July 31, 2025 • 13 mins
Katie has had to remind her kids that she is in fact a human being andf there's only so much she can take. As always, Rach has some good advice!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode ab am I A Bad
Mom Podcast. We were just chatting before we hit record
about it's one of those times like this is a
good day today for me to record am I a
Bad Mum? Because I feel like a fucking shit one.
I do feel like a shit one. And I had
a moment this morning of saying to one daughter in particular,
(00:48):
I'm so done with this. We have like a couple
of good weeks, the normal stuff, the being a nag
and like the kind of not too serious mum battles,
and then every now and then it's like, bam, im,
like I have reached my limit of being corn down,
(01:08):
ripped apart, fucking trampled on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be hormonal, I reckon for your household too,
Like it's almost like you would.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Be all in cycle of like.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We're good, we're good, week one, week two, week three,
week four, just gonna go all off. Yeah, I think weird. Hormonally,
we're all it's all sinking. It is like World War three. Yeah,
in our household.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Do you remember five years before girls start their periods
is when all that starts changing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I get yeah, I feel yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Maybe it's like it's something in the ether, something like energetically,
like I felt so flat this morning, and I mean
it's perfect that we're recording because I drove here going, why.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
The fuck do we do this? Like what is my
purpose today? Oh? No, you mom don't have a purpose.
You just got to go and do all the shitty jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That you spend your money on, the shitty jobs so
that we can like trash it and then you've got
to fix it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, And then I don't know about you. But then
I go through a cycle of resentment. I did it
this morning. Rate. I looked in the mirror and I went,
I looked in the mirror, and I went, GESZ, you
need to get your teeth fixed. When we talk about
being kind to yourself, right, this is a great example
(02:28):
of what not to do. So we should be being
kind to ourself right looking in the mirror, GZ, you
need to get your teeth fixed. And then I had
this moment of resentment, going, I spent fourteen thousand dollars
on my kid's teeth having braces. Why am I not
doing that for myself?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Great question?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Have I've spent all the money, but it's also is
there a deserving part, like if we're going to go deep,
is there a part where you go as a mom,
I need to be spending my money and doing things
for my kids and not for myself. And I remember
hearing someone say once stop spending all your money on
cute little outfits for your kids. You need a new bra.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's so true or underwear. I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I also am at the other end of it. I
hear you say these things, and I laugh about it
with my two girls because obviously one requires an orthodontist
appointment every twelve months and the other one doesn't. But
it's like this competition because one might be getting braces
and one isn't getting races, And I'm looking at the
(03:34):
one that isn't getting braces and going, you should be grateful.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You've got beautiful teeth, so be happy and proud.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I agree those for you I designed you came out
of my body. Thank me later, whereas the other one
is like, ah, yeah, well you know what, I don't
know that I really want braces.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Sweet. That is so good.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
And I looked at her and the car as we're
going to this orthodon disappointment going. If you don't want
to go, trust me, we don't have to go. I
didn't get any of these privileges. This is a privilege
for me to do this for you. I did mine
after I had you two girls. Yeah, I fixed my
own teeth then. I didn't have my parents paying for
me to get my teeth fixed then, or like, trust me,
(04:17):
my wisdom teeth came out.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I had to pay for that. I had to like,
no one paid for it. I paid for it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So, girlfriend, if you don't want this, I'm totally fine
with it because you're gonna save me a whole lot
of money. And when you do get it done later
in life and you are paying the bill, you were
going and appreciate this more.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
She just looked at me. I was like, so, where
we at? Where we at?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We we're calling up, we're going in. We're not going in,
Like what are we doing? She's like, Oh, I suppose
we'll just go in and do the check up. Then
I don't know if I want it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I said, great, let's do the check up. After that,
you're on your own. Kid. She's like, oh mom, I'm ten.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh yeah, of course you are I'm one hundred percent
like that with UK.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I just go.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If you want to do it, and you want to
spend the money on yourself, do it honestly.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, because then that resentment really isn't their fault.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's not theirs, that's yours.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, that's mine.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's your baggage.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Whether you're willing to carry the baggage with you and
continue on the resentment, or leave the baggage there, fix
what you want to fix, and then stop delivering them
anything else.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They've got to earn the shit.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've already done it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I've already spent all that money on them. There's lots
more coming that's going to be required. Yeah, look you're
like that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah No, I had awards eighteen and then I am done.
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Look we say that, but this day and age, we've
all got kids hanging on till they're thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I know. Planning that well, we're not planning any of it.
It'll just fucking kiss just keeps it happening.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Am I bad mum for refusing to pick them up?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh right? Perfect?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
As we said before, perfect day for it. I am
coming into this recording session jam packed full of content
after what happened last night. So my girls are currently
down on the Gold Coast staying at a hotel to
do a hospitality course with school. Right, so they're there.
They learn all parts of the hotel, from room service
(06:20):
to the restaurant to making mocktails. So the girls are
in a room together. I highly expect that there has
been some late nights and some watching shows on their
laptops a lot later than I would normally allow. I
get a phone call yesterday, so this is night three.
(06:42):
Oh mum, we feel so sick, just not feeling well.
I think it's food poisoning. I expect for this to happen.
This happens after sleepovers, this happens after school camp. It's
a combination of burning the candle at both ends, overtired,
eating shit, you know, none of the things that happened
(07:05):
at home. And they're banging on at me about how
sick they are. I went, I can't do anything about
this because I'm not there. Go and tell your teacher.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
They also went hour and a half away. Yeah, they're
not around the corner at school.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So rach I get a call from the teacher. I
didn't answer at first because I'm watching a show. My
phone's on silent. I got sick of the text message
after text message of something I couldn't do anything about,
and my phone just keeps ringing, and so I answer it, Yes, Hello,
and it's the teacher there. I'm on speakerphone. Yeah, both
(07:41):
the girls are there, going we don't feel very well,
and the teacher is there. And then another teachers come
and joined in. She said, you're going to have to
come and pick them up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I was like, no, they just put them in their room. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rach like, you're going to have to come and pick
them up. I was like, okay. Couple of red flags
for me. First of all, I know my children. I've
known them for sixteen years. They're arguing with me right now,
so that is not very sick in my mind. They've
had two nights of probably not sleeping very much. Again,
I know my kids.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You would set meals and be like, okay, like you know,
at least you know they're having three meals.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And there would be vegetables in there, and there would
be stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
They're probably not even eating.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They're probably just like picking and being like flaky about that.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So then they'd feel off with that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They'll be eating chips, they'll be drinking coke like, they'll
be having not much sleep like actual Yeah, they'll be
on screens a lot more like the whole thing screens
to me. Of course you're feeling sick, yeah, of course.
And so when I bring this up, I've got the
girls arguing, she never believes that, and the teacher's going,
(08:49):
I think you should come pick them up. At this point,
rach it's eleven fifteen and you and I'm like, you
want me to get in the car now, drive for
an hour and a half. I'm going to get to
you at about one am. I'm then going to turn
around and I'm going to drive all the way home
and I'm going to get home probably around two thirty am. Yep,
(09:12):
for them to get into bed and go to sleep.
Same as what's going to happen there.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, just go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now, Why wouldn't they be doing this, I don't know,
making you look like you don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As I was talking, I was like, I am sounding
like a bad mum. And so then this morning rage,
I get it all. I get the attack of any
other mom would come and pick their kids up. You
didn't care about us, You just let us be here sick.
We didn't know what to do. I got to the
point where I was like, I'm so done.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You would have been damned if you do and damned
if you don't. Yeah, So even if you drove down
there and did it, there would have been a fucking
rigmarole of.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, you're not good enough if you still weren't here
at this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Time now and then the same things you just want
to come, Yeah, you would have been damned if you do,
damned if you don't. Yeah, you're not gonna Whatever came
out of this situation of going down at eleven thirty
last night and then or today one hundred percent was
never going to be good enough because they were out
of sort.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Attack. Attack attack. Remind Mom that she's a shit parent.
Remind Mom that everyone else would have done it. Remind
Mom that the teachers think you're the worst mum ever.
I got to the point where I was like, I
wouldn't be speaking with my high school bully right now.
I'd be moving on with life and surrounding myself with
(10:34):
people that value me. Yeah, and so why in our
own homes and our own the people we love the
most in all the world are making us feel so shit.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I say this all the time. I know I do.
Any mums out there who are going to have teenagers,
you know, at some point do the work on yourself.
You have to start doing the work on yourself now,
because when you get to the stage where you are
you ripped apart. Rach I spent half an hour on
fucking ticket tech getting the med cheering tickets.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I think there's more in it for you to learn,
Katie than them. It's kind of like that else was
going off for me and she was like this, and
she's like that, why no? And I was like, because
for the same reason, I don't have to explain yes.
When I say yes to you, I don't have to
explain no. I'm not going to give you an explanation.
The answer is just clearly no. You are, you know,
going off her head and all the rest they were
(11:29):
at me and at me, and I've asked and I've
started off calm. By the end of it, I was like,
fuck you both, I'm leaving right now. Ah, but we
haven't got with this and we haven't got that. Hey,
you can't leave without us, No, no I am. We
got in the car and I was just like, do
you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I said?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I am a fucking good parent, and I am a
good person. I said, but see how elevated I had
to get in order for you to just hear me,
I said. Do you think I like speaking and hearing
my own voice? No?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't, I.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Said, but you know, in my head, I was like, oh,
this is nice. We'll go and do this because we
had to run one errand then we'll go to like
Brookside and grab a Boost Juice together, and we'll like
hang out and.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Let's go look in city Beach. That's what I had
planned in my head. I said, But now that we're here,
fuck that. I'm not taking you anywhere. You can sit
in the car around the erran and drive home.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And then they started that I'm so sorry. I said, no,
see this is the thing. If I choose to now
go oh, I accept your apology, the next time this
comes around, it'll still keep happening. I said, So no,
no Boostjuice, no brook Side, No, I think it was
cotton On that else wanted to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
No cotton On nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I need you to know that in my head, that's
what I had planned for you, because it was nice
now that you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Fucked me over. I was like, I cannot reward you
for this shit behavior.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, it's just that, like, let's rip mom apart because
she'll just bounce back.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's actually not okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Where do you show up with the same kindness and
respect that you expect from me. There's actually a really
good piece just to wrap this up, Mel Robbins, in
that book Let Them.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's really interesting because.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
There's a whole section about parents leading into live with teenagers.
There's some really good insight in that book in one
of the chapters about how to implement that but within
your own family.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I've just been reading it.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And it literally just hit last night and I was like,
oh my god. Yeah, you need to like read it
probably another three or four times for it to fully
sink in.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But there's a really good piece in that I reckon
you should read it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
If you have any kind of issues with confidence or
insecurities or any of that stuff. Do the work before
you have teenagers, or don't they you apart.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Go and get a really good job that you can afford,
boarding school, send them or just leave just up and
leave you go to boarding school.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yes,
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode ab am I A Bad
Mom Podcast. We were just chatting before we hit record
about it's one of those times like this is a
good day today for me to record am I a
Bad Mum? Because I feel like a fucking shit one.
I do feel like a shit one. And I had
a moment this morning of saying to one daughter in particular,
(00:48):
I'm so done with this. We have like a couple
of good weeks, the normal stuff, the being a nag
and like the kind of not too serious mum battles,
and then every now and then it's like, bam, im,
like I have reached my limit of being corn down,
(01:08):
ripped apart, fucking trampled on.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, it's gonna be hormonal, I reckon for your household too,
Like it's almost like you would.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Be all in cycle of like.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
We're good, we're good, week one, week two, week three,
week four, just gonna go all off. Yeah, I think weird. Hormonally,
we're all it's all sinking. It is like World War three. Yeah,
in our household.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Do you remember five years before girls start their periods
is when all that starts changing.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I get yeah, I feel yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Maybe it's like it's something in the ether, something like energetically,
like I felt so flat this morning, and I mean
it's perfect that we're recording because I drove here going, why.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
The fuck do we do this? Like what is my
purpose today? Oh? No, you mom don't have a purpose.
You just got to go and do all the shitty jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
That you spend your money on, the shitty jobs so
that we can like trash it and then you've got
to fix it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, And then I don't know about you. But then
I go through a cycle of resentment. I did it
this morning. Rate. I looked in the mirror and I went,
I looked in the mirror, and I went, GESZ, you
need to get your teeth fixed. When we talk about
being kind to yourself, right, this is a great example
(02:28):
of what not to do. So we should be being
kind to ourself right looking in the mirror, GZ, you
need to get your teeth fixed. And then I had
this moment of resentment, going, I spent fourteen thousand dollars
on my kid's teeth having braces. Why am I not
doing that for myself?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Great question?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Have I've spent all the money, but it's also is
there a deserving part, like if we're going to go deep,
is there a part where you go as a mom,
I need to be spending my money and doing things
for my kids and not for myself. And I remember
hearing someone say once stop spending all your money on
cute little outfits for your kids. You need a new bra.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's so true or underwear. I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I also am at the other end of it. I
hear you say these things, and I laugh about it
with my two girls because obviously one requires an orthodontist
appointment every twelve months and the other one doesn't. But
it's like this competition because one might be getting braces
and one isn't getting races, And I'm looking at the
(03:34):
one that isn't getting braces and going, you should be grateful.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
You've got beautiful teeth, so be happy and proud.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I agree those for you I designed you came out
of my body. Thank me later, whereas the other one
is like, ah, yeah, well you know what, I don't
know that I really want braces.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Sweet. That is so good.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
And I looked at her and the car as we're
going to this orthodon disappointment going. If you don't want
to go, trust me, we don't have to go. I
didn't get any of these privileges. This is a privilege
for me to do this for you. I did mine
after I had you two girls. Yeah, I fixed my
own teeth then. I didn't have my parents paying for
me to get my teeth fixed then, or like, trust me,
(04:17):
my wisdom teeth came out.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I had to pay for that. I had to like,
no one paid for it. I paid for it.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So, girlfriend, if you don't want this, I'm totally fine
with it because you're gonna save me a whole lot
of money. And when you do get it done later
in life and you are paying the bill, you were
going and appreciate this more.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
She just looked at me. I was like, so, where
we at? Where we at?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
We we're calling up, we're going in. We're not going in,
Like what are we doing? She's like, Oh, I suppose
we'll just go in and do the check up. Then
I don't know if I want it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I said, great, let's do the check up. After that,
you're on your own. Kid. She's like, oh mom, I'm ten.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh yeah, of course you are I'm one hundred percent
like that with UK.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I just go.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If you want to do it, and you want to
spend the money on yourself, do it honestly.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, because then that resentment really isn't their fault.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's not theirs, that's yours.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, that's mine.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
That's your baggage.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Whether you're willing to carry the baggage with you and
continue on the resentment, or leave the baggage there, fix
what you want to fix, and then stop delivering them
anything else.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They've got to earn the shit.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've already done it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I've already spent all that money on them. There's lots
more coming that's going to be required. Yeah, look you're
like that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah No, I had awards eighteen and then I am done.
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Look we say that, but this day and age, we've
all got kids hanging on till they're thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I know. Planning that well, we're not planning any of it.
It'll just fucking kiss just keeps it happening.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Am I bad mum for refusing to pick them up?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh right? Perfect?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
As we said before, perfect day for it. I am
coming into this recording session jam packed full of content
after what happened last night. So my girls are currently
down on the Gold Coast staying at a hotel to
do a hospitality course with school. Right, so they're there.
They learn all parts of the hotel, from room service
(06:20):
to the restaurant to making mocktails. So the girls are
in a room together. I highly expect that there has
been some late nights and some watching shows on their
laptops a lot later than I would normally allow. I
get a phone call yesterday, so this is night three.
(06:42):
Oh mum, we feel so sick, just not feeling well.
I think it's food poisoning. I expect for this to happen.
This happens after sleepovers, this happens after school camp. It's
a combination of burning the candle at both ends, overtired,
eating shit, you know, none of the things that happened
(07:05):
at home. And they're banging on at me about how
sick they are. I went, I can't do anything about
this because I'm not there. Go and tell your teacher.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
They also went hour and a half away. Yeah, they're
not around the corner at school.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So rach I get a call from the teacher. I
didn't answer at first because I'm watching a show. My
phone's on silent. I got sick of the text message
after text message of something I couldn't do anything about,
and my phone just keeps ringing, and so I answer it, Yes, Hello,
and it's the teacher there. I'm on speakerphone. Yeah, both
(07:41):
the girls are there, going we don't feel very well,
and the teacher is there. And then another teachers come
and joined in. She said, you're going to have to
come and pick them up.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
I was like, no, they just put them in their room. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Rach like, you're going to have to come and pick
them up. I was like, okay. Couple of red flags
for me. First of all, I know my children. I've
known them for sixteen years. They're arguing with me right now,
so that is not very sick in my mind. They've
had two nights of probably not sleeping very much. Again,
I know my kids.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You would set meals and be like, okay, like you know,
at least you know they're having three meals.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
And there would be vegetables in there, and there would
be stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
They're probably not even eating.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
They're probably just like picking and being like flaky about that.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So then they'd feel off with that.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They'll be eating chips, they'll be drinking coke like, they'll
be having not much sleep like actual Yeah, they'll be
on screens a lot more like the whole thing screens
to me. Of course you're feeling sick, yeah, of course.
And so when I bring this up, I've got the
girls arguing, she never believes that, and the teacher's going,
(08:49):
I think you should come pick them up. At this point,
rach it's eleven fifteen and you and I'm like, you
want me to get in the car now, drive for
an hour and a half. I'm going to get to
you at about one am. I'm then going to turn
around and I'm going to drive all the way home
and I'm going to get home probably around two thirty am. Yep,
(09:12):
for them to get into bed and go to sleep.
Same as what's going to happen there.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, just go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Now, Why wouldn't they be doing this, I don't know,
making you look like you don't care.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
As I was talking, I was like, I am sounding
like a bad mum. And so then this morning rage,
I get it all. I get the attack of any
other mom would come and pick their kids up. You
didn't care about us, You just let us be here sick.
We didn't know what to do. I got to the
point where I was like, I'm so done.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
You would have been damned if you do and damned
if you don't. Yeah, So even if you drove down
there and did it, there would have been a fucking
rigmarole of.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, you're not good enough if you still weren't here
at this.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Time now and then the same things you just want
to come, Yeah, you would have been damned if you do,
damned if you don't. Yeah, you're not gonna Whatever came
out of this situation of going down at eleven thirty
last night and then or today one hundred percent was
never going to be good enough because they were out
of sort.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Attack. Attack attack. Remind Mom that she's a shit parent.
Remind Mom that everyone else would have done it. Remind
Mom that the teachers think you're the worst mum ever.
I got to the point where I was like, I
wouldn't be speaking with my high school bully right now.
I'd be moving on with life and surrounding myself with
(10:34):
people that value me. Yeah, and so why in our
own homes and our own the people we love the
most in all the world are making us feel so shit.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I say this all the time. I know I do.
Any mums out there who are going to have teenagers,
you know, at some point do the work on yourself.
You have to start doing the work on yourself now,
because when you get to the stage where you are
you ripped apart. Rach I spent half an hour on
fucking ticket tech getting the med cheering tickets.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I think there's more in it for you to learn,
Katie than them. It's kind of like that else was
going off for me and she was like this, and
she's like that, why no? And I was like, because
for the same reason, I don't have to explain yes.
When I say yes to you, I don't have to
explain no. I'm not going to give you an explanation.
The answer is just clearly no. You are, you know,
going off her head and all the rest they were
(11:29):
at me and at me, and I've asked and I've
started off calm. By the end of it, I was like,
fuck you both, I'm leaving right now. Ah, but we
haven't got with this and we haven't got that. Hey,
you can't leave without us, No, no I am. We
got in the car and I was just like, do
you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I said?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I am a fucking good parent, and I am a
good person. I said, but see how elevated I had
to get in order for you to just hear me,
I said. Do you think I like speaking and hearing
my own voice? No?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I don't, I.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Said, but you know, in my head, I was like, oh,
this is nice. We'll go and do this because we
had to run one errand then we'll go to like
Brookside and grab a Boost Juice together, and we'll like
hang out and.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Let's go look in city Beach. That's what I had
planned in my head. I said, But now that we're here,
fuck that. I'm not taking you anywhere. You can sit
in the car around the erran and drive home.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
And then they started that I'm so sorry. I said, no,
see this is the thing. If I choose to now
go oh, I accept your apology, the next time this
comes around, it'll still keep happening. I said, So no,
no Boostjuice, no brook Side, No, I think it was
cotton On that else wanted to go to.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
No cotton On nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I need you to know that in my head, that's
what I had planned for you, because it was nice
now that you.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Fucked me over. I was like, I cannot reward you
for this shit behavior.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, it's just that, like, let's rip mom apart because
she'll just bounce back.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah. Yeah, And it's actually not okay.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Where do you show up with the same kindness and
respect that you expect from me. There's actually a really
good piece just to wrap this up, Mel Robbins, in
that book Let Them.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's really interesting because.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
There's a whole section about parents leading into live with teenagers.
There's some really good insight in that book in one
of the chapters about how to implement that but within
your own family.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I've just been reading it.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And it literally just hit last night and I was like,
oh my god. Yeah, you need to like read it
probably another three or four times for it to fully
sink in.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But there's a really good piece in that I reckon
you should read it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
If you have any kind of issues with confidence or
insecurities or any of that stuff. Do the work before
you have teenagers, or don't they you apart.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Go and get a really good job that you can afford,
boarding school, send them or just leave just up and
leave you go to boarding school.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yes,
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