July 27, 2025 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apoday production, Welcome back to another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Am I a Bad Mom Podcast?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And we're on Instagram too? Am I a bad mom?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hit?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Miss?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
As to when the last few days been a cracker?
I've been on fire just the shares.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't know about you, but I'm a bit sick
of social media? Like still follow us? Because am I
a bad mum for not wanting to be a part
(00:57):
of it? I actually want to talk about social media
because on a personal level, I find myself starting to
do a little like mini scroll and then I'm like, ough, look,
it doesn't make me feel good. Maybe I'm not following
the right Maybe I need to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You need to clear your algorithm.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You can clear your algorithm and then you go through
and clear out anything of your followers that you don't
feel good about anymore. But do you know what is
not going to feel good about? Social media?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Though? These poor people like the Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
My whole feed is full of anything to do with
that Coldplay concept.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I genuinely feel sorry for them. Yeah, I mean I
feel so for everyone involved.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But like, let's go towards the conspiracy part of it, right,
It's kind of a needle in the haystack. Kind of
vibe like that was huge, that entire concert, huge needle
in haystack. Yeah, I'm gonna call it out and say,
I reckon something. There has been staged. I you reckon, yes,
(02:08):
one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
How did you find the one person?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The one person or the sorry too, but the one
affair and that entire place there would have been way more,
but you found one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And he happens to be the CEO of a like
some global.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And the friend's face right next to them when they
get caught is so red, so fast, and she apparently
is the one that organized tickets. And then for Chris
Martin to call out like anyone would think they're having
an affair, Why is that the first thing that came
to your mind.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm thinking it's either like the little bit of conspiracy
behind it of going like.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Really, I just can see through it a little bit more.
Some people are really like divisive when it comes to that.
But then the other part of me goes, well, Coldplay
really isn't doing much at the moment, So that's great
publicity for them because they have done nothing but be
spoken about.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That song will go down in the like living books
of because of this. Yeah, so it's probably coldplay.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Something's got to be behind it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Think of every single person in that entire stadium, and
they went for that. Like obviously it's not right what
they were doing. No, absolutely not, but like in that
entire stadium that they're the only ones doing it, Like,
come on, the whole thing with social media, and this
is where I'm coming from, the whole thing with social
media is now those people their lives are crippled.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They can't hide.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And this is where I go into like the warning
bells is like and I really hope that they're strong
enough to pull through with this, but like this is
where people take their own lives based on being shamed
this heavy on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Remember the nurse at the where Princess Kate was, she
killed herself.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's a court case now around that because that person
took their own life of being shamed on social media
and outed on that many platforms.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's I don't know, I really understand. We put a
video on TikTok a while ago we were slammed on
It was the video around you taking your kids to
Gracie Abram Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the comments on TikTok
I even got an anti bullying message from TikTok about
(04:27):
this particular video that we put up, but rage. Honestly,
I can understand why people would feel attacked, especially if
it's personal insults and bullied online, Like I completely understand that.
I don't know what it is about me. I really
enjoyed it. I loved seeing all those comments come through
and seeing everyone argue with each other, like they were
(04:49):
the people that were agreeing, and there were the people
that were going kids shouldn't go to concerts blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah yeah, and they were all demographic other yeah,
and the demographic would have been so different.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Even my kids, They're like, Mummy, you upset, you're getting slammed.
I was like, no, I'm not upset in the slightest.
I'm really quite enjoying it. I didn't hide any of
those comments. I let them all.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not even on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Even when TikTok said they do like a like they
quarantine certain comments that they think is going to be
offensive so that they're not publicly seen unless you allow
them to be publicly seen. I was like, ticking them all. Yeah, yeah,
at least that go for God. There is definitely an
element of it doesn't really feel real.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I feel like I could go on all day about
online bullying and people feeling the need to tell each
other to kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Katie, it blows my mind. Why would anyone say that
to another human being?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, like you literally would not say that to somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I just would person. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't say
it to anything.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
But the whole thing is like this braveness, this harshness,
this key blake, worry is I really want to know
deep down, if we were sitting here in a one
on one situation, would you tell me to kill myself?
Because I can guarantee you people wouldn't. And this is
those kids at school and this inability of being able
to interact like this because I could tell you what
(06:13):
they say on these voice messages and these video messages
to each other with these horrific, horrific messages, they would
never say in person. Ever.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, it is that element of not feeling like the
real people.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, and this keyboard sort of like warrior, I'm gonna
hate on people like no other human being has the
right to tell another human being to go and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I find it horrific. Yeah, Like, and I really could
go on about this all day every day.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We shouldn't be. So this is something I heard something
along the lines of if someone can't change something in
thirty seconds, then don't say it to them. If you're
about to say something that someone can't change in thirty seconds,
then don't say it. Yeah, appearance, anything that you can't
change should not be said.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's basically going with that whole like the nine seconds.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I say like that, think before you speak, instead
of trying to control what the narrative is, or control
what people are saying about you, or control how others
are showing up, be the kind of change, meaning my actions,
be the positive change that I want to see in
others that I'm trying to control you to do and
say and be Yeah, do you know what I mean?
(07:27):
Like if we can try and take an element of
that and then help our kids with it, I think
that'd be like leaps and bounds in front of where
we are now at forty.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I also say to my kids whenever you feel the
need to say something nasty to someone, like if you've
seen something on TikTok whatever and you're wanting to send
a horrible comment. Yeah, think about what that's saying about you, Like,
what's going on with me? Yeah, to care enough about
(07:59):
what they've posted to comment something that's going to be mean? Yeah,
what is that saying about me? And how I feel
about myself? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I lead with exactly that, And then an example would be,
how does that feel in your stomach for you with
that decision that you're making. So like, I get a
lot at the moment of Gracie coming home and going, mom,
this is happening at school, and I just don't know
what to think about it, and I just don't know
what to do, and I sort of go, Okay, let's
sit here with it. Sit here with this problem, I said,
(08:29):
And let's see how it feels like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What does it feel like in your heart? What does
it feel like?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And you're tummy when you say exactly this scenario, and
she goes, it doesn't feel good, it doesn't sit well
with me. I said, Well that's usually.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The answer, babe.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No one can control who sits where, I said, because
that is mean gal behavior, I said, And do you
want to be within that mean gal behavior?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Is that who you truly are at your core?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And she's like no, And then so we lead on
the basis of feel like instead of thinking about the
logic part of the problem, we drop into so how
does it feel? What does it feel like in your heart?
What does it feel like in your tummy? Because kids actually,
like are so much more receptive to being able to
describe the feeling of a problem than they are of
(09:17):
the thinking of the resolution. I believe that's my opinion
because that's where I lead with my girls is go
to the feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Feel how does this feel to you? But going back into.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That whole you and how you react online to people.
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The other interesting thing to do as well is when
you see someone post something and your reaction.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is that small part of your inside your Yeah, everyone's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Wanting to comment. Is also going what that that person
has done or posted or has is making me wish
that I had? Is it something that's triggered me about
watching them do something that maybe I'm wanting more of
in my life. Yeah, that's an interesting one to like,
(10:04):
why is that annoying you? Is that annoying you because
that's where you want to be?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is there something that they're doing that I should be
doing for myself?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, and that's a great way of looking at again
going back to your own social media feed of like
not being afraid to cleansing your own Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's just using Instagram for instance.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I don't understand TikTok, but like in terms of the
people that you are following, like in the present moment,
are they bringing you joy and constructive sort of like
oh yes, like is it lighting you up?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Or is it dimming your light?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And then if you're at a stage where it's dimming
your light instead of lighting you up, it might mean
that you don't have to go in and unfollow everyone,
but you could just go in and mute it for now,
just put yourself on a hiatus, like a brain.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did this, right? I did this with the Kardashians, right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I recognized that I was getting annoyed seeing some of
their posts. So I sat with that, and when why
am I getting annoyed at seeing some of their posts?
I'm getting annoyed because I want a new car, I
want nice things, I want more money. And I sat
with that and I unfollowed them for a while, and
then I was like, Okay, cool, I'm ready to follow
(11:19):
them again because I actually find some of the content
sometimes interesting, and now it's more, Oh that looks like
a nice place to go on holiday. Oh wow, that's
a beautiful beat, and I can now go okay, cool.
So I need to just probably work a bit harder
and be a bit kinder to myself and understand that
it's okay to want more.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah yeah, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the positive
out of it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But do something about it, Like I'm not going to sit.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
On the behind it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You go, oh, it's so unfair. Why aren't I going
on nice holidays?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Do you know? Because we could all do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, So that's the example of I felt like I
needed to unfollow them. It wasn't making me feel good. Yeah,
but it wasn't making me feel good about myself. It
was nothing to do with them.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
No disrespect to Kardashians, of course, but realistic. Yeah, it's
not real life, and it's not real our lives.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
We can still find beautiful beaches and we can still
do all of that. But like for me, naturally, I
don't follow that because I don't look and go, wow,
you inspire me to be a better person, You inspire
me to want to alter my habits within my own
life to be able to be you, because there's nothing
about you that I want to be, do you know
what I mean? That's a great thing at least you recognize.
(12:34):
And it's that first piece of recognition of going like,
oh yeah, no, see that doesn't feel.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right right now, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, you might not have to completely cleanse the whole thing,
but just have the courage to mute the noise for now.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And what's interesting about that. I heard something that Kylie
Jenner said. This is a while ago, and she talked
about having everything. Basically, she was like, I still have
mental health issues that you do. I still get anxiety
like you do. The thing that differs for me gets
that I've got lots of money, and she said, and
that's exciting. For about ten minutes, she goes, I will
(13:12):
turn up to a house that's on for sale and
it's a mansion and it's beautiful and it's everything people
could dream of, and I buy it because I've got
enough money, and I'm excited for about ten minutes and
then I'm not excited. And I was like, that's such
an interesting thoughts anyone that's like Oh, they've got lots
(13:34):
of money, and wouldn't it be nice just to jump
on a plane if any day and you know, we
do today, let's go to Barbados. Just remember all the
things that are exciting for us, holidays that we've got booked,
dinners in nice restaurants, whatever it might be that you
get excited for and look forward to. If you could
do that any day of the week and money was
(13:56):
no object, it wouldn't be exciting.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, it's a good way of looking at it. All
the money in the world won't buy happiness. We all
know that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Okay, people that just leaving the planet of their own choice,
that are usually very well off, they're things that I
look at and go but why.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Would they do that? Why would they take their own
life and they had all.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Of this because there's nothing to look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, So what we're doing is trying to actually just
bring it back to a parenting perspective.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Help yourself to be able to help others.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Help yourself first, put your life jacket on before putting
on other people's life jackets.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I actually really hate
Apoday production, Welcome back to another episode.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Am I a Bad Mom Podcast?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And we're on Instagram too? Am I a bad mom?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hit?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Miss?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
As to when the last few days been a cracker?
I've been on fire just the shares.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't know about you, but I'm a bit sick
of social media? Like still follow us? Because am I
a bad mum for not wanting to be a part
(00:57):
of it? I actually want to talk about social media
because on a personal level, I find myself starting to
do a little like mini scroll and then I'm like, ough, look,
it doesn't make me feel good. Maybe I'm not following
the right Maybe I need to.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You need to clear your algorithm.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You can clear your algorithm and then you go through
and clear out anything of your followers that you don't
feel good about anymore. But do you know what is
not going to feel good about? Social media?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Though? These poor people like the Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
My whole feed is full of anything to do with
that Coldplay concept.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I genuinely feel sorry for them. Yeah, I mean I
feel so for everyone involved.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But like, let's go towards the conspiracy part of it, right,
It's kind of a needle in the haystack. Kind of
vibe like that was huge, that entire concert, huge needle
in haystack. Yeah, I'm gonna call it out and say,
I reckon something. There has been staged. I you reckon, yes,
(02:08):
one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
How did you find the one person?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The one person or the sorry too, but the one
affair and that entire place there would have been way more,
but you found one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
And he happens to be the CEO of a like
some global.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
And the friend's face right next to them when they
get caught is so red, so fast, and she apparently
is the one that organized tickets. And then for Chris
Martin to call out like anyone would think they're having
an affair, Why is that the first thing that came
to your mind.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm thinking it's either like the little bit of conspiracy
behind it of going like.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Really, I just can see through it a little bit more.
Some people are really like divisive when it comes to that.
But then the other part of me goes, well, Coldplay
really isn't doing much at the moment, So that's great
publicity for them because they have done nothing but be
spoken about.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That song will go down in the like living books
of because of this. Yeah, so it's probably coldplay.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Something's got to be behind it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Think of every single person in that entire stadium, and
they went for that. Like obviously it's not right what
they were doing. No, absolutely not, but like in that
entire stadium that they're the only ones doing it, Like,
come on, the whole thing with social media, and this
is where I'm coming from, the whole thing with social
media is now those people their lives are crippled.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
They can't hide.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And this is where I go into like the warning
bells is like and I really hope that they're strong
enough to pull through with this, but like this is
where people take their own lives based on being shamed
this heavy on social media.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Remember the nurse at the where Princess Kate was, she
killed herself.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There's a court case now around that because that person
took their own life of being shamed on social media
and outed on that many platforms.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's I don't know, I really understand. We put a
video on TikTok a while ago we were slammed on
It was the video around you taking your kids to
Gracie Abram Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the comments on TikTok
I even got an anti bullying message from TikTok about
(04:27):
this particular video that we put up, but rage. Honestly,
I can understand why people would feel attacked, especially if
it's personal insults and bullied online, Like I completely understand that.
I don't know what it is about me. I really
enjoyed it. I loved seeing all those comments come through
and seeing everyone argue with each other, like they were
(04:49):
the people that were agreeing, and there were the people
that were going kids shouldn't go to concerts blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah yeah, and they were all demographic other yeah,
and the demographic would have been so different.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Even my kids, They're like, Mummy, you upset, you're getting slammed.
I was like, no, I'm not upset in the slightest.
I'm really quite enjoying it. I didn't hide any of
those comments. I let them all.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'm not even on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Even when TikTok said they do like a like they
quarantine certain comments that they think is going to be
offensive so that they're not publicly seen unless you allow
them to be publicly seen. I was like, ticking them all. Yeah, yeah,
at least that go for God. There is definitely an
element of it doesn't really feel real.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I feel like I could go on all day about
online bullying and people feeling the need to tell each
other to kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Katie, it blows my mind. Why would anyone say that
to another human being?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, like you literally would not say that to somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I just would person. I just wouldn't. I wouldn't say
it to anything.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
But the whole thing is like this braveness, this harshness,
this key blake, worry is I really want to know
deep down, if we were sitting here in a one
on one situation, would you tell me to kill myself?
Because I can guarantee you people wouldn't. And this is
those kids at school and this inability of being able
to interact like this because I could tell you what
(06:13):
they say on these voice messages and these video messages
to each other with these horrific, horrific messages, they would
never say in person. Ever.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, it is that element of not feeling like the
real people.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, and this keyboard sort of like warrior, I'm gonna
hate on people like no other human being has the
right to tell another human being to go and kill themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I find it horrific. Yeah, Like, and I really could
go on about this all day every day.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We shouldn't be. So this is something I heard something
along the lines of if someone can't change something in
thirty seconds, then don't say it to them. If you're
about to say something that someone can't change in thirty seconds,
then don't say it. Yeah, appearance, anything that you can't
change should not be said.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's basically going with that whole like the nine seconds.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And I say like that, think before you speak, instead
of trying to control what the narrative is, or control
what people are saying about you, or control how others
are showing up, be the kind of change, meaning my actions,
be the positive change that I want to see in
others that I'm trying to control you to do and
say and be Yeah, do you know what I mean?
(07:27):
Like if we can try and take an element of
that and then help our kids with it, I think
that'd be like leaps and bounds in front of where
we are now at forty.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I also say to my kids whenever you feel the
need to say something nasty to someone, like if you've
seen something on TikTok whatever and you're wanting to send
a horrible comment. Yeah, think about what that's saying about you, Like,
what's going on with me? Yeah, to care enough about
(07:59):
what they've posted to comment something that's going to be mean? Yeah,
what is that saying about me? And how I feel
about myself? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I lead with exactly that, And then an example would be,
how does that feel in your stomach for you with
that decision that you're making. So like, I get a
lot at the moment of Gracie coming home and going, mom,
this is happening at school, and I just don't know
what to think about it, and I just don't know
what to do, and I sort of go, Okay, let's
sit here with it. Sit here with this problem, I said,
(08:29):
And let's see how it feels like.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What does it feel like in your heart? What does
it feel like?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And you're tummy when you say exactly this scenario, and
she goes, it doesn't feel good, it doesn't sit well
with me. I said, Well that's usually.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
The answer, babe.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
No one can control who sits where, I said, because
that is mean gal behavior, I said, And do you
want to be within that mean gal behavior?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Is that who you truly are at your core?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
And she's like no, And then so we lead on
the basis of feel like instead of thinking about the
logic part of the problem, we drop into so how
does it feel? What does it feel like in your heart?
What does it feel like in your tummy? Because kids actually,
like are so much more receptive to being able to
describe the feeling of a problem than they are of
(09:17):
the thinking of the resolution. I believe that's my opinion
because that's where I lead with my girls is go
to the feeling.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Feel how does this feel to you? But going back into.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That whole you and how you react online to people.
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
The other interesting thing to do as well is when
you see someone post something and your reaction.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Is that small part of your inside your Yeah, everyone's.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Wanting to comment. Is also going what that that person
has done or posted or has is making me wish
that I had? Is it something that's triggered me about
watching them do something that maybe I'm wanting more of
in my life. Yeah, that's an interesting one to like,
(10:04):
why is that annoying you? Is that annoying you because
that's where you want to be?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Is there something that they're doing that I should be
doing for myself?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, and that's a great way of looking at again
going back to your own social media feed of like
not being afraid to cleansing your own Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
It's just using Instagram for instance.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I don't understand TikTok, but like in terms of the
people that you are following, like in the present moment,
are they bringing you joy and constructive sort of like
oh yes, like is it lighting you up?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Or is it dimming your light?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And then if you're at a stage where it's dimming
your light instead of lighting you up, it might mean
that you don't have to go in and unfollow everyone,
but you could just go in and mute it for now,
just put yourself on a hiatus, like a brain.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Did this, right? I did this with the Kardashians, right.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
I recognized that I was getting annoyed seeing some of
their posts. So I sat with that, and when why
am I getting annoyed at seeing some of their posts?
I'm getting annoyed because I want a new car, I
want nice things, I want more money. And I sat
with that and I unfollowed them for a while, and
then I was like, Okay, cool, I'm ready to follow
(11:19):
them again because I actually find some of the content
sometimes interesting, and now it's more, Oh that looks like
a nice place to go on holiday. Oh wow, that's
a beautiful beat, and I can now go okay, cool.
So I need to just probably work a bit harder
and be a bit kinder to myself and understand that
it's okay to want more.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah yeah, it's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the positive
out of it.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
But do something about it, Like I'm not going to sit.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
On the behind it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You go, oh, it's so unfair. Why aren't I going
on nice holidays?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Do you know? Because we could all do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, So that's the example of I felt like I
needed to unfollow them. It wasn't making me feel good. Yeah,
but it wasn't making me feel good about myself. It
was nothing to do with them.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
No disrespect to Kardashians, of course, but realistic. Yeah, it's
not real life, and it's not real our lives.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
We can still find beautiful beaches and we can still
do all of that. But like for me, naturally, I
don't follow that because I don't look and go, wow,
you inspire me to be a better person, You inspire
me to want to alter my habits within my own
life to be able to be you, because there's nothing
about you that I want to be, do you know
what I mean? That's a great thing at least you recognize.
(12:34):
And it's that first piece of recognition of going like,
oh yeah, no, see that doesn't feel.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Right right now, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yeah, you might not have to completely cleanse the whole thing,
but just have the courage to mute the noise for now.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And what's interesting about that. I heard something that Kylie
Jenner said. This is a while ago, and she talked
about having everything. Basically, she was like, I still have
mental health issues that you do. I still get anxiety
like you do. The thing that differs for me gets
that I've got lots of money, and she said, and
that's exciting. For about ten minutes, she goes, I will
(13:12):
turn up to a house that's on for sale and
it's a mansion and it's beautiful and it's everything people
could dream of, and I buy it because I've got
enough money, and I'm excited for about ten minutes and
then I'm not excited. And I was like, that's such
an interesting thoughts anyone that's like Oh, they've got lots
(13:34):
of money, and wouldn't it be nice just to jump
on a plane if any day and you know, we
do today, let's go to Barbados. Just remember all the
things that are exciting for us, holidays that we've got booked,
dinners in nice restaurants, whatever it might be that you
get excited for and look forward to. If you could
do that any day of the week and money was
(13:56):
no object, it wouldn't be exciting.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, it's a good way of looking at it. All
the money in the world won't buy happiness. We all
know that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Okay, people that just leaving the planet of their own choice,
that are usually very well off, they're things that I
look at and go but why.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Would they do that? Why would they take their own
life and they had all.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Of this because there's nothing to look forward to it.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, So what we're doing is trying to actually just
bring it back to a parenting perspective.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Help yourself to be able to help others.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Help yourself first, put your life jacket on before putting
on other people's life jackets.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I actually really hate
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