October 9, 2025 • 11 mins
Katie went to Bali on the holidays and had some very interesting observations about how the locals live, the kids are more street smart and don't even get her started on the dogs! Hop on the back of the scooter, we're moving to Bali!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I
A Bad Mom Podcast. We've been talking a lot this
(00:27):
week about school holidays. Technically this term my girls are
first term of year.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Twelve Verde twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, because really it's last term of year eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But no, but they start, don't they pre start this
because then they have because we talked about this. Then
they don't have the technically this time next year, they
they're not really there any done, they're done.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah. And also rach because they've been doing a tape course,
two tape courses, actually courses. Yeah, that finishes at the
end of this year, and then they'll have their qualification
by November this year.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah. Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean it seems like it's nothing that they
want to do in the future. But you know, eight
thousand dollars later expensive.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was just about to say, I'm going to encourage
our girls to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I forgot that it was eight thousand dollars. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I know, but it's still two qualifications under the belt. Yeah,
and you never know if they'll ever like go in
ten years time.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hey got that quol use it?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, Well, Holly said to me the other day, Oh mom,
great news, I've got all my assignments done. Blah blah
blah blah blah. I went, oh, holy, great news. I've
paid a five thousand of the eight thousand we're on track.
(01:53):
Am I a bad mum for wanting the simple life?
Just not too simple? I said. During the holidays, we
went to Bali. It was quite a last minute booking.
Amelia had said to me, I'm really not looking forward
to the school holidays, Like I just feel sad about it.
We're just gonna be at home, You're gonna be at work,
(02:15):
We've got nothing planned. We just kind of had one
of those moments where it was like whether this is
sensible thing to do or not. We need a holiday,
Like I felt like I knew a holiday, So anyway,
booked it went. Now, when I talk about wanting this
simple life, what I realized is like out there, you're
in a third world country. It's all very different to
(02:37):
how it is here. Everything's a lot cheaper, it was
kind of just easy. I was like, Wow, it's so
nice to just be like jumping on the back of
a scooter like it was easy. So they've got an
equivalent over there of uber, which is called grab. You
are literally never more than five minutes away from getting
(02:59):
a grab. You can do a car or a bike.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Rade, Yeah right, I'm not holding on to somebody else
on the back.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Of a five minutes it would take for us to
get into like from the accommodation to like the main
parts of the area that we were in. A car
rate was four dollars on the back of a bike
was a dollar seventy dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Seventy dollars seventy on the back of how like what
was the time difference, like as in twenty five minutes
in a same amount of time on a bike.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Or quicker on a bike. Yeah, they drive like they
are insane. They must be amazing drivers, because we could
not drive like that in that situation. Honestly. There's situations
where they go to turn right and there's like heaps
of bikes coming and they just keep going and I'm like, ah, just.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And you're on the back of that bike with a
complete stranger.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We drive so carefully in this country rate.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You didn't get a chance to do anything else. That's why.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, Yeah, not so careful.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, and then when you're on the back with local
and they know exactly where they're going and what they're
doing and all the rest. Like, it's completely different over there,
isn't it where they Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Just found the ease of life was just so simple.
You want to get Uber Eats, for example, and it's
grab obviously over there. It literally comes within about ten minutes,
prove because half the population's driving those bikes. Yeah, it
comes in like ten minutes. No delivery fee, you know
(04:32):
how here they just drop stuff off outside of your
house and it could be the wrong house and they
don't really care. They've gone. You know, they've done their delivery.
You've been charged. They don't charge you until you physically
take it, so you have to be physically handed whatever
whatever it is that you've born, Yeah, for them to
be able to then charge. I just found the way
(04:54):
of life just felt so simple. And I was like,
as a parent, I feel like we just need a
bit more of that. Yeah, it's stressful here. We've all
got work, we've got stuff going on, we're busy, the
appointments and shit's happening. And I just found it was
just so easy. But there was an experience that we
had which is gonna sound very privileged, but it was
(05:18):
literally because of the cost. It's so cheap. We had
a chef come to the villa age. The chef comes
to the villa, brings all the ingredients, cooks, the dinner,
serves you, The dinner leaves, and then you text them
or WhatsApp them. Everything's done by WhatsApp when you finish,
(05:38):
and they come and clear it all up. Oh rah,
forty dollars. Forty dollars for this privilege.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You should just ask him to move back home with you.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But what happened, and this is where I'm like, wow,
we need to take some tips from this. Because the
guy came Rach, and he had lost his voice, and
I got super paranoid that he was sick and he
was cooking our food.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
He was coughing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Whatsapped the villa manager. Yeah, catoot, and I've gone. Is
the chef sick? I'm a little worried, Rach, talk about efficient.
Next thing I know, chef's leaving. Another chef has come,
chucked away all the food that the guy had prepared,
cleaned the kitchen, brought more ingredients and cooked it all
(06:29):
from scratch. Oh my goodness, and even asked for that.
I was like, oh my god, this is simple life.
Yet look at how efficient they are.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a lot to do, that, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I did a lot of comparing. This particular episode is
not really much about kids, but I did a lot
of comparing of the stress and what we do in
life here, and the expense of everything too, yeah yeah,
and then the simple life over there. But how efficiently
they're doing it, yeah, and how cheap they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, Well we'll never get the cheap part. No, that's
never going to change the efficiency. I don't know if
I mean when you come down to, like you say,
the simple things in life, I think if we're stretching
it back to like parenting, our kids do so much.
I don't know what they do for parenting over there.
They've probably got plenty of help. But I look at
(07:22):
it and go like, at the end of the day,
like you've got this so much on. And I do
believe that the simplicity of life can be adapted, but
it has to come at a cost of other things.
So you have to be willing to let go of
other things that you've created, which is sometimes the messy stuff,
in order to get to the simplicity of it. But
(07:43):
with simplicity comes bear it all and then know what
you want to strip back on.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, when we talk about resilience, when I look at
the kids out there, I'm rich. Don't even get me
started on the dogs. The dogs don't see.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm no good with that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You don't just wander around. I know the dogs, right.
The dogs are allowed free rain, so they can leave
the house without a lead, without even an owner. They
just wander around. They're not straight dogs rage. They're owned,
they've got collars on, they are fed, they're perfectly good.
(08:18):
But you watch these dogs, it's like they're on little adventures.
They don't go near those busy roads. No, dogs couldn't
live like that, like that she escaped from the garden.
She got hit by a car. Like we do too
much for them, These dogs rage. Honestly, it astounded me
how smart these dogs were when I watched them, and
(08:40):
they just would be wandering around doing their own thing,
living their best life. They go nowhere near the road.
They're not stupid. Kids are the same. You watch those
kids on the back of the bikes. You've got little
two year olds hanging on for Koala to the back
of mum or dad. They're not letting go. They don't
have helmets on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Rage.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, I know, because that was well they're back in Australia. Now,
that is where my cousin's daughter, my cousin they that's
where she raised them, was in Bali and so that
was their you know, form of transport was the koala
cub in the middle between middle.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of like obviously mum and dad.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And then by the time Miss Laura was big enough,
then she'd slat on the back and all the photos
would come through and all the US and the videos
and I'd go.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh my god, but these kids aren't falling off.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I know. No, No, I think it's because they've also
got that different smarts about them.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, our kids would street smart.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They're street smart.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They're almost like cultured smart because in their culture that's
what they do. They don't see us as you know,
there wouldn't be anything. I can't imagine that they see
that we do that they go, oh gosh, I really
want to over complicate my life and put more stress
in it and like be really heavily weighed down by
finances and all of it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I can't imagine that's what they look at and think.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, even things like the service over h When I
think about you go to a restaurant here and it's expensive.
It's expensive to eat our. It was expensive to at.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Home at the moment. I mean it's expensive to go
to wool.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But their service like they literally can't do enough for
you and you're paying like a third of the price
as you would in a restaurant here. Now, rach I
got on that Virgin Australia flight home, okay, I was
offered three cat piss wines, a red, a white and
a bubbles, three of the worst Australian brands. Don't even
(10:40):
get me started on why why is the red on
Virgin Hardies?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why? Ah, is that only a Bali thing?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I don't know. It was Virgin Australia. Three cat piss wines,
that's all they were serving. I said, I'll just try
the white and hope for the best. And the guy
looked at me and when here you go and here's
a cup of ice because it's not very cold, I
was like, that's it. I'm moving to Bali.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm chasing the simple life and buy myself a motorbike
and I'm gonna live with katut
Apogae Production. Welcome back to another episode of Am I
A Bad Mom Podcast. We've been talking a lot this
(00:27):
week about school holidays. Technically this term my girls are
first term of year.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Twelve Verde twelve.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, because really it's last term of year eleven.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But no, but they start, don't they pre start this
because then they have because we talked about this. Then
they don't have the technically this time next year, they
they're not really there any done, they're done.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah. And also rach because they've been doing a tape course,
two tape courses, actually courses. Yeah, that finishes at the
end of this year, and then they'll have their qualification
by November this year.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah. Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I mean it seems like it's nothing that they
want to do in the future. But you know, eight
thousand dollars later expensive.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I was just about to say, I'm going to encourage
our girls to do it.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I forgot that it was eight thousand dollars. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, I know, but it's still two qualifications under the belt. Yeah,
and you never know if they'll ever like go in
ten years time.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Hey got that quol use it?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, Well, Holly said to me the other day, Oh mom,
great news, I've got all my assignments done. Blah blah
blah blah blah. I went, oh, holy, great news. I've
paid a five thousand of the eight thousand we're on track.
(01:53):
Am I a bad mum for wanting the simple life?
Just not too simple? I said. During the holidays, we
went to Bali. It was quite a last minute booking.
Amelia had said to me, I'm really not looking forward
to the school holidays, Like I just feel sad about it.
We're just gonna be at home, You're gonna be at work,
(02:15):
We've got nothing planned. We just kind of had one
of those moments where it was like whether this is
sensible thing to do or not. We need a holiday,
Like I felt like I knew a holiday, So anyway,
booked it went. Now, when I talk about wanting this
simple life, what I realized is like out there, you're
in a third world country. It's all very different to
(02:37):
how it is here. Everything's a lot cheaper, it was
kind of just easy. I was like, Wow, it's so
nice to just be like jumping on the back of
a scooter like it was easy. So they've got an
equivalent over there of uber, which is called grab. You
are literally never more than five minutes away from getting
(02:59):
a grab. You can do a car or a bike.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Rade, Yeah right, I'm not holding on to somebody else
on the back.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Of a five minutes it would take for us to
get into like from the accommodation to like the main
parts of the area that we were in. A car
rate was four dollars on the back of a bike
was a dollar seventy dollars.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Seventy dollars seventy on the back of how like what
was the time difference, like as in twenty five minutes
in a same amount of time on a bike.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Or quicker on a bike. Yeah, they drive like they
are insane. They must be amazing drivers, because we could
not drive like that in that situation. Honestly. There's situations
where they go to turn right and there's like heaps
of bikes coming and they just keep going and I'm like, ah, just.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
And you're on the back of that bike with a
complete stranger.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We drive so carefully in this country rate.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You didn't get a chance to do anything else. That's why.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
No, Yeah, not so careful.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, and then when you're on the back with local
and they know exactly where they're going and what they're
doing and all the rest. Like, it's completely different over there,
isn't it where they Yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Just found the ease of life was just so simple.
You want to get Uber Eats, for example, and it's
grab obviously over there. It literally comes within about ten minutes,
prove because half the population's driving those bikes. Yeah, it
comes in like ten minutes. No delivery fee, you know
(04:32):
how here they just drop stuff off outside of your
house and it could be the wrong house and they
don't really care. They've gone. You know, they've done their delivery.
You've been charged. They don't charge you until you physically
take it, so you have to be physically handed whatever
whatever it is that you've born, Yeah, for them to
be able to then charge. I just found the way
(04:54):
of life just felt so simple. And I was like,
as a parent, I feel like we just need a
bit more of that. Yeah, it's stressful here. We've all
got work, we've got stuff going on, we're busy, the
appointments and shit's happening. And I just found it was
just so easy. But there was an experience that we
had which is gonna sound very privileged, but it was
(05:18):
literally because of the cost. It's so cheap. We had
a chef come to the villa age. The chef comes
to the villa, brings all the ingredients, cooks, the dinner,
serves you, The dinner leaves, and then you text them
or WhatsApp them. Everything's done by WhatsApp when you finish,
(05:38):
and they come and clear it all up. Oh rah,
forty dollars. Forty dollars for this privilege.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You should just ask him to move back home with you.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But what happened, and this is where I'm like, wow,
we need to take some tips from this. Because the
guy came Rach, and he had lost his voice, and
I got super paranoid that he was sick and he
was cooking our food.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
He was coughing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Whatsapped the villa manager. Yeah, catoot, and I've gone. Is
the chef sick? I'm a little worried, Rach, talk about efficient.
Next thing I know, chef's leaving. Another chef has come,
chucked away all the food that the guy had prepared,
cleaned the kitchen, brought more ingredients and cooked it all
(06:29):
from scratch. Oh my goodness, and even asked for that.
I was like, oh my god, this is simple life.
Yet look at how efficient they are.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a lot to do, that, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I did a lot of comparing. This particular episode is
not really much about kids, but I did a lot
of comparing of the stress and what we do in
life here, and the expense of everything too, yeah yeah,
and then the simple life over there. But how efficiently
they're doing it, yeah, and how cheap they're doing it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, Well we'll never get the cheap part. No, that's
never going to change the efficiency. I don't know if
I mean when you come down to, like you say,
the simple things in life, I think if we're stretching
it back to like parenting, our kids do so much.
I don't know what they do for parenting over there.
They've probably got plenty of help. But I look at
(07:22):
it and go like, at the end of the day,
like you've got this so much on. And I do
believe that the simplicity of life can be adapted, but
it has to come at a cost of other things.
So you have to be willing to let go of
other things that you've created, which is sometimes the messy stuff,
in order to get to the simplicity of it. But
(07:43):
with simplicity comes bear it all and then know what
you want to strip back on.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, when we talk about resilience, when I look at
the kids out there, I'm rich. Don't even get me
started on the dogs. The dogs don't see.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I'm no good with that stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
You don't just wander around. I know the dogs, right.
The dogs are allowed free rain, so they can leave
the house without a lead, without even an owner. They
just wander around. They're not straight dogs rage. They're owned,
they've got collars on, they are fed, they're perfectly good.
(08:18):
But you watch these dogs, it's like they're on little adventures.
They don't go near those busy roads. No, dogs couldn't
live like that, like that she escaped from the garden.
She got hit by a car. Like we do too
much for them, These dogs rage. Honestly, it astounded me
how smart these dogs were when I watched them, and
(08:40):
they just would be wandering around doing their own thing,
living their best life. They go nowhere near the road.
They're not stupid. Kids are the same. You watch those
kids on the back of the bikes. You've got little
two year olds hanging on for Koala to the back
of mum or dad. They're not letting go. They don't
have helmets on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Rage.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
No, I know, because that was well they're back in Australia. Now,
that is where my cousin's daughter, my cousin they that's
where she raised them, was in Bali and so that
was their you know, form of transport was the koala
cub in the middle between middle.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Of like obviously mum and dad.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
And then by the time Miss Laura was big enough,
then she'd slat on the back and all the photos
would come through and all the US and the videos
and I'd go.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh my god, but these kids aren't falling off.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
I know. No, No, I think it's because they've also
got that different smarts about them.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, our kids would street smart.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
They're street smart.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
They're almost like cultured smart because in their culture that's
what they do. They don't see us as you know,
there wouldn't be anything. I can't imagine that they see
that we do that they go, oh gosh, I really
want to over complicate my life and put more stress
in it and like be really heavily weighed down by
finances and all of it.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I can't imagine that's what they look at and think.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, even things like the service over h When I
think about you go to a restaurant here and it's expensive.
It's expensive to eat our. It was expensive to at.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Home at the moment. I mean it's expensive to go
to wool.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
But their service like they literally can't do enough for
you and you're paying like a third of the price
as you would in a restaurant here. Now, rach I
got on that Virgin Australia flight home, okay, I was
offered three cat piss wines, a red, a white and
a bubbles, three of the worst Australian brands. Don't even
(10:40):
get me started on why why is the red on
Virgin Hardies?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Why? Ah, is that only a Bali thing?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I don't know. It was Virgin Australia. Three cat piss wines,
that's all they were serving. I said, I'll just try
the white and hope for the best. And the guy
looked at me and when here you go and here's
a cup of ice because it's not very cold, I
was like, that's it. I'm moving to Bali.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm chasing the simple life and buy myself a motorbike
and I'm gonna live with katut
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