August 3, 2025 • 12 mins
This is a controversial topic, but Rach wants to know why our schooling is still the same as when we went 30 years ago? Katie think AI is going to take all the jobs we are preparing them for, and Rach has a hilarious solution to what work they should go in to.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode of Am I a Bad Mum? Podcast?
It's the question we constantly ask, am my a bad mum?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But am I?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I would also like to put it out there, am
I a bad kid? Sometimes a lot?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was like, don't even get me started. I have
some guys over doing the backyard stuff for me today.
And he is not a dad and he's not like
what I would imagine the demographic of this podcast is.
He was talking to me about something and he goes, oh,
you're going to be around today and I was like, no,
I've got to just duck over. And then I just
(01:00):
could feel the sarcasm about to pour out of my
body and I was like, no, it's gonna pop over
to tramp side and get my daughter's laptop fixed because
she poured water all over it at school. And he
just like burst out laughing and goes, oh gosh. She's
like I can't wait to hear about this one on
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I said to my husband day yesterday, I said, oh,
Rachel's got to go to Apple in the morning and
get their laptop fixed. And he went, oh, whoy what
happened to her laptop? I went no, Gracie's laptop water
damage and he went, oh, already, she's only just started
high school. I was like, yeah, I know, because we've
had two laptops replaced. One got komb Butcher. How privileged
(01:43):
Kim Butcher was spilled on the keyboard of the Apple Mac.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
K Butcher. Sorry, there's somewhere in it. She mentions, I
won't go through all of them. She mentions in there,
please don't tell Katie because I know that both of
her girls had to get their laptops waist. Yeah, And
I just like I died because I was like, oh,
we've talked about it. Because when we were in there
(02:06):
and we went through the process and we bought the laptop,
I said, just for the record, I said, Katie's girls
have had these replaced twice. Once you do this, just once,
I said, I'm not replacing it. You will use the
ones that you get from school, and you'll land it.
So what do you think she's doing right now? She's
lending the school one four, one hundred and fifty dollars
later because we've got Apple Care.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean, I was gonna say thank goodness for insurance,
but also not thank goodness for insurance. Because what I found, well,
first of all, you pay an excess.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well the excess even for Apple care because it's accidental,
like basically I did it to it intentionally, Gracie did.
It's not their fault. So there's different excesses. Yeah, we
missed that. And the fine print. Yeah yeah, yeah, no
fine print.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There care, no, no, because spilling water on a laptop must.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Happen all the time, all the time, so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of course they're not just going to have them covered
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Stupid sixty dollars fucking water bottle that she had to have.
I said, why was it inside your bag? Yeah? She
never puts it inside her bag. She puts it in
the water bottle slot on the side of her bag normally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Because they leave everywhere. Hurry, yeah, such a hurry. Throw
it in with the laptop. We'll just getting the mum.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We'll get another one.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
She'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But don't worry about it, guys, what's mom doing? She's
got nothing on Actually, get the whole bottle, tip it
all over it. Am I a bad mom for not
liking how we teach our kids anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I feel like school is in such an old fashioned place.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It is, well, it is you know what brought this up?
Those a couple of things. One is Elsie came home
needed homework help. We were allowed to use the like research.
Remember the days where we had to like if you
had a research something, you'd have to get out like
the book and like read the book and like run
your fingers across the paragraph. Oh yeah, there you go.
That's what we want. Now it's like, yes, your research yet,
(04:09):
put in fucking Google go for gold. But it was
something that I just triggered this memory of like why
are you still learning about this? I've never used Captain
cook in anything of my entire life. Why are you
now learning about it? It's just a cookie cutter of
what we learn thirty years ago. What are we doing?
(04:34):
Like I get that we've got oh there's a new
program because we've got AI coding and shit like that.
Yeah cool. So when we're doing that, why are we
not upgrading? It feels like everything is upgrading in terms
of like around us, which some of it's not positive,
some is, some isn't except for our schooling curriculum.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And if you think about where life is now and
even the jobs right, so look at ai. AI for example,
is doing everything like Chat GPT is like Google on
fucking acid, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You don't even need friends anymore. We just got chat GBT.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and so why are we still learning some of
those old school things. When we went to school, we
needed math right because we were never going to be
in a situation, or so we thought at the time,
we would have a calculator on hand at all times.
We now do. We have a calculator in our bags.
(05:31):
We use our phones more than we've got Apple per
We don't even need a handbag. We take our phones.
That's all we need is to take our phones everywhere.
My husband gets into his car and starts his car
with his phone. That's all you need. And so why
are we so outdated? Even the jobs that they're going
(05:51):
to be doing in the future, we're not equipping them
for those jobs with what we're teaching them. In school,
Holly had her English teacher was talking about she had
to do a written assessment, and then her teacher was
talking about the that she didn't put paragraphs in and
I was like, yeah, she needs to do that, blah
blah blah. But then at the same time, I was like,
but she never handwrites anything. Everything is done on the computer.
(06:15):
I do think we need to be able to spell
and yeah, things like that, But when they're doing all
of their schoolwork on a computer, they're not learning to
spell because the computer does it all for them.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I'm going to bring it back with that one because
I can literally hear my grade seven teacher who is
now an amazing family friend and is like a very
high up in the schooling system in New South Wales
and all the rest, and she's amazing. We bounce this
conversation off of each other. It would almost like be
from a for me a coaching perspective, right of going, like, well,
(06:48):
in order to be able to sprint, we need to
work on your gate and then from there we work
on a little bit of like you're running, and then
from your running we can build in speed and then
from there you'll sprint. Right, So stripping that back into
our curriculum, I understand where comes from in the sense
of English maths, a little bit of science in that
(07:09):
base level of a human being, of understanding punctuation, grammar,
and I get that we can just pop it in
and it just will formulate. I get I get all
of that. But I think like somewhere along the lines.
If we removed all this base level of learning, there
would have to be like I guess implications somewhere. So
I can hear her literally screaming at me, going Rachel,
(07:31):
so I do understand that. I just think that with
what we're tackling right now, with the number of like
neurodiverse learning difficulties that come with all of these areas,
like we should be evolving, like with like our kids
and what they need and their requirements and even adapting
classrooms and how we deliver it. And this just gould
(07:55):
be so much more. And there was a few things
that got me to this point, but there was one
the other day which is quite funny. Leo, my nephew.
He's only four, so he's not at school yet. This
is where it's like triggered that old school memory was.
And I'm just going to put a disclaimer out. He's
fine and there was no dramas and he did not
there was nothing dangerous go on. But he was right
near our fire and we have an open fireplace, so
(08:18):
there's no door on it. Like you know, it's like,
would you call that old school podcast? Backs me sound
like I let my four year old and nephew free
range near an open file in my Victorian house. I don't,
I promise, but he was over there. He did something
and he was like whoa, Like it's sort of scared him.
(08:39):
And I had a laugh because we were all sitting around.
I was like, oh, I remember, no, Leo, don't worry,
just stop, drop and roll. And then I was like
all of my like my siblings and you know, my
sister and everyone just LOLd and was like strop, drop
and roll. And I was like, isn't that what we
learned if you were set on fire? Drop and roll?
And I'm like, yeah, but that was like thirty years ago.
(09:01):
I was like, but it's still so relevant. Yeah. So
there was set things like that goes yeah, like maybe
that could carry over because why would.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We yeah yeah, yeah, like get in the carpet, roll
yourself up in the carpet.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, I said, well, if you're at school, what are
you going to teach them? What are you going to
teach kids if they catch on fire? Like and then
it started from there and then there was like slip
slop slap, remember slip slop slop yep, slip on no
wait fuck slip slop slap slap. How did it? There's
like something about a hat. It was about hat sunscreen
(09:40):
and something else. I don't know, but it slip slops up.
That's all I remember. And I was like, yeah, I
remember sun safe, slip stops up. Yeah. If you're gonna
catch on fire, stop drop roll? Yeah what is now? Like?
If we over complicate this stuff, they're just gonna burn
to death.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's a bit of a hopeless feeling, to be honest,
because I feel like we're not teaching them the obvious
stuff like that, like normal life stuff. We are teaching
them old fashioned schooling, which they're never going to need
in a world where AI is taking over and all
the jobs are completely going to change.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But this is my thing. It's like it came down
to exactly that they don't know how to save themselves
if they're on fire, but then they know about Captain
Cook and the first like what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Algebra? An algebra?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Algebra? Like if you're really smart at MASS, I'd say, yeah,
take algebra. But if you're in there going like I
love to tell stories and chat, I'd be like, hey,
what about podcasting?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, well, our business, as you know, RAG does do
a schools program where we go into schools and we
teach kids how to podcast you. Yeah, but do you
know how many people are doing your rage? How many
schools have we got maybe like five or six? Yeah,
there are thousands of schools. They're not there yet. Everyone
does a podcast. Yeah, they're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But then I think, like that about from the base
level of English, Yes, they've gone on like the base
level of English, so like punctuation, spelling, grammar, how to
construct a story, so what it looks like from start, middle, finish,
all of that stuff, but then elevated into podcasting. How
do you tell it? Like what are you going to
put into it? Like all of those other things that
would then elevate different areas you know, not necessarily content creation,
(11:23):
but like you know, there's so much in it. But
we're just still on James Cook.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just quickly on jobs that we think are going to
get taken over by AI. Well, first of all, there's
heaps of them already. Even in our business we use
the AI a lot. However, I was talking to a
friend who's a doctor, he's an anithesis, yes, and he said,
I think I'm pretty safe. I was like, I don't
know that you are, because if you know, this is
(11:50):
a trust thing, this will happen at some point, probably
not in our lifetime, but it will happen. Right. What's
his job, Right, He works out levels of medications that
you need based on your medical background, your procedure, and
your size. Right, So I'm going to do that. What
(12:12):
you think AI can't do that, I do think that
better than human.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I show you one job that AI is not going
to take over. Poledancer.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, kids, all right, you two occupations you could be
thinking of. You're either gonna learn to nail AI or
you are going to be a pole dancer.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
There's numerous averagues that you can but I can't see
AI take you over that
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome back to another episode of Am I a Bad Mum? Podcast?
It's the question we constantly ask, am my a bad mum?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
But am I?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I would also like to put it out there, am
I a bad kid? Sometimes a lot?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was like, don't even get me started. I have
some guys over doing the backyard stuff for me today.
And he is not a dad and he's not like
what I would imagine the demographic of this podcast is.
He was talking to me about something and he goes, oh,
you're going to be around today and I was like, no,
I've got to just duck over. And then I just
(01:00):
could feel the sarcasm about to pour out of my
body and I was like, no, it's gonna pop over
to tramp side and get my daughter's laptop fixed because
she poured water all over it at school. And he
just like burst out laughing and goes, oh gosh. She's
like I can't wait to hear about this one on
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I said to my husband day yesterday, I said, oh,
Rachel's got to go to Apple in the morning and
get their laptop fixed. And he went, oh, whoy what
happened to her laptop? I went no, Gracie's laptop water
damage and he went, oh, already, she's only just started
high school. I was like, yeah, I know, because we've
had two laptops replaced. One got komb Butcher. How privileged
(01:43):
Kim Butcher was spilled on the keyboard of the Apple Mac.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
K Butcher. Sorry, there's somewhere in it. She mentions, I
won't go through all of them. She mentions in there,
please don't tell Katie because I know that both of
her girls had to get their laptops waist. Yeah, And
I just like I died because I was like, oh,
we've talked about it. Because when we were in there
(02:06):
and we went through the process and we bought the laptop,
I said, just for the record, I said, Katie's girls
have had these replaced twice. Once you do this, just once,
I said, I'm not replacing it. You will use the
ones that you get from school, and you'll land it.
So what do you think she's doing right now? She's
lending the school one four, one hundred and fifty dollars
later because we've got Apple Care.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I mean, I was gonna say thank goodness for insurance,
but also not thank goodness for insurance. Because what I found, well,
first of all, you pay an excess.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well the excess even for Apple care because it's accidental,
like basically I did it to it intentionally, Gracie did.
It's not their fault. So there's different excesses. Yeah, we
missed that. And the fine print. Yeah yeah, yeah, no
fine print.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
There care, no, no, because spilling water on a laptop must.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Happen all the time, all the time, so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of course they're not just going to have them covered
for you.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Stupid sixty dollars fucking water bottle that she had to have.
I said, why was it inside your bag? Yeah? She
never puts it inside her bag. She puts it in
the water bottle slot on the side of her bag normally.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Because they leave everywhere. Hurry, yeah, such a hurry. Throw
it in with the laptop. We'll just getting the mum.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We'll get another one.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
She'll fix it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But don't worry about it, guys, what's mom doing? She's
got nothing on Actually, get the whole bottle, tip it
all over it. Am I a bad mom for not
liking how we teach our kids anymore?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I feel like school is in such an old fashioned place.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It is, well, it is you know what brought this up?
Those a couple of things. One is Elsie came home
needed homework help. We were allowed to use the like research.
Remember the days where we had to like if you
had a research something, you'd have to get out like
the book and like read the book and like run
your fingers across the paragraph. Oh yeah, there you go.
That's what we want. Now it's like, yes, your research yet,
(04:09):
put in fucking Google go for gold. But it was
something that I just triggered this memory of like why
are you still learning about this? I've never used Captain
cook in anything of my entire life. Why are you
now learning about it? It's just a cookie cutter of
what we learn thirty years ago. What are we doing?
(04:34):
Like I get that we've got oh there's a new
program because we've got AI coding and shit like that.
Yeah cool. So when we're doing that, why are we
not upgrading? It feels like everything is upgrading in terms
of like around us, which some of it's not positive,
some is, some isn't except for our schooling curriculum.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
And if you think about where life is now and
even the jobs right, so look at ai. AI for example,
is doing everything like Chat GPT is like Google on
fucking acid, Like.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You don't even need friends anymore. We just got chat GBT.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and so why are we still learning some of
those old school things. When we went to school, we
needed math right because we were never going to be
in a situation, or so we thought at the time,
we would have a calculator on hand at all times.
We now do. We have a calculator in our bags.
(05:31):
We use our phones more than we've got Apple per
We don't even need a handbag. We take our phones.
That's all we need is to take our phones everywhere.
My husband gets into his car and starts his car
with his phone. That's all you need. And so why
are we so outdated? Even the jobs that they're going
(05:51):
to be doing in the future, we're not equipping them
for those jobs with what we're teaching them. In school,
Holly had her English teacher was talking about she had
to do a written assessment, and then her teacher was
talking about the that she didn't put paragraphs in and
I was like, yeah, she needs to do that, blah
blah blah. But then at the same time, I was like,
but she never handwrites anything. Everything is done on the computer.
(06:15):
I do think we need to be able to spell
and yeah, things like that, But when they're doing all
of their schoolwork on a computer, they're not learning to
spell because the computer does it all for them.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I'm going to bring it back with that one because
I can literally hear my grade seven teacher who is
now an amazing family friend and is like a very
high up in the schooling system in New South Wales
and all the rest, and she's amazing. We bounce this
conversation off of each other. It would almost like be
from a for me a coaching perspective, right of going, like, well,
(06:48):
in order to be able to sprint, we need to
work on your gate and then from there we work
on a little bit of like you're running, and then
from your running we can build in speed and then
from there you'll sprint. Right, So stripping that back into
our curriculum, I understand where comes from in the sense
of English maths, a little bit of science in that
(07:09):
base level of a human being, of understanding punctuation, grammar,
and I get that we can just pop it in
and it just will formulate. I get I get all
of that. But I think like somewhere along the lines.
If we removed all this base level of learning, there
would have to be like I guess implications somewhere. So
I can hear her literally screaming at me, going Rachel,
(07:31):
so I do understand that. I just think that with
what we're tackling right now, with the number of like
neurodiverse learning difficulties that come with all of these areas,
like we should be evolving, like with like our kids
and what they need and their requirements and even adapting
classrooms and how we deliver it. And this just gould
(07:55):
be so much more. And there was a few things
that got me to this point, but there was one
the other day which is quite funny. Leo, my nephew.
He's only four, so he's not at school yet. This
is where it's like triggered that old school memory was.
And I'm just going to put a disclaimer out. He's
fine and there was no dramas and he did not
there was nothing dangerous go on. But he was right
near our fire and we have an open fireplace, so
(08:18):
there's no door on it. Like you know, it's like,
would you call that old school podcast? Backs me sound
like I let my four year old and nephew free
range near an open file in my Victorian house. I don't,
I promise, but he was over there. He did something
and he was like whoa, Like it's sort of scared him.
(08:39):
And I had a laugh because we were all sitting around.
I was like, oh, I remember, no, Leo, don't worry,
just stop, drop and roll. And then I was like
all of my like my siblings and you know, my
sister and everyone just LOLd and was like strop, drop
and roll. And I was like, isn't that what we
learned if you were set on fire? Drop and roll?
And I'm like, yeah, but that was like thirty years ago.
(09:01):
I was like, but it's still so relevant. Yeah. So
there was set things like that goes yeah, like maybe
that could carry over because why would.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We yeah yeah, yeah, like get in the carpet, roll
yourself up in the carpet.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well, I said, well, if you're at school, what are
you going to teach them? What are you going to
teach kids if they catch on fire? Like and then
it started from there and then there was like slip
slop slap, remember slip slop slop yep, slip on no
wait fuck slip slop slap slap. How did it? There's
like something about a hat. It was about hat sunscreen
(09:40):
and something else. I don't know, but it slip slops up.
That's all I remember. And I was like, yeah, I
remember sun safe, slip stops up. Yeah. If you're gonna
catch on fire, stop drop roll? Yeah what is now? Like?
If we over complicate this stuff, they're just gonna burn
to death.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's a bit of a hopeless feeling, to be honest,
because I feel like we're not teaching them the obvious
stuff like that, like normal life stuff. We are teaching
them old fashioned schooling, which they're never going to need
in a world where AI is taking over and all
the jobs are completely going to change.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But this is my thing. It's like it came down
to exactly that they don't know how to save themselves
if they're on fire, but then they know about Captain
Cook and the first like what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Algebra? An algebra?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Algebra? Like if you're really smart at MASS, I'd say, yeah,
take algebra. But if you're in there going like I
love to tell stories and chat, I'd be like, hey,
what about podcasting?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, well, our business, as you know, RAG does do
a schools program where we go into schools and we
teach kids how to podcast you. Yeah, but do you
know how many people are doing your rage? How many
schools have we got maybe like five or six? Yeah,
there are thousands of schools. They're not there yet. Everyone
does a podcast. Yeah, they're not there yet.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But then I think, like that about from the base
level of English, Yes, they've gone on like the base
level of English, so like punctuation, spelling, grammar, how to
construct a story, so what it looks like from start, middle, finish,
all of that stuff, but then elevated into podcasting. How
do you tell it? Like what are you going to
put into it? Like all of those other things that
would then elevate different areas you know, not necessarily content creation,
(11:23):
but like you know, there's so much in it. But
we're just still on James Cook.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Just quickly on jobs that we think are going to
get taken over by AI. Well, first of all, there's
heaps of them already. Even in our business we use
the AI a lot. However, I was talking to a
friend who's a doctor, he's an anithesis, yes, and he said,
I think I'm pretty safe. I was like, I don't
know that you are, because if you know, this is
(11:50):
a trust thing, this will happen at some point, probably
not in our lifetime, but it will happen. Right. What's
his job, Right, He works out levels of medications that
you need based on your medical background, your procedure, and
your size. Right, So I'm going to do that. What
(12:12):
you think AI can't do that, I do think that
better than human.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I show you one job that AI is not going
to take over. Poledancer.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Okay, kids, all right, you two occupations you could be
thinking of. You're either gonna learn to nail AI or
you are going to be a pole dancer.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
There's numerous averagues that you can but I can't see
AI take you over that
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