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March 26, 2025 13 mins
The accidental leak of a National Security Signal chat to The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg has ignited fierce debate and conversation in Washington. While Goldberg is known for his long-standing opposition to President Trump, there is a real question of just how such pertinent information got into the wrong hands. Ben breaks down why it was so surprising that NSA Michael Waltz was the one in the wrong here, what this means for regular DC communication on apps like this, and why this was the first major wake-up call for a White House that had been scandal-free for the first two months.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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