July 22, 2024 • 33 mins
In the summer of 2020, a woman named Dia Abrams disappears from her home near Idyllwild, California. Her family and friends gather to search for her but some of their stories don’t quite add up.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Pushkin. I found out about the missing women through a
Facebook post. I hike a lot, mostly around Los Angeles,
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and always alone. I don't like to talk where my
heavy boots are rhythmically pounding the switchback trails. I use
Facebook groups called things like Girls who Hike and Ladies
who Hike LA for trail recommendations and safety tips. Sometime
in the summer of twenty twenty, someone shared a news
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article in one of these groups and warned us all
against hiking alone. In Idlewild, a mountain town about one
hundred miles from me, five women had gone missing in
the past two months.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Idlewild is a really small community and a lot of
people know each other there, so when people ended up
going missing, it was this kind of it was odd.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
This is Diana Fettter. She knows a thing or two
about crime. She worked as a secret service agent for
twenty three years investigating financial fraud. Diana was living in
the Idleworld area when the disappearances began.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So when that started happening, you know, all of us
girls were kind of saying, Okay, well, we're not going
to go anywhere without somebody else if it's dark outside,
just you know, bring somebody with you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Idlewild is nothing like La. The town is tucked away
in the San Jacinto Mountains. Its official mayor is a
golden retriever named Maximus Mighty Dog Mulla third. Really that's
the kind of town. It is a tourist playground, a
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mile high paradise offering an a dilic escape from the city.
Its main street is lined by ice cream shops, kitch
gift stores, and cute carved wood and bears. So all
these women disappearing was pretty big news. And because I'm
a journalist, and because I just really wanted to know
what happened, I figured I'd just start making some calls.
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It took me months, but eventually I managed to track
down a friend, a granddaughter, a mother of every single
missing woman, and I've found out what happened to them.
One woman was elderly with dementia. She got a loss
and her car was found abandoned on a steep mountain side.
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Her remains were later discovered nearby. Three women were battling
meth addictions. They'd run away from trouble, just packed up
and left. There was an explanation for all of them
except for one, a woman named Lydia Kenchilo Abrams, who
was known as Dia.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
When Dia went missing, it was a whole nother ballgame.
I'm like, this is one of our own.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Dia was a woman whose story refused to be tied
up in this neat little ending. She was a glamorous,
sixty five year old widow of a millionaire with two
kids in San Diego, horses and a ton of property.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh. I admired the heck out of her. Let me
tell you. She's a woman who was confident about herself,
always giving compliments to others, always telling other people they
were beautiful and how wonderful they were. But at the
same time, this petite woman could open up a can
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of wood bass like no one I've ever seen. She
had no problem calling people out if she felt they
were lying to her, or they were doing something wrong
or not being good people, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They seemed an unlikely pair. Diana is a motorbike riding,
leather wearing Southerner who also calls herself Lady Fed and
Dia the blonde, blue eyed Californian. But when they met,
Diana says, they clicked immediately.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
She was a private person and she wasn't one to
make friends with a lot of people easily, so if
she allowed you in her little circle, then she felt
that you were worthy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know, when Dia went missing, idle world wasn't the same,
not for Diana or another woman in town, Julie Stamford,
along with Dea, they've made this little trio, this sort
of girl gang, like the kind you'd see at high school.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Julie and I have spent hours and hours and hours
going over every scenario that it could possibly be, and
we came down to the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
She did not leave ever on a court.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I've spent the past four years investigating what happened to Dea,
and if there's one thing I've learned, it's this, we
don't like unanswered questions. When someone goes missing, they leave
a vacuum, and everyone left behind scrambles to fill that
space with reasons why, or explanations of how to make
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sense of things, anything to achieve that neat little ending
that I too was looking for when Dia went missing.
She didn't get to tell her own story. Her narrative
has been crafted by friends, family, lovers, and yes, even enemies,
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and it's left to us to decide whose version of
events we believe. This isn't just a story about Dea.
It's also a story about everyone she left behind. I'm
Lucy Sheriff, and this is Where's Dea? Episode one? You
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Cannot save me from all things? That wasn't much about
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Dea Abrams out there, Like her friend Diana said, she
seemed to be a private person. But I did come
across a video by a local CBS reporter, David Godfredson.
He'd interviewed a man named Keith Harper, who said he
was DIA's fiance. It's a bit hard to make out
David's questions in the video. It was twenty twenty, after all,
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so he was wearing a mask. But Keith diligently responds
with short to the point answers, and you had plans
to marry her?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Twenty fourth of July, then, where Jackson hole lie on me.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Keith and the reporter were sitting across from each other
at Bonita Vista Ranch, DEA's sprawling home. Bright green trees
and sunshine filled the frame around Keith. He had a craggy,
rugged face, the face of someone who's been out in
the sun his whole life. Why do you want to Marryer?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
She's an awesome person. She's the person that I have
looked for all my life.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I watched his body language. His right blue eyes flitted
around as he described his efforts to look for Deer.
The interview was posted on YouTube. There were a lot
of comments, and many of them were not sympathetic. Here's
a couple. He knows way more than he's letting up.
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I don't trust that old man, and even this guy
has the perfect opportunity to get away with murder. The
reporter asked Keith if he had anything to do with
DEA's disappearance.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
How can you prove that? I can prove that because
I love the woman, I have no reason to bring
harm to her.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I love that woman.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I had to speak with Keith Harper myself. I struggled
to find his contact details online and eventually I went
up to Idleworld and asked around. There were a bunch
of missing persons posters on wooden notice boards around the town.
One of them had DEA's face on it. There were
two numbers listed, one for a Julia and the other
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one for A Harper. Oh, hi, is that mister Harper? Yeah, Hi,
my name's Lucy Sheriff. So I called him and I wondered,
if you would be willing to talk.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
To me quickly, What questions do you have?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Obviously I had a lot. We talked for almost an hour.
I found out he likes to be known as Harper,
and so from now on, that's what I'll call him.
He told me he was still searching for Dea, and
he was worried that she was going to be forgotten
by the police, that she'd just become another cold case.
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The hardest part, he said, was not knowing.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You can deal with, yeah, if there is a death,
or you can deal with she left on her own.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Cord is her choice.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I can deal with that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
I can deal with all of that, But not knowing.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
The hollow.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You have a heart blind.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Harper was an open book. He didn't seem to be
anything like the guy who'd appeared on the CBS interview.
I remember feeling this immense sympathy for him. He sounded
so heartbroken. I can't imagine how difficult it must be
to not know.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
And unless you've been here's something like that, you'll know her. Know,
you'll never ever ever now because it leaves tip genyrk
stomach and in your heart that never gets healed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Harper told me, do you knew how to use a gun?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I keep going back. This was independent, she.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Was capable.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, I've watched her kill rattlers. I watched her
kill five rattlers one day, and she has no clear
now I mean the girl and next to one NA
shoot it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
A glamorous blonde who carried a gun shot at Rattlesnake's
and ran a sprawling ranch. I mean Dea kind of
sounded like a badass. But over these years I've peeled
back these layers, and she was a complicated character. Even now,
it's like Dea refuses to be summed up in one
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neat sentence. She doesn't fit into any classic archetypes or
tidy cliches. Every new person I've spoken to opened another
door to another possibility about what might have happened. Every
conversation raised another version of events that didn't quite add up,
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another puzzle piece that didn't seem to fit. Deer disappeared
on Saturday, June sixth, twenty twenty. I've revisited that one
weekend over and over because everyone has their own account
of how things went down at beneath a Vista Ranch,
DEA's one hundred and fifteen acre gated mountain Paradise. I'm
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going to come back to these couple of days a
lot throughout the season, so pay close attention. The timeline
of the day Deer went missing is spotty, to say
the least, but there's one thing we know for sure.
Around nine am on Saturday, June sixth, Dea went over
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to a neighbor's house to deliver cinnamon rolls. The door
cam footage was later leaked to CBS.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Now, for the first time, we are seeing video of
the former La Joya resident, recorded just hours before she vanished.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I watched the grainy picture in its eerie silence. Deer
wearing an oversized, chunky black shirt, her long blonde hair loose,
ringing on the doorbell, a box of rolls in hand.
When Dea realizes her neighbor isn't going to answer, she
puts the box on some kind of ledge next to
the door. The whole scene is ringed with a black
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circular border, like I'm looking through a fish eye lens
watching DEA's final known movements. Dea walks away, and that's it.
The one other thing I know for sure from that
day is at around two thirty pm, Deer texted Diana,
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her motorcycle riding friend, about window cleaner recommendations because she
was renting out some of her properties.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
She was happy as heck.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We had her house lined up for Airbnb and we
were getting hits on it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You might be wondering why would the widow of a
millionaire be doing the airbnb hustle, And that's a great
question with a pretty complex answer that I'll fully get
into later. All you need to know for now is
that Dea felt she was not in a good place
financially or by some accounts, emotionally. She was in a
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dispute with her children over the estate of her husband,
who had died a few years prior. So on June sixth,
Dea texted Diana, and I've seen those messages, and then
it all goes dark. That's the last evidence I have
of what Dea did that day, because everything that happened
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on Saturday after that string of texts is according to Harper.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Hey, you know, it seemed to be a typical day,
but I was pushing hard to get ready to go
to Colorado. And so you know, we we were making
sure that everything was being prepared. And I remember I
was down in the meadal morning the metal, and it lunchtime,
which was two o'clock for us because we didn't need breakfast.
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Health probably around Ken picking in it too. We had lunch,
and she did it. Have you got a minute, I
can talk to you. And I wish that I had listened,
because you know, she had talked about how she felt
there was a risk with her children.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
According to Harper and Diana, Deer was scared of her children.
It was all to do with this battle over her
late husband's estate. The kids wanted it all, and they
might go to extreme lengths to keep not only all
of their father's money, but Deer's multimillion dollar ranch. Two
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Also her friends told me.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
And if anything, I can't pass that off, thinking that
her children would not do anything to her. And she said,
you have a minute, I can talk with you. And
I said, hone can the cock to see me? I said,
I've got the medal to do, and it's going to
take me till dark. I find you're done. I leave
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go back to the metal at four thirty. I did
not get this text because I was on the tractor
and I did not hear it, but she texted me
at four point thirty and what she said is, Harper,
you cannot save me from all thinges even if you
believe you can you can.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You cannot save me from all things. Even if you
believe you can, you can't. I've never seen this text.
I've asked, but Harper told me the police took his
phone and won't give it back. According to his version
of events, he came in from mowing the meadow at
seven fifteen pm and dere was nowhere to be seen.
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He thought she was out exercising her horses.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You know, I got well.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Call her, seeing what it tells you it.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I called and that I could hear her phone ringing upstairs.
So I go upstairs, thinking she was up there because
sometimes she gets migraines and she'll lay down. But she
was not anywhere in the house, but her phone was
plugged in, her purse was sitting on the kitchen counter.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He says. He then went to see if DEA's truck
was outside.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
And when the truck was still parked where it was,
then I started the new a search of the properties.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Harper told me he searched other cabins and various sheds
and storage units on the property, and that in the
early hours of the morning, he stopped searching and went
to bed. The next day, Deer was still nowhere to
be found, making Harper the last person to see her alive.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You know, obviously, when you're the last person, I've always
become the suster.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We'll be right back. Early on Sunday morning, when Harper
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woke up, Deer was still missing. Her phone, purse, and
truck were all at the ranch. Harper says he continued
his search immediately.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
And that's when I went. I talked to the highway
control and he said, harpe Gee, call the sheriff. And
he said, I'll tell you what. They don't have to
do anything for her. I'll be seventy hours before they act.
Because people show up, they just disappear, and many of
them come back within that timeframe, so they don't get
really excited.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Before we get into what happened next, I want to
take a minute to address the idea that you have
to wait a certain amount of time to report someone missing.
You've probably heard of it on a TV show or
in a movie, but it's complete rubbish. You can report
someone missing right away. After Harper spoke to the California
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Highway Patrol officer, news began to spread. Diana Fetta, DEA's friend,
got wind that Harper was trying to get in touch
with her.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So I was able to call him and I said,
what's going on, because well, she didn't come home last night.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is she with you? I said, no, she's not with me.
But that's typical of Dea.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If she didn't want to go home, she'd either spend
the night with a friend or she'd spent the night
at her corner valley house.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
At eight twenty four am on Sunday, a call was
made from the ranch to the cops to report a
missing person. I'm not sure him made that call, but
the cops don't show until later the following day. Meanwhile,
Diana rallied a search party, army veterans who belonged to
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her motorcycle club, DEA's Idlewild friends, and neighbors from a
Christian youth camp across the road.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So it was pretty quick when people all started showing up.
We all started making phone calls trying to get people
to come over and help.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Some of the people who were searching, assumed Deer had
gone off hiking and just hurt herself.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
She's either up the hill, you know, walking up the
hill and she got lot, or she could hurt herself
and she can't come down.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
But there was a growing list of clues that made
this seem unlikely. Her phone and her guns were at
the house, things she always took hiking, and there was
something else that was very off. Deer's dog, Ruby was
still there. Ruby was a mixed mutt white with black spots,
colgy sized. She was ill too, on a very specific
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diet and lots of medication.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And that was the number one thing. She would never
have left Ruby at all. She always took Ruby everywhere.
I don't care where she went, even to her attorney's office,
she brought Ruby. If she went to the store, she
brought Ruby. If she was going to low she brought Ruby.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The search was well underway when DEA's thirty year old son,
Clinton Abrams, showed up at the ranch with some friends.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And I had never met him before, and.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
All I could think about is, I'm looking at this
young guy that you know, looks like a college frat boy.
He's not crying, He's not like overly emotional. Everybody went
searching for Dia, he didn't do anything. He just stood there.
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So it was it was like, well, if my mom
or my dad or my child or whoever was missing,
I'd be out there. I'm not going to just stand
here and wait for somebody to bring me news. But
he just stood there like he wanted people to pity him.
You know, he didn't act like an individual who was
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worried about their mother's welfare.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Period.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I've spoken with Clinton, by the way, he described his
actions that day very differently. You'll hear from him later on.
But in the meantime, the search party had no luck
finding any trace of Dea. Soon people began to disperse.
Later that night, Diana says she got another call.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I had gone home and Harper was calling and he
was upset, and I said, are you going to be okay?
And he's like no. I said, do you need me
to come out there? And he goes, do you mind?
I said, no, that's fine. So I came out and
I sat at the house and he was kind of
like a zombie, you know, like acted the part of
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like something's long.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That night, Diana stayed over at the ranch. It's now Monday,
June eighth, two days since Deer was last seen, and
there was no sign of the cops. Any officer will
tell you that the first forty eight hours is crucial
in a missing person's case. It's when investigators have the
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best chance of following up on leeds because the information
is fresh in everyone's minds. It's the best chance you
have of finding somebody. And yet the cops wait until
Monday afternoon to arrive on the scene. And before they
even get to the ranch, Harper says, they called him
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to say they were coming.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
They call me and they tell me that they are
gonna be there at age thirty in the morning. When
they get there, they said, we will were shutting the
lanes down and we will take over the church. If
you got anything, you may want to get it mo
because anything that's on the property will stay there.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I talked to three people who were there that day
who all said the cops didn't show up until the afternoon,
and when they finally did show, Diana says, they made
some frustrating decisions.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, they immediately came onto the property and kicked everybody off.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You know, didn't look.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Around at anybody or say, okay, well who's the person
that contacted the Sheriff's department, or Hey, who's Diana, or hey,
who's this person?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
They didn't even take my name.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Diana was especially upset because people started leaving without being
questioned by the police.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
What you know.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, I was never a police officer, but I was.
I'm a federal agent for twenty three beers, and I
felt that the investigation could have been handled.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Better by the way.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I've spoken with other people who were on the ranch
the day of the search and who said it took
the Riverside sheriff Department three years to get in touch
and ask them what they saw. Anyways, when the cops
called off their search that night at ten thirty five pm,
they handed over the keys to the entire ranch to
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Clinton and Chrissara, DIA's children. The cops left behind an
affidavit and a search warrant for the ranch. I found
something surprising in those documents. A second address was listed
Diana Fedder's house. I haven't been able to confirm with
the cops whether they searched her property, she says they didn't.
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It did make me wonder why would they want to
search her house. I also read through the list of
all the items the potential evidence that the cops had confiscated.
There was a netgear router, which, among other things, would
have info about which cell phones were connected to the
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Wi Fi and any activity from security cameras. There was
a piece of toilet paper, a band aid, and tan
bed sheets which the cops noted might have bloodstains on them.
There were spent bullet shell casings, and lastly, two handwritten notes.
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I was desperate to know more about this evidence. Spent
bullet casings, handwritten notes. It felt tantalizing to be this
close and yet not know the significance of it all.
But the police won't share any more information. In fact,
I've had little luck getting much of the cops at all.
I've emailed, called, texted, and they've been so tight lipped
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about what happened that weekend and their investigation at large.
It's been incredibly frustrating. You'd think the first person the
cops would question would be Harper. After all, as he
said himself, the last person to see a missing person
alive is usually a suspect. But they didn't actually let
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me make that clear. They couldn't question Harper because sometime
on Monday morning, before the cops show up, Harper left.
He took off for New Mexico in his white Ford
motor home with Deer's dog, Ruby, who, according to DEA's friends,
Harper didn't even like. I asked Harper about this.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Well, well, I had a cash bill I had to
take care of. It was totally to be taken care
of the week before, and we were going to do
that when we were heading to Colorado in Arizona if
I have a ranch there as well.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So to reiterate, he says he had a tax bill
to take care of in Arizona and that's why he
left two days after his fiance disappeared. But Harper gave
Diana an entirely different reason. The morning that he left.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
We were having coffee and.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
We went over to the trail to take a look
again to see if she could be over there, and
he told me he had to go back. I think
you said Arizona, New Mexico. I can't remember which state
it was that he had to go back to. That
part on blogging on but he told me about his probation.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Probation, Diana says, Harper told her he had to go
and check in with a parole officer. I asked Harper
about this too.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
No, I heard that too, and I don't know where
the hell she got that. I don't know where from when.
When I was in Arizona, I was talking with the
sheriff's office all the time until I was told by
Diana that they had come and the ranch was closed.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
He said he took his RV so he'd have somewhere
to stay when he came back to California because the
cops told him they were shutting up the ranch. I've
done a lot of research, and I can't find anything
that Harper would have been on probation for at that time,
so that doesn't add up. That leaves the tax bill story,
which is a little odd. Why would you have to
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drive hundreds of miles to go take care of a
tax bill? And why would it be so urgent that
you have to leave two days after your fiancee Go's missing.
As I waded into this story, I found that getting
clarity on what might have happened to Dea that day
was not so straightforward. Over the past few years, I've
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been down endless rabbit holes that have led nowhere and
hit countless brick walls. They have been many times where
I've been close to walking away from this story. But
What's kept me coming back to this, like some bad
habit I can't quite kick, is the ridiculous amount of
times I've shouted wait what out loud in my living
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room to myself after finding out some insane new piece
of information. It's so hard to know who to trust
because almost everyone I speak to seems to have something
to gain from Deer's disappearance. Everyone wants their version of
events to be believed to go down as the truth.
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What happened to Dea has become one of those Internet
who'd done it yarns that attracts armchair sleuths, a strange
chorus of anonymous people on Reddit and YouTube, all obsessing
over the evidence. I mean, I guess I've become one
of them too. The theories of what happened range from
plausible to wild speculation. I listened to all of them,
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hoping that somewhere in that pile of theories lies the truth,
and knowing that very likely one of the people I'm
speaking to is lying. Coming up this season on Wednesday, people.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I didn't know were in our family home.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I had gone up there ever since I was a
little kid, and now suddenly, you know, other people who
I suspect had murdered her are moving in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I said, well, this guy's acting really suspicious, and I
have all kinds about where I's going off in my head.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
There's something out right. We were showing Harbor the place,
and we took them.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Down the road and looked, and you just.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Thought were every reason to harm her, But so did
Hersara and Clinton.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Just because so much money's involved.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You can't trust anything, the man says at all.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Lake literally, he just he's allergic to the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
This story is getting ready to blow wide open. If
you want some information, we can talk.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Where's Dear is written and hosted by me Lucy Sheriff.
Our producer is Daphne Chen. Editing by Karen Shakerji, Production
assistance from Joey Fish, ground fact checking by Lauren Vespoli.
Our executive producer is Jacob Smith. Original score, sound design
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and mastering by Echo Shores. Where's Deer is a co
production of Pushkin Industries and iHeartMedia. Where's Deer was originally
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developed with Truly*Adventurous.
Pushkin. I found out about the missing women through a
Facebook post. I hike a lot, mostly around Los Angeles,
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and always alone. I don't like to talk where my
heavy boots are rhythmically pounding the switchback trails. I use
Facebook groups called things like Girls who Hike and Ladies
who Hike LA for trail recommendations and safety tips. Sometime
in the summer of twenty twenty, someone shared a news
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article in one of these groups and warned us all
against hiking alone. In Idlewild, a mountain town about one
hundred miles from me, five women had gone missing in
the past two months.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Idlewild is a really small community and a lot of
people know each other there, so when people ended up
going missing, it was this kind of it was odd.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
This is Diana Fettter. She knows a thing or two
about crime. She worked as a secret service agent for
twenty three years investigating financial fraud. Diana was living in
the Idleworld area when the disappearances began.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So when that started happening, you know, all of us
girls were kind of saying, Okay, well, we're not going
to go anywhere without somebody else if it's dark outside,
just you know, bring somebody with you.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Idlewild is nothing like La. The town is tucked away
in the San Jacinto Mountains. Its official mayor is a
golden retriever named Maximus Mighty Dog Mulla third. Really that's
the kind of town. It is a tourist playground, a
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mile high paradise offering an a dilic escape from the city.
Its main street is lined by ice cream shops, kitch
gift stores, and cute carved wood and bears. So all
these women disappearing was pretty big news. And because I'm
a journalist, and because I just really wanted to know
what happened, I figured I'd just start making some calls.
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It took me months, but eventually I managed to track
down a friend, a granddaughter, a mother of every single
missing woman, and I've found out what happened to them.
One woman was elderly with dementia. She got a loss
and her car was found abandoned on a steep mountain side.
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Her remains were later discovered nearby. Three women were battling
meth addictions. They'd run away from trouble, just packed up
and left. There was an explanation for all of them
except for one, a woman named Lydia Kenchilo Abrams, who
was known as Dia.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
When Dia went missing, it was a whole nother ballgame.
I'm like, this is one of our own.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Dia was a woman whose story refused to be tied
up in this neat little ending. She was a glamorous,
sixty five year old widow of a millionaire with two
kids in San Diego, horses and a ton of property.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh. I admired the heck out of her. Let me
tell you. She's a woman who was confident about herself,
always giving compliments to others, always telling other people they
were beautiful and how wonderful they were. But at the
same time, this petite woman could open up a can
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of wood bass like no one I've ever seen. She
had no problem calling people out if she felt they
were lying to her, or they were doing something wrong
or not being good people, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They seemed an unlikely pair. Diana is a motorbike riding,
leather wearing Southerner who also calls herself Lady Fed and
Dia the blonde, blue eyed Californian. But when they met,
Diana says, they clicked immediately.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
She was a private person and she wasn't one to
make friends with a lot of people easily, so if
she allowed you in her little circle, then she felt
that you were worthy.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know, when Dia went missing, idle world wasn't the same,
not for Diana or another woman in town, Julie Stamford,
along with Dea, they've made this little trio, this sort
of girl gang, like the kind you'd see at high school.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Julie and I have spent hours and hours and hours
going over every scenario that it could possibly be, and
we came down to the same thing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
She did not leave ever on a court.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I've spent the past four years investigating what happened to Dea,
and if there's one thing I've learned, it's this, we
don't like unanswered questions. When someone goes missing, they leave
a vacuum, and everyone left behind scrambles to fill that
space with reasons why, or explanations of how to make
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sense of things, anything to achieve that neat little ending
that I too was looking for when Dia went missing.
She didn't get to tell her own story. Her narrative
has been crafted by friends, family, lovers, and yes, even enemies,
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and it's left to us to decide whose version of
events we believe. This isn't just a story about Dea.
It's also a story about everyone she left behind. I'm
Lucy Sheriff, and this is Where's Dea? Episode one? You
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Cannot save me from all things? That wasn't much about
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Dea Abrams out there, Like her friend Diana said, she
seemed to be a private person. But I did come
across a video by a local CBS reporter, David Godfredson.
He'd interviewed a man named Keith Harper, who said he
was DIA's fiance. It's a bit hard to make out
David's questions in the video. It was twenty twenty, after all,
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so he was wearing a mask. But Keith diligently responds
with short to the point answers, and you had plans
to marry her?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Twenty fourth of July, then, where Jackson hole lie on me.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Keith and the reporter were sitting across from each other
at Bonita Vista Ranch, DEA's sprawling home. Bright green trees
and sunshine filled the frame around Keith. He had a craggy,
rugged face, the face of someone who's been out in
the sun his whole life. Why do you want to Marryer?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
She's an awesome person. She's the person that I have
looked for all my life.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I watched his body language. His right blue eyes flitted
around as he described his efforts to look for Deer.
The interview was posted on YouTube. There were a lot
of comments, and many of them were not sympathetic. Here's
a couple. He knows way more than he's letting up.
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I don't trust that old man, and even this guy
has the perfect opportunity to get away with murder. The
reporter asked Keith if he had anything to do with
DEA's disappearance.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
How can you prove that? I can prove that because
I love the woman, I have no reason to bring
harm to her.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I love that woman.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I had to speak with Keith Harper myself. I struggled
to find his contact details online and eventually I went
up to Idleworld and asked around. There were a bunch
of missing persons posters on wooden notice boards around the town.
One of them had DEA's face on it. There were
two numbers listed, one for a Julia and the other
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one for A Harper. Oh, hi, is that mister Harper? Yeah, Hi,
my name's Lucy Sheriff. So I called him and I wondered,
if you would be willing to talk.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
To me quickly, What questions do you have?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Obviously I had a lot. We talked for almost an hour.
I found out he likes to be known as Harper,
and so from now on, that's what I'll call him.
He told me he was still searching for Dea, and
he was worried that she was going to be forgotten
by the police, that she'd just become another cold case.
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The hardest part, he said, was not knowing.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You can deal with, yeah, if there is a death,
or you can deal with she left on her own.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Cord is her choice.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I can deal with that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
I can deal with all of that, But not knowing.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
The hollow.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
You have a heart blind.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Harper was an open book. He didn't seem to be
anything like the guy who'd appeared on the CBS interview.
I remember feeling this immense sympathy for him. He sounded
so heartbroken. I can't imagine how difficult it must be
to not know.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
And unless you've been here's something like that, you'll know her. Know,
you'll never ever ever now because it leaves tip genyrk
stomach and in your heart that never gets healed.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Harper told me, do you knew how to use a gun?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
I keep going back. This was independent, she.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Was capable.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
You know, I've watched her kill rattlers. I watched her
kill five rattlers one day, and she has no clear
now I mean the girl and next to one NA
shoot it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
A glamorous blonde who carried a gun shot at Rattlesnake's
and ran a sprawling ranch. I mean Dea kind of
sounded like a badass. But over these years I've peeled
back these layers, and she was a complicated character. Even now,
it's like Dea refuses to be summed up in one
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neat sentence. She doesn't fit into any classic archetypes or
tidy cliches. Every new person I've spoken to opened another
door to another possibility about what might have happened. Every
conversation raised another version of events that didn't quite add up,
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another puzzle piece that didn't seem to fit. Deer disappeared
on Saturday, June sixth, twenty twenty. I've revisited that one
weekend over and over because everyone has their own account
of how things went down at beneath a Vista Ranch,
DEA's one hundred and fifteen acre gated mountain Paradise. I'm
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going to come back to these couple of days a
lot throughout the season, so pay close attention. The timeline
of the day Deer went missing is spotty, to say
the least, but there's one thing we know for sure.
Around nine am on Saturday, June sixth, Dea went over
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to a neighbor's house to deliver cinnamon rolls. The door
cam footage was later leaked to CBS.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Now, for the first time, we are seeing video of
the former La Joya resident, recorded just hours before she vanished.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I watched the grainy picture in its eerie silence. Deer
wearing an oversized, chunky black shirt, her long blonde hair loose,
ringing on the doorbell, a box of rolls in hand.
When Dea realizes her neighbor isn't going to answer, she
puts the box on some kind of ledge next to
the door. The whole scene is ringed with a black
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circular border, like I'm looking through a fish eye lens
watching DEA's final known movements. Dea walks away, and that's it.
The one other thing I know for sure from that
day is at around two thirty pm, Deer texted Diana,
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her motorcycle riding friend, about window cleaner recommendations because she
was renting out some of her properties.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
She was happy as heck.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We had her house lined up for Airbnb and we
were getting hits on it.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
You might be wondering why would the widow of a
millionaire be doing the airbnb hustle, And that's a great
question with a pretty complex answer that I'll fully get
into later. All you need to know for now is
that Dea felt she was not in a good place
financially or by some accounts, emotionally. She was in a
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dispute with her children over the estate of her husband,
who had died a few years prior. So on June sixth,
Dea texted Diana, and I've seen those messages, and then
it all goes dark. That's the last evidence I have
of what Dea did that day, because everything that happened
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on Saturday after that string of texts is according to Harper.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Hey, you know, it seemed to be a typical day,
but I was pushing hard to get ready to go
to Colorado. And so you know, we we were making
sure that everything was being prepared. And I remember I
was down in the meadal morning the metal, and it lunchtime,
which was two o'clock for us because we didn't need breakfast.
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Health probably around Ken picking in it too. We had lunch,
and she did it. Have you got a minute, I
can talk to you. And I wish that I had listened,
because you know, she had talked about how she felt
there was a risk with her children.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
According to Harper and Diana, Deer was scared of her children.
It was all to do with this battle over her
late husband's estate. The kids wanted it all, and they
might go to extreme lengths to keep not only all
of their father's money, but Deer's multimillion dollar ranch. Two
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Also her friends told me.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
And if anything, I can't pass that off, thinking that
her children would not do anything to her. And she said,
you have a minute, I can talk with you. And
I said, hone can the cock to see me? I said,
I've got the medal to do, and it's going to
take me till dark. I find you're done. I leave
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go back to the metal at four thirty. I did
not get this text because I was on the tractor
and I did not hear it, but she texted me
at four point thirty and what she said is, Harper,
you cannot save me from all thinges even if you
believe you can you can.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You cannot save me from all things. Even if you
believe you can, you can't. I've never seen this text.
I've asked, but Harper told me the police took his
phone and won't give it back. According to his version
of events, he came in from mowing the meadow at
seven fifteen pm and dere was nowhere to be seen.
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He thought she was out exercising her horses.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
You know, I got well.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Call her, seeing what it tells you it.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
I called and that I could hear her phone ringing upstairs.
So I go upstairs, thinking she was up there because
sometimes she gets migraines and she'll lay down. But she
was not anywhere in the house, but her phone was
plugged in, her purse was sitting on the kitchen counter.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
He says. He then went to see if DEA's truck
was outside.
Speaker 7 (17:35):
And when the truck was still parked where it was,
then I started the new a search of the properties.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Harper told me he searched other cabins and various sheds
and storage units on the property, and that in the
early hours of the morning, he stopped searching and went
to bed. The next day, Deer was still nowhere to
be found, making Harper the last person to see her alive.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You know, obviously, when you're the last person, I've always
become the suster.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
We'll be right back. Early on Sunday morning, when Harper
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woke up, Deer was still missing. Her phone, purse, and
truck were all at the ranch. Harper says he continued
his search immediately.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
And that's when I went. I talked to the highway
control and he said, harpe Gee, call the sheriff. And
he said, I'll tell you what. They don't have to
do anything for her. I'll be seventy hours before they act.
Because people show up, they just disappear, and many of
them come back within that timeframe, so they don't get
really excited.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Before we get into what happened next, I want to
take a minute to address the idea that you have
to wait a certain amount of time to report someone missing.
You've probably heard of it on a TV show or
in a movie, but it's complete rubbish. You can report
someone missing right away. After Harper spoke to the California
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Highway Patrol officer, news began to spread. Diana Fetta, DEA's friend,
got wind that Harper was trying to get in touch
with her.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So I was able to call him and I said,
what's going on, because well, she didn't come home last night.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is she with you? I said, no, she's not with me.
But that's typical of Dea.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
If she didn't want to go home, she'd either spend
the night with a friend or she'd spent the night
at her corner valley house.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
At eight twenty four am on Sunday, a call was
made from the ranch to the cops to report a
missing person. I'm not sure him made that call, but
the cops don't show until later the following day. Meanwhile,
Diana rallied a search party, army veterans who belonged to
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her motorcycle club, DEA's Idlewild friends, and neighbors from a
Christian youth camp across the road.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So it was pretty quick when people all started showing up.
We all started making phone calls trying to get people
to come over and help.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Some of the people who were searching, assumed Deer had
gone off hiking and just hurt herself.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
She's either up the hill, you know, walking up the
hill and she got lot, or she could hurt herself
and she can't come down.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
But there was a growing list of clues that made
this seem unlikely. Her phone and her guns were at
the house, things she always took hiking, and there was
something else that was very off. Deer's dog, Ruby was
still there. Ruby was a mixed mutt white with black spots,
colgy sized. She was ill too, on a very specific
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diet and lots of medication.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And that was the number one thing. She would never
have left Ruby at all. She always took Ruby everywhere.
I don't care where she went, even to her attorney's office,
she brought Ruby. If she went to the store, she
brought Ruby. If she was going to low she brought Ruby.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The search was well underway when DEA's thirty year old son,
Clinton Abrams, showed up at the ranch with some friends.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And I had never met him before, and.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
All I could think about is, I'm looking at this
young guy that you know, looks like a college frat boy.
He's not crying, He's not like overly emotional. Everybody went
searching for Dia, he didn't do anything. He just stood there.
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So it was it was like, well, if my mom
or my dad or my child or whoever was missing,
I'd be out there. I'm not going to just stand
here and wait for somebody to bring me news. But
he just stood there like he wanted people to pity him.
You know, he didn't act like an individual who was
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worried about their mother's welfare.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Period.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I've spoken with Clinton, by the way, he described his
actions that day very differently. You'll hear from him later on.
But in the meantime, the search party had no luck
finding any trace of Dea. Soon people began to disperse.
Later that night, Diana says she got another call.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I had gone home and Harper was calling and he
was upset, and I said, are you going to be okay?
And he's like no. I said, do you need me
to come out there? And he goes, do you mind?
I said, no, that's fine. So I came out and
I sat at the house and he was kind of
like a zombie, you know, like acted the part of
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like something's long.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
That night, Diana stayed over at the ranch. It's now Monday,
June eighth, two days since Deer was last seen, and
there was no sign of the cops. Any officer will
tell you that the first forty eight hours is crucial
in a missing person's case. It's when investigators have the
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best chance of following up on leeds because the information
is fresh in everyone's minds. It's the best chance you
have of finding somebody. And yet the cops wait until
Monday afternoon to arrive on the scene. And before they
even get to the ranch, Harper says, they called him
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to say they were coming.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
They call me and they tell me that they are
gonna be there at age thirty in the morning. When
they get there, they said, we will were shutting the
lanes down and we will take over the church. If
you got anything, you may want to get it mo
because anything that's on the property will stay there.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I talked to three people who were there that day
who all said the cops didn't show up until the afternoon,
and when they finally did show, Diana says, they made
some frustrating decisions.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Well, they immediately came onto the property and kicked everybody off.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You know, didn't look.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Around at anybody or say, okay, well who's the person
that contacted the Sheriff's department, or Hey, who's Diana, or hey,
who's this person?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
They didn't even take my name.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Diana was especially upset because people started leaving without being
questioned by the police.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
What you know.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, I was never a police officer, but I was.
I'm a federal agent for twenty three beers, and I
felt that the investigation could have been handled.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Better by the way.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I've spoken with other people who were on the ranch
the day of the search and who said it took
the Riverside sheriff Department three years to get in touch
and ask them what they saw. Anyways, when the cops
called off their search that night at ten thirty five pm,
they handed over the keys to the entire ranch to
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Clinton and Chrissara, DIA's children. The cops left behind an
affidavit and a search warrant for the ranch. I found
something surprising in those documents. A second address was listed
Diana Fedder's house. I haven't been able to confirm with
the cops whether they searched her property, she says they didn't.
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It did make me wonder why would they want to
search her house. I also read through the list of
all the items the potential evidence that the cops had confiscated.
There was a netgear router, which, among other things, would
have info about which cell phones were connected to the
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Wi Fi and any activity from security cameras. There was
a piece of toilet paper, a band aid, and tan
bed sheets which the cops noted might have bloodstains on them.
There were spent bullet shell casings, and lastly, two handwritten notes.
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I was desperate to know more about this evidence. Spent
bullet casings, handwritten notes. It felt tantalizing to be this
close and yet not know the significance of it all.
But the police won't share any more information. In fact,
I've had little luck getting much of the cops at all.
I've emailed, called, texted, and they've been so tight lipped
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about what happened that weekend and their investigation at large.
It's been incredibly frustrating. You'd think the first person the
cops would question would be Harper. After all, as he
said himself, the last person to see a missing person
alive is usually a suspect. But they didn't actually let
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me make that clear. They couldn't question Harper because sometime
on Monday morning, before the cops show up, Harper left.
He took off for New Mexico in his white Ford
motor home with Deer's dog, Ruby, who, according to DEA's friends,
Harper didn't even like. I asked Harper about this.
Speaker 7 (28:04):
Well, well, I had a cash bill I had to
take care of. It was totally to be taken care
of the week before, and we were going to do
that when we were heading to Colorado in Arizona if
I have a ranch there as well.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So to reiterate, he says he had a tax bill
to take care of in Arizona and that's why he
left two days after his fiance disappeared. But Harper gave
Diana an entirely different reason. The morning that he left.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
We were having coffee and.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
We went over to the trail to take a look
again to see if she could be over there, and
he told me he had to go back. I think
you said Arizona, New Mexico. I can't remember which state
it was that he had to go back to. That
part on blogging on but he told me about his probation.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Probation, Diana says, Harper told her he had to go
and check in with a parole officer. I asked Harper
about this too.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
No, I heard that too, and I don't know where
the hell she got that. I don't know where from when.
When I was in Arizona, I was talking with the
sheriff's office all the time until I was told by
Diana that they had come and the ranch was closed.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
He said he took his RV so he'd have somewhere
to stay when he came back to California because the
cops told him they were shutting up the ranch. I've
done a lot of research, and I can't find anything
that Harper would have been on probation for at that time,
so that doesn't add up. That leaves the tax bill story,
which is a little odd. Why would you have to
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drive hundreds of miles to go take care of a
tax bill? And why would it be so urgent that
you have to leave two days after your fiancee Go's missing.
As I waded into this story, I found that getting
clarity on what might have happened to Dea that day
was not so straightforward. Over the past few years, I've
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been down endless rabbit holes that have led nowhere and
hit countless brick walls. They have been many times where
I've been close to walking away from this story. But
What's kept me coming back to this, like some bad
habit I can't quite kick, is the ridiculous amount of
times I've shouted wait what out loud in my living
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room to myself after finding out some insane new piece
of information. It's so hard to know who to trust
because almost everyone I speak to seems to have something
to gain from Deer's disappearance. Everyone wants their version of
events to be believed to go down as the truth.
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What happened to Dea has become one of those Internet
who'd done it yarns that attracts armchair sleuths, a strange
chorus of anonymous people on Reddit and YouTube, all obsessing
over the evidence. I mean, I guess I've become one
of them too. The theories of what happened range from
plausible to wild speculation. I listened to all of them,
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hoping that somewhere in that pile of theories lies the truth,
and knowing that very likely one of the people I'm
speaking to is lying. Coming up this season on Wednesday, people.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
I didn't know were in our family home.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I had gone up there ever since I was a
little kid, and now suddenly, you know, other people who
I suspect had murdered her are moving in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I said, well, this guy's acting really suspicious, and I
have all kinds about where I's going off in my head.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
There's something out right. We were showing Harbor the place,
and we took them.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Down the road and looked, and you just.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Thought were every reason to harm her, But so did
Hersara and Clinton.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Just because so much money's involved.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You can't trust anything, the man says at all.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Lake literally, he just he's allergic to the truth.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
This story is getting ready to blow wide open. If
you want some information, we can talk.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Where's Dear is written and hosted by me Lucy Sheriff.
Our producer is Daphne Chen. Editing by Karen Shakerji, Production
assistance from Joey Fish, ground fact checking by Lauren Vespoli.
Our executive producer is Jacob Smith. Original score, sound design
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and mastering by Echo Shores. Where's Deer is a co
production of Pushkin Industries and iHeartMedia. Where's Deer was originally
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developed with Truly*Adventurous.
Host
Lucy Sherriff
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Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.