October 25, 2022 • 11 mins
Bethenny on why Bravo is like a good ex boyfriend, and which BravoCon question was below the belt.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right, So it was Bravo con and I wasn't there.
I am not on Bravo, and uh, but I love
that I have such a good relationship with the experience
now because I'm far enough away from it. You know,
when you break up with someone and in the beginning
you're angry or sad and you're not far away from it,
and you think about it and what are they doing?
(00:32):
When you first break up with someone, you think about,
what are they doing? I missed them, I hate them,
I'm angry. You know you're thinking about it. Good bad,
I'm so happy I'm not with them, or I wish
I was with them, or you're drinking and want to
call them. And when I first left Bravo, um, more
so the second time, I think because it was abrupt,
I just I just decided not to go back really late,
(00:53):
and then you sort of wondering what's going on without you?
You know, you're just curious and intrigued, and you still
It's like when you up with someone and you're still
speaking to common friends for a while, and even the
common friends know that you're kind of speaking to them
because you want to know the information, and you try
to hold back and talk about other things, and then
you ultimately get to the fact that you want to
talk about that, but oh, well, have you seen Joe anywhere?
(01:13):
Like how are you? How are the kids? How's that?
What do we do? You go on for an hour
and then how have you seen Joe? And that's really
why you called. So there'd be people that you speak to, producers, um,
Bravo people, and you kind of want to get to it,
and then you never really get satisfied by it. But
it's a place that you left and you're happy left
and people are telling you you're it's great that you left,
(01:35):
and it's just it's a process. So now it's Bravo
con and I've been away from Bravo for so long,
um that it's so fun for me. It's like that
acts that you can still be friendly with and text
them something that's a funny inside joke and have no
feeling not be like, oh god, I want to get
back together with them. And that's how it is. Now.
I can talk to Andy, I can go do watch
(01:55):
What Happens live, and it's funny because it's different. I
never bring anything up because I really don't care. I
don't think about um the housewives anymore, and the producers
will always bring it up, well now they you know,
we wish you were there, or we'd like to have
you back, or they bring it up thinking maybe one
day you'll bite, and they know the difference to they know, wow,
(02:16):
she's really groved on. So Bravo con um. I was
actually proud of Bravo, Like it was just different versus
being like, oh, what they did and it's a disaster
and wanting it to be bad because you're not there.
It was totally the opposite. I was watching me and like,
this is comical. I could finally watch this franchise the
way that other people do and be like, wow, I
(02:38):
can't believe she said that he did that that happened.
And what's funny is that I have all the inside tea.
I can find out anything I want. You know. Someone
called me and said, this person literally has an entirely
different face. It doesn't look anything like it did before.
And they definitely got work and this one seemed like
(02:59):
this and swam the jealous of this. But by and large,
Ravo did a good job because most of what was
scandalous came out. That's their job to just make sure
that everybody knows everything that happened, whether at least a
Wrennet getting booed, or Erica Jayne talking about Dorrit and
Peak's relationship, or Jen Shaw crashing somebody's hotel room because
(03:20):
she wasn't invited to an event. I mean they've mentioned
at all. Everybody knows everything. So it's so juicy for
everyone because everyone's just so satisfied by everything that they're getting,
even if it's not exclusive. It's just crazy and great
to talk about Cathy Hilton eating a hot dog on
the red carpet, or and you know the thing about Bravo,
like you know, Kathy knows that that's gonna get pick
(03:41):
up and that people are gonna watch, just like Erica
knows talking about Pique and Dorite is gonna get picked
up and everyone's gonna watch. There's no too big a
thing you could do. You could wear the Statue of
Liberty Crown as an outfit. It wouldn't be too big.
You could wear crotchless chaps, it wouldn't be to revealing.
You could tell somebody to funk right off on stage.
(04:04):
Well that's what they want. So it's really a circus
that you could be anything you want and say anything
you want. So it's just must be so liberating. And
like I said, they did such a great job at
such a marketing and branding tool to drive into that
franchise that I was happy to watch them Afar from Afar.
And then I did this Instagram sound and TikTok sound
(04:26):
where it's like someone dancing and being like do do
do do? And they're like, uh, hey, what do you
think that's crazy? Hey? What do you think that's crazy?
And I wrote on top of it me talking to
Andy the day after Bravo coom like it was. It was,
you know, just a sound and n people were crying
laughing because it's also me being saying, me calling Andy
(04:48):
to gossip, you know, like I wanted to care about
the tea and I the first night it started, I
was like, you text me any nuggets that are exclusive,
you know, um, And everyone's so busy and what they're doing.
But then there like probably five percent of trolls me like,
well you left there, You left there, and you want
to go back. That is false. If I wanted to
go back, I could go back, that's a fact. Um.
(05:11):
And I left there right because I don't want to
be there, but that's fun that someone could be amazing
without you wanting to be there. I could still appreciate it.
I could think that someone I broke up with years
ago is interesting and cool and happy for them, but
I don't want to be with them. It doesn't mean
if I'm looking at a picture of them or hear
something about them that I think is entertaining, that that
(05:32):
I want to get back together with them. So no,
I don't want to be there, but I'm definitely now
a far away fan, which makes it so fun. And
then other people in the comments saying, um, what was it?
It was more about that you left and stop trying
to be relevant by staying, And it's just it's funny
(05:52):
the way that people think like that, because it's just
I have a great relationship with the franchise and the
experience and with Bravo con from a are and oh, well,
then why didn't you go? I didn't go because I
didn't go. I didn't want to go. I don't I
don't want to go, and I don't ever go to
things that don't really have anything to do with me.
I know that has something to do with me, but
I just I don't want to be exposed in that way.
(06:15):
It's just not what I want. It's so anyway that
sounds crazy, but yeah, I would like to. I like
to discuss and review Bravo in my own way from
afar and in a different way, and in a person
who paved the way for the women at Bravo con
for the I'm the first person that ever monetized reality
(06:36):
television in my way and all of reality television, and
the first I'm the first liquor brand, the first book
of the housewives, the first person to monetize reality television
in the world in that way. That is a fact.
And everybody followed, from the cocktails, to the brands, to
the wearing, the merch and every scene, I mean everyone.
(06:57):
So I get to talk about it from a are
and with it in the rear view, and that's really amazing.
I will say that Erica answering the question of who
would break up next? First of all, I have to
be honest and say the question being asked is definitely provocative,
(07:18):
charged and not positive. That there's a line saying who's
breaking up next is sort of like betting the don't
pass line. Um, So asking the question who will break
up next is like being in a casino and betting
the don't pass line. People don't like people who short
stocks and bet that don't pass line. It's sort of
there's a negativity to it. People do well at it,
(07:39):
but I'm not there for that. Then Ericat saying I
feel bad but an answering it now, I also know
that in the moment the game is moving fast. Me
feel like you should answer questions and not be like,
I'm not going to answer that, but you can't always
exercise that option, and then answering it with Dory and
p K their name. Now, let's go through housewives relationships.
(08:04):
I mean, we don't have two years, so we can't
really go through it, but let's go through Tom and Erica.
And he's so supportive and it's amazing and he's always
been my rock and he's a great advisor. And Okay,
Tom and Erica, um, you know me and Jason, uh
(08:24):
Cynthia and whoever she's been with, Nini and Greg, the
Vicky and all of her her husband and her fiances
and her guy who had faith cancer like relationships are
Tamarra and her ex husband Simon Tamara. You know and
maybe the current husband. I bet either still together. Relationships
(08:44):
are hard, that's just life. Relationships are hard. Most relationships
aren't sustainable. Divorce is real. And I don't love someone
discussing who's going to break up next, because it's not
an interesting question or answer. Okay, so let's say p
K and Dory. It seems like they have some problems.
(09:06):
She got robbed. That seems stressful. They've had public financial
challenges that seems stressful. They're on a reality show. I
don't think they can live up to the finances that
show on that show. That sounds stressful. Kyl and Maurice
have been dragged through the press in so many different ways,
whether it's that Dory's having affair with Maurice, which it
(09:29):
sounds ridiculous, whether it's alleged affairs, which also sounds ridiculous
or possible, because you know what, everybody has problems in relationships.
If you've been married for over twenty years and you're
obsessed with your partner and you think they're the most
amazing person in the world, and you've never wanted to
have sex with anyone else, and you've never looked at
someone else and thought they were attractive if you never
(09:49):
stressed out about money, or about parental decisions, or about
being fucking just bored or the way you know someone
handles things, or they're boring ing and you're exciting, or
you want to have more fun and they want to
stay home more, or they want to have more fun
and go out with the guys. And you were more
fun when you were younger, because you're not as cute
and fun because you know why, you're fucking running a householder,
(10:11):
managing your kids, are doing whatever you're doing. Marriage is hard.
It's hard. So I can guarantee you that Kathy and
Rick have had their share of problems, that Bethany and
Paul have had their share of problems, That Dorry and
p k and particularly after a robbery, have had their
share of problems. That Erica and Tom with an ocean
(10:31):
of age difference between them and fucking a scandal of
fraud between them, They've had problems. Everybody's had problems. So
to get up on a stage and say these people
I think are going to break up next put more
pressure on them press wise. So if they're trying to
either get out of a relationship or get deeper in
(10:52):
either way, this makes it harder. Uh. If they've just
suffered a robbery and are dealing with a bunch of
issues and not connected to each other, this puts more pressure.
It also could say, you know what, let's be stronger
two prove them all wrong. H
All right, So it was Bravo con and I wasn't there.
I am not on Bravo, and uh, but I love
that I have such a good relationship with the experience
now because I'm far enough away from it. You know,
when you break up with someone and in the beginning
you're angry or sad and you're not far away from it,
and you think about it and what are they doing?
(00:32):
When you first break up with someone, you think about,
what are they doing? I missed them, I hate them,
I'm angry. You know you're thinking about it. Good bad,
I'm so happy I'm not with them, or I wish
I was with them, or you're drinking and want to
call them. And when I first left Bravo, um, more
so the second time, I think because it was abrupt,
I just I just decided not to go back really late,
(00:53):
and then you sort of wondering what's going on without you?
You know, you're just curious and intrigued, and you still
It's like when you up with someone and you're still
speaking to common friends for a while, and even the
common friends know that you're kind of speaking to them
because you want to know the information, and you try
to hold back and talk about other things, and then
you ultimately get to the fact that you want to
talk about that, but oh, well, have you seen Joe anywhere?
(01:13):
Like how are you? How are the kids? How's that?
What do we do? You go on for an hour
and then how have you seen Joe? And that's really
why you called. So there'd be people that you speak to, producers, um,
Bravo people, and you kind of want to get to it,
and then you never really get satisfied by it. But
it's a place that you left and you're happy left
and people are telling you you're it's great that you left,
(01:35):
and it's just it's a process. So now it's Bravo
con and I've been away from Bravo for so long,
um that it's so fun for me. It's like that
acts that you can still be friendly with and text
them something that's a funny inside joke and have no
feeling not be like, oh god, I want to get
back together with them. And that's how it is. Now.
I can talk to Andy, I can go do watch
(01:55):
What Happens live, and it's funny because it's different. I
never bring anything up because I really don't care. I
don't think about um the housewives anymore, and the producers
will always bring it up, well now they you know,
we wish you were there, or we'd like to have
you back, or they bring it up thinking maybe one
day you'll bite, and they know the difference to they know, wow,
(02:16):
she's really groved on. So Bravo con um. I was
actually proud of Bravo, Like it was just different versus
being like, oh, what they did and it's a disaster
and wanting it to be bad because you're not there.
It was totally the opposite. I was watching me and like,
this is comical. I could finally watch this franchise the
way that other people do and be like, wow, I
(02:38):
can't believe she said that he did that that happened.
And what's funny is that I have all the inside tea.
I can find out anything I want. You know. Someone
called me and said, this person literally has an entirely
different face. It doesn't look anything like it did before.
And they definitely got work and this one seemed like
(02:59):
this and swam the jealous of this. But by and large,
Ravo did a good job because most of what was
scandalous came out. That's their job to just make sure
that everybody knows everything that happened, whether at least a
Wrennet getting booed, or Erica Jayne talking about Dorrit and
Peak's relationship, or Jen Shaw crashing somebody's hotel room because
(03:20):
she wasn't invited to an event. I mean they've mentioned
at all. Everybody knows everything. So it's so juicy for
everyone because everyone's just so satisfied by everything that they're getting,
even if it's not exclusive. It's just crazy and great
to talk about Cathy Hilton eating a hot dog on
the red carpet, or and you know the thing about Bravo,
like you know, Kathy knows that that's gonna get pick
(03:41):
up and that people are gonna watch, just like Erica
knows talking about Pique and Dorite is gonna get picked
up and everyone's gonna watch. There's no too big a
thing you could do. You could wear the Statue of
Liberty Crown as an outfit. It wouldn't be too big.
You could wear crotchless chaps, it wouldn't be to revealing.
You could tell somebody to funk right off on stage.
(04:04):
Well that's what they want. So it's really a circus
that you could be anything you want and say anything
you want. So it's just must be so liberating. And
like I said, they did such a great job at
such a marketing and branding tool to drive into that
franchise that I was happy to watch them Afar from Afar.
And then I did this Instagram sound and TikTok sound
(04:26):
where it's like someone dancing and being like do do
do do? And they're like, uh, hey, what do you
think that's crazy? Hey? What do you think that's crazy?
And I wrote on top of it me talking to
Andy the day after Bravo coom like it was. It was,
you know, just a sound and n people were crying
laughing because it's also me being saying, me calling Andy
(04:48):
to gossip, you know, like I wanted to care about
the tea and I the first night it started, I
was like, you text me any nuggets that are exclusive,
you know, um, And everyone's so busy and what they're doing.
But then there like probably five percent of trolls me like,
well you left there, You left there, and you want
to go back. That is false. If I wanted to
go back, I could go back, that's a fact. Um.
(05:11):
And I left there right because I don't want to
be there, but that's fun that someone could be amazing
without you wanting to be there. I could still appreciate it.
I could think that someone I broke up with years
ago is interesting and cool and happy for them, but
I don't want to be with them. It doesn't mean
if I'm looking at a picture of them or hear
something about them that I think is entertaining, that that
(05:32):
I want to get back together with them. So no,
I don't want to be there, but I'm definitely now
a far away fan, which makes it so fun. And
then other people in the comments saying, um, what was it?
It was more about that you left and stop trying
to be relevant by staying, And it's just it's funny
(05:52):
the way that people think like that, because it's just
I have a great relationship with the franchise and the
experience and with Bravo con from a are and oh, well,
then why didn't you go? I didn't go because I
didn't go. I didn't want to go. I don't I
don't want to go, and I don't ever go to
things that don't really have anything to do with me.
I know that has something to do with me, but
I just I don't want to be exposed in that way.
(06:15):
It's just not what I want. It's so anyway that
sounds crazy, but yeah, I would like to. I like
to discuss and review Bravo in my own way from
afar and in a different way, and in a person
who paved the way for the women at Bravo con
for the I'm the first person that ever monetized reality
(06:36):
television in my way and all of reality television, and
the first I'm the first liquor brand, the first book
of the housewives, the first person to monetize reality television
in the world in that way. That is a fact.
And everybody followed, from the cocktails, to the brands, to
the wearing, the merch and every scene, I mean everyone.
(06:57):
So I get to talk about it from a are
and with it in the rear view, and that's really amazing.
I will say that Erica answering the question of who
would break up next? First of all, I have to
be honest and say the question being asked is definitely provocative,
(07:18):
charged and not positive. That there's a line saying who's
breaking up next is sort of like betting the don't
pass line. Um, So asking the question who will break
up next is like being in a casino and betting
the don't pass line. People don't like people who short
stocks and bet that don't pass line. It's sort of
there's a negativity to it. People do well at it,
(07:39):
but I'm not there for that. Then Ericat saying I
feel bad but an answering it now, I also know
that in the moment the game is moving fast. Me
feel like you should answer questions and not be like,
I'm not going to answer that, but you can't always
exercise that option, and then answering it with Dory and
p K their name. Now, let's go through housewives relationships.
(08:04):
I mean, we don't have two years, so we can't
really go through it, but let's go through Tom and Erica.
And he's so supportive and it's amazing and he's always
been my rock and he's a great advisor. And Okay,
Tom and Erica, um, you know me and Jason, uh
(08:24):
Cynthia and whoever she's been with, Nini and Greg, the
Vicky and all of her her husband and her fiances
and her guy who had faith cancer like relationships are
Tamarra and her ex husband Simon Tamara. You know and
maybe the current husband. I bet either still together. Relationships
(08:44):
are hard, that's just life. Relationships are hard. Most relationships
aren't sustainable. Divorce is real. And I don't love someone
discussing who's going to break up next, because it's not
an interesting question or answer. Okay, so let's say p
K and Dory. It seems like they have some problems.
(09:06):
She got robbed. That seems stressful. They've had public financial
challenges that seems stressful. They're on a reality show. I
don't think they can live up to the finances that
show on that show. That sounds stressful. Kyl and Maurice
have been dragged through the press in so many different ways,
whether it's that Dory's having affair with Maurice, which it
(09:29):
sounds ridiculous, whether it's alleged affairs, which also sounds ridiculous
or possible, because you know what, everybody has problems in relationships.
If you've been married for over twenty years and you're
obsessed with your partner and you think they're the most
amazing person in the world, and you've never wanted to
have sex with anyone else, and you've never looked at
someone else and thought they were attractive if you never
(09:49):
stressed out about money, or about parental decisions, or about
being fucking just bored or the way you know someone
handles things, or they're boring ing and you're exciting, or
you want to have more fun and they want to
stay home more, or they want to have more fun
and go out with the guys. And you were more
fun when you were younger, because you're not as cute
and fun because you know why, you're fucking running a householder,
(10:11):
managing your kids, are doing whatever you're doing. Marriage is hard.
It's hard. So I can guarantee you that Kathy and
Rick have had their share of problems, that Bethany and
Paul have had their share of problems, That Dorry and
p k and particularly after a robbery, have had their
share of problems. That Erica and Tom with an ocean
(10:31):
of age difference between them and fucking a scandal of
fraud between them, They've had problems. Everybody's had problems. So
to get up on a stage and say these people
I think are going to break up next put more
pressure on them press wise. So if they're trying to
either get out of a relationship or get deeper in
(10:52):
either way, this makes it harder. Uh. If they've just
suffered a robbery and are dealing with a bunch of
issues and not connected to each other, this puts more pressure.
It also could say, you know what, let's be stronger
two prove them all wrong. H
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