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July 22, 2025 25 mins

After Ukraine announced another round of peace talks with Russia, commentators continue to question whether President Trump’s latest threat of secondary tariffs carries enough weight to force Vladimir Putin to the negotiating table. So we’re asking how exactly these measures could be rolled out, what the impact would be on international trade, and why the US isn’t opting to introduce further sanctions alongside the EU.

To answer all of that, Victoria and Vitaly are joined by Stephanie Baker, a senior writer in Bloomberg’s investigations team, and the author of ‘Punishing Putin: Inside the Global Economic War to Bring Down Russia’. Plus, we discuss how Russia is overhauling the education system for those 1.6 million Ukrainian children living under occupation.

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Laurie Kalus, Polly Hope and Julia Webster. The technical producer was Hannah Montgomery. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

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