June 19, 2025 • 33 mins
Brian Pace, with Pace Development Group, joins Trent and Patrick on "At Home with Roby". Brian shares how he built a family business, overcame recession challenges, and got involved with the HBA—eventually recruiting Trent. Hear personal stories and insights from his journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to at Home with Roby. This is Patrick mccaac
from Roby Commercial and Services along with Trent Hayston from
the Roby Family of Companies. We are your hosts. Trent,
we are driving on this podcast platform. I think we're
getting a little more comfortable. Kelvin. I think we're like
halfway to getting him to liking us.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I liked you guys from day one. I don't know
if that's about That's what I thought, That's how I felt.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
But I think sometimes I'm overly aggressive on my self thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I just see if you were paying attention back there, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, it's all good always. I'm locked in, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm telling you got some slick ear. We call these.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Headphones all the headphones, Dope, those are cool.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Let's have like some chrome inside.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, that's bringing in He's he's bringing in the fodder today.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Trying to accessorize. Man all I got.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Man, My good buddy, Josh Brent, I've been on the
show before, gave me a nice pair. We went on
a fishing trip about three four weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not these.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Patrick gave me a nice pair of cost of sunglasses.
I said, Man, I forgot to bring my sunglasses and
he's so cool. We're about to go out on the
boat and he pulls out three brand new pair, three
different colors, and he's like, hey, take a take a pick.
You can have them. I'm like, what, I'm in the game.
So for the last month I've been worried about scratching them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Hold on, you still have them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I still have them.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
But the other day, on the way back from the beach,
they fell out of my lap. I was holding them
in my hand, put him in my lap. I was
driving and they fell down and my wife's riding shotgun
and I say, can you pick my glasses up? And
I about said, please make sure you don't scratch them,
and they got it like a little I mean it
is like a quarter of an inch scratch, but it's
right in the middle of the left lends and two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And fifty dollars is just sitting the same.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, Well, I think I've hit on you for
the hit this on this show before. But you don't
want to be reincarnate it into your phone or a
pair of your sunglasses.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, here's my phone.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is it looking good?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Said?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Looking pretty good? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
My phone case been opening some Corona bottles lately it's
a little gnarly on the corner.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Better in your phone base than your teeth. I will
say that's probably a much better use of it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I've never opened a bottle of anything with my teeth.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You'd never seen somebody to do that before.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
My teeth are weak.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I've seen people do it. My teeth don't need
I want to go away. I mean, geez, I'm trying
to protect my teeth.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey, let me ask you a question. Let me ask
you a question. Have you ever been into a cyber
truck before?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I have not? You have not?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So Josh Norris Green Brothers, I'm gonna call nout. He's
been on the show we went to. Uh he does.
He is part of Sonic Culture in Cottswall two. So
we been did that Saturday and we come out. That's
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're doing this on a regular basis now.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, I've probably done it four times where you go
into like this, it's like one hundred and fifty six
degree song and then you go in like a forty
eight degree water to do it back. Supposed to be
really healthy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Why you look so good these days?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't know that he is looking good, isn't he
twenty four seven?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Didn't miss troll, didn't miss the beat, So we'll give
him some sign of culture. It's pretty cool. So we
come walking out and he's he walks over to a
cyber truck, like what do you What do you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He's like, oh, this is my brother's you ever been
in one of these? Like no, Like do you want to?
He's like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
This.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Damn thing's absolutely haul ass. I hate to cuss, but
it is. He goes you ready, I'm like, we're ready
for what?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It was pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
We went picked up scarling, got a couple of smoothies,
and then came back to the house.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But you're really embracing the hipster lifestyle. I felt pretty hip.
It's pretty cool man. I have mean, I had my
my sunglasses all we were chilling. I mean about six
years ago, seven years ago, when Tesla, the Tesla car
first came out. I was with Rich Ballot. He had
a Tesla. I mean, this is like year one. Yeah
(04:00):
I could see that and he's like I didn't. I'm like, Okay,
I get in it, and I feel like I'm on
the moon. The moon roof and the big screen and
all that. Now you have big screens in a lot
of vehicles, but you didn't have it then. And then
he said, all right, you're ready, and we were going
about seventy in about three seconds, and my back was
kind of hurting, like I have sunburn.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I hadn't slept you yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, we're recording two shows today, so I still have sunburn,
the same sunburn I had on the last show. Do
you have any aloe?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Patrick?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't carry that typically with me at all times,
but I'm sure someone around here probably hook it up.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So we'll give an update.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think we were in the mid one thousand sharp
teeth this time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I was gonna bring my little baggy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
On one trip.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, well last year this trip we had six thousand.
We found okay, I think we put in more hours
and it was it was better. I don't know why
we did a whole show if you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Haven't ever heard it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tatum, my daughter's who hunts with me, came on it
and we talked about the virtues of shark tooth hunting.
But I got to do some of that that that
is how I got sunburned. But we found about fifteen
hundred sharks teeth this time.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So incredible. Does does Riddick bow Byram get out there
in shark tooth with you?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, he did not look for teeth with me this
year at all.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay, last year he generally the by Rooms bow Byrons
the show they go to the beach with our family.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But no he did not. Generally he gives me one
morning he'll go help with me.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And because because where I like my mom's house where
we go with Surfside Beach, which is right below South Myrtle,
So a good place to look is the heart of
Myrtle Beach. So where I go at like five thirty
six in the morning is the main pier. I mean
z Row Avenue, first avenue of Myrtle Beach. At six
(06:04):
o'clock in the morning, you get half the people that
are there's a bunch of people out there, but half
the people that are there still out there from the
night before and just listening to these folks as wow,
and then you know you get people coming out and
by nine or ten, I mean the beach is full
of sunbathers and partygoers.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It is really a fun time.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
So how many people are out there do you think
that are there from the night before. If you get
twenty thirty hundreds.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
In the tens, let's call it ten to one hundred,
depending on the night. I mean, you know, Monday Tuesday
morning is not just less Saturday morning Saturday morning, and
when you're at the beach, you know, you don't really
think of day's too much unless you get up in
the morning, got do some work. You don't do that
on Saturdays as much as you do on Wednesdays. But
(06:57):
I'm looking at our guest today because I know East
feels that and you feel that.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So yeah, but uh, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I appreciate Myrtle Beach and the Carolina Country Music Fest
was down there while we were there. It was down
there this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We did not go. I have been.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I went when Eric Church was there. Uh so you
had all those folks in town as well, So well cool.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You looked at our guests, mentioned our guest. He up
our guest.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, Brian pace Pace Development.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We were telling old stories before we got on the
air over his three generations in Charlotte. Uh more generations,
but his business, I think is three generations old. We'll
talk about that and and old properties and old doings.
So it's gonna be fun. And Brian and I have
(07:51):
known each other for a long time. He single handily
made the phone call to recruit me before I really
knew him for the Homebookers Associate board back in I
think it was nine. I'm pretty pretty sure that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So you remember those calls. Ron Weatherley got me for anary.
I'll never forget. I was like, oh, do I say,
what do I do?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well? Yes, I was in.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I was on serving on the County's Building Development Commission
board at the time, and uh I stepped out. We
had played phone tag. I remember stepping out of one
of our board meetings and they were talking about how
bad it was. I was like, Andrew Roby at the time,
Custom Residential was trailing a little bit. We didn't feel
(08:36):
the effects of eight to oh.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Nine as early.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I walked out and he said, hey, to be on
the Homebowners Association board.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I was like, Okay, here we go. So anyway that was.
That was a long time ago, but a wonderful memory. Brian.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I can't wait to have you on. We'll be back
here listening to at Home with Ruby.
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Speaker 3 (09:20):
Hey, hey, and we got Brian Pace sitting beside us
in the room. Look at the camera, Brian, Hey, Hey.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's Brian Pace, first time in the studio.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Pace Pace, Pace Pace. That's how they'd say it, like
it something, make you sound feel special.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But if Kelvin has done his job and recorded all
the fodder before and between segments, I think we get
We don't, we can stop.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It actually was pretty good radio. That was That's exactly
what we Brian was all nervous coming in here and
I'm not sure what to say. Brought a note brood contract.
It's funny you say that we signing.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's funny you say that because I actually have been
recording everything in between.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But by accident.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You have that so excellent leverage. That's a hot make
for real Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I don't know where the now. You got a
new three ring. They have a new notepath. That's good. Yeah,
that's for you.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, my daughter she didn't need one for college.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I'm supposed to write I love you, Brian.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We're both supposed to write something.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We'll sign it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, we're supposed to do that. I don't know why
we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Falling down.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're a little transition period here.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So the way we originally met as people talking other
than knowing of each other, uh, is you recruited me
to be on the homeowners Association board we I think
it was eight I think yeah, and uh, and it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Was a great year in the industry.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It was talking to them.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It was the worst, uh, the worst time ever in
my generation of life.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
In business, the beginning of the crash.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so you were talking about Homebowner's Association used to
do this thing, and I think they did it all
over the country home rama and it'd have a really
high end development developer neighborhood and eight or ten houses
would be showcase, really nice luxurious houses. And you said,
(11:26):
y'all had a home rama in the Palisades in eight
three days after Wells Fargo.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't know if they actually bought.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
They beat them in the head and took them.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
The government beat him in the head.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It came in a back with a baseball bat.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah. It was not good.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And and I was so proud of Wacovia in my
whole life. I think my Wells Fargo checking statement says
remembers since seventy eight. I was born in seventy eight. Wow,
And that was because of Wakovia. So that was not good.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I think their stock with what something.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh man, it was awful. It was. It was bad.
And you said you had ten three ish million dollar houses.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
There were in that neighborhood. They had ten on display.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Unfortunately, Brian, do you remember if they if they did
end up ultimately selling at that time, or did they
sit as inventory. I mean, there's so much inventory to
set during that period.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It was a dark time for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think those builders in particular are probably not in
business anymore, which is really the saddest part of the recession.
It took you know, career builders, career developers, you know,
completely out of the market when you know the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Banks came calling and notes came good people life became
very challenging.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I mean it you were just time.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Family businesses were crushed.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
You were holding the bag when the music stopped. I mean,
it really wasn't like anybody being malicious or bad people
or anything along those lines.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Very few emerged after, or if they emerged, they looked
totally different.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, we were in the we're in the custom
high end residential business. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's really was our one trick pony going into
that recession, third generation family business. I would not sleep
and get in the bathtub and moan and groan and pray.
At three and four in the morning. My wife would
wake up and say, are you gonna be okay? And
I was like, I don't think, I am, I don't
I think. I think fifty eight years is going down.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
It's exactly why none of my daughters will even entertain
the idea of coming into construction business with.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Her day really because they saw, they saw that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They lived through that. Me coming home in the evenings,
I don't know, baby, We're gonn figure it out.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
We were gonna figure it out, but it was far off.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I did everything from mowing grass to doing whatever
it took to keep our neighborhoods alive and for a.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Period of time that was not much light at the
end of the horizon. Uh, it was dark. So h wow,
we have that in common as well. Thank you for
recruiting me today, HbA.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I will say my the HbA Europe, so I served
in eight and Charlotte as a president.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So I think it might have been right after me.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think I was the recruiter to talk another sucker
into it, and you were the sucker. There were a
couple of others Alan Banks, Yeah, a couple of other
good guys Buddy's mine and y'all did have to make
some really hard decisions, Danny Kelly, really tough decisions. Had
to change how HbA operated Homama story we just went through.
(14:31):
It's not how they operate anymore. They have amazing sponsorships
to do a lot more things, but they still there's
still core values that that networking guys that are in
small businesses that are a lot stronger together than apart
and fighting their battles by amen. And so what the
HbA taught me and you know, you just got to
give back to that industry that's feeding you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And I know you thought that or you want to join.
And while you're laughing about the time I suckered you
into it, it's like I still stay active in it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'm not on the board or doing.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I was about to say, I'll I mean, I don't
go to a ton of HB events, but I feel
like everyone I go to you're there. I see it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I mean, it's funny. I used to be the youngest
guy in the room and now I'm not. I don't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's like it happens overnight. I feel the same way.
I mean, we were really involved in Neary also and
where the young bucks. Now you go there and it's like, dang,
whatill happened?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And I've taken it kind of to the Raleigh level
because Raleigh does have n C HbA, and they have
so much influence with our legislature of things that are
going on that affect our bottom line and our businesses
and can affect housing affordability, which is really their number
one core protection. The only ones out there fighting for
houses affordability, and nobody listens to us because we're a
(15:42):
bunch of builders that they just think we're out to
make money.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's it. But anyway, so but you you stayed involved.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah yeah, And Dave MacGuire's coo, yep. We so we
believe in that. We believe in giving back and being
a leader in our industry. And it's funny the names
you said. I mean, Danny Kelly. I mean truly me
and him are like brothers. I mean you don't see
(16:12):
him for a year or two. When you see him,
you hug and you're like, let's go to the pub
and hang out and talk about all times.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So that's two n C State guys.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You actually have to like you guys associate well with
You would fit you would fit in all over and
I would. And then uh so I could tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Morgan Smith too before we forget, is also on the
board HbA, which is supportive.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We have a guy Charlie Fondell on the board, okay, cool, Charlie's.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
One of our one of the point.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And Alan Banks uh I think he was president, uh
maybe right before.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Me Evans cock Hill and and I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He called me up six months ago and we chewed
the cut for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like we had a board meeting in an hour.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He's a good he's a good guy.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Alan Banks, guy named Gary Emblers of Nibble Homes. Yeah,
he was real active up in Cabars County and the
three of us we went up to Raleigh together and
were real active. And it was the first time there
are a lot of guys from Charlotte and raleighcause they
don't listen to us in Raleig because we're Charlotte. Yeah,
they don't give us that time of day. And it
was kind of nice. They called it. They called us
(17:20):
the Charlotte Mafia. At the NCAA, everything that came through
that had anything to strugg we made sure went hop
top of the agenda.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's some respect there.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It was fun.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And that was like in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
so after the Great Recession had chilled out down here.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The therapy for me was that thing, that recession we're
talking about. It was it was happening across the state
and if you just stayed in your bubble in Charlotte,
you felt like the whole world was collapsing. It was
it was interesting to be able to get out and
see how how different markets were being affected and how
for sure, we had some great metrics here that probably better.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Than other places.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
But to me, I always called those years and when
I was volunteer in HbA, it was more therapy than
me than it was that I could do for them.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's right. So we look at it the same way.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So so tell us about your your business and growing
up and how you grew up and grew.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Up in the business and give us that State wolf back.
All right, tar Hill you do this thing? Is that?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I don't know, don't.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Know what is the tar Hill thing? It's like, what
is that thing? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We don't do anything. It's like that the ram. That's
the tar Hill hand yester number one. If you're looking,
I have a tar Hill hand Jester, I won't put
it in. It's a different number one number. Was that
number one?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're number one?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Number eleven like forty one. We're all out of the
a SEC or the n C Double A baseball tournament
with we can.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
All lost this weekend.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
State lost last weekend, and quite frankly, baseball it's about
the only thing that's really authentic anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So it's fun to watch. State has effectively bought our
way into basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Team this year, next year, which we did nothing this
year and last year we're in the final four.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Sounds like that un C football team done it. Yeah,
I'm a Clemson guy, full disclosure. So we can hearry
o the redneck of the of the.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
A C C. We have tar Hill Bill tar Bill.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
How long this gonna last?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Wonder?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We will kind of like Musk and Trump. I don't know,
We'll see see how it unfolds. It's like soap opera here.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The Buccaneers might be looking for a coach, but that's
another topic for another day. You were gonna tell us
how you grew up.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
So yeah, well second really second second generation Pete our
company Pace Development. I started actually in a company up
in the DC syntax you probably heard that name out
of college, out of n C State and bounced around
with them. Fortunately found a wife that moved to shan
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before me and I chased her here and uh Dad
and I hooked up at that time and kind of
became the development company that we are today as well.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
As contracting construction and everything else. So yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
What year was that ninety four?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So you you partnered with your father.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And multiple different things for sure, that is cool.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yeah, but he uh, he had us.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
He had a he's a he's a Carolina grad CPA degree.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He is smart, so very smart.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You said that without a beat, and I like it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I uh and I had the engineering degree from State
and together somehow we made uh.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
We made mayonnaise, I guess.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But yeah, I have heard that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But he uh but yeah, no, long, long, long story short.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
We wound, you know, kind of grew the team became,
you know, we had to be a little bit more
diverse with that recession. We talked about we used to
build just neighborhoods, and we started building houses and anything
that went in the neighborhood and outside of a neighborhood.
And we do it for ourselves and others. So we're
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kind of a construction manager for a lot of different
companies too. And we really have made our made our
way to kind of a place that we have enough
diverse business that you know, we're not not one one
side of the businesses feeding us.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
And you learned that because of that recession. We had
conversation about.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
But he passed uh eight eight years ago January, so
God bless you. So that's the that was the end
of that ride, unfortunately, but not the influence. And for
sure he he's in my thoughts every day every day
I walk into headquarters, and our company I think lives
that pretty well too. We have a lot of charity
(21:41):
events and things were involved in the Yeah, he's he's
his memory is never gonna be forgotten.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So well, well, was he real active in the Boy
Scouts of America?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He was?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Because I play in the in your golf tournament last
couple of years, and I don't know how you slay
just terrible.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I played bad. You were with you were, you were
with stuff, But I know how you turned in. You
didn't turn much of a score.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, I was with stuff. Cut.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Let's just take the next four minutes and just drill
on scuff cut. Just with three or four minute We'll
just let them have it. I know his ears are
burning right now. I can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I can't wait to hear from but the vibe, I
mean that tournament is so strongly participated.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I mean we had a Yeah, we sell it out
every year our company, much like you do the the
Cornhole event, which I've I've heard it's a whole nother
stratosphere we've kind of taken this as our our whole
team supports it. All of our We probably had twenty
of the you know, nations leading builders in this market,
you know, participate with teams. We had tons of of subcontractors, vendors,
(22:43):
big engineering companies. It's and it's the cool And now
that while that sounds like an HbA event kind of steroids,
it's not an HB event because nobody's there because they're
spot being sponsoring or you know, it's really just a
bunch of guys getting.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Around and everybody this whole times.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's old times.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's cut, no telling stories, slapping hats.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
It's a good thing. And while golf is you know
I say, it kind of goes up and down. We
have we have a connection that golf course is one
that I was a building. Oh really, I didn't know
that that whole neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I didn't know that connection.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, so every every house she drove by, I probably
put the sewer tap in.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
For really, I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So you're like you wrote it into the covenants. You're like,
we're having this, We're going to be.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
It is on its fourth ownership. You because golf went
through some downtowns. It's got a great ownership group now
and they've dumped a lot of money. Courses a great
you you probably you probably agree, Yeah, no, I think
it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I like considered public.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
It's supposed to have been maybe semi private one day
we'll see, but yeah, that's a great place.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
We'll continue to I didn't know that's that story. That's
really cool. But but the tournament supports boy Scouts, of.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It supports a foundation, my father being a Scout master
for over forty years before he passed over one.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Hundred and eighty eagles. It's a troop in Charlotte, Troop
one eighteen. It's down in Sarvice Road towards Matthews.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yes, Saint Stephen's methods, that's really me and he, you know,
he had this, you know vision of like the boys
aren't going to camp their boys, and because can't afforded
their boys that can't get out in the woods and
go backpack and was because it can't afford backpacks. So
we're going to start up a foundation. It's a Troop
one eighteen foundation, which of course I'm one of the
(24:31):
board members. But Ultimately we raised all the money for
that for the type of funding directed straight to that
does not flow through the National Scouting an organization straight
to that use.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So you fund scholarships for for young men, Yeah, Scouts
to go really Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And the guys that are still running that troop now,
I mean they they they live by that too. I
mean they definitely have an amazing group of boys all
going through the leadership.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Are you building that boy? Scouts?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's even more cool? And you are? I was not. No,
I was going to ask her you eagle?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Did you think I had a choice?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I would have been. I would have loved. I do
love the Scouts and how I've touched it. I've helped
multiple young men get their Eagle, help them do their
Eagle project kind of the business that I'm in, and
then through church as well.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
But I never I never was.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
We didn't have Scouts at my church that I was
involved in, and it just never came across my plate.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Unfortunately, it's very troop centric. The life of Scouting sometimes
lives and dies by the troop. Even my father's troop.
He was from the mountains of North Carolina and it
it cratered before he got his eagle, so he actually
has never never Oh no.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It closed up. But it's small town.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You know, nobody else to step up Scout Master quid
or whatever. But yeah, scouting is definitely you know, I mean,
it's it's an incredible program. It has, you know, obviously
taking a few licks thanks to the lawyers and some
of the things you've probably heard in the news, but
ultimately I think it's I think it's on good sound
footing now and I think putting a lot of that
in a rear view mirror, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh, when we interview young men and they have their
legal scout, it is like the number one gleaning thing
on I got.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I got one working as an intern for me right now.
That came through my dad's streep, which really yeah, he's yeah,
he's loving it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But I mean it's funny.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
It's the one thing I tell the kids that are
like thinking about, well, I'm too busy playing baseball or whatever.
Got a girlfriend, those are two things that will be
getting away. Got a car, gas and gas girlfriend. You're
gonna get out by age sixteen or fifteen as soon
as you can. But I'm also like the first job
interview I had. I think I spent an hour talking
to a guy I never met before because he was
(26:51):
an eagle about something I did in high school. I mean,
I just spent four years at DNC State, didn't even
need that like construction, like summer in turns all this
cool stuff, and it's like we're talking about your eagles.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was like, how cool is that?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That is cool?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I got two things. One, Saint Steve is Methodist. Is
where read and read Harkey went to church if you
remember there on Startis Road, which is wonderful. And then
the second question, I want to ask you about your
the band blue band on your arm. Oh right, I
keep trying to catch what it says. If I can't
get the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I have a I have an awesome nephew that's been
in special needs his whole life. His name's Alex's Little Crisp.
So another part of my heart's right there. And it's
my sister's only child. He has a mitochondrial disease, is nonverbal,
been never been able to walk acrawl, has a breathing
(27:42):
tube and or a a trake feeding tube, and it's
like NonStop care. He's now twenty I got a guess wrong,
she'll get madam's twenty two.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But he has endured all odds that he's lived this long,
mostly because my sister and of course my dad got
to know him pretty good too. So we also for
for him. We started another foundation called the Alex Chris Foundation,
which we used to support him to Oh wow. So
my sister's very involved in his health care, so she
(28:14):
didn't have much time to really do much with that foundation.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
That's something we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's really cool. Oh man, thanks for sharing.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, for my kids, I have three daughters, and I
mean they loved him obviously, like you know, he's their cousin,
only cousin because I only have a sister. But we
we just you know, never you never really knew anything different.
How can you include Alex and everything we were doing?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know? And wow, and that was what you did.
But he's a pretty cool kid.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, God bless you Alex, and God bless your family.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Out man, the compassion talking about those two subjects is
just is impressive.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So where'd you grow where'd you go to high school?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
He's smack, buddy, hold on, we're you grow up? To
that means like you're the second heartening I've ever met.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
You. Where'd you grow.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh? That was the river?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
How about how about how about you? East Mac? Wh
where'd you grow up?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
So let's see, I lived off of Brackenberry all right, Yeah,
so Island Forest Drives not too far there. Yeah, yeah,
lived in Lansdowne area before that. Yeah, I went to
Lansdowne Elementary first ward.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Wow, you had to earn it at first one. I
ain't half stepping on East Mac When I was there.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
East Mac was the biggest high school in the state
and there wasn't a There wasn't a Providence.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Really, Providence opened the year I went to college.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
East Man was the biggest high school in the state
when you were there.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
And it was it was, I mean it was great.
It was a great school, but it pulled from all
the way down Providence Road. I breatham Matthew's good time
because there wasn't a Butler.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Goodness great Cottswald went to East Mac back then too,
or that.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think, Yeah, is that where Scarlett's owned. No, So
get Cotswold to where where we live is. Really it's
closer to East Mac. But it's only Myers Park. Yeah
park then, yeah, I mean it is is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Honestly, don't know how. I'm sure East is doing Okay,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Keep up, keep up with a couple of alumni from there.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, David Bear went there for oral c fos East May. Yeah,
East Mack.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's good. Well for you.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hang out at the lake Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's where I hung out on the river. I was
there last night. So about for a while. Smelling smell
He was talked about this earlier, smelling before you came in.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Uh, cats fish, gasoline, catfish, catfish smell good. So uh well, well, Brian,
I'm gonna put you on the spot. It's been so awesome.
We talk about this being speed dating on steroids. You
learn so much and it's so intimate. Uh, what's one
principle that you live by and how you run pace development,
(31:13):
how you how you raise your three girls?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Doing others? The golden rule?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Amen, you've listened to the show, Come on now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Every show with that. That's right? Really yeah, yeah, it's
like question, Well, we like each other.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
We have.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
At the East. I went to Harding and you and
the State Carolina. So, uh, that's all right, It is
all right.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, now we uh, I mean I think in my team,
my team, we do breathe a lot in our culture
about just you know, giving back. Yep, we give back
to our organizations I talked about, talked about individually our
team members have their own things they do, and ultimately
us as a company, we we just build a playground
on it Thompson's Alexander Children's Home down on Wow. Yeah,
(32:03):
thermal off there sounds. I mean, I don't think we
ever say no to anything that involves that kind of
charitable commitment. And it's nice to see it kind of
translating through the team. I mean, I'm not the one
coming in and saying we got to do this, like
I hear about it sometimes like oh, we're already doing this.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I was like, oh, really, that's so cool. Yeah, I
didn't even think of it, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But so that's the kind of culture for sure, the
industry commitment, not being just being a leader in the industry,
trying to tell all of my guys that make sure
that you know, we show up, we show up strong,
which we give our we have our clients as always first.
That's hard to sometimes do sometimes we do our best
(32:45):
yea and uh, but really it's as a company. We
you're sitting around a room with somebody for forty plus
fifty sixty hours a week hover long.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You're going to be there. You better like who you're
with anybody.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Enjoy what you're doing, like coming in the every day
and high fiving and sometimes crying.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Amen, I agree. Enjoy the people you work with. This
is your family. Yeah, I mean it really is. Uh.
And we think of our employees each's family and their
family and uh. We're very similar in how how we
want to be industry leaders just to just to pay
it forward and uh and and frightnize with with our
(33:27):
our rivals and our partners in the industry.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So uh but man, that's awesome. Thank you for being here, Brian.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Great Uh Pace Development, Brian Pace. Listen, go do the
Golden rule today. Treat others the way you want to
be treated, and smile. Carry a smile on that face
because you don't know who it will affect. Thank you
for listening to At Home with Ruby
Welcome to at Home with Roby. This is Patrick mccaac
from Roby Commercial and Services along with Trent Hayston from
the Roby Family of Companies. We are your hosts. Trent,
we are driving on this podcast platform. I think we're
getting a little more comfortable. Kelvin. I think we're like
halfway to getting him to liking us.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I liked you guys from day one. I don't know
if that's about That's what I thought, That's how I felt.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
But I think sometimes I'm overly aggressive on my self thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I just see if you were paying attention back there, dude.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
No, it's all good always. I'm locked in, dude.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm telling you got some slick ear. We call these.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Headphones all the headphones, Dope, those are cool.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Let's have like some chrome inside.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, that's bringing in He's he's bringing in the fodder today.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Trying to accessorize. Man all I got.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Man, My good buddy, Josh Brent, I've been on the
show before, gave me a nice pair. We went on
a fishing trip about three four weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not these.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Patrick gave me a nice pair of cost of sunglasses.
I said, Man, I forgot to bring my sunglasses and
he's so cool. We're about to go out on the
boat and he pulls out three brand new pair, three
different colors, and he's like, hey, take a take a pick.
You can have them. I'm like, what, I'm in the game.
So for the last month I've been worried about scratching them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Hold on, you still have them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I still have them.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
But the other day, on the way back from the beach,
they fell out of my lap. I was holding them
in my hand, put him in my lap. I was
driving and they fell down and my wife's riding shotgun
and I say, can you pick my glasses up? And
I about said, please make sure you don't scratch them,
and they got it like a little I mean it
is like a quarter of an inch scratch, but it's
right in the middle of the left lends and two hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And fifty dollars is just sitting the same.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, Well, I think I've hit on you for
the hit this on this show before. But you don't
want to be reincarnate it into your phone or a
pair of your sunglasses.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, here's my phone.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Is it looking good?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Said?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Looking pretty good? Pretty good?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
My phone case been opening some Corona bottles lately it's
a little gnarly on the corner.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Better in your phone base than your teeth. I will
say that's probably a much better use of it.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I've never opened a bottle of anything with my teeth.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You'd never seen somebody to do that before.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
My teeth are weak.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I've seen people do it. My teeth don't need
I want to go away. I mean, geez, I'm trying
to protect my teeth.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey, let me ask you a question. Let me ask
you a question. Have you ever been into a cyber
truck before?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I have not? You have not?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
So Josh Norris Green Brothers, I'm gonna call nout. He's
been on the show we went to. Uh he does.
He is part of Sonic Culture in Cottswall two. So
we been did that Saturday and we come out. That's
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're doing this on a regular basis now.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, I've probably done it four times where you go
into like this, it's like one hundred and fifty six
degree song and then you go in like a forty
eight degree water to do it back. Supposed to be
really healthy.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Why you look so good these days?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I don't know that he is looking good, isn't he
twenty four seven?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Didn't miss troll, didn't miss the beat, So we'll give
him some sign of culture. It's pretty cool. So we
come walking out and he's he walks over to a
cyber truck, like what do you What do you doing?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Man?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
He's like, oh, this is my brother's you ever been
in one of these? Like no, Like do you want to?
He's like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
This.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Damn thing's absolutely haul ass. I hate to cuss, but
it is. He goes you ready, I'm like, we're ready
for what?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I mean?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
It was pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
We went picked up scarling, got a couple of smoothies,
and then came back to the house.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
But you're really embracing the hipster lifestyle. I felt pretty hip.
It's pretty cool man. I have mean, I had my
my sunglasses all we were chilling. I mean about six
years ago, seven years ago, when Tesla, the Tesla car
first came out. I was with Rich Ballot. He had
a Tesla. I mean, this is like year one. Yeah
(04:00):
I could see that and he's like I didn't. I'm like, Okay,
I get in it, and I feel like I'm on
the moon. The moon roof and the big screen and
all that. Now you have big screens in a lot
of vehicles, but you didn't have it then. And then
he said, all right, you're ready, and we were going
about seventy in about three seconds, and my back was
kind of hurting, like I have sunburn.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I hadn't slept you yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah, we're recording two shows today, so I still have sunburn,
the same sunburn I had on the last show. Do
you have any aloe?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Patrick?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I don't carry that typically with me at all times,
but I'm sure someone around here probably hook it up.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So we'll give an update.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think we were in the mid one thousand sharp
teeth this time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I was gonna bring my little baggy.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
On one trip.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, well last year this trip we had six thousand.
We found okay, I think we put in more hours
and it was it was better. I don't know why
we did a whole show if you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Haven't ever heard it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Tatum, my daughter's who hunts with me, came on it
and we talked about the virtues of shark tooth hunting.
But I got to do some of that that that
is how I got sunburned. But we found about fifteen
hundred sharks teeth this time.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So incredible. Does does Riddick bow Byram get out there
in shark tooth with you?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, he did not look for teeth with me this
year at all.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay, last year he generally the by Rooms bow Byrons
the show they go to the beach with our family.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But no he did not. Generally he gives me one
morning he'll go help with me.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And because because where I like my mom's house where
we go with Surfside Beach, which is right below South Myrtle,
So a good place to look is the heart of
Myrtle Beach. So where I go at like five thirty
six in the morning is the main pier. I mean
z Row Avenue, first avenue of Myrtle Beach. At six
(06:04):
o'clock in the morning, you get half the people that
are there's a bunch of people out there, but half
the people that are there still out there from the
night before and just listening to these folks as wow,
and then you know you get people coming out and
by nine or ten, I mean the beach is full
of sunbathers and partygoers.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
It is really a fun time.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
So how many people are out there do you think
that are there from the night before. If you get
twenty thirty hundreds.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
In the tens, let's call it ten to one hundred,
depending on the night. I mean, you know, Monday Tuesday
morning is not just less Saturday morning Saturday morning, and
when you're at the beach, you know, you don't really
think of day's too much unless you get up in
the morning, got do some work. You don't do that
on Saturdays as much as you do on Wednesdays. But
(06:57):
I'm looking at our guest today because I know East
feels that and you feel that.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So yeah, but uh, it's fun.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I appreciate Myrtle Beach and the Carolina Country Music Fest
was down there while we were there. It was down
there this past weekend.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We did not go. I have been.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I went when Eric Church was there. Uh so you
had all those folks in town as well, So well cool.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You looked at our guests, mentioned our guest. He up
our guest.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, Brian pace Pace Development.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We were telling old stories before we got on the
air over his three generations in Charlotte. Uh more generations,
but his business, I think is three generations old. We'll
talk about that and and old properties and old doings.
So it's gonna be fun. And Brian and I have
(07:51):
known each other for a long time. He single handily
made the phone call to recruit me before I really
knew him for the Homebookers Associate board back in I
think it was nine. I'm pretty pretty sure that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So you remember those calls. Ron Weatherley got me for anary.
I'll never forget. I was like, oh, do I say,
what do I do?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well? Yes, I was in.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I was on serving on the County's Building Development Commission
board at the time, and uh I stepped out. We
had played phone tag. I remember stepping out of one
of our board meetings and they were talking about how
bad it was. I was like, Andrew Roby at the time,
Custom Residential was trailing a little bit. We didn't feel
(08:36):
the effects of eight to oh.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Nine as early.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I walked out and he said, hey, to be on
the Homebowners Association board.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I was like, Okay, here we go. So anyway that was.
That was a long time ago, but a wonderful memory. Brian.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I can't wait to have you on. We'll be back
here listening to at Home with Ruby.
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and Services along with Trend Hasten from the Roby Family
of companies. We are your hosts.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Hey, hey, and we got Brian Pace sitting beside us
in the room. Look at the camera, Brian, Hey, Hey.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's Brian Pace, first time in the studio.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Pace Pace, Pace Pace. That's how they'd say it, like
it something, make you sound feel special.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But if Kelvin has done his job and recorded all
the fodder before and between segments, I think we get
We don't, we can stop.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It actually was pretty good radio. That was That's exactly
what we Brian was all nervous coming in here and
I'm not sure what to say. Brought a note brood contract.
It's funny you say that we signing.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's funny you say that because I actually have been
recording everything in between.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But by accident.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You have that so excellent leverage. That's a hot make
for real Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I don't know where the now. You got a
new three ring. They have a new notepath. That's good. Yeah,
that's for you.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, my daughter she didn't need one for college.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I'm supposed to write I love you, Brian.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
We're both supposed to write something.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We'll sign it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, we're supposed to do that. I don't know why
we didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Falling down.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
We're a little transition period here.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
So the way we originally met as people talking other
than knowing of each other, uh, is you recruited me
to be on the homeowners Association board we I think
it was eight I think yeah, and uh, and it.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Was a great year in the industry.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It was talking to them.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
It was the worst, uh, the worst time ever in
my generation of life.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
In business, the beginning of the crash.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so you were talking about Homebowner's Association used to
do this thing, and I think they did it all
over the country home rama and it'd have a really
high end development developer neighborhood and eight or ten houses
would be showcase, really nice luxurious houses. And you said,
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y'all had a home rama in the Palisades in eight
three days after Wells Fargo.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't know if they actually bought.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
They beat them in the head and took them.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
The government beat him in the head.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It came in a back with a baseball bat.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah. It was not good.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And and I was so proud of Wacovia in my
whole life. I think my Wells Fargo checking statement says
remembers since seventy eight. I was born in seventy eight. Wow,
And that was because of Wakovia. So that was not good.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I think their stock with what something.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh man, it was awful. It was. It was bad.
And you said you had ten three ish million dollar houses.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
There were in that neighborhood. They had ten on display.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Unfortunately, Brian, do you remember if they if they did
end up ultimately selling at that time, or did they
sit as inventory. I mean, there's so much inventory to
set during that period.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It was a dark time for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
I think those builders in particular are probably not in
business anymore, which is really the saddest part of the recession.
It took you know, career builders, career developers, you know,
completely out of the market when you know the.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Banks came calling and notes came good people life became
very challenging.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, I mean it you were just time.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Family businesses were crushed.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
You were holding the bag when the music stopped. I mean,
it really wasn't like anybody being malicious or bad people
or anything along those lines.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Very few emerged after, or if they emerged, they looked
totally different.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, we were in the we're in the custom
high end residential business. Uh.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's really was our one trick pony going into
that recession, third generation family business. I would not sleep
and get in the bathtub and moan and groan and pray.
At three and four in the morning. My wife would
wake up and say, are you gonna be okay? And
I was like, I don't think, I am, I don't
I think. I think fifty eight years is going down.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
It's exactly why none of my daughters will even entertain
the idea of coming into construction business with.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Her day really because they saw, they saw that.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They lived through that. Me coming home in the evenings,
I don't know, baby, We're gonn figure it out.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
We were gonna figure it out, but it was far off.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And I did everything from mowing grass to doing whatever
it took to keep our neighborhoods alive and for a.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Period of time that was not much light at the
end of the horizon. Uh, it was dark. So h wow,
we have that in common as well. Thank you for
recruiting me today, HbA.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I will say my the HbA Europe, so I served
in eight and Charlotte as a president.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
So I think it might have been right after me.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
I think I was the recruiter to talk another sucker
into it, and you were the sucker. There were a
couple of others Alan Banks, Yeah, a couple of other
good guys Buddy's mine and y'all did have to make
some really hard decisions, Danny Kelly, really tough decisions. Had
to change how HbA operated Homama story we just went through.
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It's not how they operate anymore. They have amazing sponsorships
to do a lot more things, but they still there's
still core values that that networking guys that are in
small businesses that are a lot stronger together than apart
and fighting their battles by amen. And so what the
HbA taught me and you know, you just got to
give back to that industry that's feeding you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Amen.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
And I know you thought that or you want to join.
And while you're laughing about the time I suckered you
into it, it's like I still stay active in it.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'm not on the board or doing.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I was about to say, I'll I mean, I don't
go to a ton of HB events, but I feel
like everyone I go to you're there. I see it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
I mean, it's funny. I used to be the youngest
guy in the room and now I'm not. I don't
understand it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It's like it happens overnight. I feel the same way.
I mean, we were really involved in Neary also and
where the young bucks. Now you go there and it's like, dang,
whatill happened?
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And I've taken it kind of to the Raleigh level
because Raleigh does have n C HbA, and they have
so much influence with our legislature of things that are
going on that affect our bottom line and our businesses
and can affect housing affordability, which is really their number
one core protection. The only ones out there fighting for
houses affordability, and nobody listens to us because we're a
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bunch of builders that they just think we're out to
make money.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
And that's right.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's it. But anyway, so but you you stayed involved.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah yeah, And Dave MacGuire's coo, yep. We so we
believe in that. We believe in giving back and being
a leader in our industry. And it's funny the names
you said. I mean, Danny Kelly. I mean truly me
and him are like brothers. I mean you don't see
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him for a year or two. When you see him,
you hug and you're like, let's go to the pub
and hang out and talk about all times.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So that's two n C State guys.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You actually have to like you guys associate well with
You would fit you would fit in all over and
I would. And then uh so I could tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Morgan Smith too before we forget, is also on the
board HbA, which is supportive.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We have a guy Charlie Fondell on the board, okay, cool, Charlie's.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
One of our one of the point.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
And Alan Banks uh I think he was president, uh
maybe right before.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Me Evans cock Hill and and I haven't talked to him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He called me up six months ago and we chewed
the cut for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like we had a board meeting in an hour.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
He's a good he's a good guy.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Alan Banks, guy named Gary Emblers of Nibble Homes. Yeah,
he was real active up in Cabars County and the
three of us we went up to Raleigh together and
were real active. And it was the first time there
are a lot of guys from Charlotte and raleighcause they
don't listen to us in Raleig because we're Charlotte. Yeah,
they don't give us that time of day. And it
was kind of nice. They called it. They called us
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the Charlotte Mafia. At the NCAA, everything that came through
that had anything to strugg we made sure went hop
top of the agenda.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's some respect there.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
It was fun.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And that was like in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
so after the Great Recession had chilled out down here.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The therapy for me was that thing, that recession we're
talking about. It was it was happening across the state
and if you just stayed in your bubble in Charlotte,
you felt like the whole world was collapsing. It was
it was interesting to be able to get out and
see how how different markets were being affected and how
for sure, we had some great metrics here that probably better.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Than other places.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
But to me, I always called those years and when
I was volunteer in HbA, it was more therapy than
me than it was that I could do for them.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
That's right. So we look at it the same way.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
So so tell us about your your business and growing
up and how you grew up and grew.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Up in the business and give us that State wolf back.
All right, tar Hill you do this thing? Is that?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I don't know, don't.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Know what is the tar Hill thing? It's like, what
is that thing? Now?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We don't do anything. It's like that the ram. That's
the tar Hill hand yester number one. If you're looking,
I have a tar Hill hand Jester, I won't put
it in. It's a different number one number. Was that
number one?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
You're number one?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Number eleven like forty one. We're all out of the
a SEC or the n C Double A baseball tournament
with we can.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
All lost this weekend.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
State lost last weekend, and quite frankly, baseball it's about
the only thing that's really authentic anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So it's fun to watch. State has effectively bought our
way into basketball.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Team this year, next year, which we did nothing this
year and last year we're in the final four.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Sounds like that un C football team done it. Yeah,
I'm a Clemson guy, full disclosure. So we can hearry
o the redneck of the of the.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
A C C. We have tar Hill Bill tar Bill.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
How long this gonna last?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Wonder?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
We will kind of like Musk and Trump. I don't know,
We'll see see how it unfolds. It's like soap opera here.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The Buccaneers might be looking for a coach, but that's
another topic for another day. You were gonna tell us
how you grew up.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
So yeah, well second really second second generation Pete our
company Pace Development. I started actually in a company up
in the DC syntax you probably heard that name out
of college, out of n C State and bounced around
with them. Fortunately found a wife that moved to shan
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before me and I chased her here and uh Dad
and I hooked up at that time and kind of
became the development company that we are today as well.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
As contracting construction and everything else. So yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
What year was that ninety four?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
So you you partnered with your father.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
And multiple different things for sure, that is cool.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yeah, but he uh, he had us.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
He had a he's a he's a Carolina grad CPA degree.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
He is smart, so very smart.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You said that without a beat, and I like it.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I uh and I had the engineering degree from State
and together somehow we made uh.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
We made mayonnaise, I guess.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But yeah, I have heard that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
But he uh but yeah, no, long, long, long story short.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
We wound, you know, kind of grew the team became,
you know, we had to be a little bit more
diverse with that recession. We talked about we used to
build just neighborhoods, and we started building houses and anything
that went in the neighborhood and outside of a neighborhood.
And we do it for ourselves and others. So we're
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kind of a construction manager for a lot of different
companies too. And we really have made our made our
way to kind of a place that we have enough
diverse business that you know, we're not not one one
side of the businesses feeding us.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
And you learned that because of that recession. We had
conversation about.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
But he passed uh eight eight years ago January, so
God bless you. So that's the that was the end
of that ride, unfortunately, but not the influence. And for
sure he he's in my thoughts every day every day
I walk into headquarters, and our company I think lives
that pretty well too. We have a lot of charity
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events and things were involved in the Yeah, he's he's
his memory is never gonna be forgotten.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
So well, well, was he real active in the Boy
Scouts of America?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He was?
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Because I play in the in your golf tournament last
couple of years, and I don't know how you slay
just terrible.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
I played bad. You were with you were, you were
with stuff, But I know how you turned in. You
didn't turn much of a score.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, I was with stuff. Cut.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Let's just take the next four minutes and just drill
on scuff cut. Just with three or four minute We'll
just let them have it. I know his ears are
burning right now. I can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I can't wait to hear from but the vibe, I
mean that tournament is so strongly participated.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
I mean we had a Yeah, we sell it out
every year our company, much like you do the the
Cornhole event, which I've I've heard it's a whole nother
stratosphere we've kind of taken this as our our whole
team supports it. All of our We probably had twenty
of the you know, nations leading builders in this market,
you know, participate with teams. We had tons of of subcontractors, vendors,
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big engineering companies. It's and it's the cool And now
that while that sounds like an HbA event kind of steroids,
it's not an HB event because nobody's there because they're
spot being sponsoring or you know, it's really just a
bunch of guys getting.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Around and everybody this whole times.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's old times.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's cut, no telling stories, slapping hats.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
It's a good thing. And while golf is you know
I say, it kind of goes up and down. We
have we have a connection that golf course is one
that I was a building. Oh really, I didn't know
that that whole neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I didn't know that connection.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, so every every house she drove by, I probably
put the sewer tap in.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
For really, I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
So you're like you wrote it into the covenants. You're like,
we're having this, We're going to be.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
It is on its fourth ownership. You because golf went
through some downtowns. It's got a great ownership group now
and they've dumped a lot of money. Courses a great
you you probably you probably agree, Yeah, no, I think
it's great.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I like considered public.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
It's supposed to have been maybe semi private one day
we'll see, but yeah, that's a great place.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
We'll continue to I didn't know that's that story. That's
really cool. But but the tournament supports boy Scouts, of.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
It supports a foundation, my father being a Scout master
for over forty years before he passed over one.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Hundred and eighty eagles. It's a troop in Charlotte, Troop
one eighteen. It's down in Sarvice Road towards Matthews.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yes, Saint Stephen's methods, that's really me and he, you know,
he had this, you know vision of like the boys
aren't going to camp their boys, and because can't afforded
their boys that can't get out in the woods and
go backpack and was because it can't afford backpacks. So
we're going to start up a foundation. It's a Troop
one eighteen foundation, which of course I'm one of the
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board members. But Ultimately we raised all the money for
that for the type of funding directed straight to that
does not flow through the National Scouting an organization straight
to that use.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
So you fund scholarships for for young men, Yeah, Scouts
to go really Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
And the guys that are still running that troop now,
I mean they they they live by that too. I
mean they definitely have an amazing group of boys all
going through the leadership.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Are you building that boy? Scouts?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's even more cool? And you are? I was not. No,
I was going to ask her you eagle?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Did you think I had a choice?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I would have been. I would have loved. I do
love the Scouts and how I've touched it. I've helped
multiple young men get their Eagle, help them do their
Eagle project kind of the business that I'm in, and
then through church as well.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
But I never I never was.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
We didn't have Scouts at my church that I was
involved in, and it just never came across my plate.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Unfortunately, it's very troop centric. The life of Scouting sometimes
lives and dies by the troop. Even my father's troop.
He was from the mountains of North Carolina and it
it cratered before he got his eagle, so he actually
has never never Oh no.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
It closed up. But it's small town.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
You know, nobody else to step up Scout Master quid
or whatever. But yeah, scouting is definitely you know, I mean,
it's it's an incredible program. It has, you know, obviously
taking a few licks thanks to the lawyers and some
of the things you've probably heard in the news, but
ultimately I think it's I think it's on good sound
footing now and I think putting a lot of that
in a rear view mirror, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh, when we interview young men and they have their
legal scout, it is like the number one gleaning thing
on I got.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
I got one working as an intern for me right now.
That came through my dad's streep, which really yeah, he's yeah,
he's loving it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
But I mean it's funny.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
It's the one thing I tell the kids that are
like thinking about, well, I'm too busy playing baseball or whatever.
Got a girlfriend, those are two things that will be
getting away. Got a car, gas and gas girlfriend. You're
gonna get out by age sixteen or fifteen as soon
as you can. But I'm also like the first job
interview I had. I think I spent an hour talking
to a guy I never met before because he was
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an eagle about something I did in high school. I mean,
I just spent four years at DNC State, didn't even
need that like construction, like summer in turns all this
cool stuff, and it's like we're talking about your eagles.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
I was like, how cool is that?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That is cool?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I got two things. One, Saint Steve is Methodist. Is
where read and read Harkey went to church if you
remember there on Startis Road, which is wonderful. And then
the second question, I want to ask you about your
the band blue band on your arm. Oh right, I
keep trying to catch what it says. If I can't
get the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I have a I have an awesome nephew that's been
in special needs his whole life. His name's Alex's Little Crisp.
So another part of my heart's right there. And it's
my sister's only child. He has a mitochondrial disease, is nonverbal,
been never been able to walk acrawl, has a breathing
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tube and or a a trake feeding tube, and it's
like NonStop care. He's now twenty I got a guess wrong,
she'll get madam's twenty two.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But he has endured all odds that he's lived this long,
mostly because my sister and of course my dad got
to know him pretty good too. So we also for
for him. We started another foundation called the Alex Chris Foundation,
which we used to support him to Oh wow. So
my sister's very involved in his health care, so she
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didn't have much time to really do much with that foundation.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
That's something we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's really cool. Oh man, thanks for sharing.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, for my kids, I have three daughters, and I
mean they loved him obviously, like you know, he's their cousin,
only cousin because I only have a sister. But we
we just you know, never you never really knew anything different.
How can you include Alex and everything we were doing?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You know? And wow, and that was what you did.
But he's a pretty cool kid.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Well, God bless you Alex, and God bless your family.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Out man, the compassion talking about those two subjects is
just is impressive.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So where'd you grow where'd you go to high school?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
He's smack, buddy, hold on, we're you grow up? To
that means like you're the second heartening I've ever met.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
You. Where'd you grow.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh? That was the river?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
How about how about how about you? East Mac? Wh
where'd you grow up?
Speaker 5 (29:14):
So let's see, I lived off of Brackenberry all right, Yeah,
so Island Forest Drives not too far there. Yeah, yeah,
lived in Lansdowne area before that. Yeah, I went to
Lansdowne Elementary first ward.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Wow, you had to earn it at first one. I
ain't half stepping on East Mac When I was there.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
East Mac was the biggest high school in the state
and there wasn't a There wasn't a Providence.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Really, Providence opened the year I went to college.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
East Man was the biggest high school in the state
when you were there.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
And it was it was, I mean it was great.
It was a great school, but it pulled from all
the way down Providence Road. I breatham Matthew's good time
because there wasn't a Butler.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Goodness great Cottswald went to East Mac back then too,
or that.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think, Yeah, is that where Scarlett's owned. No, So
get Cotswold to where where we live is. Really it's
closer to East Mac. But it's only Myers Park. Yeah
park then, yeah, I mean it is is what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Honestly, don't know how. I'm sure East is doing Okay,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Keep up, keep up with a couple of alumni from there.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, David Bear went there for oral c fos East May. Yeah,
East Mack.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That's good. Well for you.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Hang out at the lake Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's where I hung out on the river. I was
there last night. So about for a while. Smelling smell
He was talked about this earlier, smelling before you came in.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Uh, cats fish, gasoline, catfish, catfish smell good. So uh well, well, Brian,
I'm gonna put you on the spot. It's been so awesome.
We talk about this being speed dating on steroids. You
learn so much and it's so intimate. Uh, what's one
principle that you live by and how you run pace development,
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how you how you raise your three girls?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Doing others? The golden rule?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Amen, you've listened to the show, Come on now.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Every show with that. That's right? Really yeah, yeah, it's
like question, Well, we like each other.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
We have.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
At the East. I went to Harding and you and
the State Carolina. So, uh, that's all right, It is
all right.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yeah, now we uh, I mean I think in my team,
my team, we do breathe a lot in our culture
about just you know, giving back. Yep, we give back
to our organizations I talked about, talked about individually our
team members have their own things they do, and ultimately
us as a company, we we just build a playground
on it Thompson's Alexander Children's Home down on Wow. Yeah,
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thermal off there sounds. I mean, I don't think we
ever say no to anything that involves that kind of
charitable commitment. And it's nice to see it kind of
translating through the team. I mean, I'm not the one
coming in and saying we got to do this, like
I hear about it sometimes like oh, we're already doing this.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I was like, oh, really, that's so cool. Yeah, I
didn't even think of it, you know.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
But so that's the kind of culture for sure, the
industry commitment, not being just being a leader in the industry,
trying to tell all of my guys that make sure
that you know, we show up, we show up strong,
which we give our we have our clients as always first.
That's hard to sometimes do sometimes we do our best
(32:45):
yea and uh, but really it's as a company. We
you're sitting around a room with somebody for forty plus
fifty sixty hours a week hover long.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You're going to be there. You better like who you're
with anybody.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Enjoy what you're doing, like coming in the every day
and high fiving and sometimes crying.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Amen, I agree. Enjoy the people you work with. This
is your family. Yeah, I mean it really is. Uh.
And we think of our employees each's family and their
family and uh. We're very similar in how how we
want to be industry leaders just to just to pay
it forward and uh and and frightnize with with our
(33:27):
our rivals and our partners in the industry.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
So uh but man, that's awesome. Thank you for being here, Brian.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Great Uh Pace Development, Brian Pace. Listen, go do the
Golden rule today. Treat others the way you want to
be treated, and smile. Carry a smile on that face
because you don't know who it will affect. Thank you
for listening to At Home with Ruby
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