August 24, 2025 • 9 mins
How often do we hear from our kids 'why can't I do that?' 'everyone else is allowed to do this?' introducing.... responsibility = privilege for Katie's household!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apodjake Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode about I a bad podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The podcast that continually gives I was laughing about it
on the way here, going if it's not my children,
it's animals. I had to run in with an animal
on the way here. Yeah, and I was late. But
you're expecting that, You're always expecting that. I think you
told me, like, be here at one, and you know
I'll be here at two.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, I think I always have in my head. Oh,
Rachel said one, okay, cool, one thirty and probably less.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Than a handful of time.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, you've come early, and that's when I'm not here,
or every other time i'm here, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, one clock.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But I know Rachel'll be another half an hour, so
carry on with what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But then on the way here, I have run in
with the dog.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Someone else's dog, not mine.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's lost, so I go run in. You didn't run
and run into it. I've pulled over and helped it.
But the run in was that once I got it
into the car, I couldn't get it out.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I got a photo saying sorry, I'm gonna be late.
You need to just rescue this dog. The dog's in
like your foot well of your car, loves cars, just
laying there. Yeah, you're a stranger. You don't know this dog.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm quite like hesitant because I'm going up to a
strange dog, you know how you go, Oh, whoa wonder
if it's not gonna like me.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Anyway, I was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hey, and then it came sort of like, oh gosh,
there's someone here. And then it's standing looking at my door,
and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I gotta get you my car.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So I just literally opened the.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Door to get my phone to ring her owner because
it had it on its collar. Yes, just jumped up,
just straighted sat there, but then stuck itself right in
the back where your feet go.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm
taking you back.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So in my head I was like, just ring and
I'll just see hopefully they'll just be home and I
just sleep and they'll just come over and yeah, that's
all well and good.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Absolutely not the case.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I then though, drop the dog back to its home,
which the lady is working in the city and the
dog is not getting out of my car.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So then I'm going, fuck, I've got to be it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Podcast get get aca.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But at this stage, it's like a bit shaking. She said, Oh,
it doesn't like rain or storms. I was like, this
poor dog must be going through this all the time. Anyway,
she says, I just got to go put it out
the back in the shed and then lock the door,
and then she won't get back out.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm also looking around at this house. Never been to
the house. I don't know who I'm talking to. I'm
thinking if they got cameras, this is gonna be fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've got a white jumper on.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I don't actually want to carry your dog.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I'm actually clean, and so I'm in there and I'm going,
come on, trying to pull its colot.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And then it's just literally said that. I was like, fuck,
so ring lady back, excuse me, I can't get your
dog out of my card. Like, have you got food anywhere?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'd tried Grace's afternoon tea bag. I'm shaking it going here.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I want cheese and biscuits. I'll give you cheese and biscuits.
I know cheese. Dogs can't have cheese, but I'll fucking
give it to you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Just fuck anyway, another ten minutes past us. I had
to drag it out with rope. With the rope, I
had to go on, find rope in their shed and
get the rope around its little thing and try and
drag it out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I'm going, oh, sorry, do you know what its
name was? Tinker Bell?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Tinker Bell was a thirty kilo lab that had not
had a wash in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
A really long time. Anyway, I made it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah you did late, yeah, late, but at least this
time there was a great excit.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah I did say that to you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I was like, well, it might be late, but I've
just done my good deed for the week.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, please don't late. You dog out again.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, and how about that lady that just say don't
work and stay to work, hard work.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh the god, you can just.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Drive it to my house, go round the back, find
a rope, drag it out, give it your kids afternoon tea.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Good on you mind your kids. I've got nothing on.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I can clean your house.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Am I bad mum for introducing responsibility equals privilege? Whoa, yeah,
this is a new thing, Rach, Responsibility equals privilege. Okay,
so you want to stay up later at night, Yeah,
you need to show me that you are responsible.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Enough, you'd be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, So it's good.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Last night, Rach. Ten fifteen, Amelia comes.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Down and I'm like, I want to be in bed.
There is normally a rule in our house in that
everything goes on charge at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
One of the girls has said, please, Mum, can we
go for dinner?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And I was like, oh, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
In my mind, I'm thinking, oh, they must not have
any schoolwork to do if they're suggesting going for dinner.
So we've done that, we get home, it's about eight
o'clock and they've gone, oh, yeah, we need to get
our assignment done. I was like, what you need to
start your assignment now, Like you came for dinner. Why
(05:34):
did you come for dinner knowing that you've got to
do that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You're having to feed them.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I don't understand it, Like, yeah, I know, but they
could have been doing their work.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, I know. I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's like, I say, understand that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And so then literally ten point fifteen she comes down
right and like I can hear her still upstairs and
doing shit and then having a shower and all the rest, and.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm like okay, just let them.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Let them and I will then say to them, just
so you know, we're introducing responsibility equals privilege. So you
have come down at ten fifteen, it's a lot later
than you're supposed to do that. And so the responsibility
part is you need to show me tomorrow you get
(06:21):
yourself up. I am not coming in going come on.
They both got an alarm clock, Rach. I hear those
alarms go off again and again again and again, and
the amount of times that I'm like, come on, upe
you get and like walk past the rooms and they're
still in bed, and I'm like come on, and I'm
like hurrying them up.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I was like, I am not doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You have to get yourself up so to get to
school in the morning, need to leave the house by
seven fifty five. Really, do you know what time they
got out of bed? Oh, no, seven forty five. The
alarm had been going off for like an hour, snoozing
and snoozing and snooze it.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I was like, I absolutely am not.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You can't go there.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And there's a part of me, Rache it was like
kind of wanted them to not get up, So I
could be like, oh interesting, ten fifteen Yeah, yeah, oh
you can't do it.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, they made it. They made it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They got up ten minutes, ready for ten minutes, ten
minutes right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I wouldn't have even coaxcu. I would have been like,
if I'm going to be late, I'm leaving. I don't
know what you're going to do today. You're not going
to be at school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I have absolutely no doubt that this afternoon they're going
to be your last holes because that's always what happens.
Ye when they've had a late night. If they cope
with the morning, they don't cope with the afternoon or yeah.
So anyway, this responsibility.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Versus it calls privilege.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Privilege is something that I am going to have in
lots of different things. Because they're sixteen, they often tell me, oh,
that doesn't happen for kids our age. We're sixteen, we
should have this, We shouldn't be allowed to do this,
there shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Be rules around this, blah blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm like, okay, cool, I'm happy for that, happy to
give you the privilege. However, you're gonna show me there
is reponsibility because if you're not being responsible like a
sixteen year old. Yeah, then you don't get treated like
a sixteen year old.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was like, I'm going to say, there's going to
be moments and that what is your backup? What's the
backup to it? So I feel like there might be
a few moments where they'll fail at this, then this
afternoon might be the first one.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, what's the backup to it? The backup?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It just means that you regress in steps, right, is
that what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
So if you're an asshole of somefternoon.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, So like let's use this afternoon as a scenario.
So if you're an asshole this afternoon, and I absolutely
get punished because you haven't had enough sleep and you've
gotten up with ten minutes to spare, and now you're
asking me to pay for your lunch because you had
to use your spreaking card because you didn't make any lunch.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Like, what's the repercussion of that?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, So if there is food at home to be
made into for lunch boxes, then I'm not paying for that.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
This comes out of your account.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I know about. This is the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I would have been laughing if they didn't make it
this morning, though I would have been laughing. I was like,
one hundred percent was waiting for you to go there
to say they didn't make this.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It would definitely be a I told you so.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You're going to be a seven fifty five departure.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
See you later.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They'll be running out the door after your mom and you're.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Like, oh, raage, I listened to all the drama. Where's
my drama top? Where's it? I'm like, Oh, I should
have gone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean, I would have packed myself yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But you know, you know best, you know best, you
know best. I say that Gracie all the time, you
know best.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing, but that's just me.
I would have done.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah, God, what would I know?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah,
Apodjake Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode about I a bad podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
The podcast that continually gives I was laughing about it
on the way here, going if it's not my children,
it's animals. I had to run in with an animal
on the way here. Yeah, and I was late. But
you're expecting that, You're always expecting that. I think you
told me, like, be here at one, and you know
I'll be here at two.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, I think I always have in my head. Oh,
Rachel said one, okay, cool, one thirty and probably less.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
Than a handful of time.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes, you've come early, and that's when I'm not here,
or every other time i'm here, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Yeah, one clock.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
But I know Rachel'll be another half an hour, so
carry on with what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
But then on the way here, I have run in
with the dog.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Someone else's dog, not mine.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's lost, so I go run in. You didn't run
and run into it. I've pulled over and helped it.
But the run in was that once I got it
into the car, I couldn't get it out.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I got a photo saying sorry, I'm gonna be late.
You need to just rescue this dog. The dog's in
like your foot well of your car, loves cars, just
laying there. Yeah, you're a stranger. You don't know this dog.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm quite like hesitant because I'm going up to a
strange dog, you know how you go, Oh, whoa wonder
if it's not gonna like me.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Anyway, I was just like.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hey, and then it came sort of like, oh gosh,
there's someone here. And then it's standing looking at my door,
and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I gotta get you my car.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So I just literally opened the.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Door to get my phone to ring her owner because
it had it on its collar. Yes, just jumped up,
just straighted sat there, but then stuck itself right in
the back where your feet go.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
And I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm
taking you back.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So in my head I was like, just ring and
I'll just see hopefully they'll just be home and I
just sleep and they'll just come over and yeah, that's
all well and good.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Absolutely not the case.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I then though, drop the dog back to its home,
which the lady is working in the city and the
dog is not getting out of my car.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
So then I'm going, fuck, I've got to be it.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Podcast get get aca.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
But at this stage, it's like a bit shaking. She said, Oh,
it doesn't like rain or storms. I was like, this
poor dog must be going through this all the time. Anyway,
she says, I just got to go put it out
the back in the shed and then lock the door,
and then she won't get back out.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, sure.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm also looking around at this house. Never been to
the house. I don't know who I'm talking to. I'm
thinking if they got cameras, this is gonna be fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I've got a white jumper on.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I don't actually want to carry your dog.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I'm actually clean, and so I'm in there and I'm going,
come on, trying to pull its colot.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
And then it's just literally said that. I was like, fuck,
so ring lady back, excuse me, I can't get your
dog out of my card. Like, have you got food anywhere?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'd tried Grace's afternoon tea bag. I'm shaking it going here.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I want cheese and biscuits. I'll give you cheese and biscuits.
I know cheese. Dogs can't have cheese, but I'll fucking
give it to you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Just fuck anyway, another ten minutes past us. I had
to drag it out with rope. With the rope, I
had to go on, find rope in their shed and
get the rope around its little thing and try and
drag it out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I'm going, oh, sorry, do you know what its
name was? Tinker Bell?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Tinker Bell was a thirty kilo lab that had not
had a wash in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
A really long time. Anyway, I made it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah you did late, yeah, late, but at least this
time there was a great excit.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah I did say that to you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I was like, well, it might be late, but I've
just done my good deed for the week.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yes, please don't late. You dog out again.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
No, and how about that lady that just say don't
work and stay to work, hard work.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh the god, you can just.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Drive it to my house, go round the back, find
a rope, drag it out, give it your kids afternoon tea.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Good on you mind your kids. I've got nothing on.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I can clean your house.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Am I bad mum for introducing responsibility equals privilege? Whoa, yeah,
this is a new thing, Rach, Responsibility equals privilege. Okay,
so you want to stay up later at night, Yeah,
you need to show me that you are responsible.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Enough, you'd be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, So it's good.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Last night, Rach. Ten fifteen, Amelia comes.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Down and I'm like, I want to be in bed.
There is normally a rule in our house in that
everything goes on charge at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
One of the girls has said, please, Mum, can we
go for dinner?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And I was like, oh, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
In my mind, I'm thinking, oh, they must not have
any schoolwork to do if they're suggesting going for dinner.
So we've done that, we get home, it's about eight
o'clock and they've gone, oh, yeah, we need to get
our assignment done. I was like, what you need to
start your assignment now, Like you came for dinner. Why
(05:34):
did you come for dinner knowing that you've got to
do that.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You're having to feed them.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I don't understand it, Like, yeah, I know, but they
could have been doing their work.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, I know. I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's like, I say, understand that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And so then literally ten point fifteen she comes down
right and like I can hear her still upstairs and
doing shit and then having a shower and all the rest, and.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm like okay, just let them.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Let them and I will then say to them, just
so you know, we're introducing responsibility equals privilege. So you
have come down at ten fifteen, it's a lot later
than you're supposed to do that. And so the responsibility
part is you need to show me tomorrow you get
(06:21):
yourself up. I am not coming in going come on.
They both got an alarm clock, Rach. I hear those
alarms go off again and again again and again, and
the amount of times that I'm like, come on, upe
you get and like walk past the rooms and they're
still in bed, and I'm like come on, and I'm
like hurrying them up.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I was like, I am not doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
You have to get yourself up so to get to
school in the morning, need to leave the house by
seven fifty five. Really, do you know what time they
got out of bed? Oh, no, seven forty five. The
alarm had been going off for like an hour, snoozing
and snoozing and snooze it.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I was like, I absolutely am not.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You can't go there.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I'm not going in there.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
And there's a part of me, Rache it was like
kind of wanted them to not get up, So I
could be like, oh interesting, ten fifteen Yeah, yeah, oh
you can't do it.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, they made it. They made it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
They got up ten minutes, ready for ten minutes, ten
minutes right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I wouldn't have even coaxcu. I would have been like,
if I'm going to be late, I'm leaving. I don't
know what you're going to do today. You're not going
to be at school.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I have absolutely no doubt that this afternoon they're going
to be your last holes because that's always what happens.
Ye when they've had a late night. If they cope
with the morning, they don't cope with the afternoon or yeah.
So anyway, this responsibility.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Versus it calls privilege.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Privilege is something that I am going to have in
lots of different things. Because they're sixteen, they often tell me, oh,
that doesn't happen for kids our age. We're sixteen, we
should have this, We shouldn't be allowed to do this,
there shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Be rules around this, blah blah blahlah blah.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm like, okay, cool, I'm happy for that, happy to
give you the privilege. However, you're gonna show me there
is reponsibility because if you're not being responsible like a
sixteen year old. Yeah, then you don't get treated like
a sixteen year old.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I was like, I'm going to say, there's going to
be moments and that what is your backup? What's the
backup to it? So I feel like there might be
a few moments where they'll fail at this, then this
afternoon might be the first one.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, what's the backup to it? The backup?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It just means that you regress in steps, right, is
that what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
So if you're an asshole of somefternoon.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, So like let's use this afternoon as a scenario.
So if you're an asshole this afternoon, and I absolutely
get punished because you haven't had enough sleep and you've
gotten up with ten minutes to spare, and now you're
asking me to pay for your lunch because you had
to use your spreaking card because you didn't make any lunch.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Like, what's the repercussion of that?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
No, So if there is food at home to be
made into for lunch boxes, then I'm not paying for that.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
This comes out of your account.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I know about. This is the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I would have been laughing if they didn't make it
this morning, though I would have been laughing. I was like,
one hundred percent was waiting for you to go there
to say they didn't make this.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
It would definitely be a I told you so.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You're going to be a seven fifty five departure.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
See you later.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
They'll be running out the door after your mom and you're.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Like, oh, raage, I listened to all the drama. Where's
my drama top? Where's it? I'm like, Oh, I should
have gone yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean, I would have packed myself yesterday.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But you know, you know best, you know best, you
know best. I say that Gracie all the time, you
know best.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing, but that's just me.
I would have done.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yeah, God, what would I know?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah,
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