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January 1, 2025 15 mins

This is a risk assessment we did on Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck's relationship days before they broke up.

For J-Lo and Ben, entering the Cancelled courtroom together is just another collaboration to add to their long list of projects, so why not one more?

Before "Bennifer" even existed, they starred in a (very wrong) movie called Gigli. Skip forward twenty years, they've rekindled their love, married and made a few more films, like This Is Me... Now and The Love Story Never Told. Art. 

Listen to the full episode here: Bennifer: When Your Marriage Has Too Much Content.

A LIST OF EVERYONE WE'VE CANCELLED ALONG THE WAY: 
Jennifer "I Just Use Olive Oil" Lopez
Ben "The Man With The Full Back Tattoo" Affleck

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mom and Maya
acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters that this
podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome to canceled The

(00:31):
Lazy Girl's Guide to Bizarre celebrity cancelations. Jesse and Claire
here and Mary new Years as they say thank you
for joining us in twenty twenty five. I just know
celebrities are going to do some stupid kid this year,
and it's going to be very, very helpful to this
little podcast of our. Sometimes we're like, what if we
run out, and it's just never a probably, it's just not.

(00:51):
Someone pops up and we're like, thank you. Yes, we
knew you'd miss us over the summer break, so we're
not going to go anywhere. We're putting on a hot
pod summer kind of the opposite of what you might
expect from us. We love a holiday. But Mother may
I is releasing a bunch of new episodes across all
of our podcasts. Just a note, if you've got a

(01:12):
Lazy Girl story for us, can you please send it
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Underscore thoughts. Maybe you have a lazy girl habit, something
you do every single day, a story from years ago.
We are obsessed with them. Please take the time on
this holiday break to do the thing you be meaning

(01:33):
to do, which is send us your lazy girl story. Today,
we need to talk about Benefer. We recorded this episode
knowing it was only a matter of time before they
announced their divorce. It was one week, yes, one week
for Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. Entering the canceled courtroom
together is just another collab to add to their long
list of projects. Before Benefit even existed, they starred in

(01:55):
a terrible movie called Giggly Yiggly Jilly Jilly. Skip forward
twenty years and they've rekindled their love, married and made
a few more films like This Is Me Now and
The Love Story Never Told. This is a moment from
our big episode on Benefit, the couple that simply created

(02:17):
too much content. This is Me Now. I don't know
how to tell you what this is about. I watched
it this morning. I had it on in the background.
I had it on. Luna was just crawling around and
I was trying to watch It is the first film
she's ever been exposed to and she stopped and said,

(02:38):
what is this? What the fuck is this? Make it end?
I was like, honey, I don't know. It's a visual album,
but it has like a script source a musical, and
there's a wedding and too many famous people are in it.
And there is a line that she wrote because she
wrote the script that says she's smart, she's beautiful. Why
does she always need to be with someone? Which I

(02:59):
respect Jen? Jen. I watched it, and in terms of
the celebrity cameos, I was like, this so interesting because
it's an insight into who can't say no exactly because
everyone was asked. Everyone Lizzo said no, I can't do that.
If I was a Hollywood person, would I have been

(03:20):
in it? Absolutely? Absolutely? You never Noah, was there the
idea of hurting Jen's feelings when she seems like a
sweet person. Okay, So there's This is Me Now and
then and there's also The Greatest Love Story Never Told,
which is a documentary about This is Me Now. So
in the Greatest Love Story Never Told, we learn that
she did ask a lot of celebrities and she got
really upset when they said no. And then they were

(03:43):
like oh, so and so says that they're at a wedding,
and she's like call them, like she's just forcing them
to be in her movie. And then she's like, it's
because they don't like the script, and then she gets
very sad. Well. In one scene, the casting director says
to her, we sent out all the offers last night
to everybody. We're waiting to hear back from a few people.
And then a voice off camera says, Taylor Swift is

(04:05):
a no, Jason Momoa is not available, Jennifer Coolidge not available,
Lizo not available. Then someone asks j Loo if she
wants Vanessa Hudgens by the way, and she responds for
what fabe for? Another person says she's not available. At

(04:25):
another point, Jennifer says it'd be good to get Bad
Bunny to do a little cameo as the bad kid,
and she's then told Ariana Grande is unavailable. She's in
London until September, and when they're talking about her famous
friends being busy, she says, I don't want to force
anybody to do this. Who doesn't go this is going
to be fun. Nobody wants to say no to me.

(04:46):
I get that, But when an actor doesn't like a
script or doesn't think it's good enough, or is worried
about it. That's what they'll say. I know that I've
done it, so don't push them. Don't push it a
mate when they say no to a script, don't want
to be in your film. Well, the other thing she
says because apparently Chloe Kardashian was supposed to make a

(05:07):
cameo and it didn't happen. And she says people are
scared to put themselves out there. I get it took
me a long time. I'm scared. I don't think that's it.
Then I talk about Taylor Swift. She's put herself out
there plenty. Taylor Swift scared of the power of the
platform jaylo I would offer her. Honestly, It's gives me
a lot of respect, like knowing that somebody like Lizzo

(05:30):
got a call and then said, let me know what
I respect is that a call was made to listen. Yeah, yeah,
that's what I respect. Because just for some context, she
writes this album This is Me Now, and it was
about because this is Me Then was written when she
was first with Ben and she only writes albums when
she's with ben she didn't write an album in like
twenty years. Anyway, she writes, this is me Now. She's like, okay, yep,

(05:53):
I want to tell this story. I'm going to make
it like this movie visual album. And some distributor is like, yeah, yeah, cool,
we'll give you some money. And then they pull it
and they're like actually I think they saw the script,
but they were like, this doesn't make us any money,
like Beyonce sing didn't make us money. This isn't a
good business. Move fast. And then she realizes that she's

(06:13):
got a fund it. But that's not the answer. I
would just pull. I would just pull. Sometimes we're told
no because the answer is no. So it's a three
part multimedia project. What is that twenty million dollars of
her own money? And the description says it examines and
plays with her life as a serial romantic. And she

(06:36):
says it's a twenty year project. But we can't say
it's twenty year project just because we don't do anything
else the twenty years. Yeah, well we relatable. Neil de
grass Tyson is a literal astrophysicist. He writes books about
traveling to space. He has a species of frog named
after him. Why is he in j Loo's movie? Could
have done so much science. We are so diecal Council,

(06:59):
but the stars hold all the power. When she did
the greatest love story never told, except all she does
is tell it. She wanted to tell the story in
all mediums immediately available to her. Yes. Right. At one point,
she brings this book in that Ben gifted her, which
has all their emails from two thousand and two, and
they interview someone who's like, we were allowed to touch

(07:22):
the letters. I don't believe it, And it's like, is
Jlo making this film too? And did she make you
say that? And these people think they are touching a
diary of great hist roles signific Winston Churchhill and not
a printed out email from Ben. You've been showing all

(07:44):
the musicians all these letters that are and they were like, yeah,
we call you pen a flag. And she exclaims, I
don't expect anyone to get this, like why are you
making it? Because she wants people to believe in love.
She says, don't you see my favorite scene? She has
to leave the set and everyone's chasing her asking questions

(08:07):
because she's the boss, and she's just like, it's very
Jenny from the Black Life. Oh, I'm so overwhelmed, and
she's getting in a car that's like actually a track
it's and it's very like, oh my gosh, this project
is huge, and it's like you solely are responsible to this.
You can pull the plug at any point, any you
can go. This is too much. She's like, I have
to go, and I'm like, where Jen. This is your project,

(08:27):
your only project, except for the documentary you're making about
this project. But someone is filming that documentary now because
I'm watching the greatest love story Never told. Okay, then
there's another documentary I found called Ben and Jen Never

(08:51):
Say Never, Ah, which is confusing because Justin Bieber's documentary
is called Never Say Never. The timeline reads like a
soap opera, two decades filled with hot romance, heartbreak, multiple marriages,
broken engagements, and five children between them. The love story
of pop icon Jennifer Lopez and movie star Ben Affleck
began with a movie set meeting in two thousand and two,

(09:12):
which waved its way to the altar twenty years later,
Share the Secrets of Pink Diamonds, of Racy Yacht Video,
and Bubble Bath Proposal. So this is the third, Like,
these two people have been together for like a combined
eleven months over two engagements, and I have to watch
three movies about Amazon pri one album and one album,

(09:37):
two albums. It's hard because with the Greatest Love Story
I Never Told, there aren't any stakes because it's just
Jen's money and she's making a documentary. And I'm like,
whether you lose it all or you don't, you're still
Jennifer Lopez and you're with Ben Affleck, so I'm not
not rooting for you. I just don't think you've got
much to lose, yeah, she says. At one point in
the documentary about the movie, she says, I have good intentions.

(09:59):
I just don't want it to suck. And that's all
of us with creative pursuit. So well, but it does.
And then Ben says, that's just inexperience. You haven't done
this before, because he has made films and he's liked
his distiness, and oh nah, he was like, Nah, it's great, babe,
it's really good. Divorce rumors. A few months after The

(10:20):
Greatest Love Story Never Told and This Is Me Now
was released, rumors emerged that Ben and Jen were separating,
which sucks. In terms of timing, I'm going to give
you a bit of a timeline about what has happened
in the last honestly, like four or five months. It's
May sixth, twenty twenty four. Jalo is at the met Gala.

(10:41):
No Ben insight to that. I say Ben had hate
the Metgala? Is it that unusual that he is not there?
May twelve, her and Ben do not spend Mother's Day together.
May fourteen, j Loo is house hunting without benh May fifteen,
there are reports that Ben has moved out. May sixty.
Ben pictured leaving his new residence where he's living alone.

(11:05):
But he's wearing his wedding ring. Okay. Jlo then likes
a post on Instagram Claire, I would like you to
just give listeners a gist of the post that Jennifer
Lopez liked on May the sixteenth from her account. Ah,
you cannot build a healthy relationship with someone who lacks

(11:28):
integrity and emotional safety, doesn't respect your time, doesn't think
it's important to call, slash text back in a respectable
time I'm texting her, lacks effective communication skills. He's talking
to his friends, doesn't strippers who they are or what
they want Devil's advocate. Maybe she's talk about one of
our other husbands. No, she could be talking no current husband.

(11:52):
Well it's funny you say that, though, because I think.
A few days later, they're photographed together at a school
play of one of the children wearing their wedding rings.
We go. Things get weirder. Two days after that, they're
spotted in a car together and then Ben's phone starts
ringing and he's green is visible to the paps. Have
you heard this? I've seen the picture and it reads

(12:14):
Jennifer Afflick. But she's right there to Gleitch in the matrix.
I don't understand. Oh, that is weird. That is weird. No,
I saw memes about it, but I didn't see the original.
It's j Jenna's right there. The rumors ramp up, with
sources telling people Ben hates all attention and it makes

(12:36):
him very uncomfortable. Jennifer has always had a different approach.
I don't appreciate the blaming Jennifer. No, not one beer.
He knew who she was. She has never changed. This
is me, then, this is me now have always been
later like she's clear. A journalist then asks jenn outright

(12:57):
if they're separated. Love that journalist, me too, take him
on for the team doing godswik j Loo says, you
know better than that. Then they're holding hands. She's hot broke.
Then Lopez announced that she would not be doing her
summer tour as planned. Pictures of Business Me now tour,
She's not doing it just that's like a huge part

(13:19):
of promoting her three part twenty millions of fundage project. Well,
she's not doing it because she has to spend time
with her family on and she's sorry by the time
she tours that it's not even going to be her
now anymore. It's gonna be her band again. Then they
put their sixty million dollar house on the market. In June,
Ben is on Kevin Hart's podcast and basically says he

(13:42):
hates all the attention. I'm also a little bit shy.
I also like a lot of attention is why people
see me and they're like, let's do it always mad
because somebody has their cameras, thin get in my face
and you have rest feast. Do you know what I have?
Resting hard fist. Now, he says, paparazzi can take pictures
of him. He doesn't give a fuck if they're taking
pictures of Jen but not his kids. Then he takes

(14:04):
his wedding ring off and then the next day is back.
On July twenty, Lopez has a Bridgeton themed birthday party.
I having brackets fun. Ben doesn't come. That would slap.
The only thing I will say about the Bridgeton themed
birthday party? Was it girls only? Ah? It feels like
a gal's event. Well, Ben wasn't there. I don't think

(14:26):
he'd like dressing up. But July twenty seven, Ben Affleck
goes rogue and purchases a five bedroom home in LA
for cheeky twenty mil. My question is, why do you
need a home if you already have a home with
j Low. To listen to that entire episode, just click
the link in our show notes. In that episode, we're
investigating the time that Ben had a simple thirst for

(14:48):
water and ended up in a strip club. Quenching said thirst.
Is that a crime? Absolutely not? Did he take the
wrong turn? Did he mean to land in that stripper's lap?
Only we know for sure. Also, you may have seen
the sad Ben phenomenon, But can we punish him simply
because he doesn't smile a lot? In public. Yes, we
conducted a full risk assessment on their relationship. Listen to

(15:10):
that full episode via the link in our show notes.
We're recanceling three things every week over the summer break,
including celebrities, TV shows, celebrity couples, and press tours because
we need to keep the investigations running. You can find
videos from the podcast and evidence of celebrity crimes on
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