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October 21, 2025 37 mins

Robert Wagnon, founder of Republic State Mortgage, joins Hazem and Mack to share how his journey started with a need for money and evolved through mentorship and strong community connections. By focusing on long-term relationships instead of quick transactions, Robert built a billion-dollar company rooted in expertise, problem-solving, and integrity. His story shows that truly caring about others’ success leads to lasting impact and a legacy of trust.

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Key Takeaways

1. Success in entrepreneurship and banking isn’t just about transactions or products—it’s fundamentally about building genuine, trusting relationships. Robert Wagnon emphasizes how his connections with mentors and community bankers were pivotal for his business growth, guiding him far beyond just financial transactions. Long-term, trust-based relationships create opportunities and help solve problems more effectively than a focus on short-term gains.

2. Unlike large, impersonal financial institutions, community banks and smaller mortgage companies thrive by listening, understanding individual client needs, and being flexible. They discuss how this personalized approach enables them to “make the box around the client,” rather than forcing clients to fit into rigid requirements, thus providing competitive advantages and lasting loyalty.

3. Scaling a culture rooted in clear, codified values is essential for sustainable growth. Robert shares that Republic State Mortgage succeeded by defining and truly living its eight core values, hiring and firing based on them, and ensuring they weren’t just “words on the wall.” This clarity in purpose and values fosters unity, guides decisions, and attracts like-minded talent.

4. Experience and mentorship are invaluable, especially for new entrepreneurs. Robert’s career trajectory was shaped by mentors who listened, provided wisdom, and made essential connections. This highlights the importance of seeking out and learning from those who have navigated similar challenges, as well as giving back by mentoring others.

5. Leaders must adapt as the business landscape changes, make decisions aligned with both prudence and culture, and have the wisdom to say no when necessary. Robert points out that the kindest credit decision is a timely, honest one—delaying or equivocating causes harm. Furthermore, he illustrates that organizational growth sometimes requires tough choices, such as letting go of high performers who don’t align with company values, and knowing when the industry environment calls for a fundamental business shift.

Timestamped Overview

00:00 "Mentorship Beyond Banking"

04:16 "Jim's Guidance and Connections"

08:25 "Mortgage Business: People and Stories"

09:49 "Referrals Drive Business Success"

13:24 "Building a Community of Trust"

16:38 "Loan Approval: Weighing the Risks"

20:23 "Expertise Over Cost Priority"

24:27 "Roy Spence on Purpose Institute"

27:16 "Values-Driven Hiring Approach"

30:30 Business Success Through Collaboration

33:32 "Offer, Challenges, and Constraints"

36:30 "Choose the Right Banker"

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