A Brutally Honest Review Of Babygirl

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's a huge mixed bag. We also do breally honest reviews,
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
Don't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So now you're about to hear our brutally honest review
of Nicole Kimmen's erotic new drama Baby Girl, which has
been a massive pop culture moment. So in our brutally
honest reviews, we delve into behind the scenes stories. We
analyze the characters and the scenes. Sometimes we have hilarious
breakdowns and things that happened in the movie. It's just

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about it.

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Speaker 1 (02:32):
So please enjoy this episode of Spill. Our brutally honest
review of Baby Girl. It's my favorite one itbe It's
one of our favorite brutally honest reviews we've ever done.
And that says a lot because these episodes are top tier.
And check out the show notes for more.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
From Mom and Maya. Welcome to The Spill, your daily
pop culture fix. I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brednick
and oh my god, do we have an episode for you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I feel like this episode has been in the works
for When did we first hear about this movie. I'm
going to say at least two years.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Ago, yes, and then we watched it two months ago.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
But before that the pressed to it and all of
the viral moments we're just all over our social feeds
and everywhere, so a lot of build up to this moment.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Too much if we ask me, We are doing our
brutally honest review of the Nicole Kidman film Baby Girl.
It's gonna be an explicit one. There's gonna be spoilers,
so make sure you watch the film before we actually
get into it. So make sure you save this episode,
watch the film, then come back and listen.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yes, so if you're not across our brilliant honest review format,
this is where we talk about a big TV show
or a movie that we're obsessed with but that we
know everyone is talking about. That's kind of become a
bit more of a cultural moment, whether for good or bad,
because it can go either way. So these episodes, as
Emily said, we're gonna get into the nitty gritty behind
the scenes, our own opinions, and also talk about the ending.

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This is a safe space.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
We've done a bunch of them, so if you haven't
heard them before, we will link our favorite ones in
the show notes.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
They're always our best episodes.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Rights everyone loves these episodes the most that's just that's
just start act. That's just the fact of life. I
want to link Gladiator because that's my favorite one. Which
one are you gonna link?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Maybe nobody wants this. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Day, that's a good one. Okay, Baby Girl, let's get
into it.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
So as we just say, we hope you've watched Baby
Girl before listening to this, because there's going to be
spoilers glore. But if you haven't, if you're a rule breaker,
a maverick, that's also fine. We welcome you here and
you need to know what it's about. The baby girls
of the world. Yes will Baby Girl is an erotic thriller.
That's how they still Yeah, it's an erotic thriller. Yeah,

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you got questioning questions of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
The bat Well thriller to me have a bit of
a scary element, and I.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Think this one was meant to, which we'll get into later.
It just didn't quiet nail. It just came across as
like mildly emotionally concerning.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Apparently it was there. So Baby Girl is about I
guess the overarching theme is about power, dynamics and relationships.
Nicole Kidman is the star of the movie. She plays
a CEO of a tech company. And then we also
have Harris Dickinson, who I feel like this is his
Can I call this a breakout role? I know he's
been in other stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, he's been in other things, but I guess where
the crawd Ads Sing was potentially his big breakout role
and he got a lot of critical acclaim and fandom
from that. But I think this is such a kind
of star making role. Yeah, this is such a star
making role. I think a lot of people will associate
him with this more so. Yes, we got Nicole Kidman
playing romy Mathis, who's a CEO of a very large
tech company, and Harras Dickinson playing Samuel Samuel in Turn

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where things take a bit of a turn with their
relationship and it really is about just exploring the themes
of their relationship to fall out of it, and you
know the sexual dynamics at play here with a lot
of other.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Stuff from my favorite character.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh oh yes, well we'll get to him now. We
need to have conversation.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You're very young. I don't want to arn you.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I think I have power over you because I could
make one call and you everything. Does that turn you
on wanna shay.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
How'd you get that dog to calm down?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I gave it a cook They always have cookies on you.
Why do you want one?

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So before I dedicate my love to Antonio Banderas, we
have to talk about just right at the beginning of
the film. You are introduced to the film with some noises.
They're quite sexy noises, and the noises are coming from
Nicole Kidman writing Antonio Banderas.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yep. So they get straight to the point of the
movie with a sex scene between this married couple who.
This is where it kind of gets into like that
very commercialized fiction element of the movie, because you have
these two very attractive, very wealthy people who on paper,
Nicole Kidmen's character romy has the perfect life. She's got
this hot husband who adores her. She's got two teenage

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daughters that she is like trying to be a very
doting mother to. They got that beautiful city apartment like townhouse,
plus the very elegant country home they go to on weekend.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
That confused me, Oh, really, Like I thought it was
the same house, the same like every single scene.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
No.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I was like, I'm very confused on why she's like
suddenly a tech ceo, but she lives in the wilderness.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, no, no, that's very rich city people to have a country.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
They're able to go to the country home like nearly
every day.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yes, and she's very successful with running her business while
also having this family life. So on paper, it's all
like perfect, this is what every woman should have, and
then quickly you learn what's happening behind the surface. And
I think what's really interesting at this movie is just
I guess, the overall setup of how it's really shot
through a female lens, and so much that comes from
Helena Rezin, who is the director, writer, and producer of

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Baby Girl. If you're on across that name. She's a
well known actress and filmmaker, but this is only her
second English language film, and her first one was the
incredible movie. I cannot recommend it enough. If you haven't
seen it, Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, I haven't you haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'm exciting.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, well, it's a.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Real This is where the sola comes in.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Body's Body's Bodies. Is this incredible like subversive take on
the thriller genre, but is incredible? Okay, think no, no,
you would really like it. You would love the cast,
like it's just it's so good. So she made that,
and because that was so well received, it kind of
gave her a bit more room, especially with A twenty

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four the studio that produced this movie to make Baby Girl.
But also so much of the movie, the fact that
it got made and that it was so successful was
Nicole Kidman attaching her name to it really early on.
And obviously once Nicole Kidment attaches her name to a movie,
that helps get it made and Nicole Kidman, you know,
say what you want about that woman, but she walks
the walk because she said that she was going to

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work with a certain amount of female filmmakers every year
and she was just going to do it, no excuses,
and she's like followed through that promise. So every year
she maps out all the projects she's gonna do, and
she has a certain amount that have to be made
with female filmmakers, otherwise she'll pull out of the project.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
And even like it's one of those things where when
you hear her say something like that, you're like, oh good,
she's standing up for the little guy. They end up
being these massive blockbuster films, like they're huge.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh yeah, she still picks the one, like, out of
all the offers, she still picked Baby Girl. Well, she
said she saw the title baby Girl and was like,
I want to be baby Girl. That was her thought process.
It's so funny because I was reading some interviews with
Helena and why she wanted to make this movie because
she wrote it, and some of her inspirations was that
she loves those really old school nineties strillers like Fatal Attraction,

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Basic Instinct, indecent proposal, which is yeah, which is what
the dynamic? Well, this is almost meant to be like
a spin on Fatal Attraction because you know that movie
It's Gone Close and Michael Douglas and they start an
affair and then she goes crazy and threatens to add
him to his family, and that comes into playing Baby Girls. Well,
a role reversal. But she also said that she begins

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every movie script that she works on with one question.
Do you are not? The question for so one question
that she wants to answer with the movie can I
guess you forget? Yeah? What's the question for Baby Girl?

Speaker 2 (10:23):
What lengths would you go to to obtain power?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean, you're not completely wrong, You're not completely right either,
Just to make that clear. The question is are we animals?
Or are we civilized?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Okay, I would never have a guest. Are animals or?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And then she elaborated on that and the answer is, well,
she elaborated that and said, can we make peace with
the animal inside all of us? Is it possible for
the different parts of ourselves to coexist and in turn
for us to love our whole selves without shame?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Because that's so much like five questions?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, Well, she's a right emily, like she's not gonna
writers can't just do one sentence. We all are, So
that's I guess what that opening scene with Nicole Kidmen
and Antonio Bander. Isn't it so interesting that for most
of the movie I was even unsure what Nicole Kidmen's
character name is. And even when people talk about this movie,
like everyone's been talking about this movie and they're calling
that character Nicole Kidman. But she has made such a

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big deal that she she created this woman and she
disappeared into her. But I just thought it was interesting
that maybe her name is said earlier and I missed it.
But when we were in that little cinema watching it
together before Christmas, when someone finally in her office said,
romy I was like, are we literally half an hour
into this movie and no one has said this woman's
name yet? Is that meant to be like a whole
thing of like she's just become like she's all these

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things to people, but no one actually says her name.
Or do they just say her name and I missed it?
Or are we just they did say her name?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
But it like I remember when I heard Antonio Bandera's character,
whose name I've also forgotten, say her name. That was
the first time I remember being like, oh, that's her name,
which is also the same thing I thought when I
watched Night Bitch. Yeah, like what is her name? I
don't know, Adam, Yeah, because like you're right, it's these
like massive films with these women who give everything, but

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like their identity is not their name, it's everything else.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, that's so interesting. So Antonio Bandera's character is named
Jacob just but also.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Also but we've heard Jacob a lot through the movie.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, so we hear that a lot, but we
also think of him as Antonio banderas and his casting
is really interesting because they cast him because he is
this really attractive guy, even like as he gets older,
like he's aged and just still looking very like conventionally attractive,
and he.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Has that like charisma with everything he's been in, like
every movie, even like him in interviews and stuff. He's
the kind of man who looks like he would know
how to have a good time with a woman. Yeah,
he has that charisma even in freaking Spi Kids.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, st your flash away.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, I did not expect Spi Kids to make appearance
like he's a sexy man.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
He has a sexy energy that there's no way that
he couldn't make a woman orgasm.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, you've seen him as Zoro right, yes, yeah, going
all the way back, he's like a sexy man. So
that is one hundred percent why they cast him. They
wanted to cast someone who was known as a sex symbol,
which he is, someone who was known as being like
could play a romantic lead and who really looked attractive,
And they wanted to show that Nicole Kimmen's character romy

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can't orgasm with him, even though on paper he's the
perfect guy. So they wanted to show because the didn't
want people look at the movie and be like, oh,
if she had a more masculine man or a more
handsome man, like, that's why she's not orgasming. Tony Bendariz is, Yeah,
the first and I wanted to say, at the end
of the day, it's your animal instinct, it's a mental side,
it's your desire. So I thought that was once you
have that context of like, oh, he's there, to show that,

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like sexual chemistry and sexual pleasure for a woman can't
just be linked to what a man looks like, which
I thought was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And I like in that beginning scene as well, like
the juxtaposition between the two orgasms that she has, So
the one that she has with Antonio, which is now
we know as a fake orgasm, sounded real. It's like
the orgasm that you hear a woman would make in
like a pornography or something, and we're like, Okay, she
had a great time with her husband, it's fine. Yeah,
And then we see her creep out and masturbate, and

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the sounds that come from that orgasm that when she's
masturbating is like the most guttural sound. The cinema was
shaky with her whole us, the mom and me employees
them together definitely like something that other workplaces I'm sure
don't do after work activity.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You guys, don't go and do that after work with
your boss, the owner of your company sitting behind you.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But it was like, literally the first fifteen seconds of
that film made me fully understand when she said I'm
so tired of orgasming in those interviews, I'm like, I
get it now. And we're only like two minutes into
the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Oh yeah, because she really went viral for that in
like a again a way that was helpful for the
movie because it made people more excited to see it.
But if you watch that full interview, she's not trying
to be like sexier playful when she says that. She's
talking about how physically demanding the role was and that
she just had to simulate so many different types of
orgasms in such a physical way, Like that scene where

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you see her having the real orgasm where she snuck
off to the study and she's watching that like dominant
submissive pawn and like lying face down and you see
her whole body like jerking and she's screaming, and her
shoulder you can see like the like bite, yeah, and
like the tension of even how she's like kind of
like rolling her neck side to side, trying to, like
keep trying to but yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I was like, Nicole Kimmen was really thrill right there.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Nicole Kidmen really went there. So I understand that she
got to the end of filming and she's like, not
only do I not want to pretend to orgasm anymore,
I don't want anyone to touch me. I don't want
to anyone to come near me, and no one look
at me. And I was like, yeah, do you know
she was saying she got so into character playing Romy,
which again, this is why I feel bad that everyone's
calling her to Cole Kidman, not Romy. She got so
into character playing Romy that she said she was walking

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like her, she was like moving like her, and they
were filming on the streets of New York and she
was so in her character as Romy, like I've got
to get to work, I've got to do this. That
she hailed a cab that wasn't part of the movie
set from the street they closed down, got in the
car as Romy gave like directions to Romy's offers, and
the cab drivers like okay and drove away, and production
had to rush after and be like Nicole, that's not

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part of the movie. That's not our cab, You're in
an actuable cab. And she was like, I was just
so in Romy's character on out for Keith Urbans, Oh
my gosh, coming home to teeth there, but like don't
touch me, which fair so. Also in the cast, we
have a strange actress, Sophie Wilde as Romy's assistant as me, she.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Was so annoying.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh what did you think? Yeah, yeah, but she's meant
to represent.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
She's meant to represent women.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
She represents a new generation of women in the workforce
who now have been raised on that idea of like
women can do anything, do this, push to the top,
all that sort of stuff that we were raised it. Yeah,
I putting us in the same generation with her.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Pissed off at her because she represents the person that
I would have been in that situation.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh my god. She's so emily vernon coated. And she's
also hosting a this podcast.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Imagine you dating the office hottie and then finding out
that the boss is like your boss, your CEO, not
just your CEO, your mentor. Yeah, the one who's like
like pushed you up, the one who's like promised your
promotion but you can never get that meeting in. Yeah,
And because you can't get that meeting in, it's because
she's having sex with the guy you're dating, No, and

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you know that he likes them more than you know that.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now you say, like that it's not a relatable problem, But.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
What I just know that that would be me if
that movie I meant.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
More so like and the thing is, she's saying all
the right things just in the context of the movie,
because you're just like, Okay, we get it. Yeah, women
in the workplace is important, but we want to see
the erotic sex thriller like any other. If this was
like a workplace newsletter, I'd be on your side as me.
But you're really taking me away from the drama. But
she is that woman who's been raised in a different
world to Romey. So Romi's had to like claw her
way up and es May's come up also having to

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work hard. But she's been told like women can do anything,
we can do this, can do that, and so she's
got roamy on this big pedestal and she's the one
who wants to sort of interrupt the work drinks with saying,
what are we doing to diversify like with women here?
Like what are we doing to get women in leadership
potent like power positions? What are we doing with the
internship program? So she's saying all the right things of
the generation we've been raised to perform like that. Yeah,

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it's like so different to what you see on like
an Instagram post of a of like an inspirational and
empowering quote. But when you actually sometimes see that in
the workplace, it can hit differently.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
And I think that different generations also is similar when
it comes to like women who are I want to
call them stars because they are like these huge stars
in the workplace who also have children, because when you
have children, like your work is not your entire life anymore.
And then there's like these other like younger women coming
in who don't have children. You are like living in
the city, who live like five minute walk from work,

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who are able to go to after work drinks and stuff,
who make work their entire life. Yeah, so when you're
having these conversations, they're not as important to each woman.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And I feel like that's like you could see that
happening in the conversation where esmay it's just like I
want my promotion, I want my promotion, like every meeting
she's talking about herself and like you can see that
Romy's mind is just somewhere else. Yeah, our mind as well,
but like as me shut up, you'll get it girl,
just not right now, like leave us alone.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's interesting because when I heard that Sophie Wilde, who
is one of the most exciting actresses to come out
of Austraya in the last few years, like some of
the performances she's done a completely groundbreaking. The role she
has coming up are really exciting, like she's going to
be like a Margo Robbie level famous in a couple
of years from Australia. And so when I heard she
was in Baby Girls, like, oh, it's so exciting for her,
like her and a call to Australian gals. And then

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when I saw her performance, I was like, oh, is
it almost wasted that you've got Sophie wild in here,
because when you're actually watching the movie, it feels like
maybe a bit of a nothing role. But the more
I thought about it, I was like, it's actually good
to have an actress of her caliber in that role
because it could have come off as very one dimensional,
like complaining work woman, whereas she gives an extra depth

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to it, like the look on her face when she
realizes what Samuel and Romi are doing, Like you see
it all go through her eyes of like realizing it,
being horrified, and then like making a decision, and that's
all just done through Sophie World's face.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
But it feels he destroyed her life, like I feel
like when I saw that scene in particular, I saw
like everything that has happened to her like up until
that moment, because I feel like every young woman, like
a professional young woman, would have experienced it. Like There's
been times where I've been in my career where my
manager or my boss I think about them twenty four
to seven, Like I'm at drinks with my girlfriends and

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we're talking about how to have that next conversation with
them and talking about how to ask for a page
eyes and they're just like infiltrated your life in every
single like little pocket. And I know that my manager
only thinks about me when she sees me.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, And the interesting thing is I've been on both
sides of that. I've been the person who I think
about what my manager thinks of me and my work,
like weekend nights all the time when I'm on holidays,
and I'm always like, oh, they'll think this, they'll think
that of me, like or they're thinking this, or they're
they're judging me on that, or they're worry about this
to me. And then you actually when you sit down
with them, you're like, Oh, you don't think about me
at all, except when I'm in a meeting that you alive.

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And then I've had the same thing where I've been
managing people and then they've called meetings to me and
they've gone through stuff and they're going like, maybe you
feel this, maybe you're doing that, and I'm like, except
when I've had to think of you at my work
hours this week, you have not crossed my mind outside
of work hours.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
And I think you see that in Esma's face, like
when she's like, oh, we're still talking, like she still
hasn't got me my promotion. Yeah, And you just see
that in our eyes and you feel so sad, but
you're also like, yes, what did you expect.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
I know I did not expect to take away workplace
politics from this movie, and I'm sure people who listen
to the podcast that's not what they're after. But that's
what we got.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
That's what we got. Oh, being a CEO means being
a nurturer and a collaborator.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
No, what.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
What you want.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
The happiest fantasies?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
It's about giving and taking hour, whatever you do, whatever
you know me to do. Good girl.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Other really interesting bit of casting before we move on
to the sexy scenes is that Romy's daughter Isabelle. The
other daughter doesn't really get much spare time. That's fine.
Romy's daughter Isabelle. Yeah, the meaning Yeah, well, the more
complex one who's going through something, cheating on her girlfriend
and is kind of holds a mirror up to some
things that are happening in her mother's life. Yes, quite nice.

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Is played by Esther McGregor who is you baby? Yes,
an EPO baby who you know has gotten this role
through her father Who is You? And McGregor who very
infamously starred with Nicole Kidman. He could have been the
husband in mo One Rouge. No, he doesn't have it.
It had to be Antonio And again, like again, she's
great in this role Esther McGregor, and I think she's
a really interesting actress. But it is a big part

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of the movie's promo. Nicole brought it up all the time.
That was Ewan's daughter who was playing her daughter. So
it was this kind of big circle moment from Mulan Rouge.
And you know, whenever any publicity information came out about
the movie, it was always like Esther McGregor, daughter of You,
And so it does it gives her like a bit
of extra promo to be in the movie. But she
was great.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
She was good.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, so we need to talk about the moment where
romy and Samuel meet for the first time, which is
on the street with the dog thoughts.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Did you want this was an important part of the movie.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, it is actually now that you mentioned it. I
was thinking of when she was introduced him as like
the intern. Yeah, in their lock eyes. No, the dog
part was weird to me.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
It's almost too like meta in terms like it just
hits you over the head with the premise of what's
to come in a way that's almost too heavy handed. Yes,
like he's taming this dog and the dog submits to him,
and she's looking at him and she's.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Getting turned on by Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I do
want to say that, like she did what I felt
like we were all thinking because I don't know how
he acted that way, but like in the whole dog scene,
he knew what he was doing without even realizing it. Yeah,
he obviously recognized her because he's like, I'm about to
work for that woman. Yeah, and then he just saw
something in her eye and then like gently started like

(24:25):
patting the dog and got really quiet, and the treats
in his pocket because like after that whole situation, she
was taking the back because she need got attacked by
the dog. And then you see them formally meet as
like with the group of interns, and then she approaches
him in the kitchen and she was like, how did
you get that dog to come down? And he was like,
I had treats in my pocket, do you want one?

(24:47):
And I was like, oh, that's where it starts. And
he knew he got her in that moment.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, that's where the power dynamic between them starts to shift.
And I've seen a lot of people like kind of
mock them. Milk scene in the bar when he sends
the milk over to her table and they lock eyes
and she downs in one go, and that it's weird
how like a tall glass of milk has really become
almost one of like the biggest takeaways in the movie,
like to call him in took a glass of milk
on stage and award show people have handed her milk

(25:15):
on red carpet. She's posed with glasses of milk. It's
become a real symbol of like subservience to a sexual partner.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Because it's baby, right, like only babies drink. Now she's
like drinking milk and she's the baby girl.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, good girl. I mean that's not that deep.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
You're like the amount of like critical analysis I read
about this fucking glass of milk. It's not that deep.
Like we all get it.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I know, like I said, they're beating you over the
hair with it. It's not to be this really.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Hidden something by giving us like a full analog of
the history of milk. It's not that deep.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
She sees him tame the dog, she wants him to
tame her. He tells her to drink the milk. She
does it to sort of signal like I'm in the game,
and right, it's not that deep.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And then they like you have to move on, and
that's our brutally.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
What did you think about the scenes early on in
the movie where you see like roomy kind of running
her family, running her big business empire, but also having
to take the time out of her busy daye like
go and get all her beauty treatments, and actually having
a shot of a botox needle going into Nicole Kim's
face because that's not something you see in these kind
of movies very often.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Okay, the mentioning of her age without actually mentioning it
was so scary to me, Like this is probably the
most the thriller part.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Really, this is the thriller because.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think it's I felt like every mum has experienced this,
but it's the first time I've actually seen it in cinema.
And I want to talk about two instances where the
fact her age was brought up in a really like
upsetting way that I found upsetting personally. And the first
time was when she came down in the kitchen and
was like telling her daughter to do something, you like

(26:49):
eat breakfast or something, and her daughter was like, why
do you get all that shit in your face? Like
she looks crazy and yeah, and like it's one of
those things that I feel like not even teenagers, but
like even like kids who are like a bit younger
than teenagers, who they know like where to hit you at,
like your most insecure point, and they just go hard
and they know they can do it because they're kids.

(27:10):
And it's like something that I feel like I've also
leant into when I was younger, Like you just want
to find like hurt someone, So that's the first thing
you go to. It's so common with young girls as well,
like you just know that there's a deeper reason why
you're seeing like older women like make these altercations to
their faces and their bodies, and you know it's like
a pain point and then you just go hard.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, So that was the first time I was like,
oh my god, like yeah to mess up, and as
a mom, because she's a mom, she just had to
be like like roll her eyes and be like oh whatever,
like that would have genuinely stung, Like that would have actually.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Oh yeah, because there's a few times in the movie
when Nicole Kimmen's or Romy's age is like throw it
in her face through her daughter, and then Samuel does
it later on, and it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the second one, yeah, And it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Just reminded that no matter, like you can be like
conventionally beautiful and attractive, like she is successful, rich, all
these things, but the worst thing you can say to
a woman is that she's old, even in a movie
like this, I guess I mean in a movie like this,
like it's trying to highlight that as a way to
be subversive. And I also think it was just interesting
because Nicole Kimmen is someone who the chat around her
face and what does she have done and how much

(28:13):
is she lying about and she never talks about it,
and then they showed the botox needle going in. It's
almost like alluding to this idea of there's always something
happening behind the scenes to make a woman look like
she's worthy of success and worthy to like be in
the conversation still.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yes, And it's also the way that she reacted to
those moments, Like the second time, as you mentioned, was
the time where both her and Samuel were in the
car and she was telling him that like she doesn't
think that they should continue their romantic relationship, and she
locks the car doors and he freaks out and he's like,
open the fucking door, open the door, yeah, And he's like,
if you think that like I'm going to fall in

(28:48):
love with you.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You're like a mom. Yeah, and she's like, okay, just
calm down. And so things were like if I was
in that situation like with Samuel and he like called
me like a mom, would like inverted comments because we
know what that actually means. It actually means by that,
plus her daughter is saying why together that's in your face?
Is those moments that if I was in that situation,
I would have like broken down I had and been
really upset. Because you see her in this position like

(29:11):
a woman in power, you like kind of can tell
that she took a real long time to get into
that position. She can't break down and every single time
that happens to her, because it would have happened to
her like constantly. Yeah, So it gets to a point
where now when people like dig at her about her
looks or her age or something about her, she just
has to brush it off. Yeah, Like she can't react
because otherwise she'll be racking to everything.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah. Yeah, oh my god, so many lazy. That's an
interesting thing about this movie to kind of now get
into the first time that they hook up, is that
even though they kept saying like it's an erotic thriller
or it's an erotic drama. Through the whole press to her,
they were really pushing the drama side of it, and
no one was really listening because they were just hearing
orgasms and milk. And so when you come into their

(29:53):
first sex scene, there's like this really heightened excitement of like, yes,
we're finally going to see the good stuff, and then
it doesn't really pan out like that. Like I think
if you come into this movie thinking it was going
to be some I know, fifty Shades of Gray is
like an offensive term or at the time to the
BDSM community because they felt like it was off the rails.
But it does, I think, represent this very commercialized idea
of taking that particular sexual preference and making it almost

(30:17):
like a fantasy. Like you it's this ritually suave man
who easily can make you orgasm and becomes obsessed with you,
and I think a lot of people were thinking that
that's what this movie was going to be about. But
when they get into the hotel room and have sex
for the first time, it's almost have you seen a movie, secretary? No, Okay,
definitely go and watch that that's Maggie Dyllen Hall, but

(30:37):
it's a similar kind of thing with a workplace BDSM relationship,
but it's much closer to how that particular sexual preference
plays out where they think. This was a bit of
a different dynamic. But I loved how you see Roomy
come to the hotel room to meet him, and when
she decides to submit to him for the first time,
and that's when you see like he's not this sexual
mastermind or because he has been dominating her and being

(31:01):
like the more empower one. There's always been a push
and pull before that, where like he would go to
kiss her and then she would time to stop. Say,
still had a power in balance between them. But when
she finally gives up the power and balance, he looks
really shocked and doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
He has no idea.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yeah if he list time as well, oh okay stand
by the wall and starts laughing yes, yeah, And then
he looks in that moment where she says, okay, what
do I do? And this look of horror goes over
his face. He looks like someone who light in a
job interview, got the job, went to work and then
was like, what do I do. What do I do?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I've seen so many tiktoks of people saying, you can't
tell me that this is just terroristick inston breaking character.
I don't no idea what to do.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Well, it's funny because I obviously had an intimacy coordinator
on set they spoke with, but they didn't map out
all the sex scenes as other movies do. Well. They'll
almost choreographed them where they'll say like, Okay, he's gonna
put his hand here, he's gonna pull it down to
this point in your arm, then he's gonna move it
across your stomach, then you're gonna put your leg through
up here. Like a lot of sex scenes are like
that now, where it's completely mapped out and no part

(32:01):
of anyone else. Yeah, no part of anyone's skin gets
touched without prior written permission. But for Baby Girl, what
they did is they just sat down with the intimacy
coordinator will like, Okay, this is my absolute limit and
this is what I'll do here, and then they just
kind of went to town and just improvised it over and
over again on the day. So all those times where
she's lying on the ground, she starts writing and he's

(32:21):
putting his hands on her and stuff is a little
bit improvised. Did you think it was sexy? No, yeah,
me neither, but not in a bad way.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Not in a bad way, but in a way where
I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I don't actually think it was meant to be sexy
to us, you know how you say some movies and
you're watching it.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
It felt quite clinical. But they had a job to
do and they were executing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Again, the people in the movie never build this as
the sexiest movie of the year or anything like that.
The audience did that from the little snippets we were getting,
which is fair because they were showing the sexy stuff
to get people to come and watch it. But it
was so funny. There's so many movies where you watch
these really like fantasy sex scenes and you're just like, fuck,
I'd love to be involved in that, And then you're
watching Baby Girl and you're like, oh no, I would

(33:02):
keep die before I go into that room with either
one of them. But it's so interesting to watch, and
I think that was very much that's what they wanted.
They wanted it to be this exploration of who she was,
and they're doing it through sex. But it's not meant
to be sexy. You're not meant to wish you were there.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, you're meant to, like see, I think you're just
meant to experience like her trying to figure out like
her kink basically, which I feel like should only be private.
You should only like figure out your own kink in
your own time, bring us along with your jam.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Off the clock. I guess it does get maybe a
little bit more fantasy roxy.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I feel like, are the bits that aren't sex, right?
Isn't that a girl and stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
That's such a female thing where we're just like, oh, we.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Don't touch me and just like talk or look into
my eyes and like treat me like a human being
over there. Yeah, that's such a female thing to be like, Oh,
I'm not sort of getting super turned on obviously, Like
everyone's different, like happy for her, happy for her, she's.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Achieving the dream exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
But those first moments in the hotel room or later
on where they have these like little forbidden moments and
stuff like that dance, I didn't like all that's supposed
to be his like sexiest, most humanizing moments.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
What would you do in that situation.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I mean, but I'm the wrong person starts dancing for you.
I mean, it depends how many times different.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's just like in his own little world.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Everything's different when you're in a sex haze, though, Like
we're sitting there watching the movie with our colleagues, like
and someone's eating popcorns, so we're not gonna have that
that moment. But I think the most the most romantic
scenes are like when they're like in the hotel rooms
together later on and she's feeling so like fulfilled because
of all the orgasms. She's finally having three sex that
she's never had before, and they're lying in bed together

(34:40):
and he's looking into her eyes, or they're like he's
holding her and like just like putting his hands over
her body.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Like when they're swimming in the pool, yeah, or then
they come out of the pool, n't feel scary.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's all those moments that for women we need like
a real backstory. And obviously no men and women watch
porn in equal measure, but I think a lot of
the time with men, like when they watch porn, they
just need to kind of see the act itself, whereas
women are like, oh, but what's the backstory or what's
this person doing or this particular type of stuff for
it to work for you, And I think that's you
see those two different elements in the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
One thing that I thought was really interesting was when
Antonio Benderes catches them and then him, what's the same
Jacob Jake.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'm Antonio. It's Antonia Nicole and Harrison.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's Jacob Nicole and.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Jab Nicole and Samuel.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
I know they will become their characters anyway. When Jacob
the husband comes and catches them in the holiday house
and then him and Samuel kind of start punching each other.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, which is fair.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
And then the conversation that happened after I think was
so interesting where I'm just gonna say, Antonio menders I
can't no, it's okay. Antonio Mandera says.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
She hadn't even given him a character name.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
When Antonio Mendera says to Samuel, do you not see
she's taking advantage of you? Because I feel like we
never see that in the heated moment, and I think
it comes with the role reversal, Like you could tell
that Antonio Benderaz, instead of being like extremely angry at her,
straight up he actually really thinks there's something wrong with her,

(36:12):
and he's telling this young guy like she's taking advantage
of you. Get out, like go, and that only ever
happens like well after, like either well after where they've
come to terms with it, or like if it's like
a woman and then she just becomes friends with the
person's husband's having an affair with and then they try
to get back at him, Like this is the first

(36:32):
time I've seen where like both these men seeing Nicole
as something to like look after or fix. Yeah, that
they don't put the blame on her.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Oh yeah, that's so true. Just too bro is coming together?
What do you think then when Antonio van Derres no
character name starts having essentially a panic attack, like you
think he's having a heart attack. Then he starts having
a panic attack, and then Samuel.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Nineteen year old has to come.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Samuel uses his powers of persuasion to calm him down.
Gen Z, that's so funny to say. The camera flashes
to romy She looks concerned when she thinks he's having
a heart attack, but when she realized what's happening, that
woman gets thick so bad.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Samuel's you know what everyone in my generation has one
of these yeah good, Yeah, she gets the icks so
bad that she's like, oh god, yeah, now my like
situationship has to like deal with my husband.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, and she's like, we know.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Out of here. I thought that was a really interesting
that they left that in there, Yeah, that they did
it in the first place, because it's true. You see,
like Antonio Bydnas is meant to be like this big
hanto like successful man with like the beautiful family, and
he like fully breaks down in that scene like you
can't understand, like why how is life has gotten so
out of hand?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And I think that's interesting because there's so many movies
where you see the husband finds out the wife is
having an affair and he gets violent and angry and sullid.
It's not very often that you see the man have
that very emotional physical response, which is very realistic.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But I think it also comes with the power dynamic, right,
because everything I've seen where like the wife has an
affairs because the husband's constantly working and she's not getting
intention whereas like now it's like how could you possibly
have had time to do?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's like ow, yeah, he actually has a lot. He
was like how did you fit this in?

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, And I think that reaction from it just kind
of made more sense than the full anger and like
who is he? And get out of my house? He's
just like fully breaking down as like the I guess
the family man who's trying to keep it all.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, oh my gosh, what a what a what a scene?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Antonio banderas Stanti.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, I hope that man's okay. And to finish off,
what did you think of the ending? Because I'm really
in two minds about it. On one side, I felt
it was just.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I felt it was a bit mess I thought it
was a bit of a cop.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Out in some ways and a bit like very like
a fantasy element of like this woman's feeling unfulfilled in
her perfect life and she goes and have a wild
fling and then she goes back to her happy marriage,
taking with her the lessons of the fling, and everything
is perfect. That's how at first I was like, that
feels like a bit of a copper out to have
everything tied up so neatly in this perfect little bow,

(39:01):
like this is a little Hallmark movie when you were
trying to be subversive. But then I actually thought the
more I thought about it, because I have thought about
this movie quite a lot since we saw it. Then
I started to think, is it more subversive to have
a woman be able to go off and not be
this perfect step for wife and go off and have
this exploration and finally be upfront about what she needs
to be sexually fulfilled and not be shamed for it,

(39:24):
not be punished for it, because in so many movies
when women go off and get fulfilled sexually, they get
punished at the end of the movie because their husband
leaves them, or their children turn away from them, or
their lover doesn't want them anymore, or they have to
grovel and apologize and promise they'll never do it again.
And she didn't do that, So is it more subversive
that she got that? And then she got her life

(39:45):
and then she took one at the end of the
day she did win. I like that. We don't usually
see women win when sex is involved in movies.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I thought it was more like, we see her so
we see that, like she taught Antonio Benderoz how she
likes to be pleasured. Yeah, and then he was taking
that on and be back on at the end where
they were having sex. But I saw it in a
way because do you remember, like in those like in
between scenes, she was trying like some really hardcore therapy
hypnotized like sessions of trying to like go through what

(40:13):
happened to her as a child, to try to figure
out why she's so obsessed with a specific king. Yeah,
and I thought that was a way of telling to us, like,
she never will be sexually satisfied. Yeah, She'll always want
something more and something different and something more unusual, because
like in that end sex scene with Antonio Benderaz, you
can still see the uncertainty in both of their faces.

(40:33):
She does like orgasm, we hear that general noise, but
I feel like we're left with an uncertainty that will
be like every time they have sex. Yeah, and I
feel like it's one of those things where she could
possibly take on a new lover and they'll just keep going.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah. Yeah, that's such an interesting take. And also, like
in Fantas to Romi is a character before she really
gets very involved in this affair, she does try to
tell Antonio Banderas how she wants to have sex, and
she tries to show him it's like that when she
like lies down puts a pillow, over facings. I want
it like this, someone like this, and then he tries
when he starts giggling, which is it's kind of like

(41:07):
the most shameful thing you can do is laugh at
someone when they tell you what they're for.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
How long you've been married?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, which is kind of the most shameful thing. So
later on that you see how they've got their point
in this relationship. And this woman has been humiliated many
times throughout the movie, but she comes out on top.
So maybe that is subversive. Man, it is a drama.
At the end of the day. Look at that. They
proved us wrong. The weekend watch Okay, take a deep breath,

(41:42):
because it's now time after all that, for we can watch. Yes,
I'm not gonna leave you hanging if you're looking for
something else new to watch this week after taking all
that Baby Girl information, so obviously, the really big release
of this week is Apple Cider Vininger, the new Netflix
series based on the story It's not.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Way to finish it. I'm itching to get out.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh yeah, because you've got a few more episodes to go,
which is the story of Bell Gibson. Bit of a
fictionalized story. We did already talk about that this week.
But if you miss that episode, just know that that
is the TV show that you should be binging this
weekend Apple Ciinnder Vinegar on Netflix, because we're going to
talk about it again next week. But if you've already
watched that, you're looking for something else, I have a
movie to bring to your attention. This is one of

(42:21):
those times in weekend Watch where I'm going to call
it less of a recommendation and more of an FYI.
This is out if you want to watch it. And
it's a movie called Kind of Pregnant, which just came
out on Netflix this week.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Do you ever tell like such a big lie you
don't know how to get out of it?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
How's your pregnancy going?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
My god?

Speaker 4 (42:38):
How cute?

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Now?

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Hey, cute face almost tore my ass whole open. I've
always known I want a family.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Have you ever dated a pregnant one.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
That you're the least pregnant person I've ever?

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Wow? Yeah, any waits on they're crowning.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, I want them to be like two weeks away
from dropping. So the reason I sat down to watch
this movie is that it stars and was co written
by Amy Schumer. Now I know Amy Schumer gets a
lot of flak because she's had a few less than
stellar releases in the last couple of years. But I
have found a lot of her comedy very funny. Over
the years, I haven't seen her in a I think
she does tour and she does bits and pieces, but

(43:12):
she hasn't had like a really big movie release, I
think since Snatched, the Goldihorn movie that came out many
years ago now. But I always think Inside Amy Schumer,
which was her Comedy Central Sketch show, was really groundbreaking.
I've watched a lot of her stand up. She's amazing.
I don't know. I just always find her funny, so
I'm always happy to support an Amy Schumer project. This
one was fine, is all I'm gonna say so. In

(43:34):
the movie, Amy Schumer plays a school teacher named Laney
and her best friend is played by Jillian Bell, who's
another comedic genius who've had on the spiel before, plays
her best friend Kate. She's a school teacher she's always
dreamed of being a mother, but her long term relationship
has just ended when Kate, her best friend, announces that
she's pregnant and Amy Schumer's character, Laney is obviously happy

(43:56):
for her, but very jealous. And then, in a setup
that can only happen in a Netflix movie like this,
she decides that she will pretend to be pregnant so
she can kind of be like accepted by that world
and see what it's like. And that leads to like
a lot of funny moments, a lot of few to
call comedy from Amy Schumer, a lot of like pregnancy
body joke, because that's always kind of her area that
she's really good, and it's just making those kind of

(44:16):
big jokes at her expense. It also point like a
bigger conversation. Yeah, Obviously things start to go awry as
the movie goes on because she's not pregnant, so eventually
her secret with all these people that she's bonded with
will be found out. But she also starts dating and
falling in love with this Skuy, so she does get pregnant,
but then she's gonna explain to him that she's not
actually pregnant, which is a bit of you know, every
love story has to have a bit of a foil,

(44:37):
and for this one, it's I'm lying about being pregnant.
This is a fake bump.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
That's so fae.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
So what I'll say is like, it's fine. Gillian Bell's great,
Amy Schumer's great. She needed something to really elevate it
to be like a really groundbreaking comedy. But I'll just
say like it's a nice movie to put on the weekend.
It's just really like a fun, really easy watch as
long as you go into it knowing it's not going
to be this really sharp, groundbreaking comedy that maybe you
had expected from an Amy Schumer type before. But yeah,

(45:02):
kind of pregnant on Netflix. It's kind of good, not great.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
It's just kind of good, kind of pregnant, kind of good. Yes,
I've got to recommend.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, well that's great because this is the time of
the show.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
But I feel really proud of this one because I
got sneaky little screeners.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Well now she's getting screeners. She feels like a professional.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So I watched this whole first season of this show,
hoping that's second season, cause I'm obsessed. It's out right
now on Prime. It's called clean Slate.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Hello, I ain't this fas so lady living a good
time right now? My son's coming in, Dad. I'm your daughter, Desiree.
I've always been Desiree. We haven't spoken on the law.
How long is what happened?

Speaker 1 (45:51):
This place looks exactly the same. I don't know what
they say.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
They ain't broke, don't fix it.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's broke.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I gotta fix it.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
How about crash with you?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Ain't crashing when you're.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Home until they're gonna have to be decorated.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Oh yes, I have heard of and it stars Laverne Cox.
And you might know Laverne Coxy just being an absolute angel,
but I think most people saw her for the first
time on Orange Is a New Black, which he absolutely
nailed that role. It is a comedy. It is so funny.
So it stars Lemonn Clox obviously as Desiree, and her
father is played by George Wallace, who, if you don't know,

(46:31):
he is like a massive stand up comedian in the US.
He's been around for years and years and years, and
like he's come back to do this show. He plays Harry,
who's like a car wash owner. And then his a
strange child comes to visit him after seventeen years and
he realizes that his estrange child has transitioned him too
a woman, and it's Lverne Cox, and she moves in

(46:52):
with him, and then they just kind of have this
like really fun relationship where they're starting to learn about
each other again. It is so freakin' funny. Someone I
feel like you would know who's in the show. So
he was so he's so hot, you would know he's
so hot. And I looked, I was like, where has
he been in before?

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Now?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
For about if I don't know who is I want to.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Say his name? Wait, let me can find his name,
Jay Wilkinson.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
I'd have to see a picture and Younger, Oh he's who.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Let me show you a photo.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Okay, show me a photo. Obviously I know everyone in Younger,
but that name doesn't ring a bell.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
This guy, he doesn't look good here, but he's so
hot in the show.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Oh it is that Kelsey's boyfriend in Younger, and then
he came back as his twin after her boyfriend was killed.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I don't know, I haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Watch Younger. Oh that's such a big issue to talk about. Okay,
all right, yeah, that guy great, he's so hot.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
He plays her love interest. Okay, and they have like
a really cute like because he's like an ex convict
and he has like the sassy daughter and then she
tries to get on both their sides and they both
love her. It is so funny because like there's only
just come out, so there's not that much out there,
like information about it. But I was reading some of
the comments on YouTube, and so many people were saying
that this is a kind of comedy that they've always wanted,

(48:06):
Like it's so diversity and representation is so important in
cinema and TV, and I feel like we are getting
more of it, but it feels like that those like
big stories, especially about the trans community, are always either
like thrillers or like horrors or dramas or really like
slow sad coming of ages, and at that time it
was really important. But this is just such a fun,

(48:27):
light hearted comedy and it's so good to see representation
across all genres. Laverne Cox is freaking hilarious, so so funny.
I want everyone to watch this. It's just like one
of those really feel good TV shows that you could
literally turn on any episode and you'll be like, this
is just fun. It's just fun on Prime Video. Thank

(48:47):
you so much for listening to The Spill today, Baby girls,
We love you so much. The Spill is produced by
Kimberly Bradish, with sound production by Scott Stronik. We will
be back here in your podcast feed at three pm
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Bye bye

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