September 29, 2025 • 35 mins
Tune in here to this Monday's edition of Breaking With Brett Jensen!
Breaking Brett Jensen kicks the show off by talking about the packed House Judiciary Committee hearing at the federal courthouse and the emotional atmosphere surrounding it. He shares audio from the powerful testimony of Steve Federico, the father of Logan Federico, who was brutally murdered while visiting friends. Federico’s heartbreaking account highlights the repeated failures of the justice system, as the accused had been arrested 39 times with 25 felonies, yet remained free. Jensen underscores the raw emotion in the room, noting that some audience members reacted throughout the hearing, including protestors who had made their way inside
Also, Mia Alderman, grandmother of Mary Collins, delivered a powerful and emotional statement during the post-hearing media session. She recounted the horrific details of her granddaughter’s murder—stabbed over 130 times, left to bleed out in a bathtub, and hidden in a mattress. Alderman made it clear she was not there for political reasons, but to fight for justice and ensure Mary’s story is not forgotten. Despite suspects being charged, the case has yet to go to trial, and at least one of the accused remains out on bond. Her message was firm and heartfelt: “Mary matters.”
Later, Jensen is joined by Congressman Pat Harrigan for an exclusive one-on-one interview to discuss the devastating rise in violent crime and the justice system failures that have allowed repeat offenders to remain on the streets. Harrigan reflects on the brutal murder of Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, sharing how deeply it affected him as a father of two young daughters. He draws a direct connection between failed policies—particularly cashless bail—and preventable tragedies like the murders of Zarutska and Logan Federico. Harrigan criticizes a system that prioritizes criminals over victims and outlines how the federal government can respond, including using the power of the purse to pressure states into reform. He also responds to emotional testimony from victims’ families and highlights the need for real accountability.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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lettuce and breaking news in and around the Shawan area.
And if you'd been following me on X you would
have seen me posting things live from the House Judiciary
Committee hearing. Is the at the Federal Courthouse today where
it was. There wasn't an empty seat in the house.
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They stopped letting people in. There were protests outside, just
a lot of people there. And I will tell you,
you know a lot of the people that were out
of some of the people, not a lot, but some
of the people that were outside protesting against Republicans, against
saying Charlotte's a very safe city, you know whatever. They
some of them were inside and one happened to actually
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be sitting next to me, but and was making comments
throughout the entire hearing, basically every time a Republicans spoke,
but nonetheless it was it was a she you know,
look she had her little protest shirt on, and you know,
you know, had the look of a retired Democrat. I
mean they did. And so the entire time was making
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comments and I wrote a lot of them down just
because you know, it just it showed me what she
thought about you know, justice and how all this was
overblown and none of this was necessary. And look, the reason,
make no mistake about it, the reason they're in Charlot
is because the arena is the risk of stuff. Make
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no mistake about it. You know, they're not necessarily I
mean they're they they a lot of the Democrats are
outside that we're protesting are for cash list bail. They
think it hurts the poor. They think having to make
people pay for their train tickets a dollar seventy five
or two dollars hurts the poor. But in the in
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the testimonies today, and we're going to get through a
lot of this stuff, and we got Pat Harrigan. I
got a one on one exclusive interview with Congressman Pat
Harrigan after the hearings. He was there today as well,
but what I'm going to do is we're going to
play a lot of audio today, some things that you
absolutely could not hear unless you are one of the
media members there because a lot of this was not
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played on on all the websites and all the YouTube channels.
The first audio that you're gonna hear is the one
that's being made famous, but you're only hearing little sound
bits of it. You're gonna hear the entire coming up
right here is the entire audio of Steve Federico. He
is the father of Logan. They live in Waxaw. His
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daughter was brutally and horrifically murdered in Columbia while visiting friends.
So I'm just gonna let you hear. Here is Steve
Federco in his testimony to the House judahar A Committee.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How about of y'all have kids. I'm just curious. Here's
what I need you to do when I tell you
this story. Think about your kids. Think about your child
coming home from a night out with their friends, laying down,
going to sleep, feeling somebody come in the room and
wake them and drag her out of bed naked, forced
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on her knees with her hands over her.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Head, begging for her life, beg you for her hero,
her father me that couldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
She was five foot three, she weighed one hundred and
fifteen pounds.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Bang, what I want to do, and I'm stopping the
audio right here. What I'm going to do is let
you know that coming up in the next couple of
seconds is some language that some of you might not appreciate.
It's not against FCC rules, but I'm letting you know
there's some strong language getting ready to come up in
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the testimony.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Go ahead, Isaac dead gone.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Why because Alexander Devonte Dickey, who was arrested thirty nine
goddamn times twenty five felonies, was on the street. How
about that? How good are we doing for our family?
(05:01):
How good are you doing for your kids? He should
have been in jail for over one hundred and forty
years for all the crimes he committed. You know how
much time he's spent in prison, a little over six
hundred days in ten years. He's only thirty years old.
He was committing two point sixty five crimes a year
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since he was fifteen years old. But nobody could figure
out that he couldn't be rehabilitated. Well, you'd have to
put him in prison to see if he could be rehabilitated.
Isn't that the idea of prison? But no, my daughter
wanted to be a teacher. She finally figured it out
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two weeks before she was executed. And I haven't heard
a damn word from Byron Gibson in South Carolina, not
one word, four.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Months, no communication.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
His biggest concern was that he was pissed off about
my interview and how I made him look on the
Fox News channel with Trey Gowdi. How pathetic is that
now we're letting our twenty two year old kid visiting friends.
It's all she ever wanted to do is visit friends.
And she literally was executed while on her knees.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Begging for her life.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Her name's logan Federico, not irena, and you will not
forget her.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You will be sick and tired of my face and
my voice until this gets fixed. I will fight until
my last breath for my daughter. You need to fight
for the rest of our children, the rest of the innocents,
and stop protecting the people that keep taking them from us. Please,
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you have the power. We put you in the power
to do what you have to do. We're asking you,
We're begging you all to stop this. Thirty nine crimes
in ten years, twenty five felonies. Can anybody there here
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explain to me, well, how possibly he could be on
the street, possibly be on the street.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
How is it possible?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I could sit down a room and I can explain
the whole process I have it failed? How South Carolina failed? Logan, Okay,
how lack of communication? What y'all did? You woke up
a beast and you pissed off the wrong daddy? Because
I'm going to put it out there and I'm not
going to be quiet until somebody helps. Logan deserves to
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be heard. Everyone on this panel deserves to be heard,
and we will trust me. My daughter laid on the
floor for seven hours before somebody in that house recognized
that something was wrong and that curer criminal an hour
later went on a spending spree with her debit card.
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When they saw his face on a video, they didn't
have to do a check. He was arrested so many times.
I knew who he was, They knew exactly where to
go get him. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic that I'm here today
thank you for your time.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, So just before he spoke, you know there are
all these congress people there. You know, there were three
congress women, one Republican and two Democrats. The two Democrats
were from North Carolina, Deborah Ross, who represents the Wake
County area and of course Alma Adams, where Arena Zaruska
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was murdered in her district and took forever and ever
and ever to even make a statement or a comment
about it, even though it was in her district. Earlier,
when the hearing just started, Deborah Ross, the Democrat out
of Wake County, misidentified Logan Federico. She thought the picture
of Logan was that of and her father, Steve Fenderica
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was holding a picture. She thought it was Arena Zarutska.
Well before the hearing started, or right after it started,
I should say, before the testimonies. He ripped into her sideways.
Steve Fiederrico ripped into Deborah Ross sideways and rightly so,
and actually at one point yelled, how dare you not
know who she is? How dare you this is Logan?
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This isn't Arena. So you heard him say that and
reiterate that during his testimony when we come back, we're
gonna hear again the part that you could not hear.
We're gonna hear your to hear from Steve Federico give
it like a quick you know, a press conference statement.
At the press conference where it was only media only
media was there, and you're gonna hear from others as well.
(10:09):
So we're gonna talk about that when we return, And
don't forget I have a one on one exclusive interview
with Congressman Pat Harrigan when we returned. Welcome back to
Breaking with Brett Jensen on this Monday night. By the way,
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the Liberty Buick GMC text line is seven oh four five,
seven oh eleven ten. Okay, So you heard the testimony
in front of the entire public that Steve Federico gave.
He is a resident of Blaxaw. His daughter Logan was
brutally murdered four months ago, I believe back in May
in Columbia, South Carolina, while visiting the University of South
Carolina and some friends that were there, just horrific murder.
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So what you're going to hear now is after everyone
was gone, he spoke with the and then you're also
going to hear from Mia Alderman. She's the grandmother of
Mary Collins, who was just horrifically murdered. And I'm gonna
let you guys know right now, if you've got children
listening in the car or at home, you may not
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want to hear them. Let them hear this, because what
happens with Steve and Mia Altoman, Steve Federico and Mea Altoman,
they tell exactly what happened to their loved ones. And
it's a little graphic, but I just wanted to let
you know it may be disturbing to some younger people.
So here is the audio after the testimony strictly to
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the media during the press conference from Steve Federico.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hello everyone, my name is Steve Federica and I am
Logan Haley, Federico's father better known as Dad or Hero.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know you've heard that before, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
My daughter was visiting friends in South Carolina, which she
typically did at University of South Carolina. When you got
home one night, who it's a woken by somebody breaking
into the house and then forced on her knees while
naked with her hands up, begging for her life. This
offender named Alexander Davante Dickey had thirty nine criminal charges
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against them, twenty five of those were felonies. My daughter
pleaded for her life. He stuck a shotgun in her
left ribcage, underneath her left breast and pulled the trigger.
I was no longer logan federigos hero. I failed my
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daughter that night, and I came here today thinking that
I was going to talk about what had happened. Instead,
we talked about money from one side.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
We talked about.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Protection from other sides, which is exactly what we should
be talking about. More prison, longer prison terms. These repeat
offenders should never be on in the street. If Alexander
Dicky never met my daughter, he would have never been
on the street. If he was in prison since twenty
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sixteen twenty seventeen, he would have done at least fifteen
to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Years in prison.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But because soft crime from District five Byron Gibson and
his history, my daughter is dead and those counties Lexington, Richland,
they all have blood on their hands. I'm asking everyone
in Congress to help protect the innocent so I don't
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have to hear about stories about your kids going somewhere
and not coming home.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The last time I saw my daughter was on Wednesday.
That should never happen. She was my angel. She was
a good person. She figured out her a lot.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Because some hood bred convicted criminal decided he wanted her
debit card for two hundred and sixty nine dollars that
she gave up instantly. He executed my daughter, executed her.
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Imagine what Logan's life was the last minute thank you?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Okay. So that was Steve Fenderico And again this House
juda shary committee. Hearing was to talk about try and
find something that they can do to prevent criminals from
constantly being let back out on the streets, whether it's
cash list, bail sentences too light, like they had a
Bell bondsman there. They had Cmpdee officer that was injured
severely during the shootings on April twenty seventh, back in
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twenty twenty four where four law enforcement officers lost their life.
They had a lot of people there. This person now
is Mia Alderman. She is the grandmother of Mary Collins,
and she gave a brief This again not the testimony
that everyone heard. This is post testimony speaking only to
the media.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I wish I wasn't here. I wish I wasn't here
because Irania was brutally murdered and stabbed Aaron Charlotte. So
was Mary. Mary was stabbed over one hundred and thirty
three times, she was bled out in a bathtub, and
she was hidden in a mattress. We still don't have
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justice for Mary. There are so many twist and turns
in Mary's case that are just not right. I'm here
for Mary and Mary alone, no other reason, certainly not
political reasons. I'm here for Mary. I want justice for Mary,
and I don't want this to happen to other people ever.
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But Mary matters, and we need justice for her. It's
enough already, It's enough.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So again, that is me An Alderman again talking about
her granddaughter Mary, and when she says still hasn't received justice.
The people have been charged, they just haven't gone to trials,
haven't gone to trial. And I believe one of them,
if not both of them, or one of them is
currently out on bond. Stabbed, as you said, as she said,
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over one hundred and thirty times, and then stuffed in
a mattress to hide, try and hide. Now Here comes
Congresswoman Alma Adams Alma Adams represents the area where Arena
was killed and stabbed, and it took her forever to
make a statement. Okay, Well, you already heard about Deborah
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Ross misidentifying Logan Federico as that of Arena Zerutzka. Well,
here's Alma Adams trying to say the name of the
woman that was brutally murdered in her district, and a
woman's name who has been all over the world and
she can't get it right.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here's Alma, your granddaughter, your daughter, and for your colleagues
at the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department, and thank you for
your service there. I'd also like to extend my condolences
to the family and the friends of Arena Zaduska on
this tragic murder. It was senseless and certainly we're continuing
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to hold all of you in our prayers.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, so that is Congressman Alma Adams, who can't even
pronounce the name of Arena Zaritzka properly. Okay, when we
come back, we're going to hear some from the congressman
speak at the press conference, the things that you guys
did not get to hear, And then my interview with
Pat Harrigan, what about the franking book by Jensen on
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this Monday night, as I take you through the Judiciary
Committee hearing that took place at the Federal Courthouse today
in Charlotte, and there were protests outside, you know, signs
like Charlotte is safe and justice before politics and all
this stuff. I mean, that's fine. These were the same
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people that were holding the No King's Day rallies, many
of them, including the lady that was sitting next to me.
She found it hard to believe that that, you know,
when she was they were saying Charlotte's safe, and Adams
and all them trying to say, well, crime is much lower. Yeah,
but the crime stats they gave only are through June thirtieth.
(18:42):
The last three months there have been many, many, many murders.
I think, what just for last week, if I'm not mistaken,
don't forget the mass shooting in July. We're forgetting about that.
Like those crime sets that they gave did not include
Arena Zarutska. We are well well into the fifties and
not like actually into the sixties. I think we're in
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the six like at least to the fifties at this point.
But I think probably in the sixties. So I would
tell her that and there'd always be a snod comment
about it, and I'm like, okay, she was one hundred
percent pure anti ice and she used to work in taxes.
She was like an ex tax person, like of course,
like irs or something like that, and I'm like, of course.
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But now here's the press conference after the hearing. This
is the press conference. And the press conference again this
was not aired. So what you're going to hear are
the questions asked to some of the congressmen about the
hearing today and ask some questions. And so I asked
the very first question to Congressman David Rouser, who represents
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the Southport area where the mass shooting took place just
the other day. But here's my question to David Rouser,
PREMI browser.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Do you have a second Can you just talk about
you talking about this extent of eyes for fair enforcement?
Can you just go a little bit more in depth
about that. The sell se an eighteen million dollars security
deal for the transit system, but yet they didn't have security.
They don't check fair enforcements.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So can you go into greater detail about that?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Well, fair enforcement is a universal problem. It's a specific
problem here in Charlotte. We'll be looking at ways to
incentivize fair enforcement. That might be dollars, that might be
policy positions. We we'll just have to see. But it's
high on the radar and we're going to do something.
That's all I can tell you right now, and keeping
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myself out of trouble you.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
After your time of speaker, I was wondered if me ask.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You why you did to cash spail reform or natural
reform when you were one of the colorful politicians in
the stage.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
We actually passed the legislation to deal with that. We
also to make it more difficult for courts to put
in place cash and spell We also passed what's called
the Victim's Rights of Amendment to our Victim's Right Amendment
to our state constitution. That actually gave a lot more
rights to victims in the state. That has helped a lot.
But what we found is that even though we passed that,
you still have problems, particularly in the same couple of counties.
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And I would talk with law enforcement officials throughout this
entire state and they would tell me without the two
counties I would hear about, would be Durham County and
Mecklenburg County over and over again. I can tell you
that some of the changes that we made to state
law about judges, where we started creating special superior court
judges that could come in and could be appointed by
the legislature that tended to be more conservative. Trying to
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send some of those judges into these urban areas where
they had more liberal judges has been something that's there,
but it's been a problem at the state level. Again,
that's the old job. We were kind of playing whack
them all with it all the time. And I'm sure
here's the deal, even with the new law that this
legislature has just passed, once it goes into place, if
you don't put the right folks in office, if you
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keep liberal judges in place, liberal matchs in place, they'll
find other ways to work around it. And that's why
it's important to raise this for transparency, so that the
voters ultimately know what the effect is of some of
these elected judges.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Preparation this hearing, did you hear from the mayor or
any of our little traditional officials any want to reach
out to you about that.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
I did speak with some local folks that are not
here right in this room, but especially folks that are
working on the transit system, and as you know, there's
a big referendum coming up on the transit system, and
they seem to have a really positive outlook. They want
to make it. They want to make it better, they
want to make it even safer, they want to expand
the business community. Charlotte is a beautiful place, you know.
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I come from southern New Jersey. We have a lot
of tourism. It's really pretty, but Charlotte's a beautiful place
as well, and they can do amazing things. Those were
the main people we I individually interacted with. My understanding
is the mayor, although a Democrat, is willing to comply
and work along with others to get that done and
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to work with folks to make the street to say
for it shouldn't be this way.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Is more in that how you shoot both those before
is training task that there is concerns about le CID
you a radius.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
Well, one of the things that's a part of this
will also be more law enforcement with the transit plan.
And I do think that the new transit plan the
way it was adopted and we didn't pass it when
I was there because until they until we got the
percentage that needed to be there for road funding, I
wasn't going to let it move. When they finally agreed
to do the you know, sixty percent for roads, that's
when it that's when it started moving forward. But they've
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made it. They've made it very clear that a key
part of this is going to be funding additional law
enforcement as well. And I think the fair enforcement's very
important too so and also the regional approach that this
is more than just Charlotte, it's this entire region that's
involved is going to be helpful and I think it's
going to make it a model that'll be sustained.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Cover Spore. Can you talk about your meeting or conversations
with Preu family?
Speaker 10 (23:53):
So I spoke, Yes, I spoke with her her uncle
once or twice now and just you know, it's it's
one of those things like when we have the testimony today,
I just you don't even know what to say sometimes,
but it is, uh, the story he told me about her.
Of course she had, she had fled war torn Ukraine.
She had she's got I believe that her mother's here.
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She has a couple of siblings who were here. Uh,
they actually live outside of Charlotte, but here in the county,
live in my district. And that the tragic story of
someone who fled a nation. As as Congressman Harrigan said,
she was safer in Ukraine than she was here. I mean,
it just it's it blows your mind. But she had
she was working I think two or three jobs, and
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I think she had just saved up enough money to
be able to afford a car, and then this happens.
It's just so senseless. But at the end of the day,
this guy who killed her should have been in prison. Again,
we talked about the fact that he was released on
bond on this particular charge. Right, a couple of a
couple of problems. One when he presented as he was
on the on the charge he was released. There was enough,
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as I understand, we could have been and in voluntarily committed,
in which case he would have been in a facility,
we'd have been in a lock and he couldn't have
gotten out. But let's go back even further. Why was
a guy who was clearly dangerous and a convicted felon,
why was this guy on the street where he was
out there?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Roma ran and here's the other question.
Speaker 10 (25:17):
How many more of these folks are on the street
right now today that should be incarcerated. And that's the
other question, and that's why this committee is taking this
so seriously.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So that is Congressman Tim Moore, who's been on my
show many many times. You also heard from me ask
David Rows of the congressman down east near the South
Part area. And then you also heard the gentleman from
South New Jersey, Jeff Van Drew, speak about you know
what local officials that he had spoken to, you know.
And it's at one point the Democrat lady's sitting next
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to me, hard core Democrat, by the way, hardcore, like
I said, hate size all the above. When one of
the ways, Mia Alderman, the grandmother of Mary Collins, somebody
who asked her a congress person asked her about the murders,
and she's about Sharlotte being safe. She said, it feels
like every day there's another murder. You wake up to
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another murder. And this hardcore Democrat woman to retire tax
lady scoffed, she goes huh, And I leaned over to
her and I said, well, actually there's two murders every
single week. Every week there are two murders. And she
just didn't say anything after that for a little bit
until she starts scoffing and making little snider and rude
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comments later on with other congress members. Okay, when we
come back, my exclusive one on one interview with Congressman
Pat Harrigan after the hearing. After the press conference, I
was able to, you know, get together with him and
you know, get into a private room and ask him
some questions about the hearing today. So that's coming up next.
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We're going back to breaking with Brett Jensen on this
Monday night. So immediately after the press conference, I was
able to go into a back room area and be
able to talk to Congressman Pat Harrigan privately and do
a one on one interview, exclusive interview as a matter
of fact, and was the only one to be able
to do that. So here is my one on one
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interview shortly after the press conference with Congressman Pat Harrigan.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Even though I know your district borders up next to
Micklamare County, but what specifically wanted to make you part
of this?
Speaker 12 (27:35):
When I saw Irena Zuritska get brutally murdered on that
train in Charlotte, young gal, her entire life ahead of her,
minding her own business, and just viciously attacked by somebody
that should have been in jail. He'd been arrested fourteen
times before that, and some of them for violent offenses.
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I just saw in Irena. I saw my daughters. I
got two daughters, they're six and eight, and you know
it's not too terribly far in the future that they're
going to be twenty somethings and might be on that
exact same train, in that exact same situation, minding their
own business and just get taken from this world. That's
not the world that I want my kids growing up in.
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That's not the world that I want anyone else's kids
or grandkids to grow up in. The fact of the
matter is is that Irena was genuinely safer and more
torn Ukraine than she was here in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And that's unacceptable on every level.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
And I don't mean to bring this up or pride,
but during your testimony today you got emotional, then during
the when you're talking about your daughters, and then earlier
today when you're doing the press conference talking about your
daughters again. You got emotional again. So it's easy to
see that this is very personal for you.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
When you come in here and you listen to the victims'
families and the statements that they have about what their
daughter's deaths meant to them, it is absolutely gut wrenching
and it's unimaginable to even be in their situation. And
I couldn't even imagine trying to change the system that
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allowed it to happen, because they've got to feel like
they're just banging their heads against the walls with these
failed democratic policies that we know are failed policies. They're
leading us down the road to failed outcomes. They're prioritizing
criminals over victims, and we just simply systematically allow it
to continue. And you just can't conceive of a nation
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that could allow this to happen. I can't conceive of
my daughters growing up in a nation that would allow
this to happen ten or fifteen years from now. And
you just feel for the families because they're just there's
nothing that they can do. What's done is done, and
it's been done because we allow violent criminals back on
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this without having any accountability. I mean, the law of
the land in democratic run cities is that we prioritize
criminals over victims, over innocent American citizens, and that's not
the way that it should be. They're trying their very best.
They're doing something that's got to be emotionally unimaginable to
come tell this story over and over again and do
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it publicly. But they're doing it because they don't want
families to have the same experience that they have had.
They don't want other families to lose their daughters, lose
their granddaughters. That's not what this country has ever been about.
But violent crime is through the roof, and we've got
to fix it. We have enough police to fix it.
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We have police that are doing their jobs. I mean
this de Carlos Brown Junior was arrested fourteen times. The
murderer that killed Logan Federica was arrested thirty nine times.
Twenty five of those were felonies in just a ten
year span. I mean, that guy should have been in
jail for the rest of his life, but he was out.
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He was allowed to kill. These are preventable tragedies. We
have to learn from them, and we've got to fix
the system.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Cashless bill is a big topic today. What can the
federal government do about cashless bill when they're generally state issues.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Is it just withholding.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Funding or what can you guys do because you guys
talked about it a lot today, but what can you
do to try and eradicate cashless bail?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Yeah, Look, we always want to be very cognizant of
Tenth Amendment issues and what belongs to the state should
be executed by the state. That being said, yes, we
absolutely have power of the purse and can withhold certain
funds if certain circumstances aren't met. Moving forward, because we
see that this is a common problem that has patterned
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itself all over the country, particularly in our cities which
are democratic led and they've tried to eliminate bail altogether,
that whole concept of cashless bail that has led to
violence on our streets. If you don't hold criminals accountable,
they are going to commit offenses. It really is that simple,
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and we've got to put a stop to it. Whatever
strings that we have the ability to pull, we're going
to work together in the federal government to pull them.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Last question here with the Congressman Pat Harrigan, Is there
anything and I always do this with you and every
other person, is there anything that you'd like to say
to the listeners right now, maybe something that I haven't
asked you about, or just a statement you'd like to make.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
You know, I would just say that today in the committee,
we had both of the Democratic congresswomen that were participating
in the committee both mispronounce and failed to recognize the
victims today, both Irena Zarutzka as well as Logan Federica.
And one of them said Zetuska and the other one
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confused pictures of Logan and Irena. And to me, I
think we're just in a place and I don't mean
this to sound like I'm just scoring political points. Democrat
policies have led to so much crime and so many
victims that they can't even keep their name straight. And
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I think that's a very real problem in our country.
We've got to fix that.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Congressman Harrigan, thank you three times today.
Speaker 12 (33:15):
Thank you very much, Brett.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Always great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So again, that is Congressman Pat Harrigan, who afforded me
the opportunity to do a one on one exclusive interview
with him today at the Federal Courthouse shortly after the
press conference and the and the hearings and everything else.
It's it was an interesting day. It was an emotional day,
full of anger, full of hatred, full of sadness, full
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of just, I guess, disgusted, and sympathy and empathy. And
then of course for the lady sitting beside me, it
was all just to rip the Republicans every chance they
got about crime or trying to make fun of the
Republicans because they were anti crime, and that's that's what
she did. And it got to the point it was
so bad with her. I actually wrote down all the
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things that she was saying, depending on who was speaking,
and just because it was unbelievable what she was saying.
But yeah, as a matter of fact, they didn't even
believe the fact when their officer for CMPD said, yeah,
by the time, before we even finished filling out all
the reports, the criminals back on the streets, and they're like,
and they scoffed, and I said, no, that literally happens.
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A kid can bring a gun to school and is
back at home a couple of hours later in the
house of his parents. So again a lot going on there,
all right, don't forget by the way, coming up shortly,
we're gonna have the UNC Coaches Show. And you know,
there wasn't a game this past weekend with North Carolina,
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but at the same point it was it was probably
a much needed time off. But again, let me get
back to this real quick. Let me get back. I
don't mean to jump off, but I'm just letting you know.
That's what's coming up next, this the hearing. If you're interested,
go listen to that. All of us online. All of
it's online now, I will tell you it was about
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two and a half hours. It was about two and
a half hours online, but it's all over YouTube. You
can watch it and you can see what every person spoke.
A lot of them had some really really good things
to say. There were some arguments between Chuck Edwards and
Alma Adams. They got into a big time today. Chuck
Edwards basically was like, wasn't gonna take it. He represents
Western North Carolina congressman. So a lot of good things
(35:28):
from there. All right, So here's what's gonna happen North Carolina.
The UNC Coaches Show is coming up next, and right
after that, after the Coaches Show, we'll go to our
regular programming, but until tomorrow night. Everyone, have a great night.
My name is Brett Jenson and you have been listening
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And if you'd been following me on X you would
have seen me posting things live from the House Judiciary
Committee hearing. Is the at the Federal Courthouse today where
it was. There wasn't an empty seat in the house.
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They stopped letting people in. There were protests outside, just
a lot of people there. And I will tell you,
you know a lot of the people that were out
of some of the people, not a lot, but some
of the people that were outside protesting against Republicans, against
saying Charlotte's a very safe city, you know whatever. They
some of them were inside and one happened to actually
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be sitting next to me, but and was making comments
throughout the entire hearing, basically every time a Republicans spoke,
but nonetheless it was it was a she you know,
look she had her little protest shirt on, and you know,
you know, had the look of a retired Democrat. I
mean they did. And so the entire time was making
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comments and I wrote a lot of them down just
because you know, it just it showed me what she
thought about you know, justice and how all this was
overblown and none of this was necessary. And look, the reason,
make no mistake about it, the reason they're in Charlot
is because the arena is the risk of stuff. Make
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no mistake about it. You know, they're not necessarily I
mean they're they they a lot of the Democrats are
outside that we're protesting are for cash list bail. They
think it hurts the poor. They think having to make
people pay for their train tickets a dollar seventy five
or two dollars hurts the poor. But in the in
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the testimonies today, and we're going to get through a
lot of this stuff, and we got Pat Harrigan. I
got a one on one exclusive interview with Congressman Pat
Harrigan after the hearings. He was there today as well,
but what I'm going to do is we're going to
play a lot of audio today, some things that you
absolutely could not hear unless you are one of the
media members there because a lot of this was not
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played on on all the websites and all the YouTube channels.
The first audio that you're gonna hear is the one
that's being made famous, but you're only hearing little sound
bits of it. You're gonna hear the entire coming up
right here is the entire audio of Steve Federico. He
is the father of Logan. They live in Waxaw. His
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daughter was brutally and horrifically murdered in Columbia while visiting friends.
So I'm just gonna let you hear. Here is Steve
Federco in his testimony to the House judahar A Committee.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
How about of y'all have kids. I'm just curious. Here's
what I need you to do when I tell you
this story. Think about your kids. Think about your child
coming home from a night out with their friends, laying down,
going to sleep, feeling somebody come in the room and
wake them and drag her out of bed naked, forced
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on her knees with her hands over her.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Head, begging for her life, beg you for her hero,
her father me that couldn't be there.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
She was five foot three, she weighed one hundred and
fifteen pounds.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Bang, what I want to do, and I'm stopping the
audio right here. What I'm going to do is let
you know that coming up in the next couple of
seconds is some language that some of you might not appreciate.
It's not against FCC rules, but I'm letting you know
there's some strong language getting ready to come up in
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the testimony.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Go ahead, Isaac dead gone.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Why because Alexander Devonte Dickey, who was arrested thirty nine
goddamn times twenty five felonies, was on the street. How
about that? How good are we doing for our family?
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How good are you doing for your kids? He should
have been in jail for over one hundred and forty
years for all the crimes he committed. You know how
much time he's spent in prison, a little over six
hundred days in ten years. He's only thirty years old.
He was committing two point sixty five crimes a year
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since he was fifteen years old. But nobody could figure
out that he couldn't be rehabilitated. Well, you'd have to
put him in prison to see if he could be rehabilitated.
Isn't that the idea of prison? But no, my daughter
wanted to be a teacher. She finally figured it out
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two weeks before she was executed. And I haven't heard
a damn word from Byron Gibson in South Carolina, not
one word, four.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Months, no communication.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
His biggest concern was that he was pissed off about
my interview and how I made him look on the
Fox News channel with Trey Gowdi. How pathetic is that
now we're letting our twenty two year old kid visiting friends.
It's all she ever wanted to do is visit friends.
And she literally was executed while on her knees.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Begging for her life.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Her name's logan Federico, not irena, and you will not
forget her.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You will be sick and tired of my face and
my voice until this gets fixed. I will fight until
my last breath for my daughter. You need to fight
for the rest of our children, the rest of the innocents,
and stop protecting the people that keep taking them from us. Please,
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you have the power. We put you in the power
to do what you have to do. We're asking you,
We're begging you all to stop this. Thirty nine crimes
in ten years, twenty five felonies. Can anybody there here
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explain to me, well, how possibly he could be on
the street, possibly be on the street.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
How is it possible?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I could sit down a room and I can explain
the whole process I have it failed? How South Carolina failed? Logan, Okay,
how lack of communication? What y'all did? You woke up
a beast and you pissed off the wrong daddy? Because
I'm going to put it out there and I'm not
going to be quiet until somebody helps. Logan deserves to
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be heard. Everyone on this panel deserves to be heard,
and we will trust me. My daughter laid on the
floor for seven hours before somebody in that house recognized
that something was wrong and that curer criminal an hour
later went on a spending spree with her debit card.
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When they saw his face on a video, they didn't
have to do a check. He was arrested so many times.
I knew who he was, They knew exactly where to
go get him. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic that I'm here today
thank you for your time.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Okay, So just before he spoke, you know there are
all these congress people there. You know, there were three
congress women, one Republican and two Democrats. The two Democrats
were from North Carolina, Deborah Ross, who represents the Wake
County area and of course Alma Adams, where Arena Zaruska
(09:00):
was murdered in her district and took forever and ever
and ever to even make a statement or a comment
about it, even though it was in her district. Earlier,
when the hearing just started, Deborah Ross, the Democrat out
of Wake County, misidentified Logan Federico. She thought the picture
of Logan was that of and her father, Steve Fenderica
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was holding a picture. She thought it was Arena Zarutska.
Well before the hearing started, or right after it started,
I should say, before the testimonies. He ripped into her sideways.
Steve Fiederrico ripped into Deborah Ross sideways and rightly so,
and actually at one point yelled, how dare you not
know who she is? How dare you this is Logan?
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This isn't Arena. So you heard him say that and
reiterate that during his testimony when we come back, we're
gonna hear again the part that you could not hear.
We're gonna hear your to hear from Steve Federico give
it like a quick you know, a press conference statement.
At the press conference where it was only media only
media was there, and you're gonna hear from others as well.
(10:09):
So we're gonna talk about that when we return, And
don't forget I have a one on one exclusive interview
with Congressman Pat Harrigan when we returned. Welcome back to
Breaking with Brett Jensen on this Monday night. By the way,
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the Liberty Buick GMC text line is seven oh four five,
seven oh eleven ten. Okay, So you heard the testimony
in front of the entire public that Steve Federico gave.
He is a resident of Blaxaw. His daughter Logan was
brutally murdered four months ago, I believe back in May
in Columbia, South Carolina, while visiting the University of South
Carolina and some friends that were there, just horrific murder.
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So what you're going to hear now is after everyone
was gone, he spoke with the and then you're also
going to hear from Mia Alderman. She's the grandmother of
Mary Collins, who was just horrifically murdered. And I'm gonna
let you guys know right now, if you've got children
listening in the car or at home, you may not
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want to hear them. Let them hear this, because what
happens with Steve and Mia Altoman, Steve Federico and Mea Altoman,
they tell exactly what happened to their loved ones. And
it's a little graphic, but I just wanted to let
you know it may be disturbing to some younger people.
So here is the audio after the testimony strictly to
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the media during the press conference from Steve Federico.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hello everyone, my name is Steve Federica and I am
Logan Haley, Federico's father better known as Dad or Hero.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I know you've heard that before, but it's the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
My daughter was visiting friends in South Carolina, which she
typically did at University of South Carolina. When you got
home one night, who it's a woken by somebody breaking
into the house and then forced on her knees while
naked with her hands up, begging for her life. This
offender named Alexander Davante Dickey had thirty nine criminal charges
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against them, twenty five of those were felonies. My daughter
pleaded for her life. He stuck a shotgun in her
left ribcage, underneath her left breast and pulled the trigger.
I was no longer logan federigos hero. I failed my
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daughter that night, and I came here today thinking that
I was going to talk about what had happened. Instead,
we talked about money from one side.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
We talked about.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Protection from other sides, which is exactly what we should
be talking about. More prison, longer prison terms. These repeat
offenders should never be on in the street. If Alexander
Dicky never met my daughter, he would have never been
on the street. If he was in prison since twenty
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sixteen twenty seventeen, he would have done at least fifteen
to twenty five.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Years in prison.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
But because soft crime from District five Byron Gibson and
his history, my daughter is dead and those counties Lexington, Richland,
they all have blood on their hands. I'm asking everyone
in Congress to help protect the innocent so I don't
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have to hear about stories about your kids going somewhere
and not coming home.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
The last time I saw my daughter was on Wednesday.
That should never happen. She was my angel. She was
a good person. She figured out her a lot.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Because some hood bred convicted criminal decided he wanted her
debit card for two hundred and sixty nine dollars that
she gave up instantly. He executed my daughter, executed her.
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Imagine what Logan's life was the last minute thank you?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Okay. So that was Steve Fenderico And again this House
juda shary committee. Hearing was to talk about try and
find something that they can do to prevent criminals from
constantly being let back out on the streets, whether it's
cash list, bail sentences too light, like they had a
Bell bondsman there. They had Cmpdee officer that was injured
severely during the shootings on April twenty seventh, back in
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twenty twenty four where four law enforcement officers lost their life.
They had a lot of people there. This person now
is Mia Alderman. She is the grandmother of Mary Collins,
and she gave a brief This again not the testimony
that everyone heard. This is post testimony speaking only to
the media.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I wish I wasn't here. I wish I wasn't here
because Irania was brutally murdered and stabbed Aaron Charlotte. So
was Mary. Mary was stabbed over one hundred and thirty
three times, she was bled out in a bathtub, and
she was hidden in a mattress. We still don't have
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justice for Mary. There are so many twist and turns
in Mary's case that are just not right. I'm here
for Mary and Mary alone, no other reason, certainly not
political reasons. I'm here for Mary. I want justice for Mary,
and I don't want this to happen to other people ever.
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But Mary matters, and we need justice for her. It's
enough already, It's enough.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
So again, that is me An Alderman again talking about
her granddaughter Mary, and when she says still hasn't received justice.
The people have been charged, they just haven't gone to trials,
haven't gone to trial. And I believe one of them,
if not both of them, or one of them is
currently out on bond. Stabbed, as you said, as she said,
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over one hundred and thirty times, and then stuffed in
a mattress to hide, try and hide. Now Here comes
Congresswoman Alma Adams Alma Adams represents the area where Arena
was killed and stabbed, and it took her forever to
make a statement. Okay, Well, you already heard about Deborah
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Ross misidentifying Logan Federico as that of Arena Zerutzka. Well,
here's Alma Adams trying to say the name of the
woman that was brutally murdered in her district, and a
woman's name who has been all over the world and
she can't get it right.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Here's Alma, your granddaughter, your daughter, and for your colleagues
at the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department, and thank you for
your service there. I'd also like to extend my condolences
to the family and the friends of Arena Zaduska on
this tragic murder. It was senseless and certainly we're continuing
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to hold all of you in our prayers.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, so that is Congressman Alma Adams, who can't even
pronounce the name of Arena Zaritzka properly. Okay, when we
come back, we're going to hear some from the congressman
speak at the press conference, the things that you guys
did not get to hear, And then my interview with
Pat Harrigan, what about the franking book by Jensen on
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this Monday night, as I take you through the Judiciary
Committee hearing that took place at the Federal Courthouse today
in Charlotte, and there were protests outside, you know, signs
like Charlotte is safe and justice before politics and all
this stuff. I mean, that's fine. These were the same
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people that were holding the No King's Day rallies, many
of them, including the lady that was sitting next to me.
She found it hard to believe that that, you know,
when she was they were saying Charlotte's safe, and Adams
and all them trying to say, well, crime is much lower. Yeah,
but the crime stats they gave only are through June thirtieth.
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The last three months there have been many, many, many murders.
I think, what just for last week, if I'm not mistaken,
don't forget the mass shooting in July. We're forgetting about that.
Like those crime sets that they gave did not include
Arena Zarutska. We are well well into the fifties and
not like actually into the sixties. I think we're in
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the six like at least to the fifties at this point.
But I think probably in the sixties. So I would
tell her that and there'd always be a snod comment
about it, and I'm like, okay, she was one hundred
percent pure anti ice and she used to work in taxes.
She was like an ex tax person, like of course,
like irs or something like that, and I'm like, of course.
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But now here's the press conference after the hearing. This
is the press conference. And the press conference again this
was not aired. So what you're going to hear are
the questions asked to some of the congressmen about the
hearing today and ask some questions. And so I asked
the very first question to Congressman David Rouser, who represents
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the Southport area where the mass shooting took place just
the other day. But here's my question to David Rouser,
PREMI browser.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Do you have a second Can you just talk about
you talking about this extent of eyes for fair enforcement?
Can you just go a little bit more in depth
about that. The sell se an eighteen million dollars security
deal for the transit system, but yet they didn't have security.
They don't check fair enforcements.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So can you go into greater detail about that?
Speaker 9 (20:13):
Well, fair enforcement is a universal problem. It's a specific
problem here in Charlotte. We'll be looking at ways to
incentivize fair enforcement. That might be dollars, that might be
policy positions. We we'll just have to see. But it's
high on the radar and we're going to do something.
That's all I can tell you right now, and keeping
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myself out of trouble you.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
After your time of speaker, I was wondered if me ask.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You why you did to cash spail reform or natural
reform when you were one of the colorful politicians in
the stage.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
We actually passed the legislation to deal with that. We
also to make it more difficult for courts to put
in place cash and spell We also passed what's called
the Victim's Rights of Amendment to our Victim's Right Amendment
to our state constitution. That actually gave a lot more
rights to victims in the state. That has helped a lot.
But what we found is that even though we passed that,
you still have problems, particularly in the same couple of counties.
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And I would talk with law enforcement officials throughout this
entire state and they would tell me without the two
counties I would hear about, would be Durham County and
Mecklenburg County over and over again. I can tell you
that some of the changes that we made to state
law about judges, where we started creating special superior court
judges that could come in and could be appointed by
the legislature that tended to be more conservative. Trying to
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send some of those judges into these urban areas where
they had more liberal judges has been something that's there,
but it's been a problem at the state level. Again,
that's the old job. We were kind of playing whack
them all with it all the time. And I'm sure
here's the deal, even with the new law that this
legislature has just passed, once it goes into place, if
you don't put the right folks in office, if you
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keep liberal judges in place, liberal matchs in place, they'll
find other ways to work around it. And that's why
it's important to raise this for transparency, so that the
voters ultimately know what the effect is of some of
these elected judges.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Preparation this hearing, did you hear from the mayor or
any of our little traditional officials any want to reach
out to you about that.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
I did speak with some local folks that are not
here right in this room, but especially folks that are
working on the transit system, and as you know, there's
a big referendum coming up on the transit system, and
they seem to have a really positive outlook. They want
to make it. They want to make it better, they
want to make it even safer, they want to expand
the business community. Charlotte is a beautiful place, you know.
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I come from southern New Jersey. We have a lot
of tourism. It's really pretty, but Charlotte's a beautiful place
as well, and they can do amazing things. Those were
the main people we I individually interacted with. My understanding
is the mayor, although a Democrat, is willing to comply
and work along with others to get that done and
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to work with folks to make the street to say
for it shouldn't be this way.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Is more in that how you shoot both those before
is training task that there is concerns about le CID
you a radius.
Speaker 10 (23:10):
Well, one of the things that's a part of this
will also be more law enforcement with the transit plan.
And I do think that the new transit plan the
way it was adopted and we didn't pass it when
I was there because until they until we got the
percentage that needed to be there for road funding, I
wasn't going to let it move. When they finally agreed
to do the you know, sixty percent for roads, that's
when it that's when it started moving forward. But they've
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made it. They've made it very clear that a key
part of this is going to be funding additional law
enforcement as well. And I think the fair enforcement's very
important too so and also the regional approach that this
is more than just Charlotte, it's this entire region that's
involved is going to be helpful and I think it's
going to make it a model that'll be sustained.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Cover Spore. Can you talk about your meeting or conversations
with Preu family?
Speaker 10 (23:53):
So I spoke, Yes, I spoke with her her uncle
once or twice now and just you know, it's it's
one of those things like when we have the testimony today,
I just you don't even know what to say sometimes,
but it is, uh, the story he told me about her.
Of course she had, she had fled war torn Ukraine.
She had she's got I believe that her mother's here.
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She has a couple of siblings who were here. Uh,
they actually live outside of Charlotte, but here in the county,
live in my district. And that the tragic story of
someone who fled a nation. As as Congressman Harrigan said,
she was safer in Ukraine than she was here. I mean,
it just it's it blows your mind. But she had
she was working I think two or three jobs, and
(24:37):
I think she had just saved up enough money to
be able to afford a car, and then this happens.
It's just so senseless. But at the end of the day,
this guy who killed her should have been in prison. Again,
we talked about the fact that he was released on
bond on this particular charge. Right, a couple of a
couple of problems. One when he presented as he was
on the on the charge he was released. There was enough,
(24:58):
as I understand, we could have been and in voluntarily committed,
in which case he would have been in a facility,
we'd have been in a lock and he couldn't have
gotten out. But let's go back even further. Why was
a guy who was clearly dangerous and a convicted felon,
why was this guy on the street where he was
out there?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Roma ran and here's the other question.
Speaker 10 (25:17):
How many more of these folks are on the street
right now today that should be incarcerated. And that's the
other question, and that's why this committee is taking this
so seriously.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
So that is Congressman Tim Moore, who's been on my
show many many times. You also heard from me ask
David Rows of the congressman down east near the South
Part area. And then you also heard the gentleman from
South New Jersey, Jeff Van Drew, speak about you know
what local officials that he had spoken to, you know.
And it's at one point the Democrat lady's sitting next
(25:52):
to me, hard core Democrat, by the way, hardcore, like
I said, hate size all the above. When one of
the ways, Mia Alderman, the grandmother of Mary Collins, somebody
who asked her a congress person asked her about the murders,
and she's about Sharlotte being safe. She said, it feels
like every day there's another murder. You wake up to
(26:14):
another murder. And this hardcore Democrat woman to retire tax
lady scoffed, she goes huh, And I leaned over to
her and I said, well, actually there's two murders every
single week. Every week there are two murders. And she
just didn't say anything after that for a little bit
until she starts scoffing and making little snider and rude
(26:37):
comments later on with other congress members. Okay, when we
come back, my exclusive one on one interview with Congressman
Pat Harrigan after the hearing. After the press conference, I
was able to, you know, get together with him and
you know, get into a private room and ask him
some questions about the hearing today. So that's coming up next.
(27:04):
We're going back to breaking with Brett Jensen on this
Monday night. So immediately after the press conference, I was
able to go into a back room area and be
able to talk to Congressman Pat Harrigan privately and do
a one on one interview, exclusive interview as a matter
of fact, and was the only one to be able
to do that. So here is my one on one
(27:25):
interview shortly after the press conference with Congressman Pat Harrigan.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
Even though I know your district borders up next to
Micklamare County, but what specifically wanted to make you part
of this?
Speaker 12 (27:35):
When I saw Irena Zuritska get brutally murdered on that
train in Charlotte, young gal, her entire life ahead of her,
minding her own business, and just viciously attacked by somebody
that should have been in jail. He'd been arrested fourteen
times before that, and some of them for violent offenses.
(28:00):
I just saw in Irena. I saw my daughters. I
got two daughters, they're six and eight, and you know
it's not too terribly far in the future that they're
going to be twenty somethings and might be on that
exact same train, in that exact same situation, minding their
own business and just get taken from this world. That's
not the world that I want my kids growing up in.
(28:21):
That's not the world that I want anyone else's kids
or grandkids to grow up in. The fact of the
matter is is that Irena was genuinely safer and more
torn Ukraine than she was here in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And that's unacceptable on every level.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
And I don't mean to bring this up or pride,
but during your testimony today you got emotional, then during
the when you're talking about your daughters, and then earlier
today when you're doing the press conference talking about your
daughters again. You got emotional again. So it's easy to
see that this is very personal for you.
Speaker 12 (28:55):
When you come in here and you listen to the victims'
families and the statements that they have about what their
daughter's deaths meant to them, it is absolutely gut wrenching
and it's unimaginable to even be in their situation. And
I couldn't even imagine trying to change the system that
(29:17):
allowed it to happen, because they've got to feel like
they're just banging their heads against the walls with these
failed democratic policies that we know are failed policies. They're
leading us down the road to failed outcomes. They're prioritizing
criminals over victims, and we just simply systematically allow it
to continue. And you just can't conceive of a nation
(29:39):
that could allow this to happen. I can't conceive of
my daughters growing up in a nation that would allow
this to happen ten or fifteen years from now. And
you just feel for the families because they're just there's
nothing that they can do. What's done is done, and
it's been done because we allow violent criminals back on
(29:59):
this without having any accountability. I mean, the law of
the land in democratic run cities is that we prioritize
criminals over victims, over innocent American citizens, and that's not
the way that it should be. They're trying their very best.
They're doing something that's got to be emotionally unimaginable to
come tell this story over and over again and do
(30:21):
it publicly. But they're doing it because they don't want
families to have the same experience that they have had.
They don't want other families to lose their daughters, lose
their granddaughters. That's not what this country has ever been about.
But violent crime is through the roof, and we've got
to fix it. We have enough police to fix it.
(30:42):
We have police that are doing their jobs. I mean
this de Carlos Brown Junior was arrested fourteen times. The
murderer that killed Logan Federica was arrested thirty nine times.
Twenty five of those were felonies in just a ten
year span. I mean, that guy should have been in
jail for the rest of his life, but he was out.
(31:02):
He was allowed to kill. These are preventable tragedies. We
have to learn from them, and we've got to fix
the system.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Cashless bill is a big topic today. What can the
federal government do about cashless bill when they're generally state issues.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Is it just withholding.
Speaker 8 (31:18):
Funding or what can you guys do because you guys
talked about it a lot today, but what can you
do to try and eradicate cashless bail?
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Yeah, Look, we always want to be very cognizant of
Tenth Amendment issues and what belongs to the state should
be executed by the state. That being said, yes, we
absolutely have power of the purse and can withhold certain
funds if certain circumstances aren't met. Moving forward, because we
see that this is a common problem that has patterned
(31:46):
itself all over the country, particularly in our cities which
are democratic led and they've tried to eliminate bail altogether,
that whole concept of cashless bail that has led to
violence on our streets. If you don't hold criminals accountable,
they are going to commit offenses. It really is that simple,
(32:06):
and we've got to put a stop to it. Whatever
strings that we have the ability to pull, we're going
to work together in the federal government to pull them.
Speaker 8 (32:13):
Last question here with the Congressman Pat Harrigan, Is there
anything and I always do this with you and every
other person, is there anything that you'd like to say
to the listeners right now, maybe something that I haven't
asked you about, or just a statement you'd like to make.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
You know, I would just say that today in the committee,
we had both of the Democratic congresswomen that were participating
in the committee both mispronounce and failed to recognize the
victims today, both Irena Zarutzka as well as Logan Federica.
And one of them said Zetuska and the other one
(32:48):
confused pictures of Logan and Irena. And to me, I
think we're just in a place and I don't mean
this to sound like I'm just scoring political points. Democrat
policies have led to so much crime and so many
victims that they can't even keep their name straight. And
(33:09):
I think that's a very real problem in our country.
We've got to fix that.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Congressman Harrigan, thank you three times today.
Speaker 12 (33:15):
Thank you very much, Brett.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Always great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
So again, that is Congressman Pat Harrigan, who afforded me
the opportunity to do a one on one exclusive interview
with him today at the Federal Courthouse shortly after the
press conference and the and the hearings and everything else.
It's it was an interesting day. It was an emotional day,
full of anger, full of hatred, full of sadness, full
(33:43):
of just, I guess, disgusted, and sympathy and empathy. And
then of course for the lady sitting beside me, it
was all just to rip the Republicans every chance they
got about crime or trying to make fun of the
Republicans because they were anti crime, and that's that's what
she did. And it got to the point it was
so bad with her. I actually wrote down all the
(34:04):
things that she was saying, depending on who was speaking,
and just because it was unbelievable what she was saying.
But yeah, as a matter of fact, they didn't even
believe the fact when their officer for CMPD said, yeah,
by the time, before we even finished filling out all
the reports, the criminals back on the streets, and they're like,
and they scoffed, and I said, no, that literally happens.
(34:27):
A kid can bring a gun to school and is
back at home a couple of hours later in the
house of his parents. So again a lot going on there,
all right, don't forget by the way, coming up shortly,
we're gonna have the UNC Coaches Show. And you know,
there wasn't a game this past weekend with North Carolina,
(34:47):
but at the same point it was it was probably
a much needed time off. But again, let me get
back to this real quick. Let me get back. I
don't mean to jump off, but I'm just letting you know.
That's what's coming up next, this the hearing. If you're interested,
go listen to that. All of us online. All of
it's online now, I will tell you it was about
(35:08):
two and a half hours. It was about two and
a half hours online, but it's all over YouTube. You
can watch it and you can see what every person spoke.
A lot of them had some really really good things
to say. There were some arguments between Chuck Edwards and
Alma Adams. They got into a big time today. Chuck
Edwards basically was like, wasn't gonna take it. He represents
Western North Carolina congressman. So a lot of good things
(35:28):
from there. All right, So here's what's gonna happen North Carolina.
The UNC Coaches Show is coming up next, and right
after that, after the Coaches Show, we'll go to our
regular programming, but until tomorrow night. Everyone, have a great night.
My name is Brett Jenson and you have been listening
to Breaking with Brett Jenson.
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