July 29, 2025 • 33 mins
Tune in here to this Tuesday's edition of Breaking With Brett Jensen!
Breaking Brett Jensen kicks the show off with an exclusive 1-on-1 sit down with Representative David Willis from Union County to discuss a major day of legislative action in Raleigh. With eight successful veto overrides on the House side, including bills targeting school safety, illegal immigration enforcement, and protections for women and minors, Rep. Willis shares key insights into the General Assembly's priorities. He breaks down House Bill 318, which aims to ensure sheriffs cooperate with federal ICE detainers, and House Bill 193, which allows armed security at private schools.
Jensen and Representative Willis also dive into House Bill 805, which outlines definitions around gender in state law and restricts the use of state funds for gender transition procedures in prisons and among minors. Plus, they explore Senate Bill 254 and its implications for charter school oversight. It's a packed segment full of context, clarity, and direct conversation about where North Carolina is headed.
Later, Jensen spotlights a powerful and unexpected moment on the House floor as Democratic Representative Carla Cunningham of Mecklenburg County delivers a fiery speech in support of House Bill 318.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Go News Talk eleven ten and ninety nine three WBT
Brett Jensen here with you again on this Tuesday night
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on accept Brett Underscore Jensen for all the latest and
breaking news in and around the Charlotte area. And boy,
there was a lot of news going on today up
in Raleigh, a lot of stuff going on up in
Raleigh today. And it was really it was Veto Override day.
Like the people were so excited that the Republicans on
the House side, the Republicans on the Senate side, they're
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putting it out like Happy Veto Day at like eight
thirty in the morning all over Twitter getting ready in
preparation for today. And so joining us now is North
Carolina House Representative David Willis out of Union County. And
first of all, David I really appreciate you joining me tonight.
And second of all, you guys wound up vetoing nine bills.
Did you think that you would get that many when
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they started going through the boats this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, to be honest, we weren't sure exactly how many
we were going to get. We actually a correction that
we ended up with eight. I apologize, I think I
gave you nine earlier. We was actually eight on the
House side, several more on the Senate side. But we
were thrilled with what we got accomplished today and we
look forward to coming back and finishing the job at
a later date.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
All right, So let's start off with some of the
more important ones. And so I want to talk about
the Criminal Illegal Alien Enforcement Act, House Bill three eighteen.
What can you tell our listeners about that particular bill
and how you were able to override it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
House Bill three eighteen is the continuation from a bill
that we filed and passed and the last term. However,
we had a handful of sheriffs around the state that
didn't want to comply. Unfortunately, there wasn't really teeth in
that bill originally that would force them to comply, and
so we came back and took a stab. I didn't
clarified it for those sheriffs that were still I guess
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miss misunderstanding their role and responsibilities. And so we clarified
that for them and let them know that under no
circumstances of they to not comply with federal regulations or
state regulations. And when it's in regarding illegal immigrants who
have committed serious crimes and their requirements to hold them
for ice or for federal agents to them and pick
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them up.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And for the listeners out there, Carla Cunningham, a representative
out of Mecklenburg County. She gave a fiery speech and
was the lone Democrat to switch to the side of
the Republicans on that vote, and you'll hear her speech
later on. Now, let's talk about House Built one ninety three,
the very first veto of Josh Stein's career veto override
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of Josh Stin's career as governor, the firearm law revisions.
Can you talk about that one and the firearms and
private schools?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you know, I think this one, obviously, being a
gun and bill, I think was apropos for it being
his first veto override. You know, this in essence really
is about school safety, and so we've talked a lot
about school safety school shootings over the last decade or more.
This really just allows private schools and then a lot
of times very small private schools to have armed security
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on campus. And so right now with our public schools
across the state, there's a combination of state, federal, and
local dollars that are going to the sroros to help
the local sheriff's department or local police department put sroros
at the schools. In Union County, for example, our County
Commission has really stepped up in the last several years
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and have funded an SRO at almost every single school
in the county. And and you know, a lot of
counties aren't doing that. Union County has shown great leadership
in that area and has stepped up to do so.
This would allow, you know, the small schools without much
money to be able to come in and to hire,
you know, or take on volunteers. You know, someone who
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is working at the school that has a certain background.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
There.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
There is not just any teacher that wants to come
in and carry There are strict guidelines around that they
must have a concealed carry license, for example, they must
undergo certain training, they must get signed off and approval
from the board of trustees of the school itself, and
so that there's and there must be obviously open transparency
communication with the parents and so there's a lot that
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goes into it. And so I know there was a
lot made up about this and a lot of lies
told about this bill today, but it really does give
the opportunity. It doesn't require anything from the schools in
order to force them to do this, but it just
gives them the option of having security at their schools
and have a really detailed operational plan in place for
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them to do so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Speak with North Calendar Representative David Willis out of Union County. Now,
let's also talk about the other really big controversial bill,
House Bill eight oh five to prevent sexual Exploitation of
women and minders miners. But there are some other things
in there, and talk about that bill if you can.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, you know, you and I have talked about this
bill and some of these provisions specifically in the last
few months, and it really is kind of crazy that
this is even we're even having to go back and
do this. But I think it's you know, the initial
piece of this really just defines what a woman is, right,
And so it just seems absurd to me that we've
been having this conversation the last several years and there
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are many folks out there don't seem to be able
to define what a woman is. And so we we
go back into state law and we define that they're
too sexist. Uh and and you know that and that
you are what you were as as as a part
of your uh, your your birth certificate and and that
doesn't change. And so this prohibits kids from from transitioning
in the schools and then uh, you know, being in
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a situation where they might have a boy and a
girl in a room together on a on a field
trip or something, if they're having to stay overnight or uh,
you know, other sleeping quarters or uh, you know, preventing
them from you know, from from being in uh, you know,
other situations within the school that that that weren't covered previously.
And other bills also bars the state funds from gender
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transition procedures for folks in prison, for and for buyers
right any and no state dollars can go to those
uh to the you know, those transitional medical expenses.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
UH.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It also extends the statute of limitation ends uh, you
know for folks that that you know that are going
after uh doctors or other folks that have been bad
actors in this case. And also establishes a new online
age verification standards for pornographic sites and and and other
you know, obscene materials. UH. And it insures parental rights
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and in the educational side of ofsuring ensuring what is
and what isn't uh, you know, considered obscene. I mean
we've talked about books or content or materials, and and
so I mean the parents should have us say, uh
in what is allowed and and what is considered obscene
shouldn't be allowed in our schools and especially in our
K five programs. I mean, our kids are just not
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ready for this material, this content. And we've seen time
and time again, you know, there's just really bad material
that shouldn't be out there in our schools.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And finally, here with Representative David Willis side of the
Union County, let's talk about the UH Centibil two fifty four,
the charter school changes that I know that you are
very active in.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yes, so this you know, we you've been working really
hard to make sure that the charter schools have, you know,
a place within the public school system, and they have
folks that understand and and really can manage the day
to day and oversight of our charter schools. And so
we set up the Charter School Review the Review Board,
and this just clarifies some of their responsibilities and their obligations.
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Delegates that from the State Board of Election of Education,
excuse me, and and and you know, we hear a
lot about well that's not constitutional that you know, the
State Board should oversee all education, all public education. Of
two pieces they often leave out on that as one
is the State Board does have a pellet responsibilities on
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this for any appeals of any decisions that are made
by the Charter Review Board. And also the State Board
of Education is beholden to the General Assembly. And I
think that's the one thing that was certainly left out
of the debate today on the floor. And when they
like to quote the Constitution on the other side, they
like to cherry pick and leave out certain phrases. But
you know, having the General Assemblies ultimate responsibility for education,
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you know, it is critically important to us. And think
they just don't like the fact that we're using that authority.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
David willis representative out of Union County. I know there
was a lot that we tried to cover there in
a very short period of time, and I really do
appreciate you giving a complete breakdown of the four big bills.
And there were some other bills in there, but these
are the four big ones that are going to garner
a lot of attention.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So I really do appreciate you joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Brett.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
All Right, when we come back, we're gonna hear from
Carla Cunningham. You're gonna hear her fiery speech that took
place earlier today as the Loan Democrat representative out of
Mecklimborough County Democrat and that the Loan Democrat to side
with Republicans about the Ice Bill and cooperating with Ice.
It's it's I promise you you're gonna hear every single minute
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of it. And then it is a speech you do
not want to miss. My name is Brett Jenson, and
you're listening to Breaking with Brett Jensen. Welcome back to
Breaking with Brett Jensen on this Tuesday night. So today
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was veto override day up there in Raleigh.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Maybe tomorrow, maybe sometime next week. I'll get into all
the other races, the mayoral races that are going on
that I started last week doing a comparison contrast. But
between the Wattley situation and the Cooper situation, and the
Cooper situation again yesterday and then the Vito overrides situations today,
just don't have time to do that. So we'll get
into that because the mayoral races aren't going anywhere. So
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Carla Cunningham is a Democrat and she's an older black woman.
Don't know how old she is, but she's an older
black woman, and she represents District one oh six right
here in Micklebrook County, and she stood with the Republicans
today on the ice bill and a lot of people
weren't sure if she was actually going to do it.
She voted for the first time, but you know, there's
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a whole there's a big difference between voting for it
the first time and then voting for a veto override
the second time, going against the Democrat governor, and she
was having none of your stuff. She wants to make
sure that you understand she doesn't have time for you
and all your complaints right now, do yourself a favor.
Listen to everything she has to say.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
What purpose does the lady from Macilborough repsent of Cunningham
arise to speak to the bill, Well, he's recognize you,
tobate the mission.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Thank you, mister speaker. Today is a new day, but
I'd like to take a moment to reintroduce myself to
each of you. I am ads American descendants of slaves,
I am a Black American, and I am an American.
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I'm going to present my case in support of House
Bill three eighteen as it is time for my unapologetic
truth to be shared with all of you. First, as
a people, we need to recognize that it's not just
the numbers that matter, but also where the immigrants come
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from and the culture they bring with them to another country.
As the social scientists report, all cultures are not equal.
Some immigrants come and believe they can function and isolation,
refusing to adapt. They have come to our country for
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many reasons, but I suggest they must assimilate, adapt to
the culture of the country they wish to live in.
No country is going to allow people to come in
and not acknowledge its constitution, legal systems, and laws. They
were not tolerated. So do you think I can go
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to another country and set up my own rules to
live by, use the language I choose, and then tell
that country that you must speak my language. That's not
going to happen, nor should it. As a country, the
United States has been more tolerant than most other countries.
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Other countries are making it much more difficult to get citizenship.
We have been naive, We have been exploited and abused
by the different tactics to gain citizenship in America. It's
time to wake up. Global migration in the past was
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not projected to be as it is today. We must
establish new rules to address us distinct type of migration
that we are facing in our country, state, and cities.
It's time to turn the conveyor belt off and adopt
a global migration suitable for the times that we're in
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and that is not destabilizing our communities. A large number
of people entering a country can change it forever. In conclusion,
let me share with you all what happens when a
woman lawmaker like myself choose to move differently. Yes, I
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was degraded for my vote. Yes I was called racist
for my vote, and yes I was said I was trash.
However I figured it out. They want me to stop
elevating my ancestors history. They want me to be silent
in my country. They want me to line up behind
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their priorities while my people and communities continue to struggle
in our country.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Mister speaker, lady will just been momentarily members, it's not
a kindergarten class. I look up and I see full
grown adults, many of you senior citizens, and you're clearly
trying to make noise like a young child might when
they're having to sit in a classroom and listening. So please,
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you're not doing anything by making these noises. And if
the sergeant in arms sees the lady who just was
making the noise, the sergeant arms has the chairs direction
to go ahead and remove the lady. Again, folks, please,
you're allowing folks on both sides of this issue to speak.
If you want to come down here and debate, go
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run for public office.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Lady continues to have a floor.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Thank you, Mster speaker. As I was saying, they want
me to land up behind their priorities while my people
and communities continue to struggle in our country. Is this
not your country? This is my country, with the good
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and the not so good. This is my country. It
is a bee now. If you want to adapt to
my country, not isolate yourself, and come here legally, I
welcome you. But today I am telling you I am
not going to be silenced by those who disagree with
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my ideology on the issue at hand.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Because one second represent of Cunningham, for what purpose is
the lady from from new hand represent of Butler.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I feel like we're getting into personal territory and maligning
the character of the members of this body.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Well, I think the lady is speaking of the personal
attacks that she received from things outside of this body.
Unless I misheard what she said. Uh, And the lady
is correct that it's not appropriate to talk about the
personal attacks of members of the body. Again, understanding her
to be saying some personal things that she received.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
From outside, Mister speaker, in that case, I would move
the previous question.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Okay, ladies, not recognize pormation. REPSTI cunning Aam. Lady continues
down the floor.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Thank you, mister speaker. See it was my ancestors who
came over as slaves built this country with a strain
on their backs. They sweat pouring from their bodies in
the rice fields, the cotton fields, and the tobacco farms.
For this country lived as servants. And what was the footstool?
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I said, the footstool for far too many feet to
step on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So today, if you.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Asked me to line up behind another group of people
to raise awareness about their plight, I unapologetically say no,
mister speaking. Colleagues, please exa my remarks. Thank you, mister speaker, I.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Told you, told you that's something you didn't want to miss.
Fiery Carla Cunningham, Representative out of District one oh six,
right here in Charlotte, right here in Micklimbore County, and
she will get a lot of blowback. But oddly enough,
it won't come from within the people come from the
people within her district. It will be coming from the outside.
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As you heard the Speaker of the House Deston Hall say, hey,
all you utterly people up there, keep it down, keep
it down. Instead of removing people senior citizens. It won't
be the people in her district that are upset. It
will be all the outside entities that will be upset.
All right, when we come back, let's get into the
transgender bill.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
What is a woman?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, apparently one local state representative has no idea even
though she is one.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I am still living with your goost.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Welcome back to breaking with Brett Jensen on this Tuesday night.
Store me off here and there. Seven oh four or
five seven to eleven ten is the telephone number and
the Liberty Buick GMC text line. Okay, well, you heard
Representative David willis Oude of Union County say that it's
a shame and sad that they even have to have
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a bill like this that defines a woman because apparently
so many people are unaware of what actually makes a woman. Well,
apparently one of them is North Kulina State Representative Laura
bud who serves out of Matthews and also into like
the Pineville area. And I believe she's in District one two.
Excuse me, one o three, she's in District one oh three. Well,
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they're doing the veto override and this is where each
side gets to, you know, speak on why you should
vote for it or why you shouldn't vote for the
veto override and again. This one talks about taking out
dirty books out.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Of the library.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And by the way, can I say this real quick,
there is nothing more annoying or disingenuous when Democrats start
talking about book banning.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Find me a parent, Find me a parent of a
second grader or anyone in elementary but we'll just say
second grader. So what happens if we had Penthouse and
Hustler magazines in those schools? Okay, well, I would assume,
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and I know what happens when you assume, but I'm
just gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. As
human beings, I would assume they would not want their
seven year old looking at such.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Material in school. Correct? Does that mean you're banning books?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So now the Democrats are banning books because that's what
they constantly accuse the Republicans of doing. Oh, they're book banning,
book banning. No, no, no no. If you want your
child to read it, you're more than welcome to have
your child read it at home. The book is not
being taken off the market. It's just being taken out
of an elementary school library or middle school library. There's
a big, big, difference between banning books. You want your
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child to see Hustler magazine, Penthouse, or any anything else
like that, You're more than welcome to show it at
home because the book, they're not banned. They're just trying
to prevent a six year old from seeing or reading
such things. So like that just annoys me to know
when when they say it's book banning, no, it's not.
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Nothing is being banned from the public US. Parents have
the right to access those books, and if you want
to give it to your six year old, be my guest.
But then DSS might be knocking on your door. All right,
So Laura Bud apparently doesn't agree with what a woman
is or that parents should not be able to have
the right to say, hey, I don't want my six
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year old looking at pornographic material because she was against
this particular bill about the protection of women and children.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Matchlberg Raps heard a vod is recognizing today.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
The nation for up to three minutes, thank you, Actually
not really. This vill unanimously passed the House in the beginning,
and it was bipartisan, man, woman, gay, straight, queer, Republican, Democrat, libertarian, independence.
Everybody liked it. Everybody voted for it, and everyone supported
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it because it did one thing. It protected women and
children and everybody else from aired pornography predators. It empowered,
it uplifted, and it actively supported and protected victims of
internet pornography predators. The Senate took it, they warped it,
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wrapping it culture war policies, and they send it back
to the House with a smile. The vote to concur
and now this vote to override the governor's veto is
overtly manipulative. To be voting on it today is sad
in the form that it is being presented to us.
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In history will judge us, and it will not judge
us kindly with respect to this bill. When we leave
here with our careers as public servants, we need to
remember one thing. Nobody is going to remember what someone else,
particularly said on the House floor in a debate. What
they are going to do is remember whether or not
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they're elected representative, did a good thing or bad thing?
Was their life better or was it worse because of
what was put before us that we voted on. It
is difficult when you come into this Instagram echo chamber.
Because you become important, we are often told you are special.
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You can do something, you can fix something, you can
make my life better, and we have to uphold that
responsibility one hundred and ten percent every day. And sometimes
that means standing up for what's right, not what somebody
else wants or has asked us to do. And in
this case, what's right is to uphold the governor's veto
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and say, you know what, this was a clean bill
that went over to the Senate. It uplifted, it empowered,
it protected and its supported victims of internet pornography predators.
And now now we are being asked to vote on
a bill that doesn't do that. It talks about all
of the divisive culture war issues just about that don't
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bring us together and don't make people's lives better. When
we decide we're going to legislate based on our personal morality,
it's not that I disrespect the personal opinions or positions
from where some of my colleagues come from. I respect
that those are opinions, those are beliefs, they are principles
and the values, and for some they are very deeply held.
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And I respect that even if I don't agree with it,
and I know most of my colleagues on both says, yeah,
I'll feel the same way. But when we decide we
are going to legislate based on our personal morality, we
have to understand two things happen. One, it demonstrates a
profound lack of respect for someone else who has a
differing set of principles and values. And it also the
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collateral damage is it is demonstrably cruel. That's what happens
when we allow ourselves to be manipulated when we send
a clean bill that does good things for victims of
internet pornography, and we come back to something that doesn't
represent what we sent over and then we're told you
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need to vote to uphold or override on a veto
that is not public service. When we allow ourselves to
be manipulated on that level, I think as you hit
the button today, keep that in mind. This is only
one of many of the bills, and it's not going
to be the last time that somebody works across the
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aisle to develop a really solid policy to protect people
that doesn't hurt or harm anyone.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
The Lady's time has more than expired.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Representative, but the question for the House is okay. So
a couple of things there from Laura bud.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Nearly every law is based on morals and moralities, and
just because you vote for a particular bill doesn't mean
that you're automatically judging the others. What about those who
don't vote for it? Does that mean they're automatically judging
those who did? Laura, I'm just curious the killing murder,
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isn't that all literally based on morals? Burglary, arresting someone
who steals things for you, that's moral?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Because I can tell you there are literal democrats right
here in Charlotte on the Charlotte City Council that I
always call the Shuns, that they did not want this
to make it illegal in public.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
This is a fact. They actually had to vote on this.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They wanted to make it okay and perfectly legal in
the middle of the sidewalk. The shuns urination, defecation, and masturbation.
They wanted to make it okay because hey, they've got
to do it somewhere. Why not in the middle of
the street. That's a moral That's all about morals, right,
isn't that morals?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Everything is based.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
On morals everything, So I find it also extremely disingenuous
that you would say you can't vote your moralities, and
I think the rule of politics before I get to Pam,
I think this is how it goes as an elected official.
I think the rule of thumb is you vote your
conscience first, your district or representative, your your district second,
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and then your party third. I think that's the way
it's supposed to go. Your conscience, your district, then your
party in that order. And someone said to me today,
a representative, actually state representative, said today, well that the
Democrats are flipped on that they vote party first and
then their district second because none of them have any morals.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Okay, well, that's that's what you saying, that not me.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But but my point is everything is based on morality
when you're putting together laws in the United States, the
state of North Carolina, Mecklimore County, and the City of Charlotte,
it's all based on.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I said, unless you.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
They're gonnap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Taking going back to breaking with Brett Jensen for about
another four minutes or so, because we went super long
the last break, because I wanted you to hear every
riveting moment and word coming from Laura Bud. You just
you gotta make sure you hear it because you may
not have believed it unless you heard it for your
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own ears.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
So I just want to make sure that you heard it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So all right, So let me get into one other
thing that did not happen today, and I don't think
it's gonna happen anytime soon if ever.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
To be perfectly honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
One of the things that was not voted on today,
was not even voted on, was the new concealed carry law.
The current law in order to have a conceal carry
you have to be twenty one, you have to go
to training, you have to get a certificate. Well, the
new law, but some the majority of Republicans wanted would
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lower the age from twenty one to eighteen to have
a gun, as well as to conceal carry permitt as
well as no more classes, as well as you could
just basically hide it. You don't even need to conceal
cary permit. You can just hide it on your person.
And there were some Republicans that were against this. Well,
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it's like, wait a minute, we're lowering the age from
twenty one to eighteen, and we're not going to require
an eighteen year.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Old to take a class. What wait?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
What and so that was one of the things that
Cooper Vita, excuse me, stein vetoed because I was so
used to seeing Cooper, because Cooper vetoed more bills than
any governor of North Carolin history, true fact. But Stein
vetoed that bill. There were some Republicans that had voted
against it initially, and they know that something like that.
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I gotta be ance with you.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't. I don't know if I've met a Republican.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Year that was actually in favor of that bill of okay, a,
you don't need a permit. You can just hide the
gun on your person and be we're going to lower
it from twenty one to eighteen. Oh, and you also
don't have to take any classes to learn how to
use it or anything else. That just seemed like a
massive accident waiting to happen. So that bill was not
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voted on today. David Willis talked about another bill that
actually was voted on today and he touched on it.
And it is somewhat controversial that will allow people with
concealed carry permits to carry guns on the grounds of
private schools. Now, it could be someone that the private
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school hires, like a school resource officer. There are a
lot of provisions that these people have to go through.
It's not just like David said, anyone can show up
and be on school grounds even if they've got to
conceal carry permit. They have to be given granted special
permission by the school board of that particular school. And
it all goes back, and it stems back, all of
the stems to the Nashville shooting at the private, small
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Christian school just outside of Nashville, where the woman or
the young lady who said that she was a guy
hated her school and went and shot all those kids,
and no one there obviously had anywherewithal to stop her.
So that's where this comes out. Because here in Mecklamore
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County you have a school resource officer at every single
high school, every single middle school. You do not have
school resource officers at any of the elementary schools.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
None. Zero.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So this is a way that these small private schools,
whether they're Catholic or Christian or just a regular private school,
they can combat that no pun intended and hire someone
or have someone from staff or whatever with a concealed
carry if they actually need it. God forbid they actually
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ever need it. That was that bill was a veto
override today, meaning a Democrat voted for this bill. Because
the House is one vote short of a super majority,
so to override a veto, you have to have a
Democrat on every single bill go across the aisle, and
they did it eight times today. Democrats walked across the
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aisle and voted with the Republicans, including Carla Cunningham on
the Ice bill, representative out of Charlotte. All right, that's
going to do it for us tonight. I appreciate everyone listening.
We're going to have a busy day tomorrow and especially
on Thursday, mark my words. Thursday is going to be
a very very busy day. So until then, everyone talk
to you tomorrow. My name is Brett Jenson, and you've
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been listening to Breaking with Brett Jenson.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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on accept Brett Underscore Jensen for all the latest and
breaking news in and around the Charlotte area. And boy,
there was a lot of news going on today up
in Raleigh, a lot of stuff going on up in
Raleigh today. And it was really it was Veto Override day.
Like the people were so excited that the Republicans on
the House side, the Republicans on the Senate side, they're
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putting it out like Happy Veto Day at like eight
thirty in the morning all over Twitter getting ready in
preparation for today. And so joining us now is North
Carolina House Representative David Willis out of Union County. And
first of all, David I really appreciate you joining me tonight.
And second of all, you guys wound up vetoing nine bills.
Did you think that you would get that many when
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they started going through the boats this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, to be honest, we weren't sure exactly how many
we were going to get. We actually a correction that
we ended up with eight. I apologize, I think I
gave you nine earlier. We was actually eight on the
House side, several more on the Senate side. But we
were thrilled with what we got accomplished today and we
look forward to coming back and finishing the job at
a later date.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
All right, So let's start off with some of the
more important ones. And so I want to talk about
the Criminal Illegal Alien Enforcement Act, House Bill three eighteen.
What can you tell our listeners about that particular bill
and how you were able to override it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
House Bill three eighteen is the continuation from a bill
that we filed and passed and the last term. However,
we had a handful of sheriffs around the state that
didn't want to comply. Unfortunately, there wasn't really teeth in
that bill originally that would force them to comply, and
so we came back and took a stab. I didn't
clarified it for those sheriffs that were still I guess
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miss misunderstanding their role and responsibilities. And so we clarified
that for them and let them know that under no
circumstances of they to not comply with federal regulations or
state regulations. And when it's in regarding illegal immigrants who
have committed serious crimes and their requirements to hold them
for ice or for federal agents to them and pick
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them up.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And for the listeners out there, Carla Cunningham, a representative
out of Mecklenburg County. She gave a fiery speech and
was the lone Democrat to switch to the side of
the Republicans on that vote, and you'll hear her speech
later on. Now, let's talk about House Built one ninety three,
the very first veto of Josh Stein's career veto override
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of Josh Stin's career as governor, the firearm law revisions.
Can you talk about that one and the firearms and
private schools?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, you know, I think this one, obviously, being a
gun and bill, I think was apropos for it being
his first veto override. You know, this in essence really
is about school safety, and so we've talked a lot
about school safety school shootings over the last decade or more.
This really just allows private schools and then a lot
of times very small private schools to have armed security
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on campus. And so right now with our public schools
across the state, there's a combination of state, federal, and
local dollars that are going to the sroros to help
the local sheriff's department or local police department put sroros
at the schools. In Union County, for example, our County
Commission has really stepped up in the last several years
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and have funded an SRO at almost every single school
in the county. And and you know, a lot of
counties aren't doing that. Union County has shown great leadership
in that area and has stepped up to do so.
This would allow, you know, the small schools without much
money to be able to come in and to hire,
you know, or take on volunteers. You know, someone who
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is working at the school that has a certain background.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
There.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
There is not just any teacher that wants to come
in and carry There are strict guidelines around that they
must have a concealed carry license, for example, they must
undergo certain training, they must get signed off and approval
from the board of trustees of the school itself, and
so that there's and there must be obviously open transparency
communication with the parents and so there's a lot that
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goes into it. And so I know there was a
lot made up about this and a lot of lies
told about this bill today, but it really does give
the opportunity. It doesn't require anything from the schools in
order to force them to do this, but it just
gives them the option of having security at their schools
and have a really detailed operational plan in place for
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them to do so.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Speak with North Calendar Representative David Willis out of Union County. Now,
let's also talk about the other really big controversial bill,
House Bill eight oh five to prevent sexual Exploitation of
women and minders miners. But there are some other things
in there, and talk about that bill if you can.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, you know, you and I have talked about this
bill and some of these provisions specifically in the last
few months, and it really is kind of crazy that
this is even we're even having to go back and
do this. But I think it's you know, the initial
piece of this really just defines what a woman is, right,
And so it just seems absurd to me that we've
been having this conversation the last several years and there
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are many folks out there don't seem to be able
to define what a woman is. And so we we
go back into state law and we define that they're
too sexist. Uh and and you know that and that
you are what you were as as as a part
of your uh, your your birth certificate and and that
doesn't change. And so this prohibits kids from from transitioning
in the schools and then uh, you know, being in
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a situation where they might have a boy and a
girl in a room together on a on a field
trip or something, if they're having to stay overnight or uh,
you know, other sleeping quarters or uh, you know, preventing
them from you know, from from being in uh, you know,
other situations within the school that that that weren't covered previously.
And other bills also bars the state funds from gender
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transition procedures for folks in prison, for and for buyers
right any and no state dollars can go to those
uh to the you know, those transitional medical expenses.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
UH.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It also extends the statute of limitation ends uh, you
know for folks that that you know that are going
after uh doctors or other folks that have been bad
actors in this case. And also establishes a new online
age verification standards for pornographic sites and and and other
you know, obscene materials. UH. And it insures parental rights
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and in the educational side of ofsuring ensuring what is
and what isn't uh, you know, considered obscene. I mean
we've talked about books or content or materials, and and
so I mean the parents should have us say, uh
in what is allowed and and what is considered obscene
shouldn't be allowed in our schools and especially in our
K five programs. I mean, our kids are just not
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ready for this material, this content. And we've seen time
and time again, you know, there's just really bad material
that shouldn't be out there in our schools.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
And finally, here with Representative David Willis side of the
Union County, let's talk about the UH Centibil two fifty four,
the charter school changes that I know that you are
very active in.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yes, so this you know, we you've been working really
hard to make sure that the charter schools have, you know,
a place within the public school system, and they have
folks that understand and and really can manage the day
to day and oversight of our charter schools. And so
we set up the Charter School Review the Review Board,
and this just clarifies some of their responsibilities and their obligations.
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Delegates that from the State Board of Election of Education,
excuse me, and and and you know, we hear a
lot about well that's not constitutional that you know, the
State Board should oversee all education, all public education. Of
two pieces they often leave out on that as one
is the State Board does have a pellet responsibilities on
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this for any appeals of any decisions that are made
by the Charter Review Board. And also the State Board
of Education is beholden to the General Assembly. And I
think that's the one thing that was certainly left out
of the debate today on the floor. And when they
like to quote the Constitution on the other side, they
like to cherry pick and leave out certain phrases. But
you know, having the General Assemblies ultimate responsibility for education,
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you know, it is critically important to us. And think
they just don't like the fact that we're using that authority.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
David willis representative out of Union County. I know there
was a lot that we tried to cover there in
a very short period of time, and I really do
appreciate you giving a complete breakdown of the four big bills.
And there were some other bills in there, but these
are the four big ones that are going to garner
a lot of attention.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So I really do appreciate you joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Brett.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
All Right, when we come back, we're gonna hear from
Carla Cunningham. You're gonna hear her fiery speech that took
place earlier today as the Loan Democrat representative out of
Mecklimborough County Democrat and that the Loan Democrat to side
with Republicans about the Ice Bill and cooperating with Ice.
It's it's I promise you you're gonna hear every single minute
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of it. And then it is a speech you do
not want to miss. My name is Brett Jenson, and
you're listening to Breaking with Brett Jensen. Welcome back to
Breaking with Brett Jensen on this Tuesday night. So today
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was veto override day up there in Raleigh.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Maybe tomorrow, maybe sometime next week. I'll get into all
the other races, the mayoral races that are going on
that I started last week doing a comparison contrast. But
between the Wattley situation and the Cooper situation, and the
Cooper situation again yesterday and then the Vito overrides situations today,
just don't have time to do that. So we'll get
into that because the mayoral races aren't going anywhere. So
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Carla Cunningham is a Democrat and she's an older black woman.
Don't know how old she is, but she's an older
black woman, and she represents District one oh six right
here in Micklebrook County, and she stood with the Republicans
today on the ice bill and a lot of people
weren't sure if she was actually going to do it.
She voted for the first time, but you know, there's
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a whole there's a big difference between voting for it
the first time and then voting for a veto override
the second time, going against the Democrat governor, and she
was having none of your stuff. She wants to make
sure that you understand she doesn't have time for you
and all your complaints right now, do yourself a favor.
Listen to everything she has to say.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
What purpose does the lady from Macilborough repsent of Cunningham
arise to speak to the bill, Well, he's recognize you,
tobate the mission.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Thank you, mister speaker. Today is a new day, but
I'd like to take a moment to reintroduce myself to
each of you. I am ads American descendants of slaves,
I am a Black American, and I am an American.
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I'm going to present my case in support of House
Bill three eighteen as it is time for my unapologetic
truth to be shared with all of you. First, as
a people, we need to recognize that it's not just
the numbers that matter, but also where the immigrants come
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from and the culture they bring with them to another country.
As the social scientists report, all cultures are not equal.
Some immigrants come and believe they can function and isolation,
refusing to adapt. They have come to our country for
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many reasons, but I suggest they must assimilate, adapt to
the culture of the country they wish to live in.
No country is going to allow people to come in
and not acknowledge its constitution, legal systems, and laws. They
were not tolerated. So do you think I can go
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to another country and set up my own rules to
live by, use the language I choose, and then tell
that country that you must speak my language. That's not
going to happen, nor should it. As a country, the
United States has been more tolerant than most other countries.
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Other countries are making it much more difficult to get citizenship.
We have been naive, We have been exploited and abused
by the different tactics to gain citizenship in America. It's
time to wake up. Global migration in the past was
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not projected to be as it is today. We must
establish new rules to address us distinct type of migration
that we are facing in our country, state, and cities.
It's time to turn the conveyor belt off and adopt
a global migration suitable for the times that we're in
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and that is not destabilizing our communities. A large number
of people entering a country can change it forever. In conclusion,
let me share with you all what happens when a
woman lawmaker like myself choose to move differently. Yes, I
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was degraded for my vote. Yes I was called racist
for my vote, and yes I was said I was trash.
However I figured it out. They want me to stop
elevating my ancestors history. They want me to be silent
in my country. They want me to line up behind
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their priorities while my people and communities continue to struggle
in our country.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Mister speaker, lady will just been momentarily members, it's not
a kindergarten class. I look up and I see full
grown adults, many of you senior citizens, and you're clearly
trying to make noise like a young child might when
they're having to sit in a classroom and listening. So please,
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you're not doing anything by making these noises. And if
the sergeant in arms sees the lady who just was
making the noise, the sergeant arms has the chairs direction
to go ahead and remove the lady. Again, folks, please,
you're allowing folks on both sides of this issue to speak.
If you want to come down here and debate, go
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run for public office.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Lady continues to have a floor.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Thank you, Mster speaker. As I was saying, they want
me to land up behind their priorities while my people
and communities continue to struggle in our country. Is this
not your country? This is my country, with the good
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and the not so good. This is my country. It
is a bee now. If you want to adapt to
my country, not isolate yourself, and come here legally, I
welcome you. But today I am telling you I am
not going to be silenced by those who disagree with
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my ideology on the issue at hand.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
Because one second represent of Cunningham, for what purpose is
the lady from from new hand represent of Butler.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I feel like we're getting into personal territory and maligning
the character of the members of this body.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Well, I think the lady is speaking of the personal
attacks that she received from things outside of this body.
Unless I misheard what she said. Uh, And the lady
is correct that it's not appropriate to talk about the
personal attacks of members of the body. Again, understanding her
to be saying some personal things that she received.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
From outside, Mister speaker, in that case, I would move
the previous question.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Okay, ladies, not recognize pormation. REPSTI cunning Aam. Lady continues
down the floor.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Thank you, mister speaker. See it was my ancestors who
came over as slaves built this country with a strain
on their backs. They sweat pouring from their bodies in
the rice fields, the cotton fields, and the tobacco farms.
For this country lived as servants. And what was the footstool?
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I said, the footstool for far too many feet to
step on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
So today, if you.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Asked me to line up behind another group of people
to raise awareness about their plight, I unapologetically say no,
mister speaking. Colleagues, please exa my remarks. Thank you, mister speaker, I.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Told you, told you that's something you didn't want to miss.
Fiery Carla Cunningham, Representative out of District one oh six,
right here in Charlotte, right here in Micklimbore County, and
she will get a lot of blowback. But oddly enough,
it won't come from within the people come from the
people within her district. It will be coming from the outside.
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As you heard the Speaker of the House Deston Hall say, hey,
all you utterly people up there, keep it down, keep
it down. Instead of removing people senior citizens. It won't
be the people in her district that are upset. It
will be all the outside entities that will be upset.
All right, when we come back, let's get into the
transgender bill.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
What is a woman?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, apparently one local state representative has no idea even
though she is one.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
I am still living with your goost.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Welcome back to breaking with Brett Jensen on this Tuesday night.
Store me off here and there. Seven oh four or
five seven to eleven ten is the telephone number and
the Liberty Buick GMC text line. Okay, well, you heard
Representative David willis Oude of Union County say that it's
a shame and sad that they even have to have
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a bill like this that defines a woman because apparently
so many people are unaware of what actually makes a woman. Well,
apparently one of them is North Kulina State Representative Laura
bud who serves out of Matthews and also into like
the Pineville area. And I believe she's in District one two.
Excuse me, one o three, she's in District one oh three. Well,
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they're doing the veto override and this is where each
side gets to, you know, speak on why you should
vote for it or why you shouldn't vote for the
veto override and again. This one talks about taking out
dirty books out.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Of the library.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And by the way, can I say this real quick,
there is nothing more annoying or disingenuous when Democrats start
talking about book banning.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Find me a parent, Find me a parent of a
second grader or anyone in elementary but we'll just say
second grader. So what happens if we had Penthouse and
Hustler magazines in those schools? Okay, well, I would assume,
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and I know what happens when you assume, but I'm
just gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. As
human beings, I would assume they would not want their
seven year old looking at such.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Material in school. Correct? Does that mean you're banning books?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So now the Democrats are banning books because that's what
they constantly accuse the Republicans of doing. Oh, they're book banning,
book banning. No, no, no no. If you want your
child to read it, you're more than welcome to have
your child read it at home. The book is not
being taken off the market. It's just being taken out
of an elementary school library or middle school library. There's
a big, big, difference between banning books. You want your
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child to see Hustler magazine, Penthouse, or any anything else
like that, You're more than welcome to show it at
home because the book, they're not banned. They're just trying
to prevent a six year old from seeing or reading
such things. So like that just annoys me to know
when when they say it's book banning, no, it's not.
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Nothing is being banned from the public US. Parents have
the right to access those books, and if you want
to give it to your six year old, be my guest.
But then DSS might be knocking on your door. All right,
So Laura Bud apparently doesn't agree with what a woman
is or that parents should not be able to have
the right to say, hey, I don't want my six
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year old looking at pornographic material because she was against
this particular bill about the protection of women and children.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Matchlberg Raps heard a vod is recognizing today.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
The nation for up to three minutes, thank you, Actually
not really. This vill unanimously passed the House in the beginning,
and it was bipartisan, man, woman, gay, straight, queer, Republican, Democrat, libertarian, independence.
Everybody liked it. Everybody voted for it, and everyone supported
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it because it did one thing. It protected women and
children and everybody else from aired pornography predators. It empowered,
it uplifted, and it actively supported and protected victims of
internet pornography predators. The Senate took it, they warped it,
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wrapping it culture war policies, and they send it back
to the House with a smile. The vote to concur
and now this vote to override the governor's veto is
overtly manipulative. To be voting on it today is sad
in the form that it is being presented to us.
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In history will judge us, and it will not judge
us kindly with respect to this bill. When we leave
here with our careers as public servants, we need to
remember one thing. Nobody is going to remember what someone else,
particularly said on the House floor in a debate. What
they are going to do is remember whether or not
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they're elected representative, did a good thing or bad thing?
Was their life better or was it worse because of
what was put before us that we voted on. It
is difficult when you come into this Instagram echo chamber.
Because you become important, we are often told you are special.
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You can do something, you can fix something, you can
make my life better, and we have to uphold that
responsibility one hundred and ten percent every day. And sometimes
that means standing up for what's right, not what somebody
else wants or has asked us to do. And in
this case, what's right is to uphold the governor's veto
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and say, you know what, this was a clean bill
that went over to the Senate. It uplifted, it empowered,
it protected and its supported victims of internet pornography predators.
And now now we are being asked to vote on
a bill that doesn't do that. It talks about all
of the divisive culture war issues just about that don't
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bring us together and don't make people's lives better. When
we decide we're going to legislate based on our personal morality,
it's not that I disrespect the personal opinions or positions
from where some of my colleagues come from. I respect
that those are opinions, those are beliefs, they are principles
and the values, and for some they are very deeply held.
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And I respect that even if I don't agree with it,
and I know most of my colleagues on both says, yeah,
I'll feel the same way. But when we decide we
are going to legislate based on our personal morality, we
have to understand two things happen. One, it demonstrates a
profound lack of respect for someone else who has a
differing set of principles and values. And it also the
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collateral damage is it is demonstrably cruel. That's what happens
when we allow ourselves to be manipulated when we send
a clean bill that does good things for victims of
internet pornography, and we come back to something that doesn't
represent what we sent over and then we're told you
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need to vote to uphold or override on a veto
that is not public service. When we allow ourselves to
be manipulated on that level, I think as you hit
the button today, keep that in mind. This is only
one of many of the bills, and it's not going
to be the last time that somebody works across the
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aisle to develop a really solid policy to protect people
that doesn't hurt or harm anyone.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
The Lady's time has more than expired.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Representative, but the question for the House is okay. So
a couple of things there from Laura bud.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Nearly every law is based on morals and moralities, and
just because you vote for a particular bill doesn't mean
that you're automatically judging the others. What about those who
don't vote for it? Does that mean they're automatically judging
those who did? Laura, I'm just curious the killing murder,
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isn't that all literally based on morals? Burglary, arresting someone
who steals things for you, that's moral?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Because I can tell you there are literal democrats right
here in Charlotte on the Charlotte City Council that I
always call the Shuns, that they did not want this
to make it illegal in public.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
This is a fact. They actually had to vote on this.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They wanted to make it okay and perfectly legal in
the middle of the sidewalk. The shuns urination, defecation, and masturbation.
They wanted to make it okay because hey, they've got
to do it somewhere. Why not in the middle of
the street. That's a moral That's all about morals, right,
isn't that morals?
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Everything is based.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
On morals everything, So I find it also extremely disingenuous
that you would say you can't vote your moralities, and
I think the rule of politics before I get to Pam,
I think this is how it goes as an elected official.
I think the rule of thumb is you vote your
conscience first, your district or representative, your your district second,
(28:09):
and then your party third. I think that's the way
it's supposed to go. Your conscience, your district, then your
party in that order. And someone said to me today,
a representative, actually state representative, said today, well that the
Democrats are flipped on that they vote party first and
then their district second because none of them have any morals.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Okay, well, that's that's what you saying, that not me.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But but my point is everything is based on morality
when you're putting together laws in the United States, the
state of North Carolina, Mecklimore County, and the City of Charlotte,
it's all based on.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I said, unless you.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
They're gonnap it up.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Taking going back to breaking with Brett Jensen for about
another four minutes or so, because we went super long
the last break, because I wanted you to hear every
riveting moment and word coming from Laura Bud. You just
you gotta make sure you hear it because you may
not have believed it unless you heard it for your
(29:25):
own ears.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
So I just want to make sure that you heard it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So all right, So let me get into one other
thing that did not happen today, and I don't think
it's gonna happen anytime soon if ever.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
To be perfectly honest with you.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
One of the things that was not voted on today,
was not even voted on, was the new concealed carry law.
The current law in order to have a conceal carry
you have to be twenty one, you have to go
to training, you have to get a certificate. Well, the
new law, but some the majority of Republicans wanted would
(30:03):
lower the age from twenty one to eighteen to have
a gun, as well as to conceal carry permitt as
well as no more classes, as well as you could
just basically hide it. You don't even need to conceal
cary permit. You can just hide it on your person.
And there were some Republicans that were against this. Well,
(30:25):
it's like, wait a minute, we're lowering the age from
twenty one to eighteen, and we're not going to require
an eighteen year.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Old to take a class. What wait?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
What and so that was one of the things that
Cooper Vita, excuse me, stein vetoed because I was so
used to seeing Cooper, because Cooper vetoed more bills than
any governor of North Carolin history, true fact. But Stein
vetoed that bill. There were some Republicans that had voted
against it initially, and they know that something like that.
(30:55):
I gotta be ance with you.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I don't. I don't know if I've met a Republican.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Year that was actually in favor of that bill of okay, a,
you don't need a permit. You can just hide the
gun on your person and be we're going to lower
it from twenty one to eighteen. Oh, and you also
don't have to take any classes to learn how to
use it or anything else. That just seemed like a
massive accident waiting to happen. So that bill was not
(31:23):
voted on today. David Willis talked about another bill that
actually was voted on today and he touched on it.
And it is somewhat controversial that will allow people with
concealed carry permits to carry guns on the grounds of
private schools. Now, it could be someone that the private
(31:45):
school hires, like a school resource officer. There are a
lot of provisions that these people have to go through.
It's not just like David said, anyone can show up
and be on school grounds even if they've got to
conceal carry permit. They have to be given granted special
permission by the school board of that particular school. And
it all goes back, and it stems back, all of
the stems to the Nashville shooting at the private, small
(32:08):
Christian school just outside of Nashville, where the woman or
the young lady who said that she was a guy
hated her school and went and shot all those kids,
and no one there obviously had anywherewithal to stop her.
So that's where this comes out. Because here in Mecklamore
(32:30):
County you have a school resource officer at every single
high school, every single middle school. You do not have
school resource officers at any of the elementary schools.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
None. Zero.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
So this is a way that these small private schools,
whether they're Catholic or Christian or just a regular private school,
they can combat that no pun intended and hire someone
or have someone from staff or whatever with a concealed
carry if they actually need it. God forbid they actually
(33:04):
ever need it. That was that bill was a veto
override today, meaning a Democrat voted for this bill. Because
the House is one vote short of a super majority,
so to override a veto, you have to have a
Democrat on every single bill go across the aisle, and
they did it eight times today. Democrats walked across the
(33:28):
aisle and voted with the Republicans, including Carla Cunningham on
the Ice bill, representative out of Charlotte. All right, that's
going to do it for us tonight. I appreciate everyone listening.
We're going to have a busy day tomorrow and especially
on Thursday, mark my words. Thursday is going to be
a very very busy day. So until then, everyone talk
to you tomorrow. My name is Brett Jenson, and you've
(33:49):
been listening to Breaking with Brett Jenson.
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