May 28, 2025 • 43 mins
The Cuban LGBTQ and Black voices are disproportionately discriminated and oppressed by the regime. We hear how they have been treated historically and how they have risen up to help shape Cuba’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On July eleven, two thousand twenty one, a loud call
for freedom was heard on the streets of communists ruled Cuba.
Fed up with sixty two years of NADA, nothing but
Castro communism, oppression and scarcity. What does the future hold
for the people long robbed of any opportunities? How did
(00:21):
we get here? What we learned? And can we finally
be free? As Though As Cuba is a weekly six
episode series hosted by me and Rique Santos and Telemundo
and NBC journalist Jose Diaz Balart. We invite you to
join us our guests, social influencers, artists and journalists from
the island as well as the global exile community, as
(00:43):
we dive deep into the history that shaped us and
talk patria vida and human rights in Cuba. Can I
introduce our next game? Please do, please do. Jose is
one of the pillars of rap music in Cuba. He
(01:04):
is a pioneer of that extraordinary form of expression in
the island. That form of expression is filled with danger
in Cuba because it's an expression of protests and that
is not tolerated on the island. As a matter of fact,
Uh Patriota one of the or the groups that he
(01:26):
founded in Cuba had an extraordinary song called that caused
a lot of problems for them, but it also made
a huge impact in Cuba. Would you say that was
one of the first Is that the first protest songs
that an artist there to sing inside the island. Absolutely,
(01:47):
it's it's an honor Raubel, grass Yevanos and and critical
(02:12):
publica to the Cana Bibi and just a proton processor
processor it towns metal processor recommend Joe not so um
(02:36):
you're not so excession, just down the sport, then trampas
(02:58):
matrioch cosa parlareas you canno complete absolute proude toa okayano
(03:19):
in fancia fumoa and mel contact. He wouldn't cause some
people condition the movie in momentary report, como cipo can
(03:46):
cipo la via possibly go no not okap can short
okay you o want being as a people who concertoento
(04:28):
frasando you know Alto centio Iono joined the bo hip
(04:49):
hop ramienta hip hop, raia d leos dentro dromo to
shay e creat camp mida and are you two la cosa?
(05:30):
In the momento no media consequence. We have to minten
hip hopre re commence to it. Commence us assum roles
(05:54):
a momento no no, no, no much consequencia your moments
cencia after no comience and but after you know MEAs
(06:34):
I go a tower, young socialite except the Alexis Victor people,
(06:56):
I asked, look at aciendo everyone everyone bunce over me. No,
(07:17):
not a company, And okay, I said, the way I
see basma gasio primaro, primaro, como I see the bran
(07:54):
when I was well, and look at them, yea achievement member.
Okayendo comundo the in fluid or paramo the head cloud
(08:24):
concern their keys contain, that's a recus. You have to
second contract again. Sorry, revolution revolution no solamente yeah, set yeah,
(09:04):
the center position crisy the inclusive either oh and like
a tot of familiar and coua familian or miamigohami cameo
(09:28):
with familia or bivenka is and Camorlando okay no has
not area tra has a two year no possibly two
(09:49):
years and guests to say says two yesterday fregas po
not well not finished a man two The scene where
(10:10):
familiar coming I see no perfumed. The appears like you okay,
Thankyosa say moriem pi, but one on the planet not
(10:38):
here inclus so loa they see wherever finish a man?
Where where's familiar meo okay, and course says as planet,
(11:07):
not who proposed we mean the ila it's in Greave
Plano Cassia from roma usud the way combined brond their
(11:31):
way person in Tupasa. Also I can content again conno momentaniamente,
(12:00):
I said people, but not in a propositlement empera, and
(12:20):
that the proposito that the propositle. No you plan now
you plan Pallada, the plan not Yestian with eppere par
(13:13):
do not sepa sempre con pokat prasimo brutal. Don't Lord
(13:43):
Negros negross some mea some my power. Melia notes the
Torlando puertos puetro conc influencia CoA CoA con in contra
(14:13):
in intra com see that you're going to do and
the place yes Anosa consolation and secretario Patio Puerto oric
(15:00):
Amilia and oquerra simo from Molio ram from firm E
(15:22):
blood matter. Okay, who know that is a case loo
the the the blood recommend in no simple in menop
juan nero no sara soluta mente nero no hamas sabra
(15:56):
nuci no loo neal avelando avelando desition recommend recomen your
blando b pet the callization no no look to me
(16:41):
and when completely from the lorries and plataforma program someonea confession,
Someone confers so confessed ocay some port alloud they they
(17:06):
hinted a plato is a politica berna serious imposition, commo
(17:27):
socialita and samana women just sorta mente real geta does it?
Does it in teressa Teresa parasupo sofriam and took part
(18:13):
plus and paris rima grass Come on, come on, personam
(18:34):
transidium como in la vida they want trans actual maente
and coua you know um transna and two mementos is
(19:03):
in my complica. In my complica langua tranks and coua
um for lictoria were for mm hmm la transphobia. Okay
(19:26):
I sist e king system mua um some practical and
sex and transactionality because he has some sex so m
(19:50):
and two mementos and the pandemially the fact that in
Cantaria conte Feriencia and as a as a Messbruci and
(20:21):
now I trans trans and Russia. Um come on, come via,
come via continuous roba from terras. If you have forficis Gillian,
(20:59):
local Prussian and two bos I was asis I kill
it themis and cool eric paraslu chando parasendo para I
(21:29):
a memento and condacious. Okay, get there, Uh the nervina
vida con more media. Then the guano algo elm me
(21:57):
is algoque you know you want, maybe lu polo Evan
music at rises lovan mevia or came the India India
um la crimination, labolenzia e lagoso u lanmitation is la ratios,
(22:28):
la repricition, mala cosa cambia Joe for a him blow.
They're going to your no idea can no way I
want policia in la caa caminal or or pasarna badia
(22:54):
no sentamil just about out of persona And in mefica
centers bahira centris a game. Okay, okay, look at look
at us bara for me help contractor UCM to meo
(23:21):
cambingo in crusoe uh alugas servisually sei criminal SiO, the
the caminas and the guy is certain certain sea killum
(23:54):
la curious and policiamente, tomenta c port orientation sexualits for me,
(24:18):
the sex one killium Encuba vierno ro yeta, the Tolranzia
plus no marila cat are you not be ferrencia andre
(24:49):
la perception Really Dad and Cuba um stood the past,
and los Angeles on the pacalty and yeah said these
kings asunder complets guandolo they were that they that it
(25:19):
no way the trance then the rageous and racious yes
for Macon north Town, north Town, north Town, you know
(25:44):
if insolent for hemplo our a memo, um familiars te
familiar um layers, mamoniolitario, umx so other lay in a
(26:20):
heavy day we poke say I'm prodect out a word,
the ownA campaigna parao campaigns no no no, Julio, the
(26:51):
podcast bosses k Carpa ambibido repression, cancel, the criminals as
complicando and also Sifico party come up, come alongso in particular,
(27:13):
and also Julio and also from the Coursasientos. The reflection
there for me along who are your friend? Rios Grito
(27:41):
the via via significo along Julio Day, Parsona Canclusi alaban
who the best and every day and the mythic comtion
(28:05):
okay and motors march and motor f and wat fromatos
and instance. There a community and they have a day
from differenties. It they also Julio community in every day.
(28:26):
It can't the end, It can't be ind the issues.
It can't the end of sex. Who shouts sibilical and
delivered to Gillian condo to swan yas their own. The couga,
(28:52):
what couba? You're too? Swagers h just when you're not
going up? Um, don't the capable to look one, just
(29:15):
when you're not Google? On the repeating, I said, oh man,
just when you're not Google. On the sec repetal de
los photos are lopings and different. Don't the repetal difference
(29:36):
here just when you're not Google and then represume don't,
then says, don't they clim assume weird lory clamor like
Jack that you shoes presentiment Instagram on a photo Blanco
(30:09):
Negro contains photo significant as a photo party it's just luck.
It's just lucksis it's cannot cannot put can know pulling Creer,
(30:38):
you know, pulling Bampo. Also Dan task person as Stims, Messas,
Annals and the city Salid the Cuba were Russia, you know,
(31:02):
Kia Merita land, the Kano, the Salila progress sooner really
that saying titress Annals behind the Gano and okay so
(31:26):
unqua young Salil, the supice como where they you know,
v a c andaque selling the goal for poor progress,
(32:07):
economical operating contract, familiar poem there familiar can know poema
employ vida so much money fishy really fishy la you
(32:28):
cannot via cm No, no, we are not in in
moely fishing Phisy Joe Intenden intra and Eerie Malamu triste
(32:58):
Joe in the Roba Pan Pacifico, in the traffical on
the first free fall a two ways, two um impression
and policia, and went from there it was Trampas Cafe
(33:43):
Gratian to viewer and not so Entrusia Laeta the Central
America and Mexico into the wound too to Japerson cleaning
la Ghana. Last there is and elmaris for real, can
(34:25):
know some there you can know can be on Cuba
Ciano's agent inn or kay guess look as goalless Lakusa.
They trust the last personas a thing, the poet, but
as a lead the superies or kay, how can a poem? No,
(34:53):
I cannot one done I person I cann keep in
case in case and intended amora. Yes, a persona peri
(35:19):
like Carceling and see it really like Uanas in particular
preferring morel an and Carcelaus for lossla carcels quentificoas carcel
(35:40):
Russaa faces Smrancius in the US with were them with
quasios to aria um cicolosolectoria the lictorial sa similar historical
(36:20):
They as a map. They are second Kenny of lies.
They has a leg solo mariel. They car carlamientos for
for the hen fork we momentus mementos mouch of mementos
and CoA and trans en carcilla for giver robas them
(36:47):
here for the net accessory of the heir or lagara
Yes laadnal Therallas comment in the little obtexually intoss we
(37:13):
defici in pm defice then deficient your too well and
they need a motion faces motion faces people and co
trans and her prostitutor inac non kra noel tres xualia,
(37:49):
cala geography, moretas emotions and trans if you move your
in towas nolo nolo not there they are when the
(38:12):
low fuel in pimos down one of the hour a
motion of the have you know those as those as
ald and Town or basis Perry and killer came to
(38:35):
familiar in Bres. You know sol town so Lamente Corando
own b Elenxia c assume trans k to her and
(38:55):
Carla Carlas in all of la Cosa said look, okay
(39:28):
I get I get no like a tying employing tomentos okay, okay, okay,
a grand poeta juano reinaldo arenas a crivio solo l
(39:49):
impossibly todo I possibly jo no cool the rio comos,
the grass, the nero corusciento, evenifico, contata cos eplicandolla and
(40:15):
come omega come come omeand needless ok the different cento
al audio. In the Criminals, you mainal persona to look
(40:37):
amias into de los atropeios de los ausos della the
local para septarity, the simplemente kien an appeal and to
pel accept q plus e comes the career, the career
(41:02):
nod to look look as sufrido seeing embargo, the scando
rando d uh local love for me, for me tongue
(41:37):
ton for look people for getting on the ratios, for
getting on the racial for getting and delivery, simplement take
it and ratios est restro mass and fatiko boo or
(42:18):
k totobo? Where are we ned and libertad In case
you dign that mirara poor elgo bierno portola associated aretlante
(42:38):
solid are you remains so means so pat no what
(43:00):
patre rida. On the final episode of our special series
s O s Cuba, we discuss how to forgive and
forget a lokuano. Can we truly come together for the
sake of a free Cuba and a more inclusive future
for the younger generations? Can we really put aside so
much pain and injustice inflicted by the regime to finally
(43:23):
united as one? We discuss what it will take to
heal and move forward for the sake of Una. S
os Cuba is produced by Enrigue Santos, Luisa Varona Ramirez,
Carol Varenzuela, DJ Xtreme, Rover Matteo, Rosalia, Castro and Telemundo
in partnership with I Heart Radios Michael Dura podcast Network.
(43:45):
For more podcasts from my Heart, visit the I Heart
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favorite shows
On July eleven, two thousand twenty one, a loud call
for freedom was heard on the streets of communists ruled Cuba.
Fed up with sixty two years of NADA, nothing but
Castro communism, oppression and scarcity. What does the future hold
for the people long robbed of any opportunities? How did
(00:21):
we get here? What we learned? And can we finally
be free? As Though As Cuba is a weekly six
episode series hosted by me and Rique Santos and Telemundo
and NBC journalist Jose Diaz Balart. We invite you to
join us our guests, social influencers, artists and journalists from
the island as well as the global exile community, as
(00:43):
we dive deep into the history that shaped us and
talk patria vida and human rights in Cuba. Can I
introduce our next game? Please do, please do. Jose is
one of the pillars of rap music in Cuba. He
(01:04):
is a pioneer of that extraordinary form of expression in
the island. That form of expression is filled with danger
in Cuba because it's an expression of protests and that
is not tolerated on the island. As a matter of fact,
Uh Patriota one of the or the groups that he
(01:26):
founded in Cuba had an extraordinary song called that caused
a lot of problems for them, but it also made
a huge impact in Cuba. Would you say that was
one of the first Is that the first protest songs
that an artist there to sing inside the island. Absolutely,
(01:47):
it's it's an honor Raubel, grass Yevanos and and critical
(02:12):
publica to the Cana Bibi and just a proton processor
processor it towns metal processor recommend Joe not so um
(02:36):
you're not so excession, just down the sport, then trampas
(02:58):
matrioch cosa parlareas you canno complete absolute proude toa okayano
(03:19):
in fancia fumoa and mel contact. He wouldn't cause some
people condition the movie in momentary report, como cipo can
(03:46):
cipo la via possibly go no not okap can short
okay you o want being as a people who concertoento
(04:28):
frasando you know Alto centio Iono joined the bo hip
(04:49):
hop ramienta hip hop, raia d leos dentro dromo to
shay e creat camp mida and are you two la cosa?
(05:30):
In the momento no media consequence. We have to minten
hip hopre re commence to it. Commence us assum roles
(05:54):
a momento no no, no, no much consequencia your moments
cencia after no comience and but after you know MEAs
(06:34):
I go a tower, young socialite except the Alexis Victor people,
(06:56):
I asked, look at aciendo everyone everyone bunce over me. No,
(07:17):
not a company, And okay, I said, the way I
see basma gasio primaro, primaro, como I see the bran
(07:54):
when I was well, and look at them, yea achievement member.
Okayendo comundo the in fluid or paramo the head cloud
(08:24):
concern their keys contain, that's a recus. You have to
second contract again. Sorry, revolution revolution no solamente yeah, set yeah,
(09:04):
the center position crisy the inclusive either oh and like
a tot of familiar and coua familian or miamigohami cameo
(09:28):
with familia or bivenka is and Camorlando okay no has
not area tra has a two year no possibly two
(09:49):
years and guests to say says two yesterday fregas po
not well not finished a man two The scene where
(10:10):
familiar coming I see no perfumed. The appears like you okay,
Thankyosa say moriem pi, but one on the planet not
(10:38):
here inclus so loa they see wherever finish a man?
Where where's familiar meo okay, and course says as planet,
(11:07):
not who proposed we mean the ila it's in Greave
Plano Cassia from roma usud the way combined brond their
(11:31):
way person in Tupasa. Also I can content again conno momentaniamente,
(12:00):
I said people, but not in a propositlement empera, and
(12:20):
that the proposito that the propositle. No you plan now
you plan Pallada, the plan not Yestian with eppere par
(13:13):
do not sepa sempre con pokat prasimo brutal. Don't Lord
(13:43):
Negros negross some mea some my power. Melia notes the
Torlando puertos puetro conc influencia CoA CoA con in contra
(14:13):
in intra com see that you're going to do and
the place yes Anosa consolation and secretario Patio Puerto oric
(15:00):
Amilia and oquerra simo from Molio ram from firm E
(15:22):
blood matter. Okay, who know that is a case loo
the the the blood recommend in no simple in menop
juan nero no sara soluta mente nero no hamas sabra
(15:56):
nuci no loo neal avelando avelando desition recommend recomen your
blando b pet the callization no no look to me
(16:41):
and when completely from the lorries and plataforma program someonea confession,
Someone confers so confessed ocay some port alloud they they
(17:06):
hinted a plato is a politica berna serious imposition, commo
(17:27):
socialita and samana women just sorta mente real geta does it?
Does it in teressa Teresa parasupo sofriam and took part
(18:13):
plus and paris rima grass Come on, come on, personam
(18:34):
transidium como in la vida they want trans actual maente
and coua you know um transna and two mementos is
(19:03):
in my complica. In my complica langua tranks and coua
um for lictoria were for mm hmm la transphobia. Okay
(19:26):
I sist e king system mua um some practical and
sex and transactionality because he has some sex so m
(19:50):
and two mementos and the pandemially the fact that in
Cantaria conte Feriencia and as a as a Messbruci and
(20:21):
now I trans trans and Russia. Um come on, come via,
come via continuous roba from terras. If you have forficis Gillian,
(20:59):
local Prussian and two bos I was asis I kill
it themis and cool eric paraslu chando parasendo para I
(21:29):
a memento and condacious. Okay, get there, Uh the nervina
vida con more media. Then the guano algo elm me
(21:57):
is algoque you know you want, maybe lu polo Evan
music at rises lovan mevia or came the India India
um la crimination, labolenzia e lagoso u lanmitation is la ratios,
(22:28):
la repricition, mala cosa cambia Joe for a him blow.
They're going to your no idea can no way I
want policia in la caa caminal or or pasarna badia
(22:54):
no sentamil just about out of persona And in mefica
centers bahira centris a game. Okay, okay, look at look
at us bara for me help contractor UCM to meo
(23:21):
cambingo in crusoe uh alugas servisually sei criminal SiO, the
the caminas and the guy is certain certain sea killum
(23:54):
la curious and policiamente, tomenta c port orientation sexualits for me,
(24:18):
the sex one killium Encuba vierno ro yeta, the Tolranzia
plus no marila cat are you not be ferrencia andre
(24:49):
la perception Really Dad and Cuba um stood the past,
and los Angeles on the pacalty and yeah said these
kings asunder complets guandolo they were that they that it
(25:19):
no way the trance then the rageous and racious yes
for Macon north Town, north Town, north Town, you know
(25:44):
if insolent for hemplo our a memo, um familiars te
familiar um layers, mamoniolitario, umx so other lay in a
(26:20):
heavy day we poke say I'm prodect out a word,
the ownA campaigna parao campaigns no no no, Julio, the
(26:51):
podcast bosses k Carpa ambibido repression, cancel, the criminals as
complicando and also Sifico party come up, come alongso in particular,
(27:13):
and also Julio and also from the Coursasientos. The reflection
there for me along who are your friend? Rios Grito
(27:41):
the via via significo along Julio Day, Parsona Canclusi alaban
who the best and every day and the mythic comtion
(28:05):
okay and motors march and motor f and wat fromatos
and instance. There a community and they have a day
from differenties. It they also Julio community in every day.
(28:26):
It can't the end, It can't be ind the issues.
It can't the end of sex. Who shouts sibilical and
delivered to Gillian condo to swan yas their own. The couga,
(28:52):
what couba? You're too? Swagers h just when you're not
going up? Um, don't the capable to look one, just
(29:15):
when you're not Google? On the repeating, I said, oh man,
just when you're not Google. On the sec repetal de
los photos are lopings and different. Don't the repetal difference
(29:36):
here just when you're not Google and then represume don't,
then says, don't they clim assume weird lory clamor like
Jack that you shoes presentiment Instagram on a photo Blanco
(30:09):
Negro contains photo significant as a photo party it's just luck.
It's just lucksis it's cannot cannot put can know pulling Creer,
(30:38):
you know, pulling Bampo. Also Dan task person as Stims, Messas,
Annals and the city Salid the Cuba were Russia, you know,
(31:02):
Kia Merita land, the Kano, the Salila progress sooner really
that saying titress Annals behind the Gano and okay so
(31:26):
unqua young Salil, the supice como where they you know,
v a c andaque selling the goal for poor progress,
(32:07):
economical operating contract, familiar poem there familiar can know poema
employ vida so much money fishy really fishy la you
(32:28):
cannot via cm No, no, we are not in in
moely fishing Phisy Joe Intenden intra and Eerie Malamu triste
(32:58):
Joe in the Roba Pan Pacifico, in the traffical on
the first free fall a two ways, two um impression
and policia, and went from there it was Trampas Cafe
(33:43):
Gratian to viewer and not so Entrusia Laeta the Central
America and Mexico into the wound too to Japerson cleaning
la Ghana. Last there is and elmaris for real, can
(34:25):
know some there you can know can be on Cuba
Ciano's agent inn or kay guess look as goalless Lakusa.
They trust the last personas a thing, the poet, but
as a lead the superies or kay, how can a poem? No,
(34:53):
I cannot one done I person I cann keep in
case in case and intended amora. Yes, a persona peri
(35:19):
like Carceling and see it really like Uanas in particular
preferring morel an and Carcelaus for lossla carcels quentificoas carcel
(35:40):
Russaa faces Smrancius in the US with were them with
quasios to aria um cicolosolectoria the lictorial sa similar historical
(36:20):
They as a map. They are second Kenny of lies.
They has a leg solo mariel. They car carlamientos for
for the hen fork we momentus mementos mouch of mementos
and CoA and trans en carcilla for giver robas them
(36:47):
here for the net accessory of the heir or lagara
Yes laadnal Therallas comment in the little obtexually intoss we
(37:13):
defici in pm defice then deficient your too well and
they need a motion faces motion faces people and co
trans and her prostitutor inac non kra noel tres xualia,
(37:49):
cala geography, moretas emotions and trans if you move your
in towas nolo nolo not there they are when the
(38:12):
low fuel in pimos down one of the hour a
motion of the have you know those as those as
ald and Town or basis Perry and killer came to
(38:35):
familiar in Bres. You know sol town so Lamente Corando
own b Elenxia c assume trans k to her and
(38:55):
Carla Carlas in all of la Cosa said look, okay
(39:28):
I get I get no like a tying employing tomentos okay, okay, okay,
a grand poeta juano reinaldo arenas a crivio solo l
(39:49):
impossibly todo I possibly jo no cool the rio comos,
the grass, the nero corusciento, evenifico, contata cos eplicandolla and
(40:15):
come omega come come omeand needless ok the different cento
al audio. In the Criminals, you mainal persona to look
(40:37):
amias into de los atropeios de los ausos della the
local para septarity, the simplemente kien an appeal and to
pel accept q plus e comes the career, the career
(41:02):
nod to look look as sufrido seeing embargo, the scando
rando d uh local love for me, for me tongue
(41:37):
ton for look people for getting on the ratios, for
getting on the racial for getting and delivery, simplement take
it and ratios est restro mass and fatiko boo or
(42:18):
k totobo? Where are we ned and libertad In case
you dign that mirara poor elgo bierno portola associated aretlante
(42:38):
solid are you remains so means so pat no what
(43:00):
patre rida. On the final episode of our special series
s O s Cuba, we discuss how to forgive and
forget a lokuano. Can we truly come together for the
sake of a free Cuba and a more inclusive future
for the younger generations? Can we really put aside so
much pain and injustice inflicted by the regime to finally
(43:23):
united as one? We discuss what it will take to
heal and move forward for the sake of Una. S
os Cuba is produced by Enrigue Santos, Luisa Varona Ramirez,
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