July 28, 2025 • 33 mins
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Breaking Brett Jensen kicks the show off by talking about Roy Cooper’s official U.S. Senate campaign launch and the wave of criticism that followed. Jensen plays Cooper’s two-and-a-half-minute campaign video, then immediately pushes back on several claims, calling them misleading or outright false. He challenges Cooper’s statement about balancing the state budget, noting that for years, North Carolina operated without a signed budget under Cooper’s leadership.
Later, Jensen breaks down the Democratic response to Roy Cooper’s U.S. Senate campaign launch, highlighting what he sees as misleading claims and political spin. Jensen reads directly from press releases by the North Carolina Democratic Party, Josh Stein, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, challenging their portrayal of Cooper’s record.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three WBT Brett
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(00:55):
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WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc okay. So
early this morning, just like was reported late last week
or early last week, I should say, Roy Cooper, I
think it was Wednesday. Roy Cooper officially announced his candidacy
(01:17):
for running for US Senate. And so what you're going
to do here is here his two and a half
minute video, and then we're gonna proceed from there, because
you guys know that I will be covering this and
knee deep in the trenches with all the politicians, doing
all the press conferences and everything else like that, so
we might as well get started tonight. And here's his announcement.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It wasn't always as hard, because being in the middle
class meant something. You could afford a home, your kids
went to good schools, your job paid enough to cover
the basics, and most summers you could get away for
a few days.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
For the most part, life was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm Roy Cooper, and I know that today for too
many Americans, the middle class feels like a distant dream. Meanwhile,
the biggest corporations and the richest Americans have grabbed unimaginable
wealth at your expense. It's time for that to change.
I grew up in Nash County, working on the farm
every summer. My mom was a public school teacher, my
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dad a small town lawyer and farmer.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's where I started my family.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Taught Sunday school for years and started my law practice.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That helped everyday people in small businesses.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When you made me your Attorney General, I prosecuted criminals
and took on scammers, big banks, and drug companies.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
When you made me your governor.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We balanced the state budget every year and worked with
Republicans to raise teacher pay, recruit thousands of better paying jobs,
and expand medicaid to more than six hundred and fifty
thousand working North Carolinians. But right now, our country's facing
a moment as fragile as any I can remember, and
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the decisions we make in the next election will determine
if we even have a middle class in America anymore.
I never really wanted to go to Washington. I just
wanted to serve the people of North Carolina, right here
where I've lived all my life.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But these are not ordinary times.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Politicians in DC are running up our debt, ripping away
our healthcare, disrespecting our veterans, cutting health for the poor,
and even putting Medicare and Social Security at risk just
to give tax breaks to billionaires.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That's wrong, and I've had enough.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I've thought on it and prayed about it, and I've
decided I want to serve as your next United States
Senator because even now, I still believe our best days
are ahead of us. I love North Carolina, and I
know you do too. I need you to be with us,
and I can't wait to see you out there.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Here's the problem. There are so many things in that
statement that are just blatantly lies. Blatant lies. We balanced
the budget. You literally had nothing to do with it.
When's the last Like when I was governor, we balanced
the budget. You for the first what several years, you
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didn't even have a budget. Budget kept rolling over because
you didn't have a budget for what two years? They
kept using the old one because you wouldn't sign it.
So you had nothing to do with the budget zero
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point zero percent. You had as much to do with
the North Carolina budget as I do with the budget
that just came out with a big, beautiful bill. We
had about to see the same amount. Hey, I talked
to Tim More, he was on the budget committee up
in DC. He's been on my show. You talked to Republicans.
That's about what That's about the extent of it. That's
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what we both have in common. That is such just
so disingenuous. Now, what about the fact that he says
middle class inflation? Middle class? It has plateaued since Donald
Trump took over? You remember the big I don't know
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if you heard about I know Winnable probably talked about it,
and it wouldn't surprise me if Cochley, uh and Pete
also talked about it. The famous chart the graft that
went out on Twitter talking about trying to act like
inflation has gone through the roof under Trump. And then
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they immediately realized, oh, it's actually Biden, and they immediately
deleted the tweet, but not fast enough that everyone saw
and everyone took screenshots of it. That happened last week
from the Democrats right, The inflation under Biden and under
the Democrat control jumped through the roof undeniable. The only
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thing they kept saying was Jim Saki kept saying, there's
no such thing as a recession. We're not having recession.
We're not no, no, no no. And then how'd that
work out? How'd that work out? I mean, of course,
these are the same lying, despicable human beings that said
and look, Republicans lie to and when they do it,
they're just as despicable. But to sit there and tell America, hey,
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there's nothing going on with hundred Biden's laptop. Hey there's
nothing going on with the Ukraine stuff. Oh so all
those millions and millions of what was one hundred and
something million dollars or whatever it was, Okay, nothing to
see here? Was it two? I think it was two
hundred something million dollars that Ukraine funneled through the Biden
charity or the Biden companies and China right about that,
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didn't you? Yeah? Soo. I mean, of course, what are
we talking about, you like, for four about Biden's cognitive ability,
so on top of that, to sit there and say
we balance the no, no, no, no they You weren't part
of that any more than I was. When it comes
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to balancing the budget, and you talk about the middle class,
everything has gotten flat and flatlined by the way you
talk about giving tax breaks to the rich corporations. A
uh Cooper, how that honeywell thing work out for you
here in Charlotte. You gave them tax breaks to come
to North Carolina. I know that for a fact because
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I asked you and you said it. Asked you at
the groundbreaking and you said it. Okay, that is so disingenuous.
You're gonna hear that word a lot a lot. How
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about just untrue? I to go worklely untrue. Well, it's
Ry Cooper's truth. Yeah, that's exactly what a Democrat would say.
It's my truth, Isaac, It's my truth. Okay, Okay, when
we come back, I'm gonna play you audio of a
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really well done political podcast where they have a Democrat
like consultant Sean Spicer. You remember he was the first
guy that did like the media for Donald Trump when
he was the first time he was the president Press Secretary,
Shawn Spicer, and then he was the head of the
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rn C, and then I believe Whatley took his place.
I think actually I took them back, whiley I don't
think Whatley took his place, but he was head of
the RNC at one point. And then you're gonna hear
the host, Mark Alprin, who goes on a lot of
news podcasts, news shows. So when we come back, I
want you to hear what they have to say about
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the North Carolina Senate race and then bring up some
very interesting points, and then we'll go through what some
of the reactions were today across the state and across
the country as well.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I am still living.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Welcome Back to Breaking with Brett Jensen here on News
Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three. Okay, So there's
a really really solid political podcast and it's also on
YouTube and you can watch it completely free on YouTube.
As I tell everyone all the time, and the host
is Mark Halprin. Now, Mark is like he's a lot
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I mean, he's all over the place, all right, Mark Halprin.
Again he's primarily the host, but he's a political journalist
and he's been in the media for a very very
very long time. Used to be with Bloomberg. He was
the lead political analyst for MSNBC. Don't read into anything
about that. You know, he worked at Time Magazine. I mean,
(10:11):
like he's not making Kelly a lot. So again, like
he's he's considered a really good, you know, a really
down the middle, just a really solid host, Okay. And
then his regular two guests, Sean Spicer, who you guys,
Like I said, I already told who he is. You know,
used to be the press secretary for Donald Trump, and
then he was the head of the RNC and everything else.
(10:31):
And then you have Dan Turantine and Dan Turantine again
he was more into like strategic communications and government affairs
and stuff like that, more the Democrat excuse me, on
the Democrat side. Okay, he was on the Democrat side.
So you had like a you know, a guy Sean
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Spicser he used to be in charge of the Republicans, and
the Dan Tarantine who's like a political analyst and consultant
stuff with the Democrats. Than Mark Alperrin, who's been a
political reporter but down the middle on the host. Well,
every day they haven't a podcast called The Morning Meeting
every day at nine am, and they do it live,
and I don't watch it live, but you can go
to YouTube and pick up the highlights. Well, here's about
(11:15):
a four minute segment where they talk about Marco Rubio
and then they talk about Kamala Harris and then they
talk about the North Carolina and you have to leave
it all in together because they constantly are bouncing around.
So but everything they have to say about all three
races are very interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Let's see if we can cover three political topics in
two minutes, and then we'll take your questions and I'll
just summarize here. Marco Rubio was on Laara Trump's program
and she asked him about whether he might run in
twenty twenty eight for president, and he went directly to
basically saying jd Vance is awesome. I hope jd Vance runs.
That was interesting. CNN has a story over the weekend
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about Kamala Harrison, whether she'll run for Senate or president
or something else. It appears she continues to not have
made up there in her mind, not surprisingly, and it
also says she's canceled her August vacation. I'm curious if
you guys have got about where she's going to end up.
And then lastly, Ry Cooper officially got in North Carolina
Senate race today to run against the chairman of mister Watley,
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the current chairman of the RNC. It appears that both
men will clear the field effectively, and they'll both raise
tens of millions of dollars in what will be as
North Carolina typically is one of the most expensive races
in the country. So Dan, you want to comment on one, two,
or three of those in short order, and then Sean
and then we'll go to questions.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Sure, just quickly.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I think Rubio didn't say no, but I just don't
see him defeating Vance. But the question I think is
does the White House want a competition? So we'll just
have to see the second. I can't believe this, but
somebody I know who knows Kamala Harris said there she's
thinking of running for president more and I find that stunning.
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But you know, everyone, if you want, go for it.
And North Carolina, I just think that that In Michigan,
I think are really going to give us clues going
into twenty twenty eight because in North Carolina it's an
open seat. Both parties have their candidates. Republican outside groups
are already running digital ads against Roy Cooper. Yeah, you see,
he announced officially today. I think there's going to be
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a ton of money spent. Democrats have got to find
a way, when you think about after the next census,
to put North Carolina legitimately in play. So I'll be
really fascinating to watch it shun real quick.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
I think that the Rubia thing is fascinating because I
do think that there's an aspect of which it actually
contrasts with the Kamala stuff. It says to me that
he gets what the future looks like. Maybe he's positioning
himself for a VP role, or he sort of likes
you know, he has a good relationship with JD and says, hey,
maybe I can just stay on a side.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I mean, there's a million things, but I think it's
a big.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Tell for him because there's a lot of people who
thought that he might be the one of the other
alternative candidates on the Kamala thing.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I got just on a again.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Why this is contrast I could make a ton of
jokes about how ridiculous this is. But I do think
that her indecision, lack of planning, et cetera, just underscore
how bad of a candidate she is. Like, if you
wanted to do one or the other, you'd be setting
up stuff you'd be doing. I mean like this, this
to me just underscores how bad she is.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
And so I really don't care what she runs for.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
But if I were a Democrat, I would She is
to me so unformidable that that's the bigger story, is
that how etiquette is after what she's done, that no
one cares she is so good.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
I mean, I just this is when you would.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Be sending signals, lining up a team, getting donors ready,
getting people. I mean, to me, this just shows her
indecision continues to shine through. This is why she will
never be a good candidate and probably never win again.
And again, if I were thinking about running for governor
on the dem side, I'd be like, great, bring it on.
And then lastly on North Carolina. Look, I think this
is the ultimate proxy fight. Roy Cooper obviously very strong.
(14:59):
This is import short for Republicans because I think tell
Us would have held the seat. I don't know the
Cooper would have gotten in, but I think bottom line
is this puts a seat in play and spends a
lot of money that probably wasn't anticipated having been spent.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Whatley has a lot.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Of experience use the North Carolina's up chairman obviously huge
uh access to donors. Now, the bottom line is this
is just a pure proxy fight. When a poster asks
a generic question Republican or Democrat, nothing's going to come
closer to just these two candidates.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
It'll be a voter redg in turnout operation.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Uh. This to me is the new You want to
see everybody test everything, figure out what works what doesn't.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
You know every we're North Carolina will be.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Exponentially the most expensive race ever now and what de
surrogates are welcome in Carolina.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
I'll be very curious to see who Cooper's work this is.
This is literally like your proving ground right now. This
is this is the spring training of.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So they expect it to be the most defensive race
in the history of Senate races in America. And the
numbers you're hearing are just just to get in the
ballpark or five hundred million. They're wondering if Cooper is
going to have a billion dollars, you know, maybe Wattley
can get up to two hundred and fifty or seven
hundred and fifty million dollars. So there's a lot of
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talk about that, like like, Okay, what's going to happen.
What's going to happen? And I will tell you money
is going to be flying fast and furious in this race.
And because and he brought up a good point. Unlike
you know, you heard them say that at Tom Tailis
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stayed in the race, that Cooper probably wouldn't have gotten
into the race. I don't know if that's accurate, because
there was a lot of talk about that anyway, because
most people thought Tom Tillis would have lost, and most
people thought Tom Tillis would have lost against Cal Cunningham
back in twenty twenty. So they think that Tom Tillis
is vulnerable and that maybe we're Republicans wouldn't show up
to vote on his behalf. I don't know. I don't know,
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but I do find it interesting that here we are
and it's already being national news. So we'll get into
more reactions when we return talking about ranking with Brett
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Benson on this Monday night. Roy Cooper, former governor, the
man who would not take my questions for fourteen straight
months about COVID and all the stuff that he in
the state was implementing on the citizens of North Carolina
that made zero point zero sense and had zero scientific backing.
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Refused to take my question for fourteen months. I need
to get that audience. Send that to Isaac so we
can play that audio when I finally got to confront
him on why he wouldn't take my questions. And this
was in person, so he couldn't just hang up on
me on a zoom call. Oh, it was glorious. It
was glorious. All right, So let me give you some reaction.
This is an email the North Carolina Democrat Party put out. Okay,
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all right, here we go, Big News newsroom. Today, former
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper announced he's running for US Senate,
setting up what will be the most competitive, high stakes
Senate race in the country. Roy spent his career serving
North Carolina. Yeah, he was a politician from nineteen what
eighty seven until twenty sixteen to January first, twenty excuse me,
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twenty twenty five. January first, twenty twenty five, So what
is that fifth? Twenty five and thirteen, So it's what
thirty eight years As attorney general, Roy took on scammers,
big banks, and drug companies. As a governor, he balanced
the state budget every year. He literally had nothing to
do with the state budget nothing, worked with both parties
to raise teacher pay rate, to raise teacher pay, recruit
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thousands of better paying jobs. Point blank told me that.
He had to give tax breaks, had to give tax
breaks to companies. Point Blake told me that. And expanded
Medicaid to over sixty five thousand North Carolinians. Again, he
literally had zero point zero to do with that. That
was the Republicans expanding the Medicaid. That was the Republicans
balancing the budget. Leaving office as one of America's most
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popular governors, that is not necessarily true. When he left office,
he was in shame. He left in shame the way
he handled Hurricane Helene. Roy Cooper is running to protect
the and grow the middle class. Well, his party screwed
that up. From from twenty twenty to twenty twenty, twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty five. Stop politicians in DC
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from running up the debt. I'm sorry, what and ripping
away healthcare from North Carolina families and finally bringing common sense, decency,
and a real North Carond of values to the US Senate. Okay,
but here's the challenge. Maga. Republicans and billionaire super packs
are already getting ready to pour millions into North Carolina
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to try and buy the seat and install another rubber
stamp for their reckless agenda that puts Medicare, social Security,
and affordable health care at risk just to give the
ultra wealthy another tax cut. A that's just a flat
out lie, flat out lie. But more importantly, who poured millions?
Who raised two over two billion dollars in the presidential
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campaign in ninety days? Kama had two billion? Trump had
what a billion? North Caroline? How much of Dan McCree
when he ran for Congress against the Dan Bishop? How
much of that money was coming in from out of state?
What seventy percent of it? If I'm not mistaken, what
are they talking about? Democrats always raise and outspend Republicans always.
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The stakes are too high for our country to let
this happen. We're going to need this fight. We're going
to need everyone of this fight from day one, actually
Day wants you to be capitalized. It's not. This race
could come down to just a handful of votes, and
we can't build a winning campaign without grassroots supporters like you.
Will you chip in ten dollars, twenty five dollars or
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whatever you can and give monthly. We know the other
side will spend whatever it takes to try and buy
the seat. Oh okay, so tell me that you refuse
to take money from outside the state of North Carolina.
Tell me that right now in North Carolina, Democrats, tell me,
tell me that right now, not gonna happen. Not gonna happen.
So that's that's the email from the North Carolina Democrat Party. Um,
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let's see here, let's see what else we've got, Josh Stein.
The people of North Carolina have got some exciting news
that may you have already seen. Today. Governor Roy Cooper,
our former Democrat governor of eight years, an Attorney general for sixteen,
announceaid he is officially running for the North US Senate.
I could not be more ready to support him. And
then I'm proud to call Governor of Cooper a friend
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and grateful for a lifetime of service. Career politicians. Some
might call that. And by the way, why Michael Watley
not so much? And then again, you know Medicaid that
helped six hundred and seventy thousand people. Again, that was
the Republicans that passed that bill. Just so you know,
it's why don't you ask? You know, it's funny. I'm
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looking at josh Stein's email, I looked at the Democrat email,
I'm looking at the press release from the North Carolina Democrats.
They sent in another email and here is the statement
from the from the DSCC. And in case you're wondering
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what the DSCC is, it's the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, right,
and this is a statement from Chuck Schumer. You know
what's there. The one thing that they don't meant mention
when the biggest natural disasters in the history of North
Carolina were hitting and they relied on this, they had
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to rely on state government. It's funny how they talk
about things that he had absolutely nothing to do with,
like the passage of medicaid Medicaid expansion, had nothing to
do with that, or he had how he balanced budgets.
He literally had nothing to do with that. That's why,
you know, if Josh Stein had something to do with
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a budget. We would already have a budget in North Carolina,
but the Senate and the House are fighting over taxes
and teacher raises and stuff like that. So they're actually
fighting over that stuff right now. See, the governor has
nothing to do with it. So he did not pass
a budget, he did not balance a budget. He had
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zero to do with that. But he did have everything
to do with how people were to survive or get
money trying to survive in Hurricane Helen, and that, no
pun intended, was a disaster. Local church groups, Samaritans, purse,
other entities, other businesses, other Charita charities stepped up while
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North Carolina was floundering at the state level. Floundering I mean, unless,
of course, you listened to one particular female reporter from
TV in North Carolina and Charlotte that has no clue
what the hell was going on because she never would
leave Ashville, and then she apparently tried to get to
other places and they wouldn't letter. Guess what, I got
there multiple times? How'd that work out? Maybe if you
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actually went there, you would have seen the people instead
of actually leaving Ashville one time, maybe one time leave Ashville?
How about that? I digress. So Chuck Schueber's like, yeah,
Roy is a proven leader in medicaid expansion, and dada, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, Well,
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how come they're not mentioning anything about Hurricane Helene? Missed
that part, didn't they? Hurricane Matthew? Kind of missing that part?
Are they? Okay? How come they didn't mention the fact
that he vetoed a bill that would prevent boys from
playing against girls in high school. I'll come they didn't
mention that. How come they didn't mention the fact that
(25:24):
if there's a partial, let's say, if abortion goes wrong
and the fetus or child is alive, that you can't
kill that fetus or child, right. That was that was
the bill that was passed. So if abortion goes wrong
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and the fetus actually comes out alive, you can't just
kill it. Roy Cooper vetoed that, and the Republicans didn't
have superpower. So according to Roy Cooper, you can kill
venuses that are actually born alive. He literally vetoed that bill.
I was early on in my days here at wbtwo.
So that's the thing. So when they keep saying stuff
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like this, I will keep calling out all the bs
all the bs, and when Republicans put bs out there,
I'll tell you when that's true or not true. As well.
This is going to be a nasty race and Roy
Cooper has no idea what's about to hit him. I
don't even think he can even remotely prepare for what's
about to hit him from the Republican side, because he's
never had to face that he had two governor opponents
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scubernatorial opponents that refuse to go after him. Attorney general
from North Carolina for sixteen years, where a Republican has
never won the attorney general election in the history of
the Republican Party dating back to eighteen sixty one. And
then he was in one of the most jerrymandered Senate
seats for ten years up in Wake County. So he
has no idea about the hell and fury that's about
(26:53):
to be unleashed upon him. Welcome back to breaking with
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Brett Jensen. Got about old seven minutes to go where
I yeah, I take that back. Actually we've got about
five minutes ago seven four, five, seven eleven because we
went a little long the previous break. All right, So
now let's get to the Republican side. We know that
Michael Wattley's running. Donald Trump's not putting out an endorsement
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for a candidate who's not running, even though he hasn't
officially announced. And I know he was on Brett Winnables
Show last Friday and we played that show where we
played that clip on my show last week, and he
hasn't officially announced, you know, And so just my guest,
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here's my assumption. I haven't spoken to a single soul
associated with Michael Watley or anyone with a Republican Party
or anything like that. It's just my best guess. He
has to get everything in order.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Obviously you got to get your campaign staff. You got
to get the people in charge of your donors, your donations,
because that's as important as anything else that he'll hire. Yes,
you got to have a chief of staff, and you
got to have a campaign manager, but the person in
charge of your fundraising that has to be basically your
second higher. All right, I got my campaign manager, that's
(28:41):
number one. Number two, who's raising the funds, who's in
charge of that? And then you build out from there. Okay,
Now I'm going to hire my communications director to handle
all the media requests. And then all the workers to
help with this, and help with that, and help with this.
He's got to get all that together. And then the
(29:02):
RNC they also have to figure out what are they
going to do for the chair of the RNC. How
are they going to handle that? So he will leave
that chair of RNC and then become a senatorial candidate.
Now again, I just find it difficult to sit back
(29:30):
and think that less than five hundred million, or let
me take this back, let me start up. I find
it difficult to believe that the Republicans aren't going to
maintain majority of the Senate. They currently have fifty three seats.
Right now, North Carolina routinely, not always routinely votes Republican. Well, Brett,
(29:57):
you know, well it's mid year, midterm. Yeah, yeah it is.
It is midterm, but that hasn't stopped Republicans from getting
elected in the past. In midterm in North Carolina and
Senate races Michigan will be about of ground state. It's
(30:21):
blue North Carolina. Let me let me put it to
you this way, Republican. Here's why I'm saying it. Mathematically,
it seems almost improbable that Republicans lose the Senate. People forget,
Democrats already have the seats in Michigan and Georgia. Okay,
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Maine could be a battle ground, North Carolina could be
about a ground and there's one more battle ground state,
right and I forget what it is at the top
of the at the at the moment. But let's say
Republicans lose all three of those, the other two Michigan
and Georgia, which is also going to be a bout
ofground Democrats already hold. So even if Republicans lose the
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three battleground states that they currently hold, that puts them
at fifty. Remember Joe Biden when Kamala kept being the
tiebreaker as the Vice president of the Senate, Same thing
will happen here, jd Vance. The odds of Democrats getting
fifty one seats is so high, or I should say improbable.
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The odds are so high and stacked against them. It's
I just don't see it. I don't see it being
a realistic probable probability. I just don't. Even if the
Republicans lose every single battleground Senate seat, Okay, okay, let
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him lose North Carolina, let him lose Maine, let him
lose Michigan. Michigan's already Democrat, George's already Democrat, and there's
one other one maybe Ohio or I can't remember what
the other state is that's already currently held by Republican.
And even if they lose all three of those battleground
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all of them, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, it'd be fifty
to fifty. JD. Vans is your tiebreaker, just like Kamla was.
So I don't see where they're going to get the
fourth flip. Just don't see it. And especially with the
ratings that are coming out where the Democrats continue to
be just destroyed in the polls and favoritism are the
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view of their party right now. So I just don't
see it. I know people are ANTSI I just don't
see it. Even with North Kahana flipping, you know these
other places flipping, I just don't see it. If they flip,
and I highly doubt that all five will be going
to the Democrats. All right, everyone that's going to do
it for us tonight. Look forward to talking to you
guys all over again tomorrow. My name is Brett Jenson,
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and you have been listening to Breaking with Brett Jenson
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early this morning, just like was reported late last week
or early last week, I should say, Roy Cooper, I
think it was Wednesday. Roy Cooper officially announced his candidacy
(01:17):
for running for US Senate. And so what you're going
to do here is here his two and a half
minute video, and then we're gonna proceed from there, because
you guys know that I will be covering this and
knee deep in the trenches with all the politicians, doing
all the press conferences and everything else like that, so
we might as well get started tonight. And here's his announcement.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It wasn't always as hard, because being in the middle
class meant something. You could afford a home, your kids
went to good schools, your job paid enough to cover
the basics, and most summers you could get away for
a few days.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
For the most part, life was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm Roy Cooper, and I know that today for too
many Americans, the middle class feels like a distant dream. Meanwhile,
the biggest corporations and the richest Americans have grabbed unimaginable
wealth at your expense. It's time for that to change.
I grew up in Nash County, working on the farm
every summer. My mom was a public school teacher, my
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dad a small town lawyer and farmer.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's where I started my family.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Taught Sunday school for years and started my law practice.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That helped everyday people in small businesses.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
When you made me your Attorney General, I prosecuted criminals
and took on scammers, big banks, and drug companies.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
When you made me your governor.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We balanced the state budget every year and worked with
Republicans to raise teacher pay, recruit thousands of better paying jobs,
and expand medicaid to more than six hundred and fifty
thousand working North Carolinians. But right now, our country's facing
a moment as fragile as any I can remember, and
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the decisions we make in the next election will determine
if we even have a middle class in America anymore.
I never really wanted to go to Washington. I just
wanted to serve the people of North Carolina, right here
where I've lived all my life.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
But these are not ordinary times.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Politicians in DC are running up our debt, ripping away
our healthcare, disrespecting our veterans, cutting health for the poor,
and even putting Medicare and Social Security at risk just
to give tax breaks to billionaires.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That's wrong, and I've had enough.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I've thought on it and prayed about it, and I've
decided I want to serve as your next United States
Senator because even now, I still believe our best days
are ahead of us. I love North Carolina, and I
know you do too. I need you to be with us,
and I can't wait to see you out there.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Here's the problem. There are so many things in that
statement that are just blatantly lies. Blatant lies. We balanced
the budget. You literally had nothing to do with it.
When's the last Like when I was governor, we balanced
the budget. You for the first what several years, you
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didn't even have a budget. Budget kept rolling over because
you didn't have a budget for what two years? They
kept using the old one because you wouldn't sign it.
So you had nothing to do with the budget zero
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point zero percent. You had as much to do with
the North Carolina budget as I do with the budget
that just came out with a big, beautiful bill. We
had about to see the same amount. Hey, I talked
to Tim More, he was on the budget committee up
in DC. He's been on my show. You talked to Republicans.
That's about what That's about the extent of it. That's
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what we both have in common. That is such just
so disingenuous. Now, what about the fact that he says
middle class inflation? Middle class? It has plateaued since Donald
Trump took over? You remember the big I don't know
(05:27):
if you heard about I know Winnable probably talked about it,
and it wouldn't surprise me if Cochley, uh and Pete
also talked about it. The famous chart the graft that
went out on Twitter talking about trying to act like
inflation has gone through the roof under Trump. And then
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they immediately realized, oh, it's actually Biden, and they immediately
deleted the tweet, but not fast enough that everyone saw
and everyone took screenshots of it. That happened last week
from the Democrats right, The inflation under Biden and under
the Democrat control jumped through the roof undeniable. The only
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thing they kept saying was Jim Saki kept saying, there's
no such thing as a recession. We're not having recession.
We're not no, no, no no. And then how'd that
work out? How'd that work out? I mean, of course,
these are the same lying, despicable human beings that said
and look, Republicans lie to and when they do it,
they're just as despicable. But to sit there and tell America, hey,
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there's nothing going on with hundred Biden's laptop. Hey there's
nothing going on with the Ukraine stuff. Oh so all
those millions and millions of what was one hundred and
something million dollars or whatever it was, Okay, nothing to
see here? Was it two? I think it was two
hundred something million dollars that Ukraine funneled through the Biden
charity or the Biden companies and China right about that,
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didn't you? Yeah? Soo. I mean, of course, what are
we talking about, you like, for four about Biden's cognitive ability,
so on top of that, to sit there and say
we balance the no, no, no, no they You weren't part
of that any more than I was. When it comes
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to balancing the budget, and you talk about the middle class,
everything has gotten flat and flatlined by the way you
talk about giving tax breaks to the rich corporations. A
uh Cooper, how that honeywell thing work out for you
here in Charlotte. You gave them tax breaks to come
to North Carolina. I know that for a fact because
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I asked you and you said it. Asked you at
the groundbreaking and you said it. Okay, that is so disingenuous.
You're gonna hear that word a lot a lot. How
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about just untrue? I to go worklely untrue. Well, it's
Ry Cooper's truth. Yeah, that's exactly what a Democrat would say.
It's my truth, Isaac, It's my truth. Okay, Okay, when
we come back, I'm gonna play you audio of a
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really well done political podcast where they have a Democrat
like consultant Sean Spicer. You remember he was the first
guy that did like the media for Donald Trump when
he was the first time he was the president Press Secretary,
Shawn Spicer, and then he was the head of the
(08:44):
rn C, and then I believe Whatley took his place.
I think actually I took them back, whiley I don't
think Whatley took his place, but he was head of
the RNC at one point. And then you're gonna hear
the host, Mark Alprin, who goes on a lot of
news podcasts, news shows. So when we come back, I
want you to hear what they have to say about
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the North Carolina Senate race and then bring up some
very interesting points, and then we'll go through what some
of the reactions were today across the state and across
the country as well.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I am still living.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Welcome Back to Breaking with Brett Jensen here on News
Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three. Okay, So there's
a really really solid political podcast and it's also on
YouTube and you can watch it completely free on YouTube.
As I tell everyone all the time, and the host
is Mark Halprin. Now, Mark is like he's a lot
(09:49):
I mean, he's all over the place, all right, Mark Halprin.
Again he's primarily the host, but he's a political journalist
and he's been in the media for a very very
very long time. Used to be with Bloomberg. He was
the lead political analyst for MSNBC. Don't read into anything
about that. You know, he worked at Time Magazine. I mean,
(10:11):
like he's not making Kelly a lot. So again, like
he's he's considered a really good, you know, a really
down the middle, just a really solid host, Okay. And
then his regular two guests, Sean Spicer, who you guys,
Like I said, I already told who he is. You know,
used to be the press secretary for Donald Trump, and
then he was the head of the RNC and everything else.
(10:31):
And then you have Dan Turantine and Dan Turantine again
he was more into like strategic communications and government affairs
and stuff like that, more the Democrat excuse me, on
the Democrat side. Okay, he was on the Democrat side.
So you had like a you know, a guy Sean
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Spicser he used to be in charge of the Republicans, and
the Dan Tarantine who's like a political analyst and consultant
stuff with the Democrats. Than Mark Alperrin, who's been a
political reporter but down the middle on the host. Well,
every day they haven't a podcast called The Morning Meeting
every day at nine am, and they do it live,
and I don't watch it live, but you can go
to YouTube and pick up the highlights. Well, here's about
(11:15):
a four minute segment where they talk about Marco Rubio
and then they talk about Kamala Harris and then they
talk about the North Carolina and you have to leave
it all in together because they constantly are bouncing around.
So but everything they have to say about all three
races are very interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Let's see if we can cover three political topics in
two minutes, and then we'll take your questions and I'll
just summarize here. Marco Rubio was on Laara Trump's program
and she asked him about whether he might run in
twenty twenty eight for president, and he went directly to
basically saying jd Vance is awesome. I hope jd Vance runs.
That was interesting. CNN has a story over the weekend
(11:53):
about Kamala Harrison, whether she'll run for Senate or president
or something else. It appears she continues to not have
made up there in her mind, not surprisingly, and it
also says she's canceled her August vacation. I'm curious if
you guys have got about where she's going to end up.
And then lastly, Ry Cooper officially got in North Carolina
Senate race today to run against the chairman of mister Watley,
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the current chairman of the RNC. It appears that both
men will clear the field effectively, and they'll both raise
tens of millions of dollars in what will be as
North Carolina typically is one of the most expensive races
in the country. So Dan, you want to comment on one, two,
or three of those in short order, and then Sean
and then we'll go to questions.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Sure, just quickly.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I think Rubio didn't say no, but I just don't
see him defeating Vance. But the question I think is
does the White House want a competition? So we'll just
have to see the second. I can't believe this, but
somebody I know who knows Kamala Harris said there she's
thinking of running for president more and I find that stunning.
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But you know, everyone, if you want, go for it.
And North Carolina, I just think that that In Michigan,
I think are really going to give us clues going
into twenty twenty eight because in North Carolina it's an
open seat. Both parties have their candidates. Republican outside groups
are already running digital ads against Roy Cooper. Yeah, you see,
he announced officially today. I think there's going to be
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a ton of money spent. Democrats have got to find
a way, when you think about after the next census,
to put North Carolina legitimately in play. So I'll be
really fascinating to watch it shun real quick.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
I think that the Rubia thing is fascinating because I
do think that there's an aspect of which it actually
contrasts with the Kamala stuff. It says to me that
he gets what the future looks like. Maybe he's positioning
himself for a VP role, or he sort of likes
you know, he has a good relationship with JD and says, hey,
maybe I can just stay on a side.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I mean, there's a million things, but I think it's
a big.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
Tell for him because there's a lot of people who
thought that he might be the one of the other
alternative candidates on the Kamala thing.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I got just on a again.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Why this is contrast I could make a ton of
jokes about how ridiculous this is. But I do think
that her indecision, lack of planning, et cetera, just underscore
how bad of a candidate she is. Like, if you
wanted to do one or the other, you'd be setting
up stuff you'd be doing. I mean like this, this
to me just underscores how bad she is.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
And so I really don't care what she runs for.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
But if I were a Democrat, I would She is
to me so unformidable that that's the bigger story, is
that how etiquette is after what she's done, that no
one cares she is so good.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
I mean, I just this is when you would.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Be sending signals, lining up a team, getting donors ready,
getting people. I mean, to me, this just shows her
indecision continues to shine through. This is why she will
never be a good candidate and probably never win again.
And again, if I were thinking about running for governor
on the dem side, I'd be like, great, bring it on.
And then lastly on North Carolina. Look, I think this
is the ultimate proxy fight. Roy Cooper obviously very strong.
(14:59):
This is import short for Republicans because I think tell
Us would have held the seat. I don't know the
Cooper would have gotten in, but I think bottom line
is this puts a seat in play and spends a
lot of money that probably wasn't anticipated having been spent.
Speaker 8 (15:12):
Whatley has a lot.
Speaker 7 (15:14):
Of experience use the North Carolina's up chairman obviously huge
uh access to donors. Now, the bottom line is this
is just a pure proxy fight. When a poster asks
a generic question Republican or Democrat, nothing's going to come
closer to just these two candidates.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
It'll be a voter redg in turnout operation.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Uh. This to me is the new You want to
see everybody test everything, figure out what works what doesn't.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
You know every we're North Carolina will be.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Exponentially the most expensive race ever now and what de
surrogates are welcome in Carolina.
Speaker 8 (15:48):
I'll be very curious to see who Cooper's work this is.
This is literally like your proving ground right now. This
is this is the spring training of.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So they expect it to be the most defensive race
in the history of Senate races in America. And the
numbers you're hearing are just just to get in the
ballpark or five hundred million. They're wondering if Cooper is
going to have a billion dollars, you know, maybe Wattley
can get up to two hundred and fifty or seven
hundred and fifty million dollars. So there's a lot of
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talk about that, like like, Okay, what's going to happen.
What's going to happen? And I will tell you money
is going to be flying fast and furious in this race.
And because and he brought up a good point. Unlike
you know, you heard them say that at Tom Tailis
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stayed in the race, that Cooper probably wouldn't have gotten
into the race. I don't know if that's accurate, because
there was a lot of talk about that anyway, because
most people thought Tom Tillis would have lost, and most
people thought Tom Tillis would have lost against Cal Cunningham
back in twenty twenty. So they think that Tom Tillis
is vulnerable and that maybe we're Republicans wouldn't show up
to vote on his behalf. I don't know. I don't know,
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but I do find it interesting that here we are
and it's already being national news. So we'll get into
more reactions when we return talking about ranking with Brett
(17:25):
Benson on this Monday night. Roy Cooper, former governor, the
man who would not take my questions for fourteen straight
months about COVID and all the stuff that he in
the state was implementing on the citizens of North Carolina
that made zero point zero sense and had zero scientific backing.
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Refused to take my question for fourteen months. I need
to get that audience. Send that to Isaac so we
can play that audio when I finally got to confront
him on why he wouldn't take my questions. And this
was in person, so he couldn't just hang up on
me on a zoom call. Oh, it was glorious. It
was glorious. All right, So let me give you some reaction.
This is an email the North Carolina Democrat Party put out. Okay,
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all right, here we go, Big News newsroom. Today, former
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper announced he's running for US Senate,
setting up what will be the most competitive, high stakes
Senate race in the country. Roy spent his career serving
North Carolina. Yeah, he was a politician from nineteen what
eighty seven until twenty sixteen to January first, twenty excuse me,
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twenty twenty five. January first, twenty twenty five, So what
is that fifth? Twenty five and thirteen, So it's what
thirty eight years As attorney general, Roy took on scammers,
big banks, and drug companies. As a governor, he balanced
the state budget every year. He literally had nothing to
do with the state budget nothing, worked with both parties
to raise teacher pay rate, to raise teacher pay, recruit
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thousands of better paying jobs. Point blank told me that.
He had to give tax breaks, had to give tax
breaks to companies. Point Blake told me that. And expanded
Medicaid to over sixty five thousand North Carolinians. Again, he
literally had zero point zero to do with that. That
was the Republicans expanding the Medicaid. That was the Republicans
balancing the budget. Leaving office as one of America's most
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popular governors, that is not necessarily true. When he left office,
he was in shame. He left in shame the way
he handled Hurricane Helene. Roy Cooper is running to protect
the and grow the middle class. Well, his party screwed
that up. From from twenty twenty to twenty twenty, twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty five. Stop politicians in DC
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from running up the debt. I'm sorry, what and ripping
away healthcare from North Carolina families and finally bringing common sense, decency,
and a real North Carond of values to the US Senate. Okay,
but here's the challenge. Maga. Republicans and billionaire super packs
are already getting ready to pour millions into North Carolina
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to try and buy the seat and install another rubber
stamp for their reckless agenda that puts Medicare, social Security,
and affordable health care at risk just to give the
ultra wealthy another tax cut. A that's just a flat
out lie, flat out lie. But more importantly, who poured millions?
Who raised two over two billion dollars in the presidential
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campaign in ninety days? Kama had two billion? Trump had
what a billion? North Caroline? How much of Dan McCree
when he ran for Congress against the Dan Bishop? How
much of that money was coming in from out of state?
What seventy percent of it? If I'm not mistaken, what
are they talking about? Democrats always raise and outspend Republicans always.
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The stakes are too high for our country to let
this happen. We're going to need this fight. We're going
to need everyone of this fight from day one, actually
Day wants you to be capitalized. It's not. This race
could come down to just a handful of votes, and
we can't build a winning campaign without grassroots supporters like you.
Will you chip in ten dollars, twenty five dollars or
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whatever you can and give monthly. We know the other
side will spend whatever it takes to try and buy
the seat. Oh okay, so tell me that you refuse
to take money from outside the state of North Carolina.
Tell me that right now in North Carolina, Democrats, tell me,
tell me that right now, not gonna happen. Not gonna happen.
So that's that's the email from the North Carolina Democrat Party. Um,
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let's see here, let's see what else we've got, Josh Stein.
The people of North Carolina have got some exciting news
that may you have already seen. Today. Governor Roy Cooper,
our former Democrat governor of eight years, an Attorney general for sixteen,
announceaid he is officially running for the North US Senate.
I could not be more ready to support him. And
then I'm proud to call Governor of Cooper a friend
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and grateful for a lifetime of service. Career politicians. Some
might call that. And by the way, why Michael Watley
not so much? And then again, you know Medicaid that
helped six hundred and seventy thousand people. Again, that was
the Republicans that passed that bill. Just so you know,
it's why don't you ask? You know, it's funny. I'm
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looking at josh Stein's email, I looked at the Democrat email,
I'm looking at the press release from the North Carolina Democrats.
They sent in another email and here is the statement
from the from the DSCC. And in case you're wondering
(22:49):
what the DSCC is, it's the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, right,
and this is a statement from Chuck Schumer. You know
what's there. The one thing that they don't meant mention
when the biggest natural disasters in the history of North
Carolina were hitting and they relied on this, they had
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to rely on state government. It's funny how they talk
about things that he had absolutely nothing to do with,
like the passage of medicaid Medicaid expansion, had nothing to
do with that, or he had how he balanced budgets.
He literally had nothing to do with that. That's why,
you know, if Josh Stein had something to do with
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a budget. We would already have a budget in North Carolina,
but the Senate and the House are fighting over taxes
and teacher raises and stuff like that. So they're actually
fighting over that stuff right now. See, the governor has
nothing to do with it. So he did not pass
a budget, he did not balance a budget. He had
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zero to do with that. But he did have everything
to do with how people were to survive or get
money trying to survive in Hurricane Helen, and that, no
pun intended, was a disaster. Local church groups, Samaritans, purse,
other entities, other businesses, other Charita charities stepped up while
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North Carolina was floundering at the state level. Floundering I mean, unless,
of course, you listened to one particular female reporter from
TV in North Carolina and Charlotte that has no clue
what the hell was going on because she never would
leave Ashville, and then she apparently tried to get to
other places and they wouldn't letter. Guess what, I got
there multiple times? How'd that work out? Maybe if you
(24:39):
actually went there, you would have seen the people instead
of actually leaving Ashville one time, maybe one time leave Ashville?
How about that? I digress. So Chuck Schueber's like, yeah,
Roy is a proven leader in medicaid expansion, and dada, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, Well,
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how come they're not mentioning anything about Hurricane Helene? Missed
that part, didn't they? Hurricane Matthew? Kind of missing that part?
Are they? Okay? How come they didn't mention the fact
that he vetoed a bill that would prevent boys from
playing against girls in high school. I'll come they didn't
mention that. How come they didn't mention the fact that
(25:24):
if there's a partial, let's say, if abortion goes wrong
and the fetus or child is alive, that you can't
kill that fetus or child, right. That was that was
the bill that was passed. So if abortion goes wrong
(25:46):
and the fetus actually comes out alive, you can't just
kill it. Roy Cooper vetoed that, and the Republicans didn't
have superpower. So according to Roy Cooper, you can kill
venuses that are actually born alive. He literally vetoed that bill.
I was early on in my days here at wbtwo.
So that's the thing. So when they keep saying stuff
(26:10):
like this, I will keep calling out all the bs
all the bs, and when Republicans put bs out there,
I'll tell you when that's true or not true. As well.
This is going to be a nasty race and Roy
Cooper has no idea what's about to hit him. I
don't even think he can even remotely prepare for what's
about to hit him from the Republican side, because he's
never had to face that he had two governor opponents
(26:32):
scubernatorial opponents that refuse to go after him. Attorney general
from North Carolina for sixteen years, where a Republican has
never won the attorney general election in the history of
the Republican Party dating back to eighteen sixty one. And
then he was in one of the most jerrymandered Senate
seats for ten years up in Wake County. So he
has no idea about the hell and fury that's about
(26:53):
to be unleashed upon him. Welcome back to breaking with
(27:17):
Brett Jensen. Got about old seven minutes to go where
I yeah, I take that back. Actually we've got about
five minutes ago seven four, five, seven eleven because we
went a little long the previous break. All right, So
now let's get to the Republican side. We know that
Michael Wattley's running. Donald Trump's not putting out an endorsement
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for a candidate who's not running, even though he hasn't
officially announced. And I know he was on Brett Winnables
Show last Friday and we played that show where we
played that clip on my show last week, and he
hasn't officially announced, you know, And so just my guest,
(28:01):
here's my assumption. I haven't spoken to a single soul
associated with Michael Watley or anyone with a Republican Party
or anything like that. It's just my best guess. He
has to get everything in order.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Obviously you got to get your campaign staff. You got
to get the people in charge of your donors, your donations,
because that's as important as anything else that he'll hire. Yes,
you got to have a chief of staff, and you
got to have a campaign manager, but the person in
charge of your fundraising that has to be basically your
second higher. All right, I got my campaign manager, that's
(28:41):
number one. Number two, who's raising the funds, who's in
charge of that? And then you build out from there. Okay,
Now I'm going to hire my communications director to handle
all the media requests. And then all the workers to
help with this, and help with that, and help with this.
He's got to get all that together. And then the
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RNC they also have to figure out what are they
going to do for the chair of the RNC. How
are they going to handle that? So he will leave
that chair of RNC and then become a senatorial candidate.
Now again, I just find it difficult to sit back
(29:30):
and think that less than five hundred million, or let
me take this back, let me start up. I find
it difficult to believe that the Republicans aren't going to
maintain majority of the Senate. They currently have fifty three seats.
Right now, North Carolina routinely, not always routinely votes Republican. Well, Brett,
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you know, well it's mid year, midterm. Yeah, yeah it is.
It is midterm, but that hasn't stopped Republicans from getting
elected in the past. In midterm in North Carolina and
Senate races Michigan will be about of ground state. It's
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blue North Carolina. Let me let me put it to
you this way, Republican. Here's why I'm saying it. Mathematically,
it seems almost improbable that Republicans lose the Senate. People forget,
Democrats already have the seats in Michigan and Georgia. Okay,
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Maine could be a battle ground, North Carolina could be
about a ground and there's one more battle ground state,
right and I forget what it is at the top
of the at the at the moment. But let's say
Republicans lose all three of those, the other two Michigan
and Georgia, which is also going to be a bout
ofground Democrats already hold. So even if Republicans lose the
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three battleground states that they currently hold, that puts them
at fifty. Remember Joe Biden when Kamala kept being the
tiebreaker as the Vice president of the Senate, Same thing
will happen here, jd Vance. The odds of Democrats getting
fifty one seats is so high, or I should say improbable.
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The odds are so high and stacked against them. It's
I just don't see it. I don't see it being
a realistic probable probability. I just don't. Even if the
Republicans lose every single battleground Senate seat, Okay, okay, let
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him lose North Carolina, let him lose Maine, let him
lose Michigan. Michigan's already Democrat, George's already Democrat, and there's
one other one maybe Ohio or I can't remember what
the other state is that's already currently held by Republican.
And even if they lose all three of those battleground
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all of them, doesn't matter, doesn't matter, it'd be fifty
to fifty. JD. Vans is your tiebreaker, just like Kamla was.
So I don't see where they're going to get the
fourth flip. Just don't see it. And especially with the
ratings that are coming out where the Democrats continue to
be just destroyed in the polls and favoritism are the
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view of their party right now. So I just don't
see it. I know people are ANTSI I just don't
see it. Even with North Kahana flipping, you know these
other places flipping, I just don't see it. If they flip,
and I highly doubt that all five will be going
to the Democrats. All right, everyone that's going to do
it for us tonight. Look forward to talking to you
guys all over again tomorrow. My name is Brett Jenson,
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