August 5, 2025 • 10 mins
Rach has every intention of making it a fun time waiting for netball training to start but Ellsie has other ideas and begins the attack!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apod Shape Production, welcome back to you another episode of
Am I A Bad Mom?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's the question we constantly ask three times a week.
We're also really interested to get your feedback and thoughts.
I think we're going to put a link in the
show notes, but also you can DM us on Instagram
as well at am I A Bad Mum? We're really
interested to know the content that you enjoy hearing, the
topics that you like to listen to. Is it just
(00:50):
mum stuff? Do you like the other stuff we chat about.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We've got another podcast, Girl's Gone Wild, Don't listen with
the kids in the car. And if there's that sort
of content you want, just let us know what kind
of gruesome stuff do you want or is it just
the mum stuff? Which is toat it's fine, but at
the same time, that's where this thought process has come from.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it was listening to you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't actually like I don't actually like it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm like, we need to switch it up.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Then, I think I don't like scrolling through other people's
social media.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I mean, you do follow the Kardashians, So need I
say it more?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, it's aspirational.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's not fucking as there's nothing like them.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it doesn't doesn't have to be real. I want
to live in a house like that, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I want to go to holiday, Yeah, I'll take the holiday.
They clean those houses. No, they've got people that clean it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Right, see, but do you really want their life, like,
really really want I had this conversation with someone else
the other day and there was sort.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Of like that whole.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was very generic, it was very surface level. I'm like, yeah,
I just want to be rich and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Famous, and I went, I'd rather be rich, not famous.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'd rather be private and have lots of money, yeah,
than to be in the spotlight everything.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But the other part with the money part is you
don't want too much that it changes your life too much.
And the reason I say that is because if you
imagined winning ten million dollars tonight on Lotto, right, imagine
and then you've maybe moved house, you probably have moved
past with ten million dollars. Yeah, so you've moved house.
Things are changing, people are noticing, you know, you're spending money.
(02:29):
You're going on these trips to Europe every couple of months,
and at some point people are going to cotton on
to the fact that you've got loads of money, does
that affect your relationships with friends? And I know that
you would want to say no, of course, my friends
that have always been my friends are still my friends. Yeah,
I get that, but there's still something around Are you
(02:53):
then expected to pay for dinner or you know, like
and then I think there's an element of being a
bit paranoid about whether people are they might not be,
but are using you for money and things like that,
and it just gets really messy. And it's like we've
talked about before, everything that you are currently excited for,
whether it's dinner in a restaurant on the weekend, holidays,
(03:15):
whatever it is, you will no longer be excited for
that if you have all the money in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
True, I am very generous, but I am selective with
who I hang out with now.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm don't have all the money in the world, so
I don't think that that would change for me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But the generosity level of knowing that I can take
my chosen circle with me to dinner and feel that
feeling of that generosity piece, I would love that. Yeah,
I wouldn't feel that part of them going are you
taking the piece?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like bit chickens will.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Buy me a champagne. I might have ten million dollars,
but hook me up. So yeah, I reckon that might
be that, but I am already like knowing who I am.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm very selective about my circle now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Maybe it's this stage in life thing. I don't know,
but I'd much rather have a handful of friends that
I really love hanging out with then like heaps of
I've been friend culling rach No honestly, no, no, no,
just gener general, when I come I feel like I'm
(04:19):
moving away slightly from the people that I don't have
much in common with anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That I think.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I believe it is such an invigorating part of your life,
and I do believe it starts from thirty. I know
that we can say it's probably really you know, nailed
in now than thirty, but like, just slightly, I think
it was definitely from me thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just felt the shift.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I felt the change, I felt the flow of life
just start to like shift with me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I went on, you're different to the friends that
you had at like high school for example, or in
your teen's early twenties. If any of my friends are
listening to the podcast. By the way, this is not you.
It's not you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm not your child. You're next. Just be careful. Am
I a bad mum for just walking away?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh? You have to.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I was gonna play you, Craig David just then like
as we over, I'm walking away. Yeah. No, that was
me at netball training last night with else like she
does a bit of like solo work on different occasions
with a particular coach who's amazing, And we were waiting
for her, and so Elsa and I were just mucking
around shooting hoops.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what a problem was.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
She was happy to be there, so it wasn't that
she was being forced to be there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
She's just being a bitch to me. And I thought
of you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like afterwards, because she kept getting a ball and hitting
my ball, so my ball would go I said, oh,
go and get my ball. Now that was not kind.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So, you know, shooting, she'd shoot, I'd shoot.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The ball would bounce kind of thing, and both of
our balls bounce and she knocked mine so it went
flying over the court.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
She gets, go and get it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Were you in competition with who was getting nice?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, we were just killing time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Because otherwise I would say that absolutely has got you
written all over it because you like to win.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
No, no, that was the thing. There was no competition.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But like happened once, I laughed it off and got
it the first time, did it again, not.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Laughing, No, it's annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now you go over and she.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Was like no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I said, go and get the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No to your ball.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
She goes, well, you shouldn't have shot it in my way.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh it's like that volcanic like, oh my god, I'm
about to rupt. I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm in public place, and I say, go and get
my fucking ball now. And she walked over.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
She got it. We kept on going and I was
like like, okay, diffused and then we're still carrying on.
And then she turned around and she was so rude.
She just said something that just sort of like just
shot me in the heart. And I thought of you
because you were like, you know, if you're starting to
navigate the older years of children, you've got to actually
really have your own back, because no one's going to
(07:08):
protect you from your child. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The other day, I wanted to make a meme. I
had this intention to I don't know who makes memes, Like,
do they just you just make when I see them
on like written out people. I wanted to make a
meme and it was going to go something like this.
It was going to go, dear mom, I hate you,
You're a bitch. I wish you weren't here. Fuck you.
(07:34):
But also, can I have all of your money, all
of your time, drive me around, do my washing, make
my dinner, clean the house, and then I will still
hate you?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, thank you, love you. I was me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just literally looked at her and was like, are
you serious? I said, mate, you're going to have to
be really mindful about where you are right now because
it's a long way home and you are walking my
friend it and sprayed me again and Katie, this is
really hard.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We've just drove there.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Everything was nice in the car, like, so for me,
I'm going, sorry, when.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Did the devil spawn arrive?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What is this about? You know what I did?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Instead of reacting again, because I really wanted to, I
had to be the bigger person and just walk away
rach And so I just walked over to the basket,
put the netball back in there, picked up my keys,
picked up my phone, and started walking out. And she
came racing up, mum, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You can't leave?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I went, yeah, no, I can just leave me be.
You go back in there, you do your lesson.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, but you can't like no one's here. And I
was like, you'll be fine, everything's on, just wait for
your coach.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I just kept walking.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I could feel her staring me down, and I was like,
just kept walking. But as I'm walking, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How did we get there? I didn't even know how
we got there?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And then you start to like almost like gaslight yourself,
like did I just do that? Was I the instigator
of that? Was I not being like fun and doing
something interactive with her, like active. I could have just
been like the other mums that just sit there and
on their phone, but I didn't. And I was like, oh,
I'll get up shoot with her, just you know, I
don't know where I went wrong, Katie. And then just
(09:21):
to top it off, I became one of those mums.
I came back in and they'd started.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That was fine, I said, hi, the coach. I sat down.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Then I just got on my phone and she noticed, Yeah,
she really noticed. They'd do a little thing that she
has a drink and then on the second time over,
she said, did you see that then?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And I said no, sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm busy on.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
She says, I know, Well could you put your phone
down and watch? And I said, well no, I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Really sorry, And then I was like, okay, you're being childish, Rachel.
I was so angry, Katie. And then I was going
to bed. I was still angry and felt so guilty. Yeah,
and so again gaslighting myself over my own.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like why was I so triggered? I was so upset?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
What was it that she exactly said that made me
feel like shit in myself because it's more about my feelings,
Like I laid there for at least forty five minutes
thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I get it, Like, I definitely do that. Sometimes you've
just got to accept the fact that they're being assholes. Yeah,
you're probably overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
When I woke up this morning, I thought, I just
need to check myself into a fucking straight jacket somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Do you have any other No, I don't, But I
really want you to excuse me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I need to be sectioned. What are you doing about?
What do I need to do? Do you want me
to act like a lunatic outside.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
How do you accept me as a patient but you're
not unwell?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know, but I just really I'm going to be.
I just need a break.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So if I'm in here, I guess it's an excuse
like can I come in please? That's I was like,
I receeve id net a holiday or something. I don't know.
Apod Shape Production, welcome back to you another episode of
Am I A Bad Mom?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's the question we constantly ask three times a week.
We're also really interested to get your feedback and thoughts.
I think we're going to put a link in the
show notes, but also you can DM us on Instagram
as well at am I A Bad Mum? We're really
interested to know the content that you enjoy hearing, the
topics that you like to listen to. Is it just
(00:50):
mum stuff? Do you like the other stuff we chat about.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We've got another podcast, Girl's Gone Wild, Don't listen with
the kids in the car. And if there's that sort
of content you want, just let us know what kind
of gruesome stuff do you want or is it just
the mum stuff? Which is toat it's fine, but at
the same time, that's where this thought process has come from.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it was listening to you.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't actually like I don't actually like it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm like, we need to switch it up.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Then, I think I don't like scrolling through other people's
social media.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I mean, you do follow the Kardashians, So need I
say it more?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, it's aspirational.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's not fucking as there's nothing like them.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it doesn't doesn't have to be real. I want
to live in a house like that, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I want to go to holiday, Yeah, I'll take the holiday.
They clean those houses. No, they've got people that clean it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Right, see, but do you really want their life, like,
really really want I had this conversation with someone else
the other day and there was sort.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Of like that whole.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was very generic, it was very surface level. I'm like, yeah,
I just want to be rich and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Famous, and I went, I'd rather be rich, not famous.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'd rather be private and have lots of money, yeah,
than to be in the spotlight everything.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
But the other part with the money part is you
don't want too much that it changes your life too much.
And the reason I say that is because if you
imagined winning ten million dollars tonight on Lotto, right, imagine
and then you've maybe moved house, you probably have moved
past with ten million dollars. Yeah, so you've moved house.
Things are changing, people are noticing, you know, you're spending money.
(02:29):
You're going on these trips to Europe every couple of months,
and at some point people are going to cotton on
to the fact that you've got loads of money, does
that affect your relationships with friends? And I know that
you would want to say no, of course, my friends
that have always been my friends are still my friends. Yeah,
I get that, but there's still something around Are you
(02:53):
then expected to pay for dinner or you know, like
and then I think there's an element of being a
bit paranoid about whether people are they might not be,
but are using you for money and things like that,
and it just gets really messy. And it's like we've
talked about before, everything that you are currently excited for,
whether it's dinner in a restaurant on the weekend, holidays,
(03:15):
whatever it is, you will no longer be excited for
that if you have all the money in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
True, I am very generous, but I am selective with
who I hang out with now.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm don't have all the money in the world, so
I don't think that that would change for me.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But the generosity level of knowing that I can take
my chosen circle with me to dinner and feel that
feeling of that generosity piece, I would love that. Yeah,
I wouldn't feel that part of them going are you
taking the piece?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like bit chickens will.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Buy me a champagne. I might have ten million dollars,
but hook me up. So yeah, I reckon that might
be that, but I am already like knowing who I am.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I'm very selective about my circle now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Maybe it's this stage in life thing. I don't know,
but I'd much rather have a handful of friends that
I really love hanging out with then like heaps of
I've been friend culling rach No honestly, no, no, no,
just gener general, when I come I feel like I'm
(04:19):
moving away slightly from the people that I don't have
much in common with anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
That I think.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I believe it is such an invigorating part of your life,
and I do believe it starts from thirty. I know
that we can say it's probably really you know, nailed
in now than thirty, but like, just slightly, I think
it was definitely from me thirty.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just felt the shift.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I felt the change, I felt the flow of life
just start to like shift with me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And I went on, you're different to the friends that
you had at like high school for example, or in
your teen's early twenties. If any of my friends are
listening to the podcast. By the way, this is not you.
It's not you.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm not your child. You're next. Just be careful. Am
I a bad mum for just walking away?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh? You have to.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I was gonna play you, Craig David just then like
as we over, I'm walking away. Yeah. No, that was
me at netball training last night with else like she
does a bit of like solo work on different occasions
with a particular coach who's amazing, And we were waiting
for her, and so Elsa and I were just mucking
around shooting hoops.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I don't know what a problem was.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
She was happy to be there, so it wasn't that
she was being forced to be there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
She's just being a bitch to me. And I thought
of you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Like afterwards, because she kept getting a ball and hitting
my ball, so my ball would go I said, oh,
go and get my ball. Now that was not kind.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So, you know, shooting, she'd shoot, I'd shoot.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The ball would bounce kind of thing, and both of
our balls bounce and she knocked mine so it went
flying over the court.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
She gets, go and get it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Were you in competition with who was getting nice?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, we were just killing time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Because otherwise I would say that absolutely has got you
written all over it because you like to win.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
No, no, that was the thing. There was no competition.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But like happened once, I laughed it off and got
it the first time, did it again, not.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Laughing, No, it's annoying.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now you go over and she.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Was like no.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
I said, go and get the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
No to your ball.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
She goes, well, you shouldn't have shot it in my way.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Oh it's like that volcanic like, oh my god, I'm
about to rupt. I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I'm in public place, and I say, go and get
my fucking ball now. And she walked over.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
She got it. We kept on going and I was
like like, okay, diffused and then we're still carrying on.
And then she turned around and she was so rude.
She just said something that just sort of like just
shot me in the heart. And I thought of you
because you were like, you know, if you're starting to
navigate the older years of children, you've got to actually
really have your own back, because no one's going to
(07:08):
protect you from your child. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The other day, I wanted to make a meme. I
had this intention to I don't know who makes memes, Like,
do they just you just make when I see them
on like written out people. I wanted to make a
meme and it was going to go something like this.
It was going to go, dear mom, I hate you,
You're a bitch. I wish you weren't here. Fuck you.
(07:34):
But also, can I have all of your money, all
of your time, drive me around, do my washing, make
my dinner, clean the house, and then I will still
hate you?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, thank you, love you. I was me.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I just literally looked at her and was like, are
you serious? I said, mate, you're going to have to
be really mindful about where you are right now because
it's a long way home and you are walking my
friend it and sprayed me again and Katie, this is
really hard.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
We've just drove there.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Everything was nice in the car, like, so for me,
I'm going, sorry, when.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Did the devil spawn arrive?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
What is this about? You know what I did?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Instead of reacting again, because I really wanted to, I
had to be the bigger person and just walk away
rach And so I just walked over to the basket,
put the netball back in there, picked up my keys,
picked up my phone, and started walking out. And she
came racing up, mum, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You can't leave?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And I went, yeah, no, I can just leave me be.
You go back in there, you do your lesson.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
No, but you can't like no one's here. And I
was like, you'll be fine, everything's on, just wait for
your coach.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I just kept walking.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I could feel her staring me down, and I was like,
just kept walking. But as I'm walking, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How did we get there? I didn't even know how
we got there?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And then you start to like almost like gaslight yourself,
like did I just do that? Was I the instigator
of that? Was I not being like fun and doing
something interactive with her, like active. I could have just
been like the other mums that just sit there and
on their phone, but I didn't. And I was like, oh,
I'll get up shoot with her, just you know, I
don't know where I went wrong, Katie. And then just
(09:21):
to top it off, I became one of those mums.
I came back in and they'd started.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That was fine, I said, hi, the coach. I sat down.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Then I just got on my phone and she noticed, Yeah,
she really noticed. They'd do a little thing that she
has a drink and then on the second time over,
she said, did you see that then?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And I said no, sorry, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I'm busy on.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
She says, I know, Well could you put your phone
down and watch? And I said, well no, I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Really sorry, And then I was like, okay, you're being childish, Rachel.
I was so angry, Katie. And then I was going
to bed. I was still angry and felt so guilty. Yeah,
and so again gaslighting myself over my own.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Like why was I so triggered? I was so upset?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
What was it that she exactly said that made me
feel like shit in myself because it's more about my feelings,
Like I laid there for at least forty five minutes
thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I get it, Like, I definitely do that. Sometimes you've
just got to accept the fact that they're being assholes. Yeah,
you're probably overthinking it.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
When I woke up this morning, I thought, I just
need to check myself into a fucking straight jacket somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Do you have any other No, I don't, But I
really want you to excuse me.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I need to be sectioned. What are you doing about?
What do I need to do? Do you want me
to act like a lunatic outside.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
How do you accept me as a patient but you're
not unwell?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know, but I just really I'm going to be.
I just need a break.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So if I'm in here, I guess it's an excuse
like can I come in please? That's I was like,
I receeve id net a holiday or something. I don't know.
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