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Speaker 2 (01:06):
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it's also Tuesday, and it is, it's a one hundred
and sixty live shows in a row in County. So
so the good thing about this is I've kind of
been waiting for this show too, not only because Stephanie's
on it, because you know, I think she was on
like three months ago, or I'm just goes quick care.
But It's one of those things where I knew Joe
is coming on. I'm like, can I squeeze him in?
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Is it about Stephanie? Well, it's always about women. But
I'm like, well they did meet, we can make it work,
and I'm like, let's do it. And so you just
never know when we're putting these things together because the
rest of all we are alive on Talk for Media
radio and k fo HD streaming also on Franklin, Tennessee.
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I T two four seven dot com and I'm over
one hundred dollars around the world. And yes, I had
a feeling we're gonna have one of these background noises
things going on because I expect the power to go
on on me. I hope it does not. I think
Howard may have some issues because now he's gotta be
upstairs because he's got things going on that major changes
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in his life for the better, which is always good.
Stephanie doesn't have her life because she would say something's
going on that she doesn't know where it is. And Joe, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Don't know what's going on, but he may have something
to do with all of this. But if anything, he
could just say a prayer and everything will be good.
And when it comes to narrow coaching, you know what
got to go with it. That's Carol's territory. But the
good thing about this, oh man, what do you start?
She's not founder, she that CEO. It's about love.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Seek well, I should say seek love llc right, step
all right, and I mean this book, this book, you
know what. I'm not even gonna introduce you. I want
you to talk about you, followed by Joe.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Ahead, you're in the darkness, but you have a lot
of light around you.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah, it's rather rainy in Saint Louis right now. But Howard, Ryan, Carol.
So good to be here with all three of you.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And yes, I had quite the love journey in my life.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
And by the time I was forty four, I had
been married and divorced twice, looking at myself in the marror,
sing what in the head just happened? And I decided
to throw myself into the study of relationships, what makes
them work? I had actually written a first book for
young women during COVID because I wanted to help my
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three daughters and leave a legacy for them. So I
wrote a book about helping young women attract healthy Relationships.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And then last.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Year Heather Marianna, who a lot of us know of
Marianna events, said Stephanie, you've got to have something at
the Academy Awards event in February at the celebrity gifting Lounge,
what do you.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Have for me?
Speaker 6 (04:16):
And I was like, you know, I have a second
book in me and that was the catalyst to write
Your Love Compass, a Woman's Unconventional Guide to Dating and
Relationships for middle aged women who have yet to find
the love of their life or who like me, got
divorced and did not want to mess up the next
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go around and attract something that they really desire and
deserve and something that they're worthy of. So even though
I have a twenty five year background in corporate America
and I do with I work with companies and I
coach companies and individuals, I had to follow this passion
project to help women. And it turns out now men
attract the love they deserve.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And you can't go wrong with that. Hunt, Carol, you
want to go to Joe and then go to Howard.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
I I am, as you have mentioned many times, Brian neurocoach, Carol,
I'm a certified neuro coach. I'm the creator of the
neurowealth method. And the cool thing about this is when
women have a gap, closing the door or jumping from
six to seven figures, that's what I do. That's what
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I'm here for to lean in and provide the way
to jump into greater wealth because great women deserve great
wealth for great impact. And this is a huge part
of my own journey and I love working with the women,
the fantastic women that I can work with. If you'd
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like to know more about this, please DM me. I
would love to talk with you. It is an.
Speaker 8 (05:54):
Immersive, exclusive private program looks for the bad Brian, as
I always say, Being here with you every week it's
been absolutely magical, as well as being able to co
host the Unleashed and Unstoppable podcast.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
Oh thanks for having me and.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Then Joe you know that intuitive hell is. I'm always
about heelers. I love my charman Jorya Delaney and the
new ones that have followed. I utilize all of them,
even Lisa out of Orange County. You know she will
call me and say, Brian, you got you got someone
coming in, don't you dare? Look for her? Just allowed
to come and let it come, and I said, Okay,
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I'm not looking, Everton, I'm not looking. We'll just go
with it, and I do so. Joe introduced yourself because
we met at a Heather's gift.
Speaker 9 (06:44):
The skid also sure, exactly, well, this is what it
looks like to be twenty six years past the expiration date.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Nine of the best doctors treating the condition.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
I had knew that I had less than a year
to live back in nineteen ninety nine, and luckily, like
my mom said, I didn't pay attend the rules then either,
and I met an incredible ballon master healer, and after
the second hour session with his students, I no longer
needed the oxygen which I was needing for almost two years,
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and after the third as completely healthy. I studied with
him for three and a half year solid. And then
also a friend took me to the reservation in Wisconsin,
and an elder took me aside there and I was
blessed to sit in a number of Native American ceremonies
and learn quite a bit.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And that's really where I connected.
Speaker 9 (07:31):
The spirit creator, and I can see the absolute best
things about everybody.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I can see your towns.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
Your gifts, why you were born, and I can see
all the blocks there as well. And for twenty six
years now, I've been helping people, actually, no, not twenty
four years. I've been helping people eliminate very very serious
pens and illnesses. And when I lived in Minnesota, the
male clinics started to get to know who Joe in
the Cities was because a lot of my clients would
go down there, they would get their diagnoses, and they
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would come to me and they would go back down
to the mail.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
And they wouldn't need the surgeries or the procedures. And
so that's what I like to do.
Speaker 9 (08:06):
And then, like Carol and Stephanie, I work a lot
with women, and I specialize in helping women recover from
abusive relationships and to be able to find their own
true desires, often for the very first time.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
And then helping them feel safe.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
In themselves, their body, their future, and really feel their
purpose and have the most fun they ever had.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You know, And as you would wag, it's it's called
supporting you. And as you would also say, unlock your
highest potential, right and I just love you. Got to
be in line that I you know, I talked to
Terry about this my co hosts. It is about your mind,
it is about your body, it is about the spirit,
it's about energy. Well, you don't have energy. Well you
don't have a lot of things going on. It's just
not going to work. I don't believe in that. It
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doesn't matter if you don't believe in that's that's what
universal law isn't control that.
Speaker 9 (08:55):
Yeah, and that's something too with a lot of people
think mindset mindset. Mindset is like, okay, I help you
after the mindset or before if you want. Because my
youngest plant was a six week old baby and my
oldest was a sixteen hand.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Pressure on, which is a huge horse.
Speaker 9 (09:10):
So pretty darn sure that neither of those guys had
any idea about mindset. So energy is energy, and it's
something where we have to be able to get that on,
you know, on the path to be able to have
things really onold.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, I love that.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
So I just want to say one of the things
being a neurocoach and using a neuroscience based process, we're
integrated beings, right. I love the quote by JFK where
he said a rising tide raises all boats and we're
not separated into these different parts when we go to
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work in any one area and we get into alignment,
all areas elevate, right. So I've actually been changing the
way that I say things instead of just brain and thought.
It's body, mind, spirit, it's all of us, it's frequency,
it's energy. So I really love what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Thanks.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
Yeah, there's I think there's too many people that are
treating their lives and their energy like jenga. They think
they can take apart here and take apart there and it's.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Not going to affect anything. But it's just like, no,
it does.
Speaker 9 (10:19):
Our bodies basically need the first, the second, the third,
or the chi wherever however you look at it, and
so we can't take those parts and say, ah, that
doesn't matter, or I've given that up, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And Stephanie knows it too. It's like when when.
Speaker 9 (10:31):
A woman says, oh, I've given up dating, I don't
need to do that, or you know, pleasure is too
much trouble.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
She knows. It's like, you know, danger, danger.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
They stoppani it all. I thought I could see it
on your face because I.
Speaker 10 (10:46):
Know where you could.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well maybe I don't know where you're coming from, but
bring it, Howard in for a while. How it introduced yourself.
Let's see what like ahead?
Speaker 11 (10:54):
All right, I'm Howard Wiggins, like says, I'm one of
the top world's thirty five interior designers. I created a
style called stacked and Layered. My newest thing is I'm
going to go to Chattanooga and I'm going to change
in my life again, start a new project. I'll keep
you all informed on it as it goes along. But uh,
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you know, life's and all these little segments of your life,
and I'm toward the end of it, but I'm going
to go out with the bang and what I'm planning to.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Do, I'll keep you forgot You're not near the end,
for crying out loud.
Speaker 10 (11:30):
Is kind of near the end. Not these.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
These days another quarter left, you know, That's right?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
With all the dancing you do, Howard.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
Yeah, but my knees are starting to hurt now.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But here's here's the thing, talking about energy, Stephanie. You know, Howard,
when you walk into the room, when you walk into
the dance floor, or someone sees you all there, automatically
attracted to you. Stephanie, when you were writing you know
you'll love compass. I don't know, well it was coming
from your experience of what you were coming from. But
I did a lot, a lot of energy. So we
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were talking weekly yesterday and a couple of things that
were going on, which I like, I love what you
were saying. Talk about that talk about being part of
def Drummonds three sixty two Mission accepted, because that's important.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Also.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
You know, when we decide with intention to try something new,
or to be brave, or to break out of a
current paradigm, the energy shifts. But it doesn't just shift
for us. It shifts in the world and it creates
like this ripple so that the people that are meant
to come into contact with you can help you along
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that new journey, that new intention. And when I decided
to leave Corporate America, I you know, I had a
sense of what I wanted to do and how I
wanted to coach, but I also had to take somewhat
of a trust fall. We have to do this with everything.
I mean, Howard's taking a trust fall right now at
age seventy two, which is amazing. Howard, congratulations, We're all
we're all taking trust balls and just we have to
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have faith that that web, that interconnected web that you
were just talking about, Carol, of humanity and spirituality is
going to catch us.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
And so deb was.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
One of those people many people on the show are
where our listeners are aware of depth Drummond her two
sixty two Women's Accepted Project, and I became a speaker
in her organization and a leader. And then she asked
me to be in her compilation book, which is an
incredible book filled with women and their entrepreneurial journeys but
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also journeys of survival of overcoming. And that book ended
up in the twenty twenty four Celebrity gift bag at
the Emmys in the fall of twenty twenty four, and
I got to go and represent that book, and that
launched this whole journey of getting exposed as a coach,
of meeting you, Brian, because then it was Heather, Heather,
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Marianna and dev and then meeting you, and then meeting
Carol and meeting Joe, and it just I even remarked
to my twenty two year old daughter this morning, he said, wow,
you know, Carol, I think I hung up on our call.
And I looked at my daughter and I said, in
two and a half years I had just met May
this incredible network of people who are contributing to my
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journey and my vision. And so as I love a
dating coach, you know, I want women and men to
know when you decide to be courageous, when you decide
to put it out there what it is you really
do want, and you give a little bit of.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Trust the right people.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
It could be a random cousin you haven't seen in
years who sees you and says, you know, I never
thought about this woman for you, but I.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Think I should introduce you.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
You know, we're called to help each other because we're
all connected with that energy.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Yet you know, Stephanie, it's super interesting too because the
minute that in complete alignment with what you're saying, the
minute that you took the action, the trustfall action. I
like that word. That's a really interesting word, and I'd
love to hear more about why you chose that word
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that you literally said, once you made the decision, before
you did any other action, you automatically experienced a shift
in that moment. I'd love for you to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
I love what you call out, Carol, like the trustfall,
because I don't know why I picked that word, maybe
consciously but I think for me it represents a letting
go of the how. I think as humans we really
try to control the outcome, and we can talk ourselves
out of something absolutely miraculous because we can't see the how.
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We can't see how it would possibly happen. So I
think back to those early camp days as a kid,
you know, or you would do the trust fall at
the Girl Scouts or whatever, and everyone would catch you.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
And I think it could be a beautiful analogy of letting.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Go of the how and just having the trust and
faith that if your intentions are good and they're coming
from a good place and they do no harm to others,
and in fact they add to others, that you will
be caught. There will be arms and energy to catch you.
So I think that's probably why it came to mind. Carol,
great question.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I love that.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
I like it, you know, because Napoleon Hill talks about
it that way, Wallace Wadall talks about it that way,
you know, Nevil Goddard. They all talk about the fact
that once you can actually really give in to the
Creator is going to be there, and that you trust
and Creator, and that you and Creator have decided to
be like that then everything can be possible.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's awesome, beautiful.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
I'm experiencing that right now because since I made my
decision to do what I'm doing, every day I wake
up and somebody is connecting that's going to help me,
or I think of an idea or something that just
it just keeps pointing in that direction. You made the
right choice. I mean it just I'm getting connected to people,
things are happening. It's like I know I made the
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right decision because it's changing every day toward that direct.
Speaker 10 (17:07):
So you're right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I couldn't be happier for you, Howard So So I
love these photos.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
It's a lot of headshots.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
He's got it in a minute. I wanted to get
to these photos because I love these photos of her.
And the reason why I bring this up. First of all, Carol,
I forgot. Usually Carol will remind me. We got to
think easy Way, easy Way Family, easy Way podcast, easy
Way TV Worldwide, and Joe is on that. He'll talk
about that in a minute. But when I walked into
the gift the Sweet I saw, uh Carol Gossam, who
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was on our show last week. Herb stood out. It
was all yellow and and Stephanie's her book. I see
her book first and then I see her Her book
just stands out. It's magnificent. And these pictures just add
And I love that one of your daughter because I'm like, wow,
she's got a great looking you know, I think I've
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seen one picture of the daughter. I think, but they
were like, it's just like a mirror reflection of you.
And there's deb drumming. And obviously with Joe's photos on,
I love him and he's going to talk more about
what happened to him to where he is today. But
debb take it away with I mean, I'm sorry stuff,
and he taken away from this because you've been doing
a lot of things and I didn't call you on
purpose because I knew you were having fun taking your
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trip and just being with your family and I thought
that was great.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Oh thanks, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
My one picture of my middle daughter, and I started
a tradition with my three girls that I love that
I thank you. I take them somewhere special for their
sixteenth birthday. So that was shot in turks and Keikos
in May for her sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
And you know, we can.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Create the lives that we want. And I think when
my daughters were younger. I was a very involved mom,
but I wasn't intentionally co creating for them with them,
and I started to lean in as when my oldest
turned fifteen, to just ask her what.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Do you really want?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Because no one had ever asked me that I was
the would follower, the people pleaserer, the I'll do everything
right and perfect. I'm part of Carol's coaching group. I'm
really proud to say that. And I will say that
she can probably tell that I'm like the people, like
it's in me right and there are a lot of
us who are born to kind of please, and so
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we sometimes it doesn't happen till middle life, or we say,
wait a minute, what is it that I want? And
so I appreciate you, you know, letting me share some
pictures of my family, Brian, because I wanted to be
intentional with my daughters. I want them to know early
on that they do have influence and can co create
their destiny. Even though my youngest is twelve, she's like,
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what kind of power do I have? And then we
actually talk about, well, what kind of power do you have?
And little and then she starts to realize, oh wow,
I've got power just to decide how I feel when
I wake up, and I'm going to show up in
the world in sixth grade.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
So that's been beautiful. And then there is a picture
of my partner, Joe.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You know, after those those two divorces, I decided to
get deliberate about what I wanted and what I deserved.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
And carefully crafted that. And that's what I teach to women.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
And it's always still a surprise, you know that it's
not that you put a create this woman in a
box or a man in the box who's the perfect partner.
Nobody's perfect, but you draw in the the perfect compliment
to you who will help you grow when you really
start to do the work of peeling back who you are.
And so Joe's been now with me. Not this Joe,
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Joe Petrowski's wonderful. But I met my Joe four and
a half years ago and so we've been together ever since.
And it's sometimes I still weep because he's so kind
to me. And I deliberately asked for kind but I
didn't know how much I was missing kind in my
whole life.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh that's a that's a good one. I got to
put that in my on my list too, because those
things so important, isn't it, Joe, isn't it? Still knows
this too, And I, you know, I'm going to pick
on Terry because she's not here, because of what she's
going through. Terry, You're going to be fine financially, never
mind that it's what you need to have attracted to
you stop focusing on the negative and just be open
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and recept it to just good things coming away. And
because the more you focus on something, the more it
magnifies and and and intensifies, right.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Joe, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
But as Stephanie was talking about desire and really connection
to it, most women rate themselves fifth in the order
of importance. They're going to have their significant of their children,
their career, their pets, and then themselves. And so yes,
most of the clients that I have, they're, you know,
in their fifties and sixties.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Where I asked him what's your desire?
Speaker 9 (21:44):
And if they can't mention their kids, if they can't
mention their loved ones or their family, they don't know.
And so it's really good that Stephanie is pointing out
it's like, Okay, you got to come in here for
a little bit, it's like.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
What is my desire? What do I really want to
be able to create and attract?
Speaker 9 (21:59):
And it's really kind of a scary question sometimes because
people have never done that, especially women.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Women have been you You have to serve everybody else,
You have to answer everybody.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Else's questions first. And so yeah, that's you know, putting
it out there. And this is the part where when
people say, oh, just do your affirmation, it's like, okay, well,
hold on a second, what the heck is in between
what's that block in between your heart, your creation and
the things that you desire?
Speaker 4 (22:26):
We have to get rid of that.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Yeah, oh, we have to connect, Joe. We have to
connect because one of the first things that I do, Stephanie,
I'll tell you in the program is we look at
vision from a bunch of different angles, from a bunch
of perspectives, because we're multifaceted people, right, And it's really
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easy just to say, oh, I have a vision or
a dream without realizing that there's different aspects and facets
are that's going to bring even more clarity. And you know,
the affirmations too. We take a really unique approach rather
than just doing affirmations and repeating those because, as you're
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well aware, I can't wait to talk with you even further.
It's it's something where we can easily be putting in
somebody else's plan over our life, somebody else's voice over
our life. We can easily be wiring in cognitive bias
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without even realizing it, and then our brain's going, wait.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Which way do I go?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
And and our whole body, our whole system, our spirit
as well. Want to keep practicing speaking into that because
that's truly what I believe. But I think that's so
important to let us know that clarifying and looking and
defining things is so powerful and interesting. And how important
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is it that we put ourselves as women fifth on
the list? Like it's amazing to me.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Yeah, what about options?
Speaker 11 (24:10):
Because I think every day you have an option to
go left, right, whatever you want to do. And sometimes
when you're own a path and you just keep following
that path, you need to get off that take another
path and see what that income is, what that outcome is,
not the outcome is, And if you're on the right path,
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it seems like it's guiding you rather than you're trying
to god it.
Speaker 10 (24:36):
You know, it's it's directing you to go that direction.
Speaker 11 (24:40):
But I think a lot of women, like you said,
they're trying to be a mother or a wife and
all these things, and they're not listening to their path.
But your body and your soul is telling.
Speaker 10 (24:51):
You you should do.
Speaker 11 (24:52):
You're listening to what you're expected to do or what
you think you ought to do, rather than what you
want to do. I do a lot of cells and
I tell people all the time, I don't like Pinterest
and things like that, because what happens is Pinterest is
like everybody's saying this is what you should do, this
is what you gotta follow. But I tell my clients
it's like and talk to mainly women. So I said,
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if you wanted to go to a ball and you
wanted a red dress, you're only looking at red dresses
and you're looking for that.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
That may or may not exist.
Speaker 11 (25:24):
There may be a beautiful blue or purple or something
that looks fabulous on you, but you will not see
it because you're not opening your eyes to see all
the possibilities and what's the best. You're focusing on what
you think you ought to get rather than what your
options are to get.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
That's the same type of scenario.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
Yeah, hidden in plain sight, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And how we talk about your relationship with your wife.
Speaker 11 (25:50):
My wife's very complimented. We're so much alike. We've been
together nearly fifty years. I can go shop. I can
go shopping, and I can she's a little bit handicapped,
so sometimes I go in first and I'll go around
looking because I have to get her out of the car.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
I'd be darned. I could go anywhere.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
I could say, out of a thousand things in the shop,
I like two things, not tell her anything about it,
and she comes in with me.
Speaker 10 (26:16):
She'll pick those exact same things.
Speaker 11 (26:18):
You know, we're so compatible and so much know how
each other thinks, and we talk all the time. You know,
of course we're our best friends. So it's just just
a part of you. I mean that comes with relationships
and being with somebody for a long time and you
know how they think. So I think that's what that is.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Definitely, we've started to talk a little bit about the
future book that you're going to write and be writing
for men, and you talk about a little bit of them.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
So it's starting with So I've had more and more
men coming to me just in my community, people i'm
connected to saying, hey, you know, I'm forty five, I'm fifty.
I'm fifty five, and I didn't think that I would
be having to date at this age. Right they're divorced
or unfortunately their spouse passed away, or just I know
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several men who still have never met a woman. And
you know, isn't blessed like Howard and his wife. And
so I've realized, Okay, I can take the same principles
where spiritual beings having a human experience. So I can
take these same principles that I teach women, but shift
them into masculine. The masculine needs the masculine energy, which
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I've actually spent many years studying. The Man Talks podcast
is a really good one with Connor Beaton. He really
delves into spiritual things about men, and so I've followed
him and listened to him for years and others. And
so now I'm putting I'm starting Brian with a putting
together a group of men who said, I don't mind
being in a group. I kind of want to hear
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what the other guys are saying. Stephanie. I want to
I want to learn from you I'm good with being
in a group. I mean, these are some emotionally intelligent men.
They are emotionally intelligent enough to say I need some
help because what I'm doing isn't working and I'm lonely
and i really want companionship. So I'm going to start
with that, Brian, and I'm going to let that be
a grounds for research, and then I think that will inform,
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hopefully a very intelligent and insightful book for men from
a woman's perspective, working with men in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
That would be the goal.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
So you've put it out there, Brian. You put it
out there. You just threw it down.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I liked it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I really do like it. I might even join that
men's group. I'd like to hear what they'd have to say,
you know. And the reason why I say that because
I've always been married to my career. I've always said this,
I was a married bachelor to my career. Now I'm
putting that aside because of the goals that we achieve.
And by the way, we reached eight hundred million views
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eight hundred and four and forty two views to July eighth,
and the only reason I was counting because the last
time I did the number was in April, was because
Howard could kind of put it into my head. And
he has been talking about what's been moving because he
texts me something, did you say something about me? Because
something's been going on. I said, we're always talking about everybody.
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And I have always said that you never know who's
listening around the world, because but they do chime in
and they tell me from different versions of people around
the world, and I think that's great. And Carol, here's
that because when you come on our movie reviews and more,
you're supposed to get something out of us. Sometimes it's
the second time, sometimes it's a lot of times it's
the first time. But sometimes it's the third time, and
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then you become part of the more part of what
we're doing. Joy Joe talk about this. We have a
lot of people that have had loss. Terry's lost her mom,
so I talked last night. I talked to her for
like an hour. I'm three hours ahead. R I'm in Charlotte,
North Carolina right now. Talk about people that experience in
Greek you get older, a lot of people are going
to things right now.
Speaker 9 (29:58):
What do you say, well of things? Is that we
have to really remember that we are all of our ages.
We're that one year old child, that two year old child,
the three year old, the eighteen year old, all the way,
all the different ages. And so when we have an
event and we think that it's happening today, it's triggering
all the times that were anything like it, any other
loss that we had, and so we have to be
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able to be really really patient and then but go
underneath it and it's like, Okay, what's the real thing
that's hurting me real bad? And you know, so thinking
about it, it's like, what's the loss that I feel?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And that's something that takes a little bit of digging.
Speaker 9 (30:34):
But when you understand, Okay, yes my mom has passed. Okay,
but you know, what is the epe that's in there?
And there's going to be a belief? What's the belief?
And it's like, I'm never going to find anybody that's
going to be able to listen to me again. You know,
I'm never going to be able to find anybody that
understands me again. When and when we can look at
that and we can say it's like okay, hey, chill,
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you're going to be okay, that's when we can actually
start to do the repair. But if we sit there
and because I know somebody that's completely totally hung up
on her husband's grief, and she's a wonderful woman, very
very successful, but everybody is just dropping away because the
only thing that she can do is she just always
relates it to her husband's greed. And I'm just like,
it's not about your husband. It's something where you just
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don't know if you'll ever be able to have somebody
sit shoulder to shoulder with you and really get you.
And I said, that goes all the way back to
when you're a kid, when nobody understood you.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
So we have to be able to heal that.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
So today's experience is not that bad, and it's a
really interesting way to look at it, and it doesn't
by any way minimize the true loss of her husband,
but we want to look to see it's like, Okay,
you're an incredible go get her. There's not a darn
thing that you cannot accomplish. You help loads and loads
of other people accomplish. As you know, middle manager that
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went higher. Everybody relies on you. So what's up in here?
What's the thing that's missing and having the guts to
look at that. That's what the change can happen.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
And you can also you can also experience loss from
a relationship, right, Stephanie. And a lot of times people
they'll be hung up on that and they won't be
able to meet that other person because for the same
thing that Joe, same reason was just talking about. That
happens that way too, right, it does.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I mean, Joe, please add but I know that I
didn't properly warn my first marriage ending.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I just put on my can do face. I've got this.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
I'm a mom a you know, I had a daughter,
we had a daughter together, and I'll be strong and
I'll throw myself into my career. And then as I
went and started dating again, I married my second husband
looked completely different from my first husband on the outside.
But basically what I did was repeat a pattern because
I hadn't healed, I hadn't properly mourned it.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
I hadn't properly let go of what I needed to go,
let go and really dig into the learning.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Joe, I'd love for you to expand on that, because
there are men and women alike who repeat those same
relationship cycles. Even though the next partner they choose looks different, right,
maybe they have a completely different career, different background, But
it's a cycle that repeats.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Could you elaborate on that.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
So, yeah, a number of years ago I actually ended
in engagement.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I called it quits. And two weeks after I had
called it quits and ended it.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
I was crying and I was losing weight, couldn't eat,
and I was looking in the mirror and it was like, Okay,
I know this feeling. I know this feeling. What is
it that I'm feeling. Why am I upset? Because I
knew that it had to end. And I looked in
the mirror and I kept on asking, It's like, what
is this feeling? And all of a sudden and I
traced it back all of.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
My relationships, all of my relationships.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
The women love me like crazy until they abandoned me
or betrayed me. And I was and so I traced
it back, you know, It's like, oh my god, And
I got all the way to the point when I
was four years old, when there was a time that
my mom I was hurt everything. My dad worked on
the road, and so when he was gone, I did everything.
We had tea together ironed the clothes with her, I
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went with her girlfriends, I did shopping, and then when
my dad came home, she just ignored me completely. She
literally just shoved me out of the chair and I
was no more. I was nothing, I didn't matter, and
I was completely oblivious. And then you know, it was
something else that when my dad wanted more affection than
she was willing to give at the time, she found
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a way that she would actually tell my dad that
I had done something wrong, so she would betray me.
And she loved me until she betrayed me. And I
found that that was a key in my relationship. And
so when we continue to date the same person in
different packages, we got to find out what that original
wound is. What the heck was the magnet in me
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that continued to attract incredible people that loved me like
crazy and abandoned me and betrayed me. And it was hard,
but once I did it, then life started to go
so much more. And when I worked with my clients too,
if they're willing to look at that, I think of.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
One right now.
Speaker 9 (35:04):
She's off having the time of her life traveling all
over Europe with this man that just totally worships her,
and she never believed that she was worth time. She
never believed that she was worth being heard. And she
loves to talk about history. She loves to discover and
she loves to talk about it. But she never found
somebody until she had the guts to say I'm worthy
(35:25):
of being listened to. Now she's having the time of
her life. I can see you, Carol, What do you
want to add? You're taking let you You're saying a
lot of stuff with that.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm you're you're really touching on
some deep things here for me and my own life.
I lost my brother to suicide in February, and he was,
you know, wealthy, successful, all the things, right. Talk about
(35:54):
money doesn't buy happiness. It magnifies who you are, so
it it really you know, with the grief that's still
going on. What you're touching back on is abandonment, is rejection.
I feel abandoned by him, like I can't go to
him anymore and talk about, you know, questions I wanted
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to ask him, learning that I did from him, you know,
having him as a friend and a consult and loving
him dearly as my baby brother. So yeah, that's That's
what's coming up for me right now as you're saying
these things, is you know, looking back at what's underneath this,
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what's that that thought, what's that belief that's going on?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Yeah, and these are the things that you know. We
think logically, and what I.
Speaker 9 (36:48):
Tell my clients a lot of times, we need to
discover what we don't know that we don't know because
all of your wonderful learning, your mindsets, your affirmation, everything
that you've done to project yourself.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
And this life has gotten you to now.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
But there's something that we don't know that we don't
know that's holding us back.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And how can we discover that?
Speaker 9 (37:08):
And once we do the it gets so much easier,
The load is so much lighter, and then we can actually,
you know, have everything that we really have wanted and
can even see more than we ever thought we wanted.
Speaker 11 (37:23):
I have a simpler prology. I think people come in
and out of your life for a reason. Just like
we get older, we learn from our mistakes and we
can correct them. If you went through a divorce, there
was a reason, it was a growing What did you
learn from it? What can you change about it? Don't
analyze it? Where it's making you feel bad, just move on.
(37:45):
And I've always said if somebody betrays me, that's it.
I don't have to like them after that and grop
them out of my life. If you're not helping, not
necessarily helping me, but bringing me anguige or brief into
my life, I don't need you in my life.
Speaker 10 (38:02):
You know the old expressions. Surround you yourself.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
With people you admire, people you want to be like.
Become the person that you admire. If you hang on
to somebody that's bringing you down, you don't need to
just let it go.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
It's definitely ask you just about younger, younger people, especially
younger women, and I'm looking at the ages of sixteen
to twenty six, twenty seven, what they're going to. A
lot of them for three to five years, grew up
being a little bit isolated. Now dating is strange. It's
not like we can go to the movies these days.
(38:39):
It's not like we can go and hang out at
the mall. To the places where we would go and
gather in groups don't really exist anymore. Movie theaters that
they're not going to come back, especially with streaming and malls.
You know, when I go to Mall's class County. I
specifically go I want to see for myself. Man, when
I see between twelve and twenty three buildings for lease
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used to have marshals or sears and all that stuff.
Girls would just go to meet They go other by
guys or boys. It doesn't exist anymore. What are you
seeing and what's your advice for them?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, we have a lot of young women and young
men who they're all about, well, depending on when how
old they were, middle school, high school. During COVID, their
phones and social media literally became their lifeline.
Speaker 12 (39:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Sometimes we're hard in our generation here generations and say
you're always on your phone, but there were studies done
that when the phone was taken away during COVID, kids
literally felt cut off from the world. So while social
media can cause and there's evidence of it causing depression
(39:52):
in teens and gosh people our age, right, depending on
how you use social media, these kids you are experiencing
a new way of operating in the world through technology.
So what's interesting is that I'm seeing in my daughters,
especially my sixteen year old and even my twenty two
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year old because she was in high school during COVID,
they date differently. There's a lot of this like snapchat
and posting photos and quick little chats, which is fine
in some ways because they're actually kind of getting to
know each other through words more than like the physical hangout.
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But then I'm seeing that boys don't necessarily know how
to approach girls, Like I've watched my sixteen year old
have this entire eighteen month relationship with a seventeen year
old and I think they had gone out on three
dates in eighteen months.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
It's all on the own, it's all on face time.
So it's a weird. It's a weird thing.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
And there are still young men who are raised by
moms and dads who say, no, you call up the
girl and you actually ask her her out. But now
we've got safety, right, So do you really want the
boy picking your daughter up in the car or do
you want them instead to get to know each other
through the social chats. It's very different how they're approaching.
(41:15):
So I'm looking at how am I going to coach
these kids as they come up, and I think it's
still expressing what you want. So I did tell my
little daughter, I'm like, look, at some point, you have
a right to say I need to be in person
with you, like I do deserve to meet you for dinner,
or I do deserve to grab a coffee with you
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and have that physical interaction because it's very tough to
have a full loan relationship.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
On the phone.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, and also real quick talk about where you're both
of your books and where people can get them.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Oh, thank you?
Speaker 6 (41:51):
Okay, So I use the compass theme in both of
my books. The first one is for young women ages
eighteen to about twenty seven. That is The Love Compass,
A Girl's Guide to Finding Authentic Love. So that's Girls,
white paperback on Amazon. And then the big one is
the one the picture that Brian put up thank you
(42:13):
is there you go, Your Love Compass, A Woman's on
conventional guys.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I just loved the colors of that. They just span out.
It's just this beautiful thank you.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
There's a lot of work behind it.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
Yeah, very striking. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Just go to Amazon and I hope.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
I mean, it's the cheapest dating coaching you can get,
and it's very impactful.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Joe talk about energy. I just love that book. I
could stare at that for days.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
It's just it's a great book. It's a great book
I've read.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Talk about energy and where you see what people need
because being locked down, and then you know bake House
and then deb a lot of us connected different ways,
which was nice. I loved how you you gave a prayer,
an energy healing prayer at the start of the Oscar
gift things with to have Heather Mariana's event, and I
(43:02):
thought that was great talk about that and why faith
and prayer is still important.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Our intention is the biggest thing. And I knew that
there was I knew that there was people from all
types of different religions that were there, and so I
talk creator spirit because that leaves it open to your interpretation.
But with the togetherness when you talked about dating, it's
more than just the dating and the energy.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
The reason that.
Speaker 9 (43:28):
They had six feet had nothing to do with biology. Okay,
when I was sick, I had to fight nine and
a half years, and I was going to doctors for
six and a half years regularly. I had to learn
so much about the human body that I can easily
debate doctors very very often, and I know a whole
lot more about what's going on. The six feet had
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nothing to do with biology. It had to do with
your aura. Most people's aura's end at that point when
you get closer than six feet, you start to feel
that connection. And unfortunately, even now for people that are
huggers and stuff like that, most people are still hugging
differently because there's still that little bit of fear in there,
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that subconscious thing that we had drilled into our head
for all of those years. You're going to kill somebody.
Somebody's going to kill you, and don't do it. You're
breaking the law.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
I mean, I had.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
A sheriff put his hand on his gun because I
went to give a friend of mine a hug at
the beach in fresh Air, you know, and I'm just like,
oh my god.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
So you know.
Speaker 9 (44:32):
So that's about how do we come in and really
bring the connection and the kids when they're on the
you know, the phone and stuff like that. What it
is is there's still this part of being freight. Nobody's
going to be there for me, so why.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
Should I get close?
Speaker 9 (44:46):
Okay, because when I needed people there, I couldn't see anybody,
so I had to be on my own.
Speaker 12 (44:51):
I had to push people away. Now date me and
love me. It's like, okay, we have to be able
to bridge over that gap. We have to be able
to get past that. It's like, how can I see you?
How can I feel you? How can I trust you?
Speaker 9 (45:04):
In all of those If you look at heartbat dot org,
they're asking those questions and it is freaking people out.
Bruce Lipton talks about this and is talking about epigenetics
and stuff like that. How do we come back to
connecting with each other? And you know, so it's something
we have to know our own selves. We have to
come into our intuition.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
We have to be able to come into our who
am I? How do I feel? What do I think?
What do I need?
Speaker 9 (45:28):
And when I have those questions answered, then I'm going
to be able to talk with other people.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I'm going to be able to communicate with other people.
I'm going to be able to ask of other people,
and I'm going to be able to be there.
Speaker 9 (45:38):
But I have to know who I am, what my
thoughts are, what my needs are? You know, and you
know Howard he talked about this, It's like he and
his wife have this connection, this community, the decision to
you matter and by doing that, that's how he's created
such success. You know, it was beautiful to listen to
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him talk about.
Speaker 10 (45:59):
That I have to go back to.
Speaker 11 (46:01):
I think that has to go with self love and
knowing who you are. And I remember when I met
my life. I don't deny it. I'm very materialistic, always
have been. It's not going to change.
Speaker 10 (46:12):
And I remember my wife.
Speaker 11 (46:15):
Our first date was to Cheekwood, which is a beautiful
mansion here in Nashville, and we looked at art, we
went through the garden together, and then I brought her home.
Her father said at that and she was in her
twenties when I brought her home to her father, she said,
He said, I've never seen you any happier than you
are now because you found somebody and I did too,
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that had my likes. I'm not pretending to be somebody
that I want that I'm expected to be.
Speaker 10 (46:42):
For you, I am me, you are you and we clicked.
So it's like you're not putting on her facade. You're
not being who you who you not. You are who
you are, and you're accepted for who you are.
Speaker 11 (46:54):
So you find somebody that shares that love and interest
with you. You're not being faith. You're of genuine so
it will come to you. You know, I'm not that
person that I think the girl wants me to be.
I am who I am and she's who she is,
and we both like each other, love each other. So yeah,
social media, it's Howard Wigans, Facebook, Howard Wiggins Twitter, and
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of course movies reviews and more.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
And just follow me, Stephanie, say, are you were going
to say something?
Speaker 7 (47:23):
Well?
Speaker 6 (47:23):
I was going to riff on what Howard said. I
have a chapter in the book and in my coaching
I talk about these like one degree lies, and I
give a silly example of being on a date and
the guy's like, I love Italian food and secretly you
hate Italian food. You don't like it, you don't want pasta,
but you say, oh me too, and you agree.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
And then one.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
Degree at a time, as you're dating, you start like
agreeing to things because you're trying to win them over,
or you're saying like this might be as good as
it gets, or here, she's really good looking. I don't
want to miss out on this, and before we know it,
we're like ten twenty thirty degrees off course because of
all these little things we didn't represent authentically.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
So my whole thing is start to say I don't
like Italian. I don't like pasta, but I do.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
Like this, and maybe they it turns out they love
it too, or it's something that they can grow with you.
But if you don't to your point, Howard, if you
don't show up authentically as you, it's not going to
last because eventually conflict will come in, there'll be a
life stressor, and then you really show up as who
you are, right, and then you're like, oh crap, what
just happened.
Speaker 11 (48:29):
I know a lot of single women, and single women
will play dumb because they think that's what the guy wants.
Speaker 10 (48:35):
And if you're if you're pretending to be somebody.
Speaker 11 (48:38):
You're not, and you're not going to draw the kind
of guy that would respect your your power that you
have as a woman because you're playing like you're a
dumb blonde or whatever. Right, it's like, be who you
are and find that person who loves you for who
you are.
Speaker 10 (48:52):
You're right?
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Give a social media links real quick?
Speaker 9 (48:55):
Who mean?
Speaker 4 (48:56):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (48:57):
Oh okay?
Speaker 6 (48:58):
So if you go to Instagram, I'm Stephanie seek Coach.
My website has a ton of resources. Stephanieseek dot com.
If you are listening to this audibly, Stephanie is s
T E.
Speaker 5 (49:08):
F A N.
Speaker 6 (49:09):
I Seek see K like seek and you shall find
your love whatever you want. And then Facebook is the
love compass, so cool.
Speaker 4 (49:20):
So Instagram is Profound Power Joe.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
My website is Profoundpower dot net and Facebook is Joe
Petrowski and my LinkedIn is Joe Petrowski as well. And
I'm having a special event for women on August twenty second.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
I'll have that advertised as well pretty soon. So thank you.
Speaker 9 (49:41):
Eryl.
Speaker 7 (49:42):
You can find me at Carol Register on Facebook and
LinkedIn and at Neurocoach Carol on Instagram. You can find
me at Carol Register on Instagram as well, and I'd
love to talk with you about closing that gap from
six to seven figures, but do it fast. I have
(50:02):
really limited spots available, and so if you think this
might be a good fit, reach out to me. I'll
share the deeds we can find out if we're a
good connection, a get fit. I love love working with you, Stephanie.
It's absolutely amazing and I'm so excited to be here
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on movie reviews and work, and that reminds me Brian.
I want to give a shout out for giving Tuesday
to better Vision for children that's another charity that helps
prevent childhood blindness and supports the foster care system in California.
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And they're connected with the easy Way Network.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
And we are out of time. Got to thank everybody.
And I always say this, have a good night, tonight,
better day tomorrow. You see someone without a smile, please
give them one of yours because the world needs it
and it's always about love and energy and fulfilling that one.
He will see you next week.
Speaker 9 (51:02):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7 (51:04):
Mus