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The Washington Commanders beat the Los Angeles Chargers in week 5 of the 2025 NFL season in a lopsided 27-10 victory. Future Hall of Famer London Fletcher and Bram Weinstein are joined by Logan Paulsen to breakdown Jayden Daniels triumphant return, the fast and violent defensive performance, and how Jacory "Bill" Croskey-Merritt is setting rookie running back records in D.C.!

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coming up on the Booth Review. Jaden was back and
the defense really rebounded in La.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
And the commanders had a party in California.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Yeah, and the big Uglies have never looked so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
And we will celebrate Bill's big day on the Booth
Review next. Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth
Review podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with London Fletcher. We are
brought to you by a Microsoft Surface Co Pilot plus PC.
I am tired, happy, London, but tired.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Off a red eye getting back from the West Coast.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Uh. Yeah, Brian, I can say I am tired, and
I typically have no trouble sleeping on a plane. And
I was telling you like I fall asleep on a
on a flight from Charlotte to to DC in a heartbeat,
like nothing. But I didn't. I didn't sleep as as
like I normally would on a plane right from from

(00:58):
LA to Charlotte. And I'm disappointed. I probably slept maybe
forty five minutes. It just wasn't my normal. I'm filling
it right now too.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's because you admitted there's nothing like a California party yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
The California knows how to party and the words that
doctor Dre and Tupac California knows how to party. And
it was a party. It didn't start off that way,
but oh we were Jade and Deebo. They were dancing,
doing their little dance, celebrating it. It was a good time.
I got a chance to play some couple of great

(01:38):
golf courses out there, had great meals. I know you.
I know you were able to enjoy some family out
there as well.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, it's a good weekend all around. I agree with you.
The start was interesting, but then at some point the
script was flipped for me. I want to do some
big picture stuff, and we'll kind of go through everything,
but I want to do some big picture stuff. This
season may have turned on Kwan Martin's forced fumble. To me,
it's ten to nothing. They'd been at one point out

(02:09):
gained one, twenty nine to five. The Chargers were driving,
they were, you know, had a completion to Quentin Johnston
in I don't know a suwhere twenty yard line around
the red zone. That's a minimum, Yeah, it's it's a minimum.
Three points. Dicker doesn't miss anything, so that's a minimum.
It's thirteen nothing. If not seventeen nothing. Kwan makes this play,

(02:32):
they get the recovery of the fumble, and everything seemed
to change then. So like if there was ever a
ball as Life moment, we had it yesterday in that spot.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah. Absolutely, And it was a looking at that game
and the first third down where Herbert he scrambles with
a forty one yards, You're like, oh my goodness, here
here we go again. And I will say this, the
defense had gotten off the field on the third down,
and then on the field goal attempt, you know, had

(03:06):
the off side and I think it was Mikey who
ended up jumping off sides and gay the Cardinals, I
mean charge of New Life, and they got the first
down and end up scoring a touchdown. Offense went three
and out, charge the score again go up ten to nothing.
I think our offense went five plays and out. So

(03:27):
offense got off to a shaky start and looked a
little rusty. Jaydon looked a little rusty just to kind
of kind of start the game. And defensively we had
a couple of little miscues or whatever. And as you
mentioned that that Kwan Martin forced fumble, it gave us
energy because now the offense takes that turnover and put

(03:52):
I think they're going to seventy four. It gets us
back in the game. If we go down thirteen, we
get our seventeen. Energy is still in the Chargers favor
and you know we still can overcome that. But that
turnover definitely changed the way the game went, and I

(04:13):
think it gave life to the defense to say, Okay,
we know we can make some turnovers against this team too.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, so they score off that drive. There were just
a number of just key, huge moments. This was very
reminiscent of last year when all of these in these
big moments, needed plays both sides of the ball were happening,
and the special teams has been a weapon for them.
And they caught a break at the end of the
half where they had a running into the kicker situation

(04:42):
with Trussway punting out of the back of his end zone,
which negated what would have been a punt return touchdown
that got called back. Gives them life at their own
it's just at the seventeen yard line and they dial
up a deep shot to Luke McCaffrey And this was
for me, the moment that we saw Jayden back as
Jaden like he was kind of as you said, he

(05:04):
was kind of getting the sea legs back. He was
getting his feelback. The offense wasn't really cooking at this point.
They had scored once. The two minute drive, which they
were amazing at a year ago, stalled very quickly deep
in their own end. They were given a second chance,
and that throw was reminiscent of the clutch plays that
they had made a year ago.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And the fact that Jayden went through. I want to
say Luke might have been his second read on that play.
He wasn't. He wasn't then primary, but then Jaden saw,
Okay got Luke one on one on a post route.
I screw it like he used to be, like with
the whole old Heidekey, screw it. Terry's down there, like uh,

(05:49):
Jaden was like screwing Luke's down there and threw it.
And that was that catch by Luke that was on
a difficulty level man maybe a nine, possibly a him
to be able to track that ball, make that catch,
not let the ball cause a completion, and just Luke's

(06:10):
confidence the last couple of weeks scoring a touchdowns and
back to back weeks, I want to gets the raiters
want to getst the Falcons having a nice game receiving
that reception yesterday, but also in the retiring game, he's uh,
you can definitely see him starting to come into his
own as a football player.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it was interesting. I talked to Dan Quinn on
Saturday in LA when we were getting set for the game,
and you know, they've had this rash of injuries, specifically
at the receiver position. They were missing people in training camp.
They were asking Luke McCaffrey Jalen Lane to do a
lot more than I think they probably intended, at least initially,
and then obviously by necessity, they've had to play a
lot more. And what he told me, you know, on Saturday,

(06:51):
was what we're learning about He didn't say anybody in particular,
but that he said, what we're learning about certain people
is we now know we can trust them. And I
think he kind of falls in this category. Like you
knew that he's going to put in the work. You
knew that he's a willing participant in every role that
you possibly give him. He's been because of the injuries
to wide receiver Deebo Samuel's not returning kicks. He will

(07:11):
again at some point this year. But it's not because
I think they're trying to take some of the load
off of him, because they knew they're going to lean
on him offensively. What does McCaffrey do forty plus yard
return this past week, fifty plus yard return the week before,
touchdowns in the previous two games, and the play on
the catch that allowed them to be tied at halftime.
Had they had a little more time, I think they

(07:32):
were steam rolling. They would have scored, but they ran
out of time. They kicked the field goal in a
game where they were dominated through the first quarter plus.
I think the time of possession was something like members
twelve and a half to two and a half something
like that. Out gained one twenty nine to five. To
look up on the scoreboard and it be ten to ten.
They were getting contributions from people like Luke McCaffrey that

(07:53):
made that happen for them.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh, absolutely absolutely, And that's what you need. You have
to have guys that you don't normally get contribution for
to a certain level. And I look at it like this.
When you you asked, you mentioned DQ mentioning about being
able to trust guys or find out they can trust guys.

(08:16):
It's one thing to do it in practice, it's another
thing to do and when the lights come on. Some
guys are great practice players, like they're they're they're Pro
Bowl players in practice, all pro players in practice, but
for some reason or one reason or another, it doesn't
translate to the game or transferred to the games. And

(08:38):
Jalen Lane is making plays on the football field. Luke
McCaffrey's making plays. Chris Paul is another guy. We don't
talk about him because he's offensive line offensive lineman. He's
been a guy who's making a lot of plays. Jamy Reeves,
he's been asked to do more as a safety. Now

(08:58):
he's out there making plays. So it is refreshing to
see these guys play bigger roles and contribute and wins.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
There were two other big moments that I want to
talk about, like flipping the script here where they needed
something to happen. They had the fumble from Bill. They're
up twenty to ten. They had been dominating really from
the early part of the second quarter on. They built
a ten point lead. They were cruising into making it
a potentially a three score lead. The way that they

(09:31):
were walking down the field, Bill as the fumble, Chargers
make a couple of nice plays on third down to
continue a drive that took them a long time to
get on a short field down into the red zone,
first and goal at the one, goes backwards with a
couple of nice defensive plays and then a tip interception
at the goal line. Mike Sandrastill, that to me like
they sealed it with the drive that came next. But

(09:53):
that again in a key clutch moment, we saw the
defense come through for them.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, absolutely, you're correcting. I'm going back and just remembering
that plane. There was a run by Vital that Kwan
made a touchdown saving tackle at the two yard line.
It set uh, It set the Chargers up first and goal.

(10:23):
I think they were at the one, first and goal
at the two or something like that. But for Kwan
to make that tackle, it was a touchdown saving tackle.
So that was another big play that Kwan made. And
I talk a lot about defending every blade of grass
their first and goal inside the two yard line, inside
your two yard line, and you are able to keep

(10:46):
them out of your end zone. Get the tip and
the Mikey Mikey Sandmer still with another interception, the ball
just finds this guy. Man. When it comes to interceptions,
the ball finds a buck, big defensive out and great
great tackle by Kwan to keep out of the end zone.

(11:08):
That's not going to be talked about a lot. I'm
sure to be talked about in their meeting room. From
a defense standpoint, Hey, Kwand you made a great tackle
right here keeping him out of the end zone to
give us out another opportunity to defend our end zone.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
The other you know, the other big moment I want
to talk it's really a moment. It's they just didn't
give the Chargers the ball back by going ninety nine yards,
which I'll talk about in a minute, But since we're
talking about the defense. This was a huge bounce back
game Joe Witt talked about in his press conference leading
up to the game. Players were hearing some of the noise,
They were hearing some of the things. There was not
a lot of turnovers that were generated. It was one

(11:45):
through the first month. He had talked about how social
media changed everything, that he's an older man, he doesn't
listen to it, but they're listening to it. They described
a defense by which he said his line was, I
don't want anybody wearing capes anymore, because he said Atlanta
game where they were not pleased with. What happened was
that the players were it was coming from a good place,

(12:06):
that they wanted to make plays, that they were really
trying to go above and beyond and make plays, but
they were guessing. And because they were guessing, they were
asking the players, Hey, play within the context of our defense.
Don't take chances. It's going to come to us. You'll see.
And I think you saw that yesterday. This was a
highly aggressive group. There was a lot less of the

(12:29):
breakdowns that we had seen in previous weeks, and so
the coaching got through and the players came through again. Yeah,
it was a slow start, but for the final three
quarters they were dominant against that offense.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yesterday they absolutely were. They absolutely were dominant. And what
I did, what I saw was the change in philosophy,
the coaching change. Early in that ball game, especially only
a lot of the third dollars, we were going man
and man against the Chargers and bringing pressure. The first
run that Herbert was able to get the forty one

(13:01):
yard it was a five man pressure. He was able
to find increase in the defense in terms of a
pass rush lanes. They got a little bit too wide.
There wasn't there wasn't balanced there, his man and man
on the back end. Everybody's covered guys, and so he
was able to run forty one yards earlier. There was

(13:22):
another play on the twenty nine yard pass that I
think was keenan Allen have another man of man situation.
So they were making plays against the man of man.
I said it on the broadcast, I think we needed
to go play more zone defense, get eyes on the quarterback,
let the pass rush, let the four man rush get

(13:43):
after this offensive line that struggled in pass pro. Let's
just let this off. Let's let our defense alignment rush,
get more vision on the quarterback, force justin Herbert to
have to go through his progressions. Give our defensive line
just a a second more to get to the pet
get to Herbert. And that's what they ended up doing.

(14:05):
They played a lot more zoned, I want to say,
after the first two series, and they were able to.
They ended the game with five sacks, four on Herbert,
one on a last um on last and that was
I think the biggest adjustment that they made defensively. They
played a lot more zone, a lot more vision on
the quarterback. So now if Herbert did decide to scramble,

(14:28):
you got guys ready to rally and make a tackle.
Maybe you present it's going to be a five yard
game instead of a forty yard game because you got
more guys ready, and you got guys ready to make interceptions,
make plays, things like that. So I thought it was
a great adjustment by the defensive coaching staff to go
to Morrison zone coverage.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
They ended up listen, they caught a break with how
many injuries that the Chargers had on their offensive line
going in. We didn't know if Mikai Beckton was going
to play. We knew Joe Walt would be out, and
so we walked into the stadium not knowing who their
left tackle was going to be, whether it was going
to be the guy who had played right guard was
going to have to move to left tackle, or if
Becton was in it would be a different backup tackle,

(15:09):
and ended up being deculous. So ended up playing for them.
At one point in the middle of it, this another
third tackle. Pipkins goes out, Beckton went out for a
period of time, they had an advantage, but they took
advantage of it and it turned into a sieve. Deron
Pain had big moments. Javon Kinlaw blew up four to

(15:30):
five different plays. There was one where a running back
spun back into him and he picked them up like
at the Summer Slam and threw him down on the turf.
Von Miller terrorized that team for years as a Bronco.
At a one and a half sacks, was blowing up plays.
George Armstrong, who's just had an outstanding camp into the
early part of the season, constantly in the backfield. So
it was an advantageous situation with how many injuries, but

(15:53):
they took advantage of it. So I want to give
him credit for that.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, the defensive line dominated and Brown don't rode a
great story with some details. If we don't care, these
are professional football players. They are professional football players, and
when when you step between the lines, nobody cares whether
you were the starter or the backup. The expectations remained

(16:17):
the same. Now I will say this, Doris Armstrong, he
had the two sacks, but he also had he drew
a critical holding penalty when the Chargers had that. I
don't know if it was a big completion or a
big run. That Herbert had, but his holding penalty that
he forced, so it doesn't go down as a sack.

(16:38):
But the impact that he had you mentioned Kin law
Man call him the great Waller kin Law because a
couple of those times when he those as you mentioned,
some of those running backs ran into him and it
was over with the Rod Payne. The best player that
he did that I saw him make was on the
screen pass. We're bringing the pressure, we're bringing the blitz.

(17:03):
The Ron feels that it's a screen and he goes
out and makes a tackle on h might have been
half that I can't remember which back it was for
maybe about a six yard loss. But to make that
play in that situation though, where withal that the Ron
had on that situation, the defensive line they dominated Von

(17:25):
von Miller, he definitely he turned back to tome the
clock and was able to get some pressure and come
away with a second and a half.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
You know, Logan talks to Dan Quinn before the game
for our broadcast and one of the things that came
out of his mouth yesterday was something that he's preached
a lot of and they keep talking about ball his life.
That happened, and he also talks about speed and violence.
You're going to feel our speed and violence, and I
think we saw that yesterday. And this goes back to
I think a little bit of I think they heard
the noise about what was being said about them collectively

(17:55):
as a group, they were the far more physical team
by far. We mentioned Kwan earlier with the big hit
to kind of flip the game, flip the script initially
by hitting Johnston causing the fumble that got that. Marshaun
Lattimore was extraordinarily physical yesterday in that game on the
edges and in run support, and Mike Sandris still again
very physical and to your point, the ball just kind

(18:16):
of finds him. He's like a magnet for it right place,
right time, and he's there and the ball ends up
in his hands. I thought this was a big bounce
back game for the secondary those players, namely physicality really
paid off for them yesterday.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I talked about We talked about this
a lot too. When you're trying to press and make
plays because earlier, when you going to you're in week
four and you haven't had a takeaway. A defense that
emphasizes takeaways, you're going to try to force the issue.

(18:50):
You want to get an interception, you want to create turnovers,
and what it was come by you just doing it.
Let the defense allow get pressure on the quarterback, tips overthrows,
or just being a discipin playing a discipline of defense,
and they just happened to come your way. And that's
what happened yesterday. A couple of turnovers. Tip ball Mike,

(19:13):
he gets interception Kuhd playing physical, playing the whole safety
the way it's supposed to be played, shoulder to the
on the football forst fumble, you got guys running to
the football interception and that's that's how you that's how
the turnovers happened when you played sound discipline defense. As
you mentioned, I thought my Shawn Lattimore, his very first

(19:35):
tackle was against the happen where he has as a
as a as a corner. I have to have not
too many people were tackling him going into that game,
especially corners physical tackle. I thought Bobby Wagner also played
extremely physical in that game, and he was under attacked

(19:57):
by a lot of people, fans, media, Hey, he's he
shouldn't be on the field as much as he is.
Bobby had a great game and I felt that he
was going to have that great game. Because one thing
about football players, we don't need to hear the noise.
We know when we don't don't play up to our
own expectations, our expectation is gonna be way higher than

(20:20):
anybody else have for us. So when we when we
give up a play or we we don't have the
type of game that we typically used to accustom to having,
were gon we're gonna we're fueling and right falling at
the mouth and can't wait to get out there and
playing playing another game. And when Bobby was out there
making those plays and physical tackles, it was it was

(20:43):
exactly what I expected from him.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, Bobby took too much heat last week, but John
Robinson is gonna have days on everybody. He might be
the best running back in the NFL. And they executed
a couple of plays perfectly and there isn't anybody who
can cover him. So I thought he took way too
much heat last week. And what I liked about this
matchup going in yesterday was nobody has bajon Robinson or

(21:09):
a couple of teams do. But Hampton is a very
good looking rookie. But like at this point he is
not a prolific out of the backfield pass catcher. This
team also doesn't come in with a prolific athletic pass
catching tight end. These are the two positions that Washington's
had some trouble with this year, even dating back a

(21:30):
little bit the last year. It's really why I loved
this matchup yesterday. The downfield receiving threat. Yes, they've given
up some big plays that has been kind of mistaken
for the where they've been caught in some spots. This
is why I love this matchup history and I agree
with you. It was great to see Bobby have the
game that he had. It was so crazy what I

(21:51):
was hearing about him. I'm sitting there going, this guy's
a Hall of Fame player like what he had, Like
you know, one one bad moment in one bad game,
and all of a sudden, you're talking about him that way.
I was. I was glad for him that it bounced back,
but the whole unit did too.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
But I listen, I knew, I knew. I just I
just knew what it was. How he was going to play, man,
I just I just knew how he was going to play.
And as you mentioned, and the week before I guess
the Raiders. Everybody was loving him. He had two sacks
in that game. I don't know how many tackles he had.

(22:28):
I'm sure it's probably coach to double digits if it wasn't. So,
I mean, it's just they call fans for a reason,
and we love them, we love the support. But sometimes
you just got a kind of pump your breaks and say, hey,
they had a nice they had a nice play design
and they got us on that one. Dick Leo, who
I've talked about, one of the greatest defensive No, he's

(22:51):
the greatest defensive mine I've ever been around. And there's
he had. He used to tell us, he said, man,
he was. He came over to Buffalo for one season.
It was sister head coach over the defense, Jerry Gray,
who was the defensive coordinator. But Dick Bow used to
he put in all the fire zones and he would

(23:11):
talk talk about certain things. He said, Man, sometimes you
get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you. So
but it just happened. That's football. They all make plays too,
and it happens. But at the end of the day,
we just got to get them more than more times
than they get us.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, I mean, and the big to the biggest difference
between the week before and a week later was to
your point about the games or the touchdown saving tackle
that Kwan made and then the stand they made at
the one yard line. They ended up getting the interception
which essentially ended the game, you know, which led to
the ninety nine yard drive that they had the week before,
the execution that design, the execution on the Bajon play.

(23:53):
I tip your cap to them, like they made an
incredible play with an elite player. The thing that got
me was Jeremy Reeves printed fifty yards and stopped the
touchdown from happening. But Atlanta scored on the next play anyway,
And on this drive where the Chargers yesterday converted a
couple of decently long third downs to keep a drive alive.

(24:14):
Games now still in the balance, especially if they score
a touchdown. It's only twenty to ten. They're about to
score a touchdown, and this is where the defense stands
up and makes the plays to get off of the field.
Like that, to me was the difference between the Falcons
game to the Chargers game. It wasn't that the Falcons
hit a couple of big plays. It's that when they
let a couple of big plays happen, the defense stood

(24:35):
up and made plays collectively to get each other's back.
That's what I loved really about the defensive effort yesterday.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, great defensive effort. And it was
after the Martin touchdown save and tackle, nice coverage in
the in the reds all. But also then there was
a brun play. We think tin Law got penetrat shim
forced to run back. He didn't initially get the tackle,

(25:03):
end I think end up getting in on it. I
can't remember who made the tackle, bup, just putting them
in a situation where now was a negative yardist run play.
So that's that's where you're said, hey, we're gonna bow
our next and we're going to keep them out of
our end zone. They haven't cost that goal on yet.
That defend every blade of grass. And these are moments that,

(25:23):
as you mentioned, you talk about changing the season around.
You look back and say, hey, that playing that fumble
that that Qud caused in LA to get us get
us going. And then the touchdown saving tackle by Kud again,
and then it's the Mikey Sammon still interception off of

(25:44):
tip passed by by Johnny Newton. So all those are
moments that happened offensively that Jade and to Luke McCaffrey.
So these are moments that happened and where where you
where you gain confidence because you've done these things before.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yeah, this is it's so interesting, like how much of
all the storylines have not been centered around Jaden. You know,
through all of this in year two, you would have
thought that he kind of would have been the centerpiece
storyline and over and over and over from the offseason
to who they signed, to the expectations that were different.
It was never centered around whether he's going to be

(26:20):
great or not. And yesterday it was a slow start
for him too, and then all of a sudden, it
was like he got a sea legs back all of
a sudden, and then we started to see the moments
that make him different. He had a couple of runs,
he was seeing it. He took the shot on Luke,
that's a perfect throw that he made the throw at

(26:41):
the end of the game to debo on you know,
I guess you could call that an aggressive call. But
to sit there and see a video of him practicing
the touchdown celebration that they're going to do before he
actually throws the pass on a fourth and seven from
the eight. That's the moxie gum shin instincts of Jaden

(27:01):
Daniels that we grew accustomed to a year ago.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, And he was having fun. You
can see him starting to have fun. He was out
there making making plays, running, running with his legs, and
you saw the burst on some of those runs where
he did he didn't. He didn't look like he lost
any speed. You saw us burst and and just going

(27:25):
out there executing the office and being comfortable. I thought
the offense is lined did a great job with providing protection.
They only uh, he only got sacked the one time
that was right right in that first that initial two
minute drive. But uh, other than that, man, it was
good to see him really starting to make some nice throws.

(27:45):
A couple not only to throw for the touchdown to Debo,
there was another I want to say it was a
third down throw where he put the ball right way
and needed to be Deebo shoulder showed great heads and
catching another pass. But overall, I think Jaden will be
happy and is happy with the way he ended up playing.

(28:06):
Probably the last three quarters in that ball game.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, fifteen to twenty six, two thirty one through the air,
touchdown pass late, thirty nine rush yards by virtue of
going over twenty four yesterday, he went over one thousand
for his career. He's the first player in NFL history
with four thousand plus passing yards and one thousand plus
rushing yards in the first twenty games that he played.
Of course, he missed the last two, so there's been
more games in his career, but he didn't play in

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the last two. But that is better than Cam Newton,
better than Lamar Jackson, better than Michael Vick, better than
Pat Mahomes for that matter, who does run a lot
better than Josh Allen fastest in his first twenty games.
He's coming off what I believe was the best rookie
season I've ever seen of any quarterback ever, and now
he's got other He's setting records again as he continues

(28:52):
to kind of reset how we view quarterback in this
town and how the league looks at it.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, when you mentioned that stat and I started to think,
I'm like, the first thing got first name. I thought
was like, man, Lamar Jackson didn't do it, And I
guess you said that it took twenty one games. Those
twenty one he beat him by a game for that. Yea,
And man Michael Vick was a twenty one for both
of those guys.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Something around there. Yeah, Cam Newton was probably right on
the custom of that as well.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, so that's that's to be to accomplish that as
the fastest ever in NFL history when there's been a
lot of dual threat quarterbacks if you uh, if you
you know, for I guess, lack of a better word
or way to describe guys that that can throw an
a running at it at a at an efficient level, impressive.

(29:40):
I mean, that's that's what makes them special.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, it was nice to have him back. All right,
let's talk about the offense. Let's bring in Logan Pulse
in here to bring to start talking about what the
offense did yesterday as we bring in Pulsing from the Pine. First,
just Logan on Jayden, You know, one, what did you
expect He's wearing a knee brace, he missed a couple
of weeks and you knew the Chargers brought in a
top five pass defense, top three scoring defense. What did

(30:04):
you expect from him? Yesterday.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, first off, guys, I got to say that I'm
I'm I'm here at the Big Bear AI Command Center studio.
You guys are at home. I'm here working, you know,
in the Big Bear Command Center as and when you
guys come back, I get my you know, Microsoft Surface
COPIL plus PC. You guys might get one of these
two if you ever come into work.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I know we're all tired after the flight and I'm
here grinding, man, So I just want to let that
let you know. Okay, but with regards to Jade.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Man, they live in a closet there, so like that's
different than us. We live in homes like normal people.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
I actually I'm married, I have kids. I used to
live in a closet. Now I actually have a home
and have responsibilities.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So yeah, at some point, Logan, you got to share
that story about when you was in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, I'll have to share that.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
The roommate situation, I mean the housing situation.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Housing situation. You know, I'm a grinder and I and
I picked living situations that reflect my personality. So I
just want to bring that up to everybody. I got
a video for you, Fletch. I'll send it to you
about that specifically anyway. So with regards to Jayden, I
think you guys hit a lot of the major talking
points at the beginning. I think he came out a
little slow. I actually felt like the Chargers played a

(31:13):
little bit more man coverage early and I felt like,
you know, when you watched all their film in the
previous games, they were kind of a zone, every team man.
In certain situations, you could tell the plan was a
little bit more man heavy, which makes sense again, like
there's with Terry being out, with Noel Brown being out,
like teams are going to play more aggressively on the perimeter.
I think you saw that, and I think it I
don't want to say it surprised him, but like it

(31:33):
definitely surprised the offense, let's say, because there's times where
you know, like early on, where he's holding the football
and actually in the in the moment on the sideline,
I was like, man, like, he looks a little bit rattle.
He's not making good decisions. But I just buzzed the
film and it's like people are covered, and so you
don't want him to You want to be protecting the football,
be smart with the football and then as the game
went they kind of gotten more of the zone structures,
the play calls changed, the protection really improved. So I

(31:56):
think it really like Jaden's production got better as the
game went on, no doubt, But I think the team
played better. I think the play calls were more efficient,
they got an offensive rhythm, and I think that maybe
the number one difference between those first nine plays where
they kind of went three and out, three and out,
three and out and the rest of the game is
the pass protection. And it's not just guys winning one
on ones. It's how Cliff called the plays in terms

(32:19):
of chip help, in terms of you know, play action.
There was a lot of things that went into that,
and I think you saw it like the Canary and
the coal mine, so to speak. Was Jaden Daniels production,
you know what I'm saying. The offense played better, and
then Jayden Daniels was more productive. And again I'm not
trying to take anything away from Jayden in terms of
visibility to make plays, but I think it was more.
It was a more collective effort than I think a

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lot of people, at least I thought initially.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, I think it's a second week in a row,
that it was. It wasn't profiled because of the way
they lost in Atlanta, But I thought the offensive line
has really come around collectively here. Chris Paul has been
a very physical addition for them, and I think, like
we're not calling Josh Connerly's name out very much because
he is improving week to week to week. He got

(33:06):
a murderer's row those first three weeks of Pro Bowl
to all pro level pass rushers that he had to
go up against to get. You know, welcome to his
NFL moments with Micah Parsons, Max Crosby, Brian Birds, cave
On Tibodaux. Take your choice of Abdul Carter of the
players the Giants are going to bring in. This is
a different matchup obviously, but you can feel his physicality,
his athleticism, and I agree with you Logan, like, just

(33:29):
collectively it was underrated in the Atlanta game because of
the way they lost, because of how many points they
gave up for what forgot that they scored twenty seven points. Anyway,
with all of the different, you know, different parts that
were out there, I thought yesterday it was really on display.
They really controlled the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah, and I'm really glad you brought that up because
I just went back this morning and watched all of
Bill Krosskey Merits runs and Bill had a great game,
over one hundred yards rushing a bunch of all purpose yards.
But I think when you go back and you watch,
the offensive line deserves a ton of credit. There's times,
especially early on in the first you know, three quarters,
where he's not getting touched until he's five, six, seven
yards down the field. And to me, that's well executed

(34:07):
run scheme. You're talking about that counter, that counter O F. Fletch,
you know where the fullback's coming around, and the double
team that first. So like the way the counter works
because you're getting a kickout by the guard and then
you're leading with the full back or the you know,
if it's counter tray, you're leading with the tackle back
up there right. The first double team in that sequence

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has to be excellent, and I will say Laramie Tunsil,
Chris Paul excellent double team, Wiley connorly when they sink
that thing, nobody's making the tackle man. Their ability to
create movement on those is really tremendous. For them to
stay square and just drive dudes off the ball is
really fantastic, and so they deserve a ton of credit. Man,

(34:48):
they deserve a ton of credit. And I think the
other thing too, is like I think it feels this
is really good coaching, and I want to give them
a shout.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Out here real quick.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Is it feels very nuanced and diverse and like, oh
my god, shook at all these runs and how they
get they're running the same probably four runs. But the
window dressing they put on it is the thing that
gets the defense all cooked up. Right. So you talk
about that one play where Bill Krossky Merrit becomes a
quarterback and they act like they're running his own read.
It's just countertray. It that's all it is. And then

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the linebackers run out of there and then they hit
the look they want and then it's like, oh, we're
gonna get in. We're gonna get in thirteen personnel. We're
gonna get in twelve personnel. We're gonna run. We actually
ran a counter tray with Luke McCaffrey as the second puller,
so it's like a you know, a counter you know, oh,
wide receiver whatever we want to call that, right, So
they they're just running the same stuff, and they're executing

(35:37):
at a high level. And I think obviously Bill adds
like there, I don't want to take away from his production,
because like there's that play where Derwin James kind of
grabs him around the neck and he breaks out of
that tackle and then runs for twenty five yards. So
he's he's adding his own special kind of magic. But
I'd say of his fifteen to sixteen carries, of his
fifteen carries, I'd say twelve of them were immaculately blocked

(35:58):
and really like even on the red zone stuff like
running kind of this bounce play where they pull the
center guard or they pull both guards to the perimeter,
and Chris Paul's ability to feel the wrong arm close
that off. And I think it actually might have been
the call, you know, to say, hey, we're running this pinpool,
We're gonna wrong on this and I'm gonna bounce it
to the perimeter. Just really well blocked down and down out.
And then couple that with the protection and how that

(36:19):
helped jayde Daniels, I think that group deserves a ton
of credit.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Hey, Logan office line was great. I'm surprised though at
no point did you mention the tighty.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Is Oh, that's my bad, dude. Yeah, I'm trying to
give I'm trying to give everyone their flowers, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, Bates. Bates has had some great blocks on those
double teams, down blocks. Ben sent it. There was one
block on one of the counters where he just destroyed
I don't know if it's a safety line back, I
mean he destroyed somebody.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Well, I'm really glad you. I'm really glad you brought
up the John Bates thing because again, first combination, they
had who's number forty five brand what's his name? The
outside linebacker for them, Yeah, from USC. He's in like
a five technique, so he's right in between the guard
and the tight end. And they just were like, we're
checking IDs, bro, you're under twenty one. Let's get out
this club real quick. And they planted him at the

(37:13):
linebacker's feet, and like, I don't care like run schemes, like,
if you are able to create that kind of vertical
and horizontal displacement, you're in a great spot. And Ben
Sinnet man, like, I know he's not catching a lot
of footballs, but he is snappy in the run game. Man,
you see all of those explosive measurements you saw from
him to the combine. You see it fully on display,
like at the second level, specifically his ability to uncoil

(37:34):
with good timing and great kind of rolling of the hips,
like he's becoming a ballplayer. And so I just think
coaching deserves a lot of credit. The execution deserves a
lot of credit. And I think you see the production
that comes off of when that kind of creates a
perfect storm, perfect cyclone of offensive production.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I love the role that Senate's walked into. It feels
like he's a hunter now they got him on the move.
He's able to kind of locate the prey and get
in the way of it. And you know, I think
like it's just you know, I think for him and Luke,
both of them, I think we were kind of waiting
and seeing what are their roles going to emerge into

(38:12):
this year. With Luke, you knew there was going to
be a heavy special teams role for him on all
coverage units and potentially in return units, and he's turned
out to do a very good job there. He's been
forced into other receiver roles because of all the different
injuries and other situations that were going on throughout the
summer and now into the season, and he seems to
be kind of growing into this. And with Senate, I
think we were asking, like what is his role on

(38:33):
the team, you know, where where does he fit in?
And I think you're seeing it now week to week
to week. It's it's been really great to watch.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, And I think the thing the main thing to
me with those two guys specifically is like they are
they're not featured in the offense. So it's like Deebo
Samuels gets featured touches, right, they are in the offense
and then when the play comes to them, they're executing
and people say, oh, that doesn't sound like it's a
good thing. But as Fletch can attest to, like that's
how you get featured touches is when you're in the

(39:01):
context of the offense. So for example, in that long
completion of Luke that fifty yard bomb, like they're trying
to just run sale so like zach Ertz is running
kind of his like inside stem corner rout, they're running
the post over top. They get that quarter's coverage and
the quarter safety cuts the Saale route and Luke's open,
and so Luke doesn't have great separation, but that's where
the ball should go if the safety plays that way.

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And then Jayden Daniels has the confidence to put the
ball out there and it's like, man, that's a tight coverage.
He's gonna make the play. And how many times fletching
your career, have you seen a young receiver get that
moment and then botch it and then they don't make
the play, And it's like, get that guy out of here, right.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, because their opportunities are going to be so
far and few in between. And as you mentioned, like
whenever when you excel in them small things, they're gonna
get started to get put more on your plate and
give you a give you more and more, Like Okay,
let's let's design something for Luke so and then his
let's reward send it for all his Let's let's get

(40:00):
him on a little leak out or something.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
One thousand percent. So I think that's where I'd say,
like it's great to see them. And again that catch
by Luke, that is a tremendous catch when you go
back and watch it, like it's away from his body,
the wherewithal to get the hand tucked underneath the football,
like you know, it's it's a great play. And then
the senate stuff. So I think it's awesome that they're
finding these these moments in the offense to execute. And
again like this is this is the this is the

(40:25):
first step, right, it's you got to maybe the second step.
You got to see it in practice, you see it
in the game. And then all of a sudden, it's like, hey,
maybe we can get Luke on you know, a route
that Terry would normally get, or we can isolate him
and he can run this go ball and we can
trust him to win. And or Senate, now we can
run that Like you're talking about that leak in the
red zone that Zach got in Green Bay, and now
maybe Ben's earned that opportunity and Zach can be the decoy.

(40:45):
So I just think that's this is all good for
a team that has playoff, Super Bowl aspirations. Cultivating this
young depth early in the season I think is immaculate
and I think it's going to pay dividends down the road.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, and on the Luke catch too, Like that's a
really unusual venue. It's it's times Square in the middle
of the field there, like there was a million times
that things are happening. You get distracted so quickly that
they're there their replay or whatever their screens. It's like
it's wild in there. So it's cool though, right, usual environment.
It's an usual environment to make a catch like that too, honestly.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
But I mean, like, first off, how awesome was that stadium?
And every everybody from the ownership group's going around saying, oh,
we're getting all this information, And I was like, man,
if the stadium looks anything like this, we're going to
be doing all right. Like it's a cool spot to
play some football games, you know, a fletch. I mean,
I don't know, it's maybe I'm wrong, but you've seen
a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I love it. I thought it was awesome. Brah, Have
you got something against top Square?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, seriously, bra I had nobody gets square.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I'm just saying, if when the ball is dropping on
New Year's you might not see it because of all
the screens around you. So like, now shrink that into
a tiny little piece of leather and guess what, you know,
you might have a hard time catching the ball. All right,
let me go back to Bill week by week by weeks.
He's like growing into this, you know, explosive playmaker from

(42:07):
the position. He plays more physical than I think I
expected but didn't know. He gets skinny. He admits that
he sees things and just takes off and uses his instincts.
And London, you were talking about this on the air
and afterwards as well. For someone his age who also
didn't play almost at all the year before. He's got

(42:30):
a level of patience when he runs the ball that
is really really unusual.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yes he does. And I told him, I told you
A guy that I can remember having that type of
patience that I win against was a Ladanian Tomlinson when
he was a rookie, and I was like, man, I'm
just so I'm used to rookies running backs just going
on thousand miles per hour, not letting their blocks up

(42:58):
set up, and just wanted to hit the hole. And
and that was that was the one thing that oppressed
me so much about Ladamium early in Spare, I'm like, man,
this is a rookie with all his patients, and for
Bill there's times where he just kind of being really
patient and then when he sees that crease and he
just hits it. And those are the makings that you

(43:19):
can't teach that as a as a as a running back.
You those are instinct of things that you just have
or you don't have. And he allows his blocks to
be set up. And then he also has that ability
to say, okay, it's time to it's time to kick
it in the sixth gear, and he can do it
in the heart beating. And there was a there was
one time yesterday. I mean it was probably a crease

(43:41):
about this this why that he got through It's like, man,
how how did he get through that hole? But unique ability,
uncount ability, and they're gonna probably start to get put
them on his plate. He had the two receptions for
thirty nine yards. Sure you'll probably you'll start to see
his his role expan a lot more too, especially as
he improves as in past protection Flutch.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
I will say, man, you must had a really good
time out in La. Man, your voice is I can't
wait to watch the bram cam this week. Sew see
where see where that voice went with all that shouting
you got going on there, Bud. But yeah, I think
the other thing too about Bill Krosky Merrit is like
when he had like these great acceleration metrics coming out
of the combine, and I think you see that when
he's playing right. You know, it's like one of those

(44:25):
things where it's like, yeah, do the numbers of the
combine always translate or do the GPS numbers always translate
to what you see on the field? And not always,
But I think in his case, you see like the
importance of having a back that can quickly accelerate into
into space and the vision is tremendous. We knew that
coming out, but you always wonder about the physical tools
and how they translate. And I think what you're talking

(44:45):
about his ability to kind of be patient and then
get to get from zero to sixty immediately and get
an actualize that crease, actualize that space is something that
makes him really really special. And again like the fearlessness
with which he plays and which he gets down here
because there's a lot of backs that don't like mixing
it up in those tight creases because it's a big
hit usually, but he trusts himself. He's running with good physicality,

(45:08):
and again, like you feel the explosive element that he
adds to the offense, and an offense that with Terry
and Noah being out needs to find these explosive plays.
He seems like a natural person to kind of give
more opportunity to.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I think it's every week you could find a highlight
or someone the only thing they're able to grab is
his T shirt. This is every week with him, so
they're hanging on for dear life. His elusiveness is obvious,
and now he admitted to us. We talked to him
after the game and outside the locker room that fifteen
yard touchdown run was not supposed to go where it went,
but he just shrugged and he goes, I'm just playing football.

(45:44):
I'm pretty convinced the first touchdown he scored against the
Giants was not supposed to go where it went, but
he popped it out there and he scored anyway. So
there are some instincts that are obvious here in him.
I'd love to talk to the coaches about when you
hear him say that wasn't supposed to go there and
the rookies doing it, but it's working out. So there's
a fine line here, obviously, but it's really working out.

(46:06):
Its instincts are really on display.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
It's interesting that he would say that because, like when
you watch the clip. It's like the way the linebacker
fit the block, the way the tack, the way that
the hat position is of the offensive lineman. It's like, yeah,
that's where it should go. So to me, he's like
reading it correctly, Like is it maybe the primary gap
where it's supposed to go? Probably not, but like in
terms of how it played out in the moment. And
that's the thing. Do you remember. I don't know if

(46:29):
you remember this fletch, but Kyle Shanahan and team meeting
always used to be like, I don't coach runners. I
don't want to like negate the thing that makes them
special in terms of their instinct. I try to like
lay a framework for them. But they got to go
paint the canvas. You know. Maybe I'll put the in
terms of this analogy, I'll go put the canvas on
the easel for him and I give them the paints
I want him to use. But they got to paint

(46:50):
the picture. And it's such a unique position in that way.
And I think you feel that creative genesse claw if
you will, when Bills running the football, and again that
you don't want to squash that, you know, if let's say,
for example, on that play bounces it out and he
gets tackled. For no game. You can bring him to
the sideline and be like, hey, man, just read that
block a little bit better. Whatever. But if he goes
to the course of touchdown, that's him with that bru

(47:11):
that that that brushstroke that makes him special.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and you that's that's what the You
look at all the great running backs in the history
of the game. I mean Barry Sadners, you think they
tried to coach. Probably of his runs were not designed
to go where they went. But at some point, once
you get the ball, they hands, yeah, hey this is

(47:35):
where it should hit. But if you get a flash
and hey I got a jump cut here and then
get get I see it crease here, you're going to
do that and naturalistics takes over.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
This is This is one of those things, Fletch that
like I I kind of regret about my career in
a way, Like is I was so locked in on
coaching that it like forced me to play in a box. Right,
But the really good plays are able to take coaching,
understand where the lines in the court are and then
kind of do something special in or around them or

(48:08):
outside of them. Does that make sense.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Think about it. Yeah, no, absolutely So think about Travis
Kelcey where he runs his routes he's doing is it's
dagger rout of his basic route, not gonna look the
same as other people's basic or other tight ends I had.
I had a linebacker coach when I played in Buffalo,

(48:30):
and Tequil spikes to myself. Tequilo was the wheel, I
was the mic, and the coach would tell us, Hey,
this is how it should be done. But if you
do it your way, just make sure it works so
I won't have a problem with it. And we would
be literally on the field and it might be for

(48:53):
the ball and we've exchanged responsibility. He I'm gonna do
that because now instinct come into play, Like, okay, I
feel like this is about to happen. So if you
do this to you're gonna be able to make an
attackle for a loss and I'll cover you and go
over the top or stuff like that. But you got
to make it work and just the ability to be

(49:16):
creative so to speak.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
There like it feels like there's a little bit of
basketball to this team. Like Jaden obviously loves Kobe Bryant
talks about Kobe Bryant, and what separates him is he
instinctually does things within the context of what they're putting together.
They're unusual, special and can take a game over. Bill's
got a little bit of this, Like there's this kind
of like improvising element that's there. Like the Princeton offense

(49:41):
is amazing to watch with the unathletic players and they're
able to score all these points give them. Kobe Bryant,
he's not going to play within that contest. He's not
going to play within that context, and he's going to
take over in his own way. The special ones do that,
and I think we're you know, like I don't want
to get ahead of ourselves with Bill, but it's been
an unbelievable start to his career, and week to week
to week you're seeing more, more and more. He's capably

(50:01):
of being physical, he's capable of being elusive, and he's
capable of making big plays off instincts. It's all a
really good start.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Great start, great start, but again, like, well, he's he's
doing a good job, but it's also the system is
doing a great job supporting him. The coaches. We just
talked about the offensive line, like if you have time,
if you're watching this and you have time to go
back and watch his runs, look at how many clean
runs he has. Like that will line that blocking surface
is doing a great job. And I'm not saying that

(50:30):
like what I'm not saying his special is. I'm not
detracting from his special but like the front, that front
is playing so so well, and I think it's just
by jugaposition. If you look like a mari and Hampton
or Marian Hampton. I thought had a great day running
the football and in some ways had a better day
than Bill in terms of running the football, breaking tackles,
creating after contact. The problem is that our defensive line

(50:52):
was in the backfield every single play and he had
to be creative and to get a two yard game,
while Bill is being creative to get to a ten
yard game.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeap out And I'm gonna watch that film. Bill great.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
I know I'm saying you had a great game, but
like we gotta it's it's a Football is the ultimate
team game, Fletch. You know what I'm saying. Football is
the game.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Absolutely absolutely It's time to give out the belt, Broh.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
You want to give out to the belt belt?

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Look at the music. It's coming in and everyone's decided.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
It's time for the Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Championship. Introducing
the challenger, Bill Krossky Merritt and the reigning defending undisputed
Big Fletch Commander Heavyweight Champion, Bobby Wagner.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I appreciate you, Logan hold him
down the belt in the Big Bear AI Command Center. Student.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Let's pay those bills, baby, Oh.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, oh yeah. All right, So we got a heavyweight
championship matchup going on here. Bobby Wagner, the ranting champion
Big Flesh Commander's Heavyweight Champion, had a game yesterday. Fourteen tackles,
eight of them solos hit on the quarterback. He's second

(52:34):
in the National Football League with fifty six tackles on
the season. In order to beat the champ, you got
to beat the champ, so Bill Crosskey Merritt, he said, Man,
I'm coming here to try to beat the champ. What
did he do? Fourteen rushes one hundred eleven yards, two touchdowns,

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perceptions for thirty nine yards.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Let's go first.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Washington runner with one hundred plus yards Russian posts against
the Los Angeles Chargers since twenty thirteen. That was Alpha Mrs.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
More than that team, Fletch.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
We both row on the team, both throw on that team.
Man defense balled out. Bobby was leading the charge.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
But and now.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Big Fletcher Commanders heavyweight champion Bill Crosskey married.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Let's go. I think that's all deserve though, as much
as that's hard, I'm sure for you to not give
it to your boy, your best friend.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I mean, I gotta I got we got Kendrick's spear.
But I gotta be honest, man cross But I gotta
feeling Bobby's gonna come He's gonna come back to get
his belt.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Yeah, Bill Crosskey Merritt. First Washington rookie running back to
have a one hundred plus yard day since Brian Robinson
twenty twenty two. Last year, Jayden Daniels did have a
one hundred plus yard rush day. He's a quarterback, so
first rookie running back to do that for them in
what was three years?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
What was the game you rush for one hundred yards? Jayden?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Jayden last year? Oh well, I gotta look it up.
We shouldn't asked me that question. Yeah, I don't remember.
I gotta look it up. All right real quick, since
it is Bears week. Next game Monday night Football at
Northwest Stadium. Bears, boy, feels like last year a little
bit off a by like they were a year ago,
and then we had one of the all time moments.

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So before we spend the week talking about how Washington's
going to look for their first win streak of the
year and beat the Bears, why don't we walk down
memory lane for a minute. It's been a year. What
do you remember about the hail Mary?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I remember you guys going nuts in the booth. I'll
tell you that, just absolutely losing your minds.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Bears an eight deep for a minute the goal line,
they bring three, Daniel's backing up. He's just gonna have
to let one fly. Goes to the right side, steps
away from the defenders, gives himself some time now, steps up,
fires heads towards the end zone. It is who you

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talk about A ball does on the Girls lamp.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
A girls series.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Just go back, and I remember being in like a
really poor position to watch it. Anyway, we go ahead.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
You weren't going nuts on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I mean I was, but I remember you guys going
absolutely crazy, just screaming because like usually you guys are
either's a semblance of professionalism. Bram always kind of get
the call out, you know what I'm saying, just trying
to force his way through there, no matter what the
situation is. But it was all of that was out
the window. Ever. All three of us were just fans,
and so like that's what I remember, is like the

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stadium going nuts, you guys going nuts in the headset
and yeah, just and the other thing I remember vividly
about it is Adam Peters in a full suit sprinting
down the sideline to go celebrate with people on the field.
Like that's another thing. I just like, you know, you're
on the sideland you see stuff. Is like him just
booking it in his nice, you know, five hundred dollars
shoes in the suit that shouldn't is like perfectly tailored

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at a full speed dead run down to go celebrate
with the boys.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Love that, and I just remember I remember thinking, first
of all, why we're in this situation? Because I felt
like we dominated that game, and yet we were down
at that point, and it was just like how did
we get here? So that's the one thing I remember,
The first thing I remember, and then just it felt

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like it took Jaden forever to throw that football. Before
he actually launched it, I was like, man, at one point,
I was like, he gotta throw it, because I thought
he was gonna get sack before he threw it. And
then just obviously, like matter from heaven, when Noah Brown
caught that ball, I was like, are you freaking kidding me?

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Just just a surreal moment when I know I'll never
forget him. I'm sure you guys won't either.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
No, I think amazingly like it was the easiest hail
Mary catch I've ever seen in my life because it
just popped up in the air. I remember them, you know,
talking about it the week after where they were saying like, yeah,
we practiced that scenario where he went exactly where he was.
Noah went exactly where he was supposed to go, just
in case the ball gets tipped up like that. It

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just fell into his arms. And yeah, I had in
the booth an out of the body experience, like I,
you know, you never expect that to be completed, and
I just lost my mind. And then I watched the
video of it again and I don't know how I
stayed in the booths because you pushed me so hard
that I can't believe I didn't like literally fly out
of the booths into the seats below.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Us that moment. Man couldn't help myself, Brahma, couldn't help myself.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
No, I ended up giving a Ted talk about it,
And I'm not even kidding. That's not an exaggeration. I
was like asked to give a TED talk and the
subject was that in that moment and like what that
meant for the franchise, for the city, you know, like
it wasn't the first huge moment the team had, but
I think nationally, even though that Cincinnati game happened on

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Monday night and I think was kind of the coming
out for everybody and we had a crazy that to me,
was it even more impossible throw catch situation that occurred
than what ended up happening here. Like the world saw that,
and I think like the perception of the team literally
changed in that moment when that happened. And then it

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was just cool to be part of it, because you know,
we were like racking our brains and we looked it
up in the ninety plus year history of the franchise,
we don't believe that it ever happened before, so it
was so cool to be part of it.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Really cool, really really cool.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Oh yeah, Logan, you just stood there and what giggled?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
What I did?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Laugh? But you know it just like it's one of
those moments where you just don't believe that it's happening.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
It's like I thought I told something this, Like you
practice that every Friday. Every Friday, you practice that drill,
and maybe it's Saturday in the walk through, I forget
the Saturday. You praxe it every every week you practice it,
and you practice that exact same setup. You say, hey,
three people are going to run down there, guys in
the middle, one guys in the front, one gets in
the back. You try to tip it up. The guy
behind and catches it. And you know, so I've done

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over ten years. I've done that a bunch in college,
we did the same thing and it never works that way.
It never works that way. And so to see it
like textbook executed like textbook right, everyone jumped up, Noah's
standing right there. Like for me, I just remember my
vision on it was like the whole group jumped up.
I'm like, oh, it's gonna get batted down. And then
it got tipped up and then everybody fell, and then

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Noah's just standing there it looked like almost completely by himself,
and then you catch a full I just that was
the surreal nature of it. Was like, that is exactly
what we practiced every single day or every single Saturday walkthrough.
And then to see it actually hit was in the
way that you designed. It was also kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah. It was like an instructional video like put out
to like youth camps. Here is how to execute a
hail Mary. And it actually really happened. And I've never
seen it happen like that anytime ever. Has it ever
happened like that? It was incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And then Noah's response after he caught it, Oh yeah,
it's like it was a random it was a Saturday
Saturday hell Mary cat walked through. Yeah, like he didn't.
He caught it and just walked away.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Meantime, everyone else is screaming on the top of their lugs,
and He's like, I don't know what I did. Man,
just caught the football, did what I was told to do,
all right, everybody. I can't wait to see what we
get this time around. Rematch Monday Night Northwest Stadium Bears
and commanders, and that'll be the next time we have
our booth review