Introducing Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Get ready for the launch of Michael Lewis's first podcast, where he takes listeners from student-loan call centers to the courts of Uzbekistan to the new trading hubs of Wall Street (in New Jersey). What happens when fairness can't be enforced?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pushkin. It started with a feeling, some nagging worry about
this world we find ourselves in this Steve kerges through
the clipboard. Steve kerg has got teed up. Steve Kerve
has got ejected. A world where everyone hates the referee.
Those who can kick the ball play football, those account

(00:37):
referee feels like someone keeps poking you in the back
of the shoulder and then saying foul, foul, foul. I
would never say the things that I do to referees
to a person in normal life. I'm Michael Lewis, author

(01:01):
of The Blindside, Moneyball, The Big Short, The Fifth Risk.
This is my first podcast. It's called Against the Rules.
This season, I'm taking you to all the poorly referee
corners of life. Look where we're sitting right now, Michael.

(01:22):
We're in a crappy parking lot across the street from
one of the most important capital market building on the globe.
On the globe, I just have some simple, basic questions.
It's going through my trash people do it. Questions about
what's happened to our idea of fairness? When you first
float this idea, how's it greeted? Okay, So, when I

(01:45):
first float this. Let me come on, this is the
early two thousands and I'm talking about a new government agency. Oh,
just what everybody's looking for. Right, here's what I think.
We still need our referees, someone to make the call,
someone to protect us when life's unfair. But these days

(02:05):
it's not easy. Why would anybody want to be a rap? Seriously,
I wonder that too many? And they're not allowed to
say anything. They're not allowed to explain themselves. They're not
allowed to defend themselves. So I'm going to defend them.
It starts April second. Against the Rules is the new
show from Pushkin Industries. You can subscribe now for free

(02:27):
wherever you get your podcasts. So, do you have anything
you'd like to say to the referees of the world
before we turn this recording off. Don't pick sides unless
it's my side.