nineteen, Donald Trump's not approprating was already falling. The
shutdown was eating and it was popular support. It was
down three points already at this particular point and would
fall considerably more.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
It was very much on the decline you come over
to this side of the screen.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
This shutdown hasn't eaten and the Donald Trump support at
all isn't.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
That approval rating is actually up.

Speaker 8 (23:45):
A point and in terms of in terms of his
popular support. So the bottom line is this. The first
shutdown during Trump's first term twenty eighteen twenty nineteen was
hurting Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
This one is not hurting him at all.

Speaker 8 (23:56):
There's no real reason Donald Trump might say, at least
when it comes to popular support, I want to get
out of the shop.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So the Democrat senators, according to the article in The
Hill with behind the scenes interviews, is Democrats unwilling to
reach a deal because they would get hammered by the
seven million No Kings marchers who want them to continue
to fight a party afraid of its base, listening to

(24:22):
a narrative and false space while the blame continues to
point to them, clearly not the President nor the Republicans.
What does this big victory in an appeals court mean
for the President beyond just being able to send guard

(24:44):
troops now into Portland as he did DC, or maybe
Chicago or Memphis or anywhere else. Well, it means obviously
security for those cities, but there's a much bigger strategy
and game plan that Donald Trump is brilliantly destroyed. And
American Majority's Ned Ryan runs it down for you.

Speaker 9 (25:07):
The power basis for Democrats in these various states are
the urban bases, and they really are single party many states.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay, that's a mouthful, but powerfully true. Remember when I
tell you that Donald Trump carried ninety percent of the counties.
Remember every time you look in at the electoral college map
and it's all red, and there's these little circles of blue,
and yet the race is within a couple one hundred thousand.
How does that happen? Because there's more people living in

(25:36):
those urban areas. And while the states may be read,
those urban cities are blue pandering politicians dependent on government,
people narrativized and radicalized and indoctrinated and gindup, what a
great statement. There are almost like little mini states within
the state at war with their state, at war with

(25:59):
the and in the media centers that like to carry
their narratives disproportionately.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
But wait, he's just begun.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
If somehow Trump comes in and ruins their business model
of keeping crime and illiteracy and illegal immigration all of
these things. He breaks their business model, which undermines their
political power, and then all of a sudden it becomes
a different, completely different game. I mean, think about Pennsylvania.
If Democrats lose Philadelphia in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania goes right every time.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, how different is the world.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
For the Democrats without a dominance in Philadelphia, a dominance
in Atlanta, a dominance in Milwaukee. There I just pick
three cities that in some cases scandalously or what they
would call a shadow campaign, others might call stealing an election.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
They stole a few.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know, we talk about this handoff that the president
because this is mostly Trump, not Republican. This is orange waves,
not red waves. But he's got to turn it into
a handoff to a successor. And he begins his message
today as he begins to midterm campaign of making this
a Republican mandate. Now, whether he can do it, time

(27:21):
will tell. But if he does, that's huge. But this
dismantling of their inner city dominance and strategy and mom
Donnie's race in New York, which by the way, blows
up even worse if he wins this model, this business plan.
That's the brilliance of Donald Trump. For whomever his successor is,

(27:45):
Republican or Democrat. Final piece of sound cringe Jean Pierre,
by the way, her hair straight. Now it's not the
same these guys, you know, they all come out write
their books, whether it's Mama La Kamala, whether it's KGP.

(28:08):
And we're supposed to believe that these people, like a
vice president and a White House spokesperson that works so
closely with the President daily, couldn't see a cognitive decline.
Now I know because I've read the Time magazine February
fourteenth piece in twenty twenty one, which was a manifesto

(28:31):
entitled the Shadow Campaign to Save the Democracy. Ron Klain,
all the architects of the twenty twenty election stealing admit
it in this article, and Clain went on to be
chief of staff. And what they're telling you is democracy
was at stake. We had to do what we had
to do. We were willing to have an insurrection and

(28:52):
it was hard to call it off. But the strategy
was to peacefully change election laws without going through state legislatures,
by weaponizing COVID harvesting ballots and swing districts, swing precincts
of swing districts of swing states and steal the election
because we have to. Democracy was at stake, and they

(29:16):
put an old man in office. But he clearly wasn't president.
So who was Not only are we not getting to
the who was president? Who was behind the auto pens?
We can't even get the people that worked with him
daily to be honest about what they saw. And Karine
Jean Pierre was the latest.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
I was his White House Press secretary, which means I
had a role that saw him practically every day and
traveled with him.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
You saw for more than er Gail King, you saw nothing.

Speaker 11 (29:43):
I see nothing.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Wa he doesn't even respond to that.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
So for more than.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
Ninety percent, we've always said we're not going to say,
oh he didn't age.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
He aged and he poked fun at it.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
We always owned up and with age comes what happens
when you get older, which.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Is what I Another question not answered, which is incontinence,
word salads, inability to know who he was? Who is
vice president?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Is?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Who was really the dave running the country while he
was pretending. I love how CBS. By the way, CBS
has new leadership, now new leadership that says we're going
to start being more down the middle We're not going
to be in the back pocket of the Democrat Party.
We're not going to be biased anymore. This could affect

(30:38):
sixty minutes in the future. Maybe it's affecting the morning show.
Watch how these hosts are asking questions she's not answered.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
We're not going to say, oh, he didn't age.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
He aged and he poked fun at it.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
We always owned up and with age comes what happens
when you.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Get older, which is what I when.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
We talk about the mental acuity. And again, I take
this very, very very seriously. I never saw anyone who
wasn't there. I saw someone who was always engaged. I
saw someone who understood policy, pushed us on the policy,
and also understood history. And there were times, I'll tell
you the story, there were times where he would call

(31:16):
me into the Oval office and I would be like,
oh no, oh no, because I knew whatever he was
going to ask me was going to be direct, was going.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
To be about a story he.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Read about, how we're pushing back, how we're pushing a
message for.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Anything. She obviously never watched the debates.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
We will win, we will live about your girly man
does not make you an says, take thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
That is your Sounds of the Day.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
It's your morning show with Michael del Choano.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
AWS is back and restored. You may have noticed you
ring cameras are back. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
as ruled President Trump can deploy US Guard troops to
Portland and in Seattle. A bittersweet night, Seahawks won in
Monday Night Football, but then the Mariners lost a three
run home run by George Springer sprung the Blue Jays

(32:26):
to the World Series. It'll be all Blue, Blue Jays
Dodger Blue game one Friday night in Toronto, and a
big win for the Lions over the Bucks. And the
Lion's showing some great defense in addition to great offense,
which I know has got a lot of people in
Detroit excited. All right, before we get to AI jobs,
National correspondent Roory O'Neil is here the latest on AWS.

(32:47):
We probably shouldn't have all our eggs and three baskets
because one of them went down yesterday.

Speaker 11 (32:52):
Well right, and you know, it does show that vulnerability
out there that the cloud service is provided by Amazon
essentially keep most of the Internet and running. So it
is a bit scary to realize so many eggs are
in that one basket. Maybe it's a warning signal that
perhaps some other changes should be made to how the
whole system is set up so that we're not reliant

(33:13):
on just one company. But boy, they have been awfully
reliant as a rule so far.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We interrupt the easy part of this interview to ask
Rory to explain to us by way of Amazon exactly
what happened yesterday, because I think it had something to
do with the DTT upload of the SS two and
the C twenty nine space module toor Yeah, So it
was a denial of service type of type of issue
that essentially the system was unable to convert what you

(33:43):
were typing in with text to the numerical value assigned
to website.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's exactly what I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, right, and the answer was to twenty two twenty one,
whatever it takes, right, whatever it takes.

Speaker 11 (33:55):
Yeah, and yeah, they finally got a squared away around
six o'clock last night Eastern time. So in all, it
was about a thirteen hour up and down with these
AWS services affecting everything from the McDonald's app to Venmo,
to Snapchat and beyond.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, lucky for me, my hair products arrived from Amazon,
but my kids' homework abilities was cut off by Belmont
University and I had no ring cameras. All right, we
always talk about AI being a job killer, but AI
does provide career opportunities, but expect a very.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Competitive business nature and culture.

Speaker 11 (34:31):
Yeah, that's it. Have you heard the term nine ninety six. No,
nine ninety six is that's your schedule? You work nine
to nine, six days a week, and it's in the office.
No more of this sitting in your pj's at home,
ordering in lattes while you occasionally check an email.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Honey, hold the latte and bring me some parts. Go ahead, Rory.

Speaker 11 (34:52):
These are these these young guys in particular, are cranking
it out seventy two hours a week, all hoping to
be the extra Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates sort of,
you know, get in early, figure out this AI thing,
cash out, get out, and then you know, just become
an influence influencer in your later years. I suppose we're

(35:13):
getting nine big money out there and that.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Doesn't want the same. Great reporting, Rory.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
We'll talk again tomorrow, Hey, gang, one chance to live
this Tuesday, October twenty first, twenty twenty five. That'll never
happen again. Go make a difference in someone's life and
cherish your own. Can't wait to see you tomorrow morning.
Here on your morning show.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael ndel Joo
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