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Pushkin no more going home. I'm on the ninth floor
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of the LA County Courthouse. It's the celebrity murder floor.
This is where O. J. Simpson was tried, and Phil Spector,
the grim Sleeper, the night Stalker, and now Anthony Rowda.
Rowd has been awaiting trial for over a year. He
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looks like he's aged a decade. He's in a restraint chair,
arms strapped down, doubtless the result of so many courtroom disruptions.
He gets wheeled in backwards by half a dozen deputies.
They're filming him, but the judge won't let me record
in the courtroom, so I take notes the old fashioned
way by hand in my reporter's notebook. By now, Route's
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exhausted the public defender's office and the alternate public defender's office.
He's onto a private attorney who represents indigent clients. But
still at almost every hearing he's asking the judge, sometimes nicely,
sometimes not if he can represent himself. The question of
Routa's mental state hangs over the whole proceeding. Which Route
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will show up today, what will provoke his rage? Is
anyone going to mention the fact that he seems completely
unstable today, he's a rate. He's yelling at the judge.
A crime scene is outdoors, there was a fire, whereas
his ballistics expert time is passing time he can't get back.
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I don't want to sit in jail another two years,
he shouts, What do you want me to do? Be dumb?
Want me to close my eyes and my ears? I
have a brain, I have a soul, So I use
that you don't tell me. I'm almost relieved when at
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a later hearing, the judge expresses doubt about his competency
to stand trial, even though that means everything will slow
down while he's assessed and stabilized. But what he's yelling
about today is something I've been thinking about too, the evidence,
What there is, what there isn't, and what it all
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adds up to in the case against Rowda. In other words,
what's the theory of the case. How would Rowda have
committed all these crimes? And more important why? I'm Dana
Goodyear and this is Lost Hills, Episode seven, Morning Light.
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I'm holding a file stamped secret. It's the testimony that
was presented to a grand jury convened several months back.
It's been unsealed so finally I can see what the
prosecutor's thinking. This is her best argument, all the evidence
she wants to present intact, unblemished, no holes poked by
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Rowdah's defense attorney. That'll come later when the criminal trial
gets under way. It's surprising, remember near Missus one through five,
the shootings that use shotgun AMMO. She says. The reason
law enforcement never found a shotgun is that there never
was one. She says, Anthony Rowda used a zip gun,
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a crude DIY weapon he made out of pipes and nails.
She called various investigators to testify to the grand jury.
They said they found shotgun shells at Rowdah's camp that
had markings indicating they hadn't been fired from a manufactured gun.
They also said they found pipes and nails, But pipes
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and nails don't constitute a zip gun. They're just some
of the elements. It's like if you walked into a
kitchen and saw milk, eggs, and sugar some dirty cake pans.
You might infer a cake had been made, but you
also might wonder where's the flour. The prosecutor says Routa
was fixated on killing when the homemade zip gun didn't kill.
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She says he left the area around Malibu Creek State Park,
went to northern California. Cell Phone data places him there
in January twenty eighteen, and when he came back a
few months later, she says he had a new weapon,
a nine millimeter carbing, and that's what allowed him to
fulfill his deadly plan. Hallelujah blessed Mary Crazy's back. So
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we went from a crudely cobbled together zip gun to
a precise and deadly semi automatic weapon, the nine millimeter carbing.
I've never even heard of a zip gun and know
almost as little about carbs. I call up Greg Block,
the weapons expert. Again. A zip gun is a homemade,
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make it yourself gun, normally shooting shotgun rounds. It's a
couple pieces of pipe, he says. Everything you need to
make a zip gun you can get at the hardware store.
The most basic would be a pipe to hold the
shot shell, a nail, and something to force the nail
into the back of the shell. Basically, they're a weapon
for a person that cannot legally purchase one. So since
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Rowdah couldn't buy regular weapons and had gone to prison twice,
for having antique weapons, maybe the next logical step the
last resort was to make his own. It also fits
Rowdah's survivalist lifestyle. One of his favorite survivalist authors wrote
a book which Rawdah owned, called Gorilla Gunsmithing, about making
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your own weapons. Greg tells me that zip guns are dangerous, clumsy,
and imprecise. They're unreliable if not made properly. They do
not have an effective range. A zip gun is for
up close personal, he says. You've got to be really
motivated to build one. Usually it's hardcore gun geeks and teenagers.
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Depending upon the metal he's using for one or both
pieces of pipe, it could blow up in his hand
because when that round goes off, you're causing an explosion.
And if you're not using good metal, that barrel could
separate like a banana peels, and if you're holding that
in your hands, it's going to get religious. The zip
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theory doesn't just explain why the detectives never found a shotgun.
It could also explain a distinct feature of near misses
one through five, the shotgun ammo shootings that took place
well before Bodette's murder. In those incidents, the shooter fired
only once. It was one of the oddities, along with
the time of day in the area that early on
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made Sergeant Wright and Lieutenant Royal think the crimes were connected.
Reloading a zip gun takes time, which could mean getting caught,
especially if you're hunting ground is a crowded public park.
So what about the other gun? The one Route was
arrested with the Macon model was a Ruger PC nine.
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It looks just like a rifle, except that it takes
a pistol cartridge. A pistol cartridge. In other words, Route
as rifle took a nine millimeter handgun round. See, that
was the whole thing with the car being going back
to the wild West. Whatever your handgun shot, your car
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being shot, or your saddle rifle. Then the Old West,
you carried a bandalier that had one caliber and it
was used for your car being and used for your handgun.
The Ruger PC nine resembles a short barreled military style rifle.
According to grand jury testimony, Routes had been modified. The stock,
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which rests on the shoulder had been removed. Instead it
had a pistol grip. And how much does a carving cost?
You can get him for five or six hundred dollars.
I ask him what people use them for? Hunting? Home defense?
Not really, They're more for plinking and target shooting. That's
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really what they're designed for. I mean, because it's a
it's a handgun round. It's really not effective as a
hunting rifle. So why would someone get one of these
guns for reasons other than target practice availability? I believe
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that's what he had available to him to get illegally.
You know, he can't go into a gun store and
buy a gun. He's going to get refused. He will
fail the California Department of Justice background clearance check. So
my personal belief is it was probably stolen and he
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bought it from a fence, or maybe he stolen himself.
We don't know. Greg says that the Ruger PC nine
is a loud gun. There's actually two noises. When you
hear the noise of the gun going off, and then
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down range you hear what is, basically, for lack of
a better description, a sonic boom, just like an airplane
a flash on Scott McCurdy, Tristan Boudette's brother in law,
and his bleary thought in the early morning hours that
he was hearing the crack of fireworks and the sonic boom.
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Is that what would sound possibly like fireworks? Yes, very
much so. And how accurate is it? I'll do one
hundred yards. You can do a head shot with it
if you know what you're doing. That's a long range.
But even at that maximum distance, the shooter still might
have heard the Boudette girls crying. Before we get off
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the phone, I ask Greg for his best guess as
to what happened to the zip gun, that cake that
the prosecutor assumes existed, but which detectives never found. Once
he got the newer modern Ruger PC nine, he would
either bury, hide, or stash his previous weapons. I don't
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see him throwing them away because he may need them
down the road. I go back to thinking about the
prosecutor's evidence based on what she presented to the grand jury.
There's a lot she has and a lot she doesn't have.
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She doesn't have the zip gun, just some pipes and
nails and spent shells with suspicious markings on them. She
doesn't have witnesses placing Routa at the scene of any
of the near misses, and she doesn't have Routa in
the campground at Malibu Creek State Park with the rifle
at the time of the murder. But she does have
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a lot of data from all those electronic devices found
in Routah's backpack and on his camp mark. Donald, that
Major Crimes detective told the grand jury that location data
from the devices put Routa in the general area of
the park on the dates of many of the crimes.
There's also the stuff that was stored on the devices.
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One of Routa's phones had a file on how to
make zip guns. The kindle had one called expedient Homemade Firearms.
Routah's search history tells a story too, quote bullet hits
car gas tank and quote nine millimeter incendiary bullets. And
on the morning of the murder, the prosecutor says Rowda
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was nearby, Andy was awake an hour before Bodett was killed.
One of Rodda's devices pinged on a nearby network, suggesting
that he was in the area. About ten minutes after
Bodett was killed, Rowda's searched breaking news headlines. Here's something
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else the prosecutor has which will probably be more important
in the eyes of a future jury than any other
single piece of evidence. She has the Sheriff's Department weapons expert.
He testified to the grand jury that the bullet excavated
from Tristan Bodet's right shoulder was fired by Rowdah's rifle.
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Beyond positing that Anthony Rowda was a killer bent on killing,
the prosecutor hasn't offered much about why. Why would he
have done these things? What would have motivated him? She's
got ideas about the mechanics, but nothing about the meaning.
From the research I've been doing, listening to his music,
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listening to him in his letters, reading all those court documents,
I've started to see some patterns. I wonder if there's
anything else out there that could help me understand him.
I head back to the Internet to see what else
I can find out. He's got a couple of LinkedIn pages,
a word Press account, all those music sharing pages. He's Crazyhorse,
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He's Tony Rowda MC. He was almost in hiding in
the real world, but online he really put himself out there.
I think he wanted to be noticed as a musician
and also as a writer. I searched up one of
his aliases, Crazyhorse to one, and that's how I discover
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there's only one way to say it, a pair of manifestos.
There is a great debate going on now about the
Illuminati and New World Order. This is from one of them.
It's called The True Illuminati. Rata posted it in twenty eighteen.
Like Rada's letters, his writings are being read by an
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actor and have been lightly edited for clarity. I first
heard of the New World Order through music albums in
the mid nineteen nineties, and the Illuminati a few years
later through the same channels. It's cut and paced conspiracy
Theory the tracks from King David to George Washington, Freemasons,
Skull and Bones, Morgan Stanley, and the founder of FedEx.
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I obviously listened and formed my own opinion, but it
was only years later, when fighting some legal court cases,
that I seen firsthand the existence of these illuminary beings.
The other manifesto is called The Luciferian Theory. It too
was posted in twenty eighteen. On the cover, there's an
etching of a voluptuous eve handing an apple to Adam.
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They're naked in the garden underneath the Tree of Knowledge.
The snake dangles from a branch above, just as there
is a choice of good and evil. A person must
decide between a nightmare or a vision in their way
of thinking. This is where a Lucifer dwells. The Luciferian
theory is named for Lucifer. He was one of God's
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favorites until he tried to overthrow him and was cast
out of heaven. Narcissism and sadism are the foundation of
my theory. They are the devil's marks. After his banishment,
Lucifer stopped by the garden of Eden. Now with a
God's eye, which means using facts and truth, we look
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to the paradise where what they call the stage is set,
and Lucifer is about to set a scene in how
to commit murder. Route is fascinated by Satan. Satan was
like a snake in the grass. That he could still
move quickly and strike with one lethal move, and that
he was cunning and beautiful also plays into the story.
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He says he personally has felt Satan's manipulations through my
own experience from my family life, community, my short time
in the army, and the legal system. I have seen
firsthand what mind games can accomplish or destroy. Mind games,
he says, lead to pain, trauma, alienation, and ultimately paranoia.
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One of the most common tactics is to plant doubt
in the individual, either by sexual inadequacy such as thinking
of homosexuality when they're not, bring out the individual's feelings
of insecurity, shame, guilt, and by some force or threat
cause feelings of loneliness. Then, once alienated, they hope to
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wear the mind down. Paranoia develops and the individual begins
to become suspicious of those close to them. Person can
feel betrayed of what is true and who to trust.
Then there's the unfairness that sense Rauta has that he
is the victim that supposedly good people do bad things
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to him and then he gets punished for it. So
why did these things happen? Did I do anything to
these people? No? Shouldn't these people be suffering a state
of hell and not me? The manifesto has dated April ninth,
twenty eighteen, that's two and a half months before Tristan
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Boudett was killed In it. Rada sounds tortured, like he's
in a cosmic battle for his soul. Like he said,
person must decide it's nightmare or vision immortal vision. I
promise you I will not lose my soul. The only
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official assessment I have of Routah's mental health is a
form attached to one of his court cases. It's a
case he brought in two thousand and six against the
California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, claiming abuse and civil
rights violations while he was in prison. Next to developmental problem,
the form says abuse eleventh grade education ged. If you
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read that as a chronology, it's a pretty awful coming
of age story. The form says that in two thousand
and two, Routa twice attempted suicide by pills, and that
he has a history of alcohol in marijuana use and
a history of depression and PTSD. The PTSD stems from
an ledged two thousand and three assault in the Ela
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County jail. Rada has documented this allegation elsewhere, that he
was badly assaulted by five or six other inmates and
the deputies failed to protect him. His father, Ozzie, told
me that the deputies were the ones who left his
cell open, facilitating the attack. The form says he's been
prescribed the antidepressant Lexapro and the antipsychotic whispered All which
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at low doses can be used to treat depression, and
at high doses is used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
In a letter from jail, Rada wrote, my mental health
had got worse as I've gotten older, but living alone
has helped, even though being alone or in jail is
what caused it. I'm not sleeping well right now. Somehow
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my thoughts get dark. I do not like taking medication.
I usually receive counseling when I want outside or inside.
He told me that when it's up to him, he
doesn't take meds. He also said he drinks sometimes to
the point of oblivion. When I was free, I drank
liquor when I could, and my memory was sometimes bad.
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I would forget my age, write down what I needed
to do so I wouldn't forget I've lacked out sometimes?
Is he trying to tell me that he may have
done things he doesn't even know he did. I'm trying
to understand rowdas psychology, to imagine what his motive could
have been. What I've been able to assemble combing through
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his writings and court documents is a weird, sad, scattered jumble,
and it's far short of an explanation, still nothing to
suggest a why I decided to call a psychologist. I
find someone who specializes in adult male offenders, especially the
connection between childhood trauma and adult deviance. His name is
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doctor James Revs. He's never examined Anthony Rowda, but he
agrees to give me some educated guesses. I tell him
everything I know about Rouda's past, what I've observed, and
the crimes he's accused of. Now, the heat that you
were talking about in regard to his emotionality, that to
me comes from something that he has undergone, you know,
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in other words, someone has betrayed his trust or hurt him,
or at least he perceives that to be the case.
Revas says, it doesn't sound like rout is a psychopath.
He sees him more as quote intelligent, wounded, impulsive, obsessional,
and poorly skilled. I just have the sense, as you talk,
that there's a lot of heat behind all of these acts,
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that they're not coldly premeditated in the service of gaining
some good. That there's a lot behind that Rauta, he says,
sounds like a textbook narcissist. You also mentioned that he
acted as his own attorney in court, and many, many
narcissistic criminals will do that, and he did that, for example,
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because they believe that they are smarter than their own counsel.
And so then it may be that the murder and
the shootings are sort of a narcissistic compensation for feelings
of insecurity. My guess is it may make him feel
very very powerful. If in fact he set fires, it
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may make him feel very very powerful. It's his way
of sort of giving the middle finger to the world.
I've witnessed Rout to do exactly literally this give the
middle finger to the TV cameras in court. My guess
is what's happening is it makes him feel omnipotent, all powerful,
and probably in that moment it's massively relieving of all
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of these other negative tensions inside of him. So shooting
cars and people could make him feel masculine, powerful and important,
godlike even getting to decide who and who dies. It
could be very satisfying for someone who's identified as a
victim for so long. He's going away with a bang.
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He's pronounced if he's doing these things, he's pronouncing that
he's still there. He's going away and then coming back
and engaging an aggression, you know. So to me it's anger,
narcissism and paranoia. Well that's one person anyway who can
figure an explanation for a series of violent crimes against
unsuspecting strangers. But in his letters and in court, Rauda
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keeps saying he's innocent. I go back to his writings,
the manifesto he published just before Tristan Boudette's murder. I
force myself to reread the Luciferian theory. Rowda makes a
lot of connections. There's stuff about the third eye the sun,
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and there's a lot about Lucifer. Lucifer equals light equals
in light. Mint to stay on the subject, my theory
of an ancient secret knowledge being passed down through history
by Lucifer. The name Lucifer literally means the morning star
the planet venus or is like bringing onto the highest
of initiates. Lucifer. The name actually means the one who
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brings the light, the morning star, first light. That makes
me think about the timing of the crimes just before
the morning light, and something I'd skimmed right past before
jumps out at me this time. Routa makes a reference
to Saint John's Day, the feast day of John the Baptist.
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It's in late June, and it's a big deal to Freemasons.
Some of the Illuminati routa frets about the most. He
writes that a quote happens to be Midsummer's Day, the
day the sun is at its strongest. Midsummer's Day, the
day the sun is at its strongest is the solstice,
the longest day of the year. It's a day that,
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in old religious myths, represents a turning point in the
battle between light and shadow, when the Winter King begins
his ascendants by killing the Summer King. In twenty eighteen,
Midsummer's Day was June twenty first, the day Tristan Bodett
took his children camping, The last day of Tristan Bodett's life.
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I've been living with Anthony Rawda for two and a
half years now. My office is full of his stuff.
At one end of my desk I keep a stack
of books on how to disappear, how to survive in apocalypse,
live off the land, build a bomb, or make a
gun from scratch. They are all books I know He's
owned at one time or another in his life. I've
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got file, boxes of notebooks, court filings, letters, his lists
of grievances, misdirections, red herrings, split hairs. Why has no
one asked law enforcement why they have lied? Why has
no lawyer wished to represent me? Why has no one
tried to prove my accusations of the sheriff's assaulting me
as lies? Why did the sheriff tell the media I
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was a suspect in the murder of mister Baudet on
the day of my arrest, when the rifle had not
been tested and I did not admit any wrongdoing. Why
is there no direct evidence leading me to the attempted
murder when the Sheriff's department official statement to Lieutenant Royal
is that these crimes were not connected. Why did Lieutenant
Royals in instigation not lead to any suspects. The media's
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portrayal of me has been slanderous. I have not been
to Maliboon years. I spend a lot of time looking
at his drawings, especially one that was published in a
prison literary magazine in twenty sixteen, the year he was
most recently released. On the left are two cops surrounded
by little word bubbles that say nine one on the right,
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a snake and an apple with a bite out of it.
Above that, the gates of Eden, with Adam and Eve
standing underneath a radiant tree of knowledge. They look like
they're walking away to the east of Eden after the fall.
I feel like I know Rautah a little now, and
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I think he's grafted this story of paradise and loss
onto his own and his artist's name, Crazy Horse. It's
not random either. The original Crazy Horse defeated custom Army
at the Battle of the Little Big Horn. He met
the army in steep and treacherous terrain, then killed Custer
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and every last one of his men. That sounds like
a rout of revenge fantasy come true. And you know
how Crazy Horse died resisting imprisonment. Ded Rouda says he's
not guilty and the trial will determine that. But here's
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what I think. Part of Anthony Rowda wants to be
left alone. Part of him is dying for a fight.
And now that I know about his hatred of police,
his long and contentious relationship with the Lost Hills cops,
I have my own theory of the case. It was
never about Tristan Boudet or Campers or someone getting in
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his way as he was stealing food. I think Rouda
camped behind Lost Hill Station and started shooting off his
guns to make fool of the cops, to draw them
into a fight in treacherous terrain where he was comfortable
to kill them or be killed. One of the cops
told me that during Radah's arrest, he was shouting at
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the deputies stuff like kill me, fucking shoot me before
I get you. On my desk, I keep a map
I printed out that covers Malibu Creek State Park in
the surrounding area. It's annotated with every crime route as
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accused of dates, victims, jurisdiction, ammunition. I also marked Ratah's
camp north of a hairpin turn on Mulholland Highway. I
need to get out there. I still haven't been. I
searched my inbox for correspondence with Lou, the guy in
the Maga hat that I met on the tour of
Malibu Creek State Park. I remember he said he'd take
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me to Ratah's camp, and that's how I come across
a photo album that Lou shared with me a while back,
pictures he took when he went to Routah's camp. A
few weeks after he was arrested, I clicked through them again.
I've looked at them a handful of times, always with
a vaguely disappointed feeling. They look like nothing, dry gray
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and brown leaves littering the hillsides, pieces of blue tarp boring.
But this time I see something I never noticed before.
In one of the pictures, there's a piece of scrap
wood that looks almost like garbage. It's roughly l shaped,
with all kinds of crude notches and cuts, an odd
shape like a puzzle piece. By now, I've spent a
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lot of time looking at diagrams and images of homemade
guns in Routah's books on YouTube. Am I seeing what
I think I'm seeing? This piece of wood looks to
me like the frame for a zip gun. Maybe the
last ingredient route would have to bake the cake, and
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it was in his camp. I call up Greg Block again,
he's the weapon's expert. Okay, can you yeah describe what
you see? It doesn't look like a random piece of wood.
It looks like it was made to do something or
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be something. I mean, it's got a lot of cuts
in it that are made for a certain reason. On
one side, there's what looks like a handle or a
way to grip it. Above that part of the wood
has been removed, possibly to make space for a barrel,
and just in front of the grip is another series
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of cuts, notches in a zigzag line. Those notches are
very crude and rudimentary. It was done by hand. And
then you'd have to ask, why is that piece of
wood in this area? It is definitely suspicious. It's been
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cut and designed for one thing, which is something to
launch a projectile commonly referred to as a zip gun.
The investigators knew they were looking for a zip gun,
and they knew they hadn't found all the necessary elements.
So if you're law enforcement and you know you're looking
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for a zip gun and you see this on the ground,
what do you do? You're taking his evidence. This idea
is so crazy. I call up a couple of hardcore
gun geeks YouTubers who make guns all the time. We
talk about the limitations of the photograph. It's taken from above,
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so it doesn't show the object in three dimensions. Close
inspection might yield other interpretations. But still they both say, yeah,
I can see that it's not crazy to think this
might be a prototype or a rough draft. One of
them says, I can make a zip gun out of that.
Law enforcement never found the weapon used in near misses
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one through five. They found some elements, pipes and nails,
but nothing close to a finished product. Could this be
the missing ingredient? The cops combed through Rout's camp multiple
times and no one picked it up. And you know
what happened the day after lou took that photo, the
Wolsey fire. So now, in all likelihood it's been reduced
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to ash, and all that exists is this photograph. Zip
guns have another name. They're known as ghost guns. They're untraceable,
they disappear. I'm having a holy shit kind of realization.
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But it's not that I think I've discovered the lost
puzzle piece that solves the Route A case. It's that
law enforcement overlooked this an object at Route's camp that
your average gun geek on YouTube could make a weapon from.
The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, of course, won't comment, but
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I can't stop wondering, how could they have missed this?
How could they not see it? It's almost like denying
the existence of the Canyon shooter became a habit the
law enforcement couldn't break. They were so used to saying
that there was nothing going on out there, no mystery
to solve, that they couldn't recognize what was right before
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their eyes. Lost Hills is written and hosted by me
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