Kicking off Latin Heritage Month Dramos is joined by Matthew Torres aka The Story Time Guy to talk about the Latin origins of Batman, Dramos does a deep dive into Puerto Rican hero Pedro Albizu Campos while also sharing celebrities you didn't know were Latino, and Antonio Milian shares a little known alien story that took over a Latin country.
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Speaker 9 (02:26):
Yes, hello and welcome to another episode of Life as
a Gringo.
Speaker 8 (02:29):
I am dramas of course.
Speaker 9 (02:31):
And man, it is a special special time because it's
officially Latin Heritage Month picked off on Friday the fifteenth,
or Latin a Heritage month, however you want to want
to say it.
Speaker 8 (02:41):
But we are in the midst of it. It's our month.
Be proud, be loud, be out there. Uh you know,
talk that talk. This is our month. And I'm really excited.
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I'm speaking on a couple I think different panels coming
up in just a few weeks in the beginning of October.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Just so much, so much going on. I feel like
I'm coming to this episode real high. I'll you right now.
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Speaker 9 (03:12):
But we are in the midst of Latin Heritage Month.
I am hyped for especially hype to bring you this
episode today. Latin history that you did not know. And man,
also before I even get into what we're talking about
on today's show. Very special thanks to Amazon Music for
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You can listen to this show Life Seo of course
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podcast on there if you're able to. And ma'am, so
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today's show, we are going to be talking Latin history
that you didn't know. I wanted to bring on a
few different people on today's show who are just content
creators who are constantly giving, you know, really valuable information
and history lessons from our community, lost history things you
didn't know, so on today's show helping me bring you
some of this Latin history that you didn't know. We're
gonna have Matthew Torres, the storytime guy. He's going to
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be bringing you something in the world of entertainment, right
as he kind of always does the world of com books,
movies and all those things, and gonna put us onto
the inspiration for Batman, which I had no idea has
a Latin origin, so we will have him on talking
about that. We're also going to have myself talking about
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Pedro Albiso Gampos, who is a Puerto Rican hero and
somebody who's fighting for the independence of Puerto Rico and
also exposing a a lot of the atrocities that the
US government committed on the people of Puerto Rico. So
we are going to be talking about him today. I'll
be filling in on that one, and then closing things out.
Speaker 10 (05:11):
Man.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
We've been talking a lot about aliens and having some
fun with that on the show, so we are going
to have Antonio Milion hopping on and sharing a really
interesting kind of story that happened in Latin America involving
some alleged aliens. So we'll have a little bit of
fun against some serious stuff. But first and foremost, I
thought it'd be cool to to kind of kick things
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off talking about some people that you may or may
not have known. Our Latin have Latin origin. I always
get excited when I hear. Some of my favorite artists
or creatives have some sort of Latin in them, So
we're going to start things off there. We're going to
dive into that in a segment we call for the
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Well, with that said, now let's get into our for
the people in the back segment say.
Speaker 11 (07:40):
A lot of the people in the say a lot
of the people in the see a lot of the
people of.
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All.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
Right, So first and foremost, before I get to this list,
it's on stars insider, I want to acknowledge that Jean
Michel Boscat, the artist, somebody who has been a huge
inspiration for me. I want to acknowledge the fact he's
actually half Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Rican and Haitian. I
had no idea when I first started getting into his artwork.
It's something that I feel like doesn't go doesn't get
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spoken about enough. I feel like, and yeah, he's, uh,
he's Puerto Rican. So you can you can add a
little check mark into our our section here for the
latinos winning with some John Michelle bosquis one of the
greatest artists of all time. Now let's get to this list, right,
I'm gonna go through some quicker because someone are pretty obvious,
like Jessica Alba.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
She is uh what is she?
Speaker 9 (08:40):
She is Mexican, she has Mexican she's her grandparents were
Mexican immigrants, Right, I feel like a lot of us
knew about her her sort of Latin origins, she's been
talking about that a lot more recently. I feel like
Bruno Mars we've heard about that he has some Puerto
Rican in him. Uma Thurman, I had no idea, idea,
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But her mom is actually Mexican.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
So look at that. Demie Levado knew this one. She
is Mexican. Let's see Alexis Bydell, who was in that show,
not Gossip Girls. What the hell is the the other show,
same era of television from the two thousands, What the
hell is that show called? She was in the show
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Gilmour Girls.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
That's That's what I was trying to think of. She's
actually Argentina and Spanish was her first language.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
I had no idea.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
You would have never known, uh looking at her. Bella
Thorne is Cuban. You have Camilla bell who is Brazilian.
Let's see Oscar Isaac who we kind of knew. He's
Guatemalan and Cuban. Aubrey Plaza is part Puerto Rican. This
one was very surprising to me. By the way, I
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just want to throw this one at there. Not Aubrey Paza.
She's been talking about that a lot recently. Snookie from
the Jersey Shore is actually Chile. In and was adopted
by an Italian family.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
This is one that kind of blew my mind, right
because it's all about, you know, Italian content with the
Jersey Shore. And she's actually Chilean, so that's pretty interesting.
I don't know if that's a winner or a loss
for us Latinos. But here we are.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Howie from the Backstreet Boys is actually Puerto Rican. I
believe his mother is Puerto Rican. Who else we got here?
Taboo from The Black Eyed Peas is the son of
Mexican parents. Tyo Cruz Brazilian mother Sarah Paxton, who I
am shocked by this but is apparently part Mexican. Her
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mother is Mexican Joane Garcia Cuban, I mean last name
like Garcia, you would think. But Stacy Dash who has
a bit of a troubled, you know, last few years.
I guess she is the daughter of a Mexican American mother.
Nicole Ritchie apparently has some Mexican heritage. I didn't know
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she was actually adopted by Lino Ritchie. This one blew
my fucking mind, by the way, But Hul Cogan, Hulk
Cogan the wrestler is actually has some Panamanian in him.
Allegedly right hul Cogan the wrestler has Panamanian him. This
one was a shock to me. Alexis Vega is a
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Colombian by her father. This one shocked me as well
because one of my favorite artists ever, Kid Cuddy, actually
has a father of Mexican heritage.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
So Kid Cutty, big.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Fan of his cat Vondie, already knew this one. She's
actually born in Mexico. Her parents at Beaver Farm, argent Tina,
I believe they said. And this one right here just
brings joy to my life, and it it further proves
I just think the two of us are are in
fact soulmates. Megan Good she actually is part Puerto Rican
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from her her grandmother's side, So you know, I feel
like it's just the universe is speaking to us.
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Speaker 9 (12:17):
Vana White her her father is from Buonte, Puerto Rico,
which I would have never thought.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Let's see Jordana Brewster from Fast and Furious. She was
born in Panama City to a Brazilian mother, Camery Diaz,
I think we knew this, but her family. I think
her dad comes from Cuba. Frankie Munez Puerto Rican descent.
Dad's Puerto Rican. Oscar de la Janta, who is the designer,
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actually born in the Dominican Republic, and I think he's
part Puerto Rican as well on his dad's side, it
says Sammy Davis Junior, I didn't know this one, Sammy
Davis Junior, I didn't know this one. His mother is
of Cuban descent. Calise the singer Calise Is is part
Puerto Rican. David Blaine, the magician, is actually part Puerto
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Rican as well. Swizz Beats the producer, uh, part Puerto Rican.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Let's see what else.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
Scott Fabulous, the rapper also half he's half Dominican. Didn't
know that before. Iva Leroue, I'm not really sure who
that is, but she has some Puerto Rican and her
apparently Lana Paria is the daughter of a Puerto Rican
baseball player.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Reggie Jackson, the Yankees great is half Puerto Rican. Puerto Ricans, listen,
it's I know it's a.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Latin Heritage month, but you'a already know I'm a very
proud Puerto Rican and I can't help make us into
a competition and we get a lot of them check
marks in on our column.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
I just want to throw that out there, like no
shapes abls, but you know we are here representing. Let's
see Ryan Goussmann, who is from Texas born to a
Mexican father. Dave Navarro, who is the guitarist of Jane's Addiction,
also hosts that tattoo show.
Speaker 13 (14:03):
I came.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
What the hell it's called?
Speaker 9 (14:05):
Is it Master of Ink or something like that. He
is of Mexican parents Mexican descent. David Archiletta, the former
American idol. He is from Hondas. I think his family
is from Trina. Okay, half Dominican.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Apparently I'm gonna skip through a few of these over
here because some of them are getting obscure.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Victoria Justice is uh, lot is Puerto Rican. Actually mom
is Puerto Rican. Let's see who else I recognize on here.
They give me a lot of damn names. I don't
know how long this damn this was.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Let's see Linda Perry. Okay, I didn't realize Linda Perry
was Brazilian. Okay, let's see. I think that's it. That's
the that's the entire list. I hope this was informative
for you. Listen.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
This isn't gonna be life changing for it, but I
just think it's really interesting when you find out, you know,
some people share a certain lineage.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I think it's also interesting that a lot of these people,
particularly of.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
A certain generation, have never spoke about their latinus or
acknowledged it, right, particularly when you look in the side
of like even like hip hop and rap like somebody
like Fabulous or Swiss Beats, both iconic in the world
of hip hop, and we never hear them acknowledge the
latin side of themselves or kid cutting, And I think
it kind of speaks to like the idea of sort
(15:26):
of latinus from that generation not being this cool thing,
and how that might have taken away your credibility in
the world of something like hip hop. So I think
it's a really, I don't know, just interesting kind of
conversation that this is kind of how much things have changed.
I guess I should say, right, because now it's like
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everyone wants to celebrate it, or even actresses like some
of like Cameron Diaz or all these people like you
never really heard them talking some like Cameron Diaz like that.
All these people you never really heard them talking about
it before. So I think it's a interesting kind of
change of times that we're in right now. All right,
So that was a little a little kind of you know,
some fun we're having with They're gonna going in and
(16:08):
out of some serious stuff, some fun. So with that said,
let's turn it over to some of the guests I
have on today's show sharing some interesting Latin history that
that they wanted to share. I kind of left it
up to them. Storytime Guy Matthew Torres and Antonio Million,
and I'll also be hopping in there with some uh
some I think important information in regards to Puerto Rica history.
But I also think just like the history of relationships
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between the US and our community. So we'll do all
that in our hint this segment, But first to take
a quick break and then we'll be right back.
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All.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Right, so it's only appropriate if we are telling Latin
history that you did not know that. We have somebody
who goes by the name the story Time Guy. My
new mattew Torre is always good to see you, brother.
Speaker 15 (19:23):
I'm gonna see too.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Man, it's exciting to be here, Yes, exactly, Latin hair,
it's fun. I'm so excited for man history of everything.
So yes, Berry, when you asked me to do this,
I'm like, yes, absolutely anything.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, Man, right up your lane. So I mean, let
like put me onto this. So like we're not just
some people you know listening. Note, I don't know any
of this stuff really ahead of time. I know a
little bit of what you're gonna talk about, So you're
gonna putting me onto something I have no idea about.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
So so what do you got for us today? What's
the piece of Latin history that people may not know
that you wanted to share. Yeah, so I want to
talk about the history of Batman or Zoro of how
all of that happened. Right, So, if Rose you don't know,
Batman one of the best superiors of all time. He's
actually based off of the Fox, famous folk tale character
(20:08):
by Johnson McCauley, now Dustin McCauley. We'll go a little
into him. But he was the writer of Zorro right
now and is not the best book, but he was
popular enough that Walt Disney really really enjoyed it, and
so he made a TV show and it became one
of the most popular shows at the time, and I
think to his death he regarded it as his favorite
(20:30):
live action thing he's ever done. He was like a
huge like Zoro Stan and he loves So that's the
kind of world that Batman was based. And if you
watch every single Batman movie that shows his origin of
his parents dying, the movie that Batman saw the last
movie he saw when his parents died. So there's only
one exception to that. It's the Batman begins as the
(20:52):
only exception. And even on the Wall they mentioned Zo,
but every Batman movie Zack Snyder's everything when they're watching
a movie as a callback to Zorto being the inspiration
for Batman. Right, So Zdo is Where's all Black, has
a black horse. He fights people. A lot of people
think he on his sword. He has a whip and
a gun that he uses fairly off it. He was
(21:16):
the first American superher with a secret identity. He was
the he was the penultimate original I have a secret identity,
and that's what he did. And he he would fight
crime and help indigenous people and the mestisos and Latinos
from the Spanish rule. Yeah, and that was his alt
and other than that though, when he was done, uh,
(21:36):
the Don Diego de la Vega, that was his like
ultimate danity. Everyone thought he was like a dandie boy.
That was like a huge part of his identity. That
like when someone walked over like there's a there's a
scene in the Disney Plus TV show of THEO Walt
Disney Show where the sheriff was like accusing everyone of
being and Don Diego's like, well, you haven't accused me yet,
and he's like, why would I accuse you? Man, He's like,
(21:58):
because you're accusing everyone, I couldn't store And he's like,
could you pick up that sword? Let me see when
he's like holding it like like oh, uncomfortably and he's
like you can get on a horse and he's like yeah,
and he's like tries to get a horse, and Kenn
He's like, you can't be zor like you can't even
ride a horse, you can hold a sword, like Sodo's
the greatest swordsman and the greatest horseback rider. And that's
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part of the identity and that really fits into how
Bruce Wwayne and Batman codes this with each other, you know, right.
So and once we know all that, Johnson McCully will
never has never outred stated he's dead now, but he
never outrested where he got the idea from Zoro from.
So it's all speculation, sure, but we've gotten to appointment
that we are ninety nine point nine percent sure where
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the speculation where he's where it eventually came from.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
So, Johnson McCully himself was a terrible person, as most
not early nineteen hundred riders, American riders often are. They're
they're drunks or their abusers or you know, he got
off on like a rape case. Like he was an awful,
awful person. Yeah, and he was racist and sexist. So
when he heard this legend of Joaquim Morietta from his grandpa,
his grandpa grew up in California where this legend started.
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His grandpa told him the story and he was like, oh,
I really liked that story. So he wanted to tell
this character, but he didn't want it to be an
indigenous person menesthiesils right, So he changed the identity of
Joaquim Murrietta. And I'll get to him in a second too.
So Zoto is ambiguously Latino. We know that his father
is from Spain, but they never ever ever mentioned and
(23:28):
bring up or talk about the mother. And so a
lot of people like myself, I've read a lot of
Zoto and i'll you know, learn the history of it.
It's like he has an almost unhealthy obsession with protecting
indigenous people and there's no reason for it. There's no
ever reason given. He's just he always predicts indigenous people
and with messisos and everything at the time with Spaniards,
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especially Spanish men. The assumption is that his wife or
his mother was probably the you know, an indigenous woman,
that his father was a Spaniard soldier who was a
very famous one, married an indigenous woman. She died, the
sun came out Insti solsen Carol the legacy, So that's
what we assume happened.
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Right.
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So going back before that, we have Joaquim Murieta, the
original the og, the guy that inspired Dodo, who inspired Batman. Right,
Joaquim Mariieta was a simple man. We don't know much
about him, but we do know that he did exist,
that he was very very famous. He was the most
famous outlaw in California, one of the most famous outlaws
in the entire wild West, because this man killed a
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lot of white people, specifically white people. What happened was
is that Jaquim Marietta, he was a regular farmer living
in California, right and during manifest Destiny, when all the
white Americans came, they're like, hey, we own this land. Now,
They're like, oh, we already lived here. We can't just
like claim this land that has been ours for generations. Well,
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one day, when Joaquim Marietta was gone, these two races,
I'm assuming racist. I don't know, but I'm assuming Grace's
white dudes went after his wife who was at home
and they killed her. So then Joaquin comes home and
they shoot him, but he lived through it. So his
wife is dead, his land is gone. He almost little
left for dead. So he runs to his brother for help.
He gets to his brother the city where his brother
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was living, and his brother is literally about to get
hung by the neck. His brother got into a fight
with some racist white dudes and the sheriff, who is white,
took their side, and so he unlawfully was hung by
the neck and killed. So you have Wayquin what he
had to have his wife gone, his land gone, his
job's gone, his brother's gone. He has nothing and no
(25:34):
one else. So what does he do? Turns to a
life of Graham turns into an outlaw, and he's like,
I'm going to get all these racist white tuos out
of my state. This is my country, this is my
home land. They've done nothing, they're gone, and so he
proceeds to go after them. He was one of the
first outlaws that specifically targeted them for the races, like, hey,
we know this land.
Speaker 15 (25:52):
They don't.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
He's Mestisos and so he is indigenous and he knows
the land enough, but he's able to use it to
his advantage. The fool crimes. And it wasn't just him
running and shooting.
Speaker 15 (26:02):
A bunch of people.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
He was actually smart in that he would pretend and
put on fake accents because these Mastisos and he was
passing enough that he could pretend to be white, and
he would go and hang out with like the KKK
and the you know, the racist white people, and they
would never know. And he would also put on fake
accents of being indigenous, so no one knew where he
was or how to find him. And he eventually got
so popular that he started a crime I guess a
(26:25):
crime ring called like I think it was the four
or five Joaquins, because they were all named Joaquin, or
in the very least, they chose to all be named Joaquin.
So he had a bunch of people and that eventually
spread to a whole They had a whole gang of
people who were like, yeah, let's take back our lives.
Eventually he got so popular that they're like, hey, anyone
finds him, you need to kill him because he's getting
out of control because he was never being caught. And
(26:49):
there's some there is so like there's not much information
on him and why he did what he did other
than that he wanted them out. But there's some instances
where he found Asian people shows to not go after
them where he like he saw the agents in the
Chinese and California's like, hey, you're not this is not
our battle, Like this is like it was implied that
(27:09):
he didn't necessarily because he Bolso viewed them as here,
but he viewed them less as antagonistic than he did
so in those instances, he really didn't do anything. The
same with Africa Maryan, He's like, look, you guys didn't.
This is not our fight. I'm not gonna go after you,
but don't bother me kind of right. And eventually what
happened to Joaquin is that he someone supposedly found him.
They cornered him and cut off his head. Now and
(27:32):
so so they carry around a jar with his head
and it got lost and they found it, and there's
a there's a Joaquin's head in the chart. The problem
is is that if you go back to the original incident,
as was reported, the person who did it said, I
found a guy who was an outlaw named Joaquin, so
I killed him. No one knows if that's actually Joaquin
what he had done. They just it was a guy
(27:54):
named Joaquin, which to me, I have to remind people
if you don't know like Latino named that's like going
into like like Texas. I mean, like I'm gonna kill
like I'm looking for a guy named one. Okay, good
good luck, I don't Yeah, you'll find you'll find a
guy named one. Is it the one you're looking for? Probably?
But as so, and then after that, after he was
(28:15):
declared dead and they got the bounty, we never saw
him again. He could be like, well, yeah, we never
saw because I killed him, or equally likely, he bounced.
I mean he was like, hey, I do what I
have to do. People think I'm dead. They don't know
what I look like. So he lived, you know, he
dipped out, and so that's the whole. So uh Johnson McCully,
who created all Red, all of that story, and he's like, god,
(28:36):
I love this, like this outlaw in California. He wants
to set it, have it take place in Los Angeles
and really like build up this California mythos wild West
because really at the time that wasn't something that anyone
was doing, which is why he really grew in California
and Los Angeles. Because Zoto is from Los Angeles. He's
not like, oh mad, no place like he is a
Los Angeles superhero and an old school too, you know.
(28:59):
So it's me. It's like, we have all these things
and he created this. He changed a few things around
because he was like, well, at the one I don't
want those guy like murdering white people. I'm not gonna
write about that because he himself was kind of racist.
But he's like, but I'll take this idea of this
outlaw who has these multiple identities and multiple things and
really just goes for it. So I just want to
share that you guys. To me, I'm like, that is
the coolest thing of having this Latino outlaw that. I mean,
(29:23):
he didn't know he would be the inspiration indirectly for
one of the coolest superheroes ever. He was just being
smart about things. He was being an out at His
gun skill was never brought up, like he shot a
few people whatever. You know, it's like because you often
hear cowboys, Oh he could shoot this joking was never
about that. It was about tricking people, about outsmarting people,
about constantly putting them in robbing people. Because he would
(29:45):
never rob people at gunpoint. He would trick them. He'd
be like, oh, I'm here to get this, and he
would put on dozens of fake acts and so much
the point no one knew who he was because they
didn't know if it was someone else pretating to be him,
if it was actually him. He would hire people, regular
farmers and be like, hey, go say names and go
like do this, and they would do it, and he'd
pay them and then they're like, oh, wa, King's an
eighty year old man, Like is.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
So to me?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
It's like, that's what I love about our American folk
tale history is that American history, especially Latin American history,
it's often seen as outside of the United States, we
never get Latin American history in the United States. And
often when it comes to these big things like we
have cowboys. Everybody loves cowboys and Antioakley and you.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
Know Billy M.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Kidd and you know Buffalo Bill, all these things, but
we never really see cowboys outside of like white people
because narratives. You know, a lot of these people told
their own stories. So for me, it's to hear the
sa se jaquinoetas to go like, hey, we were here,
We've been here. This is the story of our people.
And Latinos were cowboys for the original cowboys, we're the vocanos,
(30:48):
the caballeros, you know. So to me, it's this really
interesting story of our history. And at the same time,
it's like it reminds you that just because our stories
aren't always told, doesn't mean we're not there. You know,
right parts of the Caribbean. Where's spirits of the Caribbean
taking place in the Caribbean, right right? How many Latino
pirates do you see in those movies. How many pirates
see yeah, Latino piratecy hear about you? Does is maga?
Speaker 15 (31:11):
How can there be a whole.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Area of Caribbean along Florida, along the Caribbean and Puerto
Rico and and there's no, there's no Latinos. They're like right, right, right, No,
it's it's it is interesting.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
It's because we often think the California's history starts like
or Texas even starts when it becomes a part of
the United States, But we forget there's a whole like
that that was its own thing. There were people living
there prior to all of this, right, And there's there's
so many different stories that are left untold.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
And even I had no idea that Zoro was the
inspiration for Batman. That that's a new information to to me.
So let me ask you.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I haven't seen my only my only sort of relationship
with Zoro is the movie with Antonio Bendaraz, which I
saw when I was a kid when it first came out.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
And there's a car to the version of it, right
that preceded it.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Yeah, So, how so this whole thing is like somewhat
dark for like a cartoon kind of right, So what
is the cartoon version of it, Like, uh, the cartoon version, I.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Couldn't tell you much about that, but I can tell
you about the history of Zoro in film. Yeah, because
he's public domain. He has been adapted several times. He
has been there have been god, there's like over thirty
or forty films and shows about Zodol. But in every
single instance he's been played by a white guy. Right,
So it's so it's one of those weird things. And currently,
(32:34):
the way it happened as Johnson mccoley gave his publisher
the rights, well, even after the rights dissipated because of
copyright and public domain lost the authorship of the of
the copyright, would sue people who try to do Zoro
because he's like, oh, no, I have Zoro Productions, so
therefore I own Zora. And they're like, well, he's public domain.
They're like, oh, but the only the first book is
(32:55):
public domain. You have to wait three years for the
other book. And if you use something outside of that
first book, that's that breaks type of right. So I'm
gonna sue you. So he himself is the guy who's
in charge of the Zora copyrights is a terrible terrible
scum by Perdson, and he's still working. He's produced all
those Zora films. He pretty much goes up things, I'll
sue you, or you make me a producer on your film.
He worked on Antonio Bands one. He's working on the
(33:17):
new one with Will marrad Ramas, which I don't know
if that'll ever get made. Yeah, but they're currently you know,
with Will my brother Lama Valdamas. They're trying to do
a modern Zoro and let's see about that. But yeah,
so me, it's like, it's it's really interesting that our
history or character of this of our own fair you
(33:39):
know folk tale character is still to this day being
held in a tight grip.
Speaker 11 (33:43):
You know.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
It's like, yeah, we can eat the lots of this
farm and he's still his legacy is still being Yeah. No,
it's fast.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I mean even even James Bond is like based off
of a Dominican man, you know what I mean, if
I'm not mistaken from uh, Chris Rebas when I had
him on the show, was telling me about it, and
I had no idea about that, right, So it's just
it is like this whitewashing of our history that happened
and nobody kind of speaks about it, you know. So
this is fascinating to know that something as big as
(34:10):
Batman is based off of a real Latin figure that
was then adapted into you know, the idea of Zoro
and then adapted into into Batman. So man, you put
me onto some some game today, bro, Thank you and
thank yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
And like I said, every movie always plays for you know,
pas reference tribute to this thing that comic books do
as well. If you watch the Harley Quinn Poison Avy Show,
I said, Jack Nunders the Timber. Every single movie pays
homage to Zoro. That is the movie. That's why even
in universe, Bruce Wayne has stated one of his favorite
(34:44):
movies is the original nineteen twenty something or nineteen thirty
character Zorro because that's who he looks up to in
real life. So for all the people that love Batman
and you're Latino and you want a little bit and
it's just remind yourself that Bruce Wayne one of the
people that he looks up to ISO. I think that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 12 (35:01):
Now.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
That's that gives me some Easter eggs to now go
back and rewatch some of those those movies and see
it from a different ledsmit, I appreciate it, dude. Well listen,
ber I appreciate you contributing to the episode and sharing
that story. You put me onto something I didn't know.
Where can people follow you? You do all kinds of
deep dives into Latin history and folklore and things like that.
So if they want to check out more, where can
they follow you?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Yeah, I'm at the storytime Guy.
Speaker 15 (35:23):
What words the story time Guy?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:25):
You can find on Instagram TikTok. I do a few
things on YouTube, do a little flowing your deep thumbs,
especially into Aztec mythology. So yeah, I feel like asthik mythology,
Latin American folk tales. I do folktales from around the
world too, especially like focusing on African American folk tales
as well. You know, phone tales that just start talking.
We always I don't know how many reboots and remakes
of Cinderella and so on. We know we don't have
(35:46):
to turn those characters. We got our own stories to tell,
We got amazine story stell. We just gotta tell them.
So if you like that kind of stuff, you like Corror,
I'm the guy for you. You're gonna have a great time.
Beautiful my bro Well listen. Always good catching up with you.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I'm sure I'll see you soon for a regular episode,
but it was good to have you on here as
we kick off Latin Heritage Month sharing some Latin history
that people didn't know.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Thank you more, you have a nice day.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Man. Big shot to my guy Matthew Torre's aka the
Storytime Guy for hopping on and giving us that information
that had no idea about. I think it's a fun
piece of information. It's like some good cocktail. Knowledge to
have is that they call it cocktail.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
I don't know if you're sitting at the dinner table,
and this is a fun little fact you can bring
up to your family or to your kids right when
they're watching Batman, let them know the inspiration was actually
a Latino. I think that's a beautiful thing. Now moving
on to something a little more serious.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
This one is like political history, and I think just
cultural history that's a bit dark.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
I want to talk about Pedro.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
I'll be so compos right and I would sort of
describe him as like the Puerto Rican Malcolm X almost right.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
He was that for us.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
He was a part of the independence movement for Puerto Rico,
known by many as El Maetro, he was one of
the most prominent Puerto Rican political figures of the twentieth century,
a national hero who sacrificed his life for the freedom
of his country. And this is bits and pieces from
an article that I pulled on the aluc websites, and
(37:14):
they had a really cool, kind of comprehensive sort of
timeline of his life. I also put a few different
things they had mentioned. I built off it a little bit,
but I'll be so. Graduated from Harvard Law in nineteen
twenty one while simultaneously studying literature, philosophy, chemical engineering, and
military science at Harvard College. He was fluent in six
(37:36):
modern and two classical languages, English, Spanish, French, German, Portuguese, Italian, Latin,
Ancient Greek. So, you know, very smart, smart kind of guy.
And we're gonna kind of get into a bit of
what he did and some of the fight that he
sort of had where he was fighting for the independence
(37:57):
of Puerto Rico and also exposing some atrocities that were happening.
But I do want to talk about real quick some
of his accolades, as were kind of mentioning here because
at the time that he was going to Harvard Law,
there was a lot of racism happening, and albiso coppos
by many sort of you know, conversations or by many accounts,
(38:21):
I should say, it was an Afro Latino, right, So
not only Puerto Rican, but he's also a darker skinned man,
a black man at the end of the day, right,
and he is somebody who obviously is defining the odds
going to something as prestigious as Harvard Law, particularly in
the time that he was there. I mean, upon his
(38:41):
graduation from law school, he was recruited for several prestigious positions,
including law clerkship to the US Supreme Court, a diplomatic
post with the US State Department, the Regional Vice Presidency
Caribbean Region of the US Agricultural Syndicate, and a tenured
faculty appointment to the University of Puerto Rico. Right, A
lot of options he had, and his main thing was
(39:03):
to fight for the people of Puerto Rico. But what
I want to sort of paint a timeline is we're
in the nineteen twenties here, right. So June twenty third,
nineteen twenty one, he graduates from Harvard Law, but without
his law diploma. Right, so, he had been the victim
of racial discrimination by one of his professors, and the
professor actually delayed Albiso Compos's third year final exams for
(39:26):
his courses in Evidence in Corporations. Albiso was about to
graduate with the highest grade point average in his entire
law school class, highest grade point average in his entire
law school class. As such, he was scheduled to give
the valedictory speech during the graduation ceremonies. His professor actually
delayed his exam so he could not complete his work
(39:48):
and avoided the quote embarrassment of a Puerto Rican law valedictorian.
So that shows you the time period of the things
that this man was working against and pushing back against.
Right now, when it comes to his actual, you know,
work with Puerto Rico and what he was fighting for,
you know, he was instrumental in winning an island wide
sugar cane strike and actually was part of the reason
(40:11):
that a just atrocity was exposed. Right there was a
secret medical experiment happening that was actually sponsored by the
Rockefeller Institute, and they were experimenting on Puerto Ricans and
Albiso compos was one of the people who helped expose this.
Speaker 16 (40:24):
Right.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
So this story, which is really dark and just sort
of kind of shows you where we were and a
lot of the dark history between America and the United
States and the powers that be in general, and a
lot of the racism that happens towards Puerto Ricans and
has sort of been buried in the laws. In nineteen thirties,
(40:45):
you had doctor Cornelius Rhodes going to Puerto Rico, to quote,
working in public health to alleviate disease. And this is
a quote from author Daniel Immerwar who wrote a book
about this, But he says he immediately started running all
kinds of experiments that it's almost impossible to imagine him
doing on the mainland, certainly not on white patients. He
(41:06):
refused to treat some of his patients just to see
what would happen with them. In other patients, he actually
tried to induce disease in them. He described them to
his colleagues as experimental animals. So he's talking about Puerto
Rican people, this white doctor and describing them as experimental animals.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Right now.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
Rhodes went on to write a letter to a colleague
in Boston, saying that while the place is quote beautiful,
Puerto Ricans are quote beyond doubt the dirtiest, laziest, most degenerate,
and deevish race of men ever inhabiting this sphere. It
makes you sick to inhabit the same island with them.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Now.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
Ironically, he went on to serve as the director of
Memorial Hospital for Cancer Research in New York and as
the first director of Sloane Kettering Institute, becoming the director
of the combined Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, which is
still around to this day. For his contributions to cancer research,
Rhodes was actually featured on the cover of the June
(42:05):
twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine issue of Time magazine under
the title cancer Fighter. Right, and this is somebody who
was running experiments on other human beings as if they
were lab animals just because they were brown.
Speaker 8 (42:21):
Essentially right, and just truly.
Speaker 9 (42:26):
Truly just disgusting stuff when you think about it, right,
And the things that are said and that were eventually
exposed in this letter and of these so compost help
expose this stuff. Man, It's just like it shows you
the ideology that exists through when a lot of the
laws that affect Puerto Ricans till this day were put
in place. Right, so during this time period when you
(42:47):
had the laws that are still abided by essentially that
leave Puerto Rico as a colony, and the rights that
there's the citizens of Puerto Rico do and don't have.
You know, a lot of these laws were created by
people who shared in the same mindset as this person,
doctor Cornelis Roades, who went on to be celebrated as
a hero even with this sort of dark history. Now
(43:09):
moving back to Elbiso compos he developed the theory of
non collaboration with the colonial structures. Right, so he talks
about boycotting elections and military service. He soon became a
target of the colonial forces talking about America. Here was
arrested and charged with seditious conspiracy. From the mid thirties
to the early sixties, Pagro Abisilcampos would be in and
(43:31):
out of US prisons for twenty five years. During his incarceration,
he repeatedly charged that he was a target of human
radiation experiments. His skin severely swollen and cracking, he covered
himself with wet towels. Jailers thought he was crazy, But
today there is proof that radiation experiments did take place.
And to back that up, I pulled a tidbit from
(43:54):
nineteen ninety four, under the administration of ex President Bill Clinton,
the United States Department of Energy disclosed that human radiation
experiments had been conducted without consent on prisoners in Puerto
Rico during the nineteen fifties and seventies. Right, So again,
there is a history here of the powers that be
(44:15):
viewing Puerto Ricans as less than human. And those are
the same people who have been in charge of the
fate of this island and its citizens, you know, since
since it became a colony of the United States. It's
kind of dark, right, kind of disgusting, and it's sad
that these are the things that are not spoken about enough.
And when I have critiques of the United States and
(44:38):
am outspoken about things, it's with the knowledge that the
US has committed so many different atrocities. It's not a
perfect place. The powers that be are by no means perfect.
They've supported racist practices and disgusting and inhumane, you know,
practices at the end of the day, and we need
to hold them accountable, and if we don't, who to
(45:00):
stop them from doing things like this in the future.
Speaker 13 (45:02):
Right.
Speaker 9 (45:03):
That's why it's incredible to me when people claim it's
anti patriotic to critique the government when they've proven time
and time again they're not perfect, they don't always have
the people's best interest in mind, and if we aren't
holding them accountable or trying to it, it really just
opens the door for far more atrocities to happen.
Speaker 8 (45:24):
Now, back to our Biaso compos his fight for.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Puerto Rican independence quote, the good people of the US
are not to be blamed for the shameless conduct of
certain government officials. He argued this in court and at
the podium, that the US occupation of Puerto Rico was illegal.
His legal argument was based on the question of the
US being awarded proprietary rights over Puerto Rico by virtue
(45:47):
of the Paris Peace Treaty of eighteen ninety eight. The
island was handed over by Spain, along with Cuba and
the Philippines as spoils of the war to the US.
He claimed that the treaty was nullified by the fact
that Spain had previously granted autonomy to Puerto Rico in
eighteen ninety seven. By the time of the treaty, Puerto
Rico had its own coin, its own posted stamps, mail
(46:07):
and custom service, and was therefore a sovereign, independent nation
under international law. Spain, he claimed, had no right to
give away another sovereign nation. Furthermore, Puerto Rico, per se,
had never participated at the treaty, nor even been consulted.
His themation was to the effect that this country's consent
to its association to the US, never having been asked
(46:28):
nor conceded, the acquisition affected by the US under said
treaty is a violation of international law. Now, he never
accepted the United States' rights to govern Puerto Rico. He
did reach that quote. If they won't listen to legal reason,
we must take up arms against the invaders end quote.
Speaker 8 (46:45):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Another interesting piece of information is both Cuba and the Philippines,
where the Spanish American War was fought, were granted their independence.
Only Puerto Rico, where there was no major fighting, is
still controlled by the United States till this day. Of course,
In nineteen fifty, I'll be so composed suffered a stroke
in prison and was transferred to San Juan's Presbyterian Hospital
under police guard. On November fifteenth, nineteen sixty four, on
(47:09):
the brink of death, Pedro bis So Compos was pardoned
by Governor Luis Munos Marim. He died April twenty first,
nineteen sixty five. More than seventy five thousand Puerto Ricans
were part of a procession that accompanied his body for
the burial in Old San Juan Cemetery. So I just
wanted to bring this story. And obviously, if you're Puerto Rican,
(47:32):
this hits really close to home. If you're not, I
think that you can relate in a bit of the struggles,
and I think you can share in probably some of
the anger and the validation of knowing that this country
has done a lot of evil things to people of color,
and much of it is under reported, not reported at all. Right,
(47:54):
Like I didn't learn about Pedro bis So Compos until
fairly recently. I feel, like you know, later in my life,
wasn't something that was spoken about. We don't talk about
this shit in textbooks, you know. And the only reason
that his his memory, his story, and these these atrocities
are spoken about is people like myself and people that
(48:16):
I've read from who are refusing to allow our history
to die. And that's why it's important to share things
like this and for us to be aware of it
and to also, you know, have that information that when
people wonder why we have a certain mistrust of our
government or this country as people of color, specifically as Latinos,
(48:37):
we can point to stories like this one that proved
that this place was never designed for people like us. Right,
we reviewed as lesser than and they've done countless things
to continue to not only make us feel that way,
but to put into practice ways that they can legally
treat us that way, as lesser than and not human.
And when you see the letters like from someone from
(48:59):
the doctor Corneati's roads writing so freely things like this,
and uh, somebody that then gets celebrated as a you know,
a hero in medicine, it's just kind.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
Of shows you that. And these these powerful people of.
Speaker 9 (49:13):
Those time periods when a lot of these laws and
ideas were being put into place, like what they really
thought of of people who look.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
Like you and I, and it wasn't something positive.
Speaker 9 (49:23):
And someone like pagrobis so compos you know that he
wasn't successful in his fight for independence, for Puerto Rico.
Speaker 8 (49:29):
You know, he gave his life for this. You know,
he was with somebody who.
Speaker 9 (49:34):
You know, made it his life's mission, his life's work,
and and uh, and I think that's that's something to
be celebrated at in the day. Not a lot of
people would literally give their life for any particular cause,
let alone the cause of an entire sort of nation
of people. And I just think it's it's needs to
be celebrated and talked about again, like he's our our
(49:55):
Malcolm X's essentially right, and his story needs to be
kept alive because what it means for you know, Porcans,
but I think Latinos as a whole in in our
constant fight for quality and what's right. At the end
of the day, Now, that was a bit heavy, so
we're gonna post things out on a bit of a
lighter note with my guy Antonio Million. We'll talk about
some some aliens, so we'll get into that. But I
(50:18):
think now it's a good time take a quick break,
and then we'll be right back.
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So one of my favorite creators that is just I
think a compelling storyteller. It always puts me onto history
that I'm not even keen. You know too, when it
comes to our culture is my guy and so so
first and foremost my dude. Welcome back, to the show.
Speaker 15 (53:04):
Thank you man, thank you for having me. As always,
it's always a pleasure coming on here to be a guess.
Speaker 8 (53:10):
Yeah, we're dude, We're we're We're in the midst of
we're kicking off.
Speaker 13 (53:14):
This is my first episode for Latin History Month, LATINX
History Month, Latin History Month. However, you know, anybody wants
to identify it as and I thought the best way
to do it was to have some of you guys
who really are you know, helping tell our stories, to
come on and tell some Latin history that people may
not know. So I'm gonna kind of turn the reins
(53:36):
over to you. I want to know what you kind
of you know, picked for us for today to kind
of put people onto some history they may not be
keen to.
Speaker 15 (53:43):
Absolutely, So, you've heard of War of the World, right,
Like back in nineteen thirties, Eighth Street, Well, he came
up with this concept called War of the World, and
it spooked a lot of people. He went on the
radio and he was basically like alluding to the fact
that aliens were invading New Jersey. They were they were
on their way to New York, and it instilled mass panic.
You're familiar with that right.
Speaker 8 (54:04):
Yeah, absolutely, people weren't sure.
Speaker 13 (54:06):
They thought it was a real news cast even though
it was like supposed to just be like an entertainment show.
Speaker 15 (54:11):
Absolutely, so people thought, like you said it was, they
thought it was a real newscast, but it was really
just an entertainment radio program. But so people don't talk
about how often that happened after, specifically in Latin America,
specifically in South America. So in Chile they did one
(54:31):
where it instilled mass panic to the point where somebody
had a heart attack and died. So that's something that
like no one talks about. But the biggest one was
in Ecuador. So the guy who started it, he was
a ra He worked for Radio Quito in the capitol
of Ecuador, and he got the idea for h for
(54:51):
this world of world's type of thing to make it
to put in an Ecuadorian context. In nineteen forty four,
he made a drama and basically he included real people.
So he included a very well known orchestra person. So
(55:13):
in the beginning he played the orchestra music, and then
he cut the orchestra music off and he started talking
like he was a news broadcaster. Basically staying saying that like,
you know, hey, they're these green men that are in
this small town in Ecuador. They are you know, they're coming.
We don't know what to do. People started freaking out
(55:34):
so much sohow that it got to the president's office
in Ecuador and he dispatched the military to this small town.
The guy who did this, his name was Corge Rabananeira,
and he was nineteen at the time. So think about
like where we were when we were nineteen and like
all the cries that we were doing we were in nineteen.
(55:55):
So and it took place, and he took place on
a Saturday night. He worked for basically the local radio station.
It was a Saturday night where people would be home
and what they would be normally listening to music, and
he played the music for long enough so that people
would get comfortable and they would be like, oh, this
is this is really you know, peaceful music whatever, and
(56:17):
then he cut it and then he was like, hey,
there are these green aliens and they're coming towards the capitol.
He even stated that there was a cylindrical object that
had crashed in this small little town that these aliens
were coming from. He even said that the well known
musician Leonardo Paiez that he included was fried by green
(56:42):
bolts from one of these aliens. So it wasn't It
wasn't really like if let's say, for example, like you know,
I got on the radio, you got on the radio
and you were like, Yo, an alien just crashed in
Atlanta and it killed GEEZI. People would be like, yo,
that's you know what I mean? Right, So the equivalent,
(57:03):
it's equivalent to that. The guy as of twenty fourteen,
the guy Jorge Ravanera, he is actually he was still
alive in twenty fourteen. I wasn't able to find anything
about him recently. I don't know. He was eighty three
years old and basically like he was like his family
started calling him asking if he was okay, and he
(57:26):
was like, oh no, no, it's just a joke. But
the word had gotten out so far that it became
more than just a joke. There were people running around
in the streets, there were police heading towards this small town,
Coto Carlo, police military, it's still mass panic. Even his
(57:46):
mother came to get him from the radio. Fiction. So yeah,
this is this is a this is like a history
fact that like not a lot of people know about,
especially when it comes to like the recent knew that
there might be aliens are out out there, or there
are aliens out there, and Mexico recently just released some
(58:07):
imagery of what we believed to be are aliens. So
I thought that was a cool tie in to like,
what's kind of what's going on now? Yeah, well it's
funny a yeah.
Speaker 13 (58:18):
In Latin America in general, you have always had a
lot of UFO sightings, right and reported UFO sightings, and
even back to the times of like the Mayans or
the Aztecs, you know, there's a lot of UFO stories
about you know, possibly aliens helping them build these pyramids
and all these things, right, so it's very much tied
into our culture. And then yet you have the dude
(58:41):
in Mexico City presenting in front of Congress recently from
the Mexican Congress with these alleged alien corpuses. But actually,
what came to my mind beyond like the literal alien
stuff is, uh, this is kind of also our modern
media to a degree, right when it comes to politics
and the way that it's kind of they're just using
(59:03):
the same tactics, but they're not filling you in on
the tact that it's a joke at at any point, right,
and something like January six is not to make it political,
but it's something like January sixth and something very similar,
except people end up going to fucking jail over the
lie that was being told that they essentially.
Speaker 15 (59:22):
And even like with the whole alien thing, with the
guy presenting before our Congress in the US, it's like,
you know, how much of this is real? And how
much is it that the military saying, Hey, we want
more money to make more advanced ship you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (59:34):
Right?
Speaker 15 (59:36):
That's actually great.
Speaker 13 (59:36):
I never really I never even thought of that being
like the vantage point as to why now there's like
far more open dialogue or things being declassified or people
coming out and speaking of it.
Speaker 8 (59:50):
That's a great, a great advantage point.
Speaker 13 (59:51):
Yeah, maybe they really just want some more money to
make some some crazier technology rockets and.
Speaker 15 (59:57):
Right right, Yeah, But eventually, whatever happened what happened to
this guy from my understanding, uh, he ended up fleeing
the radio broadcaster end up fleeing to Mexico. He lived
in Mexico for a while. I think they were they
were talking about like pressing charges against him for instilling
mass panic, and he eventually moved back to Quito, back
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to Ecuador, and I think he lived there. If he
is still alive, he was eighty three and in twenty fourteen,
so you know he would be well in his he
would be like ninety two now. But yeah, you know,
I couldn't find anything about whether or not he was
still a lot, But I just thought it was a
crazy story. It went a lot deeper than what happened
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here in the United States, and it's not something that's
ever really ever talked about.
Speaker 13 (01:00:46):
Right right now that that's a funny little a little
like kind of fact, is that the dude who did
war the world, he was he brought up on charges
or no, because it was it was It wasn't like spontaneous.
Speaker 15 (01:00:58):
I don't think he was. Because I think the whole
the whole idea was for his show was that like, hey, like,
this is a this is a this is a program,
this isn't a news show, this is a thread. So
people just kind of were like, oh, this is different,
so they freaked out.
Speaker 13 (01:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, there's like a genius
to this. I think in like as a creative it
gets my brain thinking a little bit. But it's also
like so much of the modern era that we live
in with TikTok and all these different things where people
are creating these fake things for the sake of capturing reactions,
you know. And and it's interesting that it goes all
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the way back to what the forties you're talking about, right,
this is this thing man, Yes, that's four man and
a different a different world especially you think about it.
Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
In today's day and age, we have like everything is
so visual, but back then, you know, their television was
the radio, right, you would listen to like a show,
and that would be your entertainment essentially, So you don't
even have like the ability to pick apart the visual
component of it.
Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
You're just listening, uh to it and and your your
ears can be deceived by how authentic it ends up sounding. Right,
There's less there's less of like a barrier to entry
when it comes to making it feel real.
Speaker 15 (01:02:14):
Rights. It's similar to like like you said, the news,
Like you know, you see the news for what it
is and you don't really question it. Yeah, so we
kind of have the same thing going on now visually
that they have going on auditory back then. Like they
didn't question it. They were like, oh shit, there's aliens
in New Jersey, right, you know it's New Jersey, Like
(01:02:36):
why would aliens come to New Jersey.
Speaker 18 (01:02:39):
Hey, we're not gonna be a New Jersey slander on
the show. Okay, but my dude, I always appreciate you
man for hopping out here and being one of the creators.
Speaker 15 (01:02:49):
We're gonna have it on the show today.
Speaker 13 (01:02:52):
I know you're always telling little stories like this one
that you're researching on on everything all Latin culture. So
where can people follow you and keep up to the
other stuff you're doing. Yeah, so TikTok, Instagram, Death not ant.
Speaker 15 (01:03:05):
I'm on Facebook now so death not ant LinkedIn, uh,
Antonio Million, So yeah, you can follow me wherever I
post content on all those platforms.
Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
Perfect. Well, my dude, always get seeing your brother and
we'll have you back on Zoon.
Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
Awesome, man, take care of yourself.
Speaker 9 (01:03:21):
Fine man, So big shout out to my guests today,
the Storytime guy Matthew Torres and my guy Antonio Million
for sharing some stories that they found super interesting Latin history.
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You may not have known, h man. I'm I'm excited
to kind of bring this episode to life. I was
doing on it.
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How do we kick off, you know, Latin Heritage Month,
And I thought the best way possible just be throwing
some some facts about our community that maybe you didn't know.
So with that said, let's tie everything we talked about
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have known are our Latino come from Latin descent. Some
some were obvious, not too much. I think it tells
the narrative of the fact that like people had to
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hide the Latinus in order to find success. Right. And
while that's obviously because it's cool to be Latin, now,
I think it's it's I don't know, man, it rubbed.
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so long, and why it's so important for us to
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us as as people and not have to worry that
if we showcase who we truly are, they're they're going to,
you know, not give us the opportunities that we deserve, right.
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in the world of entertainment. And and then I think
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even you know, when it comes to our history, right,
we're talking about Latin history. You didn't know Matthew Tory
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people who are familiar with this in the in the
world of comic books, but it's the idea that, like Batman,
one of the biggest superheroes known to man, his origins
come from a Latin in folklore, right, And I think
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there's something beautiful about that. I think it also shows
you the whitewashing of Hollywood in general and entertainment in general,
where they made it a white man and that was
the sort of narrative behind it. But you know, I
think those are things to be celebrated, right. So, like
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as people where we can stand proudly and knowing that
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like our history is long ingrained in the history of
this country and this world, no matter how much people
try to erase it. You know, we've been making contributions
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the watch of this government or under the direct orders
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you know, for for for brown people, for Latinos as
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and love have a little bit of fun with Antonio
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And man, it is a special special time because it's
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or Latin a Heritage month, however you want to want
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I'm speaking on a couple I think different panels coming
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today's show, we are going to be talking Latin history
that you didn't know. I wanted to bring on a
few different people on today's show who are just content
creators who are constantly giving, you know, really valuable information
and history lessons from our community, lost history things you
didn't know, so on today's show helping me bring you
some of this Latin history that you didn't know. We're
gonna have Matthew Torres, the storytime guy. He's going to
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be bringing you something in the world of entertainment, right
as he kind of always does the world of com books,
movies and all those things, and gonna put us onto
the inspiration for Batman, which I had no idea has
a Latin origin, so we will have him on talking
about that. We're also going to have myself talking about
(04:51):
Pedro Albiso Gampos, who is a Puerto Rican hero and
somebody who's fighting for the independence of Puerto Rico and
also exposing a a lot of the atrocities that the
US government committed on the people of Puerto Rico. So
we are going to be talking about him today. I'll
be filling in on that one, and then closing things out.
Speaker 10 (05:11):
Man.
Speaker 9 (05:12):
We've been talking a lot about aliens and having some
fun with that on the show, so we are going
to have Antonio Milion hopping on and sharing a really
interesting kind of story that happened in Latin America involving
some alleged aliens. So we'll have a little bit of
fun against some serious stuff. But first and foremost, I
thought it'd be cool to to kind of kick things
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off talking about some people that you may or may
not have known. Our Latin have Latin origin. I always
get excited when I hear. Some of my favorite artists
or creatives have some sort of Latin in them, So
we're going to start things off there. We're going to
dive into that in a segment we call for the
people in the back. And actually, before we get into that,
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Speaker 11 (07:34):
All right.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Well, with that said, now let's get into our for
the people in the back segment say.
Speaker 11 (07:40):
A lot of the people in the say a lot
of the people in the see a lot of the
people of.
Speaker 12 (07:57):
All.
Speaker 9 (07:57):
Right, So first and foremost, before I get to this list,
it's on stars insider, I want to acknowledge that Jean
Michel Boscat, the artist, somebody who has been a huge
inspiration for me. I want to acknowledge the fact he's
actually half Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Rican and Haitian. I
had no idea when I first started getting into his artwork.
It's something that I feel like doesn't go doesn't get
(08:18):
spoken about enough. I feel like, and yeah, he's, uh,
he's Puerto Rican. So you can you can add a
little check mark into our our section here for the
latinos winning with some John Michelle bosquis one of the
greatest artists of all time. Now let's get to this list, right,
I'm gonna go through some quicker because someone are pretty obvious,
like Jessica Alba.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
She is uh what is she?
Speaker 9 (08:40):
She is Mexican, she has Mexican she's her grandparents were
Mexican immigrants, Right, I feel like a lot of us
knew about her her sort of Latin origins, she's been
talking about that a lot more recently. I feel like
Bruno Mars we've heard about that he has some Puerto
Rican in him. Uma Thurman, I had no idea, idea,
(09:00):
But her mom is actually Mexican.
Speaker 8 (09:03):
So look at that. Demie Levado knew this one. She
is Mexican. Let's see Alexis Bydell, who was in that show,
not Gossip Girls. What the hell is the the other show,
same era of television from the two thousands, What the
hell is that show called? She was in the show
(09:25):
Gilmour Girls.
Speaker 9 (09:26):
That's That's what I was trying to think of. She's
actually Argentina and Spanish was her first language.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
I had no idea.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
You would have never known, uh looking at her. Bella
Thorne is Cuban. You have Camilla bell who is Brazilian.
Let's see Oscar Isaac who we kind of knew. He's
Guatemalan and Cuban. Aubrey Plaza is part Puerto Rican. This
one was very surprising to me. By the way, I
(09:52):
just want to throw this one at there. Not Aubrey Paza.
She's been talking about that a lot recently. Snookie from
the Jersey Shore is actually Chile. In and was adopted
by an Italian family.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
This is one that kind of blew my mind, right
because it's all about, you know, Italian content with the
Jersey Shore. And she's actually Chilean, so that's pretty interesting.
I don't know if that's a winner or a loss
for us Latinos. But here we are.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Howie from the Backstreet Boys is actually Puerto Rican. I
believe his mother is Puerto Rican. Who else we got here?
Taboo from The Black Eyed Peas is the son of
Mexican parents. Tyo Cruz Brazilian mother Sarah Paxton, who I
am shocked by this but is apparently part Mexican. Her
(10:38):
mother is Mexican Joane Garcia Cuban, I mean last name
like Garcia, you would think. But Stacy Dash who has
a bit of a troubled, you know, last few years.
I guess she is the daughter of a Mexican American mother.
Nicole Ritchie apparently has some Mexican heritage. I didn't know
(10:59):
she was actually adopted by Lino Ritchie. This one blew
my fucking mind, by the way, But Hul Cogan, Hulk
Cogan the wrestler is actually has some Panamanian in him.
Allegedly right hul Cogan the wrestler has Panamanian him. This
one was a shock to me. Alexis Vega is a
(11:23):
Colombian by her father. This one shocked me as well
because one of my favorite artists ever, Kid Cuddy, actually
has a father of Mexican heritage.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
So Kid Cutty, big.
Speaker 9 (11:36):
Fan of his cat Vondie, already knew this one. She's
actually born in Mexico. Her parents at Beaver Farm, argent Tina,
I believe they said. And this one right here just
brings joy to my life, and it it further proves
I just think the two of us are are in
fact soulmates. Megan Good she actually is part Puerto Rican
(12:02):
from her her grandmother's side, So you know, I feel
like it's just the universe is speaking to us.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
And I know she listens to the show. Big fan
of the show. Shout out to Megan, you know, I
know you're single. Now give me a call. Let's see
what's going on.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Vana White her her father is from Buonte, Puerto Rico,
which I would have never thought.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Let's see Jordana Brewster from Fast and Furious. She was
born in Panama City to a Brazilian mother, Camery Diaz,
I think we knew this, but her family. I think
her dad comes from Cuba. Frankie Munez Puerto Rican descent.
Dad's Puerto Rican. Oscar de la Janta, who is the designer,
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actually born in the Dominican Republic, and I think he's
part Puerto Rican as well on his dad's side, it
says Sammy Davis Junior, I didn't know this one, Sammy
Davis Junior, I didn't know this one. His mother is
of Cuban descent. Calise the singer Calise Is is part
Puerto Rican. David Blaine, the magician, is actually part Puerto
(13:06):
Rican as well. Swizz Beats the producer, uh, part Puerto Rican.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Let's see what else.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
Scott Fabulous, the rapper also half he's half Dominican. Didn't
know that before. Iva Leroue, I'm not really sure who
that is, but she has some Puerto Rican and her
apparently Lana Paria is the daughter of a Puerto Rican
baseball player.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
Reggie Jackson, the Yankees great is half Puerto Rican. Puerto Ricans, listen,
it's I know it's a.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Latin Heritage month, but you'a already know I'm a very
proud Puerto Rican and I can't help make us into
a competition and we get a lot of them check
marks in on our column.
Speaker 8 (13:46):
I just want to throw that out there, like no
shapes abls, but you know we are here representing. Let's
see Ryan Goussmann, who is from Texas born to a
Mexican father. Dave Navarro, who is the guitarist of Jane's Addiction,
also hosts that tattoo show.
Speaker 13 (14:03):
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Speaker 8 (14:03):
What the hell it's called?
Speaker 9 (14:05):
Is it Master of Ink or something like that. He
is of Mexican parents Mexican descent. David Archiletta, the former
American idol. He is from Hondas. I think his family
is from Trina. Okay, half Dominican.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
Apparently I'm gonna skip through a few of these over
here because some of them are getting obscure.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Victoria Justice is uh, lot is Puerto Rican. Actually mom
is Puerto Rican. Let's see who else I recognize on here.
They give me a lot of damn names. I don't
know how long this damn this was.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Let's see Linda Perry. Okay, I didn't realize Linda Perry
was Brazilian. Okay, let's see. I think that's it. That's
the that's the entire list. I hope this was informative
for you. Listen.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
This isn't gonna be life changing for it, but I
just think it's really interesting when you find out, you know,
some people share a certain lineage.
Speaker 8 (15:01):
I think it's also interesting that a lot of these people,
particularly of.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
A certain generation, have never spoke about their latinus or
acknowledged it, right, particularly when you look in the side
of like even like hip hop and rap like somebody
like Fabulous or Swiss Beats, both iconic in the world
of hip hop, and we never hear them acknowledge the
latin side of themselves or kid cutting, And I think
it kind of speaks to like the idea of sort
(15:26):
of latinus from that generation not being this cool thing,
and how that might have taken away your credibility in
the world of something like hip hop. So I think
it's a really, I don't know, just interesting kind of
conversation that this is kind of how much things have changed.
I guess I should say, right, because now it's like
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everyone wants to celebrate it, or even actresses like some
of like Cameron Diaz or all these people like you
never really heard them talking some like Cameron Diaz like that.
All these people you never really heard them talking about
it before. So I think it's a interesting kind of
change of times that we're in right now. All right,
So that was a little a little kind of you know,
some fun we're having with They're gonna going in and
(16:08):
out of some serious stuff, some fun. So with that said,
let's turn it over to some of the guests I
have on today's show sharing some interesting Latin history that
that they wanted to share. I kind of left it
up to them. Storytime Guy Matthew Torres and Antonio Million,
and I'll also be hopping in there with some uh
some I think important information in regards to Puerto Rica history.
But I also think just like the history of relationships
(16:29):
between the US and our community. So we'll do all
that in our hint this segment, But first to take
a quick break and then we'll be right back.
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Speaker 13 (19:11):
All.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Right, so it's only appropriate if we are telling Latin
history that you did not know that. We have somebody
who goes by the name the story Time Guy. My
new mattew Torre is always good to see you, brother.
Speaker 15 (19:23):
I'm gonna see too.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Man, it's exciting to be here, Yes, exactly, Latin hair,
it's fun. I'm so excited for man history of everything.
So yes, Berry, when you asked me to do this,
I'm like, yes, absolutely anything.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, Man, right up your lane. So I mean, let
like put me onto this. So like we're not just
some people you know listening. Note, I don't know any
of this stuff really ahead of time. I know a
little bit of what you're gonna talk about, So you're
gonna putting me onto something I have no idea about.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
So so what do you got for us today? What's
the piece of Latin history that people may not know
that you wanted to share. Yeah, so I want to
talk about the history of Batman or Zoro of how
all of that happened. Right, So, if Rose you don't know,
Batman one of the best superiors of all time. He's
actually based off of the Fox, famous folk tale character
(20:08):
by Johnson McCauley, now Dustin McCauley. We'll go a little
into him. But he was the writer of Zorro right
now and is not the best book, but he was
popular enough that Walt Disney really really enjoyed it, and
so he made a TV show and it became one
of the most popular shows at the time, and I
think to his death he regarded it as his favorite
(20:30):
live action thing he's ever done. He was like a
huge like Zoro Stan and he loves So that's the
kind of world that Batman was based. And if you
watch every single Batman movie that shows his origin of
his parents dying, the movie that Batman saw the last
movie he saw when his parents died. So there's only
one exception to that. It's the Batman begins as the
(20:52):
only exception. And even on the Wall they mentioned Zo,
but every Batman movie Zack Snyder's everything when they're watching
a movie as a callback to Zorto being the inspiration
for Batman. Right, So Zdo is Where's all Black, has
a black horse. He fights people. A lot of people
think he on his sword. He has a whip and
a gun that he uses fairly off it. He was
(21:16):
the first American superher with a secret identity. He was
the he was the penultimate original I have a secret identity,
and that's what he did. And he he would fight
crime and help indigenous people and the mestisos and Latinos
from the Spanish rule. Yeah, and that was his alt
and other than that though, when he was done, uh,
(21:36):
the Don Diego de la Vega, that was his like
ultimate danity. Everyone thought he was like a dandie boy.
That was like a huge part of his identity. That
like when someone walked over like there's a there's a
scene in the Disney Plus TV show of THEO Walt
Disney Show where the sheriff was like accusing everyone of
being and Don Diego's like, well, you haven't accused me yet,
and he's like, why would I accuse you? Man, He's like,
(21:58):
because you're accusing everyone, I couldn't store And he's like,
could you pick up that sword? Let me see when
he's like holding it like like oh, uncomfortably and he's
like you can get on a horse and he's like yeah,
and he's like tries to get a horse, and Kenn
He's like, you can't be zor like you can't even
ride a horse, you can hold a sword, like Sodo's
the greatest swordsman and the greatest horseback rider. And that's
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part of the identity and that really fits into how
Bruce Wwayne and Batman codes this with each other, you know, right.
So and once we know all that, Johnson McCully will
never has never outred stated he's dead now, but he
never outrested where he got the idea from Zoro from.
So it's all speculation, sure, but we've gotten to appointment
that we are ninety nine point nine percent sure where
(22:42):
the speculation where he's where it eventually came from.
Speaker 13 (22:44):
Right.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
So, Johnson McCully himself was a terrible person, as most
not early nineteen hundred riders, American riders often are. They're
they're drunks or their abusers or you know, he got
off on like a rape case. Like he was an awful,
awful person. Yeah, and he was racist and sexist. So
when he heard this legend of Joaquim Morietta from his grandpa,
his grandpa grew up in California where this legend started.
(23:06):
His grandpa told him the story and he was like, oh,
I really liked that story. So he wanted to tell
this character, but he didn't want it to be an
indigenous person menesthiesils right, So he changed the identity of
Joaquim Murrietta. And I'll get to him in a second too.
So Zoto is ambiguously Latino. We know that his father
is from Spain, but they never ever ever mentioned and
(23:28):
bring up or talk about the mother. And so a
lot of people like myself, I've read a lot of
Zoto and i'll you know, learn the history of it.
It's like he has an almost unhealthy obsession with protecting
indigenous people and there's no reason for it. There's no
ever reason given. He's just he always predicts indigenous people
and with messisos and everything at the time with Spaniards,
(23:48):
especially Spanish men. The assumption is that his wife or
his mother was probably the you know, an indigenous woman,
that his father was a Spaniard soldier who was a
very famous one, married an indigenous woman. She died, the
sun came out Insti solsen Carol the legacy, So that's
what we assume happened.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Right.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
So going back before that, we have Joaquim Murieta, the
original the og, the guy that inspired Dodo, who inspired Batman. Right,
Joaquim Mariieta was a simple man. We don't know much
about him, but we do know that he did exist,
that he was very very famous. He was the most
famous outlaw in California, one of the most famous outlaws
in the entire wild West, because this man killed a
(24:28):
lot of white people, specifically white people. What happened was
is that Jaquim Marietta, he was a regular farmer living
in California, right and during manifest Destiny, when all the
white Americans came, they're like, hey, we own this land. Now,
They're like, oh, we already lived here. We can't just
like claim this land that has been ours for generations. Well,
(24:49):
one day, when Joaquim Marietta was gone, these two races,
I'm assuming racist. I don't know, but I'm assuming Grace's
white dudes went after his wife who was at home
and they killed her. So then Joaquin comes home and
they shoot him, but he lived through it. So his
wife is dead, his land is gone. He almost little
left for dead. So he runs to his brother for help.
He gets to his brother the city where his brother
(25:12):
was living, and his brother is literally about to get
hung by the neck. His brother got into a fight
with some racist white dudes and the sheriff, who is white,
took their side, and so he unlawfully was hung by
the neck and killed. So you have Wayquin what he
had to have his wife gone, his land gone, his
job's gone, his brother's gone. He has nothing and no
(25:34):
one else. So what does he do? Turns to a
life of Graham turns into an outlaw, and he's like,
I'm going to get all these racist white tuos out
of my state. This is my country, this is my
home land. They've done nothing, they're gone, and so he
proceeds to go after them. He was one of the
first outlaws that specifically targeted them for the races, like, hey,
we know this land.
Speaker 15 (25:52):
They don't.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
He's Mestisos and so he is indigenous and he knows
the land enough, but he's able to use it to
his advantage. The fool crimes. And it wasn't just him
running and shooting.
Speaker 15 (26:02):
A bunch of people.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
He was actually smart in that he would pretend and
put on fake accents because these Mastisos and he was
passing enough that he could pretend to be white, and
he would go and hang out with like the KKK
and the you know, the racist white people, and they
would never know. And he would also put on fake
accents of being indigenous, so no one knew where he
was or how to find him. And he eventually got
so popular that he started a crime I guess a
(26:25):
crime ring called like I think it was the four
or five Joaquins, because they were all named Joaquin, or
in the very least, they chose to all be named Joaquin.
So he had a bunch of people and that eventually
spread to a whole They had a whole gang of
people who were like, yeah, let's take back our lives.
Eventually he got so popular that they're like, hey, anyone
finds him, you need to kill him because he's getting
out of control because he was never being caught. And
(26:49):
there's some there is so like there's not much information
on him and why he did what he did other
than that he wanted them out. But there's some instances
where he found Asian people shows to not go after
them where he like he saw the agents in the
Chinese and California's like, hey, you're not this is not
our battle, Like this is like it was implied that
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he didn't necessarily because he Bolso viewed them as here,
but he viewed them less as antagonistic than he did
so in those instances, he really didn't do anything. The
same with Africa Maryan, He's like, look, you guys didn't.
This is not our fight. I'm not gonna go after you,
but don't bother me kind of right. And eventually what
happened to Joaquin is that he someone supposedly found him.
They cornered him and cut off his head. Now and
(27:32):
so so they carry around a jar with his head
and it got lost and they found it, and there's
a there's a Joaquin's head in the chart. The problem
is is that if you go back to the original incident,
as was reported, the person who did it said, I
found a guy who was an outlaw named Joaquin, so
I killed him. No one knows if that's actually Joaquin
what he had done. They just it was a guy
(27:54):
named Joaquin, which to me, I have to remind people
if you don't know like Latino named that's like going
into like like Texas. I mean, like I'm gonna kill
like I'm looking for a guy named one. Okay, good
good luck, I don't Yeah, you'll find you'll find a
guy named one. Is it the one you're looking for? Probably?
But as so, and then after that, after he was
(28:15):
declared dead and they got the bounty, we never saw
him again. He could be like, well, yeah, we never
saw because I killed him, or equally likely, he bounced.
I mean he was like, hey, I do what I
have to do. People think I'm dead. They don't know
what I look like. So he lived, you know, he
dipped out, and so that's the whole. So uh Johnson McCully,
who created all Red, all of that story, and he's like, god,
(28:36):
I love this, like this outlaw in California. He wants
to set it, have it take place in Los Angeles
and really like build up this California mythos wild West
because really at the time that wasn't something that anyone
was doing, which is why he really grew in California
and Los Angeles. Because Zoto is from Los Angeles. He's
not like, oh mad, no place like he is a
Los Angeles superhero and an old school too, you know.
(28:59):
So it's me. It's like, we have all these things
and he created this. He changed a few things around
because he was like, well, at the one I don't
want those guy like murdering white people. I'm not gonna
write about that because he himself was kind of racist.
But he's like, but I'll take this idea of this
outlaw who has these multiple identities and multiple things and
really just goes for it. So I just want to
share that you guys. To me, I'm like, that is
the coolest thing of having this Latino outlaw that. I mean,
(29:23):
he didn't know he would be the inspiration indirectly for
one of the coolest superheroes ever. He was just being
smart about things. He was being an out at His
gun skill was never brought up, like he shot a
few people whatever. You know, it's like because you often
hear cowboys, Oh he could shoot this joking was never
about that. It was about tricking people, about outsmarting people,
about constantly putting them in robbing people. Because he would
(29:45):
never rob people at gunpoint. He would trick them. He'd
be like, oh, I'm here to get this, and he
would put on dozens of fake acts and so much
the point no one knew who he was because they
didn't know if it was someone else pretating to be him,
if it was actually him. He would hire people, regular
farmers and be like, hey, go say names and go
like do this, and they would do it, and he'd
pay them and then they're like, oh, wa, King's an
eighty year old man, Like is.
Speaker 9 (30:09):
So to me?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
It's like, that's what I love about our American folk
tale history is that American history, especially Latin American history,
it's often seen as outside of the United States, we
never get Latin American history in the United States. And
often when it comes to these big things like we
have cowboys. Everybody loves cowboys and Antioakley and you.
Speaker 15 (30:26):
Know Billy M.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
Kidd and you know Buffalo Bill, all these things, but
we never really see cowboys outside of like white people
because narratives. You know, a lot of these people told
their own stories. So for me, it's to hear the
sa se jaquinoetas to go like, hey, we were here,
We've been here. This is the story of our people.
And Latinos were cowboys for the original cowboys, we're the vocanos,
(30:48):
the caballeros, you know. So to me, it's this really
interesting story of our history. And at the same time,
it's like it reminds you that just because our stories
aren't always told, doesn't mean we're not there. You know,
right parts of the Caribbean. Where's spirits of the Caribbean
taking place in the Caribbean, right right? How many Latino
pirates do you see in those movies. How many pirates
see yeah, Latino piratecy hear about you? Does is maga?
Speaker 15 (31:11):
How can there be a whole.
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Area of Caribbean along Florida, along the Caribbean and Puerto
Rico and and there's no, there's no Latinos. They're like right, right, right, No,
it's it's it is interesting.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
It's because we often think the California's history starts like
or Texas even starts when it becomes a part of
the United States, But we forget there's a whole like
that that was its own thing. There were people living
there prior to all of this, right, And there's there's
so many different stories that are left untold.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
And even I had no idea that Zoro was the
inspiration for Batman. That that's a new information to to me.
So let me ask you.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I haven't seen my only my only sort of relationship
with Zoro is the movie with Antonio Bendaraz, which I
saw when I was a kid when it first came out.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
And there's a car to the version of it, right
that preceded it.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Yeah, So, how so this whole thing is like somewhat
dark for like a cartoon kind of right, So what
is the cartoon version of it, Like, uh, the cartoon version, I.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Couldn't tell you much about that, but I can tell
you about the history of Zoro in film. Yeah, because
he's public domain. He has been adapted several times. He
has been there have been god, there's like over thirty
or forty films and shows about Zodol. But in every
single instance he's been played by a white guy. Right,
So it's so it's one of those weird things. And currently,
(32:34):
the way it happened as Johnson mccoley gave his publisher
the rights, well, even after the rights dissipated because of
copyright and public domain lost the authorship of the of
the copyright, would sue people who try to do Zoro
because he's like, oh, no, I have Zoro Productions, so
therefore I own Zora. And they're like, well, he's public domain.
They're like, oh, but the only the first book is
(32:55):
public domain. You have to wait three years for the
other book. And if you use something outside of that
first book, that's that breaks type of right. So I'm
gonna sue you. So he himself is the guy who's
in charge of the Zora copyrights is a terrible terrible
scum by Perdson, and he's still working. He's produced all
those Zora films. He pretty much goes up things, I'll
sue you, or you make me a producer on your film.
He worked on Antonio Bands one. He's working on the
(33:17):
new one with Will marrad Ramas, which I don't know
if that'll ever get made. Yeah, but they're currently you know,
with Will my brother Lama Valdamas. They're trying to do
a modern Zoro and let's see about that. But yeah,
so me, it's like, it's it's really interesting that our
history or character of this of our own fair you
(33:39):
know folk tale character is still to this day being
held in a tight grip.
Speaker 11 (33:43):
You know.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
It's like, yeah, we can eat the lots of this
farm and he's still his legacy is still being Yeah. No,
it's fast.
Speaker 9 (33:49):
I mean even even James Bond is like based off
of a Dominican man, you know what I mean, if
I'm not mistaken from uh, Chris Rebas when I had
him on the show, was telling me about it, and
I had no idea about that, right, So it's just
it is like this whitewashing of our history that happened
and nobody kind of speaks about it, you know. So
this is fascinating to know that something as big as
(34:10):
Batman is based off of a real Latin figure that
was then adapted into you know, the idea of Zoro
and then adapted into into Batman. So man, you put
me onto some some game today, bro, Thank you and
thank yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:23):
And like I said, every movie always plays for you know,
pas reference tribute to this thing that comic books do
as well. If you watch the Harley Quinn Poison Avy Show,
I said, Jack Nunders the Timber. Every single movie pays
homage to Zoro. That is the movie. That's why even
in universe, Bruce Wayne has stated one of his favorite
(34:44):
movies is the original nineteen twenty something or nineteen thirty
character Zorro because that's who he looks up to in
real life. So for all the people that love Batman
and you're Latino and you want a little bit and
it's just remind yourself that Bruce Wayne one of the
people that he looks up to ISO. I think that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 12 (35:01):
Now.
Speaker 9 (35:01):
That's that gives me some Easter eggs to now go
back and rewatch some of those those movies and see
it from a different ledsmit, I appreciate it, dude. Well listen,
ber I appreciate you contributing to the episode and sharing
that story. You put me onto something I didn't know.
Where can people follow you? You do all kinds of
deep dives into Latin history and folklore and things like that.
So if they want to check out more, where can
they follow you?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Yeah, I'm at the storytime Guy.
Speaker 15 (35:23):
What words the story time Guy?
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:25):
You can find on Instagram TikTok. I do a few
things on YouTube, do a little flowing your deep thumbs,
especially into Aztec mythology. So yeah, I feel like asthik mythology,
Latin American folk tales. I do folktales from around the
world too, especially like focusing on African American folk tales
as well. You know, phone tales that just start talking.
We always I don't know how many reboots and remakes
of Cinderella and so on. We know we don't have
(35:46):
to turn those characters. We got our own stories to tell,
We got amazine story stell. We just gotta tell them.
So if you like that kind of stuff, you like Corror,
I'm the guy for you. You're gonna have a great time.
Beautiful my bro Well listen. Always good catching up with you.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
I'm sure I'll see you soon for a regular episode,
but it was good to have you on here as
we kick off Latin Heritage Month sharing some Latin history
that people didn't know.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
Thank you more, you have a nice day.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Man. Big shot to my guy Matthew Torre's aka the
Storytime Guy for hopping on and giving us that information
that had no idea about. I think it's a fun
piece of information. It's like some good cocktail. Knowledge to
have is that they call it cocktail.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
I don't know if you're sitting at the dinner table,
and this is a fun little fact you can bring
up to your family or to your kids right when
they're watching Batman, let them know the inspiration was actually
a Latino. I think that's a beautiful thing. Now moving
on to something a little more serious.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
This one is like political history, and I think just
cultural history that's a bit dark.
Speaker 8 (36:40):
I want to talk about Pedro.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
I'll be so compos right and I would sort of
describe him as like the Puerto Rican Malcolm X almost right.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
He was that for us.
Speaker 9 (36:50):
He was a part of the independence movement for Puerto Rico,
known by many as El Maetro, he was one of
the most prominent Puerto Rican political figures of the twentieth century,
a national hero who sacrificed his life for the freedom
of his country. And this is bits and pieces from
an article that I pulled on the aluc websites, and
(37:14):
they had a really cool, kind of comprehensive sort of
timeline of his life. I also put a few different
things they had mentioned. I built off it a little bit,
but I'll be so. Graduated from Harvard Law in nineteen
twenty one while simultaneously studying literature, philosophy, chemical engineering, and
military science at Harvard College. He was fluent in six
(37:36):
modern and two classical languages, English, Spanish, French, German, Portuguese, Italian, Latin,
Ancient Greek. So, you know, very smart, smart kind of guy.
And we're gonna kind of get into a bit of
what he did and some of the fight that he
sort of had where he was fighting for the independence
(37:57):
of Puerto Rico and also exposing some atrocities that were happening.
But I do want to talk about real quick some
of his accolades, as were kind of mentioning here because
at the time that he was going to Harvard Law,
there was a lot of racism happening, and albiso coppos
by many sort of you know, conversations or by many accounts,
(38:21):
I should say, it was an Afro Latino, right, So
not only Puerto Rican, but he's also a darker skinned man,
a black man at the end of the day, right,
and he is somebody who obviously is defining the odds
going to something as prestigious as Harvard Law, particularly in
the time that he was there. I mean, upon his
(38:41):
graduation from law school, he was recruited for several prestigious positions,
including law clerkship to the US Supreme Court, a diplomatic
post with the US State Department, the Regional Vice Presidency
Caribbean Region of the US Agricultural Syndicate, and a tenured
faculty appointment to the University of Puerto Rico. Right, A
lot of options he had, and his main thing was
(39:03):
to fight for the people of Puerto Rico. But what
I want to sort of paint a timeline is we're
in the nineteen twenties here, right. So June twenty third,
nineteen twenty one, he graduates from Harvard Law, but without
his law diploma. Right, so, he had been the victim
of racial discrimination by one of his professors, and the
professor actually delayed Albiso Compos's third year final exams for
(39:26):
his courses in Evidence in Corporations. Albiso was about to
graduate with the highest grade point average in his entire
law school class, highest grade point average in his entire
law school class. As such, he was scheduled to give
the valedictory speech during the graduation ceremonies. His professor actually
delayed his exam so he could not complete his work
(39:48):
and avoided the quote embarrassment of a Puerto Rican law valedictorian.
So that shows you the time period of the things
that this man was working against and pushing back against.
Right now, when it comes to his actual, you know,
work with Puerto Rico and what he was fighting for,
you know, he was instrumental in winning an island wide
sugar cane strike and actually was part of the reason
(40:11):
that a just atrocity was exposed. Right there was a
secret medical experiment happening that was actually sponsored by the
Rockefeller Institute, and they were experimenting on Puerto Ricans and
Albiso compos was one of the people who helped expose this.
Speaker 16 (40:24):
Right.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
So this story, which is really dark and just sort
of kind of shows you where we were and a
lot of the dark history between America and the United
States and the powers that be in general, and a
lot of the racism that happens towards Puerto Ricans and
has sort of been buried in the laws. In nineteen thirties,
(40:45):
you had doctor Cornelius Rhodes going to Puerto Rico, to quote,
working in public health to alleviate disease. And this is
a quote from author Daniel Immerwar who wrote a book
about this, But he says he immediately started running all
kinds of experiments that it's almost impossible to imagine him
doing on the mainland, certainly not on white patients. He
(41:06):
refused to treat some of his patients just to see
what would happen with them. In other patients, he actually
tried to induce disease in them. He described them to
his colleagues as experimental animals. So he's talking about Puerto
Rican people, this white doctor and describing them as experimental animals.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Right now.
Speaker 9 (41:25):
Rhodes went on to write a letter to a colleague
in Boston, saying that while the place is quote beautiful,
Puerto Ricans are quote beyond doubt the dirtiest, laziest, most degenerate,
and deevish race of men ever inhabiting this sphere. It
makes you sick to inhabit the same island with them.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Now.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
Ironically, he went on to serve as the director of
Memorial Hospital for Cancer Research in New York and as
the first director of Sloane Kettering Institute, becoming the director
of the combined Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, which is
still around to this day. For his contributions to cancer research,
Rhodes was actually featured on the cover of the June
(42:05):
twenty seventh, nineteen forty nine issue of Time magazine under
the title cancer Fighter. Right, and this is somebody who
was running experiments on other human beings as if they
were lab animals just because they were brown.
Speaker 8 (42:21):
Essentially right, and just truly.
Speaker 9 (42:26):
Truly just disgusting stuff when you think about it, right,
And the things that are said and that were eventually
exposed in this letter and of these so compost help
expose this stuff. Man, It's just like it shows you
the ideology that exists through when a lot of the
laws that affect Puerto Ricans till this day were put
in place. Right, so during this time period when you
(42:47):
had the laws that are still abided by essentially that
leave Puerto Rico as a colony, and the rights that
there's the citizens of Puerto Rico do and don't have.
You know, a lot of these laws were created by
people who shared in the same mindset as this person,
doctor Cornelis Roades, who went on to be celebrated as
a hero even with this sort of dark history. Now
(43:09):
moving back to Elbiso compos he developed the theory of
non collaboration with the colonial structures. Right, so he talks
about boycotting elections and military service. He soon became a
target of the colonial forces talking about America. Here was
arrested and charged with seditious conspiracy. From the mid thirties
to the early sixties, Pagro Abisilcampos would be in and
(43:31):
out of US prisons for twenty five years. During his incarceration,
he repeatedly charged that he was a target of human
radiation experiments. His skin severely swollen and cracking, he covered
himself with wet towels. Jailers thought he was crazy, But
today there is proof that radiation experiments did take place.
And to back that up, I pulled a tidbit from
(43:54):
nineteen ninety four, under the administration of ex President Bill Clinton,
the United States Department of Energy disclosed that human radiation
experiments had been conducted without consent on prisoners in Puerto
Rico during the nineteen fifties and seventies. Right, So again,
there is a history here of the powers that be
(44:15):
viewing Puerto Ricans as less than human. And those are
the same people who have been in charge of the
fate of this island and its citizens, you know, since
since it became a colony of the United States. It's
kind of dark, right, kind of disgusting, and it's sad
that these are the things that are not spoken about enough.
And when I have critiques of the United States and
(44:38):
am outspoken about things, it's with the knowledge that the
US has committed so many different atrocities. It's not a
perfect place. The powers that be are by no means perfect.
They've supported racist practices and disgusting and inhumane, you know,
practices at the end of the day, and we need
to hold them accountable, and if we don't, who to
(45:00):
stop them from doing things like this in the future.
Speaker 13 (45:02):
Right.
Speaker 9 (45:03):
That's why it's incredible to me when people claim it's
anti patriotic to critique the government when they've proven time
and time again they're not perfect, they don't always have
the people's best interest in mind, and if we aren't
holding them accountable or trying to it, it really just
opens the door for far more atrocities to happen.
Speaker 8 (45:24):
Now, back to our Biaso compos his fight for.
Speaker 9 (45:27):
Puerto Rican independence quote, the good people of the US
are not to be blamed for the shameless conduct of
certain government officials. He argued this in court and at
the podium, that the US occupation of Puerto Rico was illegal.
His legal argument was based on the question of the
US being awarded proprietary rights over Puerto Rico by virtue
(45:47):
of the Paris Peace Treaty of eighteen ninety eight. The
island was handed over by Spain, along with Cuba and
the Philippines as spoils of the war to the US.
He claimed that the treaty was nullified by the fact
that Spain had previously granted autonomy to Puerto Rico in
eighteen ninety seven. By the time of the treaty, Puerto
Rico had its own coin, its own posted stamps, mail
(46:07):
and custom service, and was therefore a sovereign, independent nation
under international law. Spain, he claimed, had no right to
give away another sovereign nation. Furthermore, Puerto Rico, per se,
had never participated at the treaty, nor even been consulted.
His themation was to the effect that this country's consent
to its association to the US, never having been asked
(46:28):
nor conceded, the acquisition affected by the US under said
treaty is a violation of international law. Now, he never
accepted the United States' rights to govern Puerto Rico. He
did reach that quote. If they won't listen to legal reason,
we must take up arms against the invaders end quote.
Speaker 8 (46:45):
Now.
Speaker 9 (46:45):
Another interesting piece of information is both Cuba and the Philippines,
where the Spanish American War was fought, were granted their independence.
Only Puerto Rico, where there was no major fighting, is
still controlled by the United States till this day. Of course,
In nineteen fifty, I'll be so composed suffered a stroke
in prison and was transferred to San Juan's Presbyterian Hospital
under police guard. On November fifteenth, nineteen sixty four, on
(47:09):
the brink of death, Pedro bis So Compos was pardoned
by Governor Luis Munos Marim. He died April twenty first,
nineteen sixty five. More than seventy five thousand Puerto Ricans
were part of a procession that accompanied his body for
the burial in Old San Juan Cemetery. So I just
wanted to bring this story. And obviously, if you're Puerto Rican,
(47:32):
this hits really close to home. If you're not, I
think that you can relate in a bit of the struggles,
and I think you can share in probably some of
the anger and the validation of knowing that this country
has done a lot of evil things to people of color,
and much of it is under reported, not reported at all. Right,
(47:54):
Like I didn't learn about Pedro bis So Compos until
fairly recently. I feel, like you know, later in my life,
wasn't something that was spoken about. We don't talk about
this shit in textbooks, you know. And the only reason
that his his memory, his story, and these these atrocities
are spoken about is people like myself and people that
(48:16):
I've read from who are refusing to allow our history
to die. And that's why it's important to share things
like this and for us to be aware of it
and to also, you know, have that information that when
people wonder why we have a certain mistrust of our
government or this country as people of color, specifically as Latinos,
(48:37):
we can point to stories like this one that proved
that this place was never designed for people like us. Right,
we reviewed as lesser than and they've done countless things
to continue to not only make us feel that way,
but to put into practice ways that they can legally
treat us that way, as lesser than and not human.
And when you see the letters like from someone from
(48:59):
the doctor Corneati's roads writing so freely things like this,
and uh, somebody that then gets celebrated as a you know,
a hero in medicine, it's just kind.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
Of shows you that. And these these powerful people of.
Speaker 9 (49:13):
Those time periods when a lot of these laws and
ideas were being put into place, like what they really
thought of of people who look.
Speaker 8 (49:21):
Like you and I, and it wasn't something positive.
Speaker 9 (49:23):
And someone like pagrobis so compos you know that he
wasn't successful in his fight for independence, for Puerto Rico.
Speaker 8 (49:29):
You know, he gave his life for this. You know,
he was with somebody who.
Speaker 9 (49:34):
You know, made it his life's mission, his life's work,
and and uh, and I think that's that's something to
be celebrated at in the day. Not a lot of
people would literally give their life for any particular cause,
let alone the cause of an entire sort of nation
of people. And I just think it's it's needs to
be celebrated and talked about again, like he's our our
(49:55):
Malcolm X's essentially right, and his story needs to be
kept alive because what it means for you know, Porcans,
but I think Latinos as a whole in in our
constant fight for quality and what's right. At the end
of the day, Now, that was a bit heavy, so
we're gonna post things out on a bit of a
lighter note with my guy Antonio Million. We'll talk about
some some aliens, so we'll get into that. But I
(50:18):
think now it's a good time take a quick break,
and then we'll be right back.
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Speaker 13 (52:49):
So one of my favorite creators that is just I
think a compelling storyteller. It always puts me onto history
that I'm not even keen. You know too, when it
comes to our culture is my guy and so so
first and foremost my dude. Welcome back, to the show.
Speaker 15 (53:04):
Thank you man, thank you for having me. As always,
it's always a pleasure coming on here to be a guess.
Speaker 8 (53:10):
Yeah, we're dude, We're we're We're in the midst of
we're kicking off.
Speaker 13 (53:14):
This is my first episode for Latin History Month, LATINX
History Month, Latin History Month. However, you know, anybody wants
to identify it as and I thought the best way
to do it was to have some of you guys
who really are you know, helping tell our stories, to
come on and tell some Latin history that people may
not know. So I'm gonna kind of turn the reins
(53:36):
over to you. I want to know what you kind
of you know, picked for us for today to kind
of put people onto some history they may not be
keen to.
Speaker 15 (53:43):
Absolutely, So, you've heard of War of the World, right,
Like back in nineteen thirties, Eighth Street, Well, he came
up with this concept called War of the World, and
it spooked a lot of people. He went on the
radio and he was basically like alluding to the fact
that aliens were invading New Jersey. They were they were
on their way to New York, and it instilled mass panic.
You're familiar with that right.
Speaker 8 (54:04):
Yeah, absolutely, people weren't sure.
Speaker 13 (54:06):
They thought it was a real news cast even though
it was like supposed to just be like an entertainment show.
Speaker 15 (54:11):
Absolutely, so people thought, like you said it was, they
thought it was a real newscast, but it was really
just an entertainment radio program. But so people don't talk
about how often that happened after, specifically in Latin America,
specifically in South America. So in Chile they did one
(54:31):
where it instilled mass panic to the point where somebody
had a heart attack and died. So that's something that
like no one talks about. But the biggest one was
in Ecuador. So the guy who started it, he was
a ra He worked for Radio Quito in the capitol
of Ecuador, and he got the idea for h for
(54:51):
this world of world's type of thing to make it
to put in an Ecuadorian context. In nineteen forty four,
he made a drama and basically he included real people.
So he included a very well known orchestra person. So
(55:13):
in the beginning he played the orchestra music, and then
he cut the orchestra music off and he started talking
like he was a news broadcaster. Basically staying saying that like,
you know, hey, they're these green men that are in
this small town in Ecuador. They are you know, they're coming.
We don't know what to do. People started freaking out
(55:34):
so much sohow that it got to the president's office
in Ecuador and he dispatched the military to this small town.
The guy who did this, his name was Corge Rabananeira,
and he was nineteen at the time. So think about
like where we were when we were nineteen and like
all the cries that we were doing we were in nineteen.
(55:55):
So and it took place, and he took place on
a Saturday night. He worked for basically the local radio station.
It was a Saturday night where people would be home
and what they would be normally listening to music, and
he played the music for long enough so that people
would get comfortable and they would be like, oh, this
is this is really you know, peaceful music whatever, and
(56:17):
then he cut it and then he was like, hey,
there are these green aliens and they're coming towards the capitol.
He even stated that there was a cylindrical object that
had crashed in this small little town that these aliens
were coming from. He even said that the well known
musician Leonardo Paiez that he included was fried by green
(56:42):
bolts from one of these aliens. So it wasn't It
wasn't really like if let's say, for example, like you know,
I got on the radio, you got on the radio
and you were like, Yo, an alien just crashed in
Atlanta and it killed GEEZI. People would be like, yo,
that's you know what I mean? Right, So the equivalent,
(57:03):
it's equivalent to that. The guy as of twenty fourteen,
the guy Jorge Ravanera, he is actually he was still
alive in twenty fourteen. I wasn't able to find anything
about him recently. I don't know. He was eighty three
years old and basically like he was like his family
started calling him asking if he was okay, and he
(57:26):
was like, oh no, no, it's just a joke. But
the word had gotten out so far that it became
more than just a joke. There were people running around
in the streets, there were police heading towards this small town,
Coto Carlo, police military, it's still mass panic. Even his
(57:46):
mother came to get him from the radio. Fiction. So yeah,
this is this is a this is like a history
fact that like not a lot of people know about,
especially when it comes to like the recent knew that
there might be aliens are out out there, or there
are aliens out there, and Mexico recently just released some
(58:07):
imagery of what we believed to be are aliens. So
I thought that was a cool tie in to like,
what's kind of what's going on now? Yeah, well it's
funny a yeah.
Speaker 13 (58:18):
In Latin America in general, you have always had a
lot of UFO sightings, right and reported UFO sightings, and
even back to the times of like the Mayans or
the Aztecs, you know, there's a lot of UFO stories
about you know, possibly aliens helping them build these pyramids
and all these things, right, so it's very much tied
into our culture. And then yet you have the dude
(58:41):
in Mexico City presenting in front of Congress recently from
the Mexican Congress with these alleged alien corpuses. But actually,
what came to my mind beyond like the literal alien
stuff is, uh, this is kind of also our modern
media to a degree, right when it comes to politics
and the way that it's kind of they're just using
(59:03):
the same tactics, but they're not filling you in on
the tact that it's a joke at at any point, right,
and something like January six is not to make it political,
but it's something like January sixth and something very similar,
except people end up going to fucking jail over the
lie that was being told that they essentially.
Speaker 15 (59:22):
And even like with the whole alien thing, with the
guy presenting before our Congress in the US, it's like,
you know, how much of this is real? And how
much is it that the military saying, Hey, we want
more money to make more advanced ship you know what
I mean?
Speaker 8 (59:34):
Right?
Speaker 15 (59:36):
That's actually great.
Speaker 13 (59:36):
I never really I never even thought of that being
like the vantage point as to why now there's like
far more open dialogue or things being declassified or people
coming out and speaking of it.
Speaker 8 (59:50):
That's a great, a great advantage point.
Speaker 13 (59:51):
Yeah, maybe they really just want some more money to
make some some crazier technology rockets and.
Speaker 15 (59:57):
Right right, Yeah, But eventually, whatever happened what happened to
this guy from my understanding, uh, he ended up fleeing
the radio broadcaster end up fleeing to Mexico. He lived
in Mexico for a while. I think they were they
were talking about like pressing charges against him for instilling
mass panic, and he eventually moved back to Quito, back
(01:00:20):
to Ecuador, and I think he lived there. If he
is still alive, he was eighty three and in twenty fourteen,
so you know he would be well in his he
would be like ninety two now. But yeah, you know,
I couldn't find anything about whether or not he was
still a lot, But I just thought it was a
crazy story. It went a lot deeper than what happened
(01:00:42):
here in the United States, and it's not something that's
ever really ever talked about.
Speaker 13 (01:00:46):
Right right now that that's a funny little a little
like kind of fact, is that the dude who did
war the world, he was he brought up on charges
or no, because it was it was It wasn't like spontaneous.
Speaker 15 (01:00:58):
I don't think he was. Because I think the whole
the whole idea was for his show was that like, hey, like,
this is a this is a this is a program,
this isn't a news show, this is a thread. So
people just kind of were like, oh, this is different,
so they freaked out.
Speaker 13 (01:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, there's like a genius
to this. I think in like as a creative it
gets my brain thinking a little bit. But it's also
like so much of the modern era that we live
in with TikTok and all these different things where people
are creating these fake things for the sake of capturing reactions,
you know. And and it's interesting that it goes all
(01:01:37):
the way back to what the forties you're talking about, right,
this is this thing man, Yes, that's four man and
a different a different world especially you think about it.
Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
In today's day and age, we have like everything is
so visual, but back then, you know, their television was
the radio, right, you would listen to like a show,
and that would be your entertainment essentially, So you don't
even have like the ability to pick apart the visual
component of it.
Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
You're just listening, uh to it and and your your
ears can be deceived by how authentic it ends up sounding. Right,
There's less there's less of like a barrier to entry
when it comes to making it feel real.
Speaker 15 (01:02:14):
Rights. It's similar to like like you said, the news,
Like you know, you see the news for what it
is and you don't really question it. Yeah, so we
kind of have the same thing going on now visually
that they have going on auditory back then. Like they
didn't question it. They were like, oh shit, there's aliens
in New Jersey, right, you know it's New Jersey, Like
(01:02:36):
why would aliens come to New Jersey.
Speaker 18 (01:02:39):
Hey, we're not gonna be a New Jersey slander on
the show. Okay, but my dude, I always appreciate you
man for hopping out here and being one of the creators.
Speaker 15 (01:02:49):
We're gonna have it on the show today.
Speaker 13 (01:02:52):
I know you're always telling little stories like this one
that you're researching on on everything all Latin culture. So
where can people follow you and keep up to the
other stuff you're doing. Yeah, so TikTok, Instagram, Death not ant.
Speaker 15 (01:03:05):
I'm on Facebook now so death not ant LinkedIn, uh,
Antonio Million, So yeah, you can follow me wherever I
post content on all those platforms.
Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
Perfect. Well, my dude, always get seeing your brother and
we'll have you back on Zoon.
Speaker 15 (01:03:20):
Awesome, man, take care of yourself.
Speaker 9 (01:03:21):
Fine man, So big shout out to my guests today,
the Storytime guy Matthew Torres and my guy Antonio Million
for sharing some stories that they found super interesting Latin history.
Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
You may not have known, h man. I'm I'm excited
to kind of bring this episode to life. I was
doing on it.
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How do we kick off, you know, Latin Heritage Month,
And I thought the best way possible just be throwing
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I think for me, some of the bigger takeaways of
today's show in Latin history, didn't know what I mean
for starters when we talk about the world of entertainment,
and I'm reading that list of people that you might
have known are our Latino come from Latin descent. Some
some were obvious, not too much. I think it tells
the narrative of the fact that like people had to
(01:06:54):
hide the Latinus in order to find success. Right. And
while that's obviously because it's cool to be Latin, now,
I think it's it's I don't know, man, it rubbed.
It obviously rubs me the wrong way, But I think
it's it's why our history has been so buried for
so long, and why it's so important for us to
have ownership over who we are and where we come
from and be unapologetic about it, right, because we can't
(01:07:17):
go back into hiding. We have to celebrate our culture
and where we come from and and make people respect
us as as people and not have to worry that
if we showcase who we truly are, they're they're going to,
you know, not give us the opportunities that we deserve, right.
And I think that's what you probably saw a lot
in the world of entertainment. And and then I think
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even you know, when it comes to our history, right,
we're talking about Latin history. You didn't know Matthew Tory
is a story time guy. Maybe there's a lot of
people who are familiar with this in the in the
world of comic books, but it's the idea that, like Batman,
one of the biggest superheroes known to man, his origins
come from a Latin in folklore, right, And I think
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there's something beautiful about that. I think it also shows
you the whitewashing of Hollywood in general and entertainment in general,
where they made it a white man and that was
the sort of narrative behind it. But you know, I
think those are things to be celebrated, right. So, like
I said this, you know, when we were talking about
(01:08:25):
that story, I was wrapping it up like that's something
like for me, when I have a kid one day
and we're watching something Batman related, I think it's me
dope to be like, hey, do you know the origin
the inspiration for Batman was actually a Latino. And I
just think little things like that are going to help
bring confidence to that next generation. And I think us
as people where we can stand proudly and knowing that
(01:08:46):
like our history is long ingrained in the history of
this country and this world, no matter how much people
try to erase it. You know, we've been making contributions
and continue to make contributions, and you know, there's no
reason for us to be hiding in the shadows anymore.
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dark history of this country and how we have been
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the watch of this government or under the direct orders
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because of the fight that they were putting out there,
you know, for for for brown people, for Latinos as
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