Did the founders create a Christian nation? No, but religion did shape their thinking. Not interested in a theocracy, yes, but they were equally uninterested in a secular, godless equation. We visit with Senior Contributor David Zanotti on God’s place in our formation and 250 year celebration!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This is your morning show with Michael O'Dell Chorman.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Well, we got good news and bad news.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
In the strait of horm moves. We took out six
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At the same time, some ships are moving through, so
securing the strain of mus not yet achieved, but we're
heading in that direction. We also found out what Rudy
Giuliani is suffering from, and it's pneumonia. He is in
(00:56):
critical but stable condition in a Florida hospital. And Secret
Service is investigating a shooting involving one of its officers
not far from the White House.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was near the Washington Monument in the Mall area, and.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
The Knicks and the Wolves secured Game one of the
Conference Semifinal round of the NBA Playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We'll have more of your top.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Stories and your Sounds of the day and sports straight ahead,
but first David's and not your senior contributors joining us
yesterday in full confession. We were in the golf cart
struggling to find something fun we could do today, and
this is the most fun we could come up with.
And that is the pivot of the Associated Press. Now
we all remember when Gates came out earlier? Was that
(01:38):
this year or late last year? Bill Gates?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Last year?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, October of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
All of a sudden, Bill Gates, mister global Warming himself
comes out with we're moving on, and that's just it,
and let me tell you with it, the apparatus has
moved on. In fact, even Al Gore is testing now
going back into global ice age. So remember everything that
was played on you with global warming, Now it's just
like oops, move on dot org. Well, now is the
(02:06):
Associated Press doing the same thing with our founding fathers
being deists after spending how many generations and doctrinating our
kids in school now suddenly we're going to discuss the
Christianity of our founding fathers. Now, the deeper conversation is,
did the founders create a Christian nation? No, but religion
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did shape their thinking as they created a republic. And
they certainly, while they weren't interested in a theocracy, they
were equally uninterested in this secular godless anti God equation
that has been created in modern culture. So it begs
us to visit God's place in our formation as a republic,
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as well as the two hundred and fiftieth celebration coming.
But the pivot of the AP I guess that's the
closest we can come to a fun conversation today.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well, it's fun because it's humorous in the sense of fraudulence,
and it once again shows that you can't trust what's
happening in American education, and in many cases, you can't
trust what's happening in America's pulpits, and you certainly can't
trust anything that's happening in American media. I tell people
(03:20):
to test our programming across the Public Square Radio Network.
Don't take our word for it, look for it yourself.
But the funny thing about this and It's funny in
the sense of irony is that the Associated Press releases
this article written by historian, excuse me, by one of
their political she's one of the writers on history, who's
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a legitimate writer, used to write for the Pittsburgh Post
or Tribune and the Pittsburgh is at as incredible writer.
But he's quoting historians here who are not at all
substantively noted. And it's okay, he got somebody he could get.
But the funniest thing about the whole thing is that
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they're trying to answer the question what did the founders
do when they started it? And they never quote the founders.
I think the irony of that is hauntingly funny.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, we go back to media bias, something I used
to talk about for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't need to anymore. Journalism's dead and everybody knows
everyone's bias. But how do you carry out bias? Stories
you cover, stories, you ignore people, you talk to people,
you don't the quote you use, the quote you don't.
I mean, you love documentaries as much as I do.
I think it represents probably more of our viewing than
pure comedy, drama or other forms of entertainment. And some
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of the worst bias are these.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Historic documentaries, especially if it involves religion. In fact, anytime
there's discussion of Christ, you don't see an image of Christ,
a favorable image. You see some like crazy cave sketch drawing.
You know, they always try to make religion look scary
or crazy or mythological or wacky. And then what you
(05:05):
see is what I see, this constant rewriting of history.
Nobody's even open to accurately looking at it. But you're right,
there's the sin of commission and the sin of omission
because these documents all exist. In fact, many of them
are at your your center in Ohio to read for yourself.
But it's amazing whatever, But imagine doing something on the
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Founding Fathers. You don't have a single quote from the
Founding Fathers, so it might it might leave a few clues.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Right, it's Michael, It's it's it's just plain colors. You
cannot take this seriously. You have to laugh, because otherwise
what else are you left with. It's it's sort of
like Bill Gates spending billions of dollars torturing the planets,
torturing humanity in the name of the agenda of global
climate change and then writing a memo to the United
(05:54):
Nations saying never mind and just getting up and walking away.
That actually happened. You know, it wasn't almost not covered
at all. It was in and of itself. It was
a moment of absolute revolution and virtually no coverage. Because
when the left is wrong, they just get up and
walk away.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
When they reach the point of critical.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Master where they realize they can't peddle the line any longer,
they just fade away.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Has anybody followed up with Bill Gates and said, but
what about the rising seas?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What about the rising temperatures?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What about co two?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Right, Because of course no one ever challenges Bill Gates
because they want his money. Yeah, so get this, here's
here's and this sounds just like global climate change. Listen
to this comment from the Americans United for Separation of
Church and State.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Of course, we've been battling those folks for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Barry's not still in charge of that, Barry Lynne is
he He's.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Still round all right? Here's the quote.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Most nearly all serious historians agree that America was not
founded as a Christian nation in any meaningful legal.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Philosophical or constitutional sense.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Okay, that is, you cannot stamp a barnyard excerment on
that statement any more times.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I would break my wrist with a stamp if I
had one on that. Okay, it's totally absurd.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And they say it the same way they used to say,
all the scientists agree that global climate change is inevitable
and the world was coming to an end. All the
science is in. It's a subtle issue. Well, here we
go with the same kind of nonsensical rhetoric from non
thinking people who can't be taken seriously. And so then
(07:40):
you get a little bit farther than the article.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
We've been teaching this K through twelve for almost one
hundred years. This has been a part of the agenda
in America since Woodrow Wilson. But in spite of that fact,
this very article says six and ten people still believe
America was designed to be a Christian nation. After all
the propaganda they still have, they can't win. So here's
here's the thing. But contrary to popular belief, most founders.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Were not deists.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
This is the article popular to popular Country, our country.
Popularly most believers.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The popular belief that they sold for generations.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And most founders were not This it's just it's it's
it is absolutely tortured to the point you can only
laugh out loud. Oh and by the way, they weren't deists.
So why should anybody give a hoot and holler about that,
because that was the premise of all the historical underwriting
that basically was attempt to eliminate the morality that comes
(08:39):
from a biblical worldview that is pivotal to the governance
of a nation, like personal responsibility, like the right of
private property, like thou shalt not steal, like thou shalt
not bear false witness against our neighbor. If the Founders
weren't deists, and in other words, they didn't have a God
who wound up the universe, walked away and didn't care.
The idea was their whole sales pitches. God doesn't really care,
(09:00):
He doesn't really care. That's what the founders believed.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That's not hardly at all what they believe. Now they
finally have to admit it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, that's a good news. Let's address the truth. So
our founding fathers were deeply people of faith, some more
than others, but all grounded in Christianity. They weren't interested
in a theocracy, that's for sure, But they weren't interested
in a godless equation either, right.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I mean, the last thing you'd want to do is
replace a monarchy with a theocracy. They weren't stupid, they
understood what was really going on. But the fact of
the matter is, our good friend, doctor William B. Allen
made a statement in Nashville, Tennessee, at the conference a
couple of years ago that kind of rock the world.
He said, America would be a Christian nation if there
was never a Christian whoever lived here. And basically I
(09:47):
watched fifteen hundred people in an auditor jaw dropping goes
stone cold, silent.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
What he said? What I gotten? If you look, Oh,
go ahead, go ahead, He explained.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
If you look at how this country was put together,
the more premise and the equation of the construction of
this government, you realize that it was built for a
people who had conscience and moral agency, and who would
have the capacity to self govern themselves under the rule
of law that requires people of moral agency and of
(10:18):
a redemptive spirit. It was created and designed for a
people who would act out right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The president, you have spent a lot of time studying
of late had one of my favorite quotes ever any
president has ever said. John Quincy Adams said, this republic
is altogether wrong for an immoral people, meaning the very
vehicle that presumed that you would be capable of self
governance and moral governance gave you something that you could
(10:47):
control and ride. And if you're immoral, right right off
a cliff, which is I swear what I think we've
been trying to do for the last few decades.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Write it right off.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Of the cliff the last hundred years sure designed, I mean,
that's what Woodrow Wilson wanted.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
He wanted to stop right there.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
We've done this in podcast form, We've never done it
on your morning show. You're the only person I know
that has nailed this origin to Woodrow Wilson. And when
you did, I was like, whoa this is He is
the one bookend and the other is Barack Obama. And
I think people need to understand that. Explain.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Wilson is the benchmark. And I didn't invent that, nor
did I discover it. That's been around for a good
amount of time, but hidden mostly and genuinely conservative teaching
graduate schools, and I learned that from Professor Pristigo and
Professor Alito when I wasn't doing graduate work, in a
book called the Modern Progressives. So the idea was that
(11:45):
Woodrow Wilson basically came into power as the President of
the United States with a philosophical agenda change. He wanted
to move the United States of America from a position
of a biblical worldview where they're recognized God is the
creator of the world, and recognize them in the Declaration
of Independence, and moved America to an evolutionary model because
(12:07):
the old stuff just needed to change because modern science
had displaced it. Wilson was a firm believer in progress,
thus being a progressive. He thought everything had to change
because we don't believe that stuff anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And that was the whole idea.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
They've been at this for over one hundred years, and
they had to change the founding to be able to
justify keeping the Declaration on the wall. Now they've been had,
they've been found out. All of us little nitpicky historians
out here, like William B.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Allen and David McCullough and all.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
The people in Hillsdale and Grove City and all these
colleges have basically come up with enough original source research
that they've blown these people off the mark. They're embarrassed,
they have no defense any longer, so they're just going
to pull a Bill Gates never mind, you never mind?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
When we come back, quick look at the Southern Poverty
Law Center. This scandal has just taken a wicked turn,
and now it's all just kind of coming together and
painting a very clear picture of how far left. I mean,
you talk about progressivism beginning with Wilson, it was supposed
to end with Obama, but now the movement in our
culture has gone so far left of that. And of
(13:11):
course it all changed when Hillary didn't win and Obama
didn't move to the world stage. But yeah, this Southern
Poverty Laws Center link to a corrupt FBI is taking
out a much clearer picture. We'll have that when we
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Speaker 2 (15:24):
This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
David Zanadi, our senior contributor, is joining us. Juliani is
suffering from pneumonia in Afflorida hospital. We got that detail. Indiana,
Ohio headed to primary races today and we had another
Secret Service altercation, this time investigating a shooting involving one
officer not far from the White House at the Washington Monument.
I guess if we use the Gates model, they'll just
(15:52):
move on, kind of like they did in the Associated
Press with our founders being das what do you make
of the Southern Poverty Law Center? And this now points
directly to them feeding the targets and the information for
a corrupt FBI to attack and just one other pieces
already bigger than already bigger than Watergate.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Go ahead, Well, I remember you and I talking during
the Biden administration with a couple of speeches that he
made that were so hate filled and where he was
basically judging the soul of the nation and anyone who
didn't disagree with Joe Biden was basically an enemy of
the state. And it began to feel like there was
a mobilization of particularly in the irony of this because
(16:34):
he was a Catholic. The irony of this is that
so much of the activity of the Justice Department became
focused on Christians and Catholic Christians as well, and there
was a there was legitimate targeting and persecution, guns, out
raids in the morning in people's homes, and we're saying
what was this all about. Now we find out that
(16:56):
the Southern Poverty Law Center had a direct mainline. They
were tapped straight in to the Justice Department of the FBI,
and that the FBI was taking their threat analysis from
the Southern Poverty Law Center. Now, the Southern Poverty Law
Center has been a massively profitable organization operating in the
nonprofit world.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
They should be titled hate Incorporated. They have made a bit.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I mean, they've got retained earnings of over eight hundred
million dollars. They have bank accounts and overseas accounts there
are unbelievable and they're basically the ones who set up
the scoreboard on who the government's supposed to hate.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
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Speaker 3 (17:50):
Hi, I'm Michael.
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Speaker 4 (18:13):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I recognize I'm not playing with a full deck.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'd like to apologize to our senior contributor David Snati,
to my content producer Red and my show producer Jeffrey.
I realize I can't stop doing Chuck Heston and the
Airport seventy five.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
They can still away for just a little while.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I drove David crazy the entire day on the golf
course doing it, and then I come home to my
wife and she's doing it. Nancy, We're both walking around
doing Charlton Heston. We've been doing it for two days
and I can't stop. It's like if you cross your
eyes and you know, well they stick.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's stuck.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
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Speaker 3 (18:47):
Nancy, Nanci.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Hit the microphone, baby, I gotta be able to communicate
with you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Look for the ultimatey Nanci. I just can't stop.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
President Trump says the US has taken out seven small
Iranian ships. That means military activity in the Strait. That
doesn't put a lot of people's mind at ease. We
got a long way to go to making the straight
safe for oil, and who should help protect that straight?
Presidents looking for Europe not getting much help. He might
be looking at the United Arab Emirates and he might
get some help soon. Former New York City Mayor Rudy
(19:18):
Giuliani remains hospitalized. He's battling pneumonia and he is in
stable condition. And voters in Indiana and Ohio. I know
somebody from Ohio. Oh primaries in Ohio, David, who is
the big race there?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
These the primaries in Ohio are actually not very substantive.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Most all of the decisions have already been made.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
They have governor's race, they have a senator's race, but
it's pretty much all established.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Hosvik pacing there. The Vek Ramaswami, you know, not a
long shot, but not a done deal by any stretch.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, the attitude here is based on prior elections, and
that's always a dangerous place to put yourself. You know,
the results in the past are not necessarily predictive of.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
What's going to happen today.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
So the idea is, well, Ohio's going for Trump three times,
so they're going to go for Vivek because of the
Vek's the Trump guy.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, we'll see, and he's against Brown there, No, no,
that's the Senate that's center against.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yes, he'll he'll be against the former Department of the
director of the Department of Health, Amy Atkin, who brought
you COVID in Ohio. And uh yeah, so that that
that should be a fascinating, almost comic book kind of contest.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And the next in Wolves secure game one in round two.
These are now conference semi finals in the NBA playoffs. Hey,
guess what time it is, folks, She's going to get smoked.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
He's got to stop.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he said.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's got to be a big bit of understanding.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm going we'll be tight.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
How do you like?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
My God?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Always really often entertaining time for the sounds of the day,
we start with Tucker Carlson. I played this earlier, so
for those of who that were listening to Platinum Ore,
forgive me, but there is no bigger sound not going
around the internet than this. I always start this by saying,
this is bigger than just a Tucker Carlson story or
I wouldn't be doing it. This is bigger than a
(21:20):
discrediting Tucker Carlson or does he just simply discredit himself story?
Or I wouldn't be doing it. I mean, anybody can
arrive at the comfort of an opinion. To quote John F. Kennedy,
I want to move on to the discomfort of thought.
How does this happen? Is this somebody that can't keep
up with his lies? Is it somebody talking about subjects
(21:43):
he doesn't quite understand? In fact, he often says that
he'll make an extraordinary claim and that say, but I'm
just learning about this.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't know what an Antichrist is. I just think Trump?
Is he any Christ?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You know?
Speaker 8 (21:52):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is it about basically this new wild, wild web clickworld
of podcasting?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I gotta be outrageous.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So in the platinumr we talked a great length about
what used to be news cycles and what they've become
compared to the attention span today. Here's the truth for you.
I have eight seconds to get you interested or you
move on. That's the new news cycle. Eight seconds to
get your attention. Proven in research, eight seconds. News cycles
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used to be two to three days on the internet.
The outrage cycle. It's more measured in a day or hours.
I think that's the deep seated culprit here. Is he
talking about things he doesn't understand clearly biblically he is.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Did he lie and get caught and he won't admit it?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Or is he saying things he doesn't believe every day
and therefore he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Remember them now?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Used to be in the old days, if you lost
your credibility, you were gone, you lost your job, no one.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Was interested in you.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But that doesn't seem to be the case today.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There's nothing more fascinating to me than if you could
go interview me four years ago, David, when more we
on the phone talking about after Russia's death, who might
be the wisest choice to replace him? And I remember
at that time it was dead, yeah, and I was thinking,
Tucker Carlson, that was your pick?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
How wrong would I have been? God?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I love my boss wherever she is. But here's the reality.
If you were to ask me about Tucker Carlson four
years ago, you get a much different answer than today. Footer,
ask me about Candice Owen four years ago, you get
a much different answer today. Megan Kelly you get a
much different answer today. My view of Charlie Kirk hasn't
(23:52):
changed at all. Powerful voice on college campuses, way more
important than the average American. I know because I had
kids on college campuses, and not since Josh McDowell have
I seen such an effective way to reach young people
(24:12):
with the gospel message. My view of Charlie Kirk is
as high today as it was when he was alive.
My view of Training Point USA was somewhat vague or
non existent four years ago. Now I think they're crazy.
It's amazing how fast things have changed. But let's put
all of that. If opinion is, oh, Tucker's a kook, noow,
(24:33):
well that's an opinion. But let's have some discomfort of thought.
How does this happen? We start with the clip that
everybody's been watching on the internet. Tucker caught in a lie.
Tucker who clearly suggested Donald Trump could be the Antichrist
and now is saying he never said it. Unfortunately for him,
the New York Times reporter.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Plays the clip, which is you cannot mock other people's
gods and put yourself in their place.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Period.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than
the war with Iran in my opinion, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Ask because you know you've been talking on your show
about whether Trump is the Antichrist.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I have not said that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
On your show the day after Easter, you noted he
did not put his hand on the Bible during his
swearing ceremony.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
He remembers that. I remember saying he didn't put his
hand on the Bible.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
As president.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his
hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside
that book. And then on a recent show you went further, saying,
here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows. I don't
know where that comes from, but I know that those
words never left my lips because I'm not sure I
fully understand what the antichrist is. If there's just one.
(26:03):
I actually tried to understand it. I may have said
summer asking that I'm not weighing on that, because so
the question becomes does he really not remember? Are lies
hard to remember? The truth easy to keep straight? Can
he not keep up with the speed of the outrage
(26:24):
cycle of the wild wild web?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Does he just say things he doesn't really mean and
he doesn't even remember?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Either way? None of these qualify him for your time.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
One of the things we stress in the five o'clock hour,
and I want to get back to here with David Sonati.
On your deathbed, you will not be thinking about money
you spent or didn't spend.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You'll be thinking about time and how you spent it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's the capacity, That's the finite thing we deal with
on this side of eternity.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Time.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We only have so much time, and voices like this
are just not worth our time anymore. That's the one
thing I want you to ask yourself. Does this person
deserve your time? Because if this is a clickbait world
causing this, you're the clicker, and when the clickers disappear,
they'll disappear. We're the solution. The one statement he makes
at the beginning that nobody's made a controversy out of
(27:19):
a deal breaker for him? Is anybody that mocks a
god or takes the place of that god God. In fact,
that's a bigger deal than Iran, as if they're separate things.
Does he realize Iran mocks our God and will kill
us for our God if we don't accept theirs? Does
he not realize we're in a holy war? There's a
(27:40):
reason why they hate the Little Satan Israel and the
Great Satan Christianity in America. I mean, the level of
freaking ignorance here is beyond anything I'm capable of conveying
in one show. But David, we got to go beyond
the comfort of opinion, Oh he's yeah, he's a loser,
or oh yeah he's still great, he's smart, he's right,
(28:01):
and get to the discomfort of thought, how does this happen?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And what is the bigger picture here beyond Tucker Carlson
that we're really dealing with.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Thank you for putting it on a bigger platform, because
it reminds me of an old Hebrew prophet our proverb
that says, where words.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Are many, sin is not absent.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
In other words, the more we talk, the more trouble
we get into, and that might be one part of
what's going on right now. There's just too much volume everywhere.
Secondly is the question of judgment and accountability. When the
Declaration of Independence was written, it wasn't very long, but
at the end of the Declaration of Independence, the framers
and the founders who signed it appealed to the God
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of the universe, the God of the world, supreme God
of the world for the rectitude of their intentions. The
supreme judge of the world is the term they used.
In other words, if we believe we're going to be
judged for our words, then that becomes very different than
just putting them out there to see how much money
we can make from them. Now, I'm not suggesting that's
that prophet is Tucker's pure motive. He's got enough money,
(29:01):
he doesn't have to be that way. But there is
something that's missing here. I mean, for example, I made
a mistake in the last segment. I called my professor Atto,
I called him Alido. Nobody put a bug in my
ear and said you said the wrong name. I just
remembered that bothers me. I have to correct myself when
I'm on the air always, no matter where we are,
because people are judging us based upon our words. None
(29:22):
of us are perfect. We all make mistakes, of course
we do. The question is what do we do about
the mistakes? And there seems to be in the podcast
world accountability is now gone.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What was the accountability? Well, your bosses could get sued,
you could get fired, your lack of credibility could lead
to a lack of credibility of the overall station.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
None of that exists. None of that exists anymore. It's
just light them up, that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
It's just everybody's a birthday, can will They burned for
as long as they can make all the money they can,
and then they're gone.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I was more appolied by the ignorance of his comments
on God's being even worse than the Iran War is
if the Iran War is in't a holy war about gods?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I mean that part made me nauseous.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
The part about the Antichrist, and then very classic new
Tucker always prefaces, I think this person's Antichrist, not that
I know what the any Christ is. I'm just learning
about what the Antichrist is. I don't begin to understand
what the Antichrist is, then why are.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You talking about the Antichrist?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, and that takes me to another a piece of
biblical thought, and that's that there's the idea in the
New Testament that we should be careful about people we
put in positions of moral authority as teachers and elders
and instructors. They shouldn't be too young in their faith,
that it takes a while to learn this stuff and
to learn what's true and what's false. Tucker concedes consistently,
(30:42):
and he brings up Christianity. He's the one who brings
it up, and he talks about being Christian and yet
talks about being on the very early learning stages of that.
He's not the only podcast or that's doing that. Well,
if you're still learning, maybe you need to get more advice.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Translation.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We celebrate his new phone faith, we celebrate the baby
in Christ.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But let's not be so quick to make him pastors,
shall we?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Fresh person?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I think that's fife of the NY This is.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Okay, let's call me king.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Now, do you believe?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
King? I'm such a king. I can't get a bow.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Robe approved forty eight minutes after the hour.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's in critical but
stable condition.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We found out what he's battling in Florida. It's pneumonia.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Giuliani was rushed to have South Florida Hospital on Sunday
with a severe respiratory issue that required a ventilator.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
A spokesman, Ted Goodman says.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
The eighty one year old is now breathing on his
own and is being monitored as a precautionary measure. Goodman
also says Giuliani was diagnosed with restrictive air weit disease
following his exposure to tooksins at Ground Zero after the
nine to eleven terror attacks on America, adding complications to
any respiratory issues.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
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but they are interested in picking up where they left off.
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I'm Jim Roop.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
New Mexico wants Meta and its social media platforms declared
a public nuisance.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Tammy Trihio has more.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
The state also wants the company to pay three point
seven billion dollars while making their products safer for children. Meta,
for its part, is threatening to cut access to its
social media platforms in New Mexico. Meta and New Mexico
are in the second stage of their trial this week.
A jury recently issued a three hundred and seventy five
million dollar reward to the state after finding the company
misled consumers about the safety of its platforms and its
(32:56):
protections for children against creditors. This phase of the trial
is focused on what actions the parent company of Facebook,
Instagram and whats that must take to address those issues.
I'm Tammy Trhio.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Dolly Parton has now canceled her Las Vegas residency. It
was postponed. It was supposed to be last year in
December of twenty twenty five, but rescheduled for September of
this year. In a video, she said that it's going
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adding she'll see everyone somewhere down the line. Santana's former
(33:27):
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You a post on Facebook, his wife wrote that he
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Roy o'neiler, senior correspondent, is here with the latest on
(36:28):
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Speaker 3 (36:33):
Good morning, Rory, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:35):
Good morning, And the Chairman of the Joint Chief said, yes,
Iran has been firing on some ships as they try
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fired missiles that struck US navy vessels, but the US
(36:56):
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six of those small go fast boats, but Iron says
that didn't happen. So the back and forth continues. Expect
an update from Secretary of State Rubio coming this afternoon, who.
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Well, we got good news and bad news.
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In the strait of horm moves. We took out six
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At the same time, some ships are moving through, so
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heading in that direction. We also found out what Rudy
Giuliani is suffering from, and it's pneumonia. He is in
(00:56):
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Service is investigating a shooting involving one of its officers
not far from the White House.
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Stories and your Sounds of the day and sports straight ahead,
but first David's and not your senior contributors joining us
yesterday in full confession. We were in the golf cart
struggling to find something fun we could do today, and
this is the most fun we could come up with.
And that is the pivot of the Associated Press. Now
we all remember when Gates came out earlier? Was that
(01:38):
this year or late last year? Bill Gates?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Last year?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, October of last year.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
All of a sudden, Bill Gates, mister global Warming himself
comes out with we're moving on, and that's just it,
and let me tell you with it, the apparatus has
moved on. In fact, even Al Gore is testing now
going back into global ice age. So remember everything that
was played on you with global warming, Now it's just
like oops, move on dot org. Well, now is the
(02:06):
Associated Press doing the same thing with our founding fathers
being deists after spending how many generations and doctrinating our
kids in school now suddenly we're going to discuss the
Christianity of our founding fathers. Now, the deeper conversation is,
did the founders create a Christian nation? No, but religion
(02:29):
did shape their thinking as they created a republic. And
they certainly, while they weren't interested in a theocracy, they
were equally uninterested in this secular godless anti God equation
that has been created in modern culture. So it begs
us to visit God's place in our formation as a republic,
(02:50):
as well as the two hundred and fiftieth celebration coming.
But the pivot of the AP I guess that's the
closest we can come to a fun conversation today.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well, it's fun because it's humorous in the sense of fraudulence,
and it once again shows that you can't trust what's
happening in American education, and in many cases, you can't
trust what's happening in America's pulpits, and you certainly can't
trust anything that's happening in American media. I tell people
(03:20):
to test our programming across the Public Square Radio Network.
Don't take our word for it, look for it yourself.
But the funny thing about this and It's funny in
the sense of irony is that the Associated Press releases
this article written by historian, excuse me, by one of
their political she's one of the writers on history, who's
(03:40):
a legitimate writer, used to write for the Pittsburgh Post
or Tribune and the Pittsburgh is at as incredible writer.
But he's quoting historians here who are not at all
substantively noted. And it's okay, he got somebody he could get.
But the funniest thing about the whole thing is that
(04:01):
they're trying to answer the question what did the founders
do when they started it? And they never quote the founders.
I think the irony of that is hauntingly funny.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, we go back to media bias, something I used
to talk about for twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't need to anymore. Journalism's dead and everybody knows
everyone's bias. But how do you carry out bias? Stories
you cover, stories, you ignore people, you talk to people,
you don't the quote you use, the quote you don't.
I mean, you love documentaries as much as I do.
I think it represents probably more of our viewing than
pure comedy, drama or other forms of entertainment. And some
(04:37):
of the worst bias are these.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Historic documentaries, especially if it involves religion. In fact, anytime
there's discussion of Christ, you don't see an image of Christ,
a favorable image. You see some like crazy cave sketch drawing.
You know, they always try to make religion look scary
or crazy or mythological or wacky. And then what you
(05:05):
see is what I see, this constant rewriting of history.
Nobody's even open to accurately looking at it. But you're right,
there's the sin of commission and the sin of omission
because these documents all exist. In fact, many of them
are at your your center in Ohio to read for yourself.
But it's amazing whatever, But imagine doing something on the
(05:26):
Founding Fathers. You don't have a single quote from the
Founding Fathers, so it might it might leave a few clues.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Right, it's Michael, It's it's it's just plain colors. You
cannot take this seriously. You have to laugh, because otherwise
what else are you left with. It's it's sort of
like Bill Gates spending billions of dollars torturing the planets,
torturing humanity in the name of the agenda of global
climate change and then writing a memo to the United
(05:54):
Nations saying never mind and just getting up and walking away.
That actually happened. You know, it wasn't almost not covered
at all. It was in and of itself. It was
a moment of absolute revolution and virtually no coverage. Because
when the left is wrong, they just get up and
walk away.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
When they reach the point of critical.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Master where they realize they can't peddle the line any longer,
they just fade away.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Has anybody followed up with Bill Gates and said, but
what about the rising seas?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
What about the rising temperatures?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What about co two?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Right, Because of course no one ever challenges Bill Gates
because they want his money. Yeah, so get this, here's
here's and this sounds just like global climate change. Listen
to this comment from the Americans United for Separation of
Church and State.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Of course, we've been battling those folks for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Barry's not still in charge of that, Barry Lynne is
he He's.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Still round all right? Here's the quote.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Most nearly all serious historians agree that America was not
founded as a Christian nation in any meaningful legal.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Philosophical or constitutional sense.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Okay, that is, you cannot stamp a barnyard excerment on
that statement any more times.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
I would break my wrist with a stamp if I
had one on that. Okay, it's totally absurd.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And they say it the same way they used to say,
all the scientists agree that global climate change is inevitable
and the world was coming to an end. All the
science is in. It's a subtle issue. Well, here we
go with the same kind of nonsensical rhetoric from non
thinking people who can't be taken seriously. And so then
(07:40):
you get a little bit farther than the article.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
We've been teaching this K through twelve for almost one
hundred years. This has been a part of the agenda
in America since Woodrow Wilson. But in spite of that fact,
this very article says six and ten people still believe
America was designed to be a Christian nation. After all
the propaganda they still have, they can't win. So here's
here's the thing. But contrary to popular belief, most founders.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Were not deists.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
This is the article popular to popular Country, our country.
Popularly most believers.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The popular belief that they sold for generations.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
And most founders were not This it's just it's it's
it is absolutely tortured to the point you can only
laugh out loud. Oh and by the way, they weren't deists.
So why should anybody give a hoot and holler about that,
because that was the premise of all the historical underwriting
that basically was attempt to eliminate the morality that comes
(08:39):
from a biblical worldview that is pivotal to the governance
of a nation, like personal responsibility, like the right of
private property, like thou shalt not steal, like thou shalt
not bear false witness against our neighbor. If the Founders
weren't deists, and in other words, they didn't have a God
who wound up the universe, walked away and didn't care.
The idea was their whole sales pitches. God doesn't really care,
(09:00):
He doesn't really care. That's what the founders believed.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
That's not hardly at all what they believe. Now they
finally have to admit it.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Well, that's a good news. Let's address the truth. So
our founding fathers were deeply people of faith, some more
than others, but all grounded in Christianity. They weren't interested
in a theocracy, that's for sure, But they weren't interested
in a godless equation either, right.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I mean, the last thing you'd want to do is
replace a monarchy with a theocracy. They weren't stupid, they
understood what was really going on. But the fact of
the matter is, our good friend, doctor William B. Allen
made a statement in Nashville, Tennessee, at the conference a
couple of years ago that kind of rock the world.
He said, America would be a Christian nation if there
was never a Christian whoever lived here. And basically I
(09:47):
watched fifteen hundred people in an auditor jaw dropping goes
stone cold, silent.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
What he said? What I gotten? If you look, Oh,
go ahead, go ahead, He explained.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
If you look at how this country was put together,
the more premise and the equation of the construction of
this government, you realize that it was built for a
people who had conscience and moral agency, and who would
have the capacity to self govern themselves under the rule
of law that requires people of moral agency and of
(10:18):
a redemptive spirit. It was created and designed for a
people who would act out right.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The president, you have spent a lot of time studying
of late had one of my favorite quotes ever any
president has ever said. John Quincy Adams said, this republic
is altogether wrong for an immoral people, meaning the very
vehicle that presumed that you would be capable of self
governance and moral governance gave you something that you could
(10:47):
control and ride. And if you're immoral, right right off
a cliff, which is I swear what I think we've
been trying to do for the last few decades.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Write it right off.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
Of the cliff the last hundred years sure designed, I mean,
that's what Woodrow Wilson wanted.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
He wanted to stop right there.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
We've done this in podcast form, We've never done it
on your morning show. You're the only person I know
that has nailed this origin to Woodrow Wilson. And when
you did, I was like, whoa this is He is
the one bookend and the other is Barack Obama. And
I think people need to understand that. Explain.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Wilson is the benchmark. And I didn't invent that, nor
did I discover it. That's been around for a good
amount of time, but hidden mostly and genuinely conservative teaching
graduate schools, and I learned that from Professor Pristigo and
Professor Alito when I wasn't doing graduate work, in a
book called the Modern Progressives. So the idea was that
(11:45):
Woodrow Wilson basically came into power as the President of
the United States with a philosophical agenda change. He wanted
to move the United States of America from a position
of a biblical worldview where they're recognized God is the
creator of the world, and recognize them in the Declaration
of Independence, and moved America to an evolutionary model because
(12:07):
the old stuff just needed to change because modern science
had displaced it. Wilson was a firm believer in progress,
thus being a progressive. He thought everything had to change
because we don't believe that stuff anymore.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And that was the whole idea.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
They've been at this for over one hundred years, and
they had to change the founding to be able to
justify keeping the Declaration on the wall. Now they've been had,
they've been found out. All of us little nitpicky historians
out here, like William B.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Allen and David McCullough and all.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
The people in Hillsdale and Grove City and all these
colleges have basically come up with enough original source research
that they've blown these people off the mark. They're embarrassed,
they have no defense any longer, so they're just going
to pull a Bill Gates never mind, you never mind?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
All right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
When we come back, quick look at the Southern Poverty
Law Center. This scandal has just taken a wicked turn,
and now it's all just kind of coming together and
painting a very clear picture of how far left. I mean,
you talk about progressivism beginning with Wilson, it was supposed
to end with Obama, but now the movement in our
culture has gone so far left of that. And of
(13:11):
course it all changed when Hillary didn't win and Obama
didn't move to the world stage. But yeah, this Southern
Poverty Laws Center link to a corrupt FBI is taking
out a much clearer picture. We'll have that when we
come back. I used to think of a mattress like
a piece of furniture. And I don't know how often
you change your furniture, but that's how often you change
your mattresses. But then they started becoming ten thousand dollars
(13:32):
to replace a mattress. Well, then a roof would happen,
or an air conditioning system or a new deck. And
so every time you're saving up for a mattress, something
always steps in the way. And then GHOSTBD came along.
I knew the minute I laid on it was different.
Then I started studying. Now, the family itself made mattresses
(13:54):
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This is your morning show with Michael del Chno.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
David Zanadi, our senior contributor, is joining us. Juliani is
suffering from pneumonia in Afflorida hospital. We got that detail. Indiana,
Ohio headed to primary races today and we had another
Secret Service altercation, this time investigating a shooting involving one
officer not far from the White House at the Washington Monument.
I guess if we use the Gates model, they'll just
(15:52):
move on, kind of like they did in the Associated
Press with our founders being das what do you make
of the Southern Poverty Law Center? And this now points
directly to them feeding the targets and the information for
a corrupt FBI to attack and just one other pieces
already bigger than already bigger than Watergate.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Go ahead, Well, I remember you and I talking during
the Biden administration with a couple of speeches that he
made that were so hate filled and where he was
basically judging the soul of the nation and anyone who
didn't disagree with Joe Biden was basically an enemy of
the state. And it began to feel like there was
a mobilization of particularly in the irony of this because
(16:34):
he was a Catholic. The irony of this is that
so much of the activity of the Justice Department became
focused on Christians and Catholic Christians as well, and there
was a there was legitimate targeting and persecution, guns, out
raids in the morning in people's homes, and we're saying
what was this all about. Now we find out that
(16:56):
the Southern Poverty Law Center had a direct mainline. They
were tapped straight in to the Justice Department of the FBI,
and that the FBI was taking their threat analysis from
the Southern Poverty Law Center. Now, the Southern Poverty Law
Center has been a massively profitable organization operating in the
nonprofit world.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
They should be titled hate Incorporated. They have made a bit.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I mean, they've got retained earnings of over eight hundred
million dollars. They have bank accounts and overseas accounts there
are unbelievable and they're basically the ones who set up
the scoreboard on who the government's supposed to hate.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
This is Rebecca in spring Hill, Tennessee, and my morning
show is Your Morning Show with Michael del Jorno.
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Hi, I'm Michael.
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Speaker 4 (18:13):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I recognize I'm not playing with a full deck.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I'd like to apologize to our senior contributor David Snati,
to my content producer Red and my show producer Jeffrey.
I realize I can't stop doing Chuck Heston and the
Airport seventy five.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
They can still away for just a little while.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I drove David crazy the entire day on the golf
course doing it, and then I come home to my
wife and she's doing it. Nancy, We're both walking around
doing Charlton Heston. We've been doing it for two days
and I can't stop. It's like if you cross your
eyes and you know, well they stick.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's stuck.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Nancy, Nanci.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Hit the microphone, baby, I gotta be able to communicate
with you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Look for the ultimatey Nanci. I just can't stop.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
President Trump says the US has taken out seven small
Iranian ships. That means military activity in the Strait. That
doesn't put a lot of people's mind at ease. We
got a long way to go to making the straight
safe for oil, and who should help protect that straight?
Presidents looking for Europe not getting much help. He might
be looking at the United Arab Emirates and he might
get some help soon. Former New York City Mayor Rudy
(19:18):
Giuliani remains hospitalized. He's battling pneumonia and he is in
stable condition. And voters in Indiana and Ohio. I know
somebody from Ohio. Oh primaries in Ohio, David, who is
the big race there?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (19:36):
These the primaries in Ohio are actually not very substantive.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Most all of the decisions have already been made.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
They have governor's race, they have a senator's race, but
it's pretty much all established.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Hosvik pacing there. The Vek Ramaswami, you know, not a
long shot, but not a done deal by any stretch.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, the attitude here is based on prior elections, and
that's always a dangerous place to put yourself. You know,
the results in the past are not necessarily predictive of.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
What's going to happen today.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
So the idea is, well, Ohio's going for Trump three times,
so they're going to go for Vivek because of the
Vek's the Trump guy.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Well, we'll see, and he's against Brown there, No, no,
that's the Senate that's center against.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Yes, he'll he'll be against the former Department of the
director of the Department of Health, Amy Atkin, who brought
you COVID in Ohio. And uh yeah, so that that
that should be a fascinating, almost comic book kind of contest.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And the next in Wolves secure game one in round two.
These are now conference semi finals in the NBA playoffs. Hey,
guess what time it is, folks, She's going to get smoked.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
He's got to stop.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of this, and I don't think he knows what he said.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's got to be a big bit of understanding.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm going we'll be tight.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
How do you like?
Speaker 7 (20:58):
My God?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Always really often entertaining time for the sounds of the day,
we start with Tucker Carlson. I played this earlier, so
for those of who that were listening to Platinum Ore,
forgive me, but there is no bigger sound not going
around the internet than this. I always start this by saying,
this is bigger than just a Tucker Carlson story or
I wouldn't be doing it. This is bigger than a
(21:20):
discrediting Tucker Carlson or does he just simply discredit himself story?
Or I wouldn't be doing it. I mean, anybody can
arrive at the comfort of an opinion. To quote John F. Kennedy,
I want to move on to the discomfort of thought.
How does this happen? Is this somebody that can't keep
up with his lies? Is it somebody talking about subjects
(21:43):
he doesn't quite understand? In fact, he often says that
he'll make an extraordinary claim and that say, but I'm
just learning about this.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I don't know what an Antichrist is. I just think Trump?
Is he any Christ?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
You know?
Speaker 8 (21:52):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is it about basically this new wild, wild web clickworld
of podcasting?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I gotta be outrageous.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
So in the platinumr we talked a great length about
what used to be news cycles and what they've become
compared to the attention span today. Here's the truth for you.
I have eight seconds to get you interested or you
move on. That's the new news cycle. Eight seconds to
get your attention. Proven in research, eight seconds. News cycles
(22:30):
used to be two to three days on the internet.
The outrage cycle. It's more measured in a day or hours.
I think that's the deep seated culprit here. Is he
talking about things he doesn't understand clearly biblically he is.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Did he lie and get caught and he won't admit it?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Or is he saying things he doesn't believe every day
and therefore he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Remember them now?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Used to be in the old days, if you lost
your credibility, you were gone, you lost your job, no one.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Was interested in you.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But that doesn't seem to be the case today.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There's nothing more fascinating to me than if you could
go interview me four years ago, David, when more we
on the phone talking about after Russia's death, who might
be the wisest choice to replace him? And I remember
at that time it was dead, yeah, and I was thinking,
Tucker Carlson, that was your pick?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
How wrong would I have been? God?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I love my boss wherever she is. But here's the reality.
If you were to ask me about Tucker Carlson four
years ago, you get a much different answer than today. Footer,
ask me about Candice Owen four years ago, you get
a much different answer today. Megan Kelly you get a
much different answer today. My view of Charlie Kirk hasn't
(23:52):
changed at all. Powerful voice on college campuses, way more
important than the average American. I know because I had
kids on college campuses, and not since Josh McDowell have
I seen such an effective way to reach young people
(24:12):
with the gospel message. My view of Charlie Kirk is
as high today as it was when he was alive.
My view of Training Point USA was somewhat vague or
non existent four years ago. Now I think they're crazy.
It's amazing how fast things have changed. But let's put
all of that. If opinion is, oh, Tucker's a kook, noow,
(24:33):
well that's an opinion. But let's have some discomfort of thought.
How does this happen? We start with the clip that
everybody's been watching on the internet. Tucker caught in a lie.
Tucker who clearly suggested Donald Trump could be the Antichrist
and now is saying he never said it. Unfortunately for him,
the New York Times reporter.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Plays the clip, which is you cannot mock other people's
gods and put yourself in their place.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Period.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than
the war with Iran in my opinion, Yeah, I.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Ask because you know you've been talking on your show
about whether Trump is the Antichrist.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I have not said that.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
On your show the day after Easter, you noted he
did not put his hand on the Bible during his
swearing ceremony.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
He remembers that. I remember saying he didn't put his
hand on the Bible.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
As president.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his
hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside
that book. And then on a recent show you went further, saying,
here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
Could this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows. I don't
know where that comes from, but I know that those
words never left my lips because I'm not sure I
fully understand what the antichrist is. If there's just one.
(26:03):
I actually tried to understand it. I may have said
summer asking that I'm not weighing on that, because so
the question becomes does he really not remember? Are lies
hard to remember? The truth easy to keep straight? Can
he not keep up with the speed of the outrage
(26:24):
cycle of the wild wild web?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Does he just say things he doesn't really mean and
he doesn't even remember?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Either way? None of these qualify him for your time.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
One of the things we stress in the five o'clock hour,
and I want to get back to here with David Sonati.
On your deathbed, you will not be thinking about money
you spent or didn't spend.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You'll be thinking about time and how you spent it.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
That's the capacity, That's the finite thing we deal with
on this side of eternity.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Time.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
We only have so much time, and voices like this
are just not worth our time anymore. That's the one
thing I want you to ask yourself. Does this person
deserve your time? Because if this is a clickbait world
causing this, you're the clicker, and when the clickers disappear,
they'll disappear. We're the solution. The one statement he makes
at the beginning that nobody's made a controversy out of
(27:19):
a deal breaker for him? Is anybody that mocks a
god or takes the place of that god God. In fact,
that's a bigger deal than Iran, as if they're separate things.
Does he realize Iran mocks our God and will kill
us for our God if we don't accept theirs? Does
he not realize we're in a holy war? There's a
(27:40):
reason why they hate the Little Satan Israel and the
Great Satan Christianity in America. I mean, the level of
freaking ignorance here is beyond anything I'm capable of conveying
in one show. But David, we got to go beyond
the comfort of opinion, Oh he's yeah, he's a loser,
or oh yeah he's still great, he's smart, he's right,
(28:01):
and get to the discomfort of thought, how does this happen?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And what is the bigger picture here beyond Tucker Carlson
that we're really dealing with.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
Thank you for putting it on a bigger platform, because
it reminds me of an old Hebrew prophet our proverb
that says, where words.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Are many, sin is not absent.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
In other words, the more we talk, the more trouble
we get into, and that might be one part of
what's going on right now. There's just too much volume everywhere.
Secondly is the question of judgment and accountability. When the
Declaration of Independence was written, it wasn't very long, but
at the end of the Declaration of Independence, the framers
and the founders who signed it appealed to the God
(28:39):
of the universe, the God of the world, supreme God
of the world for the rectitude of their intentions. The
supreme judge of the world is the term they used.
In other words, if we believe we're going to be
judged for our words, then that becomes very different than
just putting them out there to see how much money
we can make from them. Now, I'm not suggesting that's
that prophet is Tucker's pure motive. He's got enough money,
(29:01):
he doesn't have to be that way. But there is
something that's missing here. I mean, for example, I made
a mistake in the last segment. I called my professor Atto,
I called him Alido. Nobody put a bug in my
ear and said you said the wrong name. I just
remembered that bothers me. I have to correct myself when
I'm on the air always, no matter where we are,
because people are judging us based upon our words. None
(29:22):
of us are perfect. We all make mistakes, of course
we do. The question is what do we do about
the mistakes? And there seems to be in the podcast
world accountability is now gone.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
What was the accountability? Well, your bosses could get sued,
you could get fired, your lack of credibility could lead
to a lack of credibility of the overall station.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
None of that exists. None of that exists anymore. It's
just light them up, that's it.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
It's just everybody's a birthday, can will They burned for
as long as they can make all the money they can,
and then they're gone.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I was more appolied by the ignorance of his comments
on God's being even worse than the Iran War is
if the Iran War is in't a holy war about gods?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I mean that part made me nauseous.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
The part about the Antichrist, and then very classic new
Tucker always prefaces, I think this person's Antichrist, not that
I know what the any Christ is. I'm just learning
about what the Antichrist is. I don't begin to understand
what the Antichrist is, then why are.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You talking about the Antichrist?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, and that takes me to another a piece of
biblical thought, and that's that there's the idea in the
New Testament that we should be careful about people we
put in positions of moral authority as teachers and elders
and instructors. They shouldn't be too young in their faith,
that it takes a while to learn this stuff and
to learn what's true and what's false. Tucker concedes consistently,
(30:42):
and he brings up Christianity. He's the one who brings
it up, and he talks about being Christian and yet
talks about being on the very early learning stages of that.
He's not the only podcast or that's doing that. Well,
if you're still learning, maybe you need to get more advice.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Translation.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We celebrate his new phone faith, we celebrate the baby
in Christ.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But let's not be so quick to make him pastors,
shall we?
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Fresh person?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I think that's fife of the NY This is.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Okay, let's call me king.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Now, do you believe?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
King? I'm such a king. I can't get a bow.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Robe approved forty eight minutes after the hour.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's in critical but
stable condition.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We found out what he's battling in Florida. It's pneumonia.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Giuliani was rushed to have South Florida Hospital on Sunday
with a severe respiratory issue that required a ventilator.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
A spokesman, Ted Goodman says.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
The eighty one year old is now breathing on his
own and is being monitored as a precautionary measure. Goodman
also says Giuliani was diagnosed with restrictive air weit disease
following his exposure to tooksins at Ground Zero after the
nine to eleven terror attacks on America, adding complications to
any respiratory issues.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
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(32:23):
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I'm Jim Roop.
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New Mexico wants Meta and its social media platforms declared
a public nuisance.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Tammy Trihio has more.
Speaker 10 (32:33):
The state also wants the company to pay three point
seven billion dollars while making their products safer for children. Meta,
for its part, is threatening to cut access to its
social media platforms in New Mexico. Meta and New Mexico
are in the second stage of their trial this week.
A jury recently issued a three hundred and seventy five
million dollar reward to the state after finding the company
misled consumers about the safety of its platforms and its
(32:56):
protections for children against creditors. This phase of the trial
is focused on what actions the parent company of Facebook,
Instagram and whats that must take to address those issues.
I'm Tammy Trhio.
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Dolly Parton has now canceled her Las Vegas residency. It
was postponed. It was supposed to be last year in
December of twenty twenty five, but rescheduled for September of
this year. In a video, she said that it's going
to be some time more before she is stage performance ready,
adding she'll see everyone somewhere down the line. Santana's former
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You a post on Facebook, his wife wrote that he
passed away peacefully in his sleep, with his dog O
Bobo by his side. Prior to his death, Legardwood had
struggled with health issues. The musician was the lead vocalist
of Santana on and off between nineteen seventy nine and
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President Trump says the US has taken out seven small
Iranian ships in the Strait of Horror moves. Secret Service
investigating a shooting involving one of its officers not far
from the White House. Mary Giuliani is recovering from pneumonia
in a Florida hospital, and as some traffic starts to
move through the strait, we also have some military activity.
Roy o'neiler, senior correspondent, is here with the latest on
(36:28):
the Strait of Hormuz and what it means for ultimate
certainty of energy supply.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Good morning, Rory, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (36:35):
Good morning, And the Chairman of the Joint Chief said, yes,
Iran has been firing on some ships as they try
to get through the Strait of Horn Moves, but he
doesn't think it's enough to justify what he would call
an end to the cease fire. But there's been a
lana back and forth. Iran claiming emphasis there that it
fired missiles that struck US navy vessels, but the US
(36:56):
said that didn't happen the US as it took out
six of those small go fast boats, but Iron says
that didn't happen. So the back and forth continues. Expect
an update from Secretary of State Rubio coming this afternoon, who.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Was also headed to the Vatican to deal with the
pope issues with President and Trump, as well as filling
in as White House.
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