Tonight, on Beyond the Bricks with Jake Query and Mike Thomsen, they recap how the 2025 Indy 500 went, and talk about the passing of Mike’s mother and Indy 500 photographer, Ron McQueeney.
In the second half of the show, Jake talks to Mike about his overseas trip to the United Kingdom to see Oasis live in concert.
Then to wrap up another edition of the show, they talk about The Beatles relationship with Indiana, the Indianapolis 500, and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
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Speaker 6 (00:43):
Here it is another installment of Beyond the Bricks and
what does that mean? It means it is a race
week at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Good evening to you.
It is our pleasure once again to join you to
talk about the storylines, the personalities, the teams that and
all of the events that have taken place historically at
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the world's most famous racetrack at sixteenth in Georgetown. The
Indianapolis Motor Speedway and Mike Thompson is for those of
you who are new to the program. A historian from
an audio standpoint, from a variety of standpoints, but certainly
in terms of the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
as told through an audio variation. Mike has a library
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that is like, as a matter of fact, he lives
in the state of Ohio and for years, when you
see those videos or pictures on Facebook of Lebron James
old house outside of Cleveland, that he's trying to sell,
that's like one hundred and thirty thousand square feet, that
actually is Mike's audio library is what that is. And Mike,
it is always fun once again to resume and talk
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about a place that is so special to both of us.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Man, my house gets bigger every time we do this show.
They're not paying me that much, buddy, but yeah, it's
always fun to do it, and I I really appreciate
the opportunity and we get so many people who come
up to us and say so many nice things.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And people came up in May and I actually had
a couple of people.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
It was kind of strange because a couple of people
at the Memorybila show and May were like, I want
to get a picture with you because you're on Beyond
the Bricks, and that was the first time that's ever happened,
and it was just it was just kind of fun,
you know. So you know, I, you know, I don't
think of myself in any kind of celebrity status from
doing the show, but it's just fun that people love
the show so much, and I know you have people
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call in and talk to you about doing the show
and how much you know they enjoy listening to you, Jake.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
So it's a lot of fun for us, and a
lot of those folks I realize are listening not in
our original airing on one O seven five the Fan
in Indianapolis or ninety three WIBC, depending on what the
schedule lays out, but oftentimes in podcast form after the
fact that throughout the course of the year. So if
you are one of those, it is appreciated as well. Mike,
let's begin by talking about the last time that we
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were together and doing a show. Of course, this is
the week that the NASCAR Series comes to the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway. There is a history there. We'll cross into
some of that over the course of the week, but
also the Indianapolis five hundred taking place in May, I
thought personally, and you look back and it's funny because
it was just two months ago, but you know, in
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some aspects it feels like a long time ago because
there have been so many races and things that have
happened since then that we'll get into. But when you
look back at the twenty twenty five Indianapolis five hundred
bio race, it is one of those to me that
I think years from now, and I remember saying after
the fact, this is one of those races where years
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from now, and I was saying this right, you know,
after the race ended, we will remember perhaps Scott McLaughlin's
spinning before the race began and knocking himself out of
the race, and we will remember a rain delay to
start the race at Alex winning the race, and there
was not a lot memorable that took place in the
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in between. And that's not a knock on the race
or the drivers of the speedway, but there are certain
years where it just comes down to it where the
race just feels like there wasn't a whole lot of
happening within it. That's not to say there wasn't, but
I really thought, Mike, and I've said this before. The
Indianapolis Motor Speedway is a very weather dependent facility, and
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for those that have never been there, what I mean
by that is, I've always said, when it's a clear
day or a sunny day, there's no more glorious place
on earth to be, and when it's a rainy day
and a weighted out day, there is no more frustrating,
depressing place on earth to be, because you want so
badly to see your memories and have everything be perfect
the way it's been in the past. This year's race
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had kind of a little bit of both, but the
fact that they had to basically go through all of
the pre race then not a pour down rain, but
enough just drizzle, I call it frust raining. There was
just enough to interrupt things and you kind of had
to hurt you up and wait, and I just thought
Mike had kind of set a tone.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
For the day. Oh, I agree, I mean it was.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
It's so frustrating to be at the speedway when it's
raining or just like you said, enough rain to cause
a delay or difficulties, and it's just such a frustrating.
There's so many days I've been out there where it's
just like almost like a mist and it's just enough
to lose the track enough to cause problems, and it did.
It was a kind of a disjointed The whole month
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of May was disjointed for me in general, and it
just felt a little bit disjointed. And I look back
at one thing that I don't think got enough discussion
in May, which was you have to feel for Ryan
hunter Ray and those guys, because I think Ryan hunter
Ray had that race one if he doesn't run out
of fuel. I just have this gut feeling that Ryan
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hunter Ray wins that race and it's just one of
those things that got away for that drying Ryanbold team,
And what a story that would have been for hunter
Ray to win his second race and for Drying Ryan Bold,
a little team that could could have, you know, knocked
off the big teams. And I just I think they
have to be really lamenting the fact that they they
kind of let one get away, in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And the same thing that happened to Ryan hunter Ray
happened to Joseph Neugarten. And by that I mean, and
I don't know. I'm not an engineer, Mike, but it's
my understanding. And hunter rais case for example, when he
ran out of fuel, he ran low. They had enough
fuel to get him back into Pitt Road. But once
the fuel gets so gets to a certain point of
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being low, then it's a problem of getting it to
be to go into the fuel line. And that's what
happened to Hunter Ray. I think the same thing happened
to Joseph Newgarden in terms of that fuel line went bad.
I agree with you that Hunter Ray, and credit to
Dryan Rainbold, they did a fabulous job with Hunter Ray
and Jack Harvey both of taking advantage of you know,
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caution flags that came out to go off sequence and
then put themselves in Hunter raise case, back into the
lead sequence of the point where where he was not
necessarily off sequence. He put himself in position where he
was running upfront and was in position to your point,
and I agree that I thought it looked like it
was going to go his way. New Garden as well,
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considering he had to start shotgun on the field. He
absolutely worked his way through the field where he was
then there within at one point the top five, certainly
in the top ten when his day came to an end,
and I really felt like he's another one that things
were going his way and starting to set up nicely
for him. None of this is to take anything away
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from Alex Polo, who ended up obviously winning the race
and has been historically on a run here to start
the twenty twenty five entt IndyCar season. But the one
thing to me that I look at with Polo, and
I give him credit for this mike but did not
make for great racing for the fans. But Polo was
savvy enough to figure out and to know and understand,
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and I think Marcus Erickson knew this as well. Once
Polo got in front of Ericson, he did realized that
when he had in front of him the tandem of
Louis Foster and Deviln di Francesco, it was in Polo's
best interest to just tuck behind them because of the
weight of the cars with the hybrid now makes it
where if you are three or four in line, it's
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very difficult to step out and make a pass because
of the air and the way it works. So Polo
knew for that last dozen laps or so, hey, I'll
just tuck him behind these two and let them tow
me around, and Ericson's not going to be able to
make a move on me. It was a very smart
racing strategy from Alex Polow. It did not make for
end of race drama for the fans.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Oh, I agree, but I think that it does, you know,
illustrate your point, Alex Pelow, I don't think it's enough
credit for how savvy he is. He's a really savvy guy.
And we've talked, I think a little bit on this
show about how the guy never gets rattled by anything.
I mean, anything happens to him. You know, he had
the problem in mid Ohio that was you know, his
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own doing a couple weeks ago, and that was so
long characteristic, but just nothing seems to ever rattle the guy.
And so I think one of those things that I
think we're going to remember down the road about Alex
below is his race crack as savvy. Like you said,
when he came up behind Devlin and Louis Foster, there's
no reason to pass those guys. If nobody can behind
you can pass you, there's no reason to get up
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there and mix it up with those guys and and
potentially cause a problem or or have an opportunity for
you know, Marcus. And it actually worked out I think
better in the end that that Marcus didn't have a
chance to pass him, because if Marcus wins and then
gets disqualified, that's a disaster, you know, I think even
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worse than it was finishing second and then getting you know, disqualified.
So it ended up working out pretty well, I think.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And the guy that And this is what I've always said,
Mike about the Indianapolis five hundred and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
There are and I realized that people can sit here
and you know, you can debate until the cows. I'm
home about examples thereof of what I'm about to say,
But as a general rule, there are not fluke winners there.
When you look at the list of winners at the
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Indianapolis Motor Speedway, by and large, it represents those that
were the best drivers of their era or of that
year or whatever it may be. And Alex Polo absolutely
fits into that category.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And what's also interesting is have you noticed recently though
the trend other than I think the anomaly is the
year that Simon Pasino dominated. You know, he led over
one hundred laps. But if you noticed recently, the people
who win aren't leading the most laps or dominating the race.
I mean Polo only led, He led the last fourteen laps.
That's the only time he led in the race. So
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you know, the winner is winning, you know, and he's
leading only fifteen fourteen, twelve laps. We're not seeing that
other than that one anomaly again where Passional led like
one hundred and twelve laps or whatever it was that
year he had the great duel with ROSSI. You know,
the winner isn't winning with a huge lap total, you know,
to Kumasato actually led the most laps and I think
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Conor Ray was second, and that those two combined led
almost one hundred laps and then I think Polo only
led like fourteen laps.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It was the twenty twenty five eighty five hundred one
by Alex Polo. It was a year that, unfortunately, Mike,
it was the last five hundred for those for some
folks that were dear to us personally and dear to
the speedway and their contribution thereof as well. And that
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is one of the things about the Indy five hundred
is those people that you work alongside or you cheer alongside,
and that's what makes that facility so special, they become family,
and since the running of the eighty five hundred two today,
unfortunately we have lost some members of family.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
This I'm gonna say, honestly, this is not going to
be my favorite may of all time. I had a
really tough may you know that I got a concussion
in on Mother's Day of all things, and it kept
me from really having much of a conversation that day
with my mom because I ended up in the hospital
on Mother's Day. And then sadly, my mom got really
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sick over the race weekend and I got a call
while I was at the memorabilia show for my sister,
and she said, Hey, Mom's in the hospital, which wasn't
that unusual because my mom and I had some health problems,
so she would go in the hospital one or two
times a year. And I honestly was thinking, Okay, she'll
be in the hospital a day or two like usual,
and she'll go to the rehab facility and she'll be fine.
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And I wasn't thinking anything dire would happen. And then
she was getting a little bit worse during the weekend,
and then I didn't hear from her on the day
of the race, and I thought, Okay, this is a
little strange that she didn't call me and or I
didn'tet a chance to talk to her. And I got
a call with fifty laps to go. I'll never forget this.
There were fifty laps to go in the five hundred
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and I got a call from my sister and I
couldn't under stand my sister I was saying. I finally
said to her, you know, you have to like, I
couldn't understand what she was trying to say because she
was crying so hard. And she said, Hey, they're going
to put mom in hospice tomorrow. She's not going to
make it. And I mean, I was just I was
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shocked because I wasn't expecting that result. And so we
immediately went to Toledo and I was able to see
my mom a Memorial Day and communicate with her, and
she was able. She had a two hour window where
she was able to communicate basically a little bit and.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Talk and I was able to talk to her. And
then while I was.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Communicating with her, I had actually left the room for
about a five minute period and you called me. And
I'll never forget this because I was sitting in the
hospice and I was just I had my head in
my hands and you know, crying and head my head
in my hand, just kind of thinking, you know what's
coming next here. And they told me five minutes before
you called me, the hospice lady told me, you know,
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your mom's going to pass away, and it's going to
be in the next day or two.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Things like that. And phone rings.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And first the first the phone rang and it was Donald,
and Donald and I had a wonderful conversation, and then
I literally hung up the phone and it was you,
and you were just calling just to talk about Hey,
somebody called and said they loved beyond the Bricks, and
you were you didn't even know what was going on,
and I.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just wanted to thank you because you gave me.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
You and Donald both gave me about a five minute
period where life was normal, and that's really in that
kind of situation, it's really helpful to have a five
minute period of normalcy. And then, uh, you know, my
mom passed away later later on that night, so that
you know, it's just it's tough to go through that
and you think you're prepared for something like that, and
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then and then it happens. And then, like I talked
to my mom every Sunday, and so a lot of
times I would call her before the IndyCar race because
you know, I wanted to talk to her before the race,
and and uh, you know, it's sad to say, but
you don't want to, you know, if you're concentrating on
the race, you don't you know, you want to have
had that conversation and have the phone ring during the race.
And now you can't pick up the phone and call
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her anymore. And so it's a little it's a little
harder than I expected it would be to not be
able to talk to her. But I do want to
really want to thank you and the other folks who
know about what happened, who've contacted me and have been
so kind about it.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, Michae, I'll tell you that the one thing where
I feel really bad. And I say this only because
you know, I think it's something that hopefully most people
are of the same mindset. But I have always been
under the belief that when someone you know has lost
a loved one, even if it's a loved one that
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you didn't know personally, that it is your duty in
friendship to always make an appearance and show support at
the calling, maybe not the funeral itself of us, you know,
that's maybe for more people that knew the person that passed,
but that it's very important to show support at the calling.
And unfortunately, because you know, for those that listen to
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the program probably know you live about or your mother's
calling was about two and a half three hours from Indianapolis,
and the scheduling was such with and I can't remember
if it was a weekday or if it was leading
into a race itself, but I remember looking at the
note of it and realizing that I would not be
able to make it there and back under work circumstances.
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And I do apologize for that because I think it's
very important to be at those things. So if there
was some offer of or or display from my behalf
of something that helped you through that, I'm glad of
that because I felt really really bad that I was
not able to make it to the calling. But certainly
condolences to you, I know, from everybody, and that will
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continue to be the case, you know, for as long
as we're around. Right, And the fact that when your
mother or your father passes that's something that will will
stick with people obviously and carry on with them or
as long as they are around. So my condolence to
you on that. We also know that in the last
just in the last week, the news came out and
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somebody who had suffered an illness earlier and then passed
away recently. Ron mcqueeney was a chief photographer at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway for and he had been in that
position for a number of years. The key thing that people,
I guess the best way to say it for those
that were not familiar with Ron's work at the speedway,
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each and every one of those four years, photographs that
you see of the driver after they qualify, where they're
standing in their car with the team around. Ron mcqueeney
was essentially the photographer that would coordinate those pictures and
usually it was out of his camera those photos that
you saw. But Mike, I know that Ron was somebody
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that you worked with closely in your time at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yeah, when it's tough to talk about the fact that
Ron's gone because he was just such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He was really really special.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I didn't know him at all really until I moved
to Indianapolis, and then I met him and we kind
of hit it off because you know, he was interested
in the history of the speedway and and we would
have really fun chats about things like that, and and
I got to know him when when I when I
worked over there, and and uh, he he just was
just a great guy. And he when he left. I
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was really kind of sad when he left, because I
was thinking, you know, I kind of wanted him to
be in that role longer, so I could, you know,
visit with them longer. But then he went into being
the president of the Old Timers Society, and he actually
sponsored my, uh, you know, bid to get into the
Old Timers Society, and unfortunately it didn't it didn't work
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out that I got to be in the society at
that point. I forget what happened, but he sponsored me,
and I thought that was going to end up happening,
and it didn't end up happening. But I was just
honored the fact that he said, hey, I'm going to
be your because you have to have somebody who's in
the club basically say yeah, they're they're worthy of being
in it. And for Ron to say that about me.
I was like, that was just a huge honor to me,
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you know. So he was just a great guy, like
you said, he took so many iconic photographs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Just a great guy. And we've got a really.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Special SoundBite about Ron talking about how he got the job,
and then we'll talk a real bit quick on the
way back out of it where we got that sound bite.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Here is Ron mcqueeney. I'm becoming the chief photographer of
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
My boss, Charlene Ellis, decided she wanted to go to
a better paying job and she had a job lined
up in Phoenix, and I got wind of it and
I talked to her. I said, do you mind if
I try out.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
For the job.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
She says, no, that doesn't bother me. So I went
and talked to the boss, which at the time was
alb Lemker. They had a PR and then, and the
photo department was underneath PR. There were eight people that
tried for the job, and I was the one that
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was chosen out of the eight photographers that wanted that job,
and it was like a dream come true. I had
no idea that I'd ever get that job, and when
I did, it was just the most fascinating thing I'd
ever been into. A lot of people had asked me,
what do you do the rest of the year. Well,
we shipped photos around the world, people doing magazines, newspaper articles,
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TV articles, books, almost anything where a photograph is used.
We ship pictures on a daily basis. And I worked
the dark room. I had an assistant with me to
do dark room work for a while.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Ron mcqueeney had began his work at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway in the early seventies. He became the chief photographer
in nineteen seventy seven, passed away Mike on July fifth.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, and we got that SoundBite from from Sean, and
I want to give Sean a shout out Sean and
his and his website Voices of Racing, So if you
go to Voices of Racing dot com. I actually just
called him up kind of out of the blue because
I knew he had interviewed Ron, and I said, hey,
you know we do beyond the bricks. I'd love to
use your sound bite. And you know I'm not going
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to just steal your stuff. I'd love to have your
SoundBite with Ron for the show. Is it okay if
we use it, and so he was very gracious to
let us use it. And he's got four part series
with Ron talking about not only his career but some
of his memorabilia and things like that. So make sure
you go to Voices of Racing dot com and check
out his interviews with Ron and other folks from the
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racing world.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So I think you really enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
It's not often during the racing season. And Ron mcqueeney,
by the way, and as should be the goal for
all of us. His certainly, the footprint, the fingerprints, the
ways that he touched the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will be
his legacy, will be the work that he do. We'll
have an impact on the speedway for many, many years
to come. So god speed certainly to Ron mcqueeney and
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condolences to his friends and family. It's not often during
the racing season that we can sneak in a little
vacation time, but I did exactly that, And Mike, if
you don't mind me saying so, it seemed as though,
and I appreciate this, you actually took some interest in
the trip that I took very.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Much, so I wanted to hear a little bit about
this trip, and so I built the surest of the
show around your trip, and so I'm excited to hear
about this all.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Right, And that is I went over across the pond,
and I did so to see a band and a
band that is very, very very beloved in the country
of England. It's not Mike's favorite band, but they're close
to them, although that's a subject of debate in the
United Kingdom. We'll talk about going over to see Oasis
and how that plays into the history of the Indianapolis
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Motor Speedway. We'll talk about all of that when we
return to be on the bricks.
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Five at the race, update we will simply give you
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begin by talking about what's going to take. Place On,
saturday eleven o'clock in the, morning the gates will, open
and then at one pm it is qualifying for The
expinity cars at The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway at two thirty
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five it is qualifying for The cup. Cars that will
take place until three thirty and then at four point
thirty it is The Pins oil two point fifty taking,
place followed it By sunday at two o'clock it will
be the running of The brickyard four hundred at The
Indianapolis Motor.
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Speaker 6 (24:10):
Fan this is what it sounded like Seeing oasis live
At Heaton park In, Manchester, england WHICH i had the
pleasure of. Doing you got to turn that up a
little bit, here. Lad you don't look back at anger about. Anything,
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really there's nothing to be gained by. That let me tell, You,
mike how it came to be THAT i went to
go See. Oasis and for those that are, Unfamiliar oasis
is A british band that had their peak certainly and
their breakthrough in the early to mid, nineties and at
the time that they came, about they were very controversial
because they had famously or infamously In england said that
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they would be bigger than The, beatles And liam And
Noah gallagher two brothers that have a volatile, relationship and,
shortly basically once they hit their zenith in, popularity probably
from ninety five to two, Thousand i'll say it in,
there their relationship was on, again off again and it was,
always you, know, inconsistent and, ultimately sixteen years ago they
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broke up and said that's, It we're not performing together.
Anymore for me, PERSONALLY i did WHAT i call a
deep dive on the band after that. Fact so WHEN
i really started listening To oasis a lot and learning
about them and em AND i obviously knew of them
and their peak, popularity BUT i started listening to them
more and listening to the, words and it started just
becoming a reflective thing to me on the time period
(25:41):
in which they were so, big which was a great
period of my, life because the mid twenties are fun
for anybody, Really and THEN i, realized, gosh what a,
shame BECAUSE i really really like this band, now but
they no longer are playing. Together the same can be
said of Another british band THAT i really, like Called The,
verve whose lead singer is a guy by the name
Of Richard. Ashcroft oasis announced about a year ago that
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they would be in fact reuniting and that they would
be playing fourteen shows in The United kingdom before coming
over to The United. States the third and fourth of
those shows took place recently In, manchester and my cousin
AND i went over to go see. THEM i saw
them on back to back nights on A friday And
saturday At Heaton, park which is essentially the central park Of, Manchester,
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England manchester being their. Hometown, MIKE i will simply say this,
SPORTS i think in The indianapolis five hundred and The
Indianapolis Motor. Speedway the reason that we go back to
it every, year the reason we talk about, it the
reason we listen to audio of old races and, clips
is because sports allows us to have a spontaneous bliss
amongst the masses and amongst. Strangers it bonds people, together
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even if you are from totally different backgrounds or totally
different neighborhoods or places of. Employment if you root for
the same team as the guy or gal next to
you and a big shot is, made then you have
a connection with that person and with other. Humans music
does the same. Thing and those two concerts to be
there with they said eighty, THOUSAND i would say it
(27:07):
was probably closer to one hundred thousand on each, night
and have people from all areas of the globe there
to see this band and enjoying the same spontaneous, Bliss
and before you know, it you are singing along with
people you've never met, Before you're high fiving guys you've
never seen, before you are arm in arm with people
swaying back and. Forth it truly was a magical weekend
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and it was an awesome. Event and it's the kind
of thing THAT i hope that everybody can find the
same kind of spontaneous joy and whatever leisure it is
that they find within their hobbies and their.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Habits, OH i couldn't agree. MORE i think that's.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Right AND i think what you undersold a little bit,
though is the fact of how much venom there was
between The gallagher. BROTHERS i, mean these guys couldn't stand
each other for over a, decade and the fact that
they got back together to do a. CONCERT i mean
that the only thing that would be news is IF
i walked back into the facility in the. INFIELD i,
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mean that's how much contempt there was. There, SO i,
mean this was amazing the fact that The gallagher brothers
got back, together and you're right to have these kind
of communal, activities AND i can't imagine how cool it
would have been to be there with all those, folks
especially in their. HOMETOWN i, mean that has had to
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have been absolutely amazing because they're just they're Just they're
one of those bands that you, know, Again Don't Look
back In anger is one of my ten favorite songs
of all, time AND i can't imagine what that would
have been like to hear that, song you.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Know and for that, Matter Richard ashcroft was the opening
act and he Did Bittersweet, symphony which is the verb's
biggest Hit Lucky man In. Sonnet so it was it
was a special evening for. Certain one of the things
that hit me in being, there even though there were
people from all over the, WORLD a lot of the
people THAT i talked to and enjoyed the show with
were From, manchester AND i think they were very proud
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and hospitable about having people coming from so far away
to enjoy one of their native products and enjoy it
in their. City that's what allowed, Me, mike to really
grasp what it's like for people that come To, indianapolis
to go to The indianapolis five hundred and have an
appreciation for something that, say you AND i just consider our,
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backyard and yet people from all over the world come
to enjoy. It and that CONNECTION i could relate to.
IT i could relate to how those people felt and
what it.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Meant, YEAH i, mean it's just one of those things
THAT i think music touches people in such an interesting.
Way and the, Speedway you're, RIGHT i think that's the same.
Thing the speedway touches people in a, way and it's
one of those things it's almost impossible to, describe, Right
it's hard to explain that to somebody who hasn't been
to The.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Speedway and it.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Also you, know, people it's hard for me to relate
at times to people who don't when music doesn't touch,
them just because you, KNOW i, mean music can overwhelm
me at, times and the same thing when the cars
come down for the start of the five. Hundred if
that doesn't get you, GOING i don't. KNOW i don't
know what that says about people who doesn't it doesn't
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do something for. Them BUT i think you're one hundred percent.
RIGHT i, mean there's definitely a similarity.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
There now similarities As i've, mentioned between and and that.
Weekend by the way THAT i was there was during
the two Step iowa race for The IndyCar. Series when
the schedule came out That IndyCar was going to be
When oasis WAS i, simply you, know said, Hey i'm
going to essentially take a, vacation you, know a couple days,
vacation And Chris, pollock the general manager of the radio
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network said totally. Understand and so that's how that came
to be THAT i was not there for The iowa.
Race but it was interesting coming back from the concert
On friday and watching The iowa race For IndyCar On
Sky network which was airing it In Great, britain and
then On saturday or excuse me, sorry The saturday night.
RACE i did, that and then On, sunday When IndyCar
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was racing In. IOWA i was actually on the flight
back home and was able Via Wi fi to listen
To Mark, James Michael young and the rest of the
group calling the race on The IndyCar Radio, network which
was very.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Cool so but my question is, THIS i, mean you
you have a pretty, good pretty good boss there With Chris,
pollack WHO i also, know AND i Like chris a.
Lot the fact that you And Nick yeoman were off
on the same weekend and not there In, IOWA i,
MEAN i was like that that was pretty surprising to me,
BECAUSE i, mean you guys are two of the most
important people on the on the, network and to have
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both you And nick not, THERE i WAS i was
a little surprised that you could both be. OFF i,
mean it's one thing to have one of your key guys,
off but to have both your key guys to your
key guys, OFF i was a little surprised that you
were both not there that.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
WEEK i think it shows the depth of the guys
that we you, know that we all work, with and
the people with men and women that work at the radio,
network and also the. Understanding nick had an opportunity to
call a race In sonoma FOR, prn which works with
The IndyCar network for the brickyard coming. Up so the
marriage and the confluence of those two particular groups the
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reason Why nick was not there AND i was not.
There and so then you, Know alex wolf comes, over
and you know there's a number of The Drake yorke
and others that get involved so well that.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
You have a Great, no you have a great bench
if you, WILL i Mean Joel sebastianelli and all these
other folks that you have come, In Alex, Wolfe like you,
Said Ryan, marine it's a it's a talented group of
folks that you, guys that you guys work.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
With it was a great, weekend no question about.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Now the reason why we brought it up is because
we talked about confluence and you know the similarities Of
oasis and The. Beatles The beatles had a trip to
The Indianapolis Motor speedway and we've mentioned it before but
not really, done AS i, said a deep dive on.
It so guess what that's exactly what we'll do next
when we return To beyond The. Bricks this is beyond the.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Bricks you by quality supply in tool think outside the
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five the, Fans Jake, Querry.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Mike thompson inside THE bet three sixty five race Command.
Center here quality supply a tool helping bring you beyond the,
Bricks land and coons putting it all together for us
talking about The beatles and their trip in nineteen sixty
four to The Indianapolis Motor, speedway we've played that up
a little bit by telling you about my trip to
go See. Oasis but The beatles came to our fabulous
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facility back in nineteen sixty, four and there was not
necessarily always the plan that they would stay at sixteenth In,
georgetown but that's in fact where they would lay their
heads while playing at The Indiana Fairgrounds. Coliseum Speedway Historian
Emeritus Donald davidson on why The beatles stayed at The
Indianapolis Motor.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Speedway apparently the groups regularly stayed at The Essex house
downtown and for whatever, reason and in nineteen sixty, four
basically what you had was the big, hotels the big
old established hotels downtown and then the motels on. Forty
but you, know there was no four to sixty five.
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YET i think that was just starting to be, built
and so really there wasn't anywhere else to go except
if you went to the downtown. Area well there was
The Holiday, inn or AS i would call, it The
Holiday in across the, street and then The Speedway motel
had opened In march or is Approximately easter of nineteen sixty,
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Three so that's where they decided that The beatles could
go because the general crowd wouldn't figure it.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Out Chuck gunderson is an author that covers The, beatles
and he also gives his version of the decision to
stay at The Indianapolis Motor speedway for The fab.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Four had The beatles toured to the social media age
and The facebook And twitter, AGE i mean we would
know exactly where they were at all times of the
day and. Night we would have photos of them, everything
and it was spot that they were going to stay
at The Essex. House but that wasn't the. Case brian
or Really Tour management which Was General Artists corporation and
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handled the. Tour they were a talent agency out Of
New York. City they actually booked all the hotels and
things like. That, well they booked The Speedway, motel which you,
know it's great For indie car. Drivers but for The,
beatles it wasn't such a great place because of its.
Layout but The Speedway motel had open corridors and kind
of an open parking lot for fans to really kind
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of get in there and try to try to work
their way in to get to see The.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Beatles, MIKE i like this next clip because this is
from a local television station and they're coverage correct of The.
Beatles that's.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Correct WISH tv actually did a show Called my Or
Our Fare, beatles which ran In september of sixty, four
kind of covering the beatles whole trip To. Indianapolis it's
a really cool show that you can actually find on.
Speaker 10 (35:53):
YouTube in the, morning the remarkably well kept secret began
to leak. Out people whispered that The beatles were houses
the speedy. Motel the, screaming violent crowds of people were
still not. INEVIDENCE a few faithful fans maintained a vigil
outside the police lines in hopes of getting a glimpse
of just one. Beefle the policemen ready for any emergency, Waiting.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Mike, not unlike when you walked through The Indianapolis Motor,
speedway there's always a buzz right about. That so you
can only imagine what it was like when The beatles were,
there and just some of the PROTOCOLS i would imagine
that had to take, place, right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's, Right.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
DONALD i actually talked to him about the different protocols
because people were calling the. Switchboard they had a switchboard
there at The speedway, motel and they wanted people obviously
wanted to talk to any member of the fab foard
they could get ahold. Of So donald talked about how
they put some protocols in place to keep that from.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Happening they must have had a little bit of an,
entourage but they didn't have a bunch of roadies like
they do. Now and, HONESTLY i don't know what the
traveling group consisted, of but they did put out a
kind of a red herring that The Essex house was
where they would be, staying and whatever extra people that they,
had that's where they. Stayed and again they didn't have
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like thirty forty fifty people and truckloads of equipment and.
Everything it was a very simple setup in those. Days
so they booked the three rooms and a GENTLEMAN i
knew very well Named David cassidy happened to be the
manager of the, motel and he told me all these.
Stories and he said that they booked three rooms And
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Brian epstein had, one and then the, boys believe it or,
not doubled up two by two in the other two.
Rooms and he, said we knew that we'd probably be
getting a lot of phone, calls and so the word
was at the, switchboard don't put any calls through unless
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because you'll have people with all kinds of excuses and
everything to try and talk to The beatles if they've
either figured that they're there or guests that they're. There
and they said that if it is an official when
it comes and you will be Told liverpool, calling even
if it's from Here, liverpool It's liverpool, calling will be
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the parish word that that's an official. Call and put
them all through To Brian. Epstein don't put any into
the other two.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Rooms Jerry baker was a longtime voice of The Indianapolis
Motor speedway radio. Network not only, that but he also
happened to be the familiar voice that introduced The beatles
to the crowd In. Indianapolis one, minute, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
One one put, Second.
Speaker 11 (38:34):
Frank.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Similian the banks are a great.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
CROWD i didn't come up through The Frank sinatra. AGE
i Think frank.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is one of the.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
GREATEST i missed The sinatra. ERA i was right in
the middle of The Elvis chrysli. Era BUT i have
never in my life than anything like you know who
on behalf of all of The State Fair board and
all the good GUYS wifb MAY i.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Present Ringo starr was one of them that, said you know,
What i'm not just going to be cooped up in
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the hotel, Room. Mike he decided to actually take his
own little two Of. Indianapolis, correct that's.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Right this story has taken out a bit of a
life of its, own As ringos told several different versions
of this, story but this is one. Version he told
of the story To David, letterman and When David letterman
had his talk, show he.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Must have been at one of.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
THEM i, WAS i was In.
Speaker 12 (39:37):
Indianapolis everybody was in indian and there was a there
was a story after the show's There and you probably
heard this if in every city you attended that you
stayed up all night and drove around town with a police.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Officer, yeah was that true or was that just that's
one of the true stories.
Speaker 12 (39:55):
And Why, indianapolis why a policeman was a friendly.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Policeman it's a let me drive the police, call AND
i said, Yeah and we were driving. Around the funniest
bit that no one else knows is that we would
chase final the cup.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Call is that?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Right and we had to drive up An aliens and
the lights out and hide And i'm hiding with this
coffin an alis so we didn't get.
Speaker 12 (40:16):
COOLED i see that would have been bad if you'd
get a gunned down in An indianapolis alley and some
kind of police.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
SHOOTOUT i don't think of that or the other. Thing
you could have made citizens arrests all.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
NIGHT i could arrested the cup and let me drive his.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Gun Chuck gunderson with more On Ringo's big night on The.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Town the concert had been, played he just couldn't get to,
sleep so he wandered outside The speedway motel and talked
the troopers into taking him on a tour in their
police cruiser and see some of the sights Of. Indiana
so they dropped by The governor's mansion and they drove
around Downtown indianapolis and then the trooper had a great.
Idea he wanted to take. Them we're un to Take
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Ringo star out to his farmhouse outside in the. Country
and they had arrived in the early. Morn warning is
his wife was actually getting the horses ready to be
shown at The Indiana State fair that, day and she
was just looking At ringo, like, well who this guy
that you brought? Home she could care. Less, well one
person really, cared and that was the officer's. Daughter she
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was eleven years old at the.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Time The beatle that was most interested in the tour
of the, speedway because The beatles did take a tour
of the speedway as, well Was George. Harrison Donald. Davidson
on Where George harrison's interest in racing came.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
From Graham hill and then Later Damon hill apparently was
very fond Of And i've always thought That Damon hill
And George harrison looked very. ALIKE i, Mean i'm not
maybe quite to the point of being, brothers but they
could almost be. RELATED i, MEAN i know brothers that
look less the likes than those two. Do but where
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his interest in motorsports came, FROM i don't, know except
That british people tend to be interested in motor racing
except that he's it's the only one of the four
THAT i know had an. Interest but it was quite,
extensive and he would go to The British Grand. PRIX
i don't he never came to The indianapolis five hundred
as far AS i, know but he did go To
Long beach. Anyway to my, knowledge he never came to
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a five hundred.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
Here, MIKE i know how much you love The. BEATLES
i know how much you loved The Indianapolis Motor. SPEEDWAY
i feel like we could do an entire two hours
on nothing But beatles and.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Ims there's no question about. That we could easily do
two to four hours on both of those.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
THINGS i will tell you that during my TRIP i
also went to The Cavern club In liverpool where The
beatles played two hundred ninety two, times and it was,
very very, cool but not as cool as The Indianapolis Motor.
Speedway but what Is that's why we talk about it
each and every night anytime that there's a race taking
place at The Indianapolismoter speedway on this program that we
Call beyond The. Bricks we thank you for listening to it,
tonight so much. Fun we'll do it again tomorrow For
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Landing coons And Mike. Thompson I'm Jake. Querry we will
talk to you tomorrow
Only the best run here of the Indianapolis five hundred l.
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Speaker 6 (00:43):
Here it is another installment of Beyond the Bricks and
what does that mean? It means it is a race
week at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Good evening to you.
It is our pleasure once again to join you to
talk about the storylines, the personalities, the teams that and
all of the events that have taken place historically at
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the world's most famous racetrack at sixteenth in Georgetown. The
Indianapolis Motor Speedway and Mike Thompson is for those of
you who are new to the program. A historian from
an audio standpoint, from a variety of standpoints, but certainly
in terms of the history of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
as told through an audio variation. Mike has a library
(01:27):
that is like, as a matter of fact, he lives
in the state of Ohio and for years, when you
see those videos or pictures on Facebook of Lebron James
old house outside of Cleveland, that he's trying to sell,
that's like one hundred and thirty thousand square feet, that
actually is Mike's audio library is what that is. And Mike,
it is always fun once again to resume and talk
(01:48):
about a place that is so special to both of us.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
Man, my house gets bigger every time we do this show.
They're not paying me that much, buddy, but yeah, it's
always fun to do it, and I I really appreciate
the opportunity and we get so many people who come
up to us and say so many nice things.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And people came up in May and I actually had
a couple of people.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
It was kind of strange because a couple of people
at the Memorybila show and May were like, I want
to get a picture with you because you're on Beyond
the Bricks, and that was the first time that's ever happened,
and it was just it was just kind of fun,
you know. So you know, I, you know, I don't
think of myself in any kind of celebrity status from
doing the show, but it's just fun that people love
the show so much, and I know you have people
(02:28):
call in and talk to you about doing the show
and how much you know they enjoy listening to you, Jake.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
So it's a lot of fun for us, and a
lot of those folks I realize are listening not in
our original airing on one O seven five the Fan
in Indianapolis or ninety three WIBC, depending on what the
schedule lays out, but oftentimes in podcast form after the
fact that throughout the course of the year. So if
you are one of those, it is appreciated as well. Mike,
let's begin by talking about the last time that we
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were together and doing a show. Of course, this is
the week that the NASCAR Series comes to the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway. There is a history there. We'll cross into
some of that over the course of the week, but
also the Indianapolis five hundred taking place in May, I
thought personally, and you look back and it's funny because
it was just two months ago, but you know, in
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some aspects it feels like a long time ago because
there have been so many races and things that have
happened since then that we'll get into. But when you
look back at the twenty twenty five Indianapolis five hundred
bio race, it is one of those to me that
I think years from now, and I remember saying after
the fact, this is one of those races where years
(03:39):
from now, and I was saying this right, you know,
after the race ended, we will remember perhaps Scott McLaughlin's
spinning before the race began and knocking himself out of
the race, and we will remember a rain delay to
start the race at Alex winning the race, and there
was not a lot memorable that took place in the
(03:59):
in between. And that's not a knock on the race
or the drivers of the speedway, but there are certain
years where it just comes down to it where the
race just feels like there wasn't a whole lot of
happening within it. That's not to say there wasn't, but
I really thought, Mike, and I've said this before. The
Indianapolis Motor Speedway is a very weather dependent facility, and
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for those that have never been there, what I mean
by that is, I've always said, when it's a clear
day or a sunny day, there's no more glorious place
on earth to be, and when it's a rainy day
and a weighted out day, there is no more frustrating,
depressing place on earth to be, because you want so
badly to see your memories and have everything be perfect
the way it's been in the past. This year's race
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had kind of a little bit of both, but the
fact that they had to basically go through all of
the pre race then not a pour down rain, but
enough just drizzle, I call it frust raining. There was
just enough to interrupt things and you kind of had
to hurt you up and wait, and I just thought
Mike had kind of set a tone.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
For the day. Oh, I agree, I mean it was.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
It's so frustrating to be at the speedway when it's
raining or just like you said, enough rain to cause
a delay or difficulties, and it's just such a frustrating.
There's so many days I've been out there where it's
just like almost like a mist and it's just enough
to lose the track enough to cause problems, and it did.
It was a kind of a disjointed The whole month
(05:26):
of May was disjointed for me in general, and it
just felt a little bit disjointed. And I look back
at one thing that I don't think got enough discussion
in May, which was you have to feel for Ryan
hunter Ray and those guys, because I think Ryan hunter
Ray had that race one if he doesn't run out
of fuel. I just have this gut feeling that Ryan
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hunter Ray wins that race and it's just one of
those things that got away for that drying Ryanbold team,
And what a story that would have been for hunter
Ray to win his second race and for Drying Ryan Bold,
a little team that could could have, you know, knocked
off the big teams. And I just I think they
have to be really lamenting the fact that they they
kind of let one get away, in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And the same thing that happened to Ryan hunter Ray
happened to Joseph Neugarten. And by that I mean, and
I don't know. I'm not an engineer, Mike, but it's
my understanding. And hunter rais case for example, when he
ran out of fuel, he ran low. They had enough
fuel to get him back into Pitt Road. But once
the fuel gets so gets to a certain point of
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being low, then it's a problem of getting it to
be to go into the fuel line. And that's what
happened to Hunter Ray. I think the same thing happened
to Joseph Newgarden in terms of that fuel line went bad.
I agree with you that Hunter Ray, and credit to
Dryan Rainbold, they did a fabulous job with Hunter Ray
and Jack Harvey both of taking advantage of you know,
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caution flags that came out to go off sequence and
then put themselves in Hunter raise case, back into the
lead sequence of the point where where he was not
necessarily off sequence. He put himself in position where he
was running upfront and was in position to your point,
and I agree that I thought it looked like it
was going to go his way. New Garden as well,
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considering he had to start shotgun on the field. He
absolutely worked his way through the field where he was
then there within at one point the top five, certainly
in the top ten when his day came to an end,
and I really felt like he's another one that things
were going his way and starting to set up nicely
for him. None of this is to take anything away
(07:33):
from Alex Polo, who ended up obviously winning the race
and has been historically on a run here to start
the twenty twenty five entt IndyCar season. But the one
thing to me that I look at with Polo, and
I give him credit for this mike but did not
make for great racing for the fans. But Polo was
savvy enough to figure out and to know and understand,
(07:54):
and I think Marcus Erickson knew this as well. Once
Polo got in front of Ericson, he did realized that
when he had in front of him the tandem of
Louis Foster and Deviln di Francesco, it was in Polo's
best interest to just tuck behind them because of the
weight of the cars with the hybrid now makes it
where if you are three or four in line, it's
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very difficult to step out and make a pass because
of the air and the way it works. So Polo
knew for that last dozen laps or so, hey, I'll
just tuck him behind these two and let them tow
me around, and Ericson's not going to be able to
make a move on me. It was a very smart
racing strategy from Alex Polow. It did not make for
end of race drama for the fans.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Oh, I agree, but I think that it does, you know,
illustrate your point, Alex Pelow, I don't think it's enough
credit for how savvy he is. He's a really savvy guy.
And we've talked, I think a little bit on this
show about how the guy never gets rattled by anything.
I mean, anything happens to him. You know, he had
the problem in mid Ohio that was you know, his
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own doing a couple weeks ago, and that was so
long characteristic, but just nothing seems to ever rattle the guy.
And so I think one of those things that I
think we're going to remember down the road about Alex
below is his race crack as savvy. Like you said,
when he came up behind Devlin and Louis Foster, there's
no reason to pass those guys. If nobody can behind
you can pass you, there's no reason to get up
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there and mix it up with those guys and and
potentially cause a problem or or have an opportunity for
you know, Marcus. And it actually worked out I think
better in the end that that Marcus didn't have a
chance to pass him, because if Marcus wins and then
gets disqualified, that's a disaster, you know, I think even
(09:40):
worse than it was finishing second and then getting you know, disqualified.
So it ended up working out pretty well, I think.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
And the guy that And this is what I've always said,
Mike about the Indianapolis five hundred and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
There are and I realized that people can sit here
and you know, you can debate until the cows. I'm
home about examples thereof of what I'm about to say,
But as a general rule, there are not fluke winners there.
When you look at the list of winners at the
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Indianapolis Motor Speedway, by and large, it represents those that
were the best drivers of their era or of that
year or whatever it may be. And Alex Polo absolutely
fits into that category.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And what's also interesting is have you noticed recently though
the trend other than I think the anomaly is the
year that Simon Pasino dominated. You know, he led over
one hundred laps. But if you noticed recently, the people
who win aren't leading the most laps or dominating the race.
I mean Polo only led, He led the last fourteen laps.
That's the only time he led in the race. So
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you know, the winner is winning, you know, and he's
leading only fifteen fourteen, twelve laps. We're not seeing that
other than that one anomaly again where Passional led like
one hundred and twelve laps or whatever it was that
year he had the great duel with ROSSI. You know,
the winner isn't winning with a huge lap total, you know,
to Kumasato actually led the most laps and I think
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Conor Ray was second, and that those two combined led
almost one hundred laps and then I think Polo only
led like fourteen laps.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You know.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
It was the twenty twenty five eighty five hundred one
by Alex Polo. It was a year that, unfortunately, Mike,
it was the last five hundred for those for some
folks that were dear to us personally and dear to
the speedway and their contribution thereof as well. And that
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is one of the things about the Indy five hundred
is those people that you work alongside or you cheer alongside,
and that's what makes that facility so special, they become family,
and since the running of the eighty five hundred two today,
unfortunately we have lost some members of family.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
This I'm gonna say, honestly, this is not going to
be my favorite may of all time. I had a
really tough may you know that I got a concussion
in on Mother's Day of all things, and it kept
me from really having much of a conversation that day
with my mom because I ended up in the hospital
on Mother's Day. And then sadly, my mom got really
(12:12):
sick over the race weekend and I got a call
while I was at the memorabilia show for my sister,
and she said, Hey, Mom's in the hospital, which wasn't
that unusual because my mom and I had some health problems,
so she would go in the hospital one or two
times a year. And I honestly was thinking, Okay, she'll
be in the hospital a day or two like usual,
and she'll go to the rehab facility and she'll be fine.
(12:35):
And I wasn't thinking anything dire would happen. And then
she was getting a little bit worse during the weekend,
and then I didn't hear from her on the day
of the race, and I thought, Okay, this is a
little strange that she didn't call me and or I
didn'tet a chance to talk to her. And I got
a call with fifty laps to go. I'll never forget this.
There were fifty laps to go in the five hundred
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and I got a call from my sister and I
couldn't under stand my sister I was saying. I finally
said to her, you know, you have to like, I
couldn't understand what she was trying to say because she
was crying so hard. And she said, Hey, they're going
to put mom in hospice tomorrow. She's not going to
make it. And I mean, I was just I was
(13:16):
shocked because I wasn't expecting that result. And so we
immediately went to Toledo and I was able to see
my mom a Memorial Day and communicate with her, and
she was able. She had a two hour window where
she was able to communicate basically a little bit and.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Talk and I was able to talk to her. And
then while I was.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Communicating with her, I had actually left the room for
about a five minute period and you called me. And
I'll never forget this because I was sitting in the
hospice and I was just I had my head in
my hands and you know, crying and head my head
in my hand, just kind of thinking, you know what's
coming next here. And they told me five minutes before
you called me, the hospice lady told me, you know,
(13:56):
your mom's going to pass away, and it's going to
be in the next day or two.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Things like that. And phone rings.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And first the first the phone rang and it was Donald,
and Donald and I had a wonderful conversation, and then
I literally hung up the phone and it was you,
and you were just calling just to talk about Hey,
somebody called and said they loved beyond the Bricks, and
you were you didn't even know what was going on,
and I.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just wanted to thank you because you gave me.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
You and Donald both gave me about a five minute
period where life was normal, and that's really in that
kind of situation, it's really helpful to have a five
minute period of normalcy. And then, uh, you know, my
mom passed away later later on that night, so that
you know, it's just it's tough to go through that
and you think you're prepared for something like that, and
(14:41):
then and then it happens. And then, like I talked
to my mom every Sunday, and so a lot of
times I would call her before the IndyCar race because
you know, I wanted to talk to her before the race,
and and uh, you know, it's sad to say, but
you don't want to, you know, if you're concentrating on
the race, you don't you know, you want to have
had that conversation and have the phone ring during the race.
And now you can't pick up the phone and call
(15:04):
her anymore. And so it's a little it's a little
harder than I expected it would be to not be
able to talk to her. But I do want to
really want to thank you and the other folks who
know about what happened, who've contacted me and have been
so kind about it.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Well, Michae, I'll tell you that the one thing where
I feel really bad. And I say this only because
you know, I think it's something that hopefully most people
are of the same mindset. But I have always been
under the belief that when someone you know has lost
a loved one, even if it's a loved one that
(15:39):
you didn't know personally, that it is your duty in
friendship to always make an appearance and show support at
the calling, maybe not the funeral itself of us, you know,
that's maybe for more people that knew the person that passed,
but that it's very important to show support at the calling.
And unfortunately, because you know, for those that listen to
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the program probably know you live about or your mother's
calling was about two and a half three hours from Indianapolis,
and the scheduling was such with and I can't remember
if it was a weekday or if it was leading
into a race itself, but I remember looking at the
note of it and realizing that I would not be
able to make it there and back under work circumstances.
(16:22):
And I do apologize for that because I think it's
very important to be at those things. So if there
was some offer of or or display from my behalf
of something that helped you through that, I'm glad of
that because I felt really really bad that I was
not able to make it to the calling. But certainly
condolences to you, I know, from everybody, and that will
(16:44):
continue to be the case, you know, for as long
as we're around. Right, And the fact that when your
mother or your father passes that's something that will will
stick with people obviously and carry on with them or
as long as they are around. So my condolence to
you on that. We also know that in the last
just in the last week, the news came out and
(17:06):
somebody who had suffered an illness earlier and then passed
away recently. Ron mcqueeney was a chief photographer at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway for and he had been in that
position for a number of years. The key thing that people,
I guess the best way to say it for those
that were not familiar with Ron's work at the speedway,
(17:27):
each and every one of those four years, photographs that
you see of the driver after they qualify, where they're
standing in their car with the team around. Ron mcqueeney
was essentially the photographer that would coordinate those pictures and
usually it was out of his camera those photos that
you saw. But Mike, I know that Ron was somebody
(17:47):
that you worked with closely in your time at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
Yeah, when it's tough to talk about the fact that
Ron's gone because he was just such a great guy.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
He was really really special.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
I didn't know him at all really until I moved
to Indianapolis, and then I met him and we kind
of hit it off because you know, he was interested
in the history of the speedway and and we would
have really fun chats about things like that, and and
I got to know him when when I when I
worked over there, and and uh, he he just was
just a great guy. And he when he left. I
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was really kind of sad when he left, because I
was thinking, you know, I kind of wanted him to
be in that role longer, so I could, you know,
visit with them longer. But then he went into being
the president of the Old Timers Society, and he actually
sponsored my, uh, you know, bid to get into the
Old Timers Society, and unfortunately it didn't it didn't work
(18:44):
out that I got to be in the society at
that point. I forget what happened, but he sponsored me,
and I thought that was going to end up happening,
and it didn't end up happening. But I was just
honored the fact that he said, hey, I'm going to
be your because you have to have somebody who's in
the club basically say yeah, they're they're worthy of being
in it. And for Ron to say that about me.
I was like, that was just a huge honor to me,
(19:05):
you know. So he was just a great guy, like
you said, he took so many iconic photographs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Just a great guy. And we've got a really.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Special SoundBite about Ron talking about how he got the job,
and then we'll talk a real bit quick on the
way back out of it where we got that sound bite.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Here is Ron mcqueeney. I'm becoming the chief photographer of
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
My boss, Charlene Ellis, decided she wanted to go to
a better paying job and she had a job lined
up in Phoenix, and I got wind of it and
I talked to her. I said, do you mind if
I try out.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
For the job.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
She says, no, that doesn't bother me. So I went
and talked to the boss, which at the time was
alb Lemker. They had a PR and then, and the
photo department was underneath PR. There were eight people that
tried for the job, and I was the one that
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was chosen out of the eight photographers that wanted that job,
and it was like a dream come true. I had
no idea that I'd ever get that job, and when
I did, it was just the most fascinating thing I'd
ever been into. A lot of people had asked me,
what do you do the rest of the year. Well,
we shipped photos around the world, people doing magazines, newspaper articles,
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TV articles, books, almost anything where a photograph is used.
We ship pictures on a daily basis. And I worked
the dark room. I had an assistant with me to
do dark room work for a while.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Ron mcqueeney had began his work at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway in the early seventies. He became the chief photographer
in nineteen seventy seven, passed away Mike on July fifth.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yeah, and we got that SoundBite from from Sean, and
I want to give Sean a shout out Sean and
his and his website Voices of Racing, So if you
go to Voices of Racing dot com. I actually just
called him up kind of out of the blue because
I knew he had interviewed Ron, and I said, hey,
you know we do beyond the bricks. I'd love to
use your sound bite. And you know I'm not going
(21:21):
to just steal your stuff. I'd love to have your
SoundBite with Ron for the show. Is it okay if
we use it, and so he was very gracious to
let us use it. And he's got four part series
with Ron talking about not only his career but some
of his memorabilia and things like that. So make sure
you go to Voices of Racing dot com and check
out his interviews with Ron and other folks from the
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racing world.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So I think you really enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
It's not often during the racing season. And Ron mcqueeney,
by the way, and as should be the goal for
all of us. His certainly, the footprint, the fingerprints, the
ways that he touched the Indianapolis Motor Speedway will be
his legacy, will be the work that he do. We'll
have an impact on the speedway for many, many years
to come. So god speed certainly to Ron mcqueeney and
(22:06):
condolences to his friends and family. It's not often during
the racing season that we can sneak in a little
vacation time, but I did exactly that, And Mike, if
you don't mind me saying so, it seemed as though,
and I appreciate this, you actually took some interest in
the trip that I took very.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Much, so I wanted to hear a little bit about
this trip, and so I built the surest of the
show around your trip, and so I'm excited to hear
about this all.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
Right, And that is I went over across the pond,
and I did so to see a band and a
band that is very, very very beloved in the country
of England. It's not Mike's favorite band, but they're close
to them, although that's a subject of debate in the
United Kingdom. We'll talk about going over to see Oasis
and how that plays into the history of the Indianapolis
(22:50):
Motor Speedway. We'll talk about all of that when we
return to be on the bricks.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
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Speaker 6 (23:16):
Five at the race, update we will simply give you
the schedule of things that are gonna be taking place
coming up this weekend at The Indianapolis Motor speedway will
begin by talking about what's going to take. Place On,
saturday eleven o'clock in the, morning the gates will, open
and then at one pm it is qualifying for The
expinity cars at The Indianapolis Motor. Speedway at two thirty
(23:39):
five it is qualifying for The cup. Cars that will
take place until three thirty and then at four point
thirty it is The Pins oil two point fifty taking,
place followed it By sunday at two o'clock it will
be the running of The brickyard four hundred at The
Indianapolis Motor.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Speedway this is beyond the bricks brought to you By
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Speaker 6 (24:10):
Fan this is what it sounded like Seeing oasis live
At Heaton park In, Manchester, england WHICH i had the
pleasure of. Doing you got to turn that up a
little bit, here. Lad you don't look back at anger about. Anything,
(24:38):
really there's nothing to be gained by. That let me tell, You,
mike how it came to be THAT i went to
go See. Oasis and for those that are, Unfamiliar oasis
is A british band that had their peak certainly and
their breakthrough in the early to mid, nineties and at
the time that they came, about they were very controversial
because they had famously or infamously In england said that
(24:59):
they would be bigger than The, beatles And liam And
Noah gallagher two brothers that have a volatile, relationship and,
shortly basically once they hit their zenith in, popularity probably
from ninety five to two, Thousand i'll say it in,
there their relationship was on, again off again and it was,
always you, know, inconsistent and, ultimately sixteen years ago they
(25:20):
broke up and said that's, It we're not performing together.
Anymore for me, PERSONALLY i did WHAT i call a
deep dive on the band after that. Fact so WHEN
i really started listening To oasis a lot and learning
about them and em AND i obviously knew of them
and their peak, popularity BUT i started listening to them
more and listening to the, words and it started just
becoming a reflective thing to me on the time period
(25:41):
in which they were so, big which was a great
period of my, life because the mid twenties are fun
for anybody, Really and THEN i, realized, gosh what a,
shame BECAUSE i really really like this band, now but
they no longer are playing. Together the same can be
said of Another british band THAT i really, like Called The,
verve whose lead singer is a guy by the name
Of Richard. Ashcroft oasis announced about a year ago that
(26:02):
they would be in fact reuniting and that they would
be playing fourteen shows in The United kingdom before coming
over to The United. States the third and fourth of
those shows took place recently In, manchester and my cousin
AND i went over to go see. THEM i saw
them on back to back nights on A friday And
saturday At Heaton, park which is essentially the central park Of, Manchester,
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England manchester being their. Hometown, MIKE i will simply say this,
SPORTS i think in The indianapolis five hundred and The
Indianapolis Motor. Speedway the reason that we go back to
it every, year the reason we talk about, it the
reason we listen to audio of old races and, clips
is because sports allows us to have a spontaneous bliss
amongst the masses and amongst. Strangers it bonds people, together
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even if you are from totally different backgrounds or totally
different neighborhoods or places of. Employment if you root for
the same team as the guy or gal next to
you and a big shot is, made then you have
a connection with that person and with other. Humans music
does the same. Thing and those two concerts to be
there with they said eighty, THOUSAND i would say it
(27:07):
was probably closer to one hundred thousand on each, night
and have people from all areas of the globe there
to see this band and enjoying the same spontaneous, Bliss
and before you know, it you are singing along with
people you've never met, Before you're high fiving guys you've
never seen, before you are arm in arm with people
swaying back and. Forth it truly was a magical weekend
(27:30):
and it was an awesome. Event and it's the kind
of thing THAT i hope that everybody can find the
same kind of spontaneous joy and whatever leisure it is
that they find within their hobbies and their.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Habits, OH i couldn't agree. MORE i think that's.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Right AND i think what you undersold a little bit,
though is the fact of how much venom there was
between The gallagher. BROTHERS i, mean these guys couldn't stand
each other for over a, decade and the fact that
they got back together to do a. CONCERT i mean
that the only thing that would be news is IF
i walked back into the facility in the. INFIELD i,
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mean that's how much contempt there was. There, SO i,
mean this was amazing the fact that The gallagher brothers
got back, together and you're right to have these kind
of communal, activities AND i can't imagine how cool it
would have been to be there with all those, folks
especially in their. HOMETOWN i, mean that has had to
(28:24):
have been absolutely amazing because they're just they're Just they're
one of those bands that you, know, Again Don't Look
back In anger is one of my ten favorite songs
of all, time AND i can't imagine what that would
have been like to hear that, song you.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Know and for that, Matter Richard ashcroft was the opening
act and he Did Bittersweet, symphony which is the verb's
biggest Hit Lucky man In. Sonnet so it was it
was a special evening for. Certain one of the things
that hit me in being, there even though there were
people from all over the, WORLD a lot of the
people THAT i talked to and enjoyed the show with
were From, manchester AND i think they were very proud
(28:59):
and hospitable about having people coming from so far away
to enjoy one of their native products and enjoy it
in their. City that's what allowed, Me, mike to really
grasp what it's like for people that come To, indianapolis
to go to The indianapolis five hundred and have an
appreciation for something that, say you AND i just consider our,
(29:20):
backyard and yet people from all over the world come
to enjoy. It and that CONNECTION i could relate to.
IT i could relate to how those people felt and
what it.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Meant, YEAH i, mean it's just one of those things
THAT i think music touches people in such an interesting.
Way and the, Speedway you're, RIGHT i think that's the same.
Thing the speedway touches people in a, way and it's
one of those things it's almost impossible to, describe, Right
it's hard to explain that to somebody who hasn't been
to The.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Speedway and it.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Also you, know, people it's hard for me to relate
at times to people who don't when music doesn't touch,
them just because you, KNOW i, mean music can overwhelm
me at, times and the same thing when the cars
come down for the start of the five. Hundred if
that doesn't get you, GOING i don't. KNOW i don't
know what that says about people who doesn't it doesn't
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do something for. Them BUT i think you're one hundred percent.
RIGHT i, mean there's definitely a similarity.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
There now similarities As i've, mentioned between and and that.
Weekend by the way THAT i was there was during
the two Step iowa race for The IndyCar. Series when
the schedule came out That IndyCar was going to be
When oasis WAS i, simply you, know said, Hey i'm
going to essentially take a, vacation you, know a couple days,
vacation And Chris, pollock the general manager of the radio
(30:35):
network said totally. Understand and so that's how that came
to be THAT i was not there for The iowa.
Race but it was interesting coming back from the concert
On friday and watching The iowa race For IndyCar On
Sky network which was airing it In Great, britain and
then On saturday or excuse me, sorry The saturday night.
RACE i did, that and then On, sunday When IndyCar
(30:58):
was racing In. IOWA i was actually on the flight
back home and was able Via Wi fi to listen
To Mark, James Michael young and the rest of the
group calling the race on The IndyCar Radio, network which
was very.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
Cool so but my question is, THIS i, mean you
you have a pretty, good pretty good boss there With Chris,
pollack WHO i also, know AND i Like chris a.
Lot the fact that you And Nick yeoman were off
on the same weekend and not there In, IOWA i,
MEAN i was like that that was pretty surprising to me,
BECAUSE i, mean you guys are two of the most
important people on the on the, network and to have
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both you And nick not, THERE i WAS i was
a little surprised that you could both be. OFF i,
mean it's one thing to have one of your key guys,
off but to have both your key guys to your
key guys, OFF i was a little surprised that you
were both not there that.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
WEEK i think it shows the depth of the guys
that we you, know that we all work, with and
the people with men and women that work at the radio,
network and also the. Understanding nick had an opportunity to
call a race In sonoma FOR, prn which works with
The IndyCar network for the brickyard coming. Up so the
marriage and the confluence of those two particular groups the
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reason Why nick was not there AND i was not.
There and so then you, Know alex wolf comes, over
and you know there's a number of The Drake yorke
and others that get involved so well that.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
You have a Great, no you have a great bench
if you, WILL i Mean Joel sebastianelli and all these
other folks that you have come, In Alex, Wolfe like you,
Said Ryan, marine it's a it's a talented group of
folks that you, guys that you guys work.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
With it was a great, weekend no question about.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Now the reason why we brought it up is because
we talked about confluence and you know the similarities Of
oasis and The. Beatles The beatles had a trip to
The Indianapolis Motor speedway and we've mentioned it before but
not really, done AS i, said a deep dive on.
It so guess what that's exactly what we'll do next
when we return To beyond The. Bricks this is beyond the.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
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Speaker 6 (33:08):
Mike thompson inside THE bet three sixty five race Command.
Center here quality supply a tool helping bring you beyond the,
Bricks land and coons putting it all together for us
talking about The beatles and their trip in nineteen sixty
four to The Indianapolis Motor, speedway we've played that up
a little bit by telling you about my trip to
go See. Oasis but The beatles came to our fabulous
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facility back in nineteen sixty, four and there was not
necessarily always the plan that they would stay at sixteenth In,
georgetown but that's in fact where they would lay their
heads while playing at The Indiana Fairgrounds. Coliseum Speedway Historian
Emeritus Donald davidson on why The beatles stayed at The
Indianapolis Motor.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Speedway apparently the groups regularly stayed at The Essex house
downtown and for whatever, reason and in nineteen sixty, four
basically what you had was the big, hotels the big
old established hotels downtown and then the motels on. Forty
but you, know there was no four to sixty five.
(34:08):
YET i think that was just starting to be, built
and so really there wasn't anywhere else to go except
if you went to the downtown. Area well there was
The Holiday, inn or AS i would call, it The
Holiday in across the, street and then The Speedway motel
had opened In march or is Approximately easter of nineteen sixty,
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Three so that's where they decided that The beatles could
go because the general crowd wouldn't figure it.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Out Chuck gunderson is an author that covers The, beatles
and he also gives his version of the decision to
stay at The Indianapolis Motor speedway for The fab.
Speaker 9 (34:47):
Four had The beatles toured to the social media age
and The facebook And twitter, AGE i mean we would
know exactly where they were at all times of the
day and. Night we would have photos of them, everything
and it was spot that they were going to stay
at The Essex. House but that wasn't the. Case brian
or Really Tour management which Was General Artists corporation and
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handled the. Tour they were a talent agency out Of
New York. City they actually booked all the hotels and
things like. That, well they booked The Speedway, motel which you,
know it's great For indie car. Drivers but for The,
beatles it wasn't such a great place because of its.
Layout but The Speedway motel had open corridors and kind
of an open parking lot for fans to really kind
(35:31):
of get in there and try to try to work
their way in to get to see The.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Beatles, MIKE i like this next clip because this is
from a local television station and they're coverage correct of The.
Beatles that's.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
Correct WISH tv actually did a show Called my Or
Our Fare, beatles which ran In september of sixty, four
kind of covering the beatles whole trip To. Indianapolis it's
a really cool show that you can actually find on.
Speaker 10 (35:53):
YouTube in the, morning the remarkably well kept secret began
to leak. Out people whispered that The beatles were houses
the speedy. Motel the, screaming violent crowds of people were
still not. INEVIDENCE a few faithful fans maintained a vigil
outside the police lines in hopes of getting a glimpse
of just one. Beefle the policemen ready for any emergency, Waiting.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Mike, not unlike when you walked through The Indianapolis Motor,
speedway there's always a buzz right about. That so you
can only imagine what it was like when The beatles were,
there and just some of the PROTOCOLS i would imagine
that had to take, place, right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
That's, Right.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
DONALD i actually talked to him about the different protocols
because people were calling the. Switchboard they had a switchboard
there at The speedway, motel and they wanted people obviously
wanted to talk to any member of the fab foard
they could get ahold. Of So donald talked about how
they put some protocols in place to keep that from.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Happening they must have had a little bit of an,
entourage but they didn't have a bunch of roadies like
they do. Now and, HONESTLY i don't know what the
traveling group consisted, of but they did put out a
kind of a red herring that The Essex house was
where they would be, staying and whatever extra people that they,
had that's where they. Stayed and again they didn't have
(37:04):
like thirty forty fifty people and truckloads of equipment and.
Everything it was a very simple setup in those. Days
so they booked the three rooms and a GENTLEMAN i
knew very well Named David cassidy happened to be the
manager of the, motel and he told me all these.
Stories and he said that they booked three rooms And
(37:27):
Brian epstein had, one and then the, boys believe it or,
not doubled up two by two in the other two.
Rooms and he, said we knew that we'd probably be
getting a lot of phone, calls and so the word
was at the, switchboard don't put any calls through unless
(37:48):
because you'll have people with all kinds of excuses and
everything to try and talk to The beatles if they've
either figured that they're there or guests that they're. There
and they said that if it is an official when
it comes and you will be Told liverpool, calling even
if it's from Here, liverpool It's liverpool, calling will be
(38:10):
the parish word that that's an official. Call and put
them all through To Brian. Epstein don't put any into
the other two.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Rooms Jerry baker was a longtime voice of The Indianapolis
Motor speedway radio. Network not only, that but he also
happened to be the familiar voice that introduced The beatles
to the crowd In. Indianapolis one, minute, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
One one put, Second.
Speaker 11 (38:34):
Frank.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Similian the banks are a great.
Speaker 11 (38:36):
CROWD i didn't come up through The Frank sinatra. AGE
i Think frank.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is one of the.
Speaker 11 (38:41):
GREATEST i missed The sinatra. ERA i was right in
the middle of The Elvis chrysli. Era BUT i have
never in my life than anything like you know who
on behalf of all of The State Fair board and
all the good GUYS wifb MAY i.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Present Ringo starr was one of them that, said you know,
What i'm not just going to be cooped up in
(39:20):
the hotel, Room. Mike he decided to actually take his
own little two Of. Indianapolis, correct that's.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Right this story has taken out a bit of a
life of its, own As ringos told several different versions
of this, story but this is one. Version he told
of the story To David, letterman and When David letterman
had his talk, show he.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Must have been at one of.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
THEM i, WAS i was In.
Speaker 12 (39:37):
Indianapolis everybody was in indian and there was a there
was a story after the show's There and you probably
heard this if in every city you attended that you
stayed up all night and drove around town with a police.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Officer, yeah was that true or was that just that's
one of the true stories.
Speaker 12 (39:55):
And Why, indianapolis why a policeman was a friendly.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Policeman it's a let me drive the police, call AND
i said, Yeah and we were driving. Around the funniest
bit that no one else knows is that we would
chase final the cup.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Call is that?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Right and we had to drive up An aliens and
the lights out and hide And i'm hiding with this
coffin an alis so we didn't get.
Speaker 12 (40:16):
COOLED i see that would have been bad if you'd
get a gunned down in An indianapolis alley and some
kind of police.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
SHOOTOUT i don't think of that or the other. Thing
you could have made citizens arrests all.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
NIGHT i could arrested the cup and let me drive his.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Gun Chuck gunderson with more On Ringo's big night on The.
Speaker 9 (40:31):
Town the concert had been, played he just couldn't get to,
sleep so he wandered outside The speedway motel and talked
the troopers into taking him on a tour in their
police cruiser and see some of the sights Of. Indiana
so they dropped by The governor's mansion and they drove
around Downtown indianapolis and then the trooper had a great.
Idea he wanted to take. Them we're un to Take
(40:53):
Ringo star out to his farmhouse outside in the. Country
and they had arrived in the early. Morn warning is
his wife was actually getting the horses ready to be
shown at The Indiana State fair that, day and she
was just looking At ringo, like, well who this guy
that you brought? Home she could care. Less, well one
person really, cared and that was the officer's. Daughter she
(41:15):
was eleven years old at the.
Speaker 6 (41:16):
Time The beatle that was most interested in the tour
of the, speedway because The beatles did take a tour
of the speedway as, well Was George. Harrison Donald. Davidson
on Where George harrison's interest in racing came.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
From Graham hill and then Later Damon hill apparently was
very fond Of And i've always thought That Damon hill
And George harrison looked very. ALIKE i, Mean i'm not
maybe quite to the point of being, brothers but they
could almost be. RELATED i, MEAN i know brothers that
look less the likes than those two. Do but where
(41:51):
his interest in motorsports came, FROM i don't, know except
That british people tend to be interested in motor racing
except that he's it's the only one of the four
THAT i know had an. Interest but it was quite,
extensive and he would go to The British Grand. PRIX
i don't he never came to The indianapolis five hundred
as far AS i, know but he did go To
Long beach. Anyway to my, knowledge he never came to
(42:13):
a five hundred.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
Here, MIKE i know how much you love The. BEATLES
i know how much you loved The Indianapolis Motor. SPEEDWAY
i feel like we could do an entire two hours
on nothing But beatles and.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Ims there's no question about. That we could easily do
two to four hours on both of those.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
THINGS i will tell you that during my TRIP i
also went to The Cavern club In liverpool where The
beatles played two hundred ninety two, times and it was,
very very, cool but not as cool as The Indianapolis Motor.
Speedway but what Is that's why we talk about it
each and every night anytime that there's a race taking
place at The Indianapolismoter speedway on this program that we
Call beyond The. Bricks we thank you for listening to it,
tonight so much. Fun we'll do it again tomorrow For
(42:47):
Landing coons And Mike. Thompson I'm Jake. Querry we will
talk to you tomorrow
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