Mayhem Monday - What's with the Mustache? - Building Better Humans Project

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Approache Production.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hey, team, welcome back to the Building Better Humans Project podcast.
It is Mayhem Monday, which means, of course we.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Have Mayhem Mayhem in the Mayhem Hello. Only you had
a new idea, you'd love your life.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
So before we go into today's episode, which Mellie will
talk about, I just want to briefly touch on the
fact that since we've recorded our last episodes, merely fought
again for the WBC Australasian title and had a very
good win.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah. That was a really good fight. Yeah. I really
enjoyed being in the ring for those four rounds. It
was meant to be eight, but we got her out
in four.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So it was finding someone with twenty five pro fights
in only your third profile. You haven't had a big amateur.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Background, No, not one at all.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Reason we're not scared to take on challenges. And she's
fought some of the best girls in Australia, a lot
of Australian and international champions. And to be fair, she
hasn't been won a lot of those fights, but she's
one more fights than we've had.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, she has when you think, and she went the.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Distance a lot of those girls. Yeah, So what do
you think the difference was because pre that we went
up a weight division, two weight divisions, a few things.
You know, we didn't get the decision that I think,
I still think was dodging too.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I still think that we won that fight that we
comfortably on our record didn't win, which is frustrating for us,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But it was poor for the next opponent because we
went out with a whole different game plan, more aggression.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, yes, yeah, So you know we tried in the
fight that I lost, we tried to box a little bit,
more box and move and all of that. But this
one we just were like, nah, we're just going to
go out and smash it. Let's go, which I like
more as my fighting style, but I also do love
to box and move. I guess I like both styles,

(02:23):
but you know, just getting in in there, and you know,
my fitness can handle going hard from the get go.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
So the weight cut was hard because we had to
go from two weight visions up.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
To the well, we had to go from fighting at
fifty seven kilos to weighing in the day before my
next my last fight at fifty three and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Only four weeks between only four.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Weeks, and if you know anything about losing weight, it's
pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
For people that don't understand a combat sport in particular,
and a weight driven sport that's your athletic performance is
really important. How you fuel yourself. So we do that
very well through a nutritionness. Even though you've got knowledge
or dietician, you've a very good knowledge, but you still
you know, you mostly preempt even what your dietitians.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, she's absolutely amazing the performance dietician shout out. So, yeah,
I'm really happy with what she does and how she
helps me through my weight cut, and she keeps it
as safe as possible, which obviously is a high priority. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
And next we go to P ANDNG for the nationals,
which is your final really your final selection I think
for cong game selection.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
We've still got a few political hurdles in our way
organizing dual citizenship again and so on, but we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah. So if you're listening to this and you work
with P and G immigration, help us out, help us
us are out. God, it used to be a little
bit easier than this, right, money, Jo would never do that.
We would never buy someone a carton for favors.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
All right, so today, well, first before we get in
today's episode, we've been getting obviously good feedback again, and
these have been going up on YouTube. Some people weren't
aware of that that they're also up on YouTube. So
just look for the Booty Better Humans project that under
Mayhem mondays.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I usually share it on We usually share it on
our socials, you know, a couple of days before that
episode will come out, or even on the day. So
if you're not you know, a fan of just listening
and you want to watch and see all of that,
then go on the YouTube.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
But yeah, we had a little good bit of feedback
just on Facebook yesterdays saying that watching the body language
between us is quite good.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I love that. Yeah, so we've had really good feedback
regardless of anything. Any questions that have that may come
in and framed and negative, We've had mostly good feedback
on these podcasts, So keep all of those come in.
Even if you don't have good feedback, also keep it
coming because we kind of live for feedback.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
We're pretty broad shouldered. We'll take on whatever. And one
of the things I've said to you is that it
can seem like you're getting some negatives, but realistically, it's
ninety sent positives, so we're being far outweighed by the positives.
Not that we're driven by either, but in life, I
think we can tend to focus on negatives when they

(05:15):
come in without realizing, oh, there's that one negative and
over here there's nine positives. So for mostly the feedback
has been really really good, and we appreciate that, and
we'll get better and better at this too, this format.
So yeah, so anyway, let's get on to today's topics.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So today we obviously put out those NGLs, so the
questions for our followers and our listeners to ask or
even just cent feedback, and we put out on your socials,
you know, an NGL link asking for topics and then
we can base those around. But mostly we're just getting

(05:52):
stuff about our relationships. So I guess people are very curious,
which is fine. We love to talk about anything, sorry
anything anything, oh my god, but true love talking about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Obviously, people are still in the early stages of these
episodes interested in this, yeah, which is fine, which.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Is fine, And we did say ask us whatever, and
if people are still curious about our relationship, then we
will continue to answer those questions. About our relationship. We have,
you know, things that are about other things as well,
but we like to keep it like mostly one topic.
Otherwise it sort of goes everywhere and all over in between.
So we have probably about four or five questions today.

(06:36):
The first one is a very easy one. What's the
guy with the mustache? So Glenn's going to a mustache
in the past few months and it is amazing. I'm
a big fan.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I'm not a mustache guy or a facial hair go
outside of there's a little bit here, but Millie suggested
that she likes them.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I do. I'm a big mustache fan.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
And so as I say to people, and this is
not just a dad joke, but it's growing on me.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Because I was asking do you like it? He's like
it's growing on my.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Own good, Like it's growing on me, like I'm getting
used to it.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Just kill me. I stopped asking that question because yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
A lot of our friends Sammy Dunk messages me and said,
what's the mustache? And I said's growing on me? And
she has read banks like a caterpillar.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Some people go, what what's with the big dirty mo?
I love it, I'm big on it. I don't know,
I just love a mustache, and if you can grow
on it's even more like, oh.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
My god, keep saying I'm changing. I've been with you, right,
but and here I'm in a pink shirt. Yeah it's
man Salmon future. And I'm mostly renowned for wearing blacks obviously,
But I think there have been some changes since being
with you, I guess in just the way I expressed
myself or do things differently, yeah, or someone and not

(07:50):
even a post I wrote on social media today as
we record. This was just around the fact that I
think you want to be in relationships with people who
are growing because your constant well, life's changing all the
time as we age and as we go through new
challenges and personally let alone together, and if you're with
people that aren't willing to grow, then you're constantly going

(08:11):
to be fighting for the authority to be right all
the time.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Well I read this thing once that people have like
five year cycles and so they change, you know, and
then a lot of people will be like, oh, yeah,
you know, my relationships usually last around that time because
we develop and we change the things that we are
or the things that we want in life every five years.
So that's good. Some time there was someone's theory on

(08:36):
life in general.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I get that, but I think if you're not actively growing,
let people go, oh, you should just accept me for me. Well, no,
not necessarily not. If you know your behaviors and your
triggers and the way you're reacting to things are negative
and poor, someone shouldn't just accept that. You should be
actively adapting and changing in life. We said this a

(08:58):
few episodes ago. If I'm the same person now I
was ten years ago, then what have I just done
with the last ten years? And then if you are
the same person despite ten years of experiences, and I'm
not talking relationships, I'm talking in general, then you're not
really learning and growing. You're just defending your current position. Yeah,
and that's, to me, is crazy because I'm very different now.

(09:20):
You know, as we record this, I'm two days off
my fifty third birthday. Now go back twenty years. If
I'm the same person, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, Like I look back on my younger self and
there's a lot of things that I'm really happy to
have changed. So yeah, I know a lot of people
will go you know that, and they'll have trauma or
they'll have a hard life, or they'll have a hard upbringing,
and then they'll use that as an excuse to be
the way that they are. You know, maybe they might
showcase not necessarily good traits, or you know, they might

(09:51):
be a little bit angry at the world, or they
might hate this sort of person, and you know, but
they blame it on their upbringing or their childhood or
And I feel like, once you get to a certain age,
it's the honest is on you too.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
When do you put your hand up and go Now
it's choices. Yeah, so you can't keep hating a thing
or I always say, semi joking, I just did a
Cocoda trip and I was a young man Calum. He
was a really good young bloke and he did a
couple of things here and there where I would say,
don't do that, and he would start telling me why,
and I said, I don't need the story, and his

(10:22):
mum would laugh. I said no. And I say to
people all the time, I don't need the story. And
the only reason I don't need the story is because
the more you tell a story, the more you embed
that story has been why you are the way you are,
and if you can knock that out of kids while
they're young, so they guess, tell, Okay, you don't want
me to do it anymore. There's no it's no one's fault.
There's no one. I just don't want to do it.

(10:45):
Whereas we know thirty forty fifty year olds, so they're
still telling stories about Yeah, but it's because of my upbringing.
At what point has it become about choices that you make?
And we're getting a little bit off relationships, but it
is a part of it because triggers and traumas, and
if I'm triggered by you know, every poor relationship I've had,
or you are, like, you know, someone cheated on you

(11:06):
in numerous relationships, so you're automatically looking for that trigger.
That's that's craziness to me because you're starting well that
your partner has to be in the defensive all the time.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And then I guess it comes down to maybe you
should have spent a little bit of time alone to.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
You not ten years necessarily.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
It depends on how much come along.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Mustache is here to stay.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
It is here to stay.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, I'm told to get rid of it. It's here
to stay.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
This next one is about our kids, So how do
you guys get along with each other's kids. Yes, we do.
For the most part, we do. So the boys love you.
They've accepted you very.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, pretty quicker than I thought, if I'm honest me
to That was a tricky one for me because my
kids were mostly grown up. And then, you know, like
as I record this, my Samantha turns eighteen. She has
a birthda the same day as me. So my kids
are largely growing up. And then I have two young
boys and young men, and I haven't had that experience

(12:14):
because my daughters are all what I call neurotypical, and
Christian's not. And so Christian's not as a twenty one
year old. He hasn't gone through the normal life phases
of a young man. So he's kind of stuck perpetually
in that kid phase, which I love.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
He's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
He's beautiful, and he loves you.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
This is talking about how well we get on with
our kids. This is how well Christian loves Millie. I
ring him. So there's a few places on the Kakoda
track where can get service, but there's one place where can,
if you're lucky, get a FaceTime. And Christian loves a FaceTime.
So I'm on top of the Minari Gap for anyone
that knows Cokoda coming up out of Manari Village heading
back towards Port Moresby, and I FaceTime and I haven't

(12:54):
a chat. And he had spoken to Millie because Milly
told me the day before or maybe two days before.
And I just said to him, did you speak to Millie?
And he got confused and said no, because he hadn't
spoken to her today. I said, oh no, yes, I
really said you spoke. He says, I ring, he now,
and just hang up on me. There's no goodbye anything.
So I bro, I've got literally this little tiny window

(13:15):
of pub. I'm sitting on this hill to talk to you,
and you've hung up on the ring. And then Millie
text me and says, Christians ring. So he does love you.
The older girls, as in my daughters are I think,
are good with you. You know, mostly we.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Just don't spend a lot of time together, so it's
kind of hard. But with their own lives, yeah, you know,
they live a few hours apart from where we live.
And so when I see the older girls, it's mostly
when they come to drop Christian off with us. He'll
stay a week with us. Every other week. We like
to have him like, you know, if he can if
it suits. So yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
For the most part, yes, and it's it's a really
interesting thing because I was watching a video just this
morning actually because I got up early and was doing
some stuff, and it was around how hard being a
step dad is because you want to go in and
have some positive influence, but you're always going to be
a potentially you're not my real dad, or you're And

(14:14):
this guy that was talking about it was saying that
his mother was saying to him when he went into
a stepfather, either this is the most important role that
you'll play, but also can be the most thankless. And
she said, we're the only animal species that would as
a male would parent someone else. She said, every other
species would kill them. I kind of get what they're saying.

(14:38):
And so then to fulfill that role, and it's been,
like everything in a relationship, it's been largely about communication.
That's helped because obviously when I first came into this,
I was very protective of you, and so if the
boys did anything against you, I would maybe be a
little bit rough on that and you would say, no,
they're just kids like, you know, they have their stuff,

(14:58):
and we also very well understood how hard the early
stage of our relationship was because it's changed for them,
but they accepted it very quickly.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think also, you know, because you didn't have neurotypical sons,
maybe you expected a little bit more of them, you know,
without without realizing, oh, yeah, they are just eleven and ten.
So but you're very.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Grown up in some areas. Yeah, but then.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Then let my little bubbies in particularly.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, it can be so switched on, but then at
times you go, he's just a baby and he doesn't Bubba,
he doesn't realize that. And hopefully he doesn't watch this yet.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh my god, he would hate me saying my little bubbies.
He'd be like mom, he could no he go bro
yeah or big back. Big back is something that they
call us.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But yeah, we really well. And I think for anyone
out there in our situation, that's going to be a
real conscious decision. You've got to make an effort because
they were in your life long before I.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Was, and they're very loyal to me.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, So if you want to be part of someone's life,
you've got to accept all parts of that.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Little honeys. All right, So these next few questions I
was based around, I guess jealousy or envy or feeling
left out or in a relationship to.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Say, for a lot of these questions, I've heard some
of them but merely put these up on an Angael
when I was away, and I don't get to see
them because there's a lot of non contact on Kakoda
and Angel only lasted twenty four hours. But yeah, so
we're kind of running blind. But yeah, I'm kind of
glad you put it up. Blows away just to see
what was still happening. Yeah, can we get very different
questions between the two of us, yeap, which you know

(16:45):
I think, Oh, some similar but some different.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
So this one is okay, I'll just read it. How
to navigate my new BF boyfriend. I guess not liking
that I have a male best friend. I've followed you
for a while now and I know you have male bestie.
So if you know me, you know that I have

(17:10):
a lot of male friends. And I guess I used
that as protection when I first moved to Australia because
I hung I went to a private school in cans
and I felt like I just didn't fit in at all.
And I've spoken to you and your listeners on your
podcast about this before. When I first moved to Cans,
I hung out with a few girls and like, so,

(17:35):
we were still moving over from Papua New Guinea. We
didn't have a lot of money. My parents worked so
hard to put us into this private school, which I
look back on it now and I feel like it
was kind of a little bit of a waste because
I didn't really do much with that education. Like I'm
successful as a pt. However, I could have done that
just having gone to a state school, do you know.

(17:56):
And so, yeah, so we first moved over, I found
a group of girls who I'm not bagging them out.
I still talk to a few of them. So, hey, girls,
you know, you know who you are. No, but we
we hung out a little bit, and they are girls
who come from, you know, very successful family is very
hard working, successful families, and so but then you know,

(18:21):
going through high school, you get this little bitchy sort
of clique fourteen fifteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And
then because you know they were quite successful and quite
come from money. I guess I'm trying to say I'm
not Yeah, you know what I'm saying, this was your experience,
this is my experience. Yes, And I still remember, you know,

(18:43):
we didn't have a lot of furniture in the house
because stuff was still getting shipped over or my parents
were still trying to get enough money to buy some
and so I had just my bed in my room
was just literally a doner on the floor and some pillows.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Can we just say for people that don't understand Pege culture,
that is the norm.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
That is the norm. Everyone sleeps on the floor. So
it's just like it was just nothing to me.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
With people come and live with us with a bed
in the room and they still sleep on the floor.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So the girls came over.
We were just getting ready after school or something to
go somewhere, and I just said I just want to
get changed. So they came over. They came into my
room and they looked at my bed and they were like,
is that your bad in that tone, and I just
remember like, oh my god, like this is what it
is like. And I just remember feeling like shame and

(19:30):
like embarrassed. And then when I went to their places,
I was like, so this is why they're asking me
if that's my bed because these are mansions, massive overlooking
the city, really nice places on a hill that you
can see the ocean and the city. Like, this is wealth, money,
and we didn't come from that. I've never come from that,
So I didn't understand. And so when they yeah, so.

(19:53):
And then another time I was in the shopping center
and I come straight out of Target and they're like,
why are you in Target? And so I just couldn't
and I did want to keep feeling that shame and
all that sort of stuff. So then I found Moss,
who's from PNG as well. Shout out to Moss, what's up?
Was still really good friends to this day. I just
saw him at the weekend. Yeah. So I found him

(20:15):
and we started hanging out. Then I got introduced to
all the boys and then basically my friendship group grew
from there, and I'm friends with lots of boys. I
feel like I relate more. So, Yeah, I guess this
is the person who asks this has seen a little
bit of that on my socials. How do I navigate
my new BF not liking that I have a male
best friend. I've followed you for a while now, and

(20:36):
I know you have a male bestie. You also have
a lot of female friends, so.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I probably don't post them as much or as hanging
out as much. I guess because we now live in
Redcliffe and when we're all living in Brisbane as an
oles in Brisbane and they were, I would catch up
for breakfast two or three times a week. Yeah, but
the drive from Redcliffe to Brity on a bit slacked
for it. And I'm really sorry to digy and people
like that. But she gets me. But yeah, yeah, I
do have a lot of female friends. Yeah, but that's

(21:05):
question to me, and I'll let you answer how you think.
She I'm guessing it's she or But for me, I'm
going to say the issue is with the boyfriend, because
obviously there's and that's worth having a conversation around. But
if you really really like them and you see a
future in it, you can't leave it unsaid.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I would start by saying, like any new relationship that
you get into, I would fully disclose that I have
a lot of male friends. Or I have a male
friend who I'm very close to. I've known him for
this period of time. I wanted to be with him
on bood one hundred percent. You know, if anything was
going to happen. I feel like it would have happened
by now. I would disclose whether anything has or hasn't happened,

(21:46):
just just for the you know, just for transparency, which
you know we love, and that I would also say,
I value this person in my life, and I also
think that I provide a lot of value to that
person's life. And so this relationship or friendship, well friendship
is not going to end anytime soon. And if you

(22:07):
have any issues with that, then I suggest that we
don't move forward with our relationship because I address it early,
I would say, and I you know, I would make
it very clear that this person is in my life,
has been for a while, and I'm not about to
just kick him out just because you're in.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
And I understand that as men, there's a pecking order
with the way men operate in when you walk into
a room, men are naturally from young age assessing where
they fit in the pecking order. I'm not saying they're
all trying to be the alpha.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's why I said, worry.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
They need to know where they fit in.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
So if I'm not a fighter, for example, particular as
a young man, and I'm not a physically imposing human.
I need to know if I'm five or six on
that ladder, so I don't overset my mark, because we're
an animal at the end of the day, and that's
how that animal works.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yess, men are wired that way. I should.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah. So you might say boring, but it's not. I'm
not walking to room trying to be the alpha, but
I need to know where I fit in. And if
you get and I am very alpha, I understand that.
But if I walk into a room where there are
four or five men of similar strength to me, it's
not that they're above me or below me, but we
know that we're all cool because we know where we fit,
you know. Whereas as a young man who went through

(23:17):
a lot of abusive things in my childhood from my
father and other people, I would always go in feeling
much lower than that, which isn't a good you know,
so you kind of naturally retreat. So I would either
want to fight people because you didn't skim as much
of my dad. But that's what we're doing. We're constantly
assessing this sort of peaking order, and then particularly I'm
getting they're young, and I'm not to say that at

(23:39):
my age you don't have thoughts around this stuff as well,
but we've had discussions about it how we feel about
you know, because as a man, I will say, you know,
there's a natural sumptrust to think every man wants why
wouldn't they want this? Right? But then you will say
to me, well, then why wouldn't the same be for
every female that you're friends with? Oh? Okay, so the

(24:00):
same logic doesn't work in our brains. In reverse, we're
very simple creatures.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Because I know that you have a lot of female friends.
So when you say things like, you know, why wouldn't
they want you? I'm like, well, do you want all
your female friends? Is that what you said that? Look?
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
So yeah. My point to this would be good communication
with the boyfriend and just to understand, like Millie said,
how this person fits into her life or your life
for the person writing this, but also still be able
to have to listen to why he feels those concerns
because there'll be some stuff that he hasn't unpacked or

(24:36):
you know, worked on himself more.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I will also say, and this is just my opinion,
and anybody who listens to this is more than welcome
to challenge that, but if your new relationship or even
down the track, if they are oh okay, I'm kind
of okay with it, and then maybe you're with them
for another couple of years or whatever it is, and
then all of a sudden they put an ultimatum on
you it's me or him. I'm choosing him, as in

(25:00):
the male best friend who was there before you, and
I was so clear about that, and if you put
an ultimatum on me and say me or him, I'm
choosing him only because I feel like putting ultimatums on
people that you both love and none of nobody has
done anything wrong in the relations that well, if there's
no one so if he's not overstep, if my male
best friend is not overstepping boundaries and trying to take

(25:22):
over our relationship or anything like that, or if he
hasn't hit on me, or if our relationship has just
been the same friendship for before you came along and
continually and then all of a sudden because my boyfriend
or my partner can't get over his own insecurities about that,
even though I've been reassuring him for so many so long,
you know, if he cannot get over his insecurities about that,

(25:45):
and he puts an ultimatum on me. I'm always going
to choose the person who didn't put an ultimatum on me.
So that's my opinion. You're more than welcome to challengehip,
but I would suggest you know, I would suggests off.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
The context you put on it. Yeah, because I have
also seen situations where a male or female bessie of
a male or female will try and I've had female
best friends who will try and bag out potentially a
female that you're seeing right from the beginning, or potentially
see him because they get jealous too. And I'm sure
it happens in reverse. So as long as they're not
interfering with your relationships. Have you ever had a situation

(26:18):
where a long term male friend that you thought was
just gonna be my friend all of a sudden, some
one day, Hey, I've got feelings, yes, because that can
really ruin a friendship.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so I had a Oh I
don't want to call him out on this, Okay, I
had a friend. I'm not even I'm not even going
to I'm not even going to give you the timeline
because then he'll know that it's him. I guess he's
going to know it's him anyway. But yeah, so he
after all years of being good friends, he just said like,

(26:47):
I have always been in love with you. And I
said that the feelings are not mutual, but I said
it nicer. I guess, do you go.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Back and look at the timeline? And I did I
miss something?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Not really? To be honest, we were just good mates,
like I guess he just kept it to himself. You know.
There was no gazing of eyes, and there was no like,
oh he's there, isn't there ever? We were just really
really good friends. And then he moved away, and then
he came back for a holiday and then you know,
he said that to me, and then I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
It's kind of hard to be friends after that because
that's an uncomfortableness.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, so we don't stay in touch. I haven't spoken
to him for quite a while. Every so often he'll
send me a message on what'sapp and say, hey, how
you doing, and I'll just reply and then we'll leave
it at that, and but we won't talk for sometimes years,
even I'm so old man.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Relationships are really confusing, though, and even non relationships, because
that's what we're talking about there is a non relationship
because sometimes people convince themselves that if given the opportunity,
like so, say this guy whoever it is, sees me.
Now you go, well, what's he got that I haven't got?
But it's not You can't always just while you're attracted

(28:06):
to people. You and I can talk about what we
love about each other, but it's very hard to actually
put into proper words what made us catch each other's
eye over any other human in the world, because there's
so many And so because I've had that situation obviously
where someone wanted a relationship with me that I was
very clear about and then when I started seeing you
saying well, that's just because you gave her the opportunity. Well,

(28:27):
I wasn't looking out there looking to give someone an opportunity.
I know.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
That's not how it put it on seek opportunity expressions
of interest.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I need to read your references references on relationships, because
most relationships end up poorly references. She was really nasty, so.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It says here, and then they're like, so, why do
you have a gap between I was unlovable.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Because I hadn't met you here.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
No, yes, it is the correct answer. Love you baby,
all right, we'll move on. Hopefully that answered your question
and gave you a little bit of insight into our
lives because we do have and I was always just
to talk about you and your female friends. I'm always
very good with you and your female friends. In fact,
I actively encourage you to go and do that drive
from Redcliffe to go and see them, because you know

(29:28):
they were there before me. You know, you guys had
a love for each other before me, and I understand
it from my point of view because I have that
scene with other people.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
So there have been times where where you've actually said
to me, hey, you haven't got up? Did you for ages?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Ages? And what are you doing? You know? And the
one thing that did you did say was I love
that you're happy. I just don't want to lose our
friendship in the middle of your new and that's totally fair.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
When we've got proper good friends and did She's definitely
one of them, Jadeen's one of them, you know, serious,
irrespective of sex. They're people that you I do talk
to more regular than this, but you could talk to
them in three months time and it's like nothing thing happen. Yeah, Sammy,
you know Sammie Donkey is one of my best friends.
I might talk to sometimes and I'm sorry Sammy, like
two or three times a year because sometimes she'll message

(30:14):
me and I think, oh, we haven't spade for months,
but we're still good.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah, But I love that when you actually do catch up,
it's like straight back into the friendship, you know, the
good friends. Yeah, yeah, and shout out to did you?
She has cornered every single one of my fights, apart
from obviously us being overseas, So yeah, thank you so much,
ditch love you did.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
She's a footy girl, not a not a boxing girl,
but he loves it.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah. So she comes and she holds the bucket and
she hangs out in the room and you know she's
there if we need something, and she's a good human,
all right. This one is also about jealousy, and there's
two surrounding this particular topic, so I'll read them both
and then we can talk about it. So I know
Millie loves to party because I've followed her for a

(30:57):
while now, but does but it doesn't seem like Glen does.
Does that create an issue? And then the other one
was for me, you seem like a party girl, and here,
Jesus guys, not a boxer girl. You seem like a
party girl and he seems not to be a partier.
How does that work out? Does he get jealous when
you're out? First of all, I used to be a

(31:20):
party girl.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I even seen that much partying on.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Your social maybe for a while. And also maybe might
follow me on my personal page, which is a private page,
and I don't let anybody.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Do need to probably cull that one a bit, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I do, because that used to be on public, and
then when I created my new page, I made that
private and it still has four thousand followers. So I
do need a color because I would like it to
be with my personal friends.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
It's a more typical young fit chick page, Yeah, where
you know you're in bloody bikini's and your bum hanging
out and then everyone likes it. Yeah, But if there's
a photo of just you don't like it as much,
So it's not so I understand that that's a natural
sort of the way social media's evolved in your social
media particular over time. Mostly our social media now is
very conscious, like we're not scared to share whatever we

(32:09):
want to share just because people are uncomfortable with it.
But we also don't just share it for the gratuitous
of Oh we want you to like it. We want
to write a lesson about this.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
There's value that we feel like we're providing in it. Yeah.
But yeah, so I used to party a lot. I
have spoken you know about this that during my teenage years,
I went a little bit off rails, if you want
to call it that, and I did party a lot.
So I've done the drinking, I've done the drugs. I'm
just going to be completely, you know, transparent about that.

(32:39):
We like that word. Yeah, so I used to be
a party girl. I used to love it. You know,
did you.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Build this just ties into another question, did you build
a reputation because of all the boys you hang out
with in those teen years, Because that's the way girls
like to negatively if you're not hanging out with them,
it's like, oh she's you know.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
No, not necessarily, my reputation was party girl, one of
the boys.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, So if you asked any of the people from
can or anyone that I hung out with, they would
know and you would know that I was one of
the boys. So I'd never hooked up with any of
the boys or it was just never my style.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I was very tom teenagers. I've always hated more teenas
or any age. I've always hated that the you know,
slut and whore, and that's sort of stuff that people
put on people like, you know, and that's a whole
other conversation about men conceipt as many people as want,
because if a woman does it, it's whatever, like welcome
to twenty twenty five. But yeah, I just wonder because
and I'm getting off topic here, but I'll come we'll

(33:38):
come back to that question, because you know, it's easy
to call women those names. Or when I was in
the army, if there because women were just starting to
come into the army, they were either called that name
or if they wouldn't sleep with you, oh they were
lesbians that had you because.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
It wasn't you, because it was nothing about it. If
she doesn't men in their egos, I feel like it's
still a little bit like that, like they'll they'll hit
you up and then if you don't reply, then they'll
be like, oh, you're ugly anyway, am I.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's actually happened to you? And I've in a context
that you know where someone's had something to say or
and then as soon as you've not responded or they've
gone it, you're not even hot. Okay, well why do Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah you are, because you're not even hot. No. First,
so first of all, yes, I used to be a
party girl, and I do not mind going to I
love to dance. I love to go out and have
a party. But I just don't do it as much
anymore because it doesn't align with my goals. You like

(34:43):
a drink, I love a drink. I love a cocktail.
You know I love a cocktail. I don't mind a wine.
I don't mind a beer. Where the sun shining, I go.
I'd love to have a cocktail right now, but because
it doesn't align with my goals, I don't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Just recently, I was in PNG and Milly was invited
to go for dinner with a couple of very close
friends and I said go, and she said, no, I
can't because I know I'm going to drink.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah for a fight, prefer not to She said, I won't, No,
because when I hang out with those guys.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
This is go back to last quite eve into this question, Like,
as a man, you've got to be comfortable with that.
I've got to because I said to it, You're not
making that decision because of me, are you? And you
said no, because if you know me that I but
I still like to make sure that you're never adjusting
a behavior just because because there are definitely things that
I have some insecurities around, but I try not to

(35:34):
throw them on you. I try to deal with them
as a man myself. There are things that that you've
been doing that I think you just need to process.
It's like an adult and it's not.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
And I would always reassure you how you needed to
be reassured. But in saying that, I wouldn't stop doing
those things because of your insecurities. And I'm not trying
to be like I do what I aren't, But what
I'm saying is I wouldn't continue to do them because
I know I'm not doing anything wrong, but I need
you to be comfortable with that. So I would always reassure.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
You the things that cause can tempt Eventually if you
start changing behaviors for someone. Yeah, eventually, like after Millie's
last fight, the boys were with us were staying in
A good friend of mine shout out to Michael. He
gave us some really nice apartment, a nice apartment on
the Gold Coast to stay for a few days, which
is amazing. And then the boys are getting tired. Even
before the fight night at ended MILLI had already fought

(36:24):
and we had a lot of good friends that came
to support you. And she said, I'm going to go
out with him, and I said, well, I'll take the
boys home. Obviously that's fine. Yeah, And I can't remember
the time you got home, but it's.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Not that late. I didn't. I got made fun of
by one or two in the morning, Yeah, something like that.
So I wanted to go to Macaz because I was
hungry and I hadn't had like a you know, cheat
meal or whatever you want to call it in so long,
and so I just wanted. I just wanted at Chrism spicy.
And Kenny was like, is that your night out? Is

(36:55):
that your night out? You're gonna have one drink. You're
going to have one drink and go to Maccus And
I'm like, stop it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
That's again in a relationship. Is that's part of my
role because whilst I coach you, and would I like
to have gone out in that instance, yeah, probably, But
it's more important that we parent the boys. And it's
already nine ten o'clock again late night for them, and
so I have no fear that you're going to do anything.
That's not the issue. But to answer the rest of

(37:23):
that question, from my point of view, I'm not a partier.
I don't really like social groups. I'm good in if
I'm standing on a stage, I can talk to two
thousand people. If I'm at a boxing event, coaching, whatever,
those are my places. But I'm not someone that wants
to dance. And it's not even that I'm self conscious aping.
I just don't like it. It's just not for me.

(37:43):
Like sometimes millions go and get over yourself, no one
really cares. It's not even that I just don't like it.
But I like you dancing. I would watch you dance.
But I'm boring at parties and I know that you
like to have a good time, and I think I'm
going to become the wet blanker. So I wish I
wanted to party, but I just don't.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But beyond just being a party girl, like you know,
I used to go out when I was young just
for a party, but then it developed into I actually
love music. All types of music, you know, whether it's
old music or whether it's new music, whether it's electro,
whether it's hip hop, whether it's R and B. I
love all sorts of music. So I have been to

(38:21):
so many different types of festivals because of my love
for music. Like I'm going to One Friday's Live and
Mariah Carey is headlining it, Like I cannot wait. I
cannot wait, you know, because I love music. I love
to dance. I love to show my appreciation for that music.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
You know, of course I won't go. As soon as
you were looking at that, I said, buy two tickets
and take a friend. Yeah, who are you taking that?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I'm taking Moss. So I just spoke about Moss and.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Then that was our shout because you know, that's the
sort of thing we like to do, checks and balances
in life. So I wouldn't classify myself as jealous at all,
because I wouldn't be buying a ticket for another mile
to go out.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And he buys me festival outfits, and I'm like, you
like dressing her up fair.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Festival. I've never been to a festival, yeah, but I
do like to buy your festival.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, Like he went through like I went to one
festival and then he started buying me all these festival outage,
which I really appreciate. I'm like, babe, I'm never gonna
wear this, like I go to one festival a year
if that so you need to stop. Yes, but I
have like this whole section of my wardrobe that's like
festival outfits. So now I'm spoilt for choice.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
But I don't think I get jealous. But there's I'm
a typical male or human in so many I just
always think I'm not a typical male, but I've learned
since Metha I am in so many ways. There's so
many traits I guess are inherently in us as males.
So I guess there is always some little bits of
jealousy around some things and certain people, and you know,

(39:49):
but it's again, you just have to deal with it yourself.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
I try really hard not to splash it on to you.
And I can be passive aggressive. I'm not aggressive at all.
I'm from my size and all, I'm naturally not an
aggressive human. I don't mind fighting back in the day,
but I'm not naturally aggressive and I would never be
aggressive towards a woman in anyone. That's just not in
my nature. However, it can be passive aggressive.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
You think, which I'm not a fan of either.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
You pull me up on a brief picture one hundred.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
And you're like, I'm not being passive aggressed.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I'm like, well, sometimes I'm not. You are sometimes what.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
You are, and then like maybe an hour later he'll
be like, lord, an hour later, he'll be like, look,
maybe I was no. I know, I know you are,
So how are you going to deal with that?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
So what's your answer to the rest of that question?

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I don't like I've said it, like you don't get jealous,
or maybe if you do, you don't make that an issue.
And again, if you do, I would always love to
have that conversation. And I'm not going to change that
behavior because I'm not doing anything wrong, but I will
always reassure you that I would not do anything to you,
you know, in that partying or festival sort of sense,

(40:59):
I go to have fun with my friends and I
have a great time, and we come home and it's
just really good fun for me. And I never want
to get to an age or like, well I'm too
old to go to a festival because it's music. Love.
Music always add to that, Like, for example, if I
didn't become a pet and a boxer, I wanted to
be Beyonce, and then beyond Beyonce took my job.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I want to just add to that. If if anyone
ever tells you they went out to anywhere, a pub,
an event, a festival, and they slept with someone because
they just got drunk, that's that's.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Absolutely leave goodbye Lee.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
So she can drink and do whatever and party and
be dressed however she wants to.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And I'm still low key a bit of a bitch
to men.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I also know that that's you would never come home
and go, Babe, I just got so drunk. That's that's
a lame excites.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I've been on the other side of that. I was
just so drunk. Boy Bye. It is boring.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Can I just finish on that one or just ask
a question? I guess you don't think it's an issue
that one person likes to do a thing, and we've
got a lot of similar goals, But there's also things
were really different in and that's never going to become
an issue for us.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I don't think so. I really really don't think so.
I think if it's going to be an issue at all,
it might be for you just because I'm the one
going to do that thing, do you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So I don't do much without you, really doing no
other than go to Kakota and stuff. So I don't know,
that's an interesting situation.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, I don't think it will become an issue because
I do feel like you guys, all people have to
have their every now and again, their own separate little things.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
We don't do a lot of part and recently I
went to Kakota, and we're in such a good place
at the moment. And I say that because on the
surface of watching all these you might think we're always
in a good place, but that's not real. That's not real.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
It's been pretty hard, really pretty rough started the relationship,
not between us, but just circumstance because.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
We do have young boys involved, we do have extra
partner relationship involved or within a pretty tight community, and we.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Do also have, which you guys have been privy to,
you know, negative feedback and negative connotations on our relationship.
So it hasn't been a walk in the park. But
you know, we love each other.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So there's that and sometimes you've just got to remember
that piece because even when we have a fight, it's
always been important to me that you know I love
you and that I don't and so I do change.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I don't have to call it a fight, maybe the disagreement,
because a fight is like yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well, yeah, I guess not to I'm a catastrophizer. Language god,
I'm a catastrophizer. So yeah, but whenever things don't go well,
and I actually am a catastrophizer because in the early
days in particular, it was always like, as soon as
the behavior happens, I think you're going to leave, because
that's my experience of life from my parents to everyone

(43:52):
in your life, you know. And so it's taught me
that I haven't dealt with things from when I was
fourteen and you think you have, but you just put
them away. Yeah, And I live such a strong like
I'm a very strong here, so people mold around me
and really doesn't. So that means the mirror shot on
you a little bit and you've got to face some things.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, but you two, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think we've both adjusted. So that's my other thing.
When people have relationships and they go people shouldn't try
and change you what a load of garbage. You should
mold to each other, which means you've both got to
give a little bit of ground. Yeah, someone shouldn't be
always been the one worked on and the other one
never changes. That doesn't make sense. But we've both got
a mold because we've had not fights, discussions or arguments

(44:37):
where where I've said we've you know, I've changed its behavior,
and then you go back, don't you think I've improved
in this area? Where Okay, yeah, that's true, because you
focus on yourself in that discussion and then you've changed
a lot of behaviors in whether it be anger or
those sort of things.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Keeping in mind that earlier in this podcast we said,
you know, if the behavior is not causing problems, then
it doesn't need to be changed, you know. Yeah, So
if it is, then you either need to decide that
this is not working out or we change the behavior.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Because put it into a positive behavior. You're really fit,
and so obviously that can be an attraction to someone
outside of getting to know you, just a physicality. So
if I go into a relationship with someone who's really
fit and they train three times a day, so this
is a positive. Everyone go, that's fine, and I'm happy
with that. Well, it's still a behavior. So what if
in six months ago, I don't like your training that
much anymore. Yeah, but you did it at the start.

(45:32):
How do you not like it now?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
So every behavior that another human has that's not hurting
you and that's not illegal. Those are the two things
that mostly you have to worry about in life. You're
not hurting someone else, if you're not doing anything illegal,
you should do you absolutely, And so yeah, don't try
and change everything about someone when that was literally what
attracted you to them, even if you didn't know it
was what attracted you to them. That package of a human,

(45:56):
Everything they do that got them to that point in
life that attracted you to them, you know, has got
to be that's who they Are'd be like if you
did like how confident I speak, or didn't like how
much content I do, Because even if we've had a
disagreement and we're not feeling great, I'll still record a podcast,
I'll still do a video. And it would be easy
to look at that and go, you don't care about
no I do. But what I'm putting out there is

(46:17):
important to me as well. So if you then said
I don't like putting that stuff out there, well that'd
be crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I guess the negative behaviors that we've spoken about on
our relationship would be my temper and how quickly I
react to things. And you know, instead of me going, oh,
that's just who I am, that's something that I could
change for us to be better, or how you just said,
maybe you might get defensive and a little bit passive, aggressive.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Very defensive.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, we can change, and we can develop and we
can grow because we want to stay together, and if
we don't change those behaviors, we.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Will thing what you just said then that we want
to stay to here. That's the thing that's helped me
make more adjustments than anything you've ever said to me,
is that I think about the bigger picture, and the
bigger picture is do I love this woman and do
I want to stay with her? And the entry is
always yes, then I'm going to adjust what my natural
response feels like it should be to what I know
better for me and you in the long term.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Whilst keeping your own core values.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
So yeah, that's very deep.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I know. Teers all right, I've got one more so,
and this one is very similar considering the age gap.
How do you guys deal with differences in music taste,
a fashion sense, what you consider leisure or fun activities, etcetera, etcetera.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Well, I alsoy with music. You've got such a broad taste.
Rellie can hear music that I've not even heard before,
and I yet to find a song. She doesn't know
the words.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I've listened to. And I used to be obsessed by music.
So if anyone is from the Lime, I'm sure my
age but LimeWire. So yeah, So if you were hard
on lime Wire, any song that I'd hear, I would
try and find it, and so I find it on
Lime wy and I had on Windows Media Player. I

(48:03):
had like an extensive range of music on my laptop
one Windows Media players, so and all I used to
do was have my headphones on and I used to
listen to music, music, music, music, music, And I was
always the one in our friendship group who would find
the song and then show the group the song. And yeah,
so for a large part of my life I was
obsessed by music. I still am. And so there is
a lot of songs that I do know, and I

(48:24):
have a very wide range of.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Breat this question down piece. But where's the Music's never
been issue because we've got different tastes, and there are
plenty of times where I listened to very much the
same playlists all the time. I've got sort of two
one I called fields, which is just more chill, and
then one that's you know, I've just called it a
one because I wanted to be at the top of
my list, which is more when I'm training, and it's
called a short shart playlist. It's now really long. But

(48:49):
Millie has such a broad taste that I'll often say
to you, do you want to play your music because
I prefer to listen and all his songs I've never
heard before sometimes or and some of these are like
I'm talking eminem and stuff I grew up with as
well through the nineties, but I just hadn't herds. They
weren't main stream ones, and you're and you know all
the words, and I'll go, I've never heard this, and
you'll tell me what the album was on for. So

(49:10):
we do have I think we're pretty good in that area.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
And shout out to Linda, my mum. She introduced me
to a lot of her music, which when I was young,
and at the time, I'm what he listened to. But
now I actually love everything that she's ever shown me.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
So voy and music'slame either way.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, listen and we'll play a song. And oh, this
is a fortnight song. No, this is a song from
my era. Music fashion said, I love the pink shirt, babes.
So if you're watching or if you're listening, jump on
the YouTube because he's wearing a gorgeous pink shirt.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
So typically, I've always loved black, and I used to
say to people, and I only ever wore black, and
I'd say to people, all wear black until we come
up with a darker color.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
That used to be my funeral black.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
But I do like color, it's just it's not something else.
I used to wear a lot, But mostly I'm a
jeans and T shirt or just in PTG. That's most
in my life. And then ninety eight percent of our
room is Millie's wardrobe, so she has options and so
she can wear amazing things. But I can still get
away with jeans and a T shirt next to that. Yeah,

(50:19):
I mean, yeah, there's not often. There's a couple of
things that jcpeople. Last year, I were a suit I
did like you in that. I feel like a cop
when I'm in a suit issue. Stop it, where's a handcustery?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I don't think it's.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
But there are times where you've also bought me stuff
and said suggested that might be a good outfield.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah. Yeah, like that get up that we bought for
the boat party. That was very nice. I do like
that on you. So yeah, I think fashion senses like
I'm mostly in PT gear to be fair or in
active war because I trained so much throughout the day
that I just am in that war.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I've never washed because I like to do a lot
of the washing at home. I've never washed so much
p tea in my life. And you'll train three times
a day and she sweats.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Hard, so I can't wear the same thing. I've got
to get.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
It's a full change. Yeah, it's pretty hectic. And then
the boys are athletic.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I know, and then it's just dolphins gear. Oh p
T gear. Yeah yeah, so yeah, fashion sense, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
But if you made a suggest to me, i'd try it.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Yeah as well.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I'm not that sort of bloke. I'll try it if
you think it's good. I don't give it anyone else.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
It's like. You know, a lot of people will be like,
oh men, doot, we're pink. That's very progressive, you know,
see it well.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
But also I am that sort of bloke that I
don't really care about that. Yeah, as in, you know,
I'll wear whatever I want to wear. If i'm comforting.
I like this. I don't know what the brand is.
I bought four or five of these, but they're a
nice fitting ship they feel and they're soft and they
feel comfort And then I've got a few different colors,
including black, just because that's what I like. But if
you suggested something to me, I would certainly try it. Yeah,

(52:01):
and then it's similar similar, I guess I've I often
will see dress or things online that I'll buy for
you that I like, but I've got an idea what
your fit is. And mostly these days and every now
and then we get it wrong because it's an online thing.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Mostly. There was one you bought the other day which
we have to wear somewhere, which is amazing.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I'm just looking for an event to go to so
I can wear that dress some o poly shout out
to the girls if you want to. I was looking
through that website the other night and I was like,
I would wear anything and everything on this website. So
if you're looking for something, no matter what the occasion
or what the event, is O poly amazing. And one
of my favorites is Joel Brown. Very expensive, very pricey,

(52:41):
but very worth it. And it's all in US dollars,
So don't let the amount for you because when you
go to the checkout you'll be like, oh my god,
cleasure asked at the card, and then don't check your
account after and then don't don't pay rent.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I think it's kind of cool to be actively involved
in what each other wears. Yeah, you know, it's we
don't live like silos. We're very much in each other's lives.
And I was going to say, I hope that will
say that will stay the same, or we won't have
this relationship because you know, people grow apart, which is

(53:17):
absolute garbage, but that's because you allow that to happen.
You both taking your own paths and doing your own thing,
and we don't do that. And on the occasion I
can get really busy, because you know, I'm a bit
of I do get addicted to working and the stuff
we're building, and you'll put me into line so I
just don't feel like you give me any attention lately,
and I think that's crazy because I give you more

(53:38):
attention than any human I've ever been around.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
But to be fair, I don't do it often. I'll
just come and sit on your up and you tell
me I'm working, and then I'll be like, okay, maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
But you'll just tell me if you don't think i'm
You know, there are time tell you when you walk
down the stairs you say you didn't even notice what
I was wearing. Okay again in the car, And I
think used to think that's not that big a deal
because I do say it a lot or whatever. But
being able to communicate that without being scared of your
partner's reaction, that's important, I think so, and I think

(54:10):
we both do that pretty well.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
And then the last part of that question was talking
about what we consider fun, So how how that differs,
And I guess we just touched on that before, like
going out and stuff like that. But even though we
don't do it often, but I will say that I
love our life, so that is fun for me. So
what we do together sport, the kids sport. I love

(54:33):
going to the kids sport, which we can't. Highlight of
my weekend is going to watch the kids play sport.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, and even just going to a pub and when
we know they have a cosmo because Mill loves a cosmo.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
A good one anyway, because some people can't.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Make a drink and I've learned to make.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
A cost love yea, How hard is it to find
a good costmo? Like, It's not even that hard to
make anyway.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
So you know, and we enjoy and we our other
thing which probably people don't know about us, is we
play cards a lot.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yes, wherever we go. We could go to a fine
dining and we'll pull the cards out.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Into movement in Britain when we're playing cards and the
stuff thought it was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Who's winning?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Obviously it was me obviously, So yeah, I just yeah,
I enjoy our relationship and me too.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I think we have a lot of fun together and
I just love hanging out with you.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Am I best? Actively building a relationship would be my
advice to people. I don't ever think that we're there
because we're going to be changing and as we get older,
and I have concerns about our relationship in the sense
of which this is I'm just sorry that you're out
of the blue as a man and you're aging. You
worry about your sexuality.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I did very well, I might add, thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
But you do worry about how you perform sexually over time,
and that's I don't think it's an issue yet, but
then I think seven years time, I'm sixty and you're
still going to be in your thirties and you know,
just but still in your thirties. And so there's definitely
things that I think about and I worry about, and
I've got to start be more conscious about my health.
I don't do any supplements, never have, but now I

(56:11):
do because it really looks after that because she takes
a lot of supplements and knows.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
What not a lot, but I take that a few
vital ones and then you have to drink them as well,
and is so bad that poison slowly slowly? No, I
haven't our stop you should get it.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
But yeah, So those are all Rather than freak out
too much, I've just got to work out how do
I look after myself in relation to that, And I
guess we always have to have open communication around that stuff.
We've been asked questions around sex, not a lot, but
a few. We haven't really wanted to go there yet
because I don't know if it's such.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
A personal preference thing. I feel like it's like you
do you about your sex life, Like it's not we're
not going to give our opinions or our advice on
that because everyone is super different.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I can understand if it's like I can understand now
as a man in my fifties, because I've not had
a close relations with my father. So who do you
get advice from? Right? Like through my thirties and forties,
I just I was just learning stuff myself.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I guess most people do anyway.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, but I think if you have good relationships with
you can learn things like you know, men used to
learn young men used to learn to shave off their dads. Okay,
that's not always a thing anymore so, and now kids
are learning off YouTube and TikTok, and I, particularly as
the boys get older, I want to be able to
help them with that stuff. And I want to have
such a relationship that when sexual questions come up, because

(57:33):
that is a confusing age. And I've moved out of
home at fourteen, so I learned everything. I wasn't someone
that would ask questions. I was very shy as a
young man.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Who's that YouTuber and he started quite a few years ago,
probably even a decade ago, how to Dad? I think
I was like, that's such a great idea for young
men who don't have a dad.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And it's also sad that it is sad, but it's.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
You know, he saw a gap.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
And he took again, men won't ask questions.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Yeah, and so he put out all tutorial videos on how.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
To He just stopped recently did he say he was
about stop up?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
But it's like, you know, he teaches you things based
on if you was your dad or if you don't
have a dad or beautiful.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I guess if people ask questions that they're too shy
to ask anyone else, why wouldn't we answer them? My guess.
But it's just something to consider. We don't want to
give away our life in that area because it's yeah,
people are voyeurs in their own way. It might not
just be information, but yeah, there are certainly things that
we could we could touch on and talk about. Yeah,

(58:35):
good episode. Yeah, So I just want to say to people,
keep the questions coming.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Like we've put out more ng OL links. We haven't
put out a lot, you know, because we have so
many questions to touch on, but we might put out
one this week.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And yeah, and if people are you know, I know
people have opinions of us, and that's fine. We have
we're public, we put ourselves out in the public. But
if there's ever anything that I felt was too offensive,
it just won't get aired. Yeah, We're not compelled to
answer everything. So if you want to ask genuine questions,

(59:09):
no matter how challenging you think they'll be, I'm up
for that. And if I look at the question I
think there's value in that for people, or I understand
why you might be asking it, I will definitely answer it.
If I think you're just trying to be nasty, I'll
just kick it through to the keeper. We're all good, like.
I'm not going to participate in that if I don't
need to.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah, and keep in mind that we ain't in no
way experts on any topic whatsoever. This is just based
on our experiences and what we think and our opinions. Yeah,
we probably has one.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Absolutely, we probably should do an episode, and we've talked
doing an episode on the fact that we both have
a belief in different we verbalized it slightly differently in
the fact that we're not special. Nobody special. There are
very few special humans in the world in history ever, Yeah,
very few. And I'm thinking Nelson Mandela's your mother trays it.
There's certain people that we all know a name, be

(01:00:00):
it athletically or in other areas. We're not that. We're
very ordinary people. And I think that's what helps what
I do differently, and I know really does different everyone else,
is that when we make a decision to do something,
we go after it pretty hard. And I think every
single one of you watching or listening has that capability.
And therefore, if you get anything from us, I hope

(01:00:22):
it's that there's a thing I want to do and
I haven't been sure if I'm good enough to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Where you are and I'm going to try this thing.
If it's humanly possible, it's within your reach.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, So keep you out for the next end your
link and hit us with more questions.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Have a good week.

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