July 22, 2024 • 46 mins
Actor, singer & extremely talented dancer Zac Efron soared and flied into our hearts while starring in High School Musical, but this doesn’t mean we can overlook his many misadventures. Welcome to the Cancelled courtroom Mr Efron, there are no shirts allowed in here.
Remember the last time we saw Zac in a courtroom, he made us want to find a man like serial killer Ted Bundy? We'll also address the time he engineered an indoor fountain accident with a team of researchers. And who could forget the condom saga?
Can Zac be let off free of charge because his eyes are too dreamy? We (reluctantly) beg to differ!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to Cancel, the
podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as science,
(00:34):
charges and sentences so we can all get on with
our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens.
And Claire, do you have a lazy girl story for
us today? I do it as a bit of a
personal one. All right, Okay, it's not what happens when
you haven't been through the well exactly. So we were
on holidays recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we were traveling
(00:54):
with an icon mom. Yeah. And Mom just had a
line which I thought would resonate a lot with lazy
girls everywhere. She was sitting on a couch when we
were in the south of France and she had a
book in front of her. Yeah, she said, I could read.
I want to read, Yeah, but I prefer to be
on TikTok. And I just thought, wow, that's it, isn't it.
(01:19):
That's it. It's it, and it's not just about reading,
it's about work. I think that a lot I got
I could be working, but I'd rather be on, But
I'd rather be on TikTok. And I thought, it's just
one of those moments where somebody says the unsaid lazy.
She's a lazy girl. There is something really liberating about
the other day. You know. I found myself with an
(01:40):
hour and I thought, you could exercise, could do laundry,
house has messy, got work to do. And I found
myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting into my bed
and going, we're gonna have some TikTok uninterrupted TikTok time.
There was a meme going around that was like, oh,
what's your bedtime routine? These are the nine evidence based
(02:02):
things that I've built into my routine. I followed the
perfect nighttime routine. Welcome to my night routine. Well, it's
ninety minutes of TikTok, That's what it is. Nineteen minutes
before I'm going to go to sleep. I get up
my phone and I start to scroll, and I lose
myself and any sense of time. It's funny because I
always say I'm not a routine person. I can't do routine. Well,
(02:24):
the one part of my routine that doesn't labor. It's
hours and I'm talking our hours. Yeah. Everyone says, oh,
you've got time to excite. No, I don'ry. I'm busy.
I don't have time. Well, because I got TikTok. Time
very important, always and sacred. You are about to enter
(02:45):
the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty,
the rulings are final. Today we're talking about zach Efron.
This could be the start with something news. What a
(03:06):
weird right, Maybe the world could be so I just
woke up and fucking jailed. What a budget penises on
my forehead. Frost before hose right, yeah, man, junk before truck.
Zachary David Alexander E. Fro Such a hot night, sir,
(03:27):
I challenge you to have another. First name was born
in nineteen eighty seven in California. In high school, Efron
described himself as having been the class clown, I believe it,
and there he started singing lessons. He started acting in
the early two thousands, and one of his first roles
was in one of the greatest medical dramas of all time.
(03:48):
Er here are some irrelevant and blurry images. Oh my god.
You know he's on the table, and then the second
image is him with the doctor from me are Yeah,
they have recently reunited in the Iron Clare because she
was the mother in the Iron Clare. I know it's
Oh my god, because in Iron Claw I was like,
(04:09):
where do I know that woman? The turning point for
zac Efron came in two thousand and six with a
teen musical television film called High School Musical. This Something
It feels. So there's a controversy there, which we will
(04:30):
get to. He then start in Hairspray before doing High
School Musical two, followed seen every Zach from movie No
You Have, followed by a High School Musical three. My
prom is wherever you are. Some of his other movies
include Bad Neighbors. You've seen that, Bad Babies too. You've
seen that. We are gonna end the year with the
most legendary rager of all time. I'm talking even bigger
(04:52):
than last year's White Trash Bash. Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah?
Oh yes, I actually think they Watch is an excellent film. Really,
I never watched it. Okay, The Greatest Showman. You've watched that?
Most recently The Iron Claw. You've watched that ever since
I was a child. People said my family was cursed. Well,
I'm trying to protect with God. Oh, try to protect
(05:13):
us with wrestling. And have you seen a family affair?
Is that brand new? Yeah, you haven't seen on my Netflix.
Haven't say it yet? Okay, no, have not seen it.
You can't animated films because we talk about animated film
with zac Efron, but like you definitely haven't seen that
something you failed to mention. Sorry, are you getting to it? What? Yes? Okay,
shut up? Wait me meeting him this is the next Sorry.
(05:38):
I couldn't give it in anymore. But before we get
into it, Claire, I just wanted to make sure that
you haven't had any experiences that may prejudice the jury,
like say, having met zach Efron or anything of that.
I reckon. I've mentioned it on this podcast close through
one hundred times. I did interview zach Efron, dis guy.
(05:58):
He was doing greatest showman. I interviewed zach Efron and Zendia.
Zach Efron is one of the most beautiful people I've
ever sat opposite. Elaborate it's his eyes for me and
I went in and the eye contact. You know those
people who they say like they have like a real
presence and eye contact, did not take his eyes off
me to the point what I walked out thinking, there's
(06:20):
a love story that just blossomed between us. I didn't
hear from him in the aftermath, so you thought he
was very charismatic, very charismatic, funny. I'm trying to find
the video on YouTube. Do you know, Oh, we should
reachhare the video because speaking of lazy girl, one thing
that I never got my head around. I still don't
(06:41):
get my head around. I'm quite oily in the face. Yeah,
and it was a hot summer's day and I was nervous,
and I went in and I did this interview and
it looks like my face is dripping. It's the word.
It sucks because he would with and front And it's
the worst because that clip went viral because some fan
clipped it to say there was a moment of chemistry
(07:02):
between Sendaia and clearly the chemistry between me and him.
I've seen the video of the body slam, did you
guys any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment. That's one
of the things about being a part of the musical
is that's you're ashamed of it. Yeah, something goes wrong.
You have to get rid of the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly,
because if you've lived that way, you seriously will never
(07:24):
get anything accomplished. But it's literally got millions of views,
and there I am with the wettest face you do
you've ever seen. Even my friends messaged me being like,
why don't you put some powder on? And I was like, well,
I didn't know. I was in a rush. I was
in a rush, I was dressed. I was concentrating on
my questions. But I think I've said on this podcast before, Yeah,
zac Efron, all the vibes then day are not as much,
(07:49):
only because she was very young and she was on
her phone. She's on her phone. You didn't lie that?
Where Zach? And you were like it even is? And
next minute, next minute, how embarrassing. I like zac Efron
because I think it's sexy when he dances, and I
thoroughly enjoyed the greatest showman. I also think he's funny.
He was a real laugh and bad neighbors. Did you
know that it's actually just neighbors? Yes, in America. Yeah,
(08:12):
he's a fun guy, and I get that sense that
he'd be a real fun person to her sense of
human My structure for today is as follows, High School
Musical and an Awkward Truth, A condom and a red carpet,
an altercation with a homeless man, the film New Year's Eve,
making the worst serial killer of all time, sexually arousing,
and finally face high School Musical and an Awkward Truth.
(08:38):
In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts
on the Disney Channel, and many say it's a modern
adaptation of Romeo and juliet Ah. The film became an
enormous success with these young people with their singing and
they're dancing. I remember I was sick one time and
(09:01):
I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. Watch
a high school musical and it's great. It was really great.
I've never watched it. It's the music for me. Well,
it's not zac Efron's voy what that's Drew's voice, which
begs the question, who the fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes,
not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley is a lovely young man
(09:25):
who loves to sing. He has been in some musicals
and some television and movies. But Zach. Everyone can sing.
Zac Efron can sing, so why didn't they use his voice. Well,
I'm getting okay. Sorry, I'm just okay, Efron said later
in an interview. In the first movie, after everything was recorded,
my voice was not on them. I was not really
given an explanation. It just kind of happened that way. Unfortunately,
(09:48):
it put me in an awkward position. It's not something
I expected to be addressed then high school musical blew up.
I'm very fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and
also that I've gotten the opportunity to come back and
try it again with my own voice. He's very talented.
I consider myself a regular kid that can carry a tune.
The party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone
(10:08):
is quite low. Yeah, R and all of Troy Bolton's
songs I've written for TENA, which is high. Yeah. Of course,
so Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it
Drew tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud.
I read some interviews with Drew and I'm gonna say
(10:28):
that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not being mean,
but his most recent achievements are like web series. So
I just don't feel like he's Dak Cavron. He did though,
and he'll have, you know, help with the lyrics for
get your head in the game outside keep you in
the game. But then I went and looked up lyrics
(10:50):
get you. It's very get to hnd the game. It's
very gets your head. It's get your head in the game.
I gotta, I gotta get my head in the game.
Do you think he helped with the lyrics get your
head in the game. Maybe he changed it from get
your head in the game to get you because that
is it's officially gets your head in the game. And
it was I think it was nominated for an Emmy
or something. Oh wow, yeah, ye yeah, and Drew saying it.
(11:11):
Efron did sing in the next two movies. There's ship
between Fron and Drew. I'll say that there's tension because
Drew's like, well, I didn't see Efron a lot because
I was there when he wasn't there. Make that lip
sincing so good? It's not not a thing. So it
happened during the Olympics, and there was like this person
who was like the voice of the Olympics when it
(11:33):
was in China, and she was remarkable. But it wasn't
her voice. She had like star power, but she didn't
have the chops to pull it off. That's what's so
remarkable about saying Nicki Webster is that you know she
was Nicky Webster plus vocals. And with Zach, I think
(11:54):
Drew was a few years older as well, and so
he was like, I would have looked weird next to
Vanessa Hudgens, and I'm like, yeah, that's maybe what all.
Maybe not Zach Efron Drew. We do have some very
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condom and a red carpet. It's twenty twelve and twenty
four year old Zac Efron is on the red carpet
for the premiere of his film Claire. Have you seen
(13:20):
this the Lorax? No? Is that animated? Yeah? Okay, yeah,
that's why, because I sorry, I'm gonna need to see Yeah.
If I'm going to the movie, it's to see him.
I'm gonna need to see you. Yeah. And as an aside,
in that movie, he lends his voice to a twelve
year old, so he's kind of playing a twelve year old,
but he's twenty four. So, mom, do you happen to
know if there's like any place where I could get
(13:43):
a real tree? Anyway, he's trying to pose with his
hands in his pockets. He's got like a cool pose
and like sunglasses on and stuff. He's looking good, skinny,
Jean's absolutely height of the skinny jeans moment, and he
can't quite fitty his hands him. I was gonna say
out loud, probably because he has a big dick, but
I decided against it. So do you think he'd have
(14:04):
a big dick. I think he'd have a lovely love
would be lovely. But Pat's time, Yeah, just a lot
going on, you know what. Rather than that, I think
it's actually quite beautiful bottom. He's got a booty, Yeah,
he's got a booty. So he can't get his hands in,
so he empties his pockets and he kind of goes
and gives it to the usher, like, oh, I should
just take outlets in my pockets. And as he does that,
something falls out onto the orange carpet and it is
(14:24):
a silver like an aluminium square, and it is a
condom or as Americans say, condom, a condom, a condom.
The condom drop happened with this movie poster in the background.
Please describe the movie poster. Doctor zeuses the law axe
and it's like it's it's from the creators of Despicable Media,
(14:47):
and it's clearly for children. Is for children, you see,
it was a children's movie and their twelve year old
had just dropped a condom mmmm on the orange so
that he didn't catch chlamydia. I would assume this is irrelevant,
that is it. There was someone else who voiced in
that film, and it was Taylor Swift, And all I'm
(15:09):
saying is that when he had a condom in his pocket,
m who was he going to use it on? Okay, well,
so my theory here that was one hundred percent a
pr stunt. Claire actually brought the video to show you
because I want you to tell me whether you think
this is on purpose or not, because the more I
(15:30):
watch it, the more I think it is genuinely an accident. Okay,
all right, because it's very hard to act taking things
out of your pocket and just dropping one of the things.
Here we go so we can see him. He's just
on the red carpet. He's then like, all right, I'm
going to get these things. And I got some receipts,
maybe some lip bum, maybe a coin or two. And
he's handing it to the usher and something's just dropped
(15:52):
on the floor. He's very quickly picked it up, put
it back in his pocket and needs that and now
he is mortified. He's putting sunglasses on, he's breathing deeply,
he's covering his mouth, he's looking the other way and laughing.
He is and I do think he's a brilliant actor.
But that is an A grade. Can I guess you
could interpret it either way. I mean, I think it
(16:14):
didn't hurt his career. Let's just say that because he's like,
I you know, it's very I have sex. Okay, That's
what I was gonna say. Is you know when you're young,
like in high school, and everyone's like, oh no, my
my condoms are falling out of my wallet. Yeah, and
it's like, okay, no answer, and you're obsessed with your
(16:35):
own erect painters. It's very that, which is weird because
he's twenty four, Like that's a little bit old. Yeah,
but it's very when you're sing around with your friends
and everyone's like, let's plea, Like, never have I ever
that it's threesome? I have, Like it's that. It's very that.
So after The law Axe, he went on to play
roles where he was actually an adult, like The Lucky
(16:57):
One and Bad Neighbors. I've seen the Lucky One is excellent.
He returns from war I believe that's a And Okay,
you know who's in the lucky one is the woman
who ended up being the main woman. You know well
said so the question is in this was he saying
I need condoms because I use my penis sexually. I'm
(17:18):
an adult man with an erection. Yeah, is that what
I represent? And I reckon it was very like, I'm
not a Disney star anymore. Yeah, see, I need a condom.
What do you use condoms for? My dig nice an
altercation with a homeless man. There comes a point in
every Disney star's career where they have an altercation with
a home. In twenty fourteen, Efron reached that moment. So
(17:44):
he's in the skid Row area of Los Angeles. Yep,
I've seen that on Keeping Up with It has one
of the largest stable populations of homeless people in the US,
and the police are called. They have one story. Efron
has a slightly different one. I'll start with the police.
The police reported that the fight started after midnight when
Efron threw a bottle out of the window of his car,
which shattered right near a group of homeless people. Efron
(18:07):
was ultimately punched in the face and police found him
and his bodyguard fighting with several homeless men under an overpass.
No one was arrested because it was considered mutual combat,
and one source described Efron as heavily intoxicated. Efron says
him and a friend were searching for something to eat
downtown and they ran out of petrol, so he had
to pull over. He said, a homeless guy or vagrant
(18:30):
tapped on the driver's side window. Before I knew it,
my friend was out of the car. They started fighting.
I saw the homeless man was carrying some sort of
knife or shank, and I got out of the car
to disarm him. He said that being punched in the
face was the most terrifying moment in his life. Interestingly,
it was around this time that Efron decided to get sober,
and he completed a stint in rehabs the drug and
(18:52):
alcohol abuse interested. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah,
he kind of disappeared for a little while, and he's
spoken a fair bit about it, like how all the
things that you get offered and struggling with addiction and
going to AA and that sort of thing. I'm not
happy with that story. I don't believe that you just
happened to run out of petrol in front of a
homeless person. I think he went to start a fight
(19:15):
or somebody he was with. My thing is always, oh, okay,
we pulled over to get something to eat. What was
after midnight? Had you don Yeah? You go through drive
through macas after midnight? Everyone knows that. Yeah, like what
we're looking for. And he's like, oh, we couldn't find
somewhere to eat the mate, it's twelve thirty. Yeah, everyone's closed.
Letter you watch go home and have some toast, Yeah,
like everyone else. The film New Year's Eve. We've spoken
(19:38):
at length on this podcast about the twenty ten film
Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer in Hollywood. Two
Jessica's a Julia, two tailors. I could go on, but
so did New Year's Eve. What we haven't spoken about
enough is the poor cousin of Valentine's Day, New Year's
Bradley Cooper Bradley Cooper twenty eleventh film, utilizing the exact
(20:02):
same formula by this point, the extent to which everyone
just wanted to make love actually, but no one could.
No Americans couldn't. No. Can you just throw another name
that was in nears e Ah, who just can you remember?
It's a real strange mish match. I'll tell you that.
(20:22):
That's what I mean. That's why it's kind of hard,
because by this point I think the actors in Valentine's
Day had realized Jennifer Garner, No, I think the actors
in Valentine's Day had realized that something terrible had happened,
and they refused to ever work on a project again
that claimed to be like love actually but actually the
(20:44):
makers of Valentine's dates at around a table and said,
through gritted teeth, there are some actors left, There are
some did any crossover? Yeah? Okay, And so came New
Years Eve. Two actors crossed over. I'll show you this image.
Just start yelling out. Can I guess who crossed over?
And then you have to tell me who crossed over? Okay?
So news Eve has Jessica Biel. Did she do that? Yeah? Yep, Okay,
(21:08):
We've got Sarah just car Parker, yeah, uh, Catherine Heigel interesting,
she was picking up scraps Hashton cicture. Some of them
I can't name, I just know their faces. You got
a Hilary Swang, Robert de Niro, Josh dem he was
with the chick from the Black Eyed Peas for a moment.
(21:28):
Who else, Liam Michelle, Hilary Swank, perhaps who else crossed
over Ashton? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and right in
the middle that zacky boy. Yeah. The plot is that
it follows several couples and singles in New York City
over the course of New Year's Age. I was on
(21:48):
the IMDb page and it said award nominations, so I
clicked read the awards of nominations. H Worst Actress, Sarah
Tska Parker, Worst Director Gary Marshall, Worst ensemble the entire cast,
Worst picture, and worst screenplay. What how it an achievement? Claire?
(22:12):
The film is terrible and I loved every minute. I
actually think and I will die on this hill. That
front was a standout. Yeah. Can you remember the best
scene in the movie. You can, you can, It's just
below the surface. Sorry, I was just thinking about the
other dating, which is excellent. I'm sorry, but he picks
(22:34):
excellent films, excellent film, great mixture. I remember watching that
movie and being like you really captured like a relation,
Like there's a little bit funny. After the movie ends
and the credits roll. We just get to watch Zach dancing.
Do you remember this? He kisses Michelle Faiffer. How are
you doing twice your age? Find a resolution? Didn't I
(22:59):
kiss who? You see? Check it off? Yeah? Oh I
forgot to mention is in it, which just says everything
about the cast, share the poster. You know it's a
big movie when oh, yeah it is, doesn't look okay? Yeah, yeah,
And there's a lot of people that are vaguely famous
and I don't know the name. Yeah, yep, I'm gonna
saw this same Okay, yeah, I forgot yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay,
(23:21):
right right off the lights. We're gonna lose our night.
What dearly to me? To me a feeling? Okay. The
thing about zac Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he
commits a hundred and a million percent, and he goes
such a good dance. This is a routine and you
(23:42):
can actually imagine him in the club. You can imagine
him in the club. He dances like Travis Kelcey be
the hottest person. Yes, in fact, in Iron Clare, did
you notice that there's a scene where he dances at
his wedding and it's just fifteen seconds. I reckon in
his contract. Yeah, every he's on I'm a great dancer,
(24:05):
So in every contract for every movie, there has to
be a dance break. It stole the film for him,
so everyone leaves going terrible film. Great Dan, I really
liked that. Raise a glass. Yeah, that was fun. That
was fun at the end, and it goes through the
whole cast and it's like, and Michelle Phiffer is like,
you know, over the age of forty, so she's basically
(24:26):
got a walking stick. Then it's like, how lucky is
she that zac Efron is doing a jig in front
of her and so sexy. It was just a high
for him because he wasn't playing a four year old.
His voice isn't dubbed, he wasn't dropping a condoc making
the worst serial killer of all time arousing zac Efron
is hot, beautiful, sexy and as aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy
(24:49):
was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped, and murdered
dozens of young women and girls in the nineteen seventies.
He confessed to thirty murders, but the true number is
not known, and in twenty nineteen, director Joe Berlinger, who
is fascinated by Bundy, released a film called Extremely Wicked,
Shockingly Evil and Vile, starring Zac Efron as a sea killer.
(25:10):
It took me over a decade to look at this
phoow what happened to her head? She was still positive,
in the words to animals, could have conceivably done something
like animals, don't do that. I'm not a bad guy.
Seen it, seen it. Efron was also a producer. Talk
(25:33):
to me about it because I haven't seen it. Actually,
you haven't seen it. No, you've actually seen it every
every day. No, it's good. Well, there was a lot
of criticism. Do you recall the criticism at the time. No,
that was everywhere. I remember everywhere. Wrote an opinion piece
and it was summed up by the Washington Post, who
said the film failed to distance itself from the glorification
(25:55):
of Bundy. The point was, according to critics, that Bundy
was hot, so no one could believe he would be
capable of such a barrn crime. But like, yes, and
that was the vibe of the film, But that was
also the vibe of Ted Bundy in real life. Yes,
But their point was that the film was therefore unable
to do justice to the sheer volume of horror, and
(26:16):
that the fact he was hot in ordinary and blah
blah blah. It was like the dominant narrative at the time.
It was like it was broadcast and all these women
were looking at it, going, look, he's gorgeous, blah blah blah.
It's like you're telling the same story we've already heard.
Rather than doing any justice to any of his victims,
I know what they mean, we moved past him. Yeah.
Efron's performance was criticized because he didn't possess the malice
(26:38):
required and it sort of just perpetuated the stereotypes that
the press did during Yeah, like he got the hot
part right. Yeah. But actually, even when I think about it,
I don't even know if they showed the violence and
the horror. No, I don't think they did. No, it
was more like he's a normal guy who lives with
his wife. I think part Yeah, if you had a
(26:59):
relative that was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be furious.
You'd be like, Yeah, it was very like he's a
new heart throat film. By the way, beat dubs it's
Ted Bundy. Yeah, read this tweet. It's a picture of
Zac Efron. Look I actually didn't think he was at
his hottest in this he was playing Ted Bundy. No, no,
but it just wasn't really his style. Like his hair
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was like curled and he had bow ties and stuff.
It's a tweet that says, Hi, I'm Ted Bundy and
you're watching disney Town. It's a confusing pivot. It's a
confusing pivot. This very much is what the vibe was.
Read that tweet, I feel so bad for the families
of the victims that have to sit there and see
their terrors revived as a witty, romantic thriller. Yeah, and
(27:41):
then read this tweet down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes
murders and estimated one hundred sex workers and child You're
but we need to see his charismatic side. Oh my god.
Plus he was so hot. Yeah, okay that And look
I looked at images of Zac Efron next to Ted Bundy,
and I know it isn't the point of the podcast.
It's just it's just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance.
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I mean, but then again, that happens with like generations,
I know, But I just I think we've really over
egged how hot Ted Bundy was I've often thought that. Anyway,
I sort of agree with you that Twitter missed the
point a little bit. Like the film was obviously meant
to contrast the charisma and the ordinariness with what the
guy did. And zac Efron was a producer, so he
(28:25):
knew what he was trying to do. And obviously it
was a career pivot he was stepping out of like
you know, he'd done New Year's Eve, Yeah, and he
needed to go and he done Game. I'm going to
be a serious actor. Yeah, who should I play? Ted Bundy? Yeah,
I'm going to play ten and so but we've kind
of the problem is that he was too sexy. Yeah,
(28:47):
which is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry, speaking of him
being a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dhan Clare, He's
gonna win award. Oh, he's so brilliant. He's just so excellent,
a great actor. He'll be Eve and I go, you
were great then, Yeah, but mark my words, he'll be
winning an Academy Award in the next few years. Not
for A Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a movie
(29:16):
out on Netflix called A Family Affair. Because I can't
play a blind alcoholic. It goes against my iconography. My
eyes are too pretty to not be on camera. I
told you we'd see your eyes starring Nicole Kidman, Joey King, Claire.
Can you please remind the Council courtroom who Joey King
is the ex girlfriend of JACOBALORDI, Oh, yes, you're gonna
(29:41):
say Gypsy Ros, Gypsy rows. Yeah, but from the kissing
booth la la lah, they have history. We need to
do a big mind map of all the connections in
between them. And of course I watched five minutes and
Luca made us turn it off. But I have saved
my place and shall be returning in Brad. Okay. That
often happens with your partner, doesn't it. You go, yeah, yeah,
(30:03):
it's terrible. Yeah, we won't and then I'm like you
go on out. This week, I've got a movie to watch.
The headline about this film which which has a thirty
nine percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want
to say more. Is zach Evron's face right, folks. Zach
Efron's jaw is making headlines again. It's different. People on
the internet say his face shape has changed considerably. You
can see in The Iron Claw as well, his jaw
(30:24):
is more square and his lips appear fuller, and everyone's
yelling you messed up your face and sharing mean comparisons
and saying that they feel personally victimized. And it's like,
I don't know, maybe you need to go for a walk, okay,
Dutch some grass touch some is still hot though it's
still hot in iron Claw. I just think he's okay, yeah, yeah.
Efron has actually addressed his changing face. He says that
(30:49):
back in twenty thirteen, he was running through his house
in socks and he tripped and fell on his fountain
because there was a puddle of water. This is a
court room, so we need to properly prosecute this story.
I started by googling granite fountain, okay, because I needed
a visual. This is what came up on Google watches.
I mean, this is an outdoor fountain, but that's what
(31:10):
I was gonna ask. Was was talking about an indoors
It's an indoor fountain, and it's indoors at his home. Yes,
why does he have an indoor found? He has addressed
that and he said it's pretty cool I have an
indoor found. So he knows that's not the knot, but
he does have an indoor fountain. But then what I
did is I tried to find an image of the
granite fountain inside his house, and I could find his
house like as in the one that he'd bought or whatever.
(31:31):
But I think he might have installed the granite fountain
after he purchased it because I couldn't see an image. Okay,
Now I've got some comments about the fall, specifically the
socks and the water. I have slipt in my house
wearing socks on floorboards, on tiles, lots of situations. You know,
(31:51):
a bit of water when you get out of the shower, slip, slip,
But when you're wearing socks when you step in wet Okay, yes, yes, okay.
There are two different ways to slip. Yes, one is socks,
dry floor. The other is no socks, wet floor. That
(32:16):
they are the two ways if it slip on a
granite fountain. Yeah. And what I'm confused about is if
you personally have ever slipped on water and socks. Okay,
what I will say, No, I haven't, but this is
what I will say. And we've talked about this before.
When you get an injury, you somehow I hit my
(32:37):
head the other day like a little while ago, full
banged my head, huge egg on my head, full bruise.
I had to call the paramedics whenever you have an
injury as an adult, and I have to explain how
it happened. It sounds weird, sounds like a lie. There's
never a time when what you were doing leading up
to that to make that makes sense. So me and
(32:59):
my partner were walking home from dinner. It was five pm. Yeah,
So the paramedics are like, sorry, you're walking at dinner
at five pm. Sounds like a lie. We have a baby, right,
so things are weird. So you had dinner a four yeah, yep.
And it's like, why were you walking down this street?
It's not a logical way to walk to our house.
And then I think I had maybe liberty concussion. I
(33:21):
was like, oh, we were going to Messina all right
after our four thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just
a lot of moving parts like, yeah, why were you
It sounds like you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it
sounds like you've fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes,
And it's like were you drinking? And it's like it
does say I should have been drinking. Fair, fair, fair question,
(33:45):
and no, No, I am just very odd and every
time I've injured myself I've thought that. So in zac
Efron's defense, the weirder the story, the more I actually
believe it. Yeah, but I feel like I'm with him
on falling on the granite fountain. Yeah, I just wonder if,
in order to make it believable, he's gone slippery and
then he's gone. I'm gonna add some slippery details. But
(34:05):
the two slippery details, it's like two positives equal and negative.
I think maybe they're was water. Yeah, he doesn't realize
that's not what he slipped on. What did he slip on?
Just the normal floor? Okay? Or he actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah,
he's just got confused. Yeah. Well, he was struck unconscious
and when he woke up, his chin was hanging from
his face, and I googled whether they hitting your chin
(34:28):
can make you unconscious because I also want more. Does
that check out? No, definitely it does. Skull bones going up. Yeah,
he had to have his mouth wide shut and he
needed lots of stitches as a result of breaking his jaw.
Zach said that his other facial muscles, namely the master tears,
which are used for chewing massad mass I'm sorry, what
(34:51):
was You know? Why? I know it because people talk
about getting massive botox. Ah, that's the only context is
that I've seen TikTok videos of people talking about massa grinding.
It's the muscles that are used for chewing. And the
reason that people want botox for their grinding is because
it will make your jaw look bigger. So if you
(35:11):
grind or if you like overuse those muscles, it can
change the shape of your jaw. And basically what happened
was because it was wired shut and he was like
grinding like he had his teeth shut. The idea is
that it had kind of overcompensated and his massaters grew
to be really really big, and he was meant to
be doing physio, but then he had another project he
(35:31):
had to go and work on, and he didn't do
the physioproperly, and apparently it grew and grew. I googled
it because I was like, well, can that happen? And yeah,
it can. So if this is a lie, like a
PR team has got a doctor involved and asked a
lot of questions, seems a bit funny to be defending him,
because women's appearance is always torn apart, and how often
(35:53):
do we talk about women ruining their faces with plastic
surgery or whatever. But I do think it is never
appropriate to say that, and it is sad because it
was an injury in a family affair. Zac Efron. Actually
he references his jaw, but I'll tell you there's another story.
He's saying he fell over on set. No mention of
a granite film. I did, though, really, where that's right here?
(36:20):
I fell on set? Oh yeah, I see it. It's
a Brookings. Okay, that's because it's in the script. I
just think that if we're gonna go with our sockshoe
wet story, provide more details through feeling exactly exactly if
we're going to provide a detail through film. It felt
like he had to acknowledge it because people are going
(36:41):
to talk about the face. And he was like, no,
I've had an accident. I lost my chin on No. No,
but he talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he
nearly died. It was very very serious. It's very traumatic
for him. We shouldn't be laughing. Stop, Claire. It is
time for charges and sentences on the socks. We need
(37:04):
to know how wet, because there's a point at which
obviously socks are made of fabric, and we know that
the fabric can cause resistance, which helps us to not
fall in wet. But were they so wet? Just become foot?
You've taken a few steps and your sock has soaked through,
so that your sock is no longer sock in terms
(37:24):
of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're just slipping around. Yeah,
which I can see how you would slip. I have
another question in regards to this, like we're in a
court room, you're zac Efron, and I'm just frusting questions.
It's just my job. Why the wet? Why the wet? Yes,
so you have a granite fountain. Love that fear it
was from the fountain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's her fountain leaking.
(37:46):
Yeah it's leaking. No, it wasn't leaking. The problem with
having a fountain inside is that often water does splash
from the fountain into the outside. Zach Efron, do you
have a help? Yeah? They were sick that day. I
just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, I'm not
mupping up my own floor. I feel as though there's
(38:07):
a guy. Well, I think the surprise you pay for
having a fountain in doors, it's why I've not done it,
because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is another feature
of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions where we
give a few too many details. Right, he didn't trip
over a fountain. He tripped over granite fountain. It wasn't
(38:28):
just any socks. It was wet. That's also those details,
the details that you think is that relevant, also a
feature of the truth. That's interesting, interesting, but a strange.
It's like when I'm lying about why I'm sick from whack,
I'm taking a photo of my vomit, right, Like, I'm
(38:48):
really over providing on evidence. And I just wonder if
he had truly fallen, would he say I sipped at
home it was an injury. I'd like a picture of
the granite fountain, okay, and I'd like to know where
it happened. I don't know. I feel like if you
were chatting to a friend about how you injured yourself,
sometimes you do provide just a few details. Yeah, okay,
so you believe me? Yeah, I think I believe him to.
(39:10):
And what's that saying truth is stranger than fiction. Oh
wow that in the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, weird of
the story, the more true. I'm going to go first
in the charge. I need to talk about New Year's Eve.
I saw that because he was in it, and that
was one hour and fifty three minutes of my life
I'm not getting back. And storylines that don't involve him
(39:32):
so many Yes, it's like I'm just over here. What
was his watching Bloody Robert de Niro? If ione to
watching Robert de Niro film, I'd watch literally any other one. Yeah,
I need to watch him in New Year's Eve? What
is zac Efron's storyline in that? I think he's pursuing
Michelle Pfeiffer older woman, and she's like, I'm older than you.
That's kind of hot. It took too long to get
(39:56):
to the dancing scene as established, And there's actually another
crime which breaks the rules of court because you shouldn't
bring up new evidence in the ruling. Or maybe that's debating,
can't be clear. Yeah, remember a few years ago he
came to Australia and he started dating a girl in
Byron Bay. Yeah, I could draw a photo of her
from memory. That pissed me off, okay, because it was like, well,
(40:22):
now maybe you are within reach, Like you're literally just
over the plane trip, cheeky ten hour drive from where
I'm sitting right now to zac Efron, and like I
know the cafe where she was working that she met him,
and it was like I could have been at that cafe.
I could have worked there. Yeah, so we're dating Australians now, Yeah,
could have let me know and then within ten years
(40:43):
of my age. And then I thought, so, if we
were open to dating everyday goals, yeah, how about when
I met you? Yeah? And why didn't we flag that
m so that a few of us could get a shot? Good?
Because it nearly ruined my relationship with my husband, the
father of my child. It did, Yeah, because I went,
(41:04):
all right, there's a chance that the man from high school,
musical man in bad neighbors, who I think is a
real laugh and does a sexy dance in Newar's Eve,
he's just over there. It's just picking up girls, just
looking for love. He could dance just for me, and
he likes the Australian accent. Apparently that relationship did end.
It didn't end because she wasn't right, because you're right. Okay, yes,
(41:29):
but he was getting warmer. My sentence is I'll forgive
any film if he dances at the end. And that's
what I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me
to Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little there was
a film missing a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate,
the film's not for you, Zach said, Well said, so
(41:51):
maybe that's a good test, litmus test. Ted Bundy isn't
playing to your strengths. Look, I don't condone anything Ted
Bundy did bad guy. I'm on the record of saying that.
But Zac Efron dancing, even as Ted Bundy ould have
watched it, Okay, and I wouldn't mind. Just as the
credits roll. It made sense in the wrestling movie for
him to do a dance. It could make sense for
Ted Bundy to do a little hip hop. Okay, do
(42:13):
a breakdance. That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's your charge?
My charge is doing things that aren't playing to his
strengths slash talents. Okay, so when we take on a roll,
yeah that isn't you're a triple threat mate, singing, dancing, acting, yeah, yeah,
an your faith and your face for your quadruple threat. Yeah,
(42:34):
and so I want things that really play to that. So,
for example, wrestling movie, I exclusively refer to it as
wrestling movie. Yeah. I don't know the name. It's called
the Iron Claw. It was so good. Same of the
Greatest Showman. I think that that was some of zach
Efronidy's best because he could triple threat Yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zendaat,
et cetera. There wasn't enough singing dancing in ted Bundy.
(42:57):
And another way that he's not playing to his strengths.
It's when all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man
encounter boys stop that. No, that's not playing to your strengths. Well,
he had a moment he said, I've learnt from it.
Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's
off the drugs now so we can focus more on
his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs a
(43:18):
TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his people
haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate
and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a
jojo si wakama? No, because I get the ick. That
would be ikey Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But just
I want more dance, access to more dancing. I think
(43:42):
he's trying to move away from that is a sense
I get from the Iron Clare. Oh yeah, it'd be
taken seriously. Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and
I could do a dance together. Oh anyway, So I
need more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way
for me to get it. I love that. Thank you
so much for joining us on this episode of Canceled.
The executive producer of Canceled is Telisibezazz, with audio editing
(44:05):
by Tom Lyon. We are gonna post on the pictures
Ted Bundy. He looks like a picture of a granite
fountain that now exists in my phone and that video
of him duncing at the end of m Onto. The
Twins underscore thoughts on Instagram and if you have a
lazy girl story then please send it through to podcasts
at mommeya dot com dot au. We will be back
(44:26):
next week. Bye bye before we go. If you are
looking for something else to listen to, then I have
fantastic news because someone I know, Claire Spoiler it's you
just did a whole season of a chart topping podcast
called but are You Happy? All the episodes are now
(44:49):
available and you can go and listen to them. Claire,
what are some of the highlights from the season you've
just done. It's weird that you're not taking the piss
out of me, So it's just an awkward dynamic right now.
But some of the people I've interviewed for this season
are media personality Laura Burt, musical theater star Rob Mills,
Olympic gold medalist around Tipness, comedian Josh Thomas. We've got
(45:13):
Brooke Blurton. We've got actress and Gowerie Rice, who was
in Mean Girls. And there are just so many fascinating
conversations on this season about what happens when you get
everything that you want and how it doesn't feel how
you would think it feels. We talk about people who
(45:34):
would trade what they have in terms of success for
something else that they feel is missing in their lives.
We talk about jealousy, regret, me mental health, mental health,
and it's a season that I think everyone will find
something that resonates with them. You haven't referenced the biggest
endorsement of this season, I said, chart topping. I think
(45:54):
Apple chose it as one of their best podcasts last year.
But that means nothing in comparison to the endorsement You've Got,
which was from one Ann Stevens, who did share the
Rob Mills episode, just with the two words he's gorgeous. Okay, okay,
she's got the huts for Rob Mills. Yeah she does,
which is like, I mean, I ambushed him and he
(46:15):
came in, and I think there was an ambush. Yes,
not appropriate. I yelled, you're my husband, yeah, which isn't
he's engaged, you shouldn't. Yeah. The last season, your Bloody
interviewed his fiance. So it's just all getting very awkward.
If you want to hear that awkwardness Claire blowing up
a future marriage, then listen to the later season of
But Are You Happy. There is a link in the show.
(46:35):
Note
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
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podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to Cancel, the
podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and as science,
(00:34):
charges and sentences so we can all get on with
our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm joined by Claire Stephens.
And Claire, do you have a lazy girl story for
us today? I do it as a bit of a
personal one. All right, Okay, it's not what happens when
you haven't been through the well exactly. So we were
on holidays recently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and we were traveling
(00:54):
with an icon mom. Yeah. And Mom just had a
line which I thought would resonate a lot with lazy
girls everywhere. She was sitting on a couch when we
were in the south of France and she had a
book in front of her. Yeah, she said, I could read.
I want to read, Yeah, but I prefer to be
on TikTok. And I just thought, wow, that's it, isn't it.
(01:19):
That's it. It's it, and it's not just about reading,
it's about work. I think that a lot I got
I could be working, but I'd rather be on, But
I'd rather be on TikTok. And I thought, it's just
one of those moments where somebody says the unsaid lazy.
She's a lazy girl. There is something really liberating about
the other day. You know. I found myself with an
(01:40):
hour and I thought, you could exercise, could do laundry,
house has messy, got work to do. And I found
myself intentionally walking towards my bedroom, getting into my bed
and going, we're gonna have some TikTok uninterrupted TikTok time.
There was a meme going around that was like, oh,
what's your bedtime routine? These are the nine evidence based
(02:02):
things that I've built into my routine. I followed the
perfect nighttime routine. Welcome to my night routine. Well, it's
ninety minutes of TikTok, That's what it is. Nineteen minutes
before I'm going to go to sleep. I get up
my phone and I start to scroll, and I lose
myself and any sense of time. It's funny because I
always say I'm not a routine person. I can't do routine. Well,
(02:24):
the one part of my routine that doesn't labor. It's
hours and I'm talking our hours. Yeah. Everyone says, oh,
you've got time to excite. No, I don'ry. I'm busy.
I don't have time. Well, because I got TikTok. Time
very important, always and sacred. You are about to enter
(02:45):
the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty,
the rulings are final. Today we're talking about zach Efron.
This could be the start with something news. What a
(03:06):
weird right, Maybe the world could be so I just
woke up and fucking jailed. What a budget penises on
my forehead. Frost before hose right, yeah, man, junk before truck.
Zachary David Alexander E. Fro Such a hot night, sir,
(03:27):
I challenge you to have another. First name was born
in nineteen eighty seven in California. In high school, Efron
described himself as having been the class clown, I believe it,
and there he started singing lessons. He started acting in
the early two thousands, and one of his first roles
was in one of the greatest medical dramas of all time.
(03:48):
Er here are some irrelevant and blurry images. Oh my god.
You know he's on the table, and then the second
image is him with the doctor from me are Yeah,
they have recently reunited in the Iron Clare because she
was the mother in the Iron Clare. I know it's
Oh my god, because in Iron Claw I was like,
(04:09):
where do I know that woman? The turning point for
zac Efron came in two thousand and six with a
teen musical television film called High School Musical. This Something
It feels. So there's a controversy there, which we will
(04:30):
get to. He then start in Hairspray before doing High
School Musical two, followed seen every Zach from movie No
You Have, followed by a High School Musical three. My
prom is wherever you are. Some of his other movies
include Bad Neighbors. You've seen that, Bad Babies too. You've
seen that. We are gonna end the year with the
most legendary rager of all time. I'm talking even bigger
(04:52):
than last year's White Trash Bash. Have you seen Baywatch? Yeah?
Oh yes, I actually think they Watch is an excellent film. Really,
I never watched it. Okay, The Greatest Showman. You've watched that?
Most recently The Iron Claw. You've watched that ever since
I was a child. People said my family was cursed. Well,
I'm trying to protect with God. Oh, try to protect
(05:13):
us with wrestling. And have you seen a family affair?
Is that brand new? Yeah, you haven't seen on my Netflix.
Haven't say it yet? Okay, no, have not seen it.
You can't animated films because we talk about animated film
with zac Efron, but like you definitely haven't seen that
something you failed to mention. Sorry, are you getting to it? What? Yes? Okay,
shut up? Wait me meeting him this is the next Sorry.
(05:38):
I couldn't give it in anymore. But before we get
into it, Claire, I just wanted to make sure that
you haven't had any experiences that may prejudice the jury,
like say, having met zach Efron or anything of that.
I reckon. I've mentioned it on this podcast close through
one hundred times. I did interview zach Efron, dis guy.
(05:58):
He was doing greatest showman. I interviewed zach Efron and Zendia.
Zach Efron is one of the most beautiful people I've
ever sat opposite. Elaborate it's his eyes for me and
I went in and the eye contact. You know those
people who they say like they have like a real
presence and eye contact, did not take his eyes off
me to the point what I walked out thinking, there's
(06:20):
a love story that just blossomed between us. I didn't
hear from him in the aftermath, so you thought he
was very charismatic, very charismatic, funny. I'm trying to find
the video on YouTube. Do you know, Oh, we should
reachhare the video because speaking of lazy girl, one thing
that I never got my head around. I still don't
(06:41):
get my head around. I'm quite oily in the face. Yeah,
and it was a hot summer's day and I was nervous,
and I went in and I did this interview and
it looks like my face is dripping. It's the word.
It sucks because he would with and front And it's
the worst because that clip went viral because some fan
clipped it to say there was a moment of chemistry
(07:02):
between Sendaia and clearly the chemistry between me and him.
I've seen the video of the body slam, did you
guys any just really cringe worthy, embarrassing moment. That's one
of the things about being a part of the musical
is that's you're ashamed of it. Yeah, something goes wrong.
You have to get rid of the fear of looking stupid. Yeah, exactly,
because if you've lived that way, you seriously will never
(07:24):
get anything accomplished. But it's literally got millions of views,
and there I am with the wettest face you do
you've ever seen. Even my friends messaged me being like,
why don't you put some powder on? And I was like, well,
I didn't know. I was in a rush. I was
in a rush, I was dressed. I was concentrating on
my questions. But I think I've said on this podcast before, Yeah,
zac Efron, all the vibes then day are not as much,
(07:49):
only because she was very young and she was on
her phone. She's on her phone. You didn't lie that?
Where Zach? And you were like it even is? And
next minute, next minute, how embarrassing. I like zac Efron
because I think it's sexy when he dances, and I
thoroughly enjoyed the greatest showman. I also think he's funny.
He was a real laugh and bad neighbors. Did you
know that it's actually just neighbors? Yes, in America. Yeah,
(08:12):
he's a fun guy, and I get that sense that
he'd be a real fun person to her sense of
human My structure for today is as follows, High School
Musical and an Awkward Truth, A condom and a red carpet,
an altercation with a homeless man, the film New Year's Eve,
making the worst serial killer of all time, sexually arousing,
and finally face high School Musical and an Awkward Truth.
(08:38):
In January two thousand and six, High School Musical debuts
on the Disney Channel, and many say it's a modern
adaptation of Romeo and juliet Ah. The film became an
enormous success with these young people with their singing and
they're dancing. I remember I was sick one time and
(09:01):
I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. Watch
a high school musical and it's great. It was really great.
I've never watched it. It's the music for me. Well,
it's not zac Efron's voy what that's Drew's voice, which
begs the question, who the fuck is Drew? Drew, Yes,
not Zach's voice. Drew Seeley is a lovely young man
(09:25):
who loves to sing. He has been in some musicals
and some television and movies. But Zach. Everyone can sing.
Zac Efron can sing, so why didn't they use his voice. Well,
I'm getting okay. Sorry, I'm just okay, Efron said later
in an interview. In the first movie, after everything was recorded,
my voice was not on them. I was not really
given an explanation. It just kind of happened that way. Unfortunately,
(09:48):
it put me in an awkward position. It's not something
I expected to be addressed then high school musical blew up.
I'm very fortunate that Drew has gotten proper credit, and
also that I've gotten the opportunity to come back and
try it again with my own voice. He's very talented.
I consider myself a regular kid that can carry a tune.
The party line is that Efron is a baritone. Baritone
(10:08):
is quite low. Yeah, R and all of Troy Bolton's
songs I've written for TENA, which is high. Yeah. Of course,
so Efron couldn't hit those notes. What's cruel is it
Drew tried out and he missed it. Yeah, Drew's pretty proud.
I read some interviews with Drew and I'm gonna say
(10:28):
that when I went to Drew's Wikipedia, I'm not being mean,
but his most recent achievements are like web series. So
I just don't feel like he's Dak Cavron. He did though,
and he'll have, you know, help with the lyrics for
get your head in the game outside keep you in
the game. But then I went and looked up lyrics
(10:50):
get you. It's very get to hnd the game. It's
very gets your head. It's get your head in the game.
I gotta, I gotta get my head in the game.
Do you think he helped with the lyrics get your
head in the game. Maybe he changed it from get
your head in the game to get you because that
is it's officially gets your head in the game. And
it was I think it was nominated for an Emmy
or something. Oh wow, yeah, ye yeah, and Drew saying it.
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Efron did sing in the next two movies. There's ship
between Fron and Drew. I'll say that there's tension because
Drew's like, well, I didn't see Efron a lot because
I was there when he wasn't there. Make that lip
sincing so good? It's not not a thing. So it
happened during the Olympics, and there was like this person
who was like the voice of the Olympics when it
(11:33):
was in China, and she was remarkable. But it wasn't
her voice. She had like star power, but she didn't
have the chops to pull it off. That's what's so
remarkable about saying Nicki Webster is that you know she
was Nicky Webster plus vocals. And with Zach, I think
(11:54):
Drew was a few years older as well, and so
he was like, I would have looked weird next to
Vanessa Hudgens, and I'm like, yeah, that's maybe what all.
Maybe not Zach Efron Drew. We do have some very
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condom and a red carpet. It's twenty twelve and twenty
four year old Zac Efron is on the red carpet
for the premiere of his film Claire. Have you seen
(13:20):
this the Lorax? No? Is that animated? Yeah? Okay, yeah,
that's why, because I sorry, I'm gonna need to see Yeah.
If I'm going to the movie, it's to see him.
I'm gonna need to see you. Yeah. And as an aside,
in that movie, he lends his voice to a twelve
year old, so he's kind of playing a twelve year old,
but he's twenty four. So, mom, do you happen to
know if there's like any place where I could get
(13:43):
a real tree? Anyway, he's trying to pose with his
hands in his pockets. He's got like a cool pose
and like sunglasses on and stuff. He's looking good, skinny,
Jean's absolutely height of the skinny jeans moment, and he
can't quite fitty his hands him. I was gonna say
out loud, probably because he has a big dick, but
I decided against it. So do you think he'd have
(14:04):
a big dick. I think he'd have a lovely love
would be lovely. But Pat's time, Yeah, just a lot
going on, you know what. Rather than that, I think
it's actually quite beautiful bottom. He's got a booty, Yeah,
he's got a booty. So he can't get his hands in,
so he empties his pockets and he kind of goes
and gives it to the usher, like, oh, I should
just take outlets in my pockets. And as he does that,
something falls out onto the orange carpet and it is
(14:24):
a silver like an aluminium square, and it is a
condom or as Americans say, condom, a condom, a condom.
The condom drop happened with this movie poster in the background.
Please describe the movie poster. Doctor zeuses the law axe
and it's like it's it's from the creators of Despicable Media,
(14:47):
and it's clearly for children. Is for children, you see,
it was a children's movie and their twelve year old
had just dropped a condom mmmm on the orange so
that he didn't catch chlamydia. I would assume this is irrelevant,
that is it. There was someone else who voiced in
that film, and it was Taylor Swift, And all I'm
(15:09):
saying is that when he had a condom in his pocket,
m who was he going to use it on? Okay, well,
so my theory here that was one hundred percent a
pr stunt. Claire actually brought the video to show you
because I want you to tell me whether you think
this is on purpose or not, because the more I
(15:30):
watch it, the more I think it is genuinely an accident. Okay,
all right, because it's very hard to act taking things
out of your pocket and just dropping one of the things.
Here we go so we can see him. He's just
on the red carpet. He's then like, all right, I'm
going to get these things. And I got some receipts,
maybe some lip bum, maybe a coin or two. And
he's handing it to the usher and something's just dropped
(15:52):
on the floor. He's very quickly picked it up, put
it back in his pocket and needs that and now
he is mortified. He's putting sunglasses on, he's breathing deeply,
he's covering his mouth, he's looking the other way and laughing.
He is and I do think he's a brilliant actor.
But that is an A grade. Can I guess you
could interpret it either way. I mean, I think it
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didn't hurt his career. Let's just say that because he's like,
I you know, it's very I have sex. Okay, That's
what I was gonna say. Is you know when you're young,
like in high school, and everyone's like, oh no, my
my condoms are falling out of my wallet. Yeah, and
it's like, okay, no answer, and you're obsessed with your
(16:35):
own erect painters. It's very that, which is weird because
he's twenty four, Like that's a little bit old. Yeah,
but it's very when you're sing around with your friends
and everyone's like, let's plea, Like, never have I ever
that it's threesome? I have, Like it's that. It's very that.
So after The law Axe, he went on to play
roles where he was actually an adult, like The Lucky
(16:57):
One and Bad Neighbors. I've seen the Lucky One is excellent.
He returns from war I believe that's a And Okay,
you know who's in the lucky one is the woman
who ended up being the main woman. You know well
said so the question is in this was he saying
I need condoms because I use my penis sexually. I'm
(17:18):
an adult man with an erection. Yeah, is that what
I represent? And I reckon it was very like, I'm
not a Disney star anymore. Yeah, see, I need a condom.
What do you use condoms for? My dig nice an
altercation with a homeless man. There comes a point in
every Disney star's career where they have an altercation with
a home. In twenty fourteen, Efron reached that moment. So
(17:44):
he's in the skid Row area of Los Angeles. Yep,
I've seen that on Keeping Up with It has one
of the largest stable populations of homeless people in the US,
and the police are called. They have one story. Efron
has a slightly different one. I'll start with the police.
The police reported that the fight started after midnight when
Efron threw a bottle out of the window of his car,
which shattered right near a group of homeless people. Efron
(18:07):
was ultimately punched in the face and police found him
and his bodyguard fighting with several homeless men under an overpass.
No one was arrested because it was considered mutual combat,
and one source described Efron as heavily intoxicated. Efron says
him and a friend were searching for something to eat
downtown and they ran out of petrol, so he had
to pull over. He said, a homeless guy or vagrant
(18:30):
tapped on the driver's side window. Before I knew it,
my friend was out of the car. They started fighting.
I saw the homeless man was carrying some sort of
knife or shank, and I got out of the car
to disarm him. He said that being punched in the
face was the most terrifying moment in his life. Interestingly,
it was around this time that Efron decided to get sober,
and he completed a stint in rehabs the drug and
(18:52):
alcohol abuse interested. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah,
he kind of disappeared for a little while, and he's
spoken a fair bit about it, like how all the
things that you get offered and struggling with addiction and
going to AA and that sort of thing. I'm not
happy with that story. I don't believe that you just
happened to run out of petrol in front of a
homeless person. I think he went to start a fight
(19:15):
or somebody he was with. My thing is always, oh, okay,
we pulled over to get something to eat. What was
after midnight? Had you don Yeah? You go through drive
through macas after midnight? Everyone knows that. Yeah, like what
we're looking for. And he's like, oh, we couldn't find
somewhere to eat the mate, it's twelve thirty. Yeah, everyone's closed.
Letter you watch go home and have some toast, Yeah,
like everyone else. The film New Year's Eve. We've spoken
(19:38):
at length on this podcast about the twenty ten film
Valentine's Day. It famously starred every Jennifer in Hollywood. Two
Jessica's a Julia, two tailors. I could go on, but
so did New Year's Eve. What we haven't spoken about
enough is the poor cousin of Valentine's Day, New Year's
Bradley Cooper Bradley Cooper twenty eleventh film, utilizing the exact
(20:02):
same formula by this point, the extent to which everyone
just wanted to make love actually, but no one could.
No Americans couldn't. No. Can you just throw another name
that was in nears e Ah, who just can you remember?
It's a real strange mish match. I'll tell you that.
(20:22):
That's what I mean. That's why it's kind of hard,
because by this point I think the actors in Valentine's
Day had realized Jennifer Garner, No, I think the actors
in Valentine's Day had realized that something terrible had happened,
and they refused to ever work on a project again
that claimed to be like love actually but actually the
(20:44):
makers of Valentine's dates at around a table and said,
through gritted teeth, there are some actors left, There are
some did any crossover? Yeah? Okay, And so came New
Years Eve. Two actors crossed over. I'll show you this image.
Just start yelling out. Can I guess who crossed over?
And then you have to tell me who crossed over? Okay?
So news Eve has Jessica Biel. Did she do that? Yeah? Yep, Okay,
(21:08):
We've got Sarah just car Parker, yeah, uh, Catherine Heigel interesting,
she was picking up scraps Hashton cicture. Some of them
I can't name, I just know their faces. You got
a Hilary Swang, Robert de Niro, Josh dem he was
with the chick from the Black Eyed Peas for a moment.
(21:28):
Who else, Liam Michelle, Hilary Swank, perhaps who else crossed
over Ashton? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and right in
the middle that zacky boy. Yeah. The plot is that
it follows several couples and singles in New York City
over the course of New Year's Age. I was on
(21:48):
the IMDb page and it said award nominations, so I
clicked read the awards of nominations. H Worst Actress, Sarah
Tska Parker, Worst Director Gary Marshall, Worst ensemble the entire cast,
Worst picture, and worst screenplay. What how it an achievement? Claire?
(22:12):
The film is terrible and I loved every minute. I
actually think and I will die on this hill. That
front was a standout. Yeah. Can you remember the best
scene in the movie. You can, you can, It's just
below the surface. Sorry, I was just thinking about the
other dating, which is excellent. I'm sorry, but he picks
(22:34):
excellent films, excellent film, great mixture. I remember watching that
movie and being like you really captured like a relation,
Like there's a little bit funny. After the movie ends
and the credits roll. We just get to watch Zach dancing.
Do you remember this? He kisses Michelle Faiffer. How are
you doing twice your age? Find a resolution? Didn't I
(22:59):
kiss who? You see? Check it off? Yeah? Oh I
forgot to mention is in it, which just says everything
about the cast, share the poster. You know it's a
big movie when oh, yeah it is, doesn't look okay? Yeah, yeah,
And there's a lot of people that are vaguely famous
and I don't know the name. Yeah, yep, I'm gonna
saw this same Okay, yeah, I forgot yes, okay, yes, yes, yes, okay,
(23:21):
right right off the lights. We're gonna lose our night.
What dearly to me? To me a feeling? Okay. The
thing about zac Efron dancing is he commits, ah, he
commits a hundred and a million percent, and he goes
such a good dance. This is a routine and you
(23:42):
can actually imagine him in the club. You can imagine
him in the club. He dances like Travis Kelcey be
the hottest person. Yes, in fact, in Iron Clare, did
you notice that there's a scene where he dances at
his wedding and it's just fifteen seconds. I reckon in
his contract. Yeah, every he's on I'm a great dancer,
(24:05):
So in every contract for every movie, there has to
be a dance break. It stole the film for him,
so everyone leaves going terrible film. Great Dan, I really
liked that. Raise a glass. Yeah, that was fun. That
was fun at the end, and it goes through the
whole cast and it's like, and Michelle Phiffer is like,
you know, over the age of forty, so she's basically
(24:26):
got a walking stick. Then it's like, how lucky is
she that zac Efron is doing a jig in front
of her and so sexy. It was just a high
for him because he wasn't playing a four year old.
His voice isn't dubbed, he wasn't dropping a condoc making
the worst serial killer of all time arousing zac Efron
is hot, beautiful, sexy and as aforementioned arousing. Ted Bundy
(24:49):
was an American serial killer who kidnapped, raped, and murdered
dozens of young women and girls in the nineteen seventies.
He confessed to thirty murders, but the true number is
not known, and in twenty nineteen, director Joe Berlinger, who
is fascinated by Bundy, released a film called Extremely Wicked,
Shockingly Evil and Vile, starring Zac Efron as a sea killer.
(25:10):
It took me over a decade to look at this
phoow what happened to her head? She was still positive,
in the words to animals, could have conceivably done something
like animals, don't do that. I'm not a bad guy.
Seen it, seen it. Efron was also a producer. Talk
(25:33):
to me about it because I haven't seen it. Actually,
you haven't seen it. No, you've actually seen it every
every day. No, it's good. Well, there was a lot
of criticism. Do you recall the criticism at the time. No,
that was everywhere. I remember everywhere. Wrote an opinion piece
and it was summed up by the Washington Post, who
said the film failed to distance itself from the glorification
(25:55):
of Bundy. The point was, according to critics, that Bundy
was hot, so no one could believe he would be
capable of such a barrn crime. But like, yes, and
that was the vibe of the film, But that was
also the vibe of Ted Bundy in real life. Yes,
But their point was that the film was therefore unable
to do justice to the sheer volume of horror, and
(26:16):
that the fact he was hot in ordinary and blah
blah blah. It was like the dominant narrative at the time.
It was like it was broadcast and all these women
were looking at it, going, look, he's gorgeous, blah blah blah.
It's like you're telling the same story we've already heard.
Rather than doing any justice to any of his victims,
I know what they mean, we moved past him. Yeah.
Efron's performance was criticized because he didn't possess the malice
(26:38):
required and it sort of just perpetuated the stereotypes that
the press did during Yeah, like he got the hot
part right. Yeah. But actually, even when I think about it,
I don't even know if they showed the violence and
the horror. No, I don't think they did. No, it
was more like he's a normal guy who lives with
his wife. I think part Yeah, if you had a
(26:59):
relative that was killed by Ted Bundy, you'd be furious.
You'd be like, Yeah, it was very like he's a
new heart throat film. By the way, beat dubs it's
Ted Bundy. Yeah, read this tweet. It's a picture of
Zac Efron. Look I actually didn't think he was at
his hottest in this he was playing Ted Bundy. No, no,
but it just wasn't really his style. Like his hair
(27:20):
was like curled and he had bow ties and stuff.
It's a tweet that says, Hi, I'm Ted Bundy and
you're watching disney Town. It's a confusing pivot. It's a
confusing pivot. This very much is what the vibe was.
Read that tweet, I feel so bad for the families
of the victims that have to sit there and see
their terrors revived as a witty, romantic thriller. Yeah, and
(27:41):
then read this tweet down the bottom Ted Bundy rapes
murders and estimated one hundred sex workers and child You're
but we need to see his charismatic side. Oh my god.
Plus he was so hot. Yeah, okay that And look
I looked at images of Zac Efron next to Ted Bundy,
and I know it isn't the point of the podcast.
It's just it's just Ted Bundy wasn't hot. Absolutely no resemblance.
(28:05):
I mean, but then again, that happens with like generations,
I know, But I just I think we've really over
egged how hot Ted Bundy was I've often thought that. Anyway,
I sort of agree with you that Twitter missed the
point a little bit. Like the film was obviously meant
to contrast the charisma and the ordinariness with what the
guy did. And zac Efron was a producer, so he
(28:25):
knew what he was trying to do. And obviously it
was a career pivot he was stepping out of like
you know, he'd done New Year's Eve, Yeah, and he
needed to go and he done Game. I'm going to
be a serious actor. Yeah, who should I play? Ted Bundy? Yeah,
I'm going to play ten and so but we've kind
of the problem is that he was too sexy. Yeah,
(28:47):
which is that his fault? Maybe? Sorry, speaking of him
being a serious actor, the wrestling movie Dhan Clare, He's
gonna win award. Oh, he's so brilliant. He's just so excellent,
a great actor. He'll be Eve and I go, you
were great then, Yeah, but mark my words, he'll be
winning an Academy Award in the next few years. Not
for A Family Affair. Finally, his face. There's a movie
(29:16):
out on Netflix called A Family Affair. Because I can't
play a blind alcoholic. It goes against my iconography. My
eyes are too pretty to not be on camera. I
told you we'd see your eyes starring Nicole Kidman, Joey King, Claire.
Can you please remind the Council courtroom who Joey King
is the ex girlfriend of JACOBALORDI, Oh, yes, you're gonna
(29:41):
say Gypsy Ros, Gypsy rows. Yeah, but from the kissing
booth la la lah, they have history. We need to
do a big mind map of all the connections in
between them. And of course I watched five minutes and
Luca made us turn it off. But I have saved
my place and shall be returning in Brad. Okay. That
often happens with your partner, doesn't it. You go, yeah, yeah,
(30:03):
it's terrible. Yeah, we won't and then I'm like you
go on out. This week, I've got a movie to watch.
The headline about this film which which has a thirty
nine percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which makes me want
to say more. Is zach Evron's face right, folks. Zach
Efron's jaw is making headlines again. It's different. People on
the internet say his face shape has changed considerably. You
can see in The Iron Claw as well, his jaw
(30:24):
is more square and his lips appear fuller, and everyone's
yelling you messed up your face and sharing mean comparisons
and saying that they feel personally victimized. And it's like,
I don't know, maybe you need to go for a walk, okay,
Dutch some grass touch some is still hot though it's
still hot in iron Claw. I just think he's okay, yeah, yeah.
Efron has actually addressed his changing face. He says that
(30:49):
back in twenty thirteen, he was running through his house
in socks and he tripped and fell on his fountain
because there was a puddle of water. This is a
court room, so we need to properly prosecute this story.
I started by googling granite fountain, okay, because I needed
a visual. This is what came up on Google watches.
I mean, this is an outdoor fountain, but that's what
(31:10):
I was gonna ask. Was was talking about an indoors
It's an indoor fountain, and it's indoors at his home. Yes,
why does he have an indoor found? He has addressed
that and he said it's pretty cool I have an
indoor found. So he knows that's not the knot, but
he does have an indoor fountain. But then what I
did is I tried to find an image of the
granite fountain inside his house, and I could find his
house like as in the one that he'd bought or whatever.
(31:31):
But I think he might have installed the granite fountain
after he purchased it because I couldn't see an image. Okay,
Now I've got some comments about the fall, specifically the
socks and the water. I have slipt in my house
wearing socks on floorboards, on tiles, lots of situations. You know,
(31:51):
a bit of water when you get out of the shower, slip, slip,
But when you're wearing socks when you step in wet Okay, yes, yes, okay.
There are two different ways to slip. Yes, one is socks,
dry floor. The other is no socks, wet floor. That
(32:16):
they are the two ways if it slip on a
granite fountain. Yeah. And what I'm confused about is if
you personally have ever slipped on water and socks. Okay,
what I will say, No, I haven't, but this is
what I will say. And we've talked about this before.
When you get an injury, you somehow I hit my
(32:37):
head the other day like a little while ago, full
banged my head, huge egg on my head, full bruise.
I had to call the paramedics whenever you have an
injury as an adult, and I have to explain how
it happened. It sounds weird, sounds like a lie. There's
never a time when what you were doing leading up
to that to make that makes sense. So me and
(32:59):
my partner were walking home from dinner. It was five pm. Yeah,
So the paramedics are like, sorry, you're walking at dinner
at five pm. Sounds like a lie. We have a baby, right,
so things are weird. So you had dinner a four yeah, yep.
And it's like, why were you walking down this street?
It's not a logical way to walk to our house.
And then I think I had maybe liberty concussion. I
(33:21):
was like, oh, we were going to Messina all right
after our four thirty pm dinner, okay, And there's just
a lot of moving parts like, yeah, why were you
It sounds like you're covering. Yeah, it sounds like it
sounds like you've fallen to distract from a drug bust. Yes,
And it's like were you drinking? And it's like it
does say I should have been drinking. Fair, fair, fair question,
(33:45):
and no, No, I am just very odd and every
time I've injured myself I've thought that. So in zac
Efron's defense, the weirder the story, the more I actually
believe it. Yeah, but I feel like I'm with him
on falling on the granite fountain. Yeah, I just wonder if,
in order to make it believable, he's gone slippery and
then he's gone. I'm gonna add some slippery details. But
(34:05):
the two slippery details, it's like two positives equal and negative.
I think maybe they're was water. Yeah, he doesn't realize
that's not what he slipped on. What did he slip on?
Just the normal floor? Okay? Or he actually wasn't wearing socks. Yeah,
he's just got confused. Yeah. Well, he was struck unconscious
and when he woke up, his chin was hanging from
his face, and I googled whether they hitting your chin
(34:28):
can make you unconscious because I also want more. Does
that check out? No, definitely it does. Skull bones going up. Yeah,
he had to have his mouth wide shut and he
needed lots of stitches as a result of breaking his jaw.
Zach said that his other facial muscles, namely the master tears,
which are used for chewing massad mass I'm sorry, what
(34:51):
was You know? Why? I know it because people talk
about getting massive botox. Ah, that's the only context is
that I've seen TikTok videos of people talking about massa grinding.
It's the muscles that are used for chewing. And the
reason that people want botox for their grinding is because
it will make your jaw look bigger. So if you
(35:11):
grind or if you like overuse those muscles, it can
change the shape of your jaw. And basically what happened
was because it was wired shut and he was like
grinding like he had his teeth shut. The idea is
that it had kind of overcompensated and his massaters grew
to be really really big, and he was meant to
be doing physio, but then he had another project he
(35:31):
had to go and work on, and he didn't do
the physioproperly, and apparently it grew and grew. I googled
it because I was like, well, can that happen? And yeah,
it can. So if this is a lie, like a
PR team has got a doctor involved and asked a
lot of questions, seems a bit funny to be defending him,
because women's appearance is always torn apart, and how often
(35:53):
do we talk about women ruining their faces with plastic
surgery or whatever. But I do think it is never
appropriate to say that, and it is sad because it
was an injury in a family affair. Zac Efron. Actually
he references his jaw, but I'll tell you there's another story.
He's saying he fell over on set. No mention of
a granite film. I did, though, really, where that's right here?
(36:20):
I fell on set? Oh yeah, I see it. It's
a Brookings. Okay, that's because it's in the script. I
just think that if we're gonna go with our sockshoe
wet story, provide more details through feeling exactly exactly if
we're going to provide a detail through film. It felt
like he had to acknowledge it because people are going
(36:41):
to talk about the face. And he was like, no,
I've had an accident. I lost my chin on No. No,
but he talks about a scar. Yeah, he says he
nearly died. It was very very serious. It's very traumatic
for him. We shouldn't be laughing. Stop, Claire. It is
time for charges and sentences on the socks. We need
(37:04):
to know how wet, because there's a point at which
obviously socks are made of fabric, and we know that
the fabric can cause resistance, which helps us to not
fall in wet. But were they so wet? Just become foot?
You've taken a few steps and your sock has soaked through,
so that your sock is no longer sock in terms
(37:24):
of purpose. Exactly, there's no friction left. We're just slipping around. Yeah,
which I can see how you would slip. I have
another question in regards to this, like we're in a
court room, you're zac Efron, and I'm just frusting questions.
It's just my job. Why the wet? Why the wet? Yes,
so you have a granite fountain. Love that fear it
was from the fountain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's her fountain leaking.
(37:46):
Yeah it's leaking. No, it wasn't leaking. The problem with
having a fountain inside is that often water does splash
from the fountain into the outside. Zach Efron, do you
have a help? Yeah? They were sick that day. I
just feel as though if I'm zac Efron, I'm not
mupping up my own floor. I feel as though there's
(38:07):
a guy. Well, I think the surprise you pay for
having a fountain in doors, it's why I've not done it,
because I don't want wet. Yeah, there is another feature
of a lie. Again, I'm just asking questions where we
give a few too many details. Right, he didn't trip
over a fountain. He tripped over granite fountain. It wasn't
(38:28):
just any socks. It was wet. That's also those details,
the details that you think is that relevant, also a
feature of the truth. That's interesting, interesting, but a strange.
It's like when I'm lying about why I'm sick from whack,
I'm taking a photo of my vomit, right, Like, I'm
(38:48):
really over providing on evidence. And I just wonder if
he had truly fallen, would he say I sipped at
home it was an injury. I'd like a picture of
the granite fountain, okay, and I'd like to know where
it happened. I don't know. I feel like if you
were chatting to a friend about how you injured yourself,
sometimes you do provide just a few details. Yeah, okay,
so you believe me? Yeah, I think I believe him to.
(39:10):
And what's that saying truth is stranger than fiction. Oh
wow that in the Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, weird of
the story, the more true. I'm going to go first
in the charge. I need to talk about New Year's Eve.
I saw that because he was in it, and that
was one hour and fifty three minutes of my life
I'm not getting back. And storylines that don't involve him
(39:32):
so many Yes, it's like I'm just over here. What
was his watching Bloody Robert de Niro? If ione to
watching Robert de Niro film, I'd watch literally any other one. Yeah,
I need to watch him in New Year's Eve? What
is zac Efron's storyline in that? I think he's pursuing
Michelle Pfeiffer older woman, and she's like, I'm older than you.
That's kind of hot. It took too long to get
(39:56):
to the dancing scene as established, And there's actually another
crime which breaks the rules of court because you shouldn't
bring up new evidence in the ruling. Or maybe that's debating,
can't be clear. Yeah, remember a few years ago he
came to Australia and he started dating a girl in
Byron Bay. Yeah, I could draw a photo of her
from memory. That pissed me off, okay, because it was like, well,
(40:22):
now maybe you are within reach, Like you're literally just
over the plane trip, cheeky ten hour drive from where
I'm sitting right now to zac Efron, and like I
know the cafe where she was working that she met him,
and it was like I could have been at that cafe.
I could have worked there. Yeah, so we're dating Australians now, Yeah,
could have let me know and then within ten years
(40:43):
of my age. And then I thought, so, if we
were open to dating everyday goals, yeah, how about when
I met you? Yeah? And why didn't we flag that
m so that a few of us could get a shot? Good?
Because it nearly ruined my relationship with my husband, the
father of my child. It did, Yeah, because I went,
(41:04):
all right, there's a chance that the man from high school,
musical man in bad neighbors, who I think is a
real laugh and does a sexy dance in Newar's Eve,
he's just over there. It's just picking up girls, just
looking for love. He could dance just for me, and
he likes the Australian accent. Apparently that relationship did end.
It didn't end because she wasn't right, because you're right. Okay, yes,
(41:29):
but he was getting warmer. My sentence is I'll forgive
any film if he dances at the end. And that's
what I learned from New Year's Eve, which brings me
to Ted Bundy. Oh he needed a little there was
a film missing a dance, or if a dance feels inappropriate,
the film's not for you, Zach said, Well said, so
(41:51):
maybe that's a good test, litmus test. Ted Bundy isn't
playing to your strengths. Look, I don't condone anything Ted
Bundy did bad guy. I'm on the record of saying that.
But Zac Efron dancing, even as Ted Bundy ould have
watched it, Okay, and I wouldn't mind. Just as the
credits roll. It made sense in the wrestling movie for
him to do a dance. It could make sense for
Ted Bundy to do a little hip hop. Okay, do
(42:13):
a breakdance. That's fine. Old Wait, Claire, what's your charge?
My charge is doing things that aren't playing to his
strengths slash talents. Okay, so when we take on a roll,
yeah that isn't you're a triple threat mate, singing, dancing, acting, yeah, yeah,
an your faith and your face for your quadruple threat. Yeah,
(42:34):
and so I want things that really play to that. So,
for example, wrestling movie, I exclusively refer to it as
wrestling movie. Yeah. I don't know the name. It's called
the Iron Claw. It was so good. Same of the
Greatest Showman. I think that that was some of zach
Efronidy's best because he could triple threat Yeah, singing, dancing, kissing, yeah, zendaat,
et cetera. There wasn't enough singing dancing in ted Bundy.
(42:57):
And another way that he's not playing to his strengths.
It's when all these drugs and alcohol and homeless man
encounter boys stop that. No, that's not playing to your strengths. Well,
he had a moment he said, I've learnt from it.
Yeah that was ten years ago. Well, I'm glad he's
off the drugs now so we can focus more on
his skills. Yes, well, no sentence. Zach Efron needs a
(43:18):
TikTok where he dances. I don't understand why his people
haven't set that up. Yeah, genuinely quit everything else, mate
and just dance on TikTok. Should he do like a
jojo si wakama? No, because I get the ick. That
would be ikey Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But just
I want more dance, access to more dancing. I think
(43:42):
he's trying to move away from that is a sense
I get from the Iron Clare. Oh yeah, it'd be
taken seriously. Yeah yeah yeah, him and Timothy Shall and
I could do a dance together. Oh anyway, So I
need more dancing, and TikTok is a lovely accessible way
for me to get it. I love that. Thank you
so much for joining us on this episode of Canceled.
The executive producer of Canceled is Telisibezazz, with audio editing
(44:05):
by Tom Lyon. We are gonna post on the pictures
Ted Bundy. He looks like a picture of a granite
fountain that now exists in my phone and that video
of him duncing at the end of m Onto. The
Twins underscore thoughts on Instagram and if you have a
lazy girl story then please send it through to podcasts
at mommeya dot com dot au. We will be back
(44:26):
next week. Bye bye before we go. If you are
looking for something else to listen to, then I have
fantastic news because someone I know, Claire Spoiler it's you
just did a whole season of a chart topping podcast
called but are You Happy? All the episodes are now
(44:49):
available and you can go and listen to them. Claire,
what are some of the highlights from the season you've
just done. It's weird that you're not taking the piss
out of me, So it's just an awkward dynamic right now.
But some of the people I've interviewed for this season
are media personality Laura Burt, musical theater star Rob Mills,
Olympic gold medalist around Tipness, comedian Josh Thomas. We've got
(45:13):
Brooke Blurton. We've got actress and Gowerie Rice, who was
in Mean Girls. And there are just so many fascinating
conversations on this season about what happens when you get
everything that you want and how it doesn't feel how
you would think it feels. We talk about people who
(45:34):
would trade what they have in terms of success for
something else that they feel is missing in their lives.
We talk about jealousy, regret, me mental health, mental health,
and it's a season that I think everyone will find
something that resonates with them. You haven't referenced the biggest
endorsement of this season, I said, chart topping. I think
(45:54):
Apple chose it as one of their best podcasts last year.
But that means nothing in comparison to the endorsement You've Got,
which was from one Ann Stevens, who did share the
Rob Mills episode, just with the two words he's gorgeous. Okay, okay,
she's got the huts for Rob Mills. Yeah she does,
which is like, I mean, I ambushed him and he
(46:15):
came in, and I think there was an ambush. Yes,
not appropriate. I yelled, you're my husband, yeah, which isn't
he's engaged, you shouldn't. Yeah. The last season, your Bloody
interviewed his fiance. So it's just all getting very awkward.
If you want to hear that awkwardness Claire blowing up
a future marriage, then listen to the later season of
But Are You Happy. There is a link in the show.
(46:35):
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