August 14, 2025 • 10 mins
Katie is positive she made vegetarian gyoza for her veggie kids and is so angry with them for not eating it. Only to realise that they were.......pork. Another parenting fail! And she did not own it!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome back to am I a Bad Mum Podcast. I
feel like mom's nationwide are all in the thick of
it at the moment, and it's that battle of going, well,
I'm trying my best, but I'm also human. Yeah, and
I'm also I didn't have a manual. I'm just trying
(00:43):
to navigate it from being a human being. I actually
saw a counselor last week. Rage and I started a
conversation about an argument i'd had with the girls, and
I gave her, like their heads up. I said, just
to let you know, you're not going to agree with
any of what I did, and I don't agree with
any of what I did or said because none of
it is what i'd be telling someone else to be
(01:04):
doing in that situation. She went, I've got no judgment,
she said, I can write down what I think you
should have done, but at the end of the day,
you're a human being, yeah, with a human experience in
the moment, So you did what you needed to do.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So there you go, everyone, you did what you needed
to do. Whatever in the moment, yelling you did this
morning or saying things that you regret, it was what
you needed to do.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I think it's how you resolve it. For me that
it's the resolution process. Everyone's going to have anger, Everyone's
going to have fights, Everyone's going to have a disagreement.
That's natural part of it, including us with children. This
is where I'm going with it. I think it's the
resolution part. Yeah, still with your child, Like so if
your child is old enough, even the ones that still
(01:52):
just understand big feelings. So it's like acknowledging and you know, apologizing.
It's the resolution part that changes because that also educates
our kids to understand that there are going to be
hard times. There are going to be times where you're
going to disagree with each other. It's how you resolve
it that's the important part. And be willing to resolve it.
(02:12):
I mean, that's probably if I'm being really honest, that's
where I struggle. Struggle big time is to go in
and say sorry and explain it in a way that
they understand that you're human, that you did explode, But
do you understand where I got to and how I
got there. For them to be able to understand and
see what their actions were a part of it, And
(02:35):
it's really interesting to listen sometimes harder said that. You know,
I find it hard to just sit and listen to
them grill you on how they were feeling about.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It about the situation.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, because Elsa and I that's a constant thing we
blow up. But the resolution part is she's so articulate
with how she feels.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You also said to your counselor, please don't judge me
on this.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If you're going to start all that, he's going to
judge you the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I knew she wasn't going to, but I just wanted
to give you the heads up. I know this is
not the right thing to do, is what I was
basically saying.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, like I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It out loud now, and I know how fucking crazy
this is going to sound out a loud when I
say it, So just don't judge me on okay, just
hold space for me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, I told you about how crazy I am.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But do you know what she said, I should absolutely
think you did the right thing. You did what you
needed to do in the moment, and that was a
human experience.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know what, speaking to another mum over the weekend
and I had gone over sort of like the a
four piece of paper that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I had left for what my kids were doing.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It was full an a four piece of paper nuery
Thursday to Sunday, And she went, don't you feel like
term three is one of the busiest terms out of
the whole year. I just can't keep up, Like I
genuinely have no calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They have it all.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it's all about them. It's all about them.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's a really old group of men that are playing
like futsal, and they're like in their sixties and seventies.
On a Sunday morning as I'm sitting on my ass
just drinking coffee watching my child.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Train for netball, and I was like, I'm just going
to go out there. I'm going to reverse them.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I can't play any form of soccer or footsool, just
for the record, but I was like, look at you
lazy sod, get off your ass.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look at the men they're running around. There's seventy do
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Just going back to the it being all about the kids,
is that I was getting ready for work the other
day and I didn't have any meetings or anything really
important going on, and I went, I'm just going to
wear active where today and then I feel to myself,
what am I doing after work?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Kids?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I was like, doesn't really matter if I look good
or not. Like I'm literally it's all about them. I
can wear whatever, just be comfortable. Am I bad mum
for not realizing what I was feeding them?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Is this like an ongoing thing? Is this like just
for one weekend sort of vibe?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So this was evening dinner I had made. And we
know about this, right, I've talked about it a lot.
My kids are vegetarian. They don't eat meat, so I'm
often making different dinners for us. And then and the
other thing is, and even if your kids aren't vegetarians,
we know that kids need carbs and they need, you know,
(05:39):
the stuff that we don't necessarily all want to be
eating that much of.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, when we get to me or any type of
carp that's physically possible. But yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But you work out like a machine. So I have
to change my eating because I don't do what you
do in terms of exercising like a crazy person.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's how I can cope with my mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I did dinner for them, and I didn't actually
have that much. I needed to go shopping and I
was like, in the freezer, I had noodles for them,
and I was going to do like vegetables noodles, kind
of like a stir right, and then I was like, oh,
I only had one pack of noodles. I was like, oh,
it's stretching a little thin. And so I looked in
the freezer and I was like, great, guyoser.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So I was like perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So I cooked the dioser, did the noodles. The sauce
was all nice, and then vegetables and I was like,
this is a great this is a great dinner.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
For look at me. Go I pulled this out. I'm
nailing it.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They had something on that's right. So I was trying
to do it quickly as well, because we needed to
get to somewhere for their acting thing that they're doing,
drama thing, and then I'm quickly trying to do mine.
And they're eating and they sat at the kitchen bench
and they like, Mum, is there meeting this. I was like,
of course they're not meeting it, Like no, why would
(07:02):
I do that? And I was like I was offended,
and the fact that they even suggested that I might
have not been doing what I thought I was doing
making them a vegetarian dinner, as I have done.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
For years and year. It's like your first time you've
ever been cooking for them. No, like, I know what
I was doing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And then kept saying and then the other one kept
saying it, and they were doing that like, oh, it
tastes really like it tastes me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I was like, it doesn't taste meaty. No, it's vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh my god, I can't believe I'm going through this.
Let us see the packet.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh and oh my god. It was the end.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They were the last ones, the packets in the well.
You want me to go through the bin. They're like
looking at me. They're both complaining that. I was like,
I am going to be so mad if I go
through the bin and find the packet and show you
it's vegetarian. I'm going through the bin, raache, because I'm
determined to prove them that it was absolutely not to
(07:59):
carry on eating your fucking dinner that I've made. There's
nothing wrong with those vegetarian dioses.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm like, no, I'm looking through the bin. I'm like, oh,
that's right. It was in cardboard box, so it's where
the recycling goes under the sink.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So I was like wash my hands, was like fox sake.
It was really like putting me out.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm like looking at the girls like, oh, you're really irritating.
I've gone down to the cupboard under the sink where
the recycling is. I've looked at the box that says
pork cooser, and I have hesitated, So I'm squatting down
(08:45):
so they can just like see that I'm squatting down,
but they can't see my face, and I'm looking into
the cupboard and I'm pretending I'm looking around thinking lie
about it, just lie, And then the other part of
my brain's going, you can't lie. They're going to see
it in a second. You go, I have to show
(09:05):
them it clearly says pork and chive. So then I
have I'm like, look, rip the band aid off, do
this quickly.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Just put your hand over pork and chibe.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then I have just done it so quickly, Rach,
I just went, oh yeah, pork and chive. Sorry, like
reaching they've eaten too each I've gone straight into like
damage control. Fuck, then now they're not going to want
to eat the rest of the dinner. I was like,
(09:46):
just do the two left, give them to me, and
you can eat the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I was like, the rest of it was ve though,
wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But then they're like, what, but what's it touched? Where's
their been meat? We feel sick now? Was all of that,
and then there was a part of me in my
brain that then went, did you cook them long enough
for pork? Because I just assumed they're vegetable rate. So
(10:13):
I'm like, oh, yeah, that'll do. I'm sure they're warm enough.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think they would have turned it on for you,
whether it was cooked for ten minutes or twenty five minutes,
they would have turned it on for you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just absolutely grilled you over it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah they did. And then they were like they can't
believe how I glazed over it so calmly, oh yeah pork,
and sorry about and then they like kept looking at me.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You're not trying to like. I get that you don't
like me. You're not allergic, so we don't need an
epipenan for this situation. You're going to be okay, Yeah,
you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
My god, bit of pork, I said, how did you
feel a bit of protein pork on your fork. Then
the next night they went Mum, what's for dinner.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I went porkork,
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome back to am I a Bad Mum Podcast. I
feel like mom's nationwide are all in the thick of
it at the moment, and it's that battle of going, well,
I'm trying my best, but I'm also human. Yeah, and
I'm also I didn't have a manual. I'm just trying
(00:43):
to navigate it from being a human being. I actually
saw a counselor last week. Rage and I started a
conversation about an argument i'd had with the girls, and
I gave her, like their heads up. I said, just
to let you know, you're not going to agree with
any of what I did, and I don't agree with
any of what I did or said because none of
it is what i'd be telling someone else to be
(01:04):
doing in that situation. She went, I've got no judgment,
she said, I can write down what I think you
should have done, but at the end of the day,
you're a human being, yeah, with a human experience in
the moment, So you did what you needed to do.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So there you go, everyone, you did what you needed
to do. Whatever in the moment, yelling you did this
morning or saying things that you regret, it was what
you needed to do.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I think it's how you resolve it. For me that
it's the resolution process. Everyone's going to have anger, Everyone's
going to have fights, Everyone's going to have a disagreement.
That's natural part of it, including us with children. This
is where I'm going with it. I think it's the
resolution part. Yeah, still with your child, Like so if
your child is old enough, even the ones that still
(01:52):
just understand big feelings. So it's like acknowledging and you know, apologizing.
It's the resolution part that changes because that also educates
our kids to understand that there are going to be
hard times. There are going to be times where you're
going to disagree with each other. It's how you resolve
it that's the important part. And be willing to resolve it.
(02:12):
I mean, that's probably if I'm being really honest, that's
where I struggle. Struggle big time is to go in
and say sorry and explain it in a way that
they understand that you're human, that you did explode, But
do you understand where I got to and how I
got there. For them to be able to understand and
see what their actions were a part of it, And
(02:35):
it's really interesting to listen sometimes harder said that. You know,
I find it hard to just sit and listen to
them grill you on how they were feeling about.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
It about the situation.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, because Elsa and I that's a constant thing we
blow up. But the resolution part is she's so articulate
with how she feels.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You also said to your counselor, please don't judge me
on this.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
If you're going to start all that, he's going to
judge you the wrong one.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I knew she wasn't going to, but I just wanted
to give you the heads up. I know this is
not the right thing to do, is what I was
basically saying.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I know, like I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It out loud now, and I know how fucking crazy
this is going to sound out a loud when I
say it, So just don't judge me on okay, just
hold space for me.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well, I told you about how crazy I am.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But do you know what she said, I should absolutely
think you did the right thing. You did what you
needed to do in the moment, and that was a
human experience.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You know what, speaking to another mum over the weekend
and I had gone over sort of like the a
four piece of paper that.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I had left for what my kids were doing.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It was full an a four piece of paper nuery
Thursday to Sunday, And she went, don't you feel like
term three is one of the busiest terms out of
the whole year. I just can't keep up, Like I
genuinely have no calendar.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They have it all.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it's all about them. It's all about them.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
There's a really old group of men that are playing
like futsal, and they're like in their sixties and seventies.
On a Sunday morning as I'm sitting on my ass
just drinking coffee watching my child.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Train for netball, and I was like, I'm just going
to go out there. I'm going to reverse them.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I can't play any form of soccer or footsool, just
for the record, but I was like, look at you
lazy sod, get off your ass.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Look at the men they're running around. There's seventy do
you know.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Just going back to the it being all about the kids,
is that I was getting ready for work the other
day and I didn't have any meetings or anything really
important going on, and I went, I'm just going to
wear active where today and then I feel to myself,
what am I doing after work?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Kids?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I was like, doesn't really matter if I look good
or not. Like I'm literally it's all about them. I
can wear whatever, just be comfortable. Am I bad mum
for not realizing what I was feeding them?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Is this like an ongoing thing? Is this like just
for one weekend sort of vibe?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
So this was evening dinner I had made. And we
know about this, right, I've talked about it a lot.
My kids are vegetarian. They don't eat meat, so I'm
often making different dinners for us. And then and the
other thing is, and even if your kids aren't vegetarians,
we know that kids need carbs and they need, you know,
(05:39):
the stuff that we don't necessarily all want to be
eating that much of.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, when we get to me or any type of
carp that's physically possible. But yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But you work out like a machine. So I have
to change my eating because I don't do what you
do in terms of exercising like a crazy person.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
It's how I can cope with my mental health.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So I did dinner for them, and I didn't actually
have that much. I needed to go shopping and I
was like, in the freezer, I had noodles for them,
and I was going to do like vegetables noodles, kind
of like a stir right, and then I was like, oh,
I only had one pack of noodles. I was like, oh,
it's stretching a little thin. And so I looked in
the freezer and I was like, great, guyoser.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So I was like perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
So I cooked the dioser, did the noodles. The sauce
was all nice, and then vegetables and I was like,
this is a great this is a great dinner.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
For look at me. Go I pulled this out. I'm
nailing it.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
They had something on that's right. So I was trying
to do it quickly as well, because we needed to
get to somewhere for their acting thing that they're doing,
drama thing, and then I'm quickly trying to do mine.
And they're eating and they sat at the kitchen bench
and they like, Mum, is there meeting this. I was like,
of course they're not meeting it, Like no, why would
(07:02):
I do that? And I was like I was offended,
and the fact that they even suggested that I might
have not been doing what I thought I was doing
making them a vegetarian dinner, as I have done.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
For years and year. It's like your first time you've
ever been cooking for them. No, like, I know what
I was doing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
And then kept saying and then the other one kept
saying it, and they were doing that like, oh, it
tastes really like it tastes me.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I was like, it doesn't taste meaty. No, it's vegetarian.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh my god, I can't believe I'm going through this.
Let us see the packet.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh and oh my god. It was the end.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
They were the last ones, the packets in the well.
You want me to go through the bin. They're like
looking at me. They're both complaining that. I was like,
I am going to be so mad if I go
through the bin and find the packet and show you
it's vegetarian. I'm going through the bin, raache, because I'm
determined to prove them that it was absolutely not to
(07:59):
carry on eating your fucking dinner that I've made. There's
nothing wrong with those vegetarian dioses.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm like, no, I'm looking through the bin. I'm like, oh,
that's right. It was in cardboard box, so it's where
the recycling goes under the sink.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So I was like wash my hands, was like fox sake.
It was really like putting me out.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm like looking at the girls like, oh, you're really irritating.
I've gone down to the cupboard under the sink where
the recycling is. I've looked at the box that says
pork cooser, and I have hesitated, So I'm squatting down
(08:45):
so they can just like see that I'm squatting down,
but they can't see my face, and I'm looking into
the cupboard and I'm pretending I'm looking around thinking lie
about it, just lie, And then the other part of
my brain's going, you can't lie. They're going to see
it in a second. You go, I have to show
(09:05):
them it clearly says pork and chive. So then I
have I'm like, look, rip the band aid off, do
this quickly.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Just put your hand over pork and chibe.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And then I have just done it so quickly, Rach,
I just went, oh yeah, pork and chive. Sorry, like
reaching they've eaten too each I've gone straight into like
damage control. Fuck, then now they're not going to want
to eat the rest of the dinner. I was like,
(09:46):
just do the two left, give them to me, and
you can eat the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I was like, the rest of it was ve though,
wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But then they're like, what, but what's it touched? Where's
their been meat? We feel sick now? Was all of that,
and then there was a part of me in my
brain that then went, did you cook them long enough
for pork? Because I just assumed they're vegetable rate. So
(10:13):
I'm like, oh, yeah, that'll do. I'm sure they're warm enough.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I think they would have turned it on for you,
whether it was cooked for ten minutes or twenty five minutes,
they would have turned it on for you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just absolutely grilled you over it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah they did. And then they were like they can't
believe how I glazed over it so calmly, oh yeah pork,
and sorry about and then they like kept looking at me.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Mom.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was like, yeah, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You're not trying to like. I get that you don't
like me. You're not allergic, so we don't need an
epipenan for this situation. You're going to be okay, Yeah,
you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
My god, bit of pork, I said, how did you
feel a bit of protein pork on your fork. Then
the next night they went Mum, what's for dinner.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I went porkork,
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