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November 9, 2020 22 mins

It took a while, and President Trump still hasn’t conceded defeat, but there’s a new President-elect on the scene, and Joe Biden is pressing ahead with his plans to take over the White House. So what happens next during this transition period?

Katty and Carlos take the story on with author, journalist and member of the John Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, James Mann.

Editor: Penny Murphy Produced by Viv Jones, Maeve McGoran, Iyore Odighizuwa, Jonelle Awomoyi, John Murphy and Suzanne Kianpour Mixed by Andy Garratt

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