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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He ain't ship, he ain't.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm like, oh my god, get off my pastor's nutsat.
I used to work in a megachurch. I've seen a
lot of nasty things.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I definitely hate pastors who take advantage of women in there.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I hate that.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Or boys, these leaders that are watching their people die.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
They are filthy rich.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
This is not the time to be politically correct. We
got Trump building an amusement park in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Really around town, like the ship. How you doing? I'm good?
You look good, thank you?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You smell good's Yeah, I ain't even shower today. No way,
I'm like, I say, you watch you.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Like I ain't showering four days. She's gonna let us
let us know, right, No, I shower? How shower? I
watched uff I got under my arms and you know
my private part. I'm screaming. So how's life good? Life
is good.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'm really excited to be here with you, you know,
sit down and be brutally honest.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So listen, we gotta let the world know exactly who
miss Wu is.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, first of all, is Jesse Wu. Is that your
real name? No, that is not your real name? Okay,
my name is Jessica.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You got me trying to speak for Jessica Jessica. Like
juice means just, it means to be right French. Okay,
j u, I c e j u s t j u.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh juice.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
But jesse Woo came from I used to be I
used to have my I G name used to be
brace Face because I have braces face.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So then like when my braces came off, I was
looking for another name. And at the time, I used
to wear re re Woo from Mac. You know, Mac
has ruby Woo red lipstick that, yeah, every girl has
a girl is in my bag in my dressing room?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Every girl? How is that? And Heroin? Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, and so there was so Rihanna had a Mac
lipstick called re Rewood, which was like a purple.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It almost was like Heroin a little bit, right.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So I used to mix her lipstick with the ruby
Wou and I would call it jesse Woo. Then I
just made that my Instagram name and it just stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It took off. I love it jesse Woo. Sometimes I
would be like, so I thought it was an Asian
lady coming in right, hold on, no, look like this wool.
It's just my litation as I love it, love it.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
So wait, okay, so you were born in my Treol Yeah, okay,
raised in Miami, and then you came to Amanda.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
And started taking over. So how has living in.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
These different places like shaped your life and your career
and everything that you're doing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't feel like I have taken over in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean I've been here since twenty twenty, but I
feel like there's still a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But I have done well.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like so I went from when I was graduating with
my master's. I did go to New York from some times.
That was back in twenty seventeen, right, and that's where
I started doing like my content. Like I had moved
into like my first apartment, I was living with like
four strangers.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know, it's New York.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So were you a Manhattan, Brooklyn and Brooklyn which is
like flat Bush It's like where all the Haitians live.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Did you have any crazy stories? Oh my god? Yeah,
oh the way I left that apartment.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So I had a roommate at the time, so it
was two girls, two guys, and well it was supposed
to be us four because one of the guys would
like bring his girlfriend, like, and then other people bring
other people.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It just got weird.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Stuff got weird, and you know, like there were two bathrooms.
You're sharing bathrooms with other people, and people were not
considerate and stuff. So anyway, one of the roommates that
I had, he had like a psychotic girlfriend. Like the
girl was psychotic, okay, and uh, I think she thought
I wanted her man, mind you, like her man was
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sleeping on a mattress.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right roommates, the three right, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And so she would do ship like clog up our
toilet mind you, like like she'd put her she would
take her hair out like her weave and put it
in our toilet. Mind you, If you do that, we
all can't use the including your right. Like.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It just was weird. And then like one day.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I come in the apartment and nobody's there but her,
and like she attacks me.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
We get into a full blown You just walk in
and she just starting It's.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like she was waiting for me to get home. It
just was so weird. Okay, he probably was lying.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, niggas got to lie and you know, just
to make themselves feel better.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, she'd be looking at me a little
funny baby. But about you? About me? Yes, say wait
a nigga that you were dating. Yes, I'm gonna get
to that against me. Yes, are you serious? Yes? Like
men a weird menoward But anyway, okay, we're gonna get today. Okay,
(05:18):
get to that. But where we So she attacks me,
full a blown fight.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So she leaves and I go in his room. It's
not much for me to destroy, right, so I slice
up the air mattress.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I sliced. He had a TV. I broke the TV.
So he gets home. He see. I know he's gonna
blow up when he gets home. I just don't set
up the trap.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So he gets home and I have bought our dining
room table.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He destroys the dining room table. I call the police. Okay,
the police has scored him out. He had to leave,
so he was no longer in an apartment with us.
But you ain't got no place to live now, congration.
So immediately after that, though, I did end up moving
out of that apartment.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
It just was too much. It was I was in
there with strangers and it was just it was too much.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But right before I left that apartment, I had lost
my first job that I got in New York, Like
it just was.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It was a crazy time. It was a blessing. It
wasn't what I understand.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
When you lost that job, that's when you decided to
start going on the internet. Yes, And did you realize
when you, uh, you know, started that first moment on
the internet, did you know you were going to blow
up like this?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now I still feel like I still feel like, what's
blowing up?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay? Well, I feel like there's so many you know,
Can I toot your horn for you? Just a little bitter? Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So you were on a TV show okay, you were
on another TV show with addition Nation, and then you
were on the other TV show not was it?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Was it a la carte? Okay?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
And then you know you're me and you did a
TV show together and the Black Women.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, and then you.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Know all your followers and you know you I'm assuming
that that social media is doing well for you.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, okay, I mean I do.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I have my YouTube where I do a lot of
dating show reviews. I have just a couple of things,
which is my podcast. I just feel like nowadays when
people say you blow up, I just feel like, what
is that? Because I feel like there's just so much
work to do to keep it like sustainable. I feel
like nowadays it's just so easy to like get a
(07:29):
million followers, but then like what's next, like you know,
cause it's just I feel like the content creates the
content creator space.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's such a you really have to fight for it,
which you should, but you but here's another And we
forgot to mention your album.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yes, you're so tell the name of your album and
cancer moves up a cancer, Yes, so we forgot to
mention that as well. Not because you sing too, yes,
so you sing you at your comedian and your content creator.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I mean that's not easy. No, it's not at all.
It's not. That's why I'm like blowing up, what do
you mean? I feel like it's just so much work,
so much.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I know what, I'm blessed, Like I'm blessed to do
what I love to do every day. Like my prayer
was like when I would go into that job, I'd
be like, God, I really want my talent to pay
my bills. I want my talent to pay my bills.
And then I got fired and I was like, wait,
so so I'm grateful. I'm grateful to God I'm grateful
for everything. How everything's unfolding in life?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oka, And let's rewind a little bit because from what
I understand, your mother was the choir director and your.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Dad is a minister.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, okay, so how does that play into your life? Like,
you know, do you sometimes feel like you hold back
because you come from your your PK.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
No, I don't feel like I hold back because I'm
you know, I've told people my mom and my father
divorced because my father was addicted to drugs.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So he was he was, yes, really yes, he was preaching.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
In the morning Sunday morning, and he was slanging round
Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Like so you know that's duality. I mean, like my
dad has levels.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
To him, and I feel like so for me, Like, No,
I don't feel like I have to hold back.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I feel like I just I say what I what
I want. I express myself.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
But I do I do share Christ like, I do
it in my own way. I don't do it to
where like I am trying to be Sarah Jake's out here.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But from time to time, like you know, I will
like talk about parts of the Bible that you know
I resonate with and I will share like people who
follow me know, I love Jesus Christ. I am a
Christ follower. I go to church, I go to new Birth.
I go to the pastor Jamal Bryant.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Jamal Jamal's Jamal is very controversial.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yes, okay, every time, Oh my God, every time I
even say something.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
My church, don't you go to Jamal church? He ain't shit,
he ain't.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I'm like, oh my God, get off my pastor's nutsat.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Jesus Christ like bro like. The dude has never claimed
to be perfect, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And recently last year he got married to our first lady,
and I feel like, even me, I've told him this
in private, I've said this publicly that I could not
commit to new Birth until I saw my pastor get married, right,
And I feel like since he's gotten married, God, there's
blessings in getting married and being dedicated to your wife,
(10:20):
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
But he was married before, and he cheated on Giselle. Yeah,
he was married to Giselle. Do you think he's gonna
be faithful this time around?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, I've spent a lot of time with them. I do, Okay,
I do. I think my pastor is over it's because.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't know, he's a cheaters. I don't know, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I heard him talking about being polyamorous where I've heard
that somewhere. I was like, I think Jamal Bryant is
Polly No.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
No, no, no, no, I will say.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I feel like since he has gotten married and he's
dedicated himself to the pastor Carrie, pastor carry.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Too, she ain't nothing to play with. She is well.
I saw her be beefing with herself, beefing with herself
and whatever she got going on over there.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
But I think that when he dedicated himself to the
right woman, new Birth needed Pastor Carry. So I definitely
look forward to seeing what's next and how they do.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I would love to talk to him about that because
I'm c Yeah, I'm very curious because this is you know,
he's got all these and I heard the church ladies
be the ones coming up from.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The pulpit like I need healing. That's another hands.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I feel like that's another side to it too. I
think for me, I'm so anti misogyny. I might hate
a lot of things that have happened in the church.
I used to work in a megachurch. I've seen a
lot of nasty things, right, So I can't say, just
from what I've seen, he's not that type.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Of person who's gonna be in the church doing that. However,
I hate that.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I definitely hate pastors who take advantage of women in there.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I hate that or boys any long he's going though,
So I don't want to I don't want to speak
any long. We heard, we did, we did Godless. So
let me ask you this. Do you know white Cluff
(12:32):
John because he's Haitian too. Do you know white music
with white Cloff? You saw music with I saw music.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I just saw him last month. So he's doing he's
doing a documentary. I'm not gonna say he's gonna go
on press with that for that soon. But in the
documentary he did get to interview White Clef and Lauren Hills.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, yeah, I saw that on your Instagram.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I saw you were so excited because you you were
saying that Lauren Hill basically you've looked up to her
because she's a chocolate girl just like you are.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And by the way, you're beautiful.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Remember we had this conversation when we were doing Talk
to Listen to Black Women, and I was just telling
you like, you know, if people can't appreciate chocolate, that's
their fucking yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So yeah, yeah, Buyball.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I cried so much, like she was like the first
dark skinned woman. I just remember like being.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Like, oh my god, I want to do that Houston
like yeah, I want to do what they do. And
so yeah, he got to interview them, and I saw
white Cliff again, and why Cliff will.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Tell you, Oh that's my niece. That's yeah. But yeah,
he's great. He's great. He's a pillar in the Haitian community.
Very honored to have worked with him. That's dope. So
you said your man, yes, okay, his name is Jen.
He said, mister Easter, Yes, okay. Where where is that
coming from? It's the Eastern. Our first date was Easter Sunday.
Oh okay, with that planned? Or did y'all meet at church?
(13:59):
Or we went to church together? So we had met
like probably like ten days prior. So he got me.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So he produced a Freaknick documentary that was going crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Last year. He produced the Freakinck documentary y'all went the church.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well that's crazy the connection, but yeah, he produced Freaknick.
He was on a press tour for this nation was
his last press tour. Okay place, So we met there
and then so we just kept in contact. We talked
to each other, and then like I felt I wanted
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to ask him to go to church on Eastern I
don't know why I felt that way, right, but I
just so, I said, let me not ask him, that's
kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
But I asked him, Hey, what are you doing on
Easter Sunday? He said, Oh, I'm going to church. I
go to Buckhead Church. Would you like to come.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
To church with me?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh, okay, yeah, I'd love to come to church with you.
So we went to Easter Sunday service and then went
to brunch.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
We were at brunch for hours like money loan.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Oh yeah, for hours talking. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And then we've just been hours and hours ever since,
just we just be stuck together.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So every I love that. I love that for you. Okay.
So marriage, Oh yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Mean, he he asked me. Yet I'm not engaging nothing,
but but I just I mean, I don't. I don't
think there's anybody.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Else for me, now, Okay, So babies come in, I
would love, I would hope, so I would hope.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So yeah, I would love to. I would love to
build my life for him. Is he Haitian too? No,
he's Black American bro. He loves, but he loved. Yeah,
even Haitians be like you sure you're not?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
He should want my Nigerians who followed me because he
has a Nigerian head. He has a look, he has
a Nigerian head, but by by his ancestry. You know
that the ancestry test everybody from Nigeria. Yeah, but no,
he is Black American. He's from North Carolina. I spent
time with his family like a good old country, a
(15:56):
good old country time like is he because his mom
is amazing he has he was raised.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
With an iron fist right and he was raised right. Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I definitely looked up good good, Well you got no kids,
praise the Lord?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
He yeah right, No, maybe my majority, my y'ad they
thank God. So yeah, I definitely looked up. He's great, Okay,
he dope.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I love seeing your happiness because literally when we was
doing the show last year, Yeah, I know that you
were just like you was in a place of frustration.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, well I think too. I was.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I was like I'm just gonna go down to the clinic. Yeah,
I was like down to the I'm gonna just buy
me a baby. I'm I'm point to what the baby
daddy gonna be.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, well, let me get number fifteen, right, you know,
sperm cut number fifteen.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's go ahead and do this. Like that's where I
was like.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I was like cool, Like I will just make my
life with my children because dating is just it's just no.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And in Atlanta, yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Everybody's niggas, no ma'am, no, okay, everybody's sharing the same
three Africans or Haitian.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The Haitians haven't really taken over Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, if you're in Miami, i'd say that maybe, like
in Stone Crest you got Haitians. In Atlanta, it's very
much the Africans have taken over.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Got y good luck to y'all. Yeah, ladies. How do
you feel about what Trump said about the Haitians?
Speaker 5 (17:24):
So Trump can go to hell either.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
The thing is is that a lot of people say
what they say about Haitians and Haiti because they don't
want you.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
To go to Haiti.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
If you go to Haiti, you'll discover number one, that
it's a beautiful country or discover that it's a beautiful culture.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You'll discover great food. But also if you do your research,
you'll discover that Haiti is mostly not owned by Haitians. Okay,
like all these people trump the Clinton's they own so
much in Haiti. A lot of these people have built
their riches off of the backs of Asians.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like the American bank system owes Haiti a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like people just don't know, you know, all the blood
and sweat and Haitian tears that have gone into this country.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right. So that's why, like when you see.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
The anti Haitian movements, it's not just to deter you
from Haitians. It's because they want to turn Haiti into
like the next like amusement.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Park slash island where they can just get rid of
and that the Jeffrey Epstein Island of.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Course, or just turn it into like this money making
machine that you know, they would love to just get
rid of Haitians.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
They would love to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And I think that, you know, I would love to
see this this generation of Haitians actually band together and
do stuff together. But that's another problem. You know, black
people all over have a problem with just stick inte.
It's not just a Black American thing. I see black
Americans will say, oh, we need to say trust me,
it's not just a Black American thing.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
If you go to Africa, many of.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Those these countries, like they like the Congo. These leaders
that are watching their people die, they are filthy rich.
Poverty puts a lot of money into the pockets of
these leaders, black, white, whatever, and so there's a lot
of money to be gained in keeping people poor. So
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you know, yeah, Trump can I I I feel like
we're not doing what we need to do by contacting
the ancestors. We ain't doing it hard enough. I don't
know why this man hasn't choked on his own tongue yet.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I don't know who need to play. Somebody tried to
kill him.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That was not real, and two innocent people, two innocent
people died.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You think that was staged. I listened when they because
they killed the gunman. Innocent people died. That was staged.
So he knew he was. He was a market. He
was like, Hey, I'm gonna leave none of this ship
that I'm seeing, it's just all. None of this is real.
I don't even think that Kamala lost.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
But the thing that I don't like about the Democratic
Party is I just feel like we need to get
on our Corey book As shit, we need to get
on our Jasmine Crockett, you know, I mean, like we
don't like to disturb Trump. Don't care about that Trump
has been disturbing humanity disrupt Yeah, she's been disturbing us
in the last sixty years.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So I think like we need to do a better
job of, like you know, John Lewis used to say,
getting into good trouble and being disruptors. And I don't
care about us being professional. I don't care about us
saying what's right. I care about us overtaking this shit. Right, Well,
here's gonna start it. I mean Cory Booker what he
just did the other day. And I feel like every
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every senator should have been there. Everybody should have been there, right,
And when I look at Jasmine Crockett, who says what
the fuck she wants from She'll tell She'll tell Elon,
Adolf Hitler, Musty.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Junior, fuck, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Like, yeah, Like that's why, like we're not this is
not the time to be politically correct.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That ship is out the window.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
We got we got Trump Building, got building an amusement
park in Gaza, like you know what I mean, Like,
it's not it's not the time we need to shake
ship up.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So all right, so it's it's time to shake some
ship up. Yeah, okay, shake it up now. On a
lighter note, you joined love and hip hop?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yes, how is that experience? Hated het it what made
you join?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So at the time when Scott Young, she came, okay,
she asked me to do it, and I was I
was very happy to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I mean, I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I learned very quickly that reality television is not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Reality at all. You know, did reality?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yes, yes? And you didn't hear I think you did
it with Carlos d No, it wasn't Carlos King. It
was shed.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Media Okay, but yeah, it's not exactly reality. Here's the thing.
I from my experience, like, I did what I did.
I did what I did, I said what I said.
But they if they want to make you look like
you're arguing with yourself, it's not hard to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All you gotta do is cut out the other person.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know, and so it's very easy to not show
the true essence of someone and that's what I didn't like.
And I wasn't just about to do it for another
year too, Like I just wasn't about to keep doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Plus at the time, I wasn't even living in Miami.
I was living in New York and I was having
to travel down in Miami to film.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
It was just too much.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I've had other opportunities come to me, and right now
I do have one one opportunity that I'm like, I
am entertaining because it's.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
With someone that I actually really really like and appreciate.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I won't say her name, but she kind of spilled
a little bit, but I won't say anything just in
case I don't want to get in trouble. But you know,
I think that I have learned how things go, and
I think if I.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Do it now, i'd be better.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Okay, Yeah, Well you kind of did reality in a
sense when you were doing Dishnation.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Well, so at the time I was, I was doing
a lot of guest hosting for Donation.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I liked you.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yeah, I definitely was like, she should be permanent now
there when you was on Dishnation, you and Tamar got
into it. How was it working with Tamar, because Tamar.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Hated it. You know what, let me, let me, let
me be honest.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
I'm brutally. I think when is happy, she's great. Okay,
when she's happy, she is great. She's not a happy person, really,
that's just it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And that makes me so sad because I'm a Pisces
and she's a Pisces, and I don't like when Pisces
be giving us bad rests, okay, because we like our
our little fish community sticking together. So when I hear
all these things about Taymor, I'm like, well, damn, another person.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, I think it's just she's not a happy person.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
She just like what you see. Honestly, that's what it is.
She's just not happy.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And I think that, you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I don't know her personally enough to know really what
what her story is outside of what I've seen and
the website played out, But even like just briefly, like
when we were here, I just think, like we we
we made mutual friends and people who are not even
in the in the entertainment space, what they would experience.
(24:48):
It just was like, she's just not a happy person.
So I think if a person is not happy, then
it's it's not even about them being like hard.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
To hard to work with. You're just not a happy person.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Like even if we're going out for drinks like you can,
You're you're annoyed, You're.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You gotta, I gotta leave. Like it's just she's just
not a happy person.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And I think that that's just something that you know,
maybe a therapist, maybe God can help. I don't know, Come, Tamar,
I love, we gotta get you happy, Yeah, yeah, we
gotta do something.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But yeah, And but I think she's actually uh, I
think she's.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Very talented, super I think that even like in the
commentary space, like she's so quotable, like she is like.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
In her own way, she is a very iconic person.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I just think that if she would just tap into
truly being happy, I.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Think that things would change for her. Yeah yeah, okay,
I like that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
So who has tried to slip in your dms? Different celebrities?
Do you have girl who tried to slip into your DM?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I wouldn't tell now. I wouldn't tell him now that
the relationship.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I could tell you, I could tell you outside the pig,
I don't want to know. I mean, I feel like
now because I'm with my man and he's also in
this space. Okay, I try not to say anything that
could be used to.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Like, you know, like because people are like, oh, she
got a man. She gets talking about more, not wors,
not Mars, but which, by the way, Morris is so dope.
I love, I love.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I did the I did the after show for a
reasonable doubt and okay, I interviewed him and he asked
me to sing on the spot. I was like, what
did you say? I did? I made him a song
on the spot and okay, it just was so fun.
But no, I mean well saying now I'm putting you
on the spot. Well, I will say this looking for
chocolate making. She was already like, no, Tory, I'm not
(26:54):
about to sing for you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Okay, I will say this. I feel like I'll say this.
I think that the celebrity men now they are not
what they used to be. Now, what do you mean?
You got to tell me exactly what you mean.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
They ain't got it like that what you mean financially
or it looks like financially financially Okay, so they they're
not that I go around looking.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
To spend men's money. I make good money on my own.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
However, I just feel like when I used to when
I would hear how like you know the men, like
maybe like ten years ago, the celebrity guys would wine
and dine and what that's not really happening right now.
And and I thought it was just a me thing
until like even the other day, I was at a dinner.
It was like an influencer dinner and there was this
young lady who was talking about an actor. You can't
(27:49):
say his name, but.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Give me a hint. Well, you know what hen that
he not. I don't think you would get the hit.
Just give me, give me a might, give me this
smidget a little.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
He's not he's known, but he ain't that well known,
but he's known.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So but she was.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Saying how he at first like it was it turned
from him wanting and donning her into him asking her
for money, so like it's kind of yes, And I
was like, Okay, this is not the first time I've
heard about this from him. But also I feel like
it's just it's it's also a testament to the fact
that right now, like for actors.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
It's just not what it used to be. That is true.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Well, here's the thing is, it's really women are dominating,
you know. So there's a lot of like women, they
want women to be heroes in movies now, you know,
in that space. So and then actually women do better
on social media too, so we are you know, I
didn't consider that it is what it is, you know, yeah,
(28:55):
but I mean that's why it's okay.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Maybe today the guy that's.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Not in the industry's yeah, you know, like I feel
like I feel like the girlies, especially like here in
Atlanta for instance, Atlanta to me is like a baby la, right,
and it's like everybody kind of wants to have this image.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
And it's like, girl, just date a regular guy. Like
it's okay, just stay the manager at the bank, but
cable job. But it's just like they.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You don't have to date the rapper that's everybody's dating.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You don't have to date you know, it's just lord.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Just it's so many good guys here, like in the
financial space. Like, but the girlies they they just want
they want the guy with a million followers.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
And I was just like, okay, girl, okay, girl.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Well they want to be they want the whole look,
you know, they want to look like they you know why.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I won't say Gabriel Dane, but they do. They want
to get that. Who else is who they want? Will
and Jada. I don't know if they want Will and
Jada no more either ship because I'm team Jada. I
don't give fun with nobody Team Jada period. I'm so
hell yes god, I mean, well, maybe they want the
Nissi and the Jessica Betts.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Look now, okay, people are going for you and they
look happy as elle.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
But nobody knows even when you say Nisi and Jessica, right,
Nissi how to go through a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
To ship to.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Jessica listens is my neighbor, okay, And when I tell
you the different things that the different men she dealt with,
you know it's her ex husband special specifically. Okay, I
know some of the stories that they went through, and
I'm so glad to see her happy now too. It's
like they look super happy me too. I mean, some days,
(30:44):
you know, I'm not gay, but some days I'll be like, maybe, right,
may does it take that to make you like that
that happy?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
There's nothing there's nothing like being loved by black women,
you know, is right. So it's like I think just
being blood by a black woman, it's just elite. You know,
it's elite. But even like their stories, like it takes.
Jessica is not someone who was a big star with
millions of followers, you know, but NISI saw her, and
(31:14):
I feel like sometimes you the girlies liked the flashy,
like even me with my man, like if he didn't,
he will tell you we met several times before I
met him at this nation. I can't tell you those times,
but he can recount them, Okay, you know what I mean.
And so I think for me, I just think, damn,
what was I looking for at that time that didn't
make me see this man that was in front of me.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So yeah, like you were probably looking for flashy, I
was probably, And I mean and that's okay because you know,
as a public figure, you feel like you should have
a public figure by your side. And also they try to,
you know, make it seem like if you have that,
it blows you up bigger, which if if you look
at it, the jay Z, Beyonce, the ri and money
Bag Yo, well when Jada was with little baby, Yeah,
(31:59):
you know, so everybody was trying to do that. So
do any women hit on you women. I've had women before, no, no, no, no,
I've had them been hit on me. I remember there
(32:19):
was one girl who kind of it was subtle. Women
are different when they like hit on you, it's kind
of subtle.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
But I've never dated a woman. I mean, I love women,
though I'm fast.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
This is gonna sound so queer, but like I love titties,
like I love the female body, like I feel like
the man.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
A man's bodies ugly to me.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I feel like the woman's body is just like, oh
my God, like titties.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Like I'm a titty girl. Okay, like I can like
look at people. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I'm a titty girl. Like it's just so weird. I've
always been fascinated by titties. But yeah, like I love
how women look. But I've never been into women.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I get you, I feel because I like titties too. Yeah,
I love right. So, what's the biggest misconception about who
Jesse Wu is? What's the biggest misconcert?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think I will say right now, I think a
lot of people online think I'm angry because, like so
I've been putting up clips on my podcast just talking
about like the dating, like dating and what my thoughts
are on certain things and like people but see, and
that's why you are three or old four.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
You ain't because you're a three old four and you're single.
And then they go to my pay tell people what
a three or four is? I think it's a who Miami?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh is that how? I think it's a Miami area code?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay, but yeah, but I people, but oh she and
she said she lonely and miserable and that's why she
thinks that way. It's like, no, I just think that
I have a lot of thoughts when it comes to
dating might be unpopular, and times I will say those
thoughts and yeah, people will think that, but you're.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
A man and you're happy, so yes.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But I think a lot of times when you're opinionated,
I'm not just dating, but just you know, I give
my opinion on like dating shows. I give my opinion
on like trending topics, and people will be like, damn,
like why are.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You so miserable? Why you you know why you like?
And it's like I'm not. I'm actually quite happy. I
have a very good guy in my life. I just
have opinions that might not be your opinion, right, That's okay,
and you're okay with sharing your Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like that's a thing hiding. Yeah, right, when
you share your opinions, especially as a woman, right, and
(34:32):
then you dark skinned, like it's just like okay, like okay,
you dark bitch, shut up?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know what I mean. Like it's like that's that'd
be a reaction sometimes, right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So yeah, but I think that's a misconception that I'm
like that I'm miserable or that I'm angry.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Well, I know firsthand. She is not miserable. No, every
time we have been together hung out, never ever since
you being miserable? No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Okay, all right, now real quick, this is our This
is something a segment that I.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Call holy or hell.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Nah.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Okay, so it is not too bad. Okay, it's not
too bad at all. Sliding into d MS to shoot
your shot? Have you ever done that or would you
do that?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah? I've done that, Okay, Okay, So holy for you.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Okay, like anybody I know probably Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I'm gonna say it a relationship. He's not gonna care
is here's my damn they're the sad man, right Okay,
all right, Okay, I'm not gonna I'll tell you off. Okay.
Bringing back exes on reality TV?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Ooh I love mess? So yes, okay, I love, I love.
I love watching the Mess.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You love watching the Message? Okay? Got you dropping a
surprise album with no promo?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean you can do that if you Beyonce, if
you Kendrick right, if you yeah, you know that'll work.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
But if you just you know such and such from
down the street, ma'am no, okay, no, absolutely not, he'll know. Okay.
So who lied on me? Oh girl? Oh my god.
I kind of have an idea.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
And I don't even want to say his name, I know,
does it start to m Yes, okay, I had that.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, and I'm so like, he ain't famous, okay because
my producer over there like, who's.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, yeah, he'll said it.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
He makes good money, but he's not famous. No, no,
you know he's not famous.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
No. But how it happened was.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Back in twenty nineteen, he and I were seeing each
other kind okay, so back when I was like in college,
he was, you know, doing the comedy scene in Miami,
and so that's how I ran into him there. And
during my college days, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
We did see each other.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But we were dating each other, but I thought he
was single, okay, So because I asked, he was no, no, no,
no, no no no no okay. So I had asked him
if he was single and he was like, yeah, I'm single.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
And then like I go on, I go out with
my homegirls, and I was like telling my homegirl, oh hey,
we were talking about dating whatever. I'm like, oh right,
I'm seeing such and such, you know, and she's like, girl,
that's my cousin's husband.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
I was like, what, No, I didn't know he was
married either. I didn't know. I didn't know he was married. Yeah,
because she.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Was living in Florida and he was living in So
it was a hole.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
When I found out. I was like, nigga, you're married. No,
So he was still doing that. So that's so that's
how he's m O yeah, yeah, m o. Yeah. So
not telling saying.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
His name, we not saying his damn n no, we
don't want to breathe black into that mother.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah. Now, but so found out he was he was married,
So I left it alone. I did get some dick
to go to go okay, I think god dick, and
then I went on my way right. But anyway, so.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I didn't see him for like a long, long, long
long time, and then like twenty nineteen, Love and Hip
Hop was out, and I guess he saw some scenes
from it.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
He reached out to me and he's like.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yo, you know, I'd love to reconnect and everything. First
thing I asked him was are you still married?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Right? And he was like, oh no, no, we got divorced. Whatever.
I went to go do my fool goals.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm like, okay, it does look like he's telling the truth. Okay,
and so anyway, but still he had flew me out
to La and I went to him on the set
of the show that he writes for.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Okay, pretty sure, you know. So it's just random, random conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
We're talking about people that we had dated or whatever,
and you came up. But he was like he said
that you went to about me, like asking him, are
you seeing this girls?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
And I was like that makes no sense. I was like,
that makes no sense, you guys.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I was like that out in the public or that
makes no sense. I knew it was him, but the
way he told it to me, I was like, damn.
I like, if I ever run into this woman, I.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Don't want her to think like I.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
So for for a while I was trying to We
knew each other, probably probably, so I was like, damn,
I got beef with this lady.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I don't even know her. I don't know what's going on.
And then I remember I saw you at a party.
I think it was Marseille Martin's.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it was Marseille. That's when we first met. Yes,
And then I was.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Like, but before you came up to me, I was
like apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I was like, oh my god, should I say Hi?
Should And I think you said.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I was like hi, yeah, because I said how Immediately,
I was like, thank god, okay, so we're good.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It was it was so great.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'm like, oh, thank God, Like there's we don't have
any problem. The way he came to me about you, I.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Just was like, that makes that so it's like, let
me separate her. Let me separate her so they cannot.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It was so so weird, but anyway, well it was weird.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah. Anyway, we're here together in our chairs.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Before we get out of here, I want to know
what's next for jesse Wu, like you know, upcoming projects, collaborations,
Like what do you have going on because people can know.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Well, I actually am writing a movie right now. Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
So it's a it's an animated series, an animated movie,
and it's based on a real, real story, so okay,
it's gonna be a Haitian story.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Okay. And then I mean, I'm in a relationship with
a showrunner.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
So he has three shows that he runs, but also
he came up with a nine year recently for we're
so into true crime, okay, and so we've just been
putting decks together and okay, let's see what network would want.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yes, let's see.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I really want us to be like Candy and Todds,
Like I really like, okay, what Candy and Todd have
done together, couples that have gotten together and made it.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, me to build.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
So I definitely look forward to like having a movie
out and it's okay, like a musical.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
So yeah, I want to create shows. And then of
course I have my podcast. Just a couple of things
I had to come on.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I would for you to come on, so yeah, so yeah,
those are things just just creating, creating.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I love it. Okay, Well listen, Jess, I've loved having
you on the show. Thank you so much. For being
here today.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
I wish you much success and just continue doing everything
that you're doing. You're beautiful, you're sciented, you're smart, you're incredible,
and please let the world know where they can find you.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Where are you at?
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh? You can follow me at the Jesse WU on
every on bluddah, I'm sorry, follow me on the Jesse
WU on every platform social media platform so Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
and yeah, just a couple of things is my podcast.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
It comes on every Thursday. So yes, so y'all follow her?
Watch please give it up for miss Jessee. Will y'all, girl,
you knew that girl?
Speaker 5 (42:15):
You knew that girl?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
You were?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
You a better read his thanks to lend pay attention
to everything, walk around town like he to share with
the high clothes boys.