December 23, 2025 • 41 mins
You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr and Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for December 22, 2025.
0:30 Immigration, assimilation, and the American Dream. We break down why equal opportunity — not equal outcomes — has always been at the heart of American success, and why past waves of immigrants embraced shared values to build a common culture. We turn to Vice President JD Vance’s warning about Europe’s immigration crisis, cultural division, and security fears in cities like Paris, and ask whether the United States is heading down the same path.
9:30 Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know.
- The US seized another oil tanker leaving Venezuela over the weekend.
- Over the weekend, a dump of Epstein files was released to the public.
- The Delaware Supreme Court ruled that Elon musk is indeed entitled to the largest compensation package for a CEO in world history.
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13:00 President Trump made a surprise announcement to build a new “Trump Class” battleship for the U.S. Navy — and it’s already sending the left into a frenzy. We dive into what this could mean for America’s military strength as China ramps up its naval power, and whether battleships could make a comeback in modern warfare.
16:00 American Mamas Teri Netterville and Kimberly Burleson react to a hilarious story involving Conan O’Brien, Will Arnett, and Jason Bateman — and a running joke about grief, friendship, and irreverent humor. The conversation explores how laughter can be a powerful way to cope with loss, even in the middle of heartbreak.
From sharing personal family stories to debating why Hollywood comedians on the left embrace edgy humor — until it comes from conservatives — the segment dives into comedy, culture, and double standards in political humor. It’s a heartfelt and funny look at how humor connects people, celebrates life, and keeps friendships strong, even during the toughest times.
If you'd like to ask our American Mamas a question, go to our website, AmericanGroundRadio.com/mamas and click on the Ask the Mamas button.
23:00 We break down President Trump’s pro-life legacy, the future of abortion policy after Roe v. Wade, and what it really means to stand for the sanctity of life. From states’ rights and constitutional limits on federal power to supporting single mothers, adoption, foster care, and post-abortion counseling, being pro-life must go beyond just opposing abortion. Republicans should defend life at every stage — and make compassion, not just legislation, the heart of the pro-life message.
26:00 We Dig Deep into Meet the Press moderator Chuck Todd and his Newsmax appearance, where he claimed Americans don’t trust the media because they don’t trust “the experts.” But the real crisis is media credibility — not public ignorance.
From COVID coverage and government messaging to questions about President Biden’s mental fitness and climate change debates legacy media treated experts like gospel, dismissed dissent, and labeled skeptics as conspiracy theorists. The result? A collapse of trust in journalism and mainstream news.
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32:30 New York City mayor-elect Zoran Mamdani, isn't just a Democrat — but an outright socialist poised to take control of America’s largest city. With Mamdani set to be sworn in by Bernie Sanders and New York Attorney General Letitia James, the symbolism couldn’t be clearer. From AOC and Bernie Sanders to politicized justice and government overreach, Mamdani’s rise is a warning sign for where the Democratic Party — and America — could be headed next.
35:30 And we have a Bright Spot coming from Mullins, South Carolina where a private citizens group set out to give their downtown a Hallmark-style holiday makeover — complete with S
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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rejecting American values faster than Democrats can defend felons and
illegal terrorist gang members. No traveling the Central American country
is required.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
We choose to go to the moon and do the
other thing.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Not because they are eavey, but because.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
They are on.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It is time for us to realize that we're too
great a nation to limit ourselves to small dreams.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I have a dream that one day this nation will
rise up live out the true meaning of its dream.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
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Speaker 3 (00:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know, for those who have been listening to the
show for any extended period of time, you all know.
I am the son of an Italian immigrant, and my
grandparents were immigrants to this country from Italy as well.
And I bring this up and it's not I guess
to some degree it's anecdotal, but it's it's really not.
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I think it's a common I think it's a common
experience among many Italian immigrants, but not just Italian immigrants,
but I think Irish, German, Polish, you know the list French,
the list goes on and on.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How about English?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Okay, yeah, English immigrants as well.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean you brag about how your family just got here.
My family, my entire family was here before the revolution, now,
both sides, all the way back I sixteen generations, all
of them here in the colonies while they were still
British subjects.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, but do you think it was as important then, yeah,
for there to be a melting pot of a nation
in terms of I mean, there wasn't a lot of
folks that came to this country that didn't want to
be here. They didn't want to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean, you could say about one third of the
country didn't necessarily want to be here since they came
across in slave ships. But Thomas Jefferson said, I mean
talking about back of the founding of the country. Thomas
Jefferson said that we should actually only be encouraging immigration
from European countries that have a history of republic rule
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of democratic rule. That if we were simply importing people
who were used to tyrants or monarchs absolute monarchs as
their governmental structure, that they would not be able to
fit into the new free Republic of the United States
of America. They wouldn't understand what voting is all about.
They wouldn't understand their role in society. They wouldn't understand
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the freedom that had been given to them and the
obligations that go along with those freedoms. They were saying
that you've got to you've got to be bringing people
into this country who understand what being part of a
liberal democracy was all about.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, I mean, I don't think there are a lot
of immigrants that came to this country that had any
understanding of any of that. What they knew that, well,
the British subjects did well, I mean British and Scottish.
But that's why I was talking about, you know, your
French and your Polish and Italian, your German immigrants. They
came to this country, right, and they didn't know, you know,
about John Winthrop, they didn't know about you know, Adam Smith,
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the Wealth of Nations, right. I mean, they they hadn't read,
you know, a lot of the historical documents that we
cherish in this country. But a lot of them had
read like Independence, bag Getty's Burger Dress, for example.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
A lot of them did read the plaque on the
Statue of Liberty, but most things been to it. And
by the way that by the time we got immigration
waves coming from France, it was after the French Revolution.
By the time he started getting immigrant waves coming from Italy,
it was generally after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire,
but started having democratic traditions in those countries really before
we started seeing the massive waves of immigrations from those countries.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But I bring that up because I know my own father.
You know, he had had not read the Declaration of Independence,
he had not read the Gettysburg Address. I don't think
he had a full understanding. What he had a seemingly
he understood like the back of his hand, were those
founding principles that founded this nation, That all made this
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that we are all created equal, that God gives us
our right, and that if if only given the opportunity.
He wasn't expecting equal outcome. No, he was only expecting
equal opportunity. And that's why I say, I don't think
it's my experience. You know, having a front row seat
to the American dream is not anecdotal. I think it is.
It is shared. Is something that is common with millions
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of immigrants to this country.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We shouldn't want equal outcome. We should not want because
just because of what I want from my life, well,
what makes me happy won't necessarily make you happy. What
makes you happy won't necessarily make me happy. We shouldn't
want equal outcomes.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I should be able to.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Live my life and go and do what I want
to accomplish, and try and take advantage of the opportunities
that are reforming. And you should want to go and
live your life and try and do what you should do,
and take advantage of the opportunities that are before you.
And if you have different opportunities than I have, or
if you pursue those opportunities differently than I do, we
should both expect different outcomes based upon the pursuit.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And I bring all of this up because Vice President JD.
Vance Hu was giving an interview with this was the
media outlet called Unheard on Heard dot com, and basically
he was talking about how you know, if you look
at Europe, basically they've let too many people in too quick,
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and they haven't made sure that there was going to
be any cultural cohesion right, and he said that that
risks what he calls civic Balkanization. And ethnic hatred.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You're seeing it right out France. In Paris, France, they
have canceled their New Year's Eve celebrations at the Eiffel Tower.
And this is one of those if you're watching you know,
Dick Clarks Rock and New Year's Eve or whatever, they'll
show you as they go New Year's Eve's around the
world and they show you the lighting of the Eiffel
Tower and the fireworks going off the Eiffel Tower. It's
one of the most famous celebrations all around the world.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
They've canceled it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
This is not this year. They're not even gonna light it.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Up because of terror, because of security fears. That's what
they said.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Security fears, Well, what security fears from immigrant Muslim communities
in Paris that have not become part of the melting pot,
the multicultural melting pot.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That is Paris. They have their own enclaves.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They don't like Europe, they don't like white, traditional Europe,
and so they are fighting against it within Europe. They've
othered people within then with their own country.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So Vice President of Van's is basically saying, look, immigration
policy is much larger than just economics or border security, right,
It's about whether a nation can preserve its shared sense
of who it is frankly, a people, a culture, right,
I mean your civic identity that binds us all.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you don't love the Eiffel Tower, if you don't
love Notre Dame Cathedral, if you don't love Versailles, why
would you move to France?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
If you don't loconomic benefits? Okay, but government benefits.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But maybe you should recognize that some of that economic
government benefits comes from the culture that was France itself.
And if you can't respect and revere the culture of France,
you have no business living there as a citizen.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Same thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's happening right here in the United States. You have
neighborhoods or cities, cities, entire cities that are functioning again,
that are functionally, you know, basically functionally separate worlds.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Dearborn Michigan. The mayor of Dearborn Michigan said, Christians are
not allowed in that city. Dearborn Michigan. This is not
you know, Mogadishu, This is Dearborn Michigan. Christians are not
allowed in that city. According to the mayor of that city.
Who happens to be a Muslim immigrant. And if you
don't love the culture of the United States of America,
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then you shouldn't be here. If you don't love the
ideas that created this country, then you shouldn't be here.
And if you cannot respect that this country was built
on a Judeo Christian work ethic, you have no business
being here.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And see that. I think that's the difference, one of
the differences of immigration of the past and immigration today.
I think assimilation was the secret sauce. The melting worked
because America believed in a core culture and.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It usually took three generations to make that melting pot seamless.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
But that doesn't seem to be what's happening these days.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Let's get to the top three things you need no
before tomorrow. First thing you need before tomorrow. The US
sees another oil tanker leaving Venezuela over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
It's the third tanker season the past two weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
In addition, the US Coast Guards in the process of
chasing down yet another oil tanker that was not flying
any international flag heading out towards the Atlantic. Venezuela has
been usual what's called a shadow fleet of oil tankers
the smuggle oil out of the country in an effort
to avoid international sanctions against the regime. Last week, President
Trump announced an embargo and blockade against Venezuela with the
intent of ending the illicit oil trade that's propping up
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the Maduro administration.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You know, there's a flurry of activity from pundits on
the right like Kandas Owens and Tucker Carlson. They are
suggesting that this whole Maduro attack, yeah, is because he's
not pro Israel. But the leading opponent of Maduro in
Venezuela is pro Israel.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
How about you just go with the most common thing.
Maduro is a narco terrorist who cheated in the last
election to maintain the dictatorship of a very important South
American country. Why do you need to go for some
crazy Kakamami conspiracy theory when the facts sitting in front
of your face will answer the questions.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well, they're just asking questions.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
No, they're asking stupid questions. Second thing you need over
before tomorrow. Over the weekend, a dump of Epstein files
was released to the public that included numerous pictures of
former President Bill Clinton. One picture includes an image of
an alleged victim of Epstein sitting on Clinton's lap e.
Several others feature Clinton in a hot tub with a
shirt off You've seen in the hot tub with Epstein's accomplice,
Gislaine Maxwell, and another woman who is alleged to be
a victim. President Clinton's chief of staff Anyel Urana, responded
(10:52):
to the photos, saying, there are two types of people here.
The first group knew nothing and cut Epstein off before
its crimes came to light. The second group continue with
relationships with him after we're in the first You.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Know, I'm not quite sure what is more obscene, President
Clinton topless in a hot tub or the allegations.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I would say the allegations and the third thing you
need to know before tomorrow, the Delaware Supreme Court rule
that Elon Musk is indeed entitled to the largest compensation
package for CEO and world history. Lower courts and Delaware
had ruled that Musk's one hundred and thirty nine billion
dollars pay for for Tesla by Tesla was excessive. However,
that pay package was approved by the company's board of
directors and seventy percent of the stockholders in the company.
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The lower courts rulings have had a devastating impact on
Delaware's economy, as dozens of major corporations that move their
headquarters out of state as a result. Musk tweeted the
word vindicated after the State Supreme Court's ruling restored his.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Pay, and then he went and bought a new car. No,
he makes cars. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Worth he's worth more than the second and third richest
person on the planet combined.
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Speaker 4 (12:45):
So the President made an announcement today This is according
to the New York Times. Yeah, that a Pentagon official
announced that President Trump is going to basically embark on
the construction of a new type of ship for the
US Navy, and it's going to be called Trump Class battleships.
(13:13):
Oh my gosh, the left is going to go nuts.
You know, you had Trump Steaks, you have Trump hotels,
you have Trump golf courses, Trump University, and now Trump
the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, and now and there's there was Trump the Book.
I actually have at home, Trump the Board Game.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I do have an Oh nice, I do yeah. Uh.
And now there will be Trump Class battleships. So he
made this announcement with Defense Secretary Pete hegseith Uh and
the Secretary of the Navy, John falen Uh in Palm Beach, Florida.
And Trump has criticized the appearance and the function of
modern Navy warships. By the way, we are being out
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gunned or outshipped, so to speak, by China when it
comes to our navy.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
They're making a lot more.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I'm interested to see what he's talking about here with
the battleship, because the battleship technically went obsolete back in
the night. By the nineteen eighties, I mean, the USS
New Jersey was the last battleship that we had. Reagan
did use it to bombard what was in Lebanon, but
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battleships really were they became obsolete with the advent of
the aircraft carrier.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Uh So I'm interested to see.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
What he's actually talking about, whether these are really battleships
in the traditional sense or whether it's just these.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Are cruisers, these destroyers. What are these?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And the Navy has always named ships, you know, symbolically
or out of honor for presidents, sometimes for states or cities, heroes, otherwise.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well a lot of times a right, So Nimmt's aircraft carriers,
so that the USS Nimmts was part of the Nimts
class of aircraft carrier. It just landed back in Bremerton
Shipyard up in Washington State after having toward Asia. It's
probably his last tour. It's on his way towards Norfolk,
eventually to be scuttled. The Nimts was named after Rear
Admiral Chester Nimitz, who was basically the leader of the
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Pacific Fleet during World War Two. So we will have
aircraft carriers named after individuals. You know, the Dwight Eisenhower,
We've got the HW Bush, We've got the Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
So we've named.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Aircraft carriers after presidents in the past, so it's not
it's just usually not the president that's currently in office
that we named these afters.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well, the left, I'm sure they just don't want anyone
to ever remember the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We got a question for our American mamas. Dear mama's,
did you see the story about Conan O'Brien blaming Jason
Bateman for killing his parents?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Well, let's ask our American mamas, mamma.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And joining us now our American mama's Terry Netteville and
Kimberly Burlison.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
This is a story that was told by.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I'm blanking on Urnette, Will Arnette. Thank you so much,
Will Arnette. He was he's doing his podcast with Conan
O'Brien and they're talking about when Conan O'Brien's parents passed away.
I'm not going to do justice to the story, so
I'm just gonna play this is Will Arnette talking to
Conan O'Brien. Already here we go.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
So I hear that that your your dad passes away
and I text you and I said, hey, listen, I'm
sorry to hear about your dad's passing, sending love from
our family to yours, and you wrote, thank you. Will
to be honest, I blame Bateman for.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
The death of my for the death of my father.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
The day after his father dies, yeah, so I wrote,
it's not a terrible theory and contexted me back, he
killed my dad.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Can I say, in fairness, my dad would have loved this, okay.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
The next day, Bateman texts you and he says, Arnette
tells me you're onto me yes, and ConA texts Babman.
He says, Babeman, do yourself favor, turn yourself in. Two
days after your dad passes. Of course your mom passed away, Yeah,
which we didn't I did not see coming, but did
not see coming. So I text you two days after,
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I said, Bateman is asking for your sister street address.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And the funny thing was a couple of days late
because Conan didn't see his messages for a couple of days.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
He sees his message.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
A couple days later and texts Arnette the street adjust
for his sister and says, make it look like a robbery. Okay,
this is my humor, is it?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
This is my This cracked me up because we talk
about that like so often when we are together as
a family and we talk about our parents or we
are in the midst of grieving, we always laugh and
we say, nobody could could listen to this and think
that we're okay. We would so be judged, We would
so be judged. But to me, it's the best way
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to get through grief is to be able to laugh.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It really is a it's an interesting and again, Conan
is a comedian, will learned that's a funny, funny guy.
Jason Bateman's a funny guy. For them to carry this
joke on as a way of showing, you know, support
and instead of just saying, you know, our sympathies, you're like, okay, yeah,
you know what, Conan will play along. Yeah, I find
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that an interesting friendship.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Yes, yeah, I think we grew up with a dad
that had this kind of humor, and even our grandmother,
his mom, who was a preacher's wife. So in people,
I think I've had friends say I think the biggest
surprised Harry was you have this irreverent humor that we don't,
but that is like my favorite kind of humor.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Oh yeah, and you do have an eruption.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Well, Terry's hilarious. Terry is hilarious, especially the later it gets,
the funnier she gets. But when our grandmother died, Terry
sat at the front of the church and she shared
some of our Gracie stories that entire First of all,
it was packed, the balcony was packed, and people were rolling,
and people left saying, that is the best funeral I
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have ever been to in my entire life, because Terry
had them rolling.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Because she wanted that She wanted us to tell her
Gracy star is. She wanted people to know that side
of her. So she had a successful funeral, a successful funeral.
But what was so great about is I think a
lot of people go to funerals thinking that you can't laugh,
you know, you're not allowed. It's not a place to
But if you allow them to see a side of
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your loved one that brings them to life in a
way they never knew them, then everyone's like, you celebrate
you truly celebrate that life. But here's here's my thing. Okay,
so these are all lefties, right, will Aarnett and Bateman
and John Bryan.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Yeah, I don't know if they're the far left. Well,
they certainly left a center.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Yeah, they're left enough. Yes, and they have great humor, yes,
until Trump says something and he means it to be funny,
and then all of a sudden they don't. Like we
were talking the other day about jd Vance, you know
that writer for Vanity Fair say that jd Vance was
making You know, we know it was a joke, but
he said, Hey, to the photographer, I'll give you a
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hundred dollars if you make me look better than them.
I'll give you a thousand if you can make me
look better than Marco Rubio. And they were like, I mean,
he's so competitive. We all know it's a joke. This
crew of guys. If it was someone on the left,
they'd say, that's the kind of humor we like. So
it's like, sometimes I feel like the left forgets humor
when it comes to us on the right, we have
just as much fun. I loved I loved that humor.
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I like a little bit of that irreverent because I
get it. I get it our dad. I won't go
into the whole story, but there's a phrase that our
family uses whenever somebody dies that it's so irreverent, but
it's so funny that we all can collectively come together
like Okay, we're still here, and that person loved what
we just said, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
And there is a way of connecting people with humor.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, if if you can make someone laugh, you've
created a connection with that person in a way that
making them cry doesn't necessarily always do.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I love the story.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
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their podcast, Willonnette and Conan O'Brien. It's because there's more
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All Right, there are some that say, you know, President
Trump is the most pro life president we have had
in our nation's history. I think you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Can make that argument. I certainly think that Actually, if
you go back in time before Roe V. Wade, I
would think most presidents were actually rather pro life. Maybe
not Woodrow Wilson, but certainly with George Washington was pro life,
that they thought abortion was.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
An awful sin.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But certainly in the modern time, the only one who's
close I think, at least in actions is rom O Reagan.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Well, there are many folks that say now that President
Trump is, or at least some people around him, are
now more focused about how the abortion messaging might affect
Republican chances in the twenty twenty six midterms than about
the moral substance of the issue itself. That underlies the
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fact that so many would say that he is the
greatest or the most pro life president in our nation's history.
So the question is, you know, President Trump always wanted
to return the debate for abortion back to the States
and I say the debate, maybe that's being a little
too the fight liberal in that he always wanted to
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basically take it out of federal control.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, because that's what Robby Wade did. Robby Wade took
it away from the states and gave it to the
federal government. If you'll read the Constitution, that was not
one of the things that was listed as a power
of the federal government. And so the Tenth Amendment says
that anything that's not expressly given to the federal government
is reserved to the people or to the states. So
this should have been a state issue from day one.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
The Roe v.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Wade decision of seventy three got the constitution one wrong.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So the question is, you know, is Trump in twenty
twenty six, is he going to be as strong for
pro life issues even though those have been returned to
the states for example.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Right, here's what the Republicans need to do, And honestly,
you've got to listen on this. You've got to listen
to this point. Being pro life is not just about
being anti abortion. You want to win over people who
aren't happy that we've returned this debate back to the states.
What you have to do is you have to be
putting together policies that support the single mom that that
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can't have an abortion, because you you need to be
supporting the child for adoption and for fostering. It's too
expensive to adopt a child in this country. We've got
to bring those costs down well.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Being pro life is not just being anti abortion, it's not.
It's about preserving the sanctity of life at every stage
of life.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And I would say that that you need to be
offering counseling. We need to be making it to where
anyone who's actually had an abortion is able to get
the mental counseling they need to go through that grief,
because right now that's something that's been you're supposed to
celebrate the murder on the left that you're supposed to
celebrate your abortion. Why would you celebrate something so painful
as an abortion. So the right has got to step
(25:35):
up and start fighting for the right to life of
mothers as well if you want to continue pushing this
argument forward.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Right, So, I hope that one of President Trump's greatest
legacies won't get watered down.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
No, No, you've got to be on a bachelorly pro life.
But that means all life. Let's dig deep, going down down.
So Chuck Todd was the host to Meet the Press
on NBC for nearly a decade before being let go
last year. He's now doing hits on other channels, including
(26:11):
Newsmax and over the weekend he was on Newsmax and
he was asked why people just don't trust the media,
and here's his answer.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
You got a clip tock to listen.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
I think that the collapse of trust in overall institutions,
the media in some ways is a reflection of that distrust,
and so that we may be reporting what the quote
unquote experts tell us. But if the public doesn't trust
those experts, and then we in the media are quoting
those experts, they don't trust us too.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So Chuck Todd says, the reason why people don't trust
the media is because the media trusts. It's because the
people don't trust the media the experts, and the media
is simply quoting experts. So it's not the media's fault,
it's the experts fault.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So it's the transference. Yeah, of I guess distrust, right.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You don't trust the experts, so therefore we don't trust
the media. But he's missing some very important details. The
reason why people don't trust so called experts is that
too many times the experts didn't know what in the
world they were talking about, or they were intentionally hiding
the truth about what they were talking about. People don't
trust the experts because over and over and over and
over again, the experts were wrong, and not just wrong,
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obviously wrong. Our Declaration of Independence would have called it
self evidently wrong. And the media didn't just quote the experts.
They treated every word the experts said as if it
was gospel, as if it was unquestionably true. And worse,
if anyone did question those experts, the people in the
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media said, well, anyone questioned the experts must be a
conspiracy theorist, or a nut job, or worse, a Republican.
We could demonstrate this with COVID very easily. That's one example.
But let's just take a more recent example. Joe Biden's
mental health. The experts, Koreem John Pierre, president Biden's physician,
probably Vice President Kamala Harris, anyone who is a Democrat.
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They all assured us Joe Biden was as fit as
he had ever been, crossed my heart and hoped to
die he was sharp as attack. That was obviously wrong
to anyone with a pair of working eyeballs, but Chuck
Todd and his co hurts in big media just nodded along.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yep, Joe Sharpes's attack. Definitely Sharpenes's attack. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
But that's a lie. That's more than just I mean,
you're you're deliberately lying that, Chuck Todd. Is why folks
don't trust journalists because.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
They were completely wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You're lying to people. It's not just merely that the experts,
so to speak, are you know, I guess, compromised or biased.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
If you have a group of experts and the experts say,
you know, there's a doctor that says Joe Biden is
mentally compromised. However, there's another doctor over here that says,
I don't buy that decision. So that's now quoting experts
and just leaving it up to them. That's not what
the media was doing. If any Republican tried to come
out and say Joe Biden's mentally compromised, they go, well,
how do you say that? How dare you say that?
(29:09):
All right, So Chuck Todd then tried to diagnose why
people don't trust the experts anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
I put the blame on big tech and algorithms that
sort of I think make it too easy for too
many people to live in a bubble, a filter bubble.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, So the reason that people don't trust the experts
is because we're all living in a bubble.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
No, no, no, no. The reason the.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Media was wrong was because they were living in their
own trust the expert echo chamber.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Well, I mean, who picked the experts the laugh exactly?
Who ignored the dissenting ones the last okay, and the
big media.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
The reason the rest of the country knew the media
was wrong was because we could see the truth on
social media when regular people started posting simple video clips
hold on what was true and what wasn't true was shattered.
This isn't that the country was living in a bubble.
It's that people in the media, like Chuck Todd, were
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living in a bubble and their bubble said, you've got
to trust the experts. Fauci's been in government for forty
seven years. He must know everything.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And it's not just the expert, it's experts. I would say,
it's also the government. And if the government says it,
they print it, or they repeat it. Well, because the
government is the expert, unless it's the Trump administration, and
then of course you say the opposite R. But I mean,
I guess where I'm going with that is is that
you know, if the government says it and you print it,
(30:40):
or if an agency asserts it, and then you'd give
it a platform. Right, that's not journalism. That is basically
you know you're doing pr and if.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You're only selecting one group of experts, let's go to
global warming. There are a bunch of global warming experts
I consider myself one who say carbon diox is not
the big problem. The media won't talk to those experts.
They only talk to the experts who are wrong. As
long as people like Chuck Todd refuse to admit that
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they weren't just wrong, but that they were obviously wrong,
people like you and me will continue to have good
reason not to trust the media. It's not because of
their experts, it's because they don't know what they're doing either.
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Speaker 4 (32:14):
Mayor New York City mayor elects zorin. Ma'm danny right.
And by the way, folks are reporting that he is
I guess he is a Democrat, registered Democrat.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Mom, Donna, Yeah, he's a registered Democrat.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But he's a socialist. I mean, he believes in Why
do you deist ideology?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Why do you think there's a dichotomy between communists and
the Democrat Party these days?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Well, there really is there. There really isn't they eventually.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, you've got factions of the Democrat Party. You
do have still some uh, they don't necessarily want socialism, they.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Just want big, big government.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Then you've got some factions that actually don't want really
any they just want anarchy. That's the Antifa faction.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Then you've got basically the the Muslim Jihadis faction that
wants Sharia law to come in.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
They just don't want to tell you yet. Ill hann Omar.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And then you have the socialist faction AOC Bernie Sanders
that they say they want democratic socialism. What they really
are going to end up trying to get the United
States to go to is communism.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Okay, And so, of course Iran Mandami after January first,
will no longer be mayor elect.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
He's going to be mayor.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He's going to be mayor of New York City. He's
going to be sworn into office January first, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
A communist will be the mayor of our financial center
of America, the financial center of.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The world, and he will be sworn in by the
socialist darling of the nation.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Senator Bernie Sanders as well as Trump Trump derangement syndrome
and New York Attorney General Letitia James.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Oh yeah, formerly indicted Attorney General Leticia James uh indicted
for mortgage fraud.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean think of the symbolism here, right, I mean,
anyone can administer an oath. Yeah, but you're having Bernie
Sanders swear in Ma'm Danny. I mean that's obviously not
an accident.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Look, I just hope it's not so cold out.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So I remember how cold it was when Biden was sworn.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
In, and then he brought a folding chair.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, I sitting there a big jacket.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I mean, that'd be funny to have his mittens. As
he says to mom, Donnie, raise your right hand.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
So you've got ma'm Danny, you've got Sanders, you've got
Letitia James. I mean, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
This that's the what the Democrat Party wants to be.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Bernie Sanders zoramm Donnie, And they want to use the
Attorney General's office to put anyone they disagree with in
jail while they commit acts of crime like mortgage fraud
that benefits their family.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
That's the Difficut Party today. Let's get to a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm doing all right, getting good grades.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So Mullins is a small town in South Carolina, only
about four thousand, six hundred people living in Mullins, South Carolina.
There's a private group in the town called the Mullins
Beautification Committee.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Love that.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
The beautification committee.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
So Kimberly Bird is the head of the Mullens Beautification Committee,
and they told the city they would put up some
Christmas decorations around the downtown square and the idea was
to make the town center look.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Like a Hallmark movie. You've watched those Hallmark Christmas.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Don't get me started on Hallmark movies. Okay, but they
all follow the same script.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yes, and they're so small town and a small town
is a Christmas festival and it looks so beautiful, right,
And that's what they wanted Mullins to look like, was
that small town beautiful Christmas.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Okay, all right, I mean they're just they're kind of sacker,
and I get all that in point of this, all right, Okay,
the MITE bought and put up some decorations, including snowman, Santa,
some candles, and a Nativity scene in lights, usual Christmas stuff.
Right wait wait wait wait wait, you're gonna use a
Nativity scene?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
The government?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
No, no, no, no, this was the Beautification committee.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It's a private group of citizens.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
They used their own money to put it up.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
But then the mayor of Mullens stepped in.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Democrat Mayor Miko Pickett wants Miss Bird.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
She went to Miss Bird.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And asked her to take down the Nativity scene. She
said it might be offensive to some residents. The mayor,
the Democrat mayor of this small town of South Carolina,
thought a Nativity scene wasn't appropriate to be part of
the town's Christmas decorations. Christ Mass decorations in.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Rural South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
This isn't upstate New York, this isn't California. This is
South freaking Carolina. So there was a bit of an
opera about this, and then the mayor had to defend herself,
so she tried to clear fire point on Facebook. She wrote,
I requested that the Nativity scene be removed solely from
the all caps public parking area. Okay, so she's yelling
at people now. The reason for this is the separation
(37:11):
of church and state applies to municipalities as well, regarding
religious symbols on public property in parks, not if it's
done with private money and anyway, Kimberlee Bird.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
The same time, though, I mean it is using public
property to advance Christmas. So if I'm not disagreeing real.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Quick, if the city wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Are they
not allowed to put up a manora?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Technically? No, But would they technically technically with that I would.
I think they would have an argument to be made, and.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think in a lot of courts these days, they'd
lose that argument, especially if it's done with private money. Well,
Kimberly Bird and the Molle's Beautification Committee stood the ground.
They said, no, we paid for these with our money.
We are celebrating the birth of Christ, and in order
to celebrate the birth of Christ, we are going to
have a light to blay that depicts the actual birth
of Christ.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
She told Fox News.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I never thought I'd have to do anything like this,
but at the end of the day, we have to
stand for what we believe in and what is right.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Well, yeah, I mean, look, tolerance does not mean erasing traditions, right,
I mean, you know, the mayor here was probably trying
to be tolerant of those I think the mayor.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Was trying to be intolerant. I think she's trying to
be intolerant.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Christians, well under the banner of tolerance, right, She's.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Trying to use tolerance as a cudgel to silence Christians.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But you know, pretending that faith especially at Christmas doesn't exist.
I mean, that's the real insult, especially to the millions
of citizens for whom Christmas is not a shopping season
but a sacred celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And allowing private citizens to celebrate their religion is not
the government establishing one.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
You're listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio, Stephen part of Lewis.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So, you know, back to this whole idea of whether
the government can prevent a Nativity scene from being placed
in a public place or public square otherwise, right, you know,
the government does not have and this is under the
United States Constitution. The government does not have the blanket
(39:35):
authority to ban a Nativity scene simply because quote some
folks might get offended close quote. Offense is not a
legal standard. It never has been. Now, the First Amendment
prohibits the establishment of religion.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So government's not allowed to say you have to be
part of this religion. Government's not allowed to say this
is the official religion of our government. But that's not
what allowing people to put up a Nativity scene.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Is well, And the government can't silence lawful expression simply
because they're trying to avoid discomfort. If that were the rule,
then free speech would have died decades ago.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
You can't have a free society without people being offended.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Now, you just can't. Now, can the city impose neutral
rules about the time and place and manner, Yes, absolutely.
Can it single out a Nativity scene because it's religious,
Absolutely not. That's viewpoint discrimination And it loses in every
court every time.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
And I'm not saying you have to have Nativity scenes
up year round, but denying people the right to put
up a Nativity scene at Christmas, we've got to say
whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
When I say whoa ah, I mean whoa.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Over the weekend, an airplane safely landed at Denvers, a
Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport. And that may not sound like
a big deal, but it was actually the first landing
of its kind. You see, the pilot of the plane
had passed out after the cabin suffered from depressurization. In
every other instance that happened in the past, the plane
eventually crashed, killing everyone on board. But this plane had
new technology installed, the Garmin Auto land safety feature. When
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the plane's computer system realized the pilot wasn't awake and
in control, the plane took over, radioed ahead to the
nearest airport, saying they were experiencing pilot incapacitation and telling
the tower when the plane would be landing. The tower
cleared all the other air traffic away from the airport
as the plane safely landed on its own, marking the
first time the technology was used in a real emergency.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That is pretty impressive, Pretty amaze. That's ai I could
really give behind.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
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Speaker 3 (41:46):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
It is time for us to realize that we're too
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Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know, for those who have been listening to the
show for any extended period of time, you all know.
I am the son of an Italian immigrant, and my
grandparents were immigrants to this country from Italy as well.
And I bring this up and it's not I guess
to some degree it's anecdotal, but it's it's really not.
(01:24):
I think it's a common I think it's a common
experience among many Italian immigrants, but not just Italian immigrants,
but I think Irish, German, Polish, you know the list French,
the list goes on and on.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How about English?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Okay, yeah, English immigrants as well.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I mean you brag about how your family just got here.
My family, my entire family was here before the revolution, now,
both sides, all the way back I sixteen generations, all
of them here in the colonies while they were still
British subjects.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, but do you think it was as important then, yeah,
for there to be a melting pot of a nation
in terms of I mean, there wasn't a lot of
folks that came to this country that didn't want to
be here. They didn't want to be part of it.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I mean, you could say about one third of the
country didn't necessarily want to be here since they came
across in slave ships. But Thomas Jefferson said, I mean
talking about back of the founding of the country. Thomas
Jefferson said that we should actually only be encouraging immigration
from European countries that have a history of republic rule
(02:37):
of democratic rule. That if we were simply importing people
who were used to tyrants or monarchs absolute monarchs as
their governmental structure, that they would not be able to
fit into the new free Republic of the United States
of America. They wouldn't understand what voting is all about.
They wouldn't understand their role in society. They wouldn't understand
(02:59):
the freedom that had been given to them and the
obligations that go along with those freedoms. They were saying
that you've got to you've got to be bringing people
into this country who understand what being part of a
liberal democracy was all about.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, I mean, I don't think there are a lot
of immigrants that came to this country that had any
understanding of any of that. What they knew that, well,
the British subjects did well, I mean British and Scottish.
But that's why I was talking about, you know, your
French and your Polish and Italian, your German immigrants. They
came to this country, right, and they didn't know, you know,
about John Winthrop, they didn't know about you know, Adam Smith,
(03:35):
the Wealth of Nations, right. I mean, they they hadn't read,
you know, a lot of the historical documents that we
cherish in this country. But a lot of them had
read like Independence, bag Getty's Burger Dress, for example.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
A lot of them did read the plaque on the
Statue of Liberty, but most things been to it. And
by the way that by the time we got immigration
waves coming from France, it was after the French Revolution.
By the time he started getting immigrant waves coming from Italy,
it was generally after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire,
but started having democratic traditions in those countries really before
we started seeing the massive waves of immigrations from those countries.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But I bring that up because I know my own father.
You know, he had had not read the Declaration of Independence,
he had not read the Gettysburg Address. I don't think
he had a full understanding. What he had a seemingly
he understood like the back of his hand, were those
founding principles that founded this nation, That all made this
(04:36):
that we are all created equal, that God gives us
our right, and that if if only given the opportunity.
He wasn't expecting equal outcome. No, he was only expecting
equal opportunity. And that's why I say, I don't think
it's my experience. You know, having a front row seat
to the American dream is not anecdotal. I think it is.
It is shared. Is something that is common with millions
(04:58):
of immigrants to this country.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We shouldn't want equal outcome. We should not want because
just because of what I want from my life, well,
what makes me happy won't necessarily make you happy. What
makes you happy won't necessarily make me happy. We shouldn't
want equal outcomes.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I should be able to.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Live my life and go and do what I want
to accomplish, and try and take advantage of the opportunities
that are reforming. And you should want to go and
live your life and try and do what you should do,
and take advantage of the opportunities that are before you.
And if you have different opportunities than I have, or
if you pursue those opportunities differently than I do, we
should both expect different outcomes based upon the pursuit.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
And I bring all of this up because Vice President JD.
Vance Hu was giving an interview with this was the
media outlet called Unheard on Heard dot com, and basically
he was talking about how you know, if you look
at Europe, basically they've let too many people in too quick,
(06:01):
and they haven't made sure that there was going to
be any cultural cohesion right, and he said that that
risks what he calls civic Balkanization. And ethnic hatred.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You're seeing it right out France. In Paris, France, they
have canceled their New Year's Eve celebrations at the Eiffel Tower.
And this is one of those if you're watching you know,
Dick Clarks Rock and New Year's Eve or whatever, they'll
show you as they go New Year's Eve's around the
world and they show you the lighting of the Eiffel
Tower and the fireworks going off the Eiffel Tower. It's
one of the most famous celebrations all around the world.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
They've canceled it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
This is not this year. They're not even gonna light it.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Up because of terror, because of security fears. That's what
they said.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Security fears, Well, what security fears from immigrant Muslim communities
in Paris that have not become part of the melting pot,
the multicultural melting pot.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
That is Paris. They have their own enclaves.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
They don't like Europe, they don't like white, traditional Europe,
and so they are fighting against it within Europe. They've
othered people within then with their own country.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So Vice President of Van's is basically saying, look, immigration
policy is much larger than just economics or border security, right,
It's about whether a nation can preserve its shared sense
of who it is frankly, a people, a culture, right,
I mean your civic identity that binds us all.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
If you don't love the Eiffel Tower, if you don't
love Notre Dame Cathedral, if you don't love Versailles, why
would you move to France?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
If you don't loconomic benefits? Okay, but government benefits.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But maybe you should recognize that some of that economic
government benefits comes from the culture that was France itself.
And if you can't respect and revere the culture of France,
you have no business living there as a citizen.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Same thing in the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
It's happening right here in the United States. You have
neighborhoods or cities, cities, entire cities that are functioning again,
that are functionally, you know, basically functionally separate worlds.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Dearborn Michigan. The mayor of Dearborn Michigan said, Christians are
not allowed in that city. Dearborn Michigan. This is not
you know, Mogadishu, This is Dearborn Michigan. Christians are not
allowed in that city. According to the mayor of that city.
Who happens to be a Muslim immigrant. And if you
don't love the culture of the United States of America,
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then you shouldn't be here. If you don't love the
ideas that created this country, then you shouldn't be here.
And if you cannot respect that this country was built
on a Judeo Christian work ethic, you have no business
being here.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
And see that. I think that's the difference, one of
the differences of immigration of the past and immigration today.
I think assimilation was the secret sauce. The melting worked
because America believed in a core culture and.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It usually took three generations to make that melting pot seamless.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
But that doesn't seem to be what's happening these days.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Let's get to the top three things you need no
before tomorrow. First thing you need before tomorrow. The US
sees another oil tanker leaving Venezuela over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
It's the third tanker season the past two weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
In addition, the US Coast Guards in the process of
chasing down yet another oil tanker that was not flying
any international flag heading out towards the Atlantic. Venezuela has
been usual what's called a shadow fleet of oil tankers
the smuggle oil out of the country in an effort
to avoid international sanctions against the regime. Last week, President
Trump announced an embargo and blockade against Venezuela with the
intent of ending the illicit oil trade that's propping up
(09:49):
the Maduro administration.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You know, there's a flurry of activity from pundits on
the right like Kandas Owens and Tucker Carlson. They are
suggesting that this whole Maduro attack, yeah, is because he's
not pro Israel. But the leading opponent of Maduro in
Venezuela is pro Israel.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
How about you just go with the most common thing.
Maduro is a narco terrorist who cheated in the last
election to maintain the dictatorship of a very important South
American country. Why do you need to go for some
crazy Kakamami conspiracy theory when the facts sitting in front
of your face will answer the questions.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well, they're just asking questions.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
No, they're asking stupid questions. Second thing you need over
before tomorrow. Over the weekend, a dump of Epstein files
was released to the public that included numerous pictures of
former President Bill Clinton. One picture includes an image of
an alleged victim of Epstein sitting on Clinton's lap e.
Several others feature Clinton in a hot tub with a
shirt off You've seen in the hot tub with Epstein's accomplice,
Gislaine Maxwell, and another woman who is alleged to be
a victim. President Clinton's chief of staff Anyel Urana, responded
(10:52):
to the photos, saying, there are two types of people here.
The first group knew nothing and cut Epstein off before
its crimes came to light. The second group continue with
relationships with him after we're in the first You.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Know, I'm not quite sure what is more obscene, President
Clinton topless in a hot tub or the allegations.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I would say the allegations and the third thing you
need to know before tomorrow, the Delaware Supreme Court rule
that Elon Musk is indeed entitled to the largest compensation
package for CEO and world history. Lower courts and Delaware
had ruled that Musk's one hundred and thirty nine billion
dollars pay for for Tesla by Tesla was excessive. However,
that pay package was approved by the company's board of
directors and seventy percent of the stockholders in the company.
(11:33):
The lower courts rulings have had a devastating impact on
Delaware's economy, as dozens of major corporations that move their
headquarters out of state as a result. Musk tweeted the
word vindicated after the State Supreme Court's ruling restored his.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Pay, and then he went and bought a new car. No,
he makes cars. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Worth he's worth more than the second and third richest
person on the planet combined.
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Speaker 4 (12:45):
So the President made an announcement today This is according
to the New York Times. Yeah, that a Pentagon official
announced that President Trump is going to basically embark on
the construction of a new type of ship for the
US Navy, and it's going to be called Trump Class battleships.
(13:13):
Oh my gosh, the left is going to go nuts.
You know, you had Trump Steaks, you have Trump hotels,
you have Trump golf courses, Trump University, and now Trump
the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, and now and there's there was Trump the Book.
I actually have at home, Trump the Board Game.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I do have an Oh nice, I do yeah. Uh.
And now there will be Trump Class battleships. So he
made this announcement with Defense Secretary Pete hegseith Uh and
the Secretary of the Navy, John falen Uh in Palm Beach, Florida.
And Trump has criticized the appearance and the function of
modern Navy warships. By the way, we are being out
(13:56):
gunned or outshipped, so to speak, by China when it
comes to our navy.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
They're making a lot more.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I'm interested to see what he's talking about here with
the battleship, because the battleship technically went obsolete back in
the night. By the nineteen eighties, I mean, the USS
New Jersey was the last battleship that we had. Reagan
did use it to bombard what was in Lebanon, but
(14:24):
battleships really were they became obsolete with the advent of
the aircraft carrier.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Uh So I'm interested to see.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
What he's actually talking about, whether these are really battleships
in the traditional sense or whether it's just these.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Are cruisers, these destroyers. What are these?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And the Navy has always named ships, you know, symbolically
or out of honor for presidents, sometimes for states or cities, heroes, otherwise.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Well a lot of times a right, So Nimmt's aircraft carriers,
so that the USS Nimmts was part of the Nimts
class of aircraft carrier. It just landed back in Bremerton
Shipyard up in Washington State after having toward Asia. It's
probably his last tour. It's on his way towards Norfolk,
eventually to be scuttled. The Nimts was named after Rear
Admiral Chester Nimitz, who was basically the leader of the
(15:22):
Pacific Fleet during World War Two. So we will have
aircraft carriers named after individuals. You know, the Dwight Eisenhower,
We've got the HW Bush, We've got the Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
So we've named.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Aircraft carriers after presidents in the past, so it's not
it's just usually not the president that's currently in office
that we named these afters.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Well, the left, I'm sure they just don't want anyone
to ever remember the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
We got a question for our American mamas. Dear mama's,
did you see the story about Conan O'Brien blaming Jason
Bateman for killing his parents?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Well, let's ask our American mamas, mamma.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
And joining us now our American mama's Terry Netteville and
Kimberly Burlison.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
This is a story that was told by.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
I'm blanking on Urnette, Will Arnette. Thank you so much,
Will Arnette. He was he's doing his podcast with Conan
O'Brien and they're talking about when Conan O'Brien's parents passed away.
I'm not going to do justice to the story, so
I'm just gonna play this is Will Arnette talking to
Conan O'Brien. Already here we go.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
So I hear that that your your dad passes away
and I text you and I said, hey, listen, I'm
sorry to hear about your dad's passing, sending love from
our family to yours, and you wrote, thank you. Will
to be honest, I blame Bateman for.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
The death of my for the death of my father.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
The day after his father dies, yeah, so I wrote,
it's not a terrible theory and contexted me back, he
killed my dad.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Can I say, in fairness, my dad would have loved this, okay.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
The next day, Bateman texts you and he says, Arnette
tells me you're onto me yes, and ConA texts Babman.
He says, Babeman, do yourself favor, turn yourself in. Two
days after your dad passes. Of course your mom passed away, Yeah,
which we didn't I did not see coming, but did
not see coming. So I text you two days after,
(17:25):
I said, Bateman is asking for your sister street address.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
And the funny thing was a couple of days late
because Conan didn't see his messages for a couple of days.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
He sees his message.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
A couple days later and texts Arnette the street adjust
for his sister and says, make it look like a robbery. Okay,
this is my humor, is it?
Speaker 8 (17:53):
This is my This cracked me up because we talk
about that like so often when we are together as
a family and we talk about our parents or we
are in the midst of grieving, we always laugh and
we say, nobody could could listen to this and think
that we're okay. We would so be judged, We would
so be judged. But to me, it's the best way
(18:15):
to get through grief is to be able to laugh.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
It really is a it's an interesting and again, Conan
is a comedian, will learned that's a funny, funny guy.
Jason Bateman's a funny guy. For them to carry this
joke on as a way of showing, you know, support
and instead of just saying, you know, our sympathies, you're like, okay, yeah,
you know what, Conan will play along. Yeah, I find
(18:40):
that an interesting friendship.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Yes, yeah, I think we grew up with a dad
that had this kind of humor, and even our grandmother,
his mom, who was a preacher's wife. So in people,
I think I've had friends say I think the biggest
surprised Harry was you have this irreverent humor that we don't,
but that is like my favorite kind of humor.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Oh yeah, and you do have an eruption.
Speaker 8 (19:03):
Well, Terry's hilarious. Terry is hilarious, especially the later it gets,
the funnier she gets. But when our grandmother died, Terry
sat at the front of the church and she shared
some of our Gracie stories that entire First of all,
it was packed, the balcony was packed, and people were rolling,
and people left saying, that is the best funeral I
(19:24):
have ever been to in my entire life, because Terry
had them rolling.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
Because she wanted that She wanted us to tell her
Gracy star is. She wanted people to know that side
of her. So she had a successful funeral, a successful funeral.
But what was so great about is I think a
lot of people go to funerals thinking that you can't laugh,
you know, you're not allowed. It's not a place to
But if you allow them to see a side of
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your loved one that brings them to life in a
way they never knew them, then everyone's like, you celebrate
you truly celebrate that life. But here's here's my thing. Okay,
so these are all lefties, right, will Aarnett and Bateman
and John Bryan.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Yeah, I don't know if they're the far left. Well,
they certainly left a center.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Yeah, they're left enough. Yes, and they have great humor, yes,
until Trump says something and he means it to be funny,
and then all of a sudden they don't. Like we
were talking the other day about jd Vance, you know
that writer for Vanity Fair say that jd Vance was
making You know, we know it was a joke, but
he said, Hey, to the photographer, I'll give you a
(20:29):
hundred dollars if you make me look better than them.
I'll give you a thousand if you can make me
look better than Marco Rubio. And they were like, I mean,
he's so competitive. We all know it's a joke. This
crew of guys. If it was someone on the left,
they'd say, that's the kind of humor we like. So
it's like, sometimes I feel like the left forgets humor
when it comes to us on the right, we have
just as much fun. I loved I loved that humor.
(20:50):
I like a little bit of that irreverent because I
get it. I get it our dad. I won't go
into the whole story, but there's a phrase that our
family uses whenever somebody dies that it's so irreverent, but
it's so funny that we all can collectively come together
like Okay, we're still here, and that person loved what
we just said, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
And there is a way of connecting people with humor.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean, if if you can make someone laugh, you've
created a connection with that person in a way that
making them cry doesn't necessarily always do.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
I love the story.
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All Right, there are some that say, you know, President
Trump is the most pro life president we have had
in our nation's history. I think you.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Can make that argument. I certainly think that Actually, if
you go back in time before Roe V. Wade, I
would think most presidents were actually rather pro life. Maybe
not Woodrow Wilson, but certainly with George Washington was pro life,
that they thought abortion was.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
An awful sin.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But certainly in the modern time, the only one who's
close I think, at least in actions is rom O Reagan.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Well, there are many folks that say now that President
Trump is, or at least some people around him, are
now more focused about how the abortion messaging might affect
Republican chances in the twenty twenty six midterms than about
the moral substance of the issue itself. That underlies the
(23:26):
fact that so many would say that he is the
greatest or the most pro life president in our nation's history.
So the question is, you know, President Trump always wanted
to return the debate for abortion back to the States
and I say the debate, maybe that's being a little
too the fight liberal in that he always wanted to
(23:50):
basically take it out of federal control.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right, because that's what Robby Wade did. Robby Wade took
it away from the states and gave it to the
federal government. If you'll read the Constitution, that was not
one of the things that was listed as a power
of the federal government. And so the Tenth Amendment says
that anything that's not expressly given to the federal government
is reserved to the people or to the states. So
this should have been a state issue from day one.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
The Roe v.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Wade decision of seventy three got the constitution one wrong.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
So the question is, you know, is Trump in twenty
twenty six, is he going to be as strong for
pro life issues even though those have been returned to
the states for example.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Right, here's what the Republicans need to do, And honestly,
you've got to listen on this. You've got to listen
to this point. Being pro life is not just about
being anti abortion. You want to win over people who
aren't happy that we've returned this debate back to the states.
What you have to do is you have to be
putting together policies that support the single mom that that
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can't have an abortion, because you you need to be
supporting the child for adoption and for fostering. It's too
expensive to adopt a child in this country. We've got
to bring those costs down well.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Being pro life is not just being anti abortion, it's not.
It's about preserving the sanctity of life at every stage
of life.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
And I would say that that you need to be
offering counseling. We need to be making it to where
anyone who's actually had an abortion is able to get
the mental counseling they need to go through that grief,
because right now that's something that's been you're supposed to
celebrate the murder on the left that you're supposed to
celebrate your abortion. Why would you celebrate something so painful
as an abortion. So the right has got to step
(25:35):
up and start fighting for the right to life of
mothers as well if you want to continue pushing this
argument forward.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Right, So, I hope that one of President Trump's greatest
legacies won't get watered down.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
No, No, you've got to be on a bachelorly pro life.
But that means all life. Let's dig deep, going down down.
So Chuck Todd was the host to Meet the Press
on NBC for nearly a decade before being let go
last year. He's now doing hits on other channels, including
(26:11):
Newsmax and over the weekend he was on Newsmax and
he was asked why people just don't trust the media,
and here's his answer.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
You got a clip tock to listen.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
I think that the collapse of trust in overall institutions,
the media in some ways is a reflection of that distrust,
and so that we may be reporting what the quote
unquote experts tell us. But if the public doesn't trust
those experts, and then we in the media are quoting
those experts, they don't trust us too.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
So Chuck Todd says, the reason why people don't trust
the media is because the media trusts. It's because the
people don't trust the media the experts, and the media
is simply quoting experts. So it's not the media's fault,
it's the experts fault.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
So it's the transference. Yeah, of I guess distrust, right.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
You don't trust the experts, so therefore we don't trust
the media. But he's missing some very important details. The
reason why people don't trust so called experts is that
too many times the experts didn't know what in the
world they were talking about, or they were intentionally hiding
the truth about what they were talking about. People don't
trust the experts because over and over and over and
over again, the experts were wrong, and not just wrong,
(27:26):
obviously wrong. Our Declaration of Independence would have called it
self evidently wrong. And the media didn't just quote the experts.
They treated every word the experts said as if it
was gospel, as if it was unquestionably true. And worse,
if anyone did question those experts, the people in the
(27:46):
media said, well, anyone questioned the experts must be a
conspiracy theorist, or a nut job, or worse, a Republican.
We could demonstrate this with COVID very easily. That's one example.
But let's just take a more recent example. Joe Biden's
mental health. The experts, Koreem John Pierre, president Biden's physician,
probably Vice President Kamala Harris, anyone who is a Democrat.
(28:07):
They all assured us Joe Biden was as fit as
he had ever been, crossed my heart and hoped to
die he was sharp as attack. That was obviously wrong
to anyone with a pair of working eyeballs, but Chuck
Todd and his co hurts in big media just nodded along.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yep, Joe Sharpes's attack. Definitely Sharpenes's attack. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
But that's a lie. That's more than just I mean,
you're you're deliberately lying that, Chuck Todd. Is why folks
don't trust journalists because.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
They were completely wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
You're lying to people. It's not just merely that the experts,
so to speak, are you know, I guess, compromised or biased.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
If you have a group of experts and the experts say,
you know, there's a doctor that says Joe Biden is
mentally compromised. However, there's another doctor over here that says,
I don't buy that decision. So that's now quoting experts
and just leaving it up to them. That's not what
the media was doing. If any Republican tried to come
out and say Joe Biden's mentally compromised, they go, well,
how do you say that? How dare you say that?
(29:09):
All right, So Chuck Todd then tried to diagnose why
people don't trust the experts anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Take a listen.
Speaker 10 (29:16):
I put the blame on big tech and algorithms that
sort of I think make it too easy for too
many people to live in a bubble, a filter bubble.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, So the reason that people don't trust the experts
is because we're all living in a bubble.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
No, no, no, no. The reason the.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Media was wrong was because they were living in their
own trust the expert echo chamber.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Well, I mean, who picked the experts the laugh exactly?
Who ignored the dissenting ones the last okay, and the
big media.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
The reason the rest of the country knew the media
was wrong was because we could see the truth on
social media when regular people started posting simple video clips
hold on what was true and what wasn't true was shattered.
This isn't that the country was living in a bubble.
It's that people in the media, like Chuck Todd, were
(30:11):
living in a bubble and their bubble said, you've got
to trust the experts. Fauci's been in government for forty
seven years. He must know everything.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And it's not just the expert, it's experts. I would say,
it's also the government. And if the government says it,
they print it, or they repeat it. Well, because the
government is the expert, unless it's the Trump administration, and
then of course you say the opposite R. But I mean,
I guess where I'm going with that is is that
you know, if the government says it and you print it,
(30:40):
or if an agency asserts it, and then you'd give
it a platform. Right, that's not journalism. That is basically
you know you're doing pr and if.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You're only selecting one group of experts, let's go to
global warming. There are a bunch of global warming experts
I consider myself one who say carbon diox is not
the big problem. The media won't talk to those experts.
They only talk to the experts who are wrong. As
long as people like Chuck Todd refuse to admit that
(31:12):
they weren't just wrong, but that they were obviously wrong,
people like you and me will continue to have good
reason not to trust the media. It's not because of
their experts, it's because they don't know what they're doing either.
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Speaker 4 (32:14):
Mayor New York City mayor elects zorin. Ma'm danny right.
And by the way, folks are reporting that he is
I guess he is a Democrat, registered Democrat.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Mom, Donna, Yeah, he's a registered Democrat.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
But he's a socialist. I mean, he believes in Why
do you deist ideology?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Why do you think there's a dichotomy between communists and
the Democrat Party these days?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Well, there really is there. There really isn't they eventually.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I mean, you've got factions of the Democrat Party. You
do have still some uh, they don't necessarily want socialism, they.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
Just want big, big government.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Then you've got some factions that actually don't want really
any they just want anarchy. That's the Antifa faction.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Then you've got basically the the Muslim Jihadis faction that
wants Sharia law to come in.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
They just don't want to tell you yet. Ill hann Omar.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And then you have the socialist faction AOC Bernie Sanders
that they say they want democratic socialism. What they really
are going to end up trying to get the United
States to go to is communism.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Okay, And so, of course Iran Mandami after January first,
will no longer be mayor elect.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
He's going to be mayor.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
He's going to be mayor of New York City. He's
going to be sworn into office January first, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
A communist will be the mayor of our financial center
of America, the financial center of.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The world, and he will be sworn in by the
socialist darling of the nation.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Senator Bernie Sanders as well as Trump Trump derangement syndrome
and New York Attorney General Letitia James.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Oh yeah, formerly indicted Attorney General Leticia James uh indicted
for mortgage fraud.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean think of the symbolism here, right, I mean,
anyone can administer an oath. Yeah, but you're having Bernie
Sanders swear in Ma'm Danny. I mean that's obviously not
an accident.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Look, I just hope it's not so cold out.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So I remember how cold it was when Biden was sworn.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
In, and then he brought a folding chair.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Yeah, I sitting there a big jacket.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I wonder.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I mean, that'd be funny to have his mittens. As
he says to mom, Donnie, raise your right hand.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
So you've got ma'm Danny, you've got Sanders, you've got
Letitia James. I mean, Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
This that's the what the Democrat Party wants to be.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Bernie Sanders zoramm Donnie, And they want to use the
Attorney General's office to put anyone they disagree with in
jail while they commit acts of crime like mortgage fraud
that benefits their family.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
That's the Difficut Party today. Let's get to a bright spot.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm doing all right, getting good grades.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So Mullins is a small town in South Carolina, only
about four thousand, six hundred people living in Mullins, South Carolina.
There's a private group in the town called the Mullins
Beautification Committee.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Love that.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
The beautification committee.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
So Kimberly Bird is the head of the Mullens Beautification Committee,
and they told the city they would put up some
Christmas decorations around the downtown square and the idea was
to make the town center look.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Like a Hallmark movie. You've watched those Hallmark Christmas.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Don't get me started on Hallmark movies. Okay, but they
all follow the same script.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yes, and they're so small town and a small town
is a Christmas festival and it looks so beautiful, right,
And that's what they wanted Mullins to look like, was
that small town beautiful Christmas.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Okay, all right, I mean they're just they're kind of sacker,
and I get all that in point of this, all right, Okay,
the MITE bought and put up some decorations, including snowman, Santa,
some candles, and a Nativity scene in lights, usual Christmas stuff.
Right wait wait wait wait wait, you're gonna use a
Nativity scene?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
The government?
Speaker 3 (36:12):
No, no, no, no, this was the Beautification committee.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
It's a private group of citizens.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
They used their own money to put it up.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
But then the mayor of Mullens stepped in.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Democrat Mayor Miko Pickett wants Miss Bird.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
She went to Miss Bird.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
And asked her to take down the Nativity scene. She
said it might be offensive to some residents. The mayor,
the Democrat mayor of this small town of South Carolina,
thought a Nativity scene wasn't appropriate to be part of
the town's Christmas decorations. Christ Mass decorations in.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Rural South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
This isn't upstate New York, this isn't California. This is
South freaking Carolina. So there was a bit of an
opera about this, and then the mayor had to defend herself,
so she tried to clear fire point on Facebook. She wrote,
I requested that the Nativity scene be removed solely from
the all caps public parking area. Okay, so she's yelling
at people now. The reason for this is the separation
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of church and state applies to municipalities as well, regarding
religious symbols on public property in parks, not if it's
done with private money and anyway, Kimberlee Bird.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
The same time, though, I mean it is using public
property to advance Christmas. So if I'm not disagreeing real.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Quick, if the city wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Are they
not allowed to put up a manora?
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Technically? No, But would they technically technically with that I would.
I think they would have an argument to be made, and.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I think in a lot of courts these days, they'd
lose that argument, especially if it's done with private money. Well,
Kimberly Bird and the Molle's Beautification Committee stood the ground.
They said, no, we paid for these with our money.
We are celebrating the birth of Christ, and in order
to celebrate the birth of Christ, we are going to
have a light to blay that depicts the actual birth
of Christ.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
She told Fox News.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I never thought I'd have to do anything like this,
but at the end of the day, we have to
stand for what we believe in and what is right.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Well, yeah, I mean, look, tolerance does not mean erasing traditions, right,
I mean, you know, the mayor here was probably trying
to be tolerant of those I think the mayor.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Was trying to be intolerant. I think she's trying to
be intolerant.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Christians, well under the banner of tolerance, right, She's.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Trying to use tolerance as a cudgel to silence Christians.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
But you know, pretending that faith especially at Christmas doesn't exist.
I mean, that's the real insult, especially to the millions
of citizens for whom Christmas is not a shopping season
but a sacred celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
And allowing private citizens to celebrate their religion is not
the government establishing one.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
You're listening to American Ground Radio.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Welcome back to American Ground Radio, Stephen part of Lewis.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So, you know, back to this whole idea of whether
the government can prevent a Nativity scene from being placed
in a public place or public square otherwise, right, you know,
the government does not have and this is under the
United States Constitution. The government does not have the blanket
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authority to ban a Nativity scene simply because quote some
folks might get offended close quote. Offense is not a
legal standard. It never has been. Now, the First Amendment
prohibits the establishment of religion.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So government's not allowed to say you have to be
part of this religion. Government's not allowed to say this
is the official religion of our government. But that's not
what allowing people to put up a Nativity scene.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Is well, And the government can't silence lawful expression simply
because they're trying to avoid discomfort. If that were the rule,
then free speech would have died decades ago.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
You can't have a free society without people being offended.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Now, you just can't. Now, can the city impose neutral
rules about the time and place and manner, Yes, absolutely.
Can it single out a Nativity scene because it's religious,
Absolutely not. That's viewpoint discrimination And it loses in every
court every time.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
And I'm not saying you have to have Nativity scenes
up year round, but denying people the right to put
up a Nativity scene at Christmas, we've got to say
whoa whoa.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
When I say whoa ah, I mean whoa.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Well.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Over the weekend, an airplane safely landed at Denvers, a
Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport. And that may not sound like
a big deal, but it was actually the first landing
of its kind. You see, the pilot of the plane
had passed out after the cabin suffered from depressurization. In
every other instance that happened in the past, the plane
eventually crashed, killing everyone on board. But this plane had
new technology installed, the Garmin Auto land safety feature. When
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the plane's computer system realized the pilot wasn't awake and
in control, the plane took over, radioed ahead to the
nearest airport, saying they were experiencing pilot incapacitation and telling
the tower when the plane would be landing. The tower
cleared all the other air traffic away from the airport
as the plane safely landed on its own, marking the
first time the technology was used in a real emergency.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That is pretty impressive, Pretty amaze. That's ai I could
really give behind.
Speaker 6 (41:45):
Now your pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Bring you joy,
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