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August 22, 2025 70 mins
This is our unabridged interview with Baratunde Thurston. What does it mean to be human in the age of AI? From writing for The Onion to hosting PBS’s America Outdoors and launching the hit podcast Life With Machines, Baratunde Thurston has spent a career telling stories about interdependence—with one another, with the natural world, and now, with rising machine intelligence. Together, he and Lee unpack how AI both challenges and affirms our humanity, and what practices of democracy might guide us toward a more equitable technological future.  Show Notes  Resources: ⁠Life With Machines Podcast⁠  ⁠How to Citizen Podcast ⁠ ⁠“How to Be Black” by Baratunde Thurston⁠   ⁠Audrey Tang⁠  ⁠The Bioregional Movement⁠ ⁠Haudenosaunee Confederacy⁠ ⁠Data & Society Research Institute⁠ ⁠Dem Next⁠ ⁠Jon Alexander⁠ ⁠“You’re More Powerful Than You Think” by Eric Liu⁠ ⁠Center for Humane Technology⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠  Similar Episodes: ⁠Meghan O’Gieblyn⁠: Technology and Humanity  Science, Faith, and Einstein: ⁠Alister McGrath⁠ ⁠Ayana Elizabeth Johnson⁠: What If We Get Climate Action Right?  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Transcript⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Want more NSE? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠JOIN NSE+ Today!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Our subscriber only community comes with bonus content, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets for our live shows.  Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. Start your podcast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠helpmemakeapodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  Subscribe to episodes:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amazon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Google⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Lee:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Join our Email List:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ nosmallendeavor.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  See Privacy Policy:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Privacy Policy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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