June 22, 2022 • 49 mins
It’s the Saturday before the final episode of Not Lost is due and Brendan still doesn’t know where he is going. Will he escape New York and find the right destination?
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pushkin m Ran next week for a conversation. This is
(00:39):
not Lost California, so far out of my feeling. I
am Brendan. Friends's new in him great, feel great that
it's not in New York. That's my friend, the audio
producer John Delor, just like it is an incredible joy
to just be out of the city. Yes, right, thank you,
(01:09):
thank you. Every day. Hey, Tony, how's Brooklyn's most popular
dry cleaner doing the most? You're always doing something, the
most famous guy in Greenpoint. I'm happy to have a
presence with you. Listen. I'm glad that I see almost everything.
You are truly a fixture in this neighborhood. I don't
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know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
That's an amazing thing. Come on, you're like the original.
You're like the original. Don't don't don't. So what are
you up to? I got looking sharp, you're looking sharper.
I'm going to the office. But you drop these off,
all right? You got a couple of shirts, Just gonna
put them on the rock outside. I'm trying to get
(01:49):
a lot of money from him. I'm gonna say this,
this is Brendan shirts. How you know I have a
feeling we're gonna have ninety degrees, but it's not what
you want, so dred degrees for like three months? Yeah? Yeah, never, No,
I not so hot today? What are we doing here? Why?
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Why are we in New York City? Where would you
rather be? Like I I understand what you try, but
where would you rather be? Well that's the problem when
I really think about it, I don't know the answer.
And it seems like New York is a good place
to not have the answer. Yeah, but I mean where
else can you have this? You're you're pointing towards a
there's a bag of trash out front, and uh, well
it's part of the scenery. Welcome to New York. Look,
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there's a dog that wants to stop in. Do you
tell me? Where could you be? And you can have
this kind of interaction with people nowhere? It's fair. We're
both social people and this city is a gift that
keeps giving. Come on, I mean, you walked down a street,
you say hello to this one, that one, you talk
to this one. I mean, you're gonna be where. But
the thing about New York, though, it's like it does
like beat you down. Man, It's like it's not an
easy place to live. You got to tell me what's easy.
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I mean, you can live up state and you're gonna
come out in the morning and complain about what snow
bears exactly the birds? And you grew up in the city, right, yes, yes,
I was born lebon On. I didn't Okay, you're born
in Beirut or I was one outside of me? Is
that when your parents came here? They came in eighty two,
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right after the embassy Embassy bombing, and I went to
Canarsi High School and you turned out. Okay, I think, yeah,
I think you can have a dressed for my girlfriend
and paint and black dress. Thank you, thank you. So
you've seen me now for years. We've known each for
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a long time. It's how have I changed it at all?
In your eyes in the past, like four or five years?
Grumpy year, that's true. I still love you, but you're
a different grumpy. You're like a cool grumpy you know. Okay,
thank you? You have to annoying grumpy like you want
to like get away from them. No, no, it's the
cool grumpy all right. So Tony, I have to travel
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one more place. So what what's your show about? Is it.
I go places with a friend and I try to
get invited to a dinner party. So I've done it. Montreal,
Mexico City, Boza Montana, big sir, I've done this, and
I have one more episode to make. And your kid
who came up and out it didn't we us? Well?
I mean I could are you this weeking, aren't you?
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I mean, I gotta make this show, man, I gott
if this is what I'm spending my afternoon doing, I
got I'm going to the office after this to kind
of I mean, what you want to come up like
Sunday night. That's tempting, but I seriously have to figure
out this episode first. But speaking of which, I gotta go,
So Tony, I'll see you later. Man, Thank you well.
I enjoy your beautiful day. And again you're looking sharp.
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Thank you. Thanks man. I'm glad that you know you
help me stay this way. Oh look at this another
beautiful day. Hey Emma, Emma, Hi, what are you doing.
I'm coming out of the library right. Do you only
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get one book at a time? Yeah, because I never
want to have a fi ever, that's probably wise. So
where's your mom? My favorite former college classmate? Oh? She
left me here. But I guess you're old enough. Now,
how old are you? I'm twelve. See, I thought I
was young in New York when I moved here in
my twenties, But you're like really young in New York.
Where are you going? I'm actually going to the office.
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It's a Saturday though, I know. But remember I told
you about that travel podcast I was working on. I
have to make one more episode, and I have no
idea where I'm going. All right, where do you think
I should go? Um? Maybe I saw it in some
TV show Reno Reno. Yeah, yeah, I did Las Vegas already,
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so I think I'm gonna I'm gonna skip Reno. But um,
are you walking this way? I'm going up to the
l Yeah, all right, let's do it. This neighborhood when
I first moved here was nothing. This was like auto repair.
Only my mom talks about it being like Williamsburg. Like
when she was younger, it was like who But now
Williamsburg is like chic. Yeah, it's like vegan, gluten free,
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food free restaurants. So what do you think about Waysber?
Do you like living here? Yeah? I want to live
in New York for my whole life. My mom tells
me that I'm too young to decide that, But I
like the fact that being a New Yorker is like
being in a club. So what are the membership benefits
of being part of that club. There's a lot of
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like arts and performing arts stuff in New York, I
mean Broadway, but like it's just all these different things
that are like New Yorker experiences. And also like pizza
and bagels. I mean, pizza isn't specific to New York,
but the best pizza it's in New York. Now you're
making me hungry. Should we get a Joe's get a
slice of pizza? Yeah? Okay, let's do it feel so
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far away though, it's let's to get there every single day.
So day a little hectic up here. It appears to
be an out door sports bar, so what happens when
it rains exactly? But it's also a thing wonder of
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having so many So much partying is bad for kids
like you, No, because to be living in New York
you have to be good at ignoring things. Because we're
also tightly packed together, right, you got to just keep
it cool. Yeah, you just have to kind of not engage.
We also just point out. Sorry to interrupt, but I'm
six foot three and I've just been walking like full pace,
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not even calibrating, and you are just right along my side.
I also walk really fast to get to school, and
I think that dozes in New York, so that everyone's
just trucking like we don't have time for that. Also,
you've gotten taller, which helps with the fast walking. You're
like shot up like stalks of corn. Yeah, that's the thing.
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A lot of the boys in my class haven't gone
to that yet. Some I think I'm taller than all
of them. Yeah, the boys will catch up, but their
brains won't. They'll always be behind you. They think they're
so funny too. They think that they just they got
the whole crowd laughing with their jokes, but they really didn't.
And like they're not funny. Can't you can't get like
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knock on their heads and nothing in there? No, I
mean I can't talk. You know, I have this show.
But I'm just being a boy who thinks he's funny sometimes.
All right, pizza, wow, pizza plates is packed? Oh my god,
what's your pizza move? Just plane perni if it's at
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a party, Let's get to plane. All right, thanks, have
a good It just came out of the oven. It's
very hot. I'm very passionate about this. Every time we
get into talking about the correct way to eat pizza,
which is to fold the pizza, people argue about it,
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and that's not fold your pizza. It is better and
everyone should do it. Why do you think it's better?
It's better for walking traveling, and it's also I think
it's like you get a better mouth feel and you
get more more per bite. It's like a pizza sandwich.
We can walk a little bit and then I'll go
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into the subway. Look how crazy Bedford is though, Wasn't
this busy when you were when you're young? But I
feel like New York City has so many different people.
That's one of the things I love most about it.
What do you mean, like there are such huge communities
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and you can be whoever you want to be in
New York City and there will be a community of
people that like relate to you when are the same
like and feel the same way as you about something.
And that's like pretty much a guarantee living in New
York City. Because there's just so many individuals, there's bound
to be a person who looks the same thing as
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you go. Yeah, I agree with that. It makes me
feel less alone, even if I don't know all those people.
You're right, I always feel like I'll figure it out here.
All right, This is I gotta hop into the l
It was nice chatting with you. You too, see you later.
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Dance clear of the closing doors, please, it's so time,
basic gentlemen, gather around. It's about to begin, So time,
So time, dude. Is this called showtime what you're doing?
Or is this dance? It's actually we call it hitting.
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It's called hitting. What he want? Is it called hits?
Anically a street performing what we callte it hitting because
it's like it's a hit. It's a lot of him
when we come out here and do this. It's a
big impact on New York City. It's a hit. How
did you get into it? It's such a it's such
intense activity. Yeah. I got into it because but I
was in high school. I met a friend freshman year
and he was a dancer because his father did it,
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and he ain't mighty meet downtown because he seen I
was a good dancer, and I took her from there
and I was like, what over fifteen years ago, what's
the craziest thing that's happened to you while you've been
doing this. The craziest thing that happened to me was
one guy gave me eight hundred dollars and yeah in
one setting, just like because he's just so blown away.
He was blowing away and he split it amongst the teams.
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A lot of people want to train and they get
annoyed and aggravated in general. So when they come in
here a lot of music on the train, it's like,
oh boy, here we go. And I have to admit
I love it. I've been that guy because like you,
I'm going to work at a long night, you're getting
an argument and you're on the train. They turn there
and you're like, oh no, I'm on the longest link
of the train. Yeah, And it makes sense. It's such
a small area and it's it's sometimes you're flipping and
you're like so close to them, they'll get nervous. I
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don't want to get hit. But what's amazing is that
most times I've been I've seen short time on the
train and like a hundred times, no one's ever been here. Yeah, Um,
my friend had he did a first flip and he
landed on a ladies lap. Don't lap like she was
like if she was saying so, and she was like oh,
but she wasn't upset. She's like, oh, wow, you know
how many of you? How many people? How many short
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time people do you think there is? It's a lot.
It's a shoe for a lot of cruise. Chit you
park Tom Square, thirty fourth Street, Junior Square, all over
New York. Ask well, thanks so much for talking. Of course,
man little Bible. You guys are great, Thank you, No
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I would be balking, like, how are you worried on Saturday?
Thank you? Hey, Amy Top, Hey, my name is Malcolm Gladwell.
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Welcome to my podcast about here recording right now? Yeah, misunderstood.
Wait did I just hear someone come in here? Brendon's here? Brendan? Yeah?
What's he doing here on a Saturday? Can we talk
about his travel show for a second. We're sending him
all over the country to find himself. It's bananas, Malcolm, Well,
at least it's not a true crime show. Hey Brendon,
can hear you? Oh? Hey Malcolm, Hey Bendon, it makes
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you feel any better? I haven't actually listened to your show.
Yet I think that makes me feel better. I guess
it's good to see people here on a Saturday. You know,
when I worked in LA, I would work all these saturdays.
I never ran into anyone. What does it say about
New York that I come into the office and there's
a bunch of you here today. Well this, this actually
gets into one of my larger theories about New York,
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which is New York life is exterior. LA life is interior. Right,
So the implicit bargain you make in moving to New
York is that you're buying the exterior, not the interior.
So of course New Yorkers are in the office on
Saturday because the existence of the office is a reason
to go there. Right, It's a that's good. It's a
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good reason to get out of my tiny apartment, which,
by the way, is the Great paradox. It's another one
my theories, this is the Great Paradox. So the New
York City turnaround in the mid nineties coincides with three
television sitcoms which celebrate the life of young people living
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in New York. Right, Everyone's Out Seinfeld, Friends, Will and
Grace Right, Boom boom, Boom and now all of those
cell a vision of New York that's tremendously appealing to
people around the country, and they're part of the Revival's
extraordinary revival that New York comes back from the dead
in the nineties and propelled I think by the power
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of this fantasy. The fantasy it is completely wrong. Why
is the fantasy wrong Because the people in those shows
never leave their apartment. Now, they'll never leave their apartment
for TV reasons, because that's the set. But like two cameras,
it's an La vision of a New York life. Right,
there's those shows are They were all made in La La,
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of course, so they construct these fabulous New York City
apartments that people never leave, which is one hundred percent wrong. Right.
It's the great irony of New York's revival is it
was propelled by a completely false picture of what living
in New York. Man. Yeah, um, all right, So I
still have to pick another place in America, North America.
(15:52):
Do you have any suggestions for me? I should maybe
think about going to Well, I mean, my favorites are
all the kind of like you know, Nashville. I do
love have a I have a great and overpowering love
of an Atlanta I'm going to this week. I'm just
full of excited about my trip to Atlanta. Um and
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I just welcome. I need you back in the booth.
Sounds like you gotta go anyway, all right, Malcolm, thanks
for the chat. Thank you, See you later, Amy. I
still have no idea what he shows about. Welcome. Wait
still here is later, Malcolm. The subway is down there,
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no trains at the station. If you need to get uptown,
you're gonna take the buses over there. The subway is
closed again. Yep. Wait those buses over there. Yes, the
buses right over there. You're going to cross the street
and take those buses you need to get up like
tour buses. That's what they are. They are tour buses,
but they're on a different route. They're gonna take you uptown. Jesus, okay,
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subway's clothes. Sadie, Hey, oh my god, high so good
to see you. Of course I would find Sadie Stein
woman about town here in Union Square on a Saturday.
Use my absorption. You're just deep in your phone. What
are you doing? Are you? It was as usual, trying
to figure out the transportation situation in this city. I know.
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Then they're pointing us to take these buses. You think
this is a better idea at this hour than walking?
Because this was a calculus. I was actually mid well,
you know what, it's an opportunity for us to be
on the top of a tour bus, so maybe we
should just go for it. All right? What else am
I dear? Maybe we can Maybe we'll take this up
the ground Central and sort it out from that. Really
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that's perfect because I have to be on the sixth
after Okay, great, Well, I'm just speaking to see if
we can get upstairs if anyone's leaving. But I don't
think anyone is leaving. Oh let's try it. Let's go
potagraph these two right here? Oh yeah, let's do those.
I always thought this is probably the best way to
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see the city. I've done it in London, but never
done it in New York. What are like three sady
spots us tell people to check out to get all
the flavor of your New York. All right, I guess
I'd say Whispering Gallery at Grand Central. This is where
people can stand at opposite sides of this arch and
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the person will hear it on the other side, walk
over the Brooklyn Bridge Classicum, and then maybe the picture
gallery of the New York Historical Society, the Dancing Bears.
Where is the New York Historical Society on the West side?
It's on West End. I mean, how do you feel
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about I've now been here on and off for a
couple of decades, and I'm finally coming to terms of
this is my home, and I get grumpy that I
have to share it all the time. What is your
take on sharing the town with visitors? That's what I
like about it, But but you know how perverse I am.
I like I like Times Square, I love tourists. I
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love talking to them, giving them directions. I'm so proud
of the city and showing it off, and it interests
me what is the city they're seeing? It's so different
from anything we've ever known. I mean, I haven't been
to the Statue of Liberty since I went on a
sixth grade school trip. I have never been to the
top of the Empire State Building because there's never the
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day when you want to stand in line for two hours. Yeah,
so you can learn from the tourists about your own town. Perversely, absolutely,
it's the city contains so many cities within it. That's
that's what I like. I mean, this is why I
could never imagine doing an episode about New York, because, yeah,
you could just do the West Village, could be an
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eight part season, that one they rode Alone and you.
But sort of the whole thing about being here, isn't
it You have an abundance of everything, and you always
know what you don't know. I like that. I find
it comforting. I find that comforting too. All right, So
we're here by the library. Here, we are by the
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Stephen Schwartzman Main Branch Library. Do you ever work here?
I actually have in that beautiful, beautiful room up there,
I forget the name of it right now, in the
Rose Reading Room. Yeah, the Rose Reading Room. You know,
for a while, people were coming in so regularly to
look at the ceiling. I felt like it was inhibiting
the behavior of some of the cranks there. Tell me
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more real, Like you used to go in there be
someone clipping their toenails across the table from you. I'm
working on their life's memoirs simultaneously. You So, when you
were younger, did you come here? Yeah? Yeah, But it
also didn't have as the exhibits in the gift shop
and things like that weren't as curated and you couldn't
get a bite d So a lot of the changes
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are terrific, but it's certainly more of a tour attraction. Yeah, okay, yeah,
we're here. We can have out all right when we
grab some lunch at the Oyster Bart. You know, when
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I first moved back here, i worked nearby. I would
take the train to Grand Central and still in love
with it. It's still does all the things for me.
I feel like, I don't know, there's such a romance
to it. Let's peak, Can we peak at the ceiling
and then we can go down to the Shall we
do the short cut to the Oh but um rush
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hour coming through here? Such great energy. So I just
read recently that six hundred thousand people is that a
possible passed through here on a given day, which is
the population of San Francisco, And rarely does anyone run
into each other. Everyone can just kind of do this
the urban ballet. That's true. If you, if you and
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if you want to even meet up with someone, we
always used to meet by the clock. Yeah for soft phones?
Can we open? Yeah? Oh, I'm sure there Eureka. So
we're going in the side door to the Oyster Saloon.
This place is so great if you want to do
the bar or the middle here, how will we do
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down here on the right? I love this the crossroms.
Theres a guy in a suit a dap pursuit having
a salad and a beers a cavar sand much please
tell me about that. See it's not only pretty affordable,
yeah I mean relatively speaking, but um delicious, unique and
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kind of luxurious. And I will get um the crab
cake sandwich and a nice tea thank you. Oyster Bar
is one of the spaces in New York which has
these these vaulted ceilings with gustamino tiling, so the acoustics
are kind of special. You can also always hear the
bustle of them making the pan rose and the oyster
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stew and um No, this place I find very comforting.
It's another one of those places in New York where
I'm just happy to know it's here. Un If I
don't go to it for like a couple of months,
you just know in the back of your mind, the
lightings here, the vibes here, the guys are here. I
like the places you can take for granted, that's so
much what I what I prize your caviar sandwich. I
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thought it was going to have cream inside it, but
it is just components of things that are good with
caviarts fantastic. Would you like to try some of my
crab cake. I'm not gonna you can finish. I don't
know if I can do both, but I will pack away.
One of the risks of coming to the Grand Central
Oyster Virus that my dad is often here. He makes
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all his appointments here, and his order is multiple bowls
of Manhattan clamchet. Yeah, why do you think? Do you
think he has a reasons he's here? Is the same
as you, is a fondness for these classic things. Now,
he loves Manhattan clam chatter. I've never met anyone who
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has a positive preference for it. The existence of Manhattan
clam chatter does not offend me. Dad loves it. Any
wisdom pearls of wisdom from New York? Is there a
writer you Meyer that really captured what your relationship is
in New York? And I don't want to misquote it,
but it's that Dorothy Parker quote. If you make it
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through the night. In New York, you can live through
anything or something. It's some great quote about depression. I'll
find you the real one, and the essence of it is,
um nights can New York can be hard, but if
you can make it, you feel not light in the
window of the neighboring building. It can be so lonely.
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Here would you see attraction because you're just surrounded by everyone,
but there's a wall. They still have all the barriers
to entry. But it's just like what you be what said?
Right for those who value such queer PRIs as New
York offers the gift of privacy, I'm gonna be mindful time. Okay,
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we're done here, I rose, we just paid, so we're good.
Thank you very much, thank you. Wow. Okay, so we are.
We're a whispering gallery in front of the Oyster Bar.
Which is how does this work? Again? I mean I
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don't I can't explain the physics, but where the arch
forms one of these acoustical odd of these found throughout
the world, including Saint Paul's most famously, I believe. Yeah,
And as you see, if we stand in opposite diagonal
ql far apart, that's like fifty. Yeah, all right, yeah,
let's try it. See if this works. Can you hear me?
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Oh my god, I can't hear you. Yeah, okay, let
me think I see okay, I don't have any Yeah,
I don't have any right now. This is zgol. But
I can say just thank you for coming to lunch
with me, and I hope you have a great rest
of your day anytime. All right, all my I wish
(26:39):
all my characters ended with me just talking into a corner. Yeah,
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finally some phone reception. Danielle, why is she? He Brannan,
It's Danielle. M Hi. I am unfortunately having a little
problem at home. I discovered a mouth in my kitchen.
So now I'm cleeping outside and I feel like I
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should probably figure out how to sleep inside again, since
you know that's the thing I'm paying my mortgage on.
Good luck with everything. Really sorry I couldn't be there.
I hope you have a great time. No, no, I
totally forgot. I invited people over for dinner tonight. I
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thought it was next Saturday. The farmer's market was right
near the office. All right, I gotta find a corner market,
Godega something. Oh shit, it's Alison Roman. Alison Roman. Yeah,
(28:13):
this is incredible. I am a fan of your books. Oh,
thank you. That is always nice to here. I used
to host this show called The Dinner Party Download. Probably
haven't heard of it. Oh yeah, I actually do know
about that though, Oh you do. Yeah, okay, well that
was my show. It's like, why am I not being
asked to be on the show? But I didn't take
it personally. It's fine. I mean we were we thought
you were a little fancy for us because you wrote
for Bonabati and besides we were based in La Yeah.
(28:36):
Because it's like you can only record a podcast in
the city that you record. I get it. It's like,
you know, all right, I still can't believe I ran
into you. I assumed you moved to Berkeley, where all
the food celebrities go. No, I mean I live in
New York, baby, greatest city in the world. So what
are you doing here? It's, you know, close to dinner time.
I'm doing some last minute pickups for my own little
dinner situation. Um. I know this is a weird thing,
(28:57):
but I just I totally spaced it. I was at
the office today and I now have to cook dinner
for six people in the next couple hours, had no
time to prepare. My kitchen is tiny, and so could
you give me some guidance like tonight, Yeah, okay, well surprise,
I think that's great. I actually almost exclusively only believe
(29:19):
in the last minute dinner party. So you're in luck.
When all is said and done, you could very happily
live your life off of shopping at about Degga, and
I do often. My mother now lives in the Burbs.
Whenever she visits me, her head turns when she passes
one of these places right here with like apples, mangoes, watermelons.
She just can't believe that there's fruit and veg on
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the street available twenty four hours a day. The idea
that you can walk into this place and you can
go in there and can get a green juice, You
can get string cheese. If you need a snack, you
can get a pack of chicken thighs. You can also
get tofu and kim chee, and like hot sauce and
noodles and anchovies and pretty much anything that you would
need to make your life feel complete. All right, So
(29:59):
you give me confidence, okay, So any dietary restrictions to
be aware of. I just don't. I think Brussels sprouts
are overrated. No, not for you specifically, what thank you
for that opinion. I'm armed at your guests. Oh no,
not No, people are pretty pretty much open their omnivores.
My friends are not afraid of carbohydrates, which I'm proud
of because I'm older, because like at gen X, like
lay millennials, like we're not as smart about feel like
(30:22):
all my friends are hot. Yeah, Europeans who love pasta
like they're all aging, soft round people. Yeah. Okay, So
if I'm you, I'm going to do like a simple
sort of lemony, mediterranean vibe pasta. Oh I like that,
like a few types of vegetables on the side, Well,
let's let's do it. Can we talk about celery for
a quick second, because I feel one of my favorite,
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absolute favorite vegetables. In fact, let's make a celery salad
for you. Okay, well maybe we should because I feel
like celery, the big Celery, has tricked us into buying
huge bunches of celery when I need like one stock
for my tuna fish. Well, if you're putting only one
stock in your tuna salad, you're doing it wrong because
you're Juna salad needs at least four stocks in like
(31:03):
a can. It should be like equal parts tuna, four
stocks per cam. Yeah, I'm constantly looking for Larry. I'm
constantly buy it because I go through it too much.
In fact, I think the bunches simply aren't large enough.
All right, well, let's go celery salad. Okay, we've got
candy laning Greens, which is kind of nice and very
Euro to me. They're very tart. I like that they're bitter,
but tars probably close to bitter if there was a
(31:25):
chart of flavor feelings. Let's agree to disagree. Okay, this
is bitter. To bring it back real quick. New York.
You think, oh, what a beautiful place. They have everything. Yeah,
but sometimes because they have everything, you're sort of paralyzed
by options, right, Like what direction do we go with? Ye?
Tell me about it. Do we do like a fresh
tomato e pasta? Do we do like a bitter green
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anchovy pasta? Do we do boiled potatoes with anchovies and
a soft egg? We do bitter green anchovy pasta? My
problem here is I have an acidy stomach. Oh and
tomatoes just kill me. Oh but pasta doesn't, doesn't Okay,
So yeah, I'm getting you a jar of cost to Okay,
we're just for snacking. You got them with bits. We
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didn't talk about drinks, Okay, I'm a martini guy. Yeah,
should I make them? Yeah? I think you should. Unfortunately,
what I learned over COVID and this could be I
can't drink tim Martinis anymore. And I used to say,
like a vodka Martin is an oxymoron. Yeah, I too
used to turn my nose a bit vodka martinis. But
in my old age they're just like better for my
gut and my next day. Yeah, I don't know. All right,
(32:29):
I'm glad we have this talk. Can I I can't
use those olives though, can I? Okay? Yeah, I mean
there'll be a pitt in there. But assuming you don't
want to buy two types of olives, maybe do you
know what? Let's just get Okay, Yeah, let's get them.
Malcolm Gladwell's paying. So what else do we need? Um?
Did you want to serve a salad on the side?
Are you gonna convince me on this celery thing? How
about we do celery and funnel together to cut a
little bit of the celery that looks like a lot
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of celery, perfect an cellery. Okay, wait, what are they eating?
She was just talking about impossibleming it. Oh yeah, I can't.
I can't eat it. The p proteins. Oh wow you
I was like doing the dietaris Chritians. You're like nope,
and then turns out over the courts of the last
ten minutes. You're like, I can't eat any Here's the
other thing. I'm a total Homas slot Like, I don't
(33:11):
make it. I eat any hummas. Yeah, like I'll eat
any of that stuff. One two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight types of hummas here. That's incredible. This is why
I live here. Now I'm reading new Yeah, okay, we're
looking at some cheese. We're gonna get you parmesan. This
bedega also has one two three four five types of parmesan,
(33:31):
not including the graded stuff, which I wouldn't buy. And
then dessert, what's your dessert move? Sometimes I do get grapes.
Sometimes I get a chocolate bar, like a tobleran for
the table is kind of a baller table tobleron. I
like that. Let's do it. Um, thank you? What a dream?
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Alison Roman just like grocery shopping for me the world.
So I hope you get home safe. I feel like
it's about to sky is about to open up. Wait what,
I didn't even look at my weather up today New
York summers. The rain comes in hot and fast. All right,
thank you very much, take care, welcome to see you later.
(34:20):
You've got to be kidding me, see all right, weather app?
Weather app? It doesn't even say rain. All right, someone,
we need to wait it out? What's going on here? Hey?
Hey there? Can I just wait here while the rain clears.
(34:40):
I had to go back to California visit my parents
because my aunt was visiting from Iran. I was like, oh,
my gosh, she's never been to the US. We absolutely
have to take her to eat a taco, right, And
my mom is like, oh, that is a good idea
about how is taste taco? And I was like, lady,
what do you mean how is taste taco? You've been
(35:01):
living here for fucking thirty years. You don't know how
is taste taco? No? Oh no? And I was so mad.
I was so mad. I was like, you fucking immigrants
come to this country. You don't try Mexican food. You're
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just an American that is absolutely TAXI. Hey, you're really
great up there. Thanks man, Thanks pretty early for a
(35:46):
comedy show. Huh Yeah, it's weird. They do it at
all times these days. You're the first person I've seen
hail a cab here in a couple of years. Frankly,
most people are on Uber. I like to hail a cab.
It's one of those things that you can do basically
only in New York City. So I appreciate that. But
it's pouring rain. I think it's gonna be a minute
for you get a cab. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
(36:06):
So I'm guessing that being a comedian and MC is
not for the faint of heart. Like I admire you
for going up there. You must be very brave. It's
like ultimately very self serving, you know what I mean.
If there's one thing I learned during the pandemic is
that comedians are the least essential workers. You know. I
have a question, so New York audiences versus other audiences.
(36:28):
Is there distinguishing traits? Are they different? You know? It's
interesting because I remember Lewis Black said to me once another,
you know, just amazing comedian. He said to me after
the show. You know, Nigine, you speak really fast, and
you can't speak that fast in other parts of the country.
When he said that to me, I was like, oh, okay,
(36:50):
Like and I think in some parts of the country,
I do like slow it down a little bit. I
slow it down because also in New York City, I
think everything is just a little bit more fast pace,
including just the pace of which people like literally speak,
And that's just a cultural thing over here. And also
the other thing is notts a megas who cheese you
get here? But I met my husband here and my
(37:14):
husband is an actor and he's black, and um I'm
Iranian and Muslim, and that makes our baby a Blaranian.
And it's the kind of you know, this is the
kind of family that could only happen in the United
States and more specific and it's just like way more
(37:40):
likely to happen in New York City. And also like
you know, we have this like this Russian neighbor who
also speaks Farsi. I mean, what you know, and so
so like you know, a few times a week, like
my daughter speaks Farsi with this Russian guy who may
or may not be an alcoholic. That's a story for
another time. But like that's the weird kind of thing
she's just going to be exposed to that. It's like
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it's not weird to her that, like one of our
neighbors is from Uzbekistan, but then the other one is
from Turkey, and then another one's from Mexico. Like these
are just very normal things for you also live in
the United Nations to care and that is just I
feel like this little miracle of a family owes a
(38:24):
debt to New York City. And speaking of miracles in
New York City, I think this cab open, I think
that might be yours. Thanks so much for chatting with me. Yeah,
this was unexpectedly a fun conversation. M Hey, Brendan, Um,
(38:45):
where are you are You still planning to cook tonight?
People are starting to show up and I'm just feeding
them wine and this hummus from the fridge. But let
me know when you're going to arrive. All right, Well,
at least the rain's clearing up. What are the odds
of getting another cab? Right? I think we've been get
(39:09):
city bike. I hope these groceries can fit on a
city bike. Okay, one bike left. Oh shit, Hey, hey,
excuse me. This is the last city bike. That's why
I'm taking it. Yeah, but I really, Um, I have
a dinner party I have to be at, and I
swear I know that the city doesn't cut people breaks. No,
(39:31):
I gotta it's I'm just going home. I'm no, but
I'm like a fellow human who's asking you to just
cut me. Appreciate that fellow human. Good luck walking. Wait
a second, are you dem Taberski? This are walking and
I'm not walking to Brooklyn. Well, you can at least
check out my podcast not Lost. Yeah, great, I'll check
it out. Got it. Oh, here's a city bike then
(39:53):
filled with bikes. Hey there, did you see that guy
take the last bike from me? Yes? I did, such
a jerk. Are there any bikes nearby? Um? Yeah, we
have a couple of bikes at the station. We can
check them out and see if they're ridable. It seems
like whenever I really need a city bike, there's not
a bike, Like what? What? What is that just my misperception?
(40:14):
Do I have the wrong time of day that I'm
always hitting them? Um? That just means there's a lot
of people using the bikes. I mean, I guess it's
like New York in general. Right, Okay, Can I like, hey,
you to get a bike from the back of your truck? Oh? No,
absolutely not. I can't. I need to get to Brooklyn.
Are are you drying? Are you riding there? Can I
get a ride with you? Sure? Why not? You would
do that for me? Don't tell anyone, I won't. Your
(40:37):
boss will never know this happened, believe me. Thank you
so much. All right, So are your bike mechanics just
like working full on all the time, depending on the season. Yes,
right now we have at our depots we have twenty
four operations. Really Pixen bikesix bikes. That's wild. Same thing
with moving the bikes were twenty four, twenty four hour operations. Well,
(41:00):
and now I feel bad because I often, you know,
I love city bike, I love the exercise. I'm a
pretty much like a like a eight to seven PM
can so I need a bike then in the morning
and then at seven And I feel like often, you know,
the bikes are gone because so many people use them,
and I feel like I need to have a different
life style in order to get more bikes, you know
(41:20):
what I mean. Well, that's part of what we do,
you know, balancing the system based off of trends. That
can be challenging at times, but we definitely work on those.
How often do you ride? I used to ride a
lot more, but I work from home now a lot,
so I ride less. See. Look, there's a city bike
driver drivers. That's another thing. You gotta always watch out
(41:41):
for the bicyclists because they're crazy. They're people people just
popping in and outs or even in between the vehicles.
So I got to always make sure that you're on
the alert. They can't kill the golden goose, though, because
this is the thing delivering the bikes, right absolutely, Maybe
City Bike could do what you do to make extra money.
They could make your actual delivery vans like this one,
(42:03):
you know, ubers or cabs. For something to think about.
I'm just you know, just try I'm thinking this is
this could be like the city Bike Deluxe service. There
could be a special button on your app that you press.
Have you really need this city Bike your way exactly,
City Bikes Chauffeur City Bike Gags. I feel thank you
(42:26):
so much for giving me this ride. Okay, well, we
got to do a better job at we balancing the system.
We'll have a bike for you next. All right, thank
you very much. But now, hey, Brendan, Christy, here, have
(42:47):
you decided where you're going to record your last episode?
The clock is ticking. Yeah, I'm aware of that. Oh hey, Christy,
currently thinking either Reno or Atlanta. We'll confirm tomorrow. Oh hey,
(43:32):
you guys to show up? Do you believe it? Seems
like you guys gotta started without me. Oh yeah, you're
way behind. You better start cooking because I think we're drama.
(43:53):
I could use a drink. As the lead producer on
this this season finale of season one of Not Lost
was Bart Covid Won't Stop Me Warshaw, who also sound
designed and mixed the episode. Who so happy to be
sharing with you guys for coming. Sorry was late. The
(44:22):
show was also produced and written by me Brendan. I
can't get Covid until I'm done with this show. France
has Newnham. Where were you? I was at the office,
So how is your show? I mean, I still haven't
figured out where my last episode is going to be.
You should just junior year. That's not bad idea. Our
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associate producer was Amy Gaines with additional production assistance from
Jacob Smith and aitorial guidance provided by Julia Barton's Mustard Greens.
I wanted to do like a bitter pasta thing, and
then there's a fennel and celery salad. I know some
people don't like celery, but I love really interesting. Yeah,
I'm a big Celery fan myself. I feel like there's
(45:04):
not enough Celery in a Celery bunch. Not Lost is
a co production of Push Can Industries, Topic Studios and
iHeartMedia just developed a Topic Studios. The show's executive producers
Army Christy Gressman, Maria Zuckerman, Lisa ling Gang, and lat Lade.
Our theme song was created by Alexis Georgiopolis aka Art.
(45:25):
He's done our new album coming out on Mexican Summer
called New Pleasures. Who doesn't want those? Check it out?
They give me cole sours and Walna Zach actively made
my mouth to one to five. I will stab you
with my party. Our artwork is by Topic Studios and
(45:50):
thanks to all the New Yorkers who I ran into
last Saturday, including Tony Haddad from Clean Green Cleaners, Will
from Freeway Entertainment, Emma Hendrickson, Malcolm Gladwell, Sadie Stein looked
for her byline Alison Roman, whose video series entitled Home
Movies is worth your time attention, even if she's a
(46:10):
show for the Celery industrial Complex. Also thanks to comedian
Nagheen Frasad and Shimika from City Bike promised not to
tell your boss about the ride and the special Thank
you to David Glover at Pushkin and Big Bus Tours,
and to dinner partiers Madeline Leon Coleman, Bernadette Napoleon, Robin Hendrickson,
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Amy Martin and a little visiting puppy named Sequoia. And
since this is our final episode of this season, I
have more people than usual to thank. First, I'd like
to rethank Latom Malaud, who not only executive produced the
series but greenlittit a topic. Thank you for having faith
in this idea and producers. Sound designer Crystal Duke Came
(46:54):
who helped build the pilot episode, and of course my
friend Daniel Henderson. Her memoir The Ugly Cry is out
in paperback now. You should really check it out. Also,
the producer Tali Abacasis, who sent the humor and calm
prevailed during some challenging circumstances, and to the great Jackson
Musker who helped me map out the itinerary for the
(47:14):
first handful of episodes. He wrote the award winning Audible
original called The Sea in the Sky contains astronauts, humor
and pathos. And thank you to Hilu Mergia, whose song
Wetti harar guzzo pig I'm pronouncing that right has been
our credit soundtrack. You're hearing it now. I first met
Hilu at a concert years ago and Marfa, Texas. He
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is such a gentleman and his music is fantastic. You
can't go wrong. Check him out wherever you listen to music.
Thanks to Jenny Bedusa, Ethan Light, Michelle Lands, Alex Giga
from Topic Studios, and a big special thanks to everyone
at my home Pushkin. So many people champion the show
and helped it along the way, Mia LaBelle, Heather Faine,
(47:56):
Carrie Brodie, Carli Migliordi, Edith Russelo, David Glover, Danielle Lakhan,
Christina Sullivan, Jason Gambrell. Were sang all their names in
a sing songy way, but each one of them made
a specific contribution. The great marketing team Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor,
Morgan Ratner, Nicole Morano, Isabella Navarrez, Jordan McMillan, Sean Carney,
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and Mary Beth Smith. Royston deserve, Maya Kanig, Justine Lange,
and a special special thanks to John Snars who helped
bring the show over to Pushkin, and to our fearless
leader Jacob Weisberg, who was very supportive of this project.
How could I have any more people to thank? I
don't know, but I do. I need to give a
special thanks to my colleagues at Pushkin Audio Books who
(48:40):
made the space for me to work on this project.
Jasmine Faustino, Kerry Colin and Nick White, Thank you. And last,
but not least, thanks to you for listening. This is
not your average travel show and I'm thrilled that A
connected with so many listeners. Please keep spreading the word
head to Apple Podcasts, rate review it. I appreciate you.
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You can also send your audio postcards to not Lost
at Pushkin dot fm, who've received a couple already and
they've been really tough watching. You can learn more about
Topic Studios at topic studios dot com. To find more
Pushkin podcast listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever
you listen to podcasts. I'm Brendan France has Newnham. I'll
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be back in a few months. I'm actually going to
go on a real vacation. I'm not even gonna bring
my recording device. I may or may not crash your
dinner party. But I'll be back in a few months
with some chat versions of Not Lost. More about that later.
Until then, the pleasure has been mine.
Pushkin m Ran next week for a conversation. This is
(00:39):
not Lost California, so far out of my feeling. I
am Brendan. Friends's new in him great, feel great that
it's not in New York. That's my friend, the audio
producer John Delor, just like it is an incredible joy
to just be out of the city. Yes, right, thank you,
(01:09):
thank you. Every day. Hey, Tony, how's Brooklyn's most popular
dry cleaner doing the most? You're always doing something, the
most famous guy in Greenpoint. I'm happy to have a
presence with you. Listen. I'm glad that I see almost everything.
You are truly a fixture in this neighborhood. I don't
(01:29):
know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
That's an amazing thing. Come on, you're like the original.
You're like the original. Don't don't don't. So what are
you up to? I got looking sharp, you're looking sharper.
I'm going to the office. But you drop these off,
all right? You got a couple of shirts, Just gonna
put them on the rock outside. I'm trying to get
(01:49):
a lot of money from him. I'm gonna say this,
this is Brendan shirts. How you know I have a
feeling we're gonna have ninety degrees, but it's not what
you want, so dred degrees for like three months? Yeah? Yeah, never, No,
I not so hot today? What are we doing here? Why?
(02:13):
Why are we in New York City? Where would you
rather be? Like I I understand what you try, but
where would you rather be? Well that's the problem when
I really think about it, I don't know the answer.
And it seems like New York is a good place
to not have the answer. Yeah, but I mean where
else can you have this? You're you're pointing towards a
there's a bag of trash out front, and uh, well
it's part of the scenery. Welcome to New York. Look,
(02:36):
there's a dog that wants to stop in. Do you
tell me? Where could you be? And you can have
this kind of interaction with people nowhere? It's fair. We're
both social people and this city is a gift that
keeps giving. Come on, I mean, you walked down a street,
you say hello to this one, that one, you talk
to this one. I mean, you're gonna be where. But
the thing about New York, though, it's like it does
like beat you down. Man, It's like it's not an
easy place to live. You got to tell me what's easy.
(02:57):
I mean, you can live up state and you're gonna
come out in the morning and complain about what snow
bears exactly the birds? And you grew up in the city, right, yes, yes,
I was born lebon On. I didn't Okay, you're born
in Beirut or I was one outside of me? Is
that when your parents came here? They came in eighty two,
(03:18):
right after the embassy Embassy bombing, and I went to
Canarsi High School and you turned out. Okay, I think, yeah,
I think you can have a dressed for my girlfriend
and paint and black dress. Thank you, thank you. So
you've seen me now for years. We've known each for
(03:38):
a long time. It's how have I changed it at all?
In your eyes in the past, like four or five years?
Grumpy year, that's true. I still love you, but you're
a different grumpy. You're like a cool grumpy you know. Okay,
thank you? You have to annoying grumpy like you want
to like get away from them. No, no, it's the
cool grumpy all right. So Tony, I have to travel
(04:01):
one more place. So what what's your show about? Is it.
I go places with a friend and I try to
get invited to a dinner party. So I've done it. Montreal,
Mexico City, Boza Montana, big sir, I've done this, and
I have one more episode to make. And your kid
who came up and out it didn't we us? Well?
I mean I could are you this weeking, aren't you?
(04:22):
I mean, I gotta make this show, man, I gott
if this is what I'm spending my afternoon doing, I
got I'm going to the office after this to kind
of I mean, what you want to come up like
Sunday night. That's tempting, but I seriously have to figure
out this episode first. But speaking of which, I gotta go,
So Tony, I'll see you later. Man, Thank you well.
I enjoy your beautiful day. And again you're looking sharp.
(04:43):
Thank you. Thanks man. I'm glad that you know you
help me stay this way. Oh look at this another
beautiful day. Hey Emma, Emma, Hi, what are you doing.
I'm coming out of the library right. Do you only
(05:05):
get one book at a time? Yeah, because I never
want to have a fi ever, that's probably wise. So
where's your mom? My favorite former college classmate? Oh? She
left me here. But I guess you're old enough. Now,
how old are you? I'm twelve. See, I thought I
was young in New York when I moved here in
my twenties, But you're like really young in New York.
Where are you going? I'm actually going to the office.
(05:27):
It's a Saturday though, I know. But remember I told
you about that travel podcast I was working on. I
have to make one more episode, and I have no
idea where I'm going. All right, where do you think
I should go? Um? Maybe I saw it in some
TV show Reno Reno. Yeah, yeah, I did Las Vegas already,
(05:47):
so I think I'm gonna I'm gonna skip Reno. But um,
are you walking this way? I'm going up to the
l Yeah, all right, let's do it. This neighborhood when
I first moved here was nothing. This was like auto repair.
Only my mom talks about it being like Williamsburg. Like
when she was younger, it was like who But now
Williamsburg is like chic. Yeah, it's like vegan, gluten free,
(06:10):
food free restaurants. So what do you think about Waysber?
Do you like living here? Yeah? I want to live
in New York for my whole life. My mom tells
me that I'm too young to decide that, But I
like the fact that being a New Yorker is like
being in a club. So what are the membership benefits
of being part of that club. There's a lot of
(06:32):
like arts and performing arts stuff in New York, I
mean Broadway, but like it's just all these different things
that are like New Yorker experiences. And also like pizza
and bagels. I mean, pizza isn't specific to New York,
but the best pizza it's in New York. Now you're
making me hungry. Should we get a Joe's get a
slice of pizza? Yeah? Okay, let's do it feel so
(06:56):
far away though, it's let's to get there every single day.
So day a little hectic up here. It appears to
be an out door sports bar, so what happens when
it rains exactly? But it's also a thing wonder of
(07:16):
having so many So much partying is bad for kids
like you, No, because to be living in New York
you have to be good at ignoring things. Because we're
also tightly packed together, right, you got to just keep
it cool. Yeah, you just have to kind of not engage.
We also just point out. Sorry to interrupt, but I'm
six foot three and I've just been walking like full pace,
(07:40):
not even calibrating, and you are just right along my side.
I also walk really fast to get to school, and
I think that dozes in New York, so that everyone's
just trucking like we don't have time for that. Also,
you've gotten taller, which helps with the fast walking. You're
like shot up like stalks of corn. Yeah, that's the thing.
(08:02):
A lot of the boys in my class haven't gone
to that yet. Some I think I'm taller than all
of them. Yeah, the boys will catch up, but their
brains won't. They'll always be behind you. They think they're
so funny too. They think that they just they got
the whole crowd laughing with their jokes, but they really didn't.
And like they're not funny. Can't you can't get like
(08:24):
knock on their heads and nothing in there? No, I
mean I can't talk. You know, I have this show.
But I'm just being a boy who thinks he's funny sometimes.
All right, pizza, wow, pizza plates is packed? Oh my god,
what's your pizza move? Just plane perni if it's at
(08:45):
a party, Let's get to plane. All right, thanks, have
a good It just came out of the oven. It's
very hot. I'm very passionate about this. Every time we
get into talking about the correct way to eat pizza,
which is to fold the pizza, people argue about it,
(09:07):
and that's not fold your pizza. It is better and
everyone should do it. Why do you think it's better?
It's better for walking traveling, and it's also I think
it's like you get a better mouth feel and you
get more more per bite. It's like a pizza sandwich.
We can walk a little bit and then I'll go
(09:29):
into the subway. Look how crazy Bedford is though, Wasn't
this busy when you were when you're young? But I
feel like New York City has so many different people.
That's one of the things I love most about it.
What do you mean, like there are such huge communities
(09:51):
and you can be whoever you want to be in
New York City and there will be a community of
people that like relate to you when are the same
like and feel the same way as you about something.
And that's like pretty much a guarantee living in New
York City. Because there's just so many individuals, there's bound
to be a person who looks the same thing as
(10:12):
you go. Yeah, I agree with that. It makes me
feel less alone, even if I don't know all those people.
You're right, I always feel like I'll figure it out here.
All right, This is I gotta hop into the l
It was nice chatting with you. You too, see you later.
(10:41):
Dance clear of the closing doors, please, it's so time,
basic gentlemen, gather around. It's about to begin, So time,
So time, dude. Is this called showtime what you're doing?
Or is this dance? It's actually we call it hitting.
(11:02):
It's called hitting. What he want? Is it called hits?
Anically a street performing what we callte it hitting because
it's like it's a hit. It's a lot of him
when we come out here and do this. It's a
big impact on New York City. It's a hit. How
did you get into it? It's such a it's such
intense activity. Yeah. I got into it because but I
was in high school. I met a friend freshman year
and he was a dancer because his father did it,
(11:23):
and he ain't mighty meet downtown because he seen I
was a good dancer, and I took her from there
and I was like, what over fifteen years ago, what's
the craziest thing that's happened to you while you've been
doing this. The craziest thing that happened to me was
one guy gave me eight hundred dollars and yeah in
one setting, just like because he's just so blown away.
He was blowing away and he split it amongst the teams.
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A lot of people want to train and they get
annoyed and aggravated in general. So when they come in
here a lot of music on the train, it's like,
oh boy, here we go. And I have to admit
I love it. I've been that guy because like you,
I'm going to work at a long night, you're getting
an argument and you're on the train. They turn there
and you're like, oh no, I'm on the longest link
of the train. Yeah, And it makes sense. It's such
a small area and it's it's sometimes you're flipping and
you're like so close to them, they'll get nervous. I
(12:05):
don't want to get hit. But what's amazing is that
most times I've been I've seen short time on the
train and like a hundred times, no one's ever been here. Yeah, Um,
my friend had he did a first flip and he
landed on a ladies lap. Don't lap like she was
like if she was saying so, and she was like oh,
but she wasn't upset. She's like, oh, wow, you know
how many of you? How many people? How many short
(12:25):
time people do you think there is? It's a lot.
It's a shoe for a lot of cruise. Chit you
park Tom Square, thirty fourth Street, Junior Square, all over
New York. Ask well, thanks so much for talking. Of course,
man little Bible. You guys are great, Thank you, No
(12:57):
I would be balking, like, how are you worried on Saturday?
Thank you? Hey, Amy Top, Hey, my name is Malcolm Gladwell.
(13:18):
Welcome to my podcast about here recording right now? Yeah, misunderstood.
Wait did I just hear someone come in here? Brendon's here? Brendan? Yeah?
What's he doing here on a Saturday? Can we talk
about his travel show for a second. We're sending him
all over the country to find himself. It's bananas, Malcolm, Well,
at least it's not a true crime show. Hey Brendon,
can hear you? Oh? Hey Malcolm, Hey Bendon, it makes
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you feel any better? I haven't actually listened to your show.
Yet I think that makes me feel better. I guess
it's good to see people here on a Saturday. You know,
when I worked in LA, I would work all these saturdays.
I never ran into anyone. What does it say about
New York that I come into the office and there's
a bunch of you here today. Well this, this actually
gets into one of my larger theories about New York,
(14:06):
which is New York life is exterior. LA life is interior. Right,
So the implicit bargain you make in moving to New
York is that you're buying the exterior, not the interior.
So of course New Yorkers are in the office on
Saturday because the existence of the office is a reason
to go there. Right, It's a that's good. It's a
(14:26):
good reason to get out of my tiny apartment, which,
by the way, is the Great paradox. It's another one
my theories, this is the Great Paradox. So the New
York City turnaround in the mid nineties coincides with three
television sitcoms which celebrate the life of young people living
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in New York. Right, Everyone's Out Seinfeld, Friends, Will and
Grace Right, Boom boom, Boom and now all of those
cell a vision of New York that's tremendously appealing to
people around the country, and they're part of the Revival's
extraordinary revival that New York comes back from the dead
in the nineties and propelled I think by the power
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of this fantasy. The fantasy it is completely wrong. Why
is the fantasy wrong Because the people in those shows
never leave their apartment. Now, they'll never leave their apartment
for TV reasons, because that's the set. But like two cameras,
it's an La vision of a New York life. Right,
there's those shows are They were all made in La La,
(15:29):
of course, so they construct these fabulous New York City
apartments that people never leave, which is one hundred percent wrong. Right.
It's the great irony of New York's revival is it
was propelled by a completely false picture of what living
in New York. Man. Yeah, um, all right, So I
still have to pick another place in America, North America.
(15:52):
Do you have any suggestions for me? I should maybe
think about going to Well, I mean, my favorites are
all the kind of like you know, Nashville. I do
love have a I have a great and overpowering love
of an Atlanta I'm going to this week. I'm just
full of excited about my trip to Atlanta. Um and
(16:14):
I just welcome. I need you back in the booth.
Sounds like you gotta go anyway, all right, Malcolm, thanks
for the chat. Thank you, See you later, Amy. I
still have no idea what he shows about. Welcome. Wait
still here is later, Malcolm. The subway is down there,
(16:47):
no trains at the station. If you need to get uptown,
you're gonna take the buses over there. The subway is
closed again. Yep. Wait those buses over there. Yes, the
buses right over there. You're going to cross the street
and take those buses you need to get up like
tour buses. That's what they are. They are tour buses,
but they're on a different route. They're gonna take you uptown. Jesus, okay,
(17:12):
subway's clothes. Sadie, Hey, oh my god, high so good
to see you. Of course I would find Sadie Stein
woman about town here in Union Square on a Saturday.
Use my absorption. You're just deep in your phone. What
are you doing? Are you? It was as usual, trying
to figure out the transportation situation in this city. I know.
(17:34):
Then they're pointing us to take these buses. You think
this is a better idea at this hour than walking?
Because this was a calculus. I was actually mid well,
you know what, it's an opportunity for us to be
on the top of a tour bus, so maybe we
should just go for it. All right? What else am
I dear? Maybe we can Maybe we'll take this up
the ground Central and sort it out from that. Really
(17:54):
that's perfect because I have to be on the sixth
after Okay, great, Well, I'm just speaking to see if
we can get upstairs if anyone's leaving. But I don't
think anyone is leaving. Oh let's try it. Let's go
potagraph these two right here? Oh yeah, let's do those.
I always thought this is probably the best way to
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see the city. I've done it in London, but never
done it in New York. What are like three sady
spots us tell people to check out to get all
the flavor of your New York. All right, I guess
I'd say Whispering Gallery at Grand Central. This is where
people can stand at opposite sides of this arch and
(18:36):
the person will hear it on the other side, walk
over the Brooklyn Bridge Classicum, and then maybe the picture
gallery of the New York Historical Society, the Dancing Bears.
Where is the New York Historical Society on the West side?
It's on West End. I mean, how do you feel
(18:59):
about I've now been here on and off for a
couple of decades, and I'm finally coming to terms of
this is my home, and I get grumpy that I
have to share it all the time. What is your
take on sharing the town with visitors? That's what I
like about it, But but you know how perverse I am.
I like I like Times Square, I love tourists. I
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love talking to them, giving them directions. I'm so proud
of the city and showing it off, and it interests
me what is the city they're seeing? It's so different
from anything we've ever known. I mean, I haven't been
to the Statue of Liberty since I went on a
sixth grade school trip. I have never been to the
top of the Empire State Building because there's never the
(19:41):
day when you want to stand in line for two hours. Yeah,
so you can learn from the tourists about your own town. Perversely, absolutely,
it's the city contains so many cities within it. That's
that's what I like. I mean, this is why I
could never imagine doing an episode about New York, because, yeah,
you could just do the West Village, could be an
(20:01):
eight part season, that one they rode Alone and you.
But sort of the whole thing about being here, isn't
it You have an abundance of everything, and you always
know what you don't know. I like that. I find
it comforting. I find that comforting too. All right, So
we're here by the library. Here, we are by the
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Stephen Schwartzman Main Branch Library. Do you ever work here?
I actually have in that beautiful, beautiful room up there,
I forget the name of it right now, in the
Rose Reading Room. Yeah, the Rose Reading Room. You know,
for a while, people were coming in so regularly to
look at the ceiling. I felt like it was inhibiting
the behavior of some of the cranks there. Tell me
(20:44):
more real, Like you used to go in there be
someone clipping their toenails across the table from you. I'm
working on their life's memoirs simultaneously. You So, when you
were younger, did you come here? Yeah? Yeah, But it
also didn't have as the exhibits in the gift shop
and things like that weren't as curated and you couldn't
get a bite d So a lot of the changes
(21:05):
are terrific, but it's certainly more of a tour attraction. Yeah, okay, yeah,
we're here. We can have out all right when we
grab some lunch at the Oyster Bart. You know, when
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I first moved back here, i worked nearby. I would
take the train to Grand Central and still in love
with it. It's still does all the things for me.
I feel like, I don't know, there's such a romance
to it. Let's peak, Can we peak at the ceiling
and then we can go down to the Shall we
do the short cut to the Oh but um rush
(21:49):
hour coming through here? Such great energy. So I just
read recently that six hundred thousand people is that a
possible passed through here on a given day, which is
the population of San Francisco, And rarely does anyone run
into each other. Everyone can just kind of do this
the urban ballet. That's true. If you, if you and
(22:11):
if you want to even meet up with someone, we
always used to meet by the clock. Yeah for soft phones?
Can we open? Yeah? Oh, I'm sure there Eureka. So
we're going in the side door to the Oyster Saloon.
This place is so great if you want to do
the bar or the middle here, how will we do
(22:31):
down here on the right? I love this the crossroms.
Theres a guy in a suit a dap pursuit having
a salad and a beers a cavar sand much please
tell me about that. See it's not only pretty affordable,
yeah I mean relatively speaking, but um delicious, unique and
(22:56):
kind of luxurious. And I will get um the crab
cake sandwich and a nice tea thank you. Oyster Bar
is one of the spaces in New York which has
these these vaulted ceilings with gustamino tiling, so the acoustics
are kind of special. You can also always hear the
bustle of them making the pan rose and the oyster
(23:20):
stew and um No, this place I find very comforting.
It's another one of those places in New York where
I'm just happy to know it's here. Un If I
don't go to it for like a couple of months,
you just know in the back of your mind, the
lightings here, the vibes here, the guys are here. I
like the places you can take for granted, that's so
much what I what I prize your caviar sandwich. I
(23:41):
thought it was going to have cream inside it, but
it is just components of things that are good with
caviarts fantastic. Would you like to try some of my
crab cake. I'm not gonna you can finish. I don't
know if I can do both, but I will pack away.
One of the risks of coming to the Grand Central
Oyster Virus that my dad is often here. He makes
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all his appointments here, and his order is multiple bowls
of Manhattan clamchet. Yeah, why do you think? Do you
think he has a reasons he's here? Is the same
as you, is a fondness for these classic things. Now,
he loves Manhattan clam chatter. I've never met anyone who
(24:23):
has a positive preference for it. The existence of Manhattan
clam chatter does not offend me. Dad loves it. Any
wisdom pearls of wisdom from New York? Is there a
writer you Meyer that really captured what your relationship is
in New York? And I don't want to misquote it,
but it's that Dorothy Parker quote. If you make it
(24:47):
through the night. In New York, you can live through
anything or something. It's some great quote about depression. I'll
find you the real one, and the essence of it is,
um nights can New York can be hard, but if
you can make it, you feel not light in the
window of the neighboring building. It can be so lonely.
(25:10):
Here would you see attraction because you're just surrounded by everyone,
but there's a wall. They still have all the barriers
to entry. But it's just like what you be what said?
Right for those who value such queer PRIs as New
York offers the gift of privacy, I'm gonna be mindful time. Okay,
(25:32):
we're done here, I rose, we just paid, so we're good.
Thank you very much, thank you. Wow. Okay, so we are.
We're a whispering gallery in front of the Oyster Bar.
Which is how does this work? Again? I mean I
(25:53):
don't I can't explain the physics, but where the arch
forms one of these acoustical odd of these found throughout
the world, including Saint Paul's most famously, I believe. Yeah,
And as you see, if we stand in opposite diagonal
ql far apart, that's like fifty. Yeah, all right, yeah,
let's try it. See if this works. Can you hear me?
(26:18):
Oh my god, I can't hear you. Yeah, okay, let
me think I see okay, I don't have any Yeah,
I don't have any right now. This is zgol. But
I can say just thank you for coming to lunch
with me, and I hope you have a great rest
of your day anytime. All right, all my I wish
(26:39):
all my characters ended with me just talking into a corner. Yeah,
(27:00):
finally some phone reception. Danielle, why is she? He Brannan,
It's Danielle. M Hi. I am unfortunately having a little
problem at home. I discovered a mouth in my kitchen.
So now I'm cleeping outside and I feel like I
(27:20):
should probably figure out how to sleep inside again, since
you know that's the thing I'm paying my mortgage on.
Good luck with everything. Really sorry I couldn't be there.
I hope you have a great time. No, no, I
totally forgot. I invited people over for dinner tonight. I
(27:43):
thought it was next Saturday. The farmer's market was right
near the office. All right, I gotta find a corner market,
Godega something. Oh shit, it's Alison Roman. Alison Roman. Yeah,
(28:13):
this is incredible. I am a fan of your books. Oh,
thank you. That is always nice to here. I used
to host this show called The Dinner Party Download. Probably
haven't heard of it. Oh yeah, I actually do know
about that though, Oh you do. Yeah, okay, well that
was my show. It's like, why am I not being
asked to be on the show? But I didn't take
it personally. It's fine. I mean we were we thought
you were a little fancy for us because you wrote
for Bonabati and besides we were based in La Yeah.
(28:36):
Because it's like you can only record a podcast in
the city that you record. I get it. It's like,
you know, all right, I still can't believe I ran
into you. I assumed you moved to Berkeley, where all
the food celebrities go. No, I mean I live in
New York, baby, greatest city in the world. So what
are you doing here? It's, you know, close to dinner time.
I'm doing some last minute pickups for my own little
dinner situation. Um. I know this is a weird thing,
(28:57):
but I just I totally spaced it. I was at
the office today and I now have to cook dinner
for six people in the next couple hours, had no
time to prepare. My kitchen is tiny, and so could
you give me some guidance like tonight, Yeah, okay, well surprise,
I think that's great. I actually almost exclusively only believe
(29:19):
in the last minute dinner party. So you're in luck.
When all is said and done, you could very happily
live your life off of shopping at about Degga, and
I do often. My mother now lives in the Burbs.
Whenever she visits me, her head turns when she passes
one of these places right here with like apples, mangoes, watermelons.
She just can't believe that there's fruit and veg on
(29:39):
the street available twenty four hours a day. The idea
that you can walk into this place and you can
go in there and can get a green juice, You
can get string cheese. If you need a snack, you
can get a pack of chicken thighs. You can also
get tofu and kim chee, and like hot sauce and
noodles and anchovies and pretty much anything that you would
need to make your life feel complete. All right, So
(29:59):
you give me confidence, okay, So any dietary restrictions to
be aware of. I just don't. I think Brussels sprouts
are overrated. No, not for you specifically, what thank you
for that opinion. I'm armed at your guests. Oh no,
not No, people are pretty pretty much open their omnivores.
My friends are not afraid of carbohydrates, which I'm proud
of because I'm older, because like at gen X, like
lay millennials, like we're not as smart about feel like
(30:22):
all my friends are hot. Yeah, Europeans who love pasta
like they're all aging, soft round people. Yeah. Okay, So
if I'm you, I'm going to do like a simple
sort of lemony, mediterranean vibe pasta. Oh I like that,
like a few types of vegetables on the side, Well,
let's let's do it. Can we talk about celery for
a quick second, because I feel one of my favorite,
(30:43):
absolute favorite vegetables. In fact, let's make a celery salad
for you. Okay, well maybe we should because I feel
like celery, the big Celery, has tricked us into buying
huge bunches of celery when I need like one stock
for my tuna fish. Well, if you're putting only one
stock in your tuna salad, you're doing it wrong because
you're Juna salad needs at least four stocks in like
(31:03):
a can. It should be like equal parts tuna, four
stocks per cam. Yeah, I'm constantly looking for Larry. I'm
constantly buy it because I go through it too much.
In fact, I think the bunches simply aren't large enough.
All right, well, let's go celery salad. Okay, we've got
candy laning Greens, which is kind of nice and very
Euro to me. They're very tart. I like that they're bitter,
but tars probably close to bitter if there was a
(31:25):
chart of flavor feelings. Let's agree to disagree. Okay, this
is bitter. To bring it back real quick. New York.
You think, oh, what a beautiful place. They have everything. Yeah,
but sometimes because they have everything, you're sort of paralyzed
by options, right, Like what direction do we go with? Ye?
Tell me about it. Do we do like a fresh
tomato e pasta? Do we do like a bitter green
(31:45):
anchovy pasta? Do we do boiled potatoes with anchovies and
a soft egg? We do bitter green anchovy pasta? My
problem here is I have an acidy stomach. Oh and
tomatoes just kill me. Oh but pasta doesn't, doesn't Okay,
So yeah, I'm getting you a jar of cost to Okay,
we're just for snacking. You got them with bits. We
(32:07):
didn't talk about drinks, Okay, I'm a martini guy. Yeah,
should I make them? Yeah? I think you should. Unfortunately,
what I learned over COVID and this could be I
can't drink tim Martinis anymore. And I used to say,
like a vodka Martin is an oxymoron. Yeah, I too
used to turn my nose a bit vodka martinis. But
in my old age they're just like better for my
gut and my next day. Yeah, I don't know. All right,
(32:29):
I'm glad we have this talk. Can I I can't
use those olives though, can I? Okay? Yeah, I mean
there'll be a pitt in there. But assuming you don't
want to buy two types of olives, maybe do you
know what? Let's just get Okay, Yeah, let's get them.
Malcolm Gladwell's paying. So what else do we need? Um?
Did you want to serve a salad on the side?
Are you gonna convince me on this celery thing? How
about we do celery and funnel together to cut a
little bit of the celery that looks like a lot
(32:49):
of celery, perfect an cellery. Okay, wait, what are they eating?
She was just talking about impossibleming it. Oh yeah, I can't.
I can't eat it. The p proteins. Oh wow you
I was like doing the dietaris Chritians. You're like nope,
and then turns out over the courts of the last
ten minutes. You're like, I can't eat any Here's the
other thing. I'm a total Homas slot Like, I don't
(33:11):
make it. I eat any hummas. Yeah, like I'll eat
any of that stuff. One two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight types of hummas here. That's incredible. This is why
I live here. Now I'm reading new Yeah, okay, we're
looking at some cheese. We're gonna get you parmesan. This
bedega also has one two three four five types of parmesan,
(33:31):
not including the graded stuff, which I wouldn't buy. And
then dessert, what's your dessert move? Sometimes I do get grapes.
Sometimes I get a chocolate bar, like a tobleran for
the table is kind of a baller table tobleron. I
like that. Let's do it. Um, thank you? What a dream?
(33:53):
Alison Roman just like grocery shopping for me the world.
So I hope you get home safe. I feel like
it's about to sky is about to open up. Wait what,
I didn't even look at my weather up today New
York summers. The rain comes in hot and fast. All right,
thank you very much, take care, welcome to see you later.
(34:20):
You've got to be kidding me, see all right, weather app?
Weather app? It doesn't even say rain. All right, someone,
we need to wait it out? What's going on here? Hey?
Hey there? Can I just wait here while the rain clears.
(34:40):
I had to go back to California visit my parents
because my aunt was visiting from Iran. I was like, oh,
my gosh, she's never been to the US. We absolutely
have to take her to eat a taco, right, And
my mom is like, oh, that is a good idea
about how is taste taco? And I was like, lady,
what do you mean how is taste taco? You've been
(35:01):
living here for fucking thirty years. You don't know how
is taste taco? No? Oh no? And I was so mad.
I was so mad. I was like, you fucking immigrants
come to this country. You don't try Mexican food. You're
(35:23):
just an American that is absolutely TAXI. Hey, you're really
great up there. Thanks man, Thanks pretty early for a
(35:46):
comedy show. Huh Yeah, it's weird. They do it at
all times these days. You're the first person I've seen
hail a cab here in a couple of years. Frankly,
most people are on Uber. I like to hail a cab.
It's one of those things that you can do basically
only in New York City. So I appreciate that. But
it's pouring rain. I think it's gonna be a minute
for you get a cab. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
(36:06):
So I'm guessing that being a comedian and MC is
not for the faint of heart. Like I admire you
for going up there. You must be very brave. It's
like ultimately very self serving, you know what I mean.
If there's one thing I learned during the pandemic is
that comedians are the least essential workers. You know. I
have a question, so New York audiences versus other audiences.
(36:28):
Is there distinguishing traits? Are they different? You know? It's
interesting because I remember Lewis Black said to me once another,
you know, just amazing comedian. He said to me after
the show. You know, Nigine, you speak really fast, and
you can't speak that fast in other parts of the country.
When he said that to me, I was like, oh, okay,
(36:50):
Like and I think in some parts of the country,
I do like slow it down a little bit. I
slow it down because also in New York City, I
think everything is just a little bit more fast pace,
including just the pace of which people like literally speak,
And that's just a cultural thing over here. And also
the other thing is notts a megas who cheese you
get here? But I met my husband here and my
(37:14):
husband is an actor and he's black, and um I'm
Iranian and Muslim, and that makes our baby a Blaranian.
And it's the kind of you know, this is the
kind of family that could only happen in the United
States and more specific and it's just like way more
(37:40):
likely to happen in New York City. And also like
you know, we have this like this Russian neighbor who
also speaks Farsi. I mean, what you know, and so
so like you know, a few times a week, like
my daughter speaks Farsi with this Russian guy who may
or may not be an alcoholic. That's a story for
another time. But like that's the weird kind of thing
she's just going to be exposed to that. It's like
(38:00):
it's not weird to her that, like one of our
neighbors is from Uzbekistan, but then the other one is
from Turkey, and then another one's from Mexico. Like these
are just very normal things for you also live in
the United Nations to care and that is just I
feel like this little miracle of a family owes a
(38:24):
debt to New York City. And speaking of miracles in
New York City, I think this cab open, I think
that might be yours. Thanks so much for chatting with me. Yeah,
this was unexpectedly a fun conversation. M Hey, Brendan, Um,
(38:45):
where are you are You still planning to cook tonight?
People are starting to show up and I'm just feeding
them wine and this hummus from the fridge. But let
me know when you're going to arrive. All right, Well,
at least the rain's clearing up. What are the odds
of getting another cab? Right? I think we've been get
(39:09):
city bike. I hope these groceries can fit on a
city bike. Okay, one bike left. Oh shit, Hey, hey,
excuse me. This is the last city bike. That's why
I'm taking it. Yeah, but I really, Um, I have
a dinner party I have to be at, and I
swear I know that the city doesn't cut people breaks. No,
(39:31):
I gotta it's I'm just going home. I'm no, but
I'm like a fellow human who's asking you to just
cut me. Appreciate that fellow human. Good luck walking. Wait
a second, are you dem Taberski? This are walking and
I'm not walking to Brooklyn. Well, you can at least
check out my podcast not Lost. Yeah, great, I'll check
it out. Got it. Oh, here's a city bike then
(39:53):
filled with bikes. Hey there, did you see that guy
take the last bike from me? Yes? I did, such
a jerk. Are there any bikes nearby? Um? Yeah, we
have a couple of bikes at the station. We can
check them out and see if they're ridable. It seems
like whenever I really need a city bike, there's not
a bike, Like what? What? What is that just my misperception?
(40:14):
Do I have the wrong time of day that I'm
always hitting them? Um? That just means there's a lot
of people using the bikes. I mean, I guess it's
like New York in general. Right, Okay, Can I like, hey,
you to get a bike from the back of your truck? Oh? No,
absolutely not. I can't. I need to get to Brooklyn.
Are are you drying? Are you riding there? Can I
get a ride with you? Sure? Why not? You would
do that for me? Don't tell anyone, I won't. Your
(40:37):
boss will never know this happened, believe me. Thank you
so much. All right, So are your bike mechanics just
like working full on all the time, depending on the season. Yes,
right now we have at our depots we have twenty
four operations. Really Pixen bikesix bikes. That's wild. Same thing
with moving the bikes were twenty four, twenty four hour operations. Well,
(41:00):
and now I feel bad because I often, you know,
I love city bike, I love the exercise. I'm a
pretty much like a like a eight to seven PM
can so I need a bike then in the morning
and then at seven And I feel like often, you know,
the bikes are gone because so many people use them,
and I feel like I need to have a different
life style in order to get more bikes, you know
(41:20):
what I mean. Well, that's part of what we do,
you know, balancing the system based off of trends. That
can be challenging at times, but we definitely work on those.
How often do you ride? I used to ride a
lot more, but I work from home now a lot,
so I ride less. See. Look, there's a city bike
driver drivers. That's another thing. You gotta always watch out
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for the bicyclists because they're crazy. They're people people just
popping in and outs or even in between the vehicles.
So I got to always make sure that you're on
the alert. They can't kill the golden goose, though, because
this is the thing delivering the bikes, right absolutely, Maybe
City Bike could do what you do to make extra money.
They could make your actual delivery vans like this one,
(42:03):
you know, ubers or cabs. For something to think about.
I'm just you know, just try I'm thinking this is
this could be like the city Bike Deluxe service. There
could be a special button on your app that you press.
Have you really need this city Bike your way exactly,
City Bikes Chauffeur City Bike Gags. I feel thank you
(42:26):
so much for giving me this ride. Okay, well, we
got to do a better job at we balancing the system.
We'll have a bike for you next. All right, thank
you very much. But now, hey, Brendan, Christy, here, have
(42:47):
you decided where you're going to record your last episode?
The clock is ticking. Yeah, I'm aware of that. Oh hey, Christy,
currently thinking either Reno or Atlanta. We'll confirm tomorrow. Oh hey,
(43:32):
you guys to show up? Do you believe it? Seems
like you guys gotta started without me. Oh yeah, you're
way behind. You better start cooking because I think we're drama.
(43:53):
I could use a drink. As the lead producer on
this this season finale of season one of Not Lost
was Bart Covid Won't Stop Me Warshaw, who also sound
designed and mixed the episode. Who so happy to be
sharing with you guys for coming. Sorry was late. The
(44:22):
show was also produced and written by me Brendan. I
can't get Covid until I'm done with this show. France
has Newnham. Where were you? I was at the office,
So how is your show? I mean, I still haven't
figured out where my last episode is going to be.
You should just junior year. That's not bad idea. Our
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associate producer was Amy Gaines with additional production assistance from
Jacob Smith and aitorial guidance provided by Julia Barton's Mustard Greens.
I wanted to do like a bitter pasta thing, and
then there's a fennel and celery salad. I know some
people don't like celery, but I love really interesting. Yeah,
I'm a big Celery fan myself. I feel like there's
(45:04):
not enough Celery in a Celery bunch. Not Lost is
a co production of Push Can Industries, Topic Studios and
iHeartMedia just developed a Topic Studios. The show's executive producers
Army Christy Gressman, Maria Zuckerman, Lisa ling Gang, and lat Lade.
Our theme song was created by Alexis Georgiopolis aka Art.
(45:25):
He's done our new album coming out on Mexican Summer
called New Pleasures. Who doesn't want those? Check it out?
They give me cole sours and Walna Zach actively made
my mouth to one to five. I will stab you
with my party. Our artwork is by Topic Studios and
(45:50):
thanks to all the New Yorkers who I ran into
last Saturday, including Tony Haddad from Clean Green Cleaners, Will
from Freeway Entertainment, Emma Hendrickson, Malcolm Gladwell, Sadie Stein looked
for her byline Alison Roman, whose video series entitled Home
Movies is worth your time attention, even if she's a
(46:10):
show for the Celery industrial Complex. Also thanks to comedian
Nagheen Frasad and Shimika from City Bike promised not to
tell your boss about the ride and the special Thank
you to David Glover at Pushkin and Big Bus Tours,
and to dinner partiers Madeline Leon Coleman, Bernadette Napoleon, Robin Hendrickson,
(46:33):
Amy Martin and a little visiting puppy named Sequoia. And
since this is our final episode of this season, I
have more people than usual to thank. First, I'd like
to rethank Latom Malaud, who not only executive produced the
series but greenlittit a topic. Thank you for having faith
in this idea and producers. Sound designer Crystal Duke Came
(46:54):
who helped build the pilot episode, and of course my
friend Daniel Henderson. Her memoir The Ugly Cry is out
in paperback now. You should really check it out. Also,
the producer Tali Abacasis, who sent the humor and calm
prevailed during some challenging circumstances, and to the great Jackson
Musker who helped me map out the itinerary for the
(47:14):
first handful of episodes. He wrote the award winning Audible
original called The Sea in the Sky contains astronauts, humor
and pathos. And thank you to Hilu Mergia, whose song
Wetti harar guzzo pig I'm pronouncing that right has been
our credit soundtrack. You're hearing it now. I first met
Hilu at a concert years ago and Marfa, Texas. He
(47:35):
is such a gentleman and his music is fantastic. You
can't go wrong. Check him out wherever you listen to music.
Thanks to Jenny Bedusa, Ethan Light, Michelle Lands, Alex Giga
from Topic Studios, and a big special thanks to everyone
at my home Pushkin. So many people champion the show
and helped it along the way, Mia LaBelle, Heather Faine,
(47:56):
Carrie Brodie, Carli Migliordi, Edith Russelo, David Glover, Danielle Lakhan,
Christina Sullivan, Jason Gambrell. Were sang all their names in
a sing songy way, but each one of them made
a specific contribution. The great marketing team Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor,
Morgan Ratner, Nicole Morano, Isabella Navarrez, Jordan McMillan, Sean Carney,
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and Mary Beth Smith. Royston deserve, Maya Kanig, Justine Lange,
and a special special thanks to John Snars who helped
bring the show over to Pushkin, and to our fearless
leader Jacob Weisberg, who was very supportive of this project.
How could I have any more people to thank? I
don't know, but I do. I need to give a
special thanks to my colleagues at Pushkin Audio Books who
(48:40):
made the space for me to work on this project.
Jasmine Faustino, Kerry Colin and Nick White, Thank you. And last,
but not least, thanks to you for listening. This is
not your average travel show and I'm thrilled that A
connected with so many listeners. Please keep spreading the word
head to Apple Podcasts, rate review it. I appreciate you.
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You can also send your audio postcards to not Lost
at Pushkin dot fm, who've received a couple already and
they've been really tough watching. You can learn more about
Topic Studios at topic studios dot com. To find more
Pushkin podcast listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever
you listen to podcasts. I'm Brendan France has Newnham. I'll
(49:23):
be back in a few months. I'm actually going to
go on a real vacation. I'm not even gonna bring
my recording device. I may or may not crash your
dinner party. But I'll be back in a few months
with some chat versions of Not Lost. More about that later.
Until then, the pleasure has been mine.
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