November 3, 2024 • 54 mins
Welcome to the Cancelled courtroom Donald John Trump, reality star, businessman, former president and current presidential candidate.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and
waters that this podcast is recorded on. Hello, canceled listeners.
With the US election happening this week and the spotlight
on former president Donald Trump and of course current presidential nominee,
we thought we would re share our episode on Donald Trump.
If you're like, wait, what's he done again? Well, here
(00:37):
you go. Don't worry. You'll still get our usual fresh
episode tomorrow. We promise it is a goodie. Enjoy. Hello,
and welcome to cancel the podcast that looks at silly
(00:57):
celebrity crimes and assigence charges and sentences to them so
we can all move on with our lives. I'm Kles
Stephens and i am Jesse Stevens, and today is part
one of two episodes we're doing about reality. He's businessman,
former president and current presidential candidate Donald John Trump. We
(01:18):
have wanted to do this series for a little while,
and there was a moment where we went, the time
is past, Yeah, he's no longer in the zeiki. We went,
everyone's forgotten, He's not really relevant anymore and now, and
then Trump said, hold my magahut. I have alterned, I
have some things to say.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We're dying, We're dying, we need money, Thank you, darling.
But mister Trump, you're not a nice person. That's true,
But actually I am. I think I am a nice person.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Now, if you genuinely tried to do a canceled episode
about mister Donald, you'd be going for a decade. And
that's the point. This man is so bizarre and silly
and ridiculous that you forget. You forget all of it,
so that if someone today were to stop you on
the street and say, Jesse, why should Donald Trump not
be president? You're like, I don't know where to start.
(02:11):
You're like, uh, that's part of his genius. It's like, uh,
make America great again. Yeah, yeah, it's very hard to like,
I know bad because I kind of vaguely. Then go
the Apprentice, which is his greatest crime, but it's also
not not a crime. No, And it's like he sexually
assaulted everyone that was ten lifetimes ago. He did that
(02:33):
for everyone. Obviously, there are his actual crimes. Just for example,
in May this year, oh I forgot a Durian. New
York found Trump guilty on thirty four felony counts of
falsifying business records related to a hush money payment to
Stormy Daniels. Imagine how many felony accounts if silliness was
also a crime, and if he was in the council courtroom,
(02:55):
which now he is. Yeah, wow, charge charge, charge sentence.
This made him the first former US president to be
convicted of a crime. He has also been indicted on
fifty four other felony counts related to his mishandling classified documents.
That's a big thing that, like, the documents you have
in your president are quite private, and he did not
(03:17):
that true sound very interesting to me. It's like to
be completely honest, And I did follow this. There is
a number of felony counts we get to where I
check out and I go, how much does a felony
count even matter? If we can get fifty four of
them exactly? And it's like if Joe Biden or Kamala
Harris was accused of one thing, I'd be like, oh,
what is a criminal? Yeah, he's accused of fifty four
(03:39):
on top of what he's already been found guilty of,
And I'm like, oh, it's a bit of a blur.
He's also been indicted on felony counts related to his
efforts to overturn the twenty twenty presidential election. Remember when
he just threw his hands up and rejected democracy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
People have to keep reminding everyone. It's like he's a
threat to democracy. And everyone's like, you can't just accuse
someone of being a threat to democracy. And he's like, no,
he tried to say that votes don't count. It's like, no,
he did try and do that. That's actually true. He
didn't attend Biden's inauguration. He incided a riot. He insided.
I went very quiet about him. He straight up was like,
(04:17):
if I lose doesn't count. He said, if I lose
doesn't count, incited riot, and then said that was actually
a lot like Martin Luther King. And it wasn't a
lot like Martin Luther King. It was the opposite.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yes, the people of January sixth were treated very unfairly.
I was at the Washington Monument, I was at the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I had crowds.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't know who's ever had a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Bigger crowd than I have, but I had it many times.
The biggest crowd I've ever spoken, I've spoken to the
biggest crowds. Nobody's spoken to crowds bigger than me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If you look at Martin Luther.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
King when he did his speech, his great speech, and
you look at ours, same real estate, same everything, same
number of people. If not we had more, and you
look at the picture of his crowd, my p we
actually had more people.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
In civil proceedings, he's been found liable for sexual abuse
and defamation in twenty twenty three, defamation in twenty twenty four,
and financial fraud in twenty two see definitat May's nothing.
A man's walking around being potentially the next president of
the United States. What does a defamation ruling even mean?
Why can you be currently in court and also a
(05:27):
criminal and also be maybe going to be president. Yeah,
It's like, what are you doing after court today? I'm
going to my rally to become president. Yeah. And then
it's like you're leaving a rally and everyone's like, oh,
you need to leave early, and it's like, yeah, I
got a court date. I gotta go to court. This
just does the same run. Before his career in politics,
he and his businesses had been plaintiffs you or defendants.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He's a slashy.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, he slashy. He's always been the ultimate slashy. Yeah yeah,
because he's been businessman, reality TV star. But Felon fellon
as the additional slash for his say truth social account
where you have to say who you are as a
little bio maybe even on his LinkedIn Felon with a
lot of little dot points. Quite nice. Yes. So he
(06:14):
and his businesses have been plaintiffs or defendants in more
than four thousand legal actions, including six business bankruptcies. He
continues to say, I have never been bankrupt. He has
never been bankrupt because his businesses have gone bankrupt. That's
why you create a business so that if you go bankrupt,
(06:37):
it's the business that goes bankrupt, not you. You can't say
I understand it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But we are not here to talk about actual crimes. No, no, no,
we trust that the court of law will follow them up,
look at the paperwork and so on, do we because
the court of law does do that. But then there
is no consequence. I think there are consequences. Just one
of the consequences isn't anything to do with running for
president or going to jail. No, we're here to talk
(07:06):
about social crimes, cultural crimes, crimes again against the vibe
there the crimes will be looking at even still, you
could look at those crimes forever. So this is not exhaustive.
Oh how did you come up with your scope? It
is simply for the last Okay, you were guided by
your nose. I was guided by my nose. Is the
only way to explain it. Let us Kenny good John,
(07:29):
let us begin. Donald John Trump is seventy eight years old.
He was elected the forty fifth president of the United
States in twenty sixteen, and when he was inaugurraded in
twenty seventeen, he became the only US president without prior
military or government experience. Absolutely none, nada, zero, unqualified. He's
(07:52):
also the only US president to have been impeached twice,
in twenty nineteen for abuse of power and obstruction of
Congress after he pressured Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden. Just
sounds so bizarre, and in twenty twenty one for incitement
of insurrection. He was born in New York, and he
went to a private school and then studied economics at
(08:14):
the University of Pennsylvania. We don't know what he was
like at school because in twenty fifteen, his lawyer threatened
Trump's colleges, his high school, and the college board with
legal action if they released his academic records. That's not
a good reflection on your academic record. People don't do
that on it's high distinctions or apluses or fine or fine.
(08:38):
During the Vietnam War in the sixties, Trump avoided being
drafted into the armed forces by saying he was at
college and claiming to have bone spurs. I'm boone spurs
is what my good friend Nadal has in his knee.
Well he's he is a professionally, he plays elite tennis
(08:59):
with his bone spurs. Where were Trump's bone spurs? Okay
he didn't. No, I'm all four people getting out of here.
Has a bone spur his neck? In his neck, yes, Oh,
he'd never get out of dadtry service. Bit dad's in
his sixties. I'm all for people bludging their way out
of military service. Oh. I respect it, But I feel like,
(09:19):
if you are going to be the person to deploy
the military as president, oh you got him, you shil
got chaff, be willing to serve in it. Do you
not think? Okay, here's the issue. It's not like he
was a conscientious objector. No, he didn't go. I don't
believe in combat. I don't believe in war. I'm actually
going to protest against this. What he did is he
(09:40):
lied about his bone spur, which I think that if
you asked him a few questions about where and what,
let's just say, has a bone spur come up since
And he does constantly claim to be in perfect health.
And he's never brought up his bone spurs. So how's
the spur going? Dad's in his neck. So maybe Trump
has a very sore neck. Maybe it has limited his
tennis career, although I think if he had a bone
(10:02):
spur would have limited his golf game. Yeah, and according
to him, he has a great, great handicap.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I just won two clubschampionships, not even senior, two regular
club championships. To do that, you have to be quite smart,
and you have to be able to hit the ball
a long way, and I do it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But I guess him getting out of military service is
probably the first example of what we'll see as a
theme him being a lazy boy.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Lazy boy, boy, boy boy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Welcome to the Castle courtroom, Trump, You are in good company.
Trump has been married three times, and has five children.
He spent most of his career as the president of
his father's real estate business. He renamed it the Trump
Organization and focused the company on building and renovating skyscrapers, hotels, casinos,
and golf courses. He became famous in the entertainment world
(10:52):
as an owner of the Miss Universe, Miss USA, and
Miss Teen USA beauty pageants, then as creator and host
of The Apprentice, which was a brilliant show. Is that
still on? He had like a different host. He's on
in lots and lots of different countries and it's like
celebrity Apprentice and all of that. I don't know if
it is actually his brainchild. Well we'll get okay, but
(11:13):
I loved The Apprentice, Jesse. In part one, we're going
to discuss all the cooked things Trump did pre presidency
and during his election campaign. Then in part two next week,
we're going to discuss all the things you forgot he
did as president. Oh no, and they're really funny. Some
(11:34):
of them are they're funny because he's not currently the president. Yeah,
so it feels retrospective, yes, and they are like memes
and stuff. Yeah. But then there's also like that time
he just stopped the government from functioning. Remember the government
was so funny.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Lazy boy, lazy boy, boy, boy boy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
My structure for today is as follows. Lying about his money,
books and TV, Trump university, health beliefs, and politics and
the campaign. I vaguely know about some of these things.
Lying about his money. Trump likes to say that his
career began with a small loan of just one million
(12:13):
dollars from his father. He says he had to pay
that loan back with interest. But Trump was a millionaire
by the time he was eight, and we know that
he borrowed at least sixty million USD from his father,
mostly failed to pay it back, and then got another
four hundred and thirteen million USD from his father's company.
(12:34):
A report in twenty sixteen found that compared to the
stock market and property in New York, Trump's investments underperformed. Essentially,
you would have been better off just investing that money
than Donald Trump having it and doing his business. If
Donald Trump is Wall Street, he's nineteen twenty nine. Yeah,
he's a Wall Street crash. He's a great depression. He's
(12:56):
a money pit. In twenty eighteen, he and his family
were reported to have committed tax fraud to avoid paying
hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real
estate fortune that was passed down from their father. Trump's
tax returns from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety four
show net losses totaling one point one seven billion. The
(13:18):
losses were higher than those of almost every other American
Dax Bayer. That actually amazing. Actually that's a lot of
money to lose. But none of that matters. What matters
is that, according to journalist Jonathan Greenberg, donald Trump called
him in nineteen eighty four, pretending to be a fictional
(13:39):
person from the Trump organization called John Barron. This mister
John falsely claimed that Donald Trump owned more than ninety
percent of his father's business in order to try to
get him a higher ranking on the Forbes four hundred
list of wealthy Americans. Embarrassing. Greenberg then found that Forbes
(13:59):
vastly overestimated Trump's wealth and wrongly included him on three
of the different lists. So like on Rich List, Yes,
because they had testimony from some man named John Baron
saying Donald Trump is actually no, no, no, no, okay, Trump
makes that call Trump, Okay, just Chumce voice, Hello Trump, Yeah, okay,
(14:22):
and John barroon his names. John, he didn't even he
didn't even, he didn't even try. But just it's brump
Donald Trump. Mate, he's so rich. Put that in your article.
Tax go on, go on write it. How much money
does he have? One billions of them?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One hundred billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Trump, Donald Trump gets to work and stop calling. Okay,
I have more phone calls to make. The next call
is to Wikipedia. Moving on to books and TV, Donald Trump.
I'm going to try and do a Donald Trump. Donald
Trump has written many, many books. It's hard to say
(15:11):
how many, but it's nineteen. Well, he's prolific. Yeah, he's
like Alexander Hamilton, the other fifth one. His first book,
The Art of the Deal, was a New York Times bestseller.
While Trump was credited as co author, the entire book
was written by Tony Schwartz. According to The New Yorker,
(15:33):
the book made Trump famous as an emblem of the
successful tycoon. One. Lazy boy Trump, You didn't write your
own book.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Lazy boy, Boy, boy Boy two.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Tony Schwartz really wants that book re kind of labeled
as fiction. He's a campaigned for that Yeah. During his
presidential campaign announcement in twenty fifteen, Trump said, we need
a leader that wrote the Art of the Deal. And
it's like, okay, where's Dony. The Art of the Deal
explains the power of psychology and deception, which Trump calls
(16:06):
bravado or truthful hyperbole. That's what he says made him
successful in real estate. He talks about things like having
a construction crew drive machinery back and forth on a
site so that the visiting board of directors thinks that
the work is further along than it is. Is that fraud?
And he instructed a supervisor, if necessary, have the bulldozers
(16:29):
dig up dirt on one side of the site and
dump it on the other. You're a weasel. You're a
little manipularity weasel. He offers business advice, such as the
best way to ask for a raise is to wait
for the right time. Do you find that helpful? When's
the right time? He says, like, I guess you'll know.
(16:52):
I don't think Trump likes someone people ask him for
a raise, And I don't think he asks for a raise.
I think that his dad just gives him sixty million
dollars on a Monday. Yes, He also says people should
always be encouraged to follow their dreams, but realize that
a lot of time and money can be wasted chasing
dreams that just weren't meant to be true. If you're
(17:13):
my kids, for example, you can chase your dreams like Evunka.
If you're one of my employees and you want to
chase your dreams, maybe get back into your box then, Jesse.
Speaking of business endeavors, There's The Apprentice. Trump co produced
(17:37):
and hosted The Apprentice for fourteen seasons. It was incredible.
Just over twenty years ago. The first episode aired, it
was called Meet the Billionaire, and it attracted eighteen million viewers.
Twenty eight million watched the season finale. It won an Emmy.
Trump became internationally famous for his catchphrase you're fired, You're fired.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You're fired, You're fired, you're fired, You're fired.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And it elevated him to someone who came across as
really common sense and authoritative and fair. You've got to admit,
like we watched it as kids. We would sit there
in front of the TV drinking milo and we would
just say you fired, you fired your fire. And remember
the opening credits, Money Morning Moning morn, we'd walk around
the house and yeah, money, and mom and dad would
(18:23):
be like, we don't have a message of this show.
We're like, and we're walking down the streets of New
York just like throwing monopoly money around. We're like, I
want to be in the boardroom. What do you want
to sell? I don't know, I don't know, but you're fired.
And we would do a lot of that. Now. According
to one of the producers on the show, people working
on it had to sign expansive non disclosure agreements that
(18:45):
promised to find a five million dollars and jail time
if they shared what happened. Jesse. The original idea was
to have a new billionaire each season. Oh it wasn't
that Trump would just be a certified billionaire, because it
sounds like, well, no, this is the thing. Let's not
(19:06):
pretend we understand money, because this is this is what
I'm want to It's always like I went bankrupt and
now I'm buying a jet, and then it's like Kylie
Jenner's a billionaire. Okay. In my mind, if Kylie Jenner
is a billionaire, if I were to say to her
right now, let's go to combank, you know, you go
to an ATM and it could be like, what's in
my account? What comes up is one and maybe seven zeros?
(19:27):
Could I tell you nine zeros, more zeros than I've
ever seen, And I go, boom, you're a billionaire. If
it's one dollar less, you're not a billionaire. But in
my mind, you've got to be able to withdraw that
cash now, and from combat and from combank specifically. Yes,
I don't understand stocks. I don't understand shares. I don't
understand equity or assets. I don't understand bus I don't
(19:48):
understand lip kids certainly don't understand Trump towers. So in
my mind, if they're selling him as a billionaire, he
has I think it's technically referred to as liquid. Yeah,
liquid funds. He's got to have some liquid. Yeah, it's
just sitting there now. This information that I'm about to
share about The Apprentice comes from a producer who wrote
(20:10):
this huge expose. So apparently they tried to get several
different people for the first season, and Trump was the
only one who said yes pretty much that whole season.
Do you think they tried to get Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos?
This is it? Billionaires are busy. Billionaires busiest, and Trump
(20:30):
was the only one who was like, let me look
at my calendar. I am absolutely fraid. Did you want
to film in March April? May? Just let me check.
I am free in June and July, and I've got
an opening in August, September, October, and then I am
on break November, December, jan So I'm probably pretty open.
And by that I mean I work two hours a week,
so that's what I might film. But it's like any
(20:52):
billionaire you can think of, it's like like they generally
have things to do, have a what I would call
a packed day job. Not Trump. Now. Pretty much that
entire first season was scripted, and this producer writes about
how you couldn't let Trump just go because he got
(21:12):
confused by the names of people, by what he was
meant to do. Apparently in the first like thing where
they're in the boardroom, he is like really unclear, like wait,
wait is somebody fired? Like what's the deal? And then
Trump like mumbled like yeah, I would have fired that person,
and the producer had to be like, I think you
should point at them and say you're fighting for clarity,
(21:35):
and then Trump and then Trump did that, and then
it was very like Mark Holden. Yes, it was very that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, Trump years later then tried to trademark You're fired,
and it was unsuccessful because he didn't come up with it. No,
it's said all the time in workplaces around the world. Yeah,
but also he didn't even come up with it, which
is similarly, this seems to be a billionaire trend. If
you will. Kylie tried to trade mark Kylie, this is
a thing. Stop trying to trademark things. And he's already
got a billion dollars. How do you need more funds?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Crass and Shine.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Apparently they're behind. If anyone needs to trademark things, it's
four people, it's us. Yes, we should trademark canceled, except
we gon't because there's another cancel podcast more successful than
now I know. We probably should have trademarks canceled. We
could use some business advice from Trump. Apparently there are
behind the scenes tapes full of blatant racism, misogyny, like
(22:35):
just disgusting behavior from the Apprentice, and there's always been
talked about whether they will come out because they're really,
really bad. Another big part of Trump's entertainment career was
his ownership of the Miss Universe organization. From nineteen ninety
six to twenty fifteen, he co owned the Miss Universe organization,
which also included the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants.
(22:59):
When he first bought it, he publicly ridiculed a nineteen
year old Miss Universe winner for putting on five gillagrams
on camera.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
He said, Alicia is like me, like a lot of
other people.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I love to eat.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
We all love to eat, not all of us, some
of you are lucky, but we eat.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
We like to eat.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
And she had tremendous pressure put on her with the
win and everything else. Plus she was going from country
to country, all foreign places, and there was a huge
amount of pressure. And some people when they have pressure,
don't eat, and some people when they have pressure eat
too much, like me, but like Alicia.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
When he got called out for that, that got resurfaced
during his twenties, he's trying to build rapport with Alisha. Yeah,
He's like, we're the same. No, we're not the same.
When he got called out for that during his twenty
sixteen presidential campaign, he said she had gained a massive
amount of weight. It was a real problem. Did you
say five pounds kilos five five kilos right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(23:55):
He also falsely tweeted that she was involved in a
sex day. Oh okay, that wasn't a thing. In twenty thirteen,
he brought the competition to Russia. He tweeted, do you
think Putin will be going to the Miss Universe pageant?
If so, we'll become my new best friend. During his
political career, he referenced this event in Russia. He told
(24:18):
Fox News, I know Russia. Well, I had a major
event in Russia a few years ago which was a big, big,
incredible event. Sir, it was Miss Universe. Do you think
it's lucrative? Because I'm thinking about what I would spend
my money on if I was a billionaire, and in
terms of what I would invest in, what I would buy,
Miss Universe seems like a bit of a sinking shit. Yeah, no,
(24:41):
it was, Okay, it was like over the time he
had it, it lost its value. I also think that
it's quite a time investment because it takes a lot
of like he was often just there with his arms
around women, but again he was free. Yeah, I don't
get how it like grows in value. No, what do
they call it? When something is scalable. Yeah, it's not.
(25:02):
So you have a scalable product. Well, I guess you
could just make more and more pageants. But I think
what he wasn't counting on was that women are busy.
So I think he was like, we just need all
women to be in pad No. But this is something
I've often said about people who don't have a lot on.
They can't comprehend that other people have a full week.
They're the type of people who I have a friend,
love him, but he will call me at midday on
(25:24):
a Tuesday, ycause it doesn't a lot on. That's Trump. Yeah.
So he's like, well, why wouldn't women be in Miss
Universe pageants? Well, you know they're working full time now yeah.
Or they've got families, they've got things on during the week,
what type of things? Okay, Trump, this is the problem.
This is why we need a day drum. Yeah, well
I'm doing Apprentice. Well that only shot for two months,
(25:47):
and now you've got a big ten month free calendar again,
and that's why you are organizing a holiday to Russia.
He was asked whether he met with Putin when he
was in Russia, and he just said, I got to
meet a lot of people. And he said, and you
know what, they want to be friendly with the United States.
Wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with somebody.
(26:07):
And to that, I say, sir, the Gold War. You
need to be more aware of history. Yeah, I don't
think he has much context for that. Like, I don't
think he understood. He was like, boss, everyone's problem with
Russia anyway? And look, I don't have a problem with
like Russians. No, but I think that probably in the
last say, two three years, Russia has done some questionable things,
(26:29):
such as the invasion of Ukraine. And someone ought to
tell Trump or else he's going to stage another Miss
Universe there with his friend Putin. I think he thinks
Putin is his first name. I agree. And there has
been tensions between the US and Russia for decades now.
He's quite profound, Yeah, quite profound. Speaking of media. During
(26:52):
a March two thousand and six appearance on the View
with his daughter Ivanka, Donald Trump was asked how he
would react if Playboy would ever feature Ivanka's picture on
its cover. Weird question, and he said, question, I don't
think she'd do that inside the magazine.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Although she does have a very nice figure.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I've said that if Evanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd
be dating her.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's so weird, you rageous from May. That's a really
odd thing to say. I think sometimes he does say
something really weird. I don't know if he's aware that
it's weird after it comes out of his mouth, Like,
(27:39):
do you think that as he said it, he went no,
I think I don't think I nailed that. I don't
think that's it came out weird. Trump University. Trump University
(28:00):
was a real estate training program that ran from two
thousand and five to twenty ten. Was it a pyramid scheme?
Because that sounds like a pyramids game? Isn't just like
an MLM Pyramids game situation? How dare you call it
a pyramid? Same? It sounds pyramidy. It's a bait and
switch scheme. Oh, it's different. It is more clearly fraudulent.
It is also fraudulent and incredibly obvious leading. It didn't
(28:21):
do what it said it was going to do. Okay,
all right, So it was operated by the Trump organization,
and in twenty eleven, after multiple investigations, it stopped its operations. Now,
it was founded in two thousand and four by Donald Trump,
and it offered courses in real estate, asset management, entrepreneurship,
and wealth creation. Number one problem with Trump University was
(28:45):
not a university by any definition of the word universe.
Could you get like a diploma or a degree or
not in any It was not an accredited university or college.
It conducted three and five day seminars often called retreats,
and it used high pressure tactics to sell them to
(29:07):
its customers. So it was just a business. Yes, it
didn't offer college credit. It didn't grant degrees or grade
its students. It has since been called a massive scam.
Trump University was also the subject of two class action lawsuits,
and they centered around the fact that the university defrauded
(29:30):
its students by using misleading marketing practices and engaging in
really aggressive sales tactics. Trump claimed that students gave the
courses ninety eight percent with favorable reviews, but when investigations
spoke to former students, it turned out that employees of
(29:50):
the university, which wasn't a university, pressured students to give
favorable reviews and then told them they had to fill
out those forms to get their graduation certificates. See, that's
one of the tricks they teach at Trump. It's called
how to be a trick Stne and number one is
don't give them their fake degree until they've said you're
(30:13):
good at it. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, Switch, it was just
practicing what it was. You know what it's like. It's
not quite like this because it is more intense. But
it's like when you get out of an uber and
the Uber driver gives you a really like deep stare
and says, please give me five stars. Where were we
the other night, that's right, and someone said they're Uber
(30:34):
driver canceled. Yeah, your Uber driver canceled and then called
you and threatened you and said you need to cancel
on me because I've been downgraded because of how often
I canceled. It's like, that sounds like a whole lot
of your problem. That's very Trump University. He went to
Trump University and he was like, what I'm going to
do is threaten you into not only saying you canceled,
but also giving me a five star. Instruction for the
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Trump University program usually began with an introductory seminar in
a rented space like a hotel ball and at that seminar,
students were urged to sign up additional classes, and they
ranged from one thousand, four hundred and ninety five dollars
seminars to thirty five thousand dollars gold elite programs. Many
(31:21):
students paid those fees for lessons from experts who were
kind of marketed to be hand picked by Donald Trump.
So he really used his whole apprentice persona to be like,
you're going to hear from Richard Branson, Yeah, yeaheah, And
Trump himself appeared in adverts boasting that the customers or
(31:45):
clients would make a million dollars in a year. Many
never made any profits and struggled because they were in
debt after maxing out their credit cards because they were
sold to relentlessly to take those courses that weren't even
actually anything to do with the universe. Did they consider
and this might be on them, but did they consider
(32:06):
starting by getting a one million dollar loan from the
doubt great point, because thirty five thousand dollars for a
program isn't that much when you've got your meal. No,
you've still got like nine hundred thousand at least you
do you do? Yeah? And so I think you've got
Bellia dent. Yeah, You've got a good point. What's the problem, so, Jess.
(32:29):
In the end, after all the investigations and everyone went
to court, Trump University ended up paying twenty five million,
which was ninety percent of the costs that they had
made from that entire operation. They're still made money. That's
what I also don't understand out rich people. They know.
(32:49):
It's always like they've embezzled ten million dollars and it's like,
I'm gonna find you one point eight And I'm like,
I feel like this is a net positive. I'm like,
should I be Jesse? Health beliefs. Trump says he has
never consumed alcohol, smoked cigarettes. I'm actually quite impressed by this. Yeah,
(33:10):
when it comes to Trump, the man just likes a
diet coke, and I'm like, look, we actually have a
lot in common. Although is it Die Cocher is at
a full strength coke? I feel like that says a
lot about a path. Yeah, he loves to soft drink. Yeah.
So he also says he's never used drugs. This is
because he witnessed his brother Fred's struggle with alcoholism and
later die from it. She's very sad. He sleeps about
(33:31):
four or five hours a night. I think that's not true.
Isn't enough. I don't think that's true. I think he
read Kevin Rudd's autobiography, Yeah, where Kevin Rudd famously slept
four to five hours a night, which made everyone think
that he worked really hard with the rest of the hours,
whereas I think you just spend four hours being shitty
because you've not had enough sleep. Yeah, But the man,
(33:51):
he's not got a busy schedule. He can sleep. Maybe
he has four or five hours at night, and then
he has sort of his nine am nap similar to Luna.
Luna does like a sort of a ten to twelve, yeah,
and then she does three to four. Actually, I think
that greats having those. I think he naps like a
DoD lot during the day. He can you put him
in his sleepsack, you put on his white noise. He
(34:13):
put a little dumb dumb in me. As these naps
helps with these moods. Give him to some warm milk
in a bottle. I did read that when he was
in court he couldn't bring any food and drink, which
are similar to any toddler you need. Your backpack has
the snacks. Yet the snacks, it might be fruit, it
might be rice cakes, some apple juice, some apple juice.
(34:34):
But for Trumpets his twelve Diet cokes which helped keep
him alert, alert, and with it, he couldn't have them,
and so he was sinking into his naps, probably his
scheduled naps, and this court case is getting in the
way of how his day would normally look. It's very
difficult to stay awake all being prosecuted. Then he just
(34:56):
threw something at the judge like it was a television
and he's like, I'm bored. I also think that for
most people the act of sitting in a courtroom on
your own trial would be enough adrenaline to keep you awake.
But for trump he's like, no, I'm really going to
need those twelve dikedes. He's like, this is the biggest
work day I've ever had, is sitting in this. Do
(35:17):
people do this every day? Sit in a room? Wait,
you may not turn up today and tomorrow and maybe
even the next day in the morning. This is punishment
enough without the sentence. Jesse he has called golfing his
primary form of exercise, but usually does not walk the court.
And we need to discuss this because we used to
(35:38):
work at golf course. Yeah, and men there's men thought
that they were so special to go and do their
like eighteen holes. Nothing against golf, nothing against golf. If
you're in a cart and you start drinking, he's kina
kin at seven am. It's not exercise made. It's not.
(35:58):
You're just driving around drunk and then swinging a stick.
Swinging a stick which badly, which I will say might
be great for the social life, might be great for
you're well be Yeah, yeah, is it exercise? Really not?
The exercise parts meant to be the walking up and
down the fairway. And you just know he sits in
(36:19):
the clubhouse afterwards and has a diet coached because he's
had four on the course. But he's twelve in And
it used to be my job to be on the
drinks cart and I would come along with some snacks
and some drinks, and I know I'd stop and I'd
go Trump because everyone on the golf course looked exactly
like Trump. Yeah, there was a man who w was suspenders.
I feel like Trump could wear suspenders while he's playing golf. Donald,
(36:43):
do you want anything from the drinks cart? Yes? And
then he says something like lovely lady and tups me
on the and then he looks through and he opens
up the one side that has sandwiches and he slams
that because he's pissed off about the sandwiches and salads.
And he goes to the other side where there's chocolates
and there's chips, and he goes, oh, be having some
of these, and he takes it out from the handful.
You know someone's rich when they go I'm just gonna
(37:04):
get and they take out like six chocolate bars and
chips and you're like, WHOA just checking it is nine fifteen.
It's really aggressive. And I know you had a bacon
and make roll at the halfway house. I saw you.
And then open the other thing. He doesn't drink, but
he does want a morning deco because like, and he'd
grab one of those. I think he'd he'd grab a
few light bottles because drink light water. Yeah, foundration thirsty
(37:28):
this morning. Absolutely just Donald Trump considers exercise a waste
of energy because he believes the body is like a
battery with a finite amount of energy, which is to
really respect. I think he's onto somebody in a book
called Trump revealed two Washington Post journalists write more about
(37:53):
this battery theory of exercise. They right, I can't talk
about battery theory as though this is a lugerimate theory.
Can't just as a person not want to exercise and
start saying I'm built like a battery, But even batteries
are recharged. After college, after Trump mostly gave up his
personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing
(38:14):
sports as time wasted. Trump believed the body is like
a battery with a finite amount of energy, which exercise
only depleted, so he didn't work out. When he learned
that John O'Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was
training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, you are
going to die young because of this. Then in twenty fifteen,
(38:36):
there was a New York Times profile where Trump said
he was not following any special diet or exercise regimen
for his political campaign. All my friends who work out
all the time, they're going for knee replacements, hip replacements.
They're a disaster, he said. I'm just in my golf cart.
He exerts himself fully by standing in front of an
(38:58):
audience for an hour. That's exercise, but it's not. Technically
it's not. Though. In twenty fifteen, his campaign released a
letter from his longtime personal physician, Harold Bourne, stating that
Trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the president.
Harry Bornstein the same as John who called that paper
(39:19):
to say that he was pretty sure Donald Trump was
a billionaire. No, because Bornstein is real. Because then three
years later, in twenty eighteen, he said Trump had dictated
the contents of the latter, and that three of Trump's
agents had seized his medical records in a February twenty
seventeen raid on the doctor's office. In twenty sixteen, while campaigning,
(39:39):
Trump said, I actually have low blood pressure. Can you
believe it? Can you believe it? I have ultimate flex
I have like one hundred over something. The doctor said, man,
you have the blood pressure of a great, great athlete
who is twenty years old, one hundred and ten. I
like that because I like being a great athlete. Can
(40:00):
you call yourself a great athlete when you have a
theory of exercise that involved in not exercising because you
don't want to run out your battery. Politics and the
campaign Donald Trump registered as a Republican in nineteen eighty seven.
Then in nineteen ninety nine he became a member of
the Independence Party, which is a New York State affiliate
(40:23):
of the Reform Party. In two thousand and one, he
was a Democrat, oh then a Republican in two thousand
and nine, Then he was unaffiliated in twenty eleven, and
a Republican in twenty twelve. In nineteen eighty eight, Trump
contacted someone in politics asking to be considered as Republican
(40:44):
nominee George H. W. Bush's running mate. Bush found the
request strange and unbelievable. He actually ran in the California
and Michigan primaries for nomination as the Reform Party candidate
for the two thousand presidential election, but withdrew from the race.
In twenty eleven, he considered running against Barack Obama, then
(41:07):
he announced he would not run. His presidential ambitions were
and I quote, generally not taken seriously at the time.
All that's so sad. Then he runs in twenty sixteen,
and Jesse, I just want to chat about a couple
of the things we've definitely forgotten about the campaign, and
I'm not going to list them all. He was a shamble.
(41:29):
He was a shambles. From twenty fifteen, he talked about
building the Great Wall on the southern border with Mexico
and getting Mexico to pay for it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls
better than me, believe me, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Why would Mexico pay for it? Well, you go to Mexico.
I mean he's one of the great negotiators. You've seen
him on The Apprentice. He would knock on Mexico and
he would say, hey, we want to lock you out,
and they'd say why, and he'd say, walk because you're
all I think he's called them all rapists and murtterers. Yeah,
I don't think he's ever met a Mexican person before.
But he's like, because you're a criminals, and it's like, okay,
(42:06):
all right, we won't come and we would like to
build a wall. Wall that feels aggressive, that feels very
the Berlin Wall. He says, what's a Berlin wool? And
then they say it feels very Northern Ireland. They have
a big and he says, what's a Northern island? Yes,
and he's confused. It's hard because there's so many contact. Yeah,
and he says, as I see it, there's an immigration
(42:29):
issue and that will be solved by a wall. And
then somebody says what about planes, and he says pause.
He says the wall will be high enough to keep
the plane out. Oh wow. True. And then as he's
walking away, he says for it, saying what you're paying
(42:53):
for it? It's very like your neighbour coming over with
an annoying request and then saying like, we're building a
new fence. Yeah, and also we want to go halves
and it's like, but I don't want the but I
don't want the fence. I don't have the money want that.
That always confused me, like, yes, absolutely bizarre to suggest
(43:17):
a war which he called the Great War, which it's
like Great Wall of China, but that's nothing to do
with immigration. Like he's just so confused the fact he
wanted them to pay for it. Yeah, I don't know
how he was planning on sort of invoicing for that.
Mexico just to their email on a Monday. He wouldn't
have done it. But it's like too Mexico from Donald
(43:39):
for billion dollars line item one time, great Wall, who's
building it, we'll get to the wall. Okay, Well, actually
I can't remember if I've got this in my notes.
Oh no, I do. In the next part, which is
about what he did during his presidency, who was meant
(44:00):
to build it? Oh? So he started building? Oh I
didn't know that, but it only got built like a
tiny bit and ran out of time. Well, okay, this
is a dumb question, but like how big a wall
are we talking? Because it sounded like he imagined it
to be like building a pool fence. Yes, like you
(44:20):
know what we should do. We should build a fence, yeah,
for safety or whatever. And you're like, yeah, great, well
we can do that in a week, and you know
it always blows out a bit or it took three weeks.
How that's actually an art of the deal. He talks
about overestimating the time ah of a project. How long
would this wall have been? So the wall was gonna
have to be three thousand, one hundred and forty five kilometers.
(44:43):
Now you can't picture that. I can't picture that, no context. Yeah,
the length of Australia from the north like far North Queens,
far North, yeah, to the south tip of Tasmania is
three thousand eight hundred and sixty kilometers or actually not
far off that. So essentially this wall would have been
(45:03):
somewhere in the ballpark of the entire length of Australia.
It's a big project. It's a big pro project from
a man with them not love. And also would have
to be thirty thousand feet tall at least forty thousand
feet tall because it doesn't want the planes coming in
now exactly. And then you've got to figure out the invoicing. Yes,
(45:25):
a logistical nightmare. How do you invoice the people on
the other side of the wall. You think about it,
there's no I got it. There's a letter box. There
is a letter box. Okay, so you just you Okay,
so you've got a letter box. But what if the
people start trying to climb through the word no, no, no,
I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking you put your
invoice through, which is like monogrammed and stuff, and you're
(45:47):
like Donald one time's wall, three billion dollars, you put
it through. What if they just ignore it? What then
then you say you knock on the wall and then
you give them a notice. Yeah, and you say no overdue,
you're invoice? What the plan you threaten will tear it,
will tear it down. If you don't pay for it,
(46:08):
we'll tear it down. And they're like, please do We
didn't want all like, I don't know how you it's
a really bad plan and no one called it out enough.
There's so many other things going on. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaking of other things, the grab'em by the pussy footage.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I got to use some ticktock just case.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Don't kissinger.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
You know, I'm automatically a dragged the beautiful.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I just don't kissing them.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's like a magnot just.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
When you're a start.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
They let you do it. You can do anything whatever
you want. Grab him by the pussy.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
That was ft so that access Hollywood tape that was
from eleven years earlier. It came out and then it
was all about the locker room to walk and blah
blah blah, like it's disgusting, it's appalling. Grab him by
the pussy doesn't even make sense. I doesn't. He can't
grab someone by the pussy anymore. No, then you can
grab them, you can grab something, grabben by the mouth,
(47:02):
like it's not something you do grab him by say,
even in the year has more bits and Okay, here's
the other things. It was eleven years earlier and he
was on the set for See maybe this is why
he couldn't go rogue on The Apprentice because makes sense. Yeah, no,
exactly exactly. And I imagine that there was a whole
lot of stuff like that said behind the scenes of
(47:23):
The Apprentice that all those tapes have. Just this was
eleven years earlier. He was in business mogul era. Why
was he on set of Days of Our Lives? Oh,
that's actually the question, isn't it. Yeah, because that's where
it was filmed. Jess, what is the behavior of an
unemployed man? That is the behavior of a man? Bragg
(47:45):
And I'm again, nothing to do at midday on Tuesday.
And when we get in trouble. We all know what
it's like when we are underemployed and we wonder, don't go, well,
I'll tell you what. We drink too much diet coke. Underemployed,
which is we are we're wandering often we're wandering into
watching Days of our Lives at home. Yes, but he's like,
(48:06):
and you know when you're watching TV and the sun's
out and you're like, oh it doesn't feel good for
the soul. We were at school and you'd go doctor
phil Oprah ready said, he cook, I want to cry.
It was such a depressing evolution into the afternoon. It was.
It was, Jesse, I forgot about when Milania gave a
speech that was nearly identical to Michelle Obamas. So remember
(48:29):
Milania did next to nothing, and I mean, we could
do a whole episode on Millania and fake Millania, et cetera,
et cetera. But she then did give a speech in
twenty sixteen, and literally there are entire chunks I love it,
that were identical to Michelle Obamas. Okay, I would never
(48:50):
say this about a woman, But is Milania hear me
out chat GPT? Is Millania? Yes? Just Ai absolutely, And
so they programmed into her make presidential wife speech and
she was like, I'm going to draw on the wealth
(49:12):
of information that precedes me. I've accidentally spat out Michelle Obamas. Yeah,
should be. You can't blame me because I am bot.
I am bot, and I did as bot. Jesse. Remember
when people got mad about Trump and all his problematic behavior,
so he tweeted this. So many politically correct fools in
(49:33):
our country we have to all get back to work
and stop wasting time and energy on nonsense. Yes, this
was August eighth, twenty fifteen, Jesse at ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Go to bed.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Who needs to stop wasting time? Who needs to stop
wasting time? And is it you?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah? Because people are simply saying the presidential candidate is cooked,
and you are saying, oh, all this political correctness, it's
political correctness. We'll have to just get back to work.
Here's a question, Donald Trump, before you were the president,
what was your job? What's your job on your LinkedIn
(50:12):
come on other than tycoon, which is not a job.
Trump said things like this, and you reference this just earlier, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
They're not sending you, they're not sending you.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're
bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime,
they're rapists and some are assumer good people.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
He calls he couched it. He couched it, yeah, yeah,
but he did call them rapists. Yeah. So then he
tweeted this to kind of make up for it. Do
you think it made up for it. Yes, I'm happy.
Hashtag sinko demayo. The best taco bowls are made in
Trump Tower grill. I love Hispanics. Wow. Jesse described the picture. Okay,
(51:03):
he's looking really stroked to be eating a taco bowl.
He's got like a real dollop of sour cream. I
love some sour cream. There's some cheese sprinkled, and he
is holding his thumb up and he's just saying, I
like Mexican food made by white people. I like Mexican food.
I'm going to build a wall, but you can still.
(51:24):
You can leave your food if you want any rights. No,
but that doesn't mean I won't eat you. I don't
like a taco. I'm not racist. I like a taco.
Donald Trump also he didn't understand what he was doing
at any point. He did something really bizarre when he
said he hoped Russia could find Hillary Clinton's deleted emails.
(51:45):
He said, I will tell you this, Russia, if you're listening,
I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails
that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded
mightily by our press. It drew criticism because he was
inviting Russia. To hack them. He was very much inviting
Russia to hack Hillary Clinton. His friend Pooty. His friend Pooty,
(52:10):
poot we hung out. He'll misunderstood at Miss Universe. Can
you help, she's annoying me? Come on, pety. Clinton campaign
advisor Jake Sullivan said, this has to be the first
time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a
foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. Trump
(52:33):
just takes about now that was a compliment. Wasn't a compliment? Jesse? Yeah,
that is all we've got time for. And in part two,
we're going to go through all the things that you
forgot he did during his presidency and it's going to
be a sad dies and that is when we will
do our charges and sentences. Correct But Claire, speaking of
(52:55):
lazy boys, I have a lazy girl story to round
out today's show to leave our listeners with. This one
is from Gemma and she hasn't even said I have
a lazy girl story. She's just written lazy girl one word,
just as like next. I work in a hospital and
before I started this job, I needed to check on
all my vaccinations. I knew I had about eight different
(53:16):
vaccinations a few years ago for being a lazy girl.
I didn't take note of which ones or file any
of the documents after I needed them. And where is
that informations? Yea dorn because I never know. So instead
of trying to find out what I'd already had, I
just told my doctor I didn't have any of them,
and I got all of them. Again. I've done that. Ps.
I do not condone you. I'm so true. I would
(53:39):
love to know where my vaccination thinks because a doctor,
this is what happens. You sit down with your doctor.
Your doctor goes, have you had what's the I got
betten by dog one? Yeah? Have you had your teennis?
And I look at my doctor and I go, have
I had my technants? And they say the problem with
you is that you go to lots of different doctors.
(54:00):
I'm not your only doctor. And I say, I thought
you had a record, yeah, because I never opted out.
I never opted in. There has to be a record
somewhere me. But if not, feel free to But it's
not her on the side of caution, yeah, and to
be over jabbed, and that she's a health professional. She says,
(54:20):
not a good idea, but lazy lazy Girl. We will
be back next week. Bye bye,
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and
waters that this podcast is recorded on. Hello, canceled listeners.
With the US election happening this week and the spotlight
on former president Donald Trump and of course current presidential nominee,
we thought we would re share our episode on Donald Trump.
If you're like, wait, what's he done again? Well, here
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you go. Don't worry. You'll still get our usual fresh
episode tomorrow. We promise it is a goodie. Enjoy. Hello,
and welcome to cancel the podcast that looks at silly
(00:57):
celebrity crimes and assigence charges and sentences to them so
we can all move on with our lives. I'm Kles
Stephens and i am Jesse Stevens, and today is part
one of two episodes we're doing about reality. He's businessman,
former president and current presidential candidate Donald John Trump. We
(01:18):
have wanted to do this series for a little while,
and there was a moment where we went, the time
is past, Yeah, he's no longer in the zeiki. We went,
everyone's forgotten, He's not really relevant anymore and now, and
then Trump said, hold my magahut. I have alterned, I
have some things to say.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We're dying, We're dying, we need money, Thank you, darling.
But mister Trump, you're not a nice person. That's true,
But actually I am. I think I am a nice person.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Now, if you genuinely tried to do a canceled episode
about mister Donald, you'd be going for a decade. And
that's the point. This man is so bizarre and silly
and ridiculous that you forget. You forget all of it,
so that if someone today were to stop you on
the street and say, Jesse, why should Donald Trump not
be president? You're like, I don't know where to start.
(02:11):
You're like, uh, that's part of his genius. It's like, uh,
make America great again. Yeah, yeah, it's very hard to like,
I know bad because I kind of vaguely. Then go
the Apprentice, which is his greatest crime, but it's also
not not a crime. No, And it's like he sexually
assaulted everyone that was ten lifetimes ago. He did that
(02:33):
for everyone. Obviously, there are his actual crimes. Just for example,
in May this year, oh I forgot a Durian. New
York found Trump guilty on thirty four felony counts of
falsifying business records related to a hush money payment to
Stormy Daniels. Imagine how many felony accounts if silliness was
also a crime, and if he was in the council courtroom,
(02:55):
which now he is. Yeah, wow, charge charge, charge sentence.
This made him the first former US president to be
convicted of a crime. He has also been indicted on
fifty four other felony counts related to his mishandling classified documents.
That's a big thing that, like, the documents you have
in your president are quite private, and he did not
(03:17):
that true sound very interesting to me. It's like to
be completely honest, And I did follow this. There is
a number of felony counts we get to where I
check out and I go, how much does a felony
count even matter? If we can get fifty four of
them exactly? And it's like if Joe Biden or Kamala
Harris was accused of one thing, I'd be like, oh,
what is a criminal? Yeah, he's accused of fifty four
(03:39):
on top of what he's already been found guilty of,
And I'm like, oh, it's a bit of a blur.
He's also been indicted on felony counts related to his
efforts to overturn the twenty twenty presidential election. Remember when
he just threw his hands up and rejected democracy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
People have to keep reminding everyone. It's like he's a
threat to democracy. And everyone's like, you can't just accuse
someone of being a threat to democracy. And he's like, no,
he tried to say that votes don't count. It's like, no,
he did try and do that. That's actually true. He
didn't attend Biden's inauguration. He incided a riot. He insided.
I went very quiet about him. He straight up was like,
(04:17):
if I lose doesn't count. He said, if I lose
doesn't count, incited riot, and then said that was actually
a lot like Martin Luther King. And it wasn't a
lot like Martin Luther King. It was the opposite.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yes, the people of January sixth were treated very unfairly.
I was at the Washington Monument, I was at the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I had crowds.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't know who's ever had a.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Bigger crowd than I have, but I had it many times.
The biggest crowd I've ever spoken, I've spoken to the
biggest crowds. Nobody's spoken to crowds bigger than me.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If you look at Martin Luther.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
King when he did his speech, his great speech, and
you look at ours, same real estate, same everything, same
number of people. If not we had more, and you
look at the picture of his crowd, my p we
actually had more people.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
In civil proceedings, he's been found liable for sexual abuse
and defamation in twenty twenty three, defamation in twenty twenty four,
and financial fraud in twenty two see definitat May's nothing.
A man's walking around being potentially the next president of
the United States. What does a defamation ruling even mean?
Why can you be currently in court and also a
(05:27):
criminal and also be maybe going to be president. Yeah,
It's like, what are you doing after court today? I'm
going to my rally to become president. Yeah. And then
it's like you're leaving a rally and everyone's like, oh,
you need to leave early, and it's like, yeah, I
got a court date. I gotta go to court. This
just does the same run. Before his career in politics,
he and his businesses had been plaintiffs you or defendants.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He's a slashy.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, he slashy. He's always been the ultimate slashy. Yeah yeah,
because he's been businessman, reality TV star. But Felon fellon
as the additional slash for his say truth social account
where you have to say who you are as a
little bio maybe even on his LinkedIn Felon with a
lot of little dot points. Quite nice. Yes. So he
(06:14):
and his businesses have been plaintiffs or defendants in more
than four thousand legal actions, including six business bankruptcies. He
continues to say, I have never been bankrupt. He has
never been bankrupt because his businesses have gone bankrupt. That's
why you create a business so that if you go bankrupt,
(06:37):
it's the business that goes bankrupt, not you. You can't say
I understand it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But we are not here to talk about actual crimes. No, no, no,
we trust that the court of law will follow them up,
look at the paperwork and so on, do we because
the court of law does do that. But then there
is no consequence. I think there are consequences. Just one
of the consequences isn't anything to do with running for
president or going to jail. No, we're here to talk
(07:06):
about social crimes, cultural crimes, crimes again against the vibe
there the crimes will be looking at even still, you
could look at those crimes forever. So this is not exhaustive.
Oh how did you come up with your scope? It
is simply for the last Okay, you were guided by
your nose. I was guided by my nose. Is the
only way to explain it. Let us Kenny good John,
(07:29):
let us begin. Donald John Trump is seventy eight years old.
He was elected the forty fifth president of the United
States in twenty sixteen, and when he was inaugurraded in
twenty seventeen, he became the only US president without prior
military or government experience. Absolutely none, nada, zero, unqualified. He's
(07:52):
also the only US president to have been impeached twice,
in twenty nineteen for abuse of power and obstruction of
Congress after he pressured Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden. Just
sounds so bizarre, and in twenty twenty one for incitement
of insurrection. He was born in New York, and he
went to a private school and then studied economics at
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the University of Pennsylvania. We don't know what he was
like at school because in twenty fifteen, his lawyer threatened
Trump's colleges, his high school, and the college board with
legal action if they released his academic records. That's not
a good reflection on your academic record. People don't do
that on it's high distinctions or apluses or fine or fine.
(08:38):
During the Vietnam War in the sixties, Trump avoided being
drafted into the armed forces by saying he was at
college and claiming to have bone spurs. I'm boone spurs
is what my good friend Nadal has in his knee.
Well he's he is a professionally, he plays elite tennis
(08:59):
with his bone spurs. Where were Trump's bone spurs? Okay
he didn't. No, I'm all four people getting out of here.
Has a bone spur his neck? In his neck, yes, Oh,
he'd never get out of dadtry service. Bit dad's in
his sixties. I'm all for people bludging their way out
of military service. Oh. I respect it, But I feel like,
(09:19):
if you are going to be the person to deploy
the military as president, oh you got him, you shil
got chaff, be willing to serve in it. Do you
not think? Okay, here's the issue. It's not like he
was a conscientious objector. No, he didn't go. I don't
believe in combat. I don't believe in war. I'm actually
going to protest against this. What he did is he
(09:40):
lied about his bone spur, which I think that if
you asked him a few questions about where and what,
let's just say, has a bone spur come up since
And he does constantly claim to be in perfect health.
And he's never brought up his bone spurs. So how's
the spur going? Dad's in his neck. So maybe Trump
has a very sore neck. Maybe it has limited his
tennis career, although I think if he had a bone
(10:02):
spur would have limited his golf game. Yeah, and according
to him, he has a great, great handicap.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I just won two clubschampionships, not even senior, two regular
club championships. To do that, you have to be quite smart,
and you have to be able to hit the ball
a long way, and I do it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But I guess him getting out of military service is
probably the first example of what we'll see as a
theme him being a lazy boy.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Lazy boy, boy, boy boy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Welcome to the Castle courtroom, Trump, You are in good company.
Trump has been married three times, and has five children.
He spent most of his career as the president of
his father's real estate business. He renamed it the Trump
Organization and focused the company on building and renovating skyscrapers, hotels, casinos,
and golf courses. He became famous in the entertainment world
(10:52):
as an owner of the Miss Universe, Miss USA, and
Miss Teen USA beauty pageants, then as creator and host
of The Apprentice, which was a brilliant show. Is that
still on? He had like a different host. He's on
in lots and lots of different countries and it's like
celebrity Apprentice and all of that. I don't know if
it is actually his brainchild. Well we'll get okay, but
(11:13):
I loved The Apprentice, Jesse. In part one, we're going
to discuss all the cooked things Trump did pre presidency
and during his election campaign. Then in part two next week,
we're going to discuss all the things you forgot he
did as president. Oh no, and they're really funny. Some
(11:34):
of them are they're funny because he's not currently the president. Yeah,
so it feels retrospective, yes, and they are like memes
and stuff. Yeah. But then there's also like that time
he just stopped the government from functioning. Remember the government
was so funny.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Lazy boy, lazy boy, boy, boy boy.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
My structure for today is as follows. Lying about his money,
books and TV, Trump university, health beliefs, and politics and
the campaign. I vaguely know about some of these things.
Lying about his money. Trump likes to say that his
career began with a small loan of just one million
(12:13):
dollars from his father. He says he had to pay
that loan back with interest. But Trump was a millionaire
by the time he was eight, and we know that
he borrowed at least sixty million USD from his father,
mostly failed to pay it back, and then got another
four hundred and thirteen million USD from his father's company.
(12:34):
A report in twenty sixteen found that compared to the
stock market and property in New York, Trump's investments underperformed. Essentially,
you would have been better off just investing that money
than Donald Trump having it and doing his business. If
Donald Trump is Wall Street, he's nineteen twenty nine. Yeah,
he's a Wall Street crash. He's a great depression. He's
(12:56):
a money pit. In twenty eighteen, he and his family
were reported to have committed tax fraud to avoid paying
hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes on the real
estate fortune that was passed down from their father. Trump's
tax returns from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety four
show net losses totaling one point one seven billion. The
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losses were higher than those of almost every other American
Dax Bayer. That actually amazing. Actually that's a lot of
money to lose. But none of that matters. What matters
is that, according to journalist Jonathan Greenberg, donald Trump called
him in nineteen eighty four, pretending to be a fictional
(13:39):
person from the Trump organization called John Barron. This mister
John falsely claimed that Donald Trump owned more than ninety
percent of his father's business in order to try to
get him a higher ranking on the Forbes four hundred
list of wealthy Americans. Embarrassing. Greenberg then found that Forbes
(13:59):
vastly overestimated Trump's wealth and wrongly included him on three
of the different lists. So like on Rich List, Yes,
because they had testimony from some man named John Baron
saying Donald Trump is actually no, no, no, no, okay, Trump
makes that call Trump, Okay, just Chumce voice, Hello Trump, Yeah, okay,
(14:22):
and John barroon his names. John, he didn't even he
didn't even, he didn't even try. But just it's brump
Donald Trump. Mate, he's so rich. Put that in your article.
Tax go on, go on write it. How much money
does he have? One billions of them?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
One hundred billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Trump, Donald Trump gets to work and stop calling. Okay,
I have more phone calls to make. The next call
is to Wikipedia. Moving on to books and TV, Donald Trump.
I'm going to try and do a Donald Trump. Donald
Trump has written many, many books. It's hard to say
(15:11):
how many, but it's nineteen. Well, he's prolific. Yeah, he's
like Alexander Hamilton, the other fifth one. His first book,
The Art of the Deal, was a New York Times bestseller.
While Trump was credited as co author, the entire book
was written by Tony Schwartz. According to The New Yorker,
(15:33):
the book made Trump famous as an emblem of the
successful tycoon. One. Lazy boy Trump, You didn't write your
own book.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Lazy boy, Boy, boy Boy two.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Tony Schwartz really wants that book re kind of labeled
as fiction. He's a campaigned for that Yeah. During his
presidential campaign announcement in twenty fifteen, Trump said, we need
a leader that wrote the Art of the Deal. And
it's like, okay, where's Dony. The Art of the Deal
explains the power of psychology and deception, which Trump calls
(16:06):
bravado or truthful hyperbole. That's what he says made him
successful in real estate. He talks about things like having
a construction crew drive machinery back and forth on a
site so that the visiting board of directors thinks that
the work is further along than it is. Is that fraud?
And he instructed a supervisor, if necessary, have the bulldozers
(16:29):
dig up dirt on one side of the site and
dump it on the other. You're a weasel. You're a
little manipularity weasel. He offers business advice, such as the
best way to ask for a raise is to wait
for the right time. Do you find that helpful? When's
the right time? He says, like, I guess you'll know.
(16:52):
I don't think Trump likes someone people ask him for
a raise, And I don't think he asks for a raise.
I think that his dad just gives him sixty million
dollars on a Monday. Yes, He also says people should
always be encouraged to follow their dreams, but realize that
a lot of time and money can be wasted chasing
dreams that just weren't meant to be true. If you're
(17:13):
my kids, for example, you can chase your dreams like Evunka.
If you're one of my employees and you want to
chase your dreams, maybe get back into your box then, Jesse.
Speaking of business endeavors, There's The Apprentice. Trump co produced
(17:37):
and hosted The Apprentice for fourteen seasons. It was incredible.
Just over twenty years ago. The first episode aired, it
was called Meet the Billionaire, and it attracted eighteen million viewers.
Twenty eight million watched the season finale. It won an Emmy.
Trump became internationally famous for his catchphrase you're fired, You're fired.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You're fired, You're fired, you're fired, You're fired.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And it elevated him to someone who came across as
really common sense and authoritative and fair. You've got to admit,
like we watched it as kids. We would sit there
in front of the TV drinking milo and we would
just say you fired, you fired your fire. And remember
the opening credits, Money Morning Moning morn, we'd walk around
the house and yeah, money, and mom and dad would
(18:23):
be like, we don't have a message of this show.
We're like, and we're walking down the streets of New
York just like throwing monopoly money around. We're like, I
want to be in the boardroom. What do you want
to sell? I don't know, I don't know, but you're fired.
And we would do a lot of that. Now. According
to one of the producers on the show, people working
on it had to sign expansive non disclosure agreements that
(18:45):
promised to find a five million dollars and jail time
if they shared what happened. Jesse. The original idea was
to have a new billionaire each season. Oh it wasn't
that Trump would just be a certified billionaire, because it
sounds like, well, no, this is the thing. Let's not
(19:06):
pretend we understand money, because this is this is what
I'm want to It's always like I went bankrupt and
now I'm buying a jet, and then it's like Kylie
Jenner's a billionaire. Okay. In my mind, if Kylie Jenner
is a billionaire, if I were to say to her
right now, let's go to combank, you know, you go
to an ATM and it could be like, what's in
my account? What comes up is one and maybe seven zeros?
(19:27):
Could I tell you nine zeros, more zeros than I've
ever seen, And I go, boom, you're a billionaire. If
it's one dollar less, you're not a billionaire. But in
my mind, you've got to be able to withdraw that
cash now, and from combat and from combank specifically. Yes,
I don't understand stocks. I don't understand shares. I don't
understand equity or assets. I don't understand bus I don't
(19:48):
understand lip kids certainly don't understand Trump towers. So in
my mind, if they're selling him as a billionaire, he
has I think it's technically referred to as liquid. Yeah,
liquid funds. He's got to have some liquid. Yeah, it's
just sitting there now. This information that I'm about to
share about The Apprentice comes from a producer who wrote
(20:10):
this huge expose. So apparently they tried to get several
different people for the first season, and Trump was the
only one who said yes pretty much that whole season.
Do you think they tried to get Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos?
This is it? Billionaires are busy. Billionaires busiest, and Trump
(20:30):
was the only one who was like, let me look
at my calendar. I am absolutely fraid. Did you want
to film in March April? May? Just let me check.
I am free in June and July, and I've got
an opening in August, September, October, and then I am
on break November, December, jan So I'm probably pretty open.
And by that I mean I work two hours a week,
so that's what I might film. But it's like any
(20:52):
billionaire you can think of, it's like like they generally
have things to do, have a what I would call
a packed day job. Not Trump. Now. Pretty much that
entire first season was scripted, and this producer writes about
how you couldn't let Trump just go because he got
(21:12):
confused by the names of people, by what he was
meant to do. Apparently in the first like thing where
they're in the boardroom, he is like really unclear, like wait,
wait is somebody fired? Like what's the deal? And then
Trump like mumbled like yeah, I would have fired that person,
and the producer had to be like, I think you
should point at them and say you're fighting for clarity,
(21:35):
and then Trump and then Trump did that, and then
it was very like Mark Holden. Yes, it was very that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Well, Trump years later then tried to trademark You're fired,
and it was unsuccessful because he didn't come up with it. No,
it's said all the time in workplaces around the world. Yeah,
but also he didn't even come up with it, which
is similarly, this seems to be a billionaire trend. If
you will. Kylie tried to trade mark Kylie, this is
a thing. Stop trying to trademark things. And he's already
got a billion dollars. How do you need more funds?
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Crass and Shine.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Apparently they're behind. If anyone needs to trademark things, it's
four people, it's us. Yes, we should trademark canceled, except
we gon't because there's another cancel podcast more successful than
now I know. We probably should have trademarks canceled. We
could use some business advice from Trump. Apparently there are
behind the scenes tapes full of blatant racism, misogyny, like
(22:35):
just disgusting behavior from the Apprentice, and there's always been
talked about whether they will come out because they're really,
really bad. Another big part of Trump's entertainment career was
his ownership of the Miss Universe organization. From nineteen ninety
six to twenty fifteen, he co owned the Miss Universe organization,
which also included the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants.
(22:59):
When he first bought it, he publicly ridiculed a nineteen
year old Miss Universe winner for putting on five gillagrams
on camera.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
He said, Alicia is like me, like a lot of
other people.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I love to eat.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
We all love to eat, not all of us, some
of you are lucky, but we eat.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
We like to eat.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
And she had tremendous pressure put on her with the
win and everything else. Plus she was going from country
to country, all foreign places, and there was a huge
amount of pressure. And some people when they have pressure,
don't eat, and some people when they have pressure eat
too much, like me, but like Alicia.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
When he got called out for that, that got resurfaced
during his twenties, he's trying to build rapport with Alisha. Yeah,
He's like, we're the same. No, we're not the same.
When he got called out for that during his twenty
sixteen presidential campaign, he said she had gained a massive
amount of weight. It was a real problem. Did you
say five pounds kilos five five kilos right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(23:55):
He also falsely tweeted that she was involved in a
sex day. Oh okay, that wasn't a thing. In twenty thirteen,
he brought the competition to Russia. He tweeted, do you
think Putin will be going to the Miss Universe pageant?
If so, we'll become my new best friend. During his
political career, he referenced this event in Russia. He told
(24:18):
Fox News, I know Russia. Well, I had a major
event in Russia a few years ago which was a big, big,
incredible event. Sir, it was Miss Universe. Do you think
it's lucrative? Because I'm thinking about what I would spend
my money on if I was a billionaire, and in
terms of what I would invest in, what I would buy,
Miss Universe seems like a bit of a sinking shit. Yeah, no,
(24:41):
it was, Okay, it was like over the time he
had it, it lost its value. I also think that
it's quite a time investment because it takes a lot
of like he was often just there with his arms
around women, but again he was free. Yeah, I don't
get how it like grows in value. No, what do
they call it? When something is scalable. Yeah, it's not.
(25:02):
So you have a scalable product. Well, I guess you
could just make more and more pageants. But I think
what he wasn't counting on was that women are busy.
So I think he was like, we just need all
women to be in pad No. But this is something
I've often said about people who don't have a lot on.
They can't comprehend that other people have a full week.
They're the type of people who I have a friend,
love him, but he will call me at midday on
(25:24):
a Tuesday, ycause it doesn't a lot on. That's Trump. Yeah.
So he's like, well, why wouldn't women be in Miss
Universe pageants? Well, you know they're working full time now yeah.
Or they've got families, they've got things on during the week,
what type of things? Okay, Trump, this is the problem.
This is why we need a day drum. Yeah, well
I'm doing Apprentice. Well that only shot for two months,
(25:47):
and now you've got a big ten month free calendar again,
and that's why you are organizing a holiday to Russia.
He was asked whether he met with Putin when he
was in Russia, and he just said, I got to
meet a lot of people. And he said, and you
know what, they want to be friendly with the United States.
Wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with somebody.
(26:07):
And to that, I say, sir, the Gold War. You
need to be more aware of history. Yeah, I don't
think he has much context for that. Like, I don't
think he understood. He was like, boss, everyone's problem with
Russia anyway? And look, I don't have a problem with
like Russians. No, but I think that probably in the
last say, two three years, Russia has done some questionable things,
(26:29):
such as the invasion of Ukraine. And someone ought to
tell Trump or else he's going to stage another Miss
Universe there with his friend Putin. I think he thinks
Putin is his first name. I agree. And there has
been tensions between the US and Russia for decades now.
He's quite profound, Yeah, quite profound. Speaking of media. During
(26:52):
a March two thousand and six appearance on the View
with his daughter Ivanka, Donald Trump was asked how he
would react if Playboy would ever feature Ivanka's picture on
its cover. Weird question, and he said, question, I don't
think she'd do that inside the magazine.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Although she does have a very nice figure.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I've said that if Evanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd
be dating her.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's so weird, you rageous from May. That's a really
odd thing to say. I think sometimes he does say
something really weird. I don't know if he's aware that
it's weird after it comes out of his mouth, Like,
(27:39):
do you think that as he said it, he went no,
I think I don't think I nailed that. I don't
think that's it came out weird. Trump University. Trump University
(28:00):
was a real estate training program that ran from two
thousand and five to twenty ten. Was it a pyramid scheme?
Because that sounds like a pyramids game? Isn't just like
an MLM Pyramids game situation? How dare you call it
a pyramid? Same? It sounds pyramidy. It's a bait and
switch scheme. Oh, it's different. It is more clearly fraudulent.
It is also fraudulent and incredibly obvious leading. It didn't
(28:21):
do what it said it was going to do. Okay,
all right, So it was operated by the Trump organization,
and in twenty eleven, after multiple investigations, it stopped its operations. Now,
it was founded in two thousand and four by Donald Trump,
and it offered courses in real estate, asset management, entrepreneurship,
and wealth creation. Number one problem with Trump University was
(28:45):
not a university by any definition of the word universe.
Could you get like a diploma or a degree or
not in any It was not an accredited university or college.
It conducted three and five day seminars often called retreats,
and it used high pressure tactics to sell them to
(29:07):
its customers. So it was just a business. Yes, it
didn't offer college credit. It didn't grant degrees or grade
its students. It has since been called a massive scam.
Trump University was also the subject of two class action lawsuits,
and they centered around the fact that the university defrauded
(29:30):
its students by using misleading marketing practices and engaging in
really aggressive sales tactics. Trump claimed that students gave the
courses ninety eight percent with favorable reviews, but when investigations
spoke to former students, it turned out that employees of
(29:50):
the university, which wasn't a university, pressured students to give
favorable reviews and then told them they had to fill
out those forms to get their graduation certificates. See, that's
one of the tricks they teach at Trump. It's called
how to be a trick Stne and number one is
don't give them their fake degree until they've said you're
(30:13):
good at it. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, Switch, it was just
practicing what it was. You know what it's like. It's
not quite like this because it is more intense. But
it's like when you get out of an uber and
the Uber driver gives you a really like deep stare
and says, please give me five stars. Where were we
the other night, that's right, and someone said they're Uber
(30:34):
driver canceled. Yeah, your Uber driver canceled and then called
you and threatened you and said you need to cancel
on me because I've been downgraded because of how often
I canceled. It's like, that sounds like a whole lot
of your problem. That's very Trump University. He went to
Trump University and he was like, what I'm going to
do is threaten you into not only saying you canceled,
but also giving me a five star. Instruction for the
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Trump University program usually began with an introductory seminar in
a rented space like a hotel ball and at that seminar,
students were urged to sign up additional classes, and they
ranged from one thousand, four hundred and ninety five dollars
seminars to thirty five thousand dollars gold elite programs. Many
(31:21):
students paid those fees for lessons from experts who were
kind of marketed to be hand picked by Donald Trump.
So he really used his whole apprentice persona to be like,
you're going to hear from Richard Branson, Yeah, yeaheah, And
Trump himself appeared in adverts boasting that the customers or
(31:45):
clients would make a million dollars in a year. Many
never made any profits and struggled because they were in
debt after maxing out their credit cards because they were
sold to relentlessly to take those courses that weren't even
actually anything to do with the universe. Did they consider
and this might be on them, but did they consider
(32:06):
starting by getting a one million dollar loan from the
doubt great point, because thirty five thousand dollars for a
program isn't that much when you've got your meal. No,
you've still got like nine hundred thousand at least you
do you do? Yeah? And so I think you've got
Bellia dent. Yeah, You've got a good point. What's the problem, so, Jess.
(32:29):
In the end, after all the investigations and everyone went
to court, Trump University ended up paying twenty five million,
which was ninety percent of the costs that they had
made from that entire operation. They're still made money. That's
what I also don't understand out rich people. They know.
(32:49):
It's always like they've embezzled ten million dollars and it's like,
I'm gonna find you one point eight And I'm like,
I feel like this is a net positive. I'm like,
should I be Jesse? Health beliefs. Trump says he has
never consumed alcohol, smoked cigarettes. I'm actually quite impressed by this. Yeah,
(33:10):
when it comes to Trump, the man just likes a
diet coke, and I'm like, look, we actually have a
lot in common. Although is it Die Cocher is at
a full strength coke? I feel like that says a
lot about a path. Yeah, he loves to soft drink. Yeah.
So he also says he's never used drugs. This is
because he witnessed his brother Fred's struggle with alcoholism and
later die from it. She's very sad. He sleeps about
(33:31):
four or five hours a night. I think that's not true.
Isn't enough. I don't think that's true. I think he
read Kevin Rudd's autobiography, Yeah, where Kevin Rudd famously slept
four to five hours a night, which made everyone think
that he worked really hard with the rest of the hours,
whereas I think you just spend four hours being shitty
because you've not had enough sleep. Yeah, But the man,
(33:51):
he's not got a busy schedule. He can sleep. Maybe
he has four or five hours at night, and then
he has sort of his nine am nap similar to Luna.
Luna does like a sort of a ten to twelve, yeah,
and then she does three to four. Actually, I think
that greats having those. I think he naps like a
DoD lot during the day. He can you put him
in his sleepsack, you put on his white noise. He
(34:13):
put a little dumb dumb in me. As these naps
helps with these moods. Give him to some warm milk
in a bottle. I did read that when he was
in court he couldn't bring any food and drink, which
are similar to any toddler you need. Your backpack has
the snacks. Yet the snacks, it might be fruit, it
might be rice cakes, some apple juice, some apple juice.
(34:34):
But for Trumpets his twelve Diet cokes which helped keep
him alert, alert, and with it, he couldn't have them,
and so he was sinking into his naps, probably his
scheduled naps, and this court case is getting in the
way of how his day would normally look. It's very
difficult to stay awake all being prosecuted. Then he just
(34:56):
threw something at the judge like it was a television
and he's like, I'm bored. I also think that for
most people the act of sitting in a courtroom on
your own trial would be enough adrenaline to keep you awake.
But for trump he's like, no, I'm really going to
need those twelve dikedes. He's like, this is the biggest
work day I've ever had, is sitting in this. Do
(35:17):
people do this every day? Sit in a room? Wait,
you may not turn up today and tomorrow and maybe
even the next day in the morning. This is punishment
enough without the sentence. Jesse he has called golfing his
primary form of exercise, but usually does not walk the court.
And we need to discuss this because we used to
(35:38):
work at golf course. Yeah, and men there's men thought
that they were so special to go and do their
like eighteen holes. Nothing against golf, nothing against golf. If
you're in a cart and you start drinking, he's kina
kin at seven am. It's not exercise made. It's not.
(35:58):
You're just driving around drunk and then swinging a stick.
Swinging a stick which badly, which I will say might
be great for the social life, might be great for
you're well be Yeah, yeah, is it exercise? Really not?
The exercise parts meant to be the walking up and
down the fairway. And you just know he sits in
(36:19):
the clubhouse afterwards and has a diet coached because he's
had four on the course. But he's twelve in And
it used to be my job to be on the
drinks cart and I would come along with some snacks
and some drinks, and I know I'd stop and I'd
go Trump because everyone on the golf course looked exactly
like Trump. Yeah, there was a man who w was suspenders.
I feel like Trump could wear suspenders while he's playing golf. Donald,
(36:43):
do you want anything from the drinks cart? Yes? And
then he says something like lovely lady and tups me
on the and then he looks through and he opens
up the one side that has sandwiches and he slams
that because he's pissed off about the sandwiches and salads.
And he goes to the other side where there's chocolates
and there's chips, and he goes, oh, be having some
of these, and he takes it out from the handful.
You know someone's rich when they go I'm just gonna
(37:04):
get and they take out like six chocolate bars and
chips and you're like, WHOA just checking it is nine fifteen.
It's really aggressive. And I know you had a bacon
and make roll at the halfway house. I saw you.
And then open the other thing. He doesn't drink, but
he does want a morning deco because like, and he'd
grab one of those. I think he'd he'd grab a
few light bottles because drink light water. Yeah, foundration thirsty
(37:28):
this morning. Absolutely just Donald Trump considers exercise a waste
of energy because he believes the body is like a
battery with a finite amount of energy, which is to
really respect. I think he's onto somebody in a book
called Trump revealed two Washington Post journalists write more about
(37:53):
this battery theory of exercise. They right, I can't talk
about battery theory as though this is a lugerimate theory.
Can't just as a person not want to exercise and
start saying I'm built like a battery, But even batteries
are recharged. After college, after Trump mostly gave up his
personal athletic interests, he came to view time spent playing
(38:14):
sports as time wasted. Trump believed the body is like
a battery with a finite amount of energy, which exercise
only depleted, so he didn't work out. When he learned
that John O'Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was
training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, you are
going to die young because of this. Then in twenty fifteen,
(38:36):
there was a New York Times profile where Trump said
he was not following any special diet or exercise regimen
for his political campaign. All my friends who work out
all the time, they're going for knee replacements, hip replacements.
They're a disaster, he said. I'm just in my golf cart.
He exerts himself fully by standing in front of an
(38:58):
audience for an hour. That's exercise, but it's not. Technically
it's not. Though. In twenty fifteen, his campaign released a
letter from his longtime personal physician, Harold Bourne, stating that
Trump would be the healthiest individual ever elected to the president.
Harry Bornstein the same as John who called that paper
(39:19):
to say that he was pretty sure Donald Trump was
a billionaire. No, because Bornstein is real. Because then three
years later, in twenty eighteen, he said Trump had dictated
the contents of the latter, and that three of Trump's
agents had seized his medical records in a February twenty
seventeen raid on the doctor's office. In twenty sixteen, while campaigning,
(39:39):
Trump said, I actually have low blood pressure. Can you
believe it? Can you believe it? I have ultimate flex
I have like one hundred over something. The doctor said, man,
you have the blood pressure of a great, great athlete
who is twenty years old, one hundred and ten. I
like that because I like being a great athlete. Can
(40:00):
you call yourself a great athlete when you have a
theory of exercise that involved in not exercising because you
don't want to run out your battery. Politics and the
campaign Donald Trump registered as a Republican in nineteen eighty seven.
Then in nineteen ninety nine he became a member of
the Independence Party, which is a New York State affiliate
(40:23):
of the Reform Party. In two thousand and one, he
was a Democrat, oh then a Republican in two thousand
and nine, Then he was unaffiliated in twenty eleven, and
a Republican in twenty twelve. In nineteen eighty eight, Trump
contacted someone in politics asking to be considered as Republican
(40:44):
nominee George H. W. Bush's running mate. Bush found the
request strange and unbelievable. He actually ran in the California
and Michigan primaries for nomination as the Reform Party candidate
for the two thousand presidential election, but withdrew from the race.
In twenty eleven, he considered running against Barack Obama, then
(41:07):
he announced he would not run. His presidential ambitions were
and I quote, generally not taken seriously at the time.
All that's so sad. Then he runs in twenty sixteen,
and Jesse, I just want to chat about a couple
of the things we've definitely forgotten about the campaign, and
I'm not going to list them all. He was a shamble.
(41:29):
He was a shambles. From twenty fifteen, he talked about
building the Great Wall on the southern border with Mexico
and getting Mexico to pay for it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls
better than me, believe me, Jesse.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Why would Mexico pay for it? Well, you go to Mexico.
I mean he's one of the great negotiators. You've seen
him on The Apprentice. He would knock on Mexico and
he would say, hey, we want to lock you out,
and they'd say why, and he'd say, walk because you're
all I think he's called them all rapists and murtterers. Yeah,
I don't think he's ever met a Mexican person before.
But he's like, because you're a criminals, and it's like, okay,
(42:06):
all right, we won't come and we would like to
build a wall. Wall that feels aggressive, that feels very
the Berlin Wall. He says, what's a Berlin wool? And
then they say it feels very Northern Ireland. They have
a big and he says, what's a Northern island? Yes,
and he's confused. It's hard because there's so many contact. Yeah,
and he says, as I see it, there's an immigration
(42:29):
issue and that will be solved by a wall. And
then somebody says what about planes, and he says pause.
He says the wall will be high enough to keep
the plane out. Oh wow. True. And then as he's
walking away, he says for it, saying what you're paying
(42:53):
for it? It's very like your neighbour coming over with
an annoying request and then saying like, we're building a
new fence. Yeah, and also we want to go halves
and it's like, but I don't want the but I
don't want the fence. I don't have the money want that.
That always confused me, like, yes, absolutely bizarre to suggest
(43:17):
a war which he called the Great War, which it's
like Great Wall of China, but that's nothing to do
with immigration. Like he's just so confused the fact he
wanted them to pay for it. Yeah, I don't know
how he was planning on sort of invoicing for that.
Mexico just to their email on a Monday. He wouldn't
have done it. But it's like too Mexico from Donald
(43:39):
for billion dollars line item one time, great Wall, who's
building it, we'll get to the wall. Okay, Well, actually
I can't remember if I've got this in my notes.
Oh no, I do. In the next part, which is
about what he did during his presidency, who was meant
(44:00):
to build it? Oh? So he started building? Oh I
didn't know that, but it only got built like a
tiny bit and ran out of time. Well, okay, this
is a dumb question, but like how big a wall
are we talking? Because it sounded like he imagined it
to be like building a pool fence. Yes, like you
(44:20):
know what we should do. We should build a fence, yeah,
for safety or whatever. And you're like, yeah, great, well
we can do that in a week, and you know
it always blows out a bit or it took three weeks.
How that's actually an art of the deal. He talks
about overestimating the time ah of a project. How long
would this wall have been? So the wall was gonna
have to be three thousand, one hundred and forty five kilometers.
(44:43):
Now you can't picture that. I can't picture that, no context. Yeah,
the length of Australia from the north like far North Queens,
far North, yeah, to the south tip of Tasmania is
three thousand eight hundred and sixty kilometers or actually not
far off that. So essentially this wall would have been
(45:03):
somewhere in the ballpark of the entire length of Australia.
It's a big project. It's a big pro project from
a man with them not love. And also would have
to be thirty thousand feet tall at least forty thousand
feet tall because it doesn't want the planes coming in
now exactly. And then you've got to figure out the invoicing. Yes,
(45:25):
a logistical nightmare. How do you invoice the people on
the other side of the wall. You think about it,
there's no I got it. There's a letter box. There
is a letter box. Okay, so you just you Okay,
so you've got a letter box. But what if the
people start trying to climb through the word no, no, no,
I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking you put your
invoice through, which is like monogrammed and stuff, and you're
(45:47):
like Donald one time's wall, three billion dollars, you put
it through. What if they just ignore it? What then
then you say you knock on the wall and then
you give them a notice. Yeah, and you say no overdue,
you're invoice? What the plan you threaten will tear it,
will tear it down. If you don't pay for it,
(46:08):
we'll tear it down. And they're like, please do We
didn't want all like, I don't know how you it's
a really bad plan and no one called it out enough.
There's so many other things going on. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaking of other things, the grab'em by the pussy footage.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I got to use some ticktock just case.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Don't kissinger.
Speaker 6 (46:27):
You know, I'm automatically a dragged the beautiful.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
I just don't kissing them.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's like a magnot just.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
When you're a start.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
They let you do it. You can do anything whatever
you want. Grab him by the pussy.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
That was ft so that access Hollywood tape that was
from eleven years earlier. It came out and then it
was all about the locker room to walk and blah
blah blah, like it's disgusting, it's appalling. Grab him by
the pussy doesn't even make sense. I doesn't. He can't
grab someone by the pussy anymore. No, then you can
grab them, you can grab something, grabben by the mouth,
(47:02):
like it's not something you do grab him by say,
even in the year has more bits and Okay, here's
the other things. It was eleven years earlier and he
was on the set for See maybe this is why
he couldn't go rogue on The Apprentice because makes sense. Yeah, no,
exactly exactly. And I imagine that there was a whole
lot of stuff like that said behind the scenes of
(47:23):
The Apprentice that all those tapes have. Just this was
eleven years earlier. He was in business mogul era. Why
was he on set of Days of Our Lives? Oh,
that's actually the question, isn't it. Yeah, because that's where
it was filmed. Jess, what is the behavior of an
unemployed man? That is the behavior of a man? Bragg
(47:45):
And I'm again, nothing to do at midday on Tuesday.
And when we get in trouble. We all know what
it's like when we are underemployed and we wonder, don't go, well,
I'll tell you what. We drink too much diet coke. Underemployed,
which is we are we're wandering often we're wandering into
watching Days of our Lives at home. Yes, but he's like,
(48:06):
and you know when you're watching TV and the sun's
out and you're like, oh it doesn't feel good for
the soul. We were at school and you'd go doctor
phil Oprah ready said, he cook, I want to cry.
It was such a depressing evolution into the afternoon. It was.
It was, Jesse, I forgot about when Milania gave a
speech that was nearly identical to Michelle Obamas. So remember
(48:29):
Milania did next to nothing, and I mean, we could
do a whole episode on Millania and fake Millania, et cetera,
et cetera. But she then did give a speech in
twenty sixteen, and literally there are entire chunks I love it,
that were identical to Michelle Obamas. Okay, I would never
(48:50):
say this about a woman, But is Milania hear me
out chat GPT? Is Millania? Yes? Just Ai absolutely, And
so they programmed into her make presidential wife speech and
she was like, I'm going to draw on the wealth
(49:12):
of information that precedes me. I've accidentally spat out Michelle Obamas. Yeah,
should be. You can't blame me because I am bot.
I am bot, and I did as bot. Jesse. Remember
when people got mad about Trump and all his problematic behavior,
so he tweeted this. So many politically correct fools in
(49:33):
our country we have to all get back to work
and stop wasting time and energy on nonsense. Yes, this
was August eighth, twenty fifteen, Jesse at ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Go to bed.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Who needs to stop wasting time? Who needs to stop
wasting time? And is it you?
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah? Because people are simply saying the presidential candidate is cooked,
and you are saying, oh, all this political correctness, it's
political correctness. We'll have to just get back to work.
Here's a question, Donald Trump, before you were the president,
what was your job? What's your job on your LinkedIn
(50:12):
come on other than tycoon, which is not a job.
Trump said things like this, and you reference this just earlier, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
They're not sending you, they're not sending you.
Speaker 5 (50:28):
They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're
bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime,
they're rapists and some are assumer good people.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
He calls he couched it. He couched it, yeah, yeah,
but he did call them rapists. Yeah. So then he
tweeted this to kind of make up for it. Do
you think it made up for it. Yes, I'm happy.
Hashtag sinko demayo. The best taco bowls are made in
Trump Tower grill. I love Hispanics. Wow. Jesse described the picture. Okay,
(51:03):
he's looking really stroked to be eating a taco bowl.
He's got like a real dollop of sour cream. I
love some sour cream. There's some cheese sprinkled, and he
is holding his thumb up and he's just saying, I
like Mexican food made by white people. I like Mexican food.
I'm going to build a wall, but you can still.
(51:24):
You can leave your food if you want any rights. No,
but that doesn't mean I won't eat you. I don't
like a taco. I'm not racist. I like a taco.
Donald Trump also he didn't understand what he was doing
at any point. He did something really bizarre when he
said he hoped Russia could find Hillary Clinton's deleted emails.
(51:45):
He said, I will tell you this, Russia, if you're listening,
I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails
that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded
mightily by our press. It drew criticism because he was
inviting Russia. To hack them. He was very much inviting
Russia to hack Hillary Clinton. His friend Pooty. His friend Pooty,
(52:10):
poot we hung out. He'll misunderstood at Miss Universe. Can
you help, she's annoying me? Come on, pety. Clinton campaign
advisor Jake Sullivan said, this has to be the first
time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a
foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. Trump
(52:33):
just takes about now that was a compliment. Wasn't a compliment? Jesse? Yeah,
that is all we've got time for. And in part two,
we're going to go through all the things that you
forgot he did during his presidency and it's going to
be a sad dies and that is when we will
do our charges and sentences. Correct But Claire, speaking of
(52:55):
lazy boys, I have a lazy girl story to round
out today's show to leave our listeners with. This one
is from Gemma and she hasn't even said I have
a lazy girl story. She's just written lazy girl one word,
just as like next. I work in a hospital and
before I started this job, I needed to check on
all my vaccinations. I knew I had about eight different
(53:16):
vaccinations a few years ago for being a lazy girl.
I didn't take note of which ones or file any
of the documents after I needed them. And where is
that informations? Yea dorn because I never know. So instead
of trying to find out what I'd already had, I
just told my doctor I didn't have any of them,
and I got all of them. Again. I've done that. Ps.
I do not condone you. I'm so true. I would
(53:39):
love to know where my vaccination thinks because a doctor,
this is what happens. You sit down with your doctor.
Your doctor goes, have you had what's the I got
betten by dog one? Yeah? Have you had your teennis?
And I look at my doctor and I go, have
I had my technants? And they say the problem with
you is that you go to lots of different doctors.
(54:00):
I'm not your only doctor. And I say, I thought
you had a record, yeah, because I never opted out.
I never opted in. There has to be a record
somewhere me. But if not, feel free to But it's
not her on the side of caution, yeah, and to
be over jabbed, and that she's a health professional. She says,
(54:20):
not a good idea, but lazy lazy Girl. We will
be back next week. Bye bye,
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