April 29, 2025 • 51 mins
Irene Michaels is an Award-Winning Singer, Songwriter and Musician. “I Like Rain" earned her “Best Song of the Year” at the Josie Music Awards in 2023. She won Indie Artist of the Year for “My Heart” for BroadwayWorld.
John Michael Ferrari - Recording artist, singer songwriter John is a storyteller who transforms life experiences into emotional songs. Ferrari clinched the title of "Best Male Album of the Year - Silver" at the International Singer Songwriter Association Awards.
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John Michael Ferrari - Recording artist, singer songwriter John is a storyteller who transforms life experiences into emotional songs. Ferrari clinched the title of "Best Male Album of the Year - Silver" at the International Singer Songwriter Association Awards.
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hey, there is Brian Sebastian movie reviews and more. And
if it's Tuesday, that means we're always live. This is
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Let me repeat that, one hundred and fifty live shows
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five and get the two hundred live shows that are
But the thinking about that why it makes it important
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because I knew it was gonna hit on this show.
I knew Ireen was gonna be on it, and I
had an idea that John was gonna be on it,
even though he didn't do but I did know, and
I wanted to make it about singers. So obviously this
is important because they're both award winners, which is even
more important, so streaming live and talk for TV Talk
four Media, K for HD radio and streaming on over
(01:50):
one hundred outlets around the world right now, and obviously
women on TV dot, TV I Tube two for seven
out of Franklin, Tennessee. And I'm really happy about it
because I wanted to do something about music because who
does not listen to music? Howard loves the dance the music,
so doesn't Terry, you know, when I'm at Rachel Sounds, Aroun,
Johnny Fallstaff and sucking the blood us always about that
(02:11):
that country time, that new type of music you know
from Chicago house music, right, I mean, and that's all
about things like that. So the move Award winners they
both want, you know, I I like their music. The
problem is we can't play music anymore on podcasts because
we get dinged and that sucks. So you know, when
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you've got the song of the Year and you're you know,
best Country music of the year, and you know you
you know, Irene, I'm just amazed and all the stuff
that you've done. I had those off to you. Whether
it's in the equestrian world, I'm going off the top
of my head because it's been a while since I've
seen everything. I come from the world of dressage, so
I know all about that world.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Our Dutch Dutch warm Blood Lagio was award winning horse
for us. When it comes to these things. I love
your all the things that you've done, and I thought
it was important to have you on because Eileen said so,
Jimmy Starr said so, but I said, of course we
would love to have her on because when you've done
all those things, you know, you had that best song
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of the year, you know, if you wanted the Josie Awards,
which Howard knows of in Tennessee. Those aren't small feats.
Those are great, you know. And John has done the
same thing. He's one of the Josie Awards. He's one
of the Western Country Music Awards in on West Coast,
which is even more important. I'm going to have you
both talk about your songs. But first I got introduced everybody,
(03:32):
because there's weird weather going around. Canada's having tornadoes. You
can imagine that in Toronto, my friends in Portugal and
in South America they're having outages. You know, you saw
what we did. We started ten minutes ly. We always
start on time. So you just never know. Just check
your sound because we don't know, Howard. We never know
if Howard's gonna have you Internet or anything like that.
(03:53):
Howard telling me you are ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I'm Howard Wiggins.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'm one of the world's top thirty five interior designors.
I'm son of a little Mary Wiggins, played still guitar
with Eddie Arnold, do acting and movies and voiceovers and
dancing and modeling, and I'm almost seventy two and i
just lived my life the best second.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And Rachel roberts So, Rachel, you know, we again, we've
all been through these things. We never know about our technology,
but we make it work some kind of way, don't we.
Just there? What about who you are, what you've been doing.
You've been doing a lot of content lately.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Yes, I've been shooting. Okay, So I have a little
morning show. My name is Rachel Robertson. I have a
little morning show called Coffee traw and I just get
on and talk about bullshit every day and it's on
social media platforms. I also am an actress. I'm going
to be a movie at the end of the month,
so I'm excited about that. I do modeling as well,
(04:50):
and product promotions and commercials and all sorts of fun stuff.
And I've been with Brian for years, and you know,
all of us have very loyal to Brian.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
So thank you Brian for having me on media reviews
some more.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's a lot of fun. You're most welcome. We couldn't
have got without you. So all right, so let's talk
about you really quickly before we get into everybody for charity.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
I've been with Brian since twenty fourteen, so it's been
quite a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I do red.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Carpet hostings for movie reviews and more, which I love
to do.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'm fitness competitor.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I've been competed in a while, but I'm still a
fitness junkie. I'd like to motivate women over forty and
fifty to stay fit and healthy.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I've been acting. I've been an actress all my.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Life since as a little kid. Truth, so it's done
several projects. I'm here in Los Angeles, California. I also
travel a little bit of art. They called me non
stop for a reason. I also work in the corporate
world in orthopedics with doctors and fitness our and athletic trainers.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So have that going on too. So I'm this busy person.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Say that cool, so Irene. When you're that singer, songwriter,
that musician, obviously those are great things. And when the
LGBT community really loves you for what you're doing and
you're at that, you know, you go to the get
Out Awards, which is really really important. And I like Laane,
very interesting song, very cool song. Howard is our dancer here.
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I just love listening to music, and now I listen
to the lyrics because the lyrics do a lot for me.
And when you've had that best Song of the Year
in twenty twenty three, the Josie Music Awards, like I
was talking about. And you've also brand in Broadway world
you know, and also perform in Times Squares for the
body of Antiversity of International Peace Day. I believe in
world peace. I'm a Buddhist, so it took me sixteen
(06:46):
years to believe in that. That's important to me. My
hat goes off to you, Irene Michaels. And with John
you know, also that recording artist, that singer songwriter. He's
not storyteller too, but when it comes to you know,
having the best male album of the Year, splash into
National Singer Songwriters Association. Those things are no small keeps.
When it comes to that, I keep dreaming, I love
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that song. I never knew I was gonna love country music,
and all of a sudden, eight years ago, I started
going down to Tennessee and I started falling in love
with country music. Now, when you guys have grown up
in different eras, I think Howard would know a lot
about this, and maybe a little bit of Rachel and Terry.
All these songs become classics. You know, there was not
a lot of icons left in the world. There is
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no Michael Jackson, there is no Tom Petty. You know,
we're lucky to have, you know, Willie Nelson still with us.
We just lost Sergie Mendez. You know, I think of
all these great icons, some of them will talk about tonight.
I mean, when it comes to your history, why don't
you know you wanted to be a singer, because you've
got a vast background. Talk about before you started singing,
(07:51):
because I don't think enough people know what you did before.
Speaker 9 (07:54):
Well, I've been singing for a very long time, and
I've sucked it.
Speaker 10 (08:00):
I started it, thanks stopped it. I started it.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
So I started singing probably over thirty five forty years ago, believe.
Speaker 11 (08:08):
It or not.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
And I've always loved music. I've always been in show
business of sorts. I started out as a dancer. I
was on Broadway in Broadway shows for several years. I
was Chorus Lang, which was my biggest show. And then
from dancing, I went into acting, and then I went
(08:29):
into modeling, and then I went into singing again.
Speaker 12 (08:33):
So days of the business. I just loved the business.
There's no business like show business, absolutely, And then Washington
say there's no business without the show.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's right, because you know, John, you understand this. Without
the business, there is no show. Right. Talk about how
you started, John, because you've got that. You've got, You've
gobbled in a couple of different worlds. But I loved
your history of how how you started. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, everything I do is my main thing is music.
Everything else is a hobby. Other than that.
Speaker 13 (09:08):
I just knew at a young age this is what
I wanted to do. And I started dabbling a little bit,
and then as time progressed, I got.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Better and better. I learned the craft.
Speaker 13 (09:19):
There's a craft in songwriting and performing and if you
learn the craft, you know how to excel after a while.
And of course having a producer like I have Pepper Jay.
I mean early this morning, I was watching her and
she's on the computer conversing with people all over the world,
and I'm just sitting there drinking coffee. I'm thinking I
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couldn't do this. I mean, I do what I do.
I sing and I write songs, but she does all
the heavy lifting when it comes to the business, and
without her, I wouldn't have a career. I think everyone
to have the fortunate of have a producer manager like that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm always talking about, you know, if you don't have
that good publicist, and a lot of them tend to
be women, which is great. I was watching a documentary
today on libraries, how High Library started again. If it
weren't for women, we wouldn't really have the libraries of today.
So I keep going back and finding a lot of
these things, and again, movie reviews and more honors women.
(10:19):
This is more than the I mean, Howard's the only
male Coast co Goos we've ever had, and guests who
found him, a woman shot Rachel Robbers found him, so
I didn't fine him Rachel did. It was one of
those things where again, if it weren't for you women,
we wouldn't be where we are. And so when you
have that, you know, Irene, I'm thinking of that song.
I like, Wayne, why do I like that song? Talk
(10:40):
about that? And were you happy when it won? You know,
the award the Josie Awards in twenty twenty three. Isn't
it not easy?
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Yeah, it's a funny story.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
I was actually at the Joseie Awards when they were
doing the awards, of course, and I really didn't expect
to win.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
So I was sitting in the.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Audience being very naughty, and I was looking at my
text messages and all of a sudden, I heard my name.
I read Michael's you know best song Drive? Did they
just say my name? So I was shocked, and so
I threw my phone on the floor and I got
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up and I walked it up to the stage and
I accepted my award and I was very honored. It's
it's a beautiful song. Most people like that song. For
some reason.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
People really relate to that.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
It's warm, it's fuzzy, it's cozy, it's homey, it's real,
it's heartfelt. For all those reasons. I think people like
listening to it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And you know, did you know were you singing when
you were on Broadway as one of the girls.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
Well, I was just dancing at that time, so.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
We were your legs and shirt too? Or what were
your legs insured? Also, I mean you were one of
those dancers.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Yeah, I was pretty leagy.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You still are. Yes, See he's modest talking about, you know,
Chicago house music. I can't remember what her name, but
it's one of the things where another woman when you
have Chicago house music, and then turning around, she is
one of the world's best of that, isn't.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
She Yes, it's probably Tracks Records.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Tracks is a big label. It's a major house label.
A matter of fact. The woman who owns that, her
name is Rachel Caine, and she and I are neighbors
in the same building. And she came to one of
my shows and she said to me, I read I
think you should be doing house music, And I.
Speaker 10 (12:47):
Said, really, it's really my style. I like, can'tbaree prge.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Songs Standards American Songbook says, no, you'd be great at
house is with a pop flare to it.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
I go, okay, I'll try it. I'm all too willing
to try anything.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
And so that's when all the songs like Eyli Grayne was.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Worn and ever since then, I've been on her label.
Speaker 12 (13:14):
Which has been very successful for me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So John, when you have I've never been to this,
but one of the best award shows that I ever
went to, and I encourage people to go to some
of these award shows was the Songwriters Ask at the Hoards.
The best award show I ever went to. The year
I went, Neil Young was he was there for a
Hall of Fame and what was Janet Jackson? Jermaine Duprie
(13:43):
Jenna Jackson's boyfriend at that point, Jermaine dupri And I
thought it was fascinating because they were some of the
happiest people I've ever seen in my life. You didn't
know who they were, Rachel and Terry, but they wrote
some of the most iconic songs as ever. And I go,
why have you guys so happy in here? And I'll
just never forget. I can't remember his name is this guy?
Said Ryan? Nobody knows who the hell I am, but
they all know my songs and I get paid for them.
(14:05):
Listening to my songs and I go, that's it. And
then I'm walking out and I'm looking to the left
of the Schryl Crow to the left of me, and
I forgot who were western right, because I had never
met Cheryl Crow before. As I was leaving, I'm like, oh,
I love this Award Show. If I ever bring someone
to Award Show, that's the one to go through. John
talk about what it's like to be that songwriter, because
you guys a fascinating to me as I'm listening as
(14:27):
an old disc jockey that I was. You know, if
I'm in Rachel's house and I'm listening to something that
I may not know, or if I know Terry is
dantying the eighties music, I now listen to the lyrics
as the disc jockey. For me, it was always about
to beat. But I think because i'm majorityan now I'm
listening to the lyrics, it's really fascinating to me.
Speaker 13 (14:46):
Well, I didn't start off as a country artist, you know.
I used to sing a lot of country songs when
I was playing with bands and rock and roll and
show tunes. We used to do a tribute to the
Oscars where we do all the the top oscar songs
over the years, and I was exposed to all types
of music. But it wasn't until we went to Nashville
(15:08):
and we added a slide guitar to our songs that
I got inducted into the country music genre. And because
most of our songs, they're crossover songs. And we're very
fortunate that that happened. That we have a pop radio.
We've played on pop radio and country songs. But I
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think a lot of it is because we're part of
the Nashville community and we use the Nashville musicians and
there's that flavor of Nashville country music, but also there's
pop music in there. We're very fortunate and we have that.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So Howard, you were talking earlier about, you know, your
Facebook friends with John. I think that's fascinating. I actually
saw John perform and he reminds me of and I'm
going to show a trailer later later. I've already shown
Irate Johnny. You guys probably remember I already showing the
band leader on how he started going up against Benny Goodman.
I just see similarities with different things coming Now as
(16:05):
you get older, you get a chance to go back
and see people's history of things Howard talk about. I mean,
your dad helped start the grandell Opery with Ddie Arnold.
So but you didn't like country music when you're growing up,
where are you now? Because you love to dance, you would.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Love kind of like I'm kind of like Terry.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I'm still in the eighties, but yeah, that's where man
in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So Irene Howard love to dance to a lot of
your music. He is that dancer where he likes to
go out and dance for hours and just women will
start getting up and dancing because a lot of guys
just don't dance, but Howard does. Even I don't dance.
I'm afraid to go up and dance with Howard because
he would put me in a shame. So I just
kind of like watch vicariously. But it's funny. But he
would like your stuff. And the reason why I like
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this and I say this, is because he has those
shorts that we put up that gets thousands and thousands
of hits, something that I put up to I got
another one I'm gonna put up in two days. I
just was waiting for the ray that we didn't get. Dang,
But if he can dance to anything and almost any
song could go to the way he dances. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 10 (17:10):
Okay, we'll have to dance together because I.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Love absolutely absolutely well. Irene. What do you like about
dancing and singing?
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Uh, it's an expression, I think you just I let
myself go when I dance, So I just feel, you know,
everything going on around me, which is alive. And that's
what we want to feel alive. We want to feel something.
And me dancing is that singing makes me happy. It
just makes puts a smile on my face. So the
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combination of those two are very healthy.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Hey, Rachel, I blame you for this one. I think
when I was at your house in Texas, I think
I started listening to lyrics. You know, we were you
had Siri on and we were listening to Johnny Falstaff
and it was the lyrics. It was something about the
lyrics that you like. I'm like, I want to hear
the beat as the old dish Shocking Me was about. Now,
I feel like women because women fell in love with lyrics,
(18:09):
whether it was listening to Frank Sinatra or John bon
Jovi or David you know being you know, David really wrong.
It was really interesting. Now I'm like, what's wrong with me?
I'm actually listening to the lyrics now, going back to
a lot of the classics and enjoying what you songwriters wrote.
I never did that before. It's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Question, Brian, how how many times do you go back?
Because I do that now.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I listened to lyrics more because it always got me.
But how many times have you gone back and maybe
looked on Spotify where the words are actually written down,
and even singing the wrong lyrics for you?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
My kids laugh at me because I'm singing. They're like,
you're singing it wrong. Our day, we had to like
look at the back of a record.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There was no way.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Now you can just pull up the lyrics online so.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
They know all the words. How many times?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Harry?
Speaker 14 (19:00):
Right?
Speaker 15 (19:00):
That is actually funny because I'm like, oh my god,
I didn't seen that song the wrong, the wrong that
For years, I was like.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, well, you know, Johnny, I think about this, U Aerosmith,
dude looks like a lady. I was thinking, do you
I I thought it was do the Funky Lady because
that's what it sounded like to me. I didn't know
until I read it to lady.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I ran into Steve Perry and I'm like, I love
that the lady know what's wrong? You know it's dude,
looks like a lady. I need to know. I know, yeah,
what is? What is writing songs? Writing lyrics were important
to you because I've seen you more. You're just like stylish,
you know. You know I didn't hear you see country songs.
(19:55):
I just heard you singing. You were fashionable. You were
really cool the way you were singing at the at
the Easy Way Oscar event.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Well, you know, I grew up in a time where
you could play in clubs and make a living. And
every club, almost everywhere had entertainment, and you worked six
weeks here in six weeks there. And I actually had
a booking agent and he kept me booked all the time.
But that's how you hone your craft. And one day
(20:24):
I was always playing with a band or behind a guitar.
And then I was playing at a resort outside of
Palm Springs, very much.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Like what you see in Dirty Dancing.
Speaker 13 (20:35):
It was like a resort like that, and they had
a main show room and they had a little lounge.
I played the lounge and one day Pepper came in.
I didn't know Pepper at the time. She said, you
know you're good, but I could make you better, and
she taught me how to perform on stage. Right, Sammy
Davis Junior and all the greats Sinatra, Wayne Newton, you know,
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really had dizazz when they're performing on stage.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
There's certain for this how to move and how to
dance when you're performing without an instrument.
Speaker 13 (21:08):
And that took me to a higher level. And a
lot of people don't give that opportunity to learn that craft.
But when I grew up, you know, you got paid
to make to singing all these clubs and you can
sustain yourself and keep going. Unfortunately, they don't have that today.
A lot of clubs don't pay very well. Back then,
they paid well and you can make a living out
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of it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, that's the bad thing about it. Terry and I
were talking about clubs. I don't go to clubs, and
even now I'm listening to a lot of the things
where you know, as you would say, you could go
in and watch someone. You can't break a group anymore,
I think. Yeah, Gene Simmons said it, and he was correct.
There is no more breaking a group there is no
more doing that stuff. You've got to do more things
(21:51):
like this to get out. But also you have those
younger that younger audience that will go and listen to stuff.
We got a thing call you guys. Remember that the
group is Zombies, you know. Okay, So I got an
interview coming up with their you know, the members of
the band and how they started. You can't start like
that anymore. How these bands started and go out there
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and go and dour and do all these clubs because
they don't exist, you know. And that's the sad part.
And I think that's why I'm a rock and roller.
Terry's an eighties chick. I'm that guy that grew up
in an all white town that listened to you know,
sticks and foreign are and you know and Black Sabbath,
believe it or not. At the same time as I
was listening to motown and doing all this stuff and
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putting it together to be a disc jockey because that's
what I wanted to do. So I had to learn
all these things. So I thank my white friends and
every single day because they had they'd not taken me
on road chips and kidnap me to take me to
my first concert, which was Ted Nugent. I didn't know
where I was. They kidnapped me. They took me to
the Harvick centerstead of a Ted Nugent. I'm like, what
am I doing here? And but it's weird. It opened
(22:57):
me up because I love Great White Buffalo. I just
love certain things. And now I really appreciate songwriting. I mean,
when you're writing a song, what's do you have a
do you have a way that you write? How do
you write?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Usually I start humming a melody and I'll sink the
melody and then I'll start writing some words to.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
The melody, or I'll I'll write the words first.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
And then I'll think about if i want them to
rhyme or not.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
I'm thinking of a story that has happened to.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Me, which is uh the way most songwriters write. They
think of something from their past or history or currently
that has happened in their life, which they can explain it,
you know, in their lyrics. And that makes song very
powerful because people feel that reality. If the song is
real and the feelings that people feel it, and that's
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your audience.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You want them to feel.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
The emotion that you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's usually successful.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Rachel Kane was her named Rachel is She's fascinating because
one of the reasons I stopped being a DJ when
I was at Power when I was six and I
went to the Wave and this is in nineteen nineteen
ninety ninety one, was I didn't like house music. I
didn't realize that with the different types of house, I
was listening to England house music, not Chicago house music.
(24:23):
And she was there in the forefront, and I was like,
what is this. I don't like this? How was I
guess I was like Howard when he was growing up
with country and he didn't want to listen to country.
He ended up listening to dance. And then after, as
you get more mature, I'm like, oh, it's not that bad.
I'm like, oh, this is actually really good. I just
wasn't mature. And then I go again blaming it on
Rachel listening to lyrics while I was at her house.
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I'm like, oh, I never thought about that before, so
now I have a deeper appreciation for the lyrics. How
do you guys have your craft when you go out
to perform, because our job is to get people to
go out and see you perform. Rachel who dragged me
to go see Johnny Faustaff. I'm like, and it was great.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
You know what's interesting when you when you think about
Beyonce doing a house album, you know, Beyondce house, you
would never think of Beyonce doing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
A house album.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
It's like the same thing with country and Western.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I think the house music album was bigger than the
country in Western.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
It's remained a bit big since I don't know, thirty
years now or so.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Talk about I Am Golden. Talk about that collection. Why
is that meaningful?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well, I am Golden.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
It's really kind of about an older woman who still
loves life, has a zest for life, and she's very
golden and everything that she does. And that's truly how
I feel. I feel very you know, grateful and blessed.
I feel that age really doesn't have anything to do
with anything unless you're ill. Of course, good health is
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a blessing.
Speaker 14 (26:06):
And so it's like you're golden when you have all
these things around you and you have access to being
able to do something in life that you love.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
That's golden to me.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Nice Hey, Johnny, talk about the first time that you
performed where were you and how old were you.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
I think I was probably seventh eighth grade. And then
I got into a band in high school and we
were very fortunate. The bass player's mother had a lot
of connections, so I was living in Carson City, Nevada,
Reno and immediately we started playing all the radio TV
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stations up there and Lake Tahoe, and we got a
lot of exposure.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And I think that's.
Speaker 13 (26:56):
The only time I was ever frightened to be on
stage starting off like that because we're playing you know,
the Civic Center and TV and things like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But that's beginning of learning my craft.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
And that's I think the first time I actually professionally
started performing.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I just like your stance you have, like the you
believe that to me, you remind me of just like
Johnny Cash, of his stature, what he does, and I
like that, and I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 13 (27:27):
Yeah, I get that, you know frequently, you know, I
don't know like Johnny Cash. Sometimes people say Glenn Campbell.
The songs that I write, you know, the music covers
a lot of different genres, you know, because some of
my music are like standard blues and our stage that
you would hear on a Broadway Show things like that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I never know what's going to come out of me.
Speaker 13 (27:49):
When I sit down and write music, I just start searching,
like Irene was talking about, you know, just start searching,
punking around on the piano or the guitar until something
hits you that you like.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
When you're writing a song, do you know at what
point do you know like this is going to be big?
Like this is do you feel it when you're writing,
like there's you know, the ones that have become hits.
Speaker 13 (28:12):
That I'm always surprised what the public likes because I'll
write something and I'll write in the structure because I
really feel like you have to know your goal where
you want your songs to end up. I write very commercial,
so I write in a particular song structure that I
know if I write in the structure, I'm going to
get radio play. But you never know when Pepper will
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like open up the computer and start looking out seeing
where all the songs are, how they're doing. And I
was always surprised that we start off the top one
hundred and then it makes it go down to the
top ten.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You never know, never know.
Speaker 13 (28:52):
I'm just so thankful and appreciated that my songs end
up that way. But you know, it takes a lot
of people. I write the songs, Pepper looks over the songs.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We share that.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
You know, we go to the studio, we sit with
the music director and we write charts and give to
the musicians.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean there's a lot of people involved.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
So you know when I by the time I you know, stage,
I get all the credit. But really there's a lot
of people who deserve the credit. All the musicians, Pepper, Jada, producer,
the engineers in the studios.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, it takes a lot.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
What do you think about you know, today's youths and
how they don't have to go through all like you know,
all of that. You know, nowadays you get on TikTok,
you put out as you know, put you know, turn
on the mic, start singing, and then twenty four hours
later these people are famous. So it seems like you
know what I mean, like you can touch a million people,
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like you know, some of these kids are like overnight
making hits where you know, you guys have do you
feel like there's a lot of lost.
Speaker 13 (29:58):
You know, what happens is they can get away with
that and they get its on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But it really shows when you're giving.
Speaker 13 (30:07):
A venue and you have to come out by yourself,
either with a band or a guitar, and entertain the people.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And that's called paying your dues.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
If you get out there too soon, you're going to
make a fool of yourself. Sometimes you have to pay
your dues.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You have to start off.
Speaker 13 (30:23):
With small venues, make those mistakes, refine your ass and
that's that's the opportunity is. The more you can refine it,
the better you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
When you have that.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Big opportunity to be on stage and a major venue,
that's not the time you trial and error.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's the time that.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
You really pull out all the everything you've worked on
all these past years. So I think for a lot
of people, they don't get the opportunity to pay their
dues in their business.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
I want to add to that, Rachel, just because this
is just a little bit of conspiracy I have about that.
I do think that those people on a TikTok are
moted because there's a lot of people on TikTok that
can sing that still do not get validated and still
not make it. And so a lot of times I
think they're put there as a plant. I'm just that's
just my opinion because if people just come out of
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nowhere and I see you know, you know, hundreds of
people on there that don't get the same that are
even better than some of these people that make it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
So I do think that they might have paid their
dues somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
They just had some help getting pushed out there, maybe
with managers and pushing them, because they do that with
social I know for a fact they do that with influencers.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
So I'm it's just a different time, you know, like
when we were when we were all growing up, you know,
we'd go to concerts and you know, now you know,
it's about.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Computer.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I do a lot of promoting on social media sites
and so like they tell me, hey, here's a video
this guy.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
They say, if you put the video in the background
while you're doing content, you know, and it goes byral
you get paid. So there's people out there that are
making people famous through just playing their music, you know,
And it's just a different time, you know.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, it's just a different it's just a different promotion.
So you're going to be promoted, you know, on venues live.
It was just a different It's just a different like
Brian says, it's.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
A different way of doing things. But I don't think
it's really changed. It's just a different way of.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Promoting because back when I was growing up, we didn't
have these avenues, so that was you had promoters that
promoted you.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
So that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well, this is what leads into the next thing. Rachel,
when's the last concert that you went to? He's a concept, Oh,
Rod Stewart long ago.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
That was a long time ago. I was my twenties
and how I'm fifty one, so yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Howard. When's the last concert you went to? Howard?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Who you?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
When's the last concert you went to? Uh?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I went three Dollar Night when I was in college.
I've never been a big concert person.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And I'm getting to a point Terry was the last contration.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm going to spend my money on antiques and arts.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
The last concert I went to was the Food Fighters
and three.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Okay, so Irene and John. I was ticket I was
a ticket scalps. So my job when I grew up
to put myself to college, I was the blacks guy
helping rock bands and anything to the Harvard Civic Center
to the East coast of things, when all everybody was touring,
I got a chance to do that, and so I
to this day, I didn't get a chance to see
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the Who, even though I had two tickets. I was
busy scalping than the people, you know, seventy five dollars
one hundred and fifty dollars. And the reason I asked
that because now that I've caught up and I'm interviewing
these people, every person who's in the music business ses
the same thing. Our job is to help support you
guys because most people aren't going into concerts anymore. It's
a hard time to see it. And before we go
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to this trailer, real quick, Iren, what's the last concert
you went to? Because you guys both know you woost
this is your livelihood right right?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Well, I was last year to the Rolling Stones in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What was that luck for you?
Speaker 13 (34:19):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:20):
It's fantastic there, rock I think, yeah, absolutely, how cool.
I mean if you stripped everything from them, all the
and fare, they're still they know that rock and roll.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Hey, John, And after we show this this clip, I'm
going to come to you and ask you the same thing.
All right, just take a look at this and I'll
tell you why, because it goes into how bands started.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right now, I'm like to meet some people. You probably know.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Them better as the zombiees.
Speaker 13 (34:52):
I've never worked out if the zombies are lucky or
unlucky because we were around at the right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Time, so no one told me. Some groups of people
just click it was luck. Really did you make these
five people?
Speaker 11 (35:06):
Well, it sounds different, you know, totally different to the fact.
We wanted to be a bit more adventurous, do something
exciting and different.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
We just kept feeding off each other the creatively. It
sounded really quite special.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
One of our favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Ever after the recording of this album songs broke up.
It was really unfortunate what happened to us.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Someone was making fortunate it only one was nice.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's a legacy left the fine and it's a legacy
that will go on.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now. John. The reason why I want to show that
because I'm going to talk to the zombies. None of
them played musical instruments. They just put themselves together like
you used to do in the old days. So like
how John von Jovi started, which is interesting if you
ever seen his story, and it's one of those things.
People don't do that tomorrow these days. They just said,
and I think that maybe one of the things you
were talking about. And it's really sad because where can
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you go see people perform. We're supposed to be out
there helping support the arts, right John.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 13 (36:17):
And here outside of Vegas where I live, you know,
we have a large tribute bands. You know, you're talking
about the last band I've seen. I went to go
see Michael Jackson. And you know, even though they're not
the original, they are excellent tribute bands, all kinds that
(36:39):
I've had an opportunity to see, and all of them
are top notch. Uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They that's really professionalism, you.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Know, Irene or when it comes to uh, you know,
you're more of a single performer. But still it's a
lot of work of what you go into writing these songs.
And I know what Rachel works on, Rachel Caine, because
she's great with what she does, you know, starting out
of Chicago, putting all this stuff together in the early eighties. Man,
And I'm gonna get her on the show because we
like her, she likes us. What she's put together attracts
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Records is just fabulous.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
I know she's a great little performer too. And when
I was listening with John was saying about impersonators per
se uh to the name stars like Michael Jackson. There's
a show out in Las Vegas called The Legends and
they have Sharon Elvis, you know all of them, Adele
(37:35):
and those people are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, Rebel, you were going to say something, Rebel, No,
not me, okay, and we'll show the next slip. John.
When you were growing up, who were your influences is?
I was always been curious about this because of how
you perform, on what you write and thing well.
Speaker 13 (37:55):
Very young, I was very fortunate. Sammy Davis Junior was
worming a hair as at Lake Tahoe and the friend
of mine was the stage manager and she asked if
I would like to see Sammy Davis Junior, and I
said absolutely, And I got to go backstage and stand
in the wings and watch Sammy Davis Junior. The most
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incredible performer anywhere. But to see him live, it's different
than you watch him on TV. There's a big difference.
And that's with any performer. You know, you can see
them live, but when you see them in person, there's
a whole different energy. And he was one of my
first And of course I loved the rat Pack. I
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love show tunes, and I love all kinds of music.
You know, I got into rock and roll, but I
love the Lownes main showroom type of performance where you
come out you as an entertainer and individual and converse
with the audience. That's real craft that takes years sometimes
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to learn that. I've played just with me and a guitar.
I've played with little combos, and I've played with orchestras.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And each one has its own.
Speaker 13 (39:12):
Ability to accommodate what your style is, and I've been
fortunate to have to be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And Irene, who did who did you like? When you
were going up? And we're going to show this next flip?
Dad are Well.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
I also like Sammy Davis Junior. I think he was
the best entertainer ever. I liked Tenny Rogers too, very
different worse friends always.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
I was never a big fan of Dean Martin's for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I don't know why, Why did he try to hit
on you?
Speaker 13 (39:50):
No?
Speaker 10 (39:51):
But I knew him pretty well. I knew them pretty well.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
I at one time used to take mister Sinatra's manager,
which who was, And so I used to tell around
with him quite a bit. And so I got a
lot of exposure and experience when I was doing that,
and it was quite a time of life for me.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I learned a lot. All right, let's take a look
at this, because I think everybody had, If this is
the thing that I think it is, I think everybody
had a piece of this art. Hi, everybody, and welcome
to the world of Thomas Kincaid.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And I have about twenty of his paintings.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Paintings brought me one hundred and seventy five yars.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Paintings.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, way too many. Art is something for everyone. Nineteen thousand,
the company was breaking one hundred million for what was
being sold.
Speaker 13 (40:48):
That was unheard of.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
People were buying not just a painting, they were buying
a piece of Thomas Kincaid, which involved a.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Performance as a high as Christian God bless me. He
was like a holy man.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I'm not going to fall dictum to the same crises
that you see.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And so many people who get put in the public,
IM that won't happen to me.
Speaker 13 (41:21):
People who described him as a Jacqueline Hide, Christian painter
of light by day, raging strip club, attending out of control,
drunk by night.
Speaker 9 (41:31):
He had it all and he threw it away.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
We knew that the ball existed, but I don't remember
ever really in there.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh, severity made these.
Speaker 9 (41:52):
Wow, you could say Thomas Kincaid was a performance artist
and he created his greatest performance art piece in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
All right, Howard, I'm going to go to you, since
sure there the art collector of everything. Uh, did you
ever collect any of kin Kid's art or that wasn't
for you?
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Know?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
I had a customer that bought went over the sofa.
I've always thought of it almost like Christmas cards. They're
they're a little bit yimmicky to me.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Mean the the thing about art, you want to do
something creative, different instead of new movement.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
This was just a little bit, like I said, two
Christmas cards looking for me.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I wanted to know what you thought about that, because
this movie comes out and almost everybody had one and
I didn't know anything about it. But it's the fascinating
documentary and it's interesting. And then they sold him.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
They sold him in the mall at.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
The time, so anybody. So, I mean, they're right, they
sold a lot, but a lot doesn't make them famous.
The fewer they have and the more notoriety gives it
more money. Of course, as far as investor goes, and
Pepper give.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
An introduction to who you are real quick, and we're
gonna showed this, but actually and then Pepper will come
back to you. Okay, okay, all right, go ahead, Red
Rock Packing Company, Bred General Artie.
Speaker 16 (43:21):
Y'all you hang up about of that trap is all
has done.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I think he was the number one band in the country.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
No other band was imitate, no other band had this notch,
And I.
Speaker 11 (43:33):
Fell in love with the man, saying one nighter's uh
having the screaming jitterbugs, who, after all, did make him.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
There's no doubt the event. But Artie is far too intellectually,
he's far too pragmatic a man, far too serious a musician.
Speaker 9 (43:51):
In those days, press presented the fact that he was
telling the people off, and he said, I don't want
to play.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
For people that want listen to me.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
One night, I remember taking a walk to Central Park
with a friend of mine and I said to her,
see all those lights up there in those buildings and
she said yeah, and I said, well behind everyone those
lights as a person, and someday all of those people
don't know my name.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
The reason I wanted to show this Irene and Pepper
and Howard is because this one best feature documentary nineteen
eighty seven at the Oscars. I never saw this documentary,
but it's coming back in four K, so it's for
that new audience. And I when I when I watched it,
I'm like, this is a great documentary. And I had
the chance to meet him at the Beverly Hills Friars Club,
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and I never did because I didn't know anything about him,
and I just wish that I did because it's a
fascinating story. I mean, did you get a chance to
ever meet Artie Shaw?
Speaker 9 (45:06):
I did that, but one of my vocal coaches, who's
also a player like Artie gets his hero.
Speaker 13 (45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:16):
His name is Michael Lyric, and he said, always watch
Artie Shaw.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
He was such a great musician. But I never did
meet him.
Speaker 10 (45:24):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Great documentary. You know, I will send you the length
of your friend if you wanted. And Pepper J we
got to talk about you because you've got an interesting
history that a lot of people don't know. Tell everybody
who you are and what you're doing with John Michael.
Speaker 16 (45:38):
Ferr I am Pepper j I'm a music producer and
I've been producing John Michael Ferrari and his songs for
more than thirty five years. And I have a couple
other artists that are doing very well, including Sophie Loves
and you know Sophie and Life Like Bluesy Rocker, and
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I just love making music at every level of it,
from lyrics to arrangements to phraseology, and I enjoy it,
and I really enjoy It's been a fun ride working
with John Michael Ferrari because of all the awards and
the radio charts, and he's humble.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
You could talk to him for eight hours and.
Speaker 16 (46:19):
Not known that he's been Songwriter of the Year and
Crosser rovers of the Year and Radio Artists of the Year.
He just anyway, he's humbling. It's been a real nice trip.
Thanks for asking, Brian.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well again it goes back to you again, the women
here minus me and Howard if I weren't women. I mean,
there's a lot of great things that you just don't
get enough credit. And so congratulations with that. And so Pepper,
did you ever meet Artie Shaw at all.
Speaker 16 (46:46):
No, I did not, But I've always been a big
fan of that era and we've enjoyed it when some
of John's songs almost look like piece of it pieces
that it could come from that type of especially the
harmonies and what a great time.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Is all you have?
Speaker 16 (47:06):
Isn't that what the name of it was? How older
you get, the more you realize how important that is.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, I think that's why I'm enjoying lyrics. Now, Hey, Rebel, well,
I mean, Rachel, we got one last wrong. Tell everybody
your social media links what you got coming up? Followed
by Howard, followed by Terry go ahead.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Okay, so my name is Rachel and Robberts.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
You can follow me on all social media platforms and
watched me in the morning by a show called Coffee Talk.
Rachel Roberts recipe is what's coming up? I have a
movie at the end of the month. I'm really excited.
It's a horror like and I know my character is
good because she doesn't die at the end, like oh my,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
This is a pretty good role. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
Alick Howard Wiggins, Facebook and Horse Movies reviewing more. I'm
in a little movie recall without warning that it would
be out pretty soon. And then I'm in the voice
character of a book Nodule the Rabbit by Diane Farbird.
And uh and then I plan.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
To uh come September, I'm going to make some changes
and I'm going to uh probably get a book and
feature my own home in the book like most designers do.
So that's the plan I got for coming up that
you didn't even know about.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
And then you should. And then for everybody, that art
in the back is all his. It's all authentic. He's
been collecting it since twelve or sixteen years old. See
ever since Terry Marie tell him give you social media
links and everything.
Speaker 8 (48:35):
Terry Marie non stop on all platforms. I'm on TikTok stop.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
So watch me there.
Speaker 8 (48:42):
This is gonna the rest of this year is going
to be a little crazy. I'm going to surprise everybody.
So just keep keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Out and Pepper give them any dates with John maybe
you know, maybe coming up performing and everything like that.
Speaker 16 (48:54):
Well, Thanks Brian, Johnmichael Ferrari dot com appreciate you coming
to visit. These are just some of the pictures that
happened lately. If you go to tour, Oh that's lovely.
I read lovely thank you on his website. Then now
you'll see where he's going to be. He's going to Alaska,
He's doing some touring in Europe, over in Atlanta, then
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over in Nashville for the Joseie Awards, and I have
to stay there.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
That'd be great, and irene to get the last work.
Where can people check out your music and where you
might be performing next?
Speaker 9 (49:30):
Okay, so you can check out my music yet I
Readmichael's music dot com and I'll be doing some shows
for I Lean Shapiro and Jimmy Star Star pr and
Fire Island and some of the New York venues there
and the rave shows that are coming up pretty soon
this summer.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, I want to congratulate everybody from coming on. And
it was all about music and art as usual, which
is a good thing. So I always say this, thank
you everybody. It's not always easy putting everything together, and
so have a good night, tonight, better day tomorrow. You
see someone without a smile, please give them one of yours.
Listen to these artists music, support the arts, go and
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see them on tour. And like I said, this is
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But the thinking about that why it makes it important
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because I knew it was gonna hit on this show.
I knew Ireen was gonna be on it, and I
had an idea that John was gonna be on it,
even though he didn't do but I did know, and
I wanted to make it about singers. So obviously this
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one hundred outlets around the world right now, and obviously
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out of Franklin, Tennessee. And I'm really happy about it
because I wanted to do something about music because who
does not listen to music? Howard loves the dance the music,
so doesn't Terry, you know, when I'm at Rachel Sounds, Aroun,
Johnny Fallstaff and sucking the blood us always about that
(02:11):
that country time, that new type of music you know
from Chicago house music, right, I mean, and that's all
about things like that. So the move Award winners they
both want, you know, I I like their music. The
problem is we can't play music anymore on podcasts because
we get dinged and that sucks. So you know, when
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you've got the song of the Year and you're you know,
best Country music of the year, and you know you
you know, Irene, I'm just amazed and all the stuff
that you've done. I had those off to you. Whether
it's in the equestrian world, I'm going off the top
of my head because it's been a while since I've
seen everything. I come from the world of dressage, so
I know all about that world.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Our Dutch Dutch warm Blood Lagio was award winning horse
for us. When it comes to these things. I love
your all the things that you've done, and I thought
it was important to have you on because Eileen said so,
Jimmy Starr said so, but I said, of course we
would love to have her on because when you've done
all those things, you know, you had that best song
(03:12):
of the year, you know, if you wanted the Josie Awards,
which Howard knows of in Tennessee. Those aren't small feats.
Those are great, you know. And John has done the
same thing. He's one of the Josie Awards. He's one
of the Western Country Music Awards in on West Coast,
which is even more important. I'm going to have you
both talk about your songs. But first I got introduced everybody,
(03:32):
because there's weird weather going around. Canada's having tornadoes. You
can imagine that in Toronto, my friends in Portugal and
in South America they're having outages. You know, you saw
what we did. We started ten minutes ly. We always
start on time. So you just never know. Just check
your sound because we don't know, Howard. We never know
if Howard's gonna have you Internet or anything like that.
(03:53):
Howard telling me you are ahead.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I'm Howard Wiggins.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I'm one of the world's top thirty five interior designors.
I'm son of a little Mary Wiggins, played still guitar
with Eddie Arnold, do acting and movies and voiceovers and
dancing and modeling, and I'm almost seventy two and i
just lived my life the best second.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And Rachel roberts So, Rachel, you know, we again, we've
all been through these things. We never know about our technology,
but we make it work some kind of way, don't we.
Just there? What about who you are, what you've been doing.
You've been doing a lot of content lately.
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Yes, I've been shooting. Okay, So I have a little
morning show. My name is Rachel Robertson. I have a
little morning show called Coffee traw and I just get
on and talk about bullshit every day and it's on
social media platforms. I also am an actress. I'm going
to be a movie at the end of the month,
so I'm excited about that. I do modeling as well,
(04:50):
and product promotions and commercials and all sorts of fun stuff.
And I've been with Brian for years, and you know,
all of us have very loyal to Brian.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
He's a great guy.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
So thank you Brian for having me on media reviews
some more.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's a lot of fun. You're most welcome. We couldn't
have got without you. So all right, so let's talk
about you really quickly before we get into everybody for charity.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
I've been with Brian since twenty fourteen, so it's been
quite a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I do red.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
Carpet hostings for movie reviews and more, which I love
to do.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'm fitness competitor.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
I've been competed in a while, but I'm still a
fitness junkie. I'd like to motivate women over forty and
fifty to stay fit and healthy.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I've been acting. I've been an actress all my.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
Life since as a little kid. Truth, so it's done
several projects. I'm here in Los Angeles, California. I also
travel a little bit of art. They called me non
stop for a reason. I also work in the corporate
world in orthopedics with doctors and fitness our and athletic trainers.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So have that going on too. So I'm this busy person.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Say that cool, so Irene. When you're that singer, songwriter,
that musician, obviously those are great things. And when the
LGBT community really loves you for what you're doing and
you're at that, you know, you go to the get
Out Awards, which is really really important. And I like Laane,
very interesting song, very cool song. Howard is our dancer here.
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I just love listening to music, and now I listen
to the lyrics because the lyrics do a lot for me.
And when you've had that best Song of the Year
in twenty twenty three, the Josie Music Awards, like I
was talking about. And you've also brand in Broadway world
you know, and also perform in Times Squares for the
body of Antiversity of International Peace Day. I believe in
world peace. I'm a Buddhist, so it took me sixteen
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years to believe in that. That's important to me. My
hat goes off to you, Irene Michaels. And with John
you know, also that recording artist, that singer songwriter. He's
not storyteller too, but when it comes to you know,
having the best male album of the Year, splash into
National Singer Songwriters Association. Those things are no small keeps.
When it comes to that, I keep dreaming, I love
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that song. I never knew I was gonna love country music,
and all of a sudden, eight years ago, I started
going down to Tennessee and I started falling in love
with country music. Now, when you guys have grown up
in different eras, I think Howard would know a lot
about this, and maybe a little bit of Rachel and Terry.
All these songs become classics. You know, there was not
a lot of icons left in the world. There is
(07:30):
no Michael Jackson, there is no Tom Petty. You know,
we're lucky to have, you know, Willie Nelson still with us.
We just lost Sergie Mendez. You know, I think of
all these great icons, some of them will talk about tonight.
I mean, when it comes to your history, why don't
you know you wanted to be a singer, because you've
got a vast background. Talk about before you started singing,
(07:51):
because I don't think enough people know what you did before.
Speaker 9 (07:54):
Well, I've been singing for a very long time, and
I've sucked it.
Speaker 10 (08:00):
I started it, thanks stopped it. I started it.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
So I started singing probably over thirty five forty years ago, believe.
Speaker 11 (08:08):
It or not.
Speaker 9 (08:09):
And I've always loved music. I've always been in show
business of sorts. I started out as a dancer. I
was on Broadway in Broadway shows for several years. I
was Chorus Lang, which was my biggest show. And then
from dancing, I went into acting, and then I went
(08:29):
into modeling, and then I went into singing again.
Speaker 12 (08:33):
So days of the business. I just loved the business.
There's no business like show business, absolutely, And then Washington
say there's no business without the show.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's right, because you know, John, you understand this. Without
the business, there is no show. Right. Talk about how
you started, John, because you've got that. You've got, You've
gobbled in a couple of different worlds. But I loved
your history of how how you started. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well, everything I do is my main thing is music.
Everything else is a hobby. Other than that.
Speaker 13 (09:08):
I just knew at a young age this is what
I wanted to do. And I started dabbling a little bit,
and then as time progressed, I got.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Better and better. I learned the craft.
Speaker 13 (09:19):
There's a craft in songwriting and performing and if you
learn the craft, you know how to excel after a while.
And of course having a producer like I have Pepper Jay.
I mean early this morning, I was watching her and
she's on the computer conversing with people all over the world,
and I'm just sitting there drinking coffee. I'm thinking I
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couldn't do this. I mean, I do what I do.
I sing and I write songs, but she does all
the heavy lifting when it comes to the business, and
without her, I wouldn't have a career. I think everyone
to have the fortunate of have a producer manager like that.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm always talking about, you know, if you don't have
that good publicist, and a lot of them tend to
be women, which is great. I was watching a documentary
today on libraries, how High Library started again. If it
weren't for women, we wouldn't really have the libraries of today.
So I keep going back and finding a lot of
these things, and again, movie reviews and more honors women.
(10:19):
This is more than the I mean, Howard's the only
male Coast co Goos we've ever had, and guests who
found him, a woman shot Rachel Robbers found him, so
I didn't fine him Rachel did. It was one of
those things where again, if it weren't for you women,
we wouldn't be where we are. And so when you
have that, you know, Irene, I'm thinking of that song.
I like, Wayne, why do I like that song? Talk
(10:40):
about that? And were you happy when it won? You know,
the award the Josie Awards in twenty twenty three. Isn't
it not easy?
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Yeah, it's a funny story.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
I was actually at the Joseie Awards when they were
doing the awards, of course, and I really didn't expect
to win.
Speaker 10 (10:58):
So I was sitting in the.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Audience being very naughty, and I was looking at my
text messages and all of a sudden, I heard my name.
I read Michael's you know best song Drive? Did they
just say my name? So I was shocked, and so
I threw my phone on the floor and I got
(11:20):
up and I walked it up to the stage and
I accepted my award and I was very honored. It's
it's a beautiful song. Most people like that song. For
some reason.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
People really relate to that.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
It's warm, it's fuzzy, it's cozy, it's homey, it's real,
it's heartfelt. For all those reasons. I think people like
listening to it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And you know, did you know were you singing when
you were on Broadway as one of the girls.
Speaker 10 (11:51):
Well, I was just dancing at that time, so.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
We were your legs and shirt too? Or what were
your legs insured? Also, I mean you were one of
those dancers.
Speaker 10 (12:02):
Yeah, I was pretty leagy.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You still are. Yes, See he's modest talking about, you know,
Chicago house music. I can't remember what her name, but
it's one of the things where another woman when you
have Chicago house music, and then turning around, she is
one of the world's best of that, isn't.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
She Yes, it's probably Tracks Records.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Absolutely.
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Tracks is a big label. It's a major house label.
A matter of fact. The woman who owns that, her
name is Rachel Caine, and she and I are neighbors
in the same building. And she came to one of
my shows and she said to me, I read I
think you should be doing house music, And I.
Speaker 10 (12:47):
Said, really, it's really my style. I like, can'tbaree prge.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
Songs Standards American Songbook says, no, you'd be great at
house is with a pop flare to it.
Speaker 10 (13:03):
I go, okay, I'll try it. I'm all too willing
to try anything.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
And so that's when all the songs like Eyli Grayne was.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Worn and ever since then, I've been on her label.
Speaker 12 (13:14):
Which has been very successful for me.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So John, when you have I've never been to this,
but one of the best award shows that I ever
went to, and I encourage people to go to some
of these award shows was the Songwriters Ask at the Hoards.
The best award show I ever went to. The year
I went, Neil Young was he was there for a
Hall of Fame and what was Janet Jackson? Jermaine Duprie
(13:43):
Jenna Jackson's boyfriend at that point, Jermaine dupri And I
thought it was fascinating because they were some of the
happiest people I've ever seen in my life. You didn't
know who they were, Rachel and Terry, but they wrote
some of the most iconic songs as ever. And I go,
why have you guys so happy in here? And I'll
just never forget. I can't remember his name is this guy?
Said Ryan? Nobody knows who the hell I am, but
they all know my songs and I get paid for them.
(14:05):
Listening to my songs and I go, that's it. And
then I'm walking out and I'm looking to the left
of the Schryl Crow to the left of me, and
I forgot who were western right, because I had never
met Cheryl Crow before. As I was leaving, I'm like, oh,
I love this Award Show. If I ever bring someone
to Award Show, that's the one to go through. John
talk about what it's like to be that songwriter, because
you guys a fascinating to me as I'm listening as
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an old disc jockey that I was. You know, if
I'm in Rachel's house and I'm listening to something that
I may not know, or if I know Terry is
dantying the eighties music, I now listen to the lyrics
as the disc jockey. For me, it was always about
to beat. But I think because i'm majorityan now I'm
listening to the lyrics, it's really fascinating to me.
Speaker 13 (14:46):
Well, I didn't start off as a country artist, you know.
I used to sing a lot of country songs when
I was playing with bands and rock and roll and
show tunes. We used to do a tribute to the
Oscars where we do all the the top oscar songs
over the years, and I was exposed to all types
of music. But it wasn't until we went to Nashville
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and we added a slide guitar to our songs that
I got inducted into the country music genre. And because
most of our songs, they're crossover songs. And we're very
fortunate that that happened. That we have a pop radio.
We've played on pop radio and country songs. But I
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think a lot of it is because we're part of
the Nashville community and we use the Nashville musicians and
there's that flavor of Nashville country music, but also there's
pop music in there. We're very fortunate and we have that.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So Howard, you were talking earlier about, you know, your
Facebook friends with John. I think that's fascinating. I actually
saw John perform and he reminds me of and I'm
going to show a trailer later later. I've already shown
Irate Johnny. You guys probably remember I already showing the
band leader on how he started going up against Benny Goodman.
I just see similarities with different things coming Now as
(16:05):
you get older, you get a chance to go back
and see people's history of things Howard talk about. I mean,
your dad helped start the grandell Opery with Ddie Arnold.
So but you didn't like country music when you're growing up,
where are you now? Because you love to dance, you would.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Love kind of like I'm kind of like Terry.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
I'm still in the eighties, but yeah, that's where man
in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So Irene Howard love to dance to a lot of
your music. He is that dancer where he likes to
go out and dance for hours and just women will
start getting up and dancing because a lot of guys
just don't dance, but Howard does. Even I don't dance.
I'm afraid to go up and dance with Howard because
he would put me in a shame. So I just
kind of like watch vicariously. But it's funny. But he
would like your stuff. And the reason why I like
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this and I say this, is because he has those
shorts that we put up that gets thousands and thousands
of hits, something that I put up to I got
another one I'm gonna put up in two days. I
just was waiting for the ray that we didn't get. Dang,
But if he can dance to anything and almost any
song could go to the way he dances. It's really fascinating.
Speaker 10 (17:10):
Okay, we'll have to dance together because I.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Love absolutely absolutely well. Irene. What do you like about
dancing and singing?
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Uh, it's an expression, I think you just I let
myself go when I dance, So I just feel, you know,
everything going on around me, which is alive. And that's
what we want to feel alive. We want to feel something.
And me dancing is that singing makes me happy. It
just makes puts a smile on my face. So the
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combination of those two are very healthy.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Hey, Rachel, I blame you for this one. I think
when I was at your house in Texas, I think
I started listening to lyrics. You know, we were you
had Siri on and we were listening to Johnny Falstaff
and it was the lyrics. It was something about the
lyrics that you like. I'm like, I want to hear
the beat as the old dish Shocking Me was about. Now,
I feel like women because women fell in love with lyrics,
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whether it was listening to Frank Sinatra or John bon
Jovi or David you know being you know, David really wrong.
It was really interesting. Now I'm like, what's wrong with me?
I'm actually listening to the lyrics now, going back to
a lot of the classics and enjoying what you songwriters wrote.
I never did that before. It's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Question, Brian, how how many times do you go back?
Because I do that now.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
I listened to lyrics more because it always got me.
But how many times have you gone back and maybe
looked on Spotify where the words are actually written down,
and even singing the wrong lyrics for you?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
My kids laugh at me because I'm singing. They're like,
you're singing it wrong. Our day, we had to like
look at the back of a record.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
There was no way.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Now you can just pull up the lyrics online so.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
They know all the words. How many times?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Harry?
Speaker 14 (19:00):
Right?
Speaker 15 (19:00):
That is actually funny because I'm like, oh my god,
I didn't seen that song the wrong, the wrong that
For years, I was like.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right, well, you know, Johnny, I think about this, U Aerosmith,
dude looks like a lady. I was thinking, do you
I I thought it was do the Funky Lady because
that's what it sounded like to me. I didn't know
until I read it to lady.
Speaker 12 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I ran into Steve Perry and I'm like, I love
that the lady know what's wrong? You know it's dude,
looks like a lady. I need to know. I know, yeah,
what is? What is writing songs? Writing lyrics were important
to you because I've seen you more. You're just like stylish,
you know. You know I didn't hear you see country songs.
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I just heard you singing. You were fashionable. You were
really cool the way you were singing at the at
the Easy Way Oscar event.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Well, you know, I grew up in a time where
you could play in clubs and make a living. And
every club, almost everywhere had entertainment, and you worked six
weeks here in six weeks there. And I actually had
a booking agent and he kept me booked all the time.
But that's how you hone your craft. And one day
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I was always playing with a band or behind a guitar.
And then I was playing at a resort outside of
Palm Springs, very much.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Like what you see in Dirty Dancing.
Speaker 13 (20:35):
It was like a resort like that, and they had
a main show room and they had a little lounge.
I played the lounge and one day Pepper came in.
I didn't know Pepper at the time. She said, you
know you're good, but I could make you better, and
she taught me how to perform on stage. Right, Sammy
Davis Junior and all the greats Sinatra, Wayne Newton, you know,
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really had dizazz when they're performing on stage.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
There's certain for this how to move and how to
dance when you're performing without an instrument.
Speaker 13 (21:08):
And that took me to a higher level. And a
lot of people don't give that opportunity to learn that craft.
But when I grew up, you know, you got paid
to make to singing all these clubs and you can
sustain yourself and keep going. Unfortunately, they don't have that today.
A lot of clubs don't pay very well. Back then,
they paid well and you can make a living out
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of it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, that's the bad thing about it. Terry and I
were talking about clubs. I don't go to clubs, and
even now I'm listening to a lot of the things
where you know, as you would say, you could go
in and watch someone. You can't break a group anymore,
I think. Yeah, Gene Simmons said it, and he was correct.
There is no more breaking a group there is no
more doing that stuff. You've got to do more things
(21:51):
like this to get out. But also you have those
younger that younger audience that will go and listen to stuff.
We got a thing call you guys. Remember that the
group is Zombies, you know. Okay, So I got an
interview coming up with their you know, the members of
the band and how they started. You can't start like
that anymore. How these bands started and go out there
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and go and dour and do all these clubs because
they don't exist, you know. And that's the sad part.
And I think that's why I'm a rock and roller.
Terry's an eighties chick. I'm that guy that grew up
in an all white town that listened to you know,
sticks and foreign are and you know and Black Sabbath,
believe it or not. At the same time as I
was listening to motown and doing all this stuff and
(22:33):
putting it together to be a disc jockey because that's
what I wanted to do. So I had to learn
all these things. So I thank my white friends and
every single day because they had they'd not taken me
on road chips and kidnap me to take me to
my first concert, which was Ted Nugent. I didn't know
where I was. They kidnapped me. They took me to
the Harvick centerstead of a Ted Nugent. I'm like, what
am I doing here? And but it's weird. It opened
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me up because I love Great White Buffalo. I just
love certain things. And now I really appreciate songwriting. I mean,
when you're writing a song, what's do you have a
do you have a way that you write? How do
you write?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Usually I start humming a melody and I'll sink the
melody and then I'll start writing some words to.
Speaker 10 (23:19):
The melody, or I'll I'll write the words first.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
And then I'll think about if i want them to
rhyme or not.
Speaker 10 (23:29):
I'm thinking of a story that has happened to.
Speaker 9 (23:32):
Me, which is uh the way most songwriters write. They
think of something from their past or history or currently
that has happened in their life, which they can explain it,
you know, in their lyrics. And that makes song very
powerful because people feel that reality. If the song is
real and the feelings that people feel it, and that's
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your audience.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You want them to feel.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
The emotion that you're feeling.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It's usually successful.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Rachel Kane was her named Rachel is She's fascinating because
one of the reasons I stopped being a DJ when
I was at Power when I was six and I
went to the Wave and this is in nineteen nineteen
ninety ninety one, was I didn't like house music. I
didn't realize that with the different types of house, I
was listening to England house music, not Chicago house music.
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And she was there in the forefront, and I was like,
what is this. I don't like this? How was I
guess I was like Howard when he was growing up
with country and he didn't want to listen to country.
He ended up listening to dance. And then after, as
you get more mature, I'm like, oh, it's not that bad.
I'm like, oh, this is actually really good. I just
wasn't mature. And then I go again blaming it on
Rachel listening to lyrics while I was at her house.
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I'm like, oh, I never thought about that before, so
now I have a deeper appreciation for the lyrics. How
do you guys have your craft when you go out
to perform, because our job is to get people to
go out and see you perform. Rachel who dragged me
to go see Johnny Faustaff. I'm like, and it was great.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
You know what's interesting when you when you think about
Beyonce doing a house album, you know, Beyondce house, you
would never think of Beyonce doing.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
A house album.
Speaker 12 (25:18):
It's like the same thing with country and Western.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I think the house music album was bigger than the
country in Western.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (25:29):
It's remained a bit big since I don't know, thirty
years now or so.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Talk about I Am Golden. Talk about that collection. Why
is that meaningful?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Well, I am Golden.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
It's really kind of about an older woman who still
loves life, has a zest for life, and she's very
golden and everything that she does. And that's truly how
I feel. I feel very you know, grateful and blessed.
I feel that age really doesn't have anything to do
with anything unless you're ill. Of course, good health is
(26:05):
a blessing.
Speaker 14 (26:06):
And so it's like you're golden when you have all
these things around you and you have access to being
able to do something in life that you love.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
That's golden to me.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Nice Hey, Johnny, talk about the first time that you
performed where were you and how old were you.
Speaker 13 (26:26):
I think I was probably seventh eighth grade. And then
I got into a band in high school and we
were very fortunate. The bass player's mother had a lot
of connections, so I was living in Carson City, Nevada,
Reno and immediately we started playing all the radio TV
(26:49):
stations up there and Lake Tahoe, and we got a
lot of exposure.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
And I think that's.
Speaker 13 (26:56):
The only time I was ever frightened to be on
stage starting off like that because we're playing you know,
the Civic Center and TV and things like that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But that's beginning of learning my craft.
Speaker 13 (27:09):
And that's I think the first time I actually professionally
started performing.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I just like your stance you have, like the you
believe that to me, you remind me of just like
Johnny Cash, of his stature, what he does, and I
like that, and I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 13 (27:27):
Yeah, I get that, you know frequently, you know, I
don't know like Johnny Cash. Sometimes people say Glenn Campbell.
The songs that I write, you know, the music covers
a lot of different genres, you know, because some of
my music are like standard blues and our stage that
you would hear on a Broadway Show things like that.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I never know what's going to come out of me.
Speaker 13 (27:49):
When I sit down and write music, I just start searching,
like Irene was talking about, you know, just start searching,
punking around on the piano or the guitar until something
hits you that you like.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
When you're writing a song, do you know at what
point do you know like this is going to be big?
Like this is do you feel it when you're writing,
like there's you know, the ones that have become hits.
Speaker 13 (28:12):
That I'm always surprised what the public likes because I'll
write something and I'll write in the structure because I
really feel like you have to know your goal where
you want your songs to end up. I write very commercial,
so I write in a particular song structure that I
know if I write in the structure, I'm going to
get radio play. But you never know when Pepper will
(28:35):
like open up the computer and start looking out seeing
where all the songs are, how they're doing. And I
was always surprised that we start off the top one
hundred and then it makes it go down to the
top ten.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
You never know, never know.
Speaker 13 (28:52):
I'm just so thankful and appreciated that my songs end
up that way. But you know, it takes a lot
of people. I write the songs, Pepper looks over the songs.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We share that.
Speaker 13 (29:05):
You know, we go to the studio, we sit with
the music director and we write charts and give to
the musicians.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean there's a lot of people involved.
Speaker 13 (29:14):
So you know when I by the time I you know, stage,
I get all the credit. But really there's a lot
of people who deserve the credit. All the musicians, Pepper, Jada, producer,
the engineers in the studios.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I mean, it takes a lot.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
What do you think about you know, today's youths and
how they don't have to go through all like you know,
all of that. You know, nowadays you get on TikTok,
you put out as you know, put you know, turn
on the mic, start singing, and then twenty four hours
later these people are famous. So it seems like you
know what I mean, like you can touch a million people,
(29:49):
like you know, some of these kids are like overnight
making hits where you know, you guys have do you
feel like there's a lot of lost.
Speaker 13 (29:58):
You know, what happens is they can get away with
that and they get its on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But it really shows when you're giving.
Speaker 13 (30:07):
A venue and you have to come out by yourself,
either with a band or a guitar, and entertain the people.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And that's called paying your dues.
Speaker 13 (30:16):
If you get out there too soon, you're going to
make a fool of yourself. Sometimes you have to pay
your dues.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
You have to start off.
Speaker 13 (30:23):
With small venues, make those mistakes, refine your ass and
that's that's the opportunity is. The more you can refine it,
the better you're going to be.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
When you have that.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Big opportunity to be on stage and a major venue,
that's not the time you trial and error.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's the time that.
Speaker 13 (30:41):
You really pull out all the everything you've worked on
all these past years. So I think for a lot
of people, they don't get the opportunity to pay their
dues in their business.
Speaker 8 (30:51):
I want to add to that, Rachel, just because this
is just a little bit of conspiracy I have about that.
I do think that those people on a TikTok are
moted because there's a lot of people on TikTok that
can sing that still do not get validated and still
not make it. And so a lot of times I
think they're put there as a plant. I'm just that's
just my opinion because if people just come out of
(31:14):
nowhere and I see you know, you know, hundreds of
people on there that don't get the same that are
even better than some of these people that make it.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
So I do think that they might have paid their
dues somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
They just had some help getting pushed out there, maybe
with managers and pushing them, because they do that with
social I know for a fact they do that with influencers.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
So I'm it's just a different time, you know, like
when we were when we were all growing up, you know,
we'd go to concerts and you know, now you know,
it's about.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Computer.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
I do a lot of promoting on social media sites
and so like they tell me, hey, here's a video
this guy.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
They say, if you put the video in the background
while you're doing content, you know, and it goes byral
you get paid. So there's people out there that are
making people famous through just playing their music, you know,
And it's just a different time, you know.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Yeah, it's just a different it's just a different promotion.
So you're going to be promoted, you know, on venues live.
It was just a different It's just a different like
Brian says, it's.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
A different way of doing things. But I don't think
it's really changed. It's just a different way of.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Promoting because back when I was growing up, we didn't
have these avenues, so that was you had promoters that
promoted you.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
So that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well, this is what leads into the next thing. Rachel,
when's the last concert that you went to? He's a concept, Oh,
Rod Stewart long ago.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
That was a long time ago. I was my twenties
and how I'm fifty one, so yeah, I was.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Howard. When's the last concert you went to? Howard?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Who you?
Speaker 3 (32:57):
When's the last concert you went to? Uh?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
I went three Dollar Night when I was in college.
I've never been a big concert person.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
And I'm getting to a point Terry was the last contration.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm going to spend my money on antiques and arts.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
The last concert I went to was the Food Fighters
and three.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Okay, so Irene and John. I was ticket I was
a ticket scalps. So my job when I grew up
to put myself to college, I was the blacks guy
helping rock bands and anything to the Harvard Civic Center
to the East coast of things, when all everybody was touring,
I got a chance to do that, and so I
to this day, I didn't get a chance to see
(33:40):
the Who, even though I had two tickets. I was
busy scalping than the people, you know, seventy five dollars
one hundred and fifty dollars. And the reason I asked
that because now that I've caught up and I'm interviewing
these people, every person who's in the music business ses
the same thing. Our job is to help support you
guys because most people aren't going into concerts anymore. It's
a hard time to see it. And before we go
(34:02):
to this trailer, real quick, Iren, what's the last concert
you went to? Because you guys both know you woost
this is your livelihood right right?
Speaker 9 (34:10):
Well, I was last year to the Rolling Stones in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
What was that luck for you?
Speaker 13 (34:19):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (34:20):
It's fantastic there, rock I think, yeah, absolutely, how cool.
I mean if you stripped everything from them, all the
and fare, they're still they know that rock and roll.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Hey, John, And after we show this this clip, I'm
going to come to you and ask you the same thing.
All right, just take a look at this and I'll
tell you why, because it goes into how bands started.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right now, I'm like to meet some people. You probably know.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Them better as the zombiees.
Speaker 13 (34:52):
I've never worked out if the zombies are lucky or
unlucky because we were around at the right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Time, so no one told me. Some groups of people
just click it was luck. Really did you make these
five people?
Speaker 11 (35:06):
Well, it sounds different, you know, totally different to the fact.
We wanted to be a bit more adventurous, do something
exciting and different.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
We just kept feeding off each other the creatively. It
sounded really quite special.
Speaker 10 (35:23):
One of our favorite songs.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Ever after the recording of this album songs broke up.
It was really unfortunate what happened to us.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Someone was making fortunate it only one was nice.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's a legacy left the fine and it's a legacy
that will go on.
Speaker 11 (35:43):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now. John. The reason why I want to show that
because I'm going to talk to the zombies. None of
them played musical instruments. They just put themselves together like
you used to do in the old days. So like
how John von Jovi started, which is interesting if you
ever seen his story, and it's one of those things.
People don't do that tomorrow these days. They just said,
and I think that maybe one of the things you
were talking about. And it's really sad because where can
(36:10):
you go see people perform. We're supposed to be out
there helping support the arts, right John.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 13 (36:17):
And here outside of Vegas where I live, you know,
we have a large tribute bands. You know, you're talking
about the last band I've seen. I went to go
see Michael Jackson. And you know, even though they're not
the original, they are excellent tribute bands, all kinds that
(36:39):
I've had an opportunity to see, and all of them
are top notch. Uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
They that's really professionalism, you.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Know, Irene or when it comes to uh, you know,
you're more of a single performer. But still it's a
lot of work of what you go into writing these songs.
And I know what Rachel works on, Rachel Caine, because
she's great with what she does, you know, starting out
of Chicago, putting all this stuff together in the early eighties. Man,
And I'm gonna get her on the show because we
like her, she likes us. What she's put together attracts
(37:11):
Records is just fabulous.
Speaker 9 (37:13):
I know she's a great little performer too. And when
I was listening with John was saying about impersonators per
se uh to the name stars like Michael Jackson. There's
a show out in Las Vegas called The Legends and
they have Sharon Elvis, you know all of them, Adele
(37:35):
and those people are fantastic.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah, Rebel, you were going to say something, Rebel, No,
not me, okay, and we'll show the next slip. John.
When you were growing up, who were your influences is?
I was always been curious about this because of how
you perform, on what you write and thing well.
Speaker 13 (37:55):
Very young, I was very fortunate. Sammy Davis Junior was
worming a hair as at Lake Tahoe and the friend
of mine was the stage manager and she asked if
I would like to see Sammy Davis Junior, and I
said absolutely, And I got to go backstage and stand
in the wings and watch Sammy Davis Junior. The most
(38:19):
incredible performer anywhere. But to see him live, it's different
than you watch him on TV. There's a big difference.
And that's with any performer. You know, you can see
them live, but when you see them in person, there's
a whole different energy. And he was one of my
first And of course I loved the rat Pack. I
(38:40):
love show tunes, and I love all kinds of music.
You know, I got into rock and roll, but I
love the Lownes main showroom type of performance where you
come out you as an entertainer and individual and converse
with the audience. That's real craft that takes years sometimes
(39:02):
to learn that. I've played just with me and a guitar.
I've played with little combos, and I've played with orchestras.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And each one has its own.
Speaker 13 (39:12):
Ability to accommodate what your style is, and I've been
fortunate to have to be able to do that.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And Irene, who did who did you like? When you
were going up? And we're going to show this next flip?
Dad are Well.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
I also like Sammy Davis Junior. I think he was
the best entertainer ever. I liked Tenny Rogers too, very
different worse friends always.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
I was never a big fan of Dean Martin's for
some reason.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
I don't know why, Why did he try to hit
on you?
Speaker 13 (39:50):
No?
Speaker 10 (39:51):
But I knew him pretty well. I knew them pretty well.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
I at one time used to take mister Sinatra's manager,
which who was, And so I used to tell around
with him quite a bit. And so I got a
lot of exposure and experience when I was doing that,
and it was quite a time of life for me.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I learned a lot. All right, let's take a look
at this, because I think everybody had, If this is
the thing that I think it is, I think everybody
had a piece of this art. Hi, everybody, and welcome
to the world of Thomas Kincaid.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And I have about twenty of his paintings.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Paintings brought me one hundred and seventy five yars.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Paintings.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, way too many. Art is something for everyone. Nineteen thousand,
the company was breaking one hundred million for what was
being sold.
Speaker 13 (40:48):
That was unheard of.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
People were buying not just a painting, they were buying
a piece of Thomas Kincaid, which involved a.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Performance as a high as Christian God bless me. He
was like a holy man.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I'm not going to fall dictum to the same crises
that you see.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
And so many people who get put in the public,
IM that won't happen to me.
Speaker 13 (41:21):
People who described him as a Jacqueline Hide, Christian painter
of light by day, raging strip club, attending out of control,
drunk by night.
Speaker 9 (41:31):
He had it all and he threw it away.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
We knew that the ball existed, but I don't remember
ever really in there.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Oh, severity made these.
Speaker 9 (41:52):
Wow, you could say Thomas Kincaid was a performance artist
and he created his greatest performance art piece in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
All right, Howard, I'm going to go to you, since
sure there the art collector of everything. Uh, did you
ever collect any of kin Kid's art or that wasn't
for you?
Speaker 9 (42:15):
Know?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
I had a customer that bought went over the sofa.
I've always thought of it almost like Christmas cards. They're
they're a little bit yimmicky to me.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Yeah, And I.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
Mean the the thing about art, you want to do
something creative, different instead of new movement.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
This was just a little bit, like I said, two
Christmas cards looking for me.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I wanted to know what you thought about that, because
this movie comes out and almost everybody had one and
I didn't know anything about it. But it's the fascinating
documentary and it's interesting. And then they sold him.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
They sold him in the mall at.
Speaker 6 (42:50):
The time, so anybody. So, I mean, they're right, they
sold a lot, but a lot doesn't make them famous.
The fewer they have and the more notoriety gives it
more money. Of course, as far as investor goes, and
Pepper give.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
An introduction to who you are real quick, and we're
gonna showed this, but actually and then Pepper will come
back to you. Okay, okay, all right, go ahead, Red
Rock Packing Company, Bred General Artie.
Speaker 16 (43:21):
Y'all you hang up about of that trap is all
has done.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I think he was the number one band in the country.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
No other band was imitate, no other band had this notch,
And I.
Speaker 11 (43:33):
Fell in love with the man, saying one nighter's uh
having the screaming jitterbugs, who, after all, did make him.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
There's no doubt the event. But Artie is far too intellectually,
he's far too pragmatic a man, far too serious a musician.
Speaker 9 (43:51):
In those days, press presented the fact that he was
telling the people off, and he said, I don't want
to play.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
For people that want listen to me.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
One night, I remember taking a walk to Central Park
with a friend of mine and I said to her,
see all those lights up there in those buildings and
she said yeah, and I said, well behind everyone those
lights as a person, and someday all of those people
don't know my name.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
The reason I wanted to show this Irene and Pepper
and Howard is because this one best feature documentary nineteen
eighty seven at the Oscars. I never saw this documentary,
but it's coming back in four K, so it's for
that new audience. And I when I when I watched it,
I'm like, this is a great documentary. And I had
the chance to meet him at the Beverly Hills Friars Club,
(44:57):
and I never did because I didn't know anything about him,
and I just wish that I did because it's a
fascinating story. I mean, did you get a chance to
ever meet Artie Shaw?
Speaker 9 (45:06):
I did that, but one of my vocal coaches, who's
also a player like Artie gets his hero.
Speaker 13 (45:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (45:16):
His name is Michael Lyric, and he said, always watch
Artie Shaw.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
He was such a great musician. But I never did
meet him.
Speaker 10 (45:24):
Unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Great documentary. You know, I will send you the length
of your friend if you wanted. And Pepper J we
got to talk about you because you've got an interesting
history that a lot of people don't know. Tell everybody
who you are and what you're doing with John Michael.
Speaker 16 (45:38):
Ferr I am Pepper j I'm a music producer and
I've been producing John Michael Ferrari and his songs for
more than thirty five years. And I have a couple
other artists that are doing very well, including Sophie Loves
and you know Sophie and Life Like Bluesy Rocker, and
(46:00):
I just love making music at every level of it,
from lyrics to arrangements to phraseology, and I enjoy it,
and I really enjoy It's been a fun ride working
with John Michael Ferrari because of all the awards and
the radio charts, and he's humble.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
You could talk to him for eight hours and.
Speaker 16 (46:19):
Not known that he's been Songwriter of the Year and
Crosser rovers of the Year and Radio Artists of the Year.
He just anyway, he's humbling. It's been a real nice trip.
Thanks for asking, Brian.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well again it goes back to you again, the women
here minus me and Howard if I weren't women. I mean,
there's a lot of great things that you just don't
get enough credit. And so congratulations with that. And so Pepper,
did you ever meet Artie Shaw at all.
Speaker 16 (46:46):
No, I did not, But I've always been a big
fan of that era and we've enjoyed it when some
of John's songs almost look like piece of it pieces
that it could come from that type of especially the
harmonies and what a great time.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Is all you have?
Speaker 16 (47:06):
Isn't that what the name of it was? How older
you get, the more you realize how important that is.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah, I think that's why I'm enjoying lyrics. Now, Hey, Rebel, well,
I mean, Rachel, we got one last wrong. Tell everybody
your social media links what you got coming up? Followed
by Howard, followed by Terry go ahead.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Okay, so my name is Rachel and Robberts.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
You can follow me on all social media platforms and
watched me in the morning by a show called Coffee Talk.
Rachel Roberts recipe is what's coming up? I have a
movie at the end of the month. I'm really excited.
It's a horror like and I know my character is
good because she doesn't die at the end, like oh my,
I guess.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
This is a pretty good role. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
Alick Howard Wiggins, Facebook and Horse Movies reviewing more. I'm
in a little movie recall without warning that it would
be out pretty soon. And then I'm in the voice
character of a book Nodule the Rabbit by Diane Farbird.
And uh and then I plan.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
To uh come September, I'm going to make some changes
and I'm going to uh probably get a book and
feature my own home in the book like most designers do.
So that's the plan I got for coming up that
you didn't even know about.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
And then you should. And then for everybody, that art
in the back is all his. It's all authentic. He's
been collecting it since twelve or sixteen years old. See
ever since Terry Marie tell him give you social media
links and everything.
Speaker 8 (48:35):
Terry Marie non stop on all platforms. I'm on TikTok stop.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
So watch me there.
Speaker 8 (48:42):
This is gonna the rest of this year is going
to be a little crazy. I'm going to surprise everybody.
So just keep keep an eye.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Out and Pepper give them any dates with John maybe
you know, maybe coming up performing and everything like that.
Speaker 16 (48:54):
Well, Thanks Brian, Johnmichael Ferrari dot com appreciate you coming
to visit. These are just some of the pictures that
happened lately. If you go to tour, Oh that's lovely.
I read lovely thank you on his website. Then now
you'll see where he's going to be. He's going to Alaska,
He's doing some touring in Europe, over in Atlanta, then
(49:19):
over in Nashville for the Joseie Awards, and I have
to stay there.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
That'd be great, and irene to get the last work.
Where can people check out your music and where you
might be performing next?
Speaker 9 (49:30):
Okay, so you can check out my music yet I
Readmichael's music dot com and I'll be doing some shows
for I Lean Shapiro and Jimmy Star Star pr and
Fire Island and some of the New York venues there
and the rave shows that are coming up pretty soon
this summer.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
No, I want to congratulate everybody from coming on. And
it was all about music and art as usual, which
is a good thing. So I always say this, thank
you everybody. It's not always easy putting everything together, and
so have a good night, tonight, better day tomorrow. You
see someone without a smile, please give them one of yours.
Listen to these artists music, support the arts, go and
(50:12):
see them on tour. And like I said, this is
movie reviews and more and we will see you next week.
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